Ribeyrolles 1918 - France's First Assault Rifle or a Failed Prototype?
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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Paul Ribeyrolles was the manager of the Gladiator bicycle factory, and by 1918 he had significant experience in small arms design, having been a core member of the team that designed and built the 1915 CSRG Chauchat automatic rifle and the RSC-1917 semiautomatic rifle. These were forward-looking weapons, the first of their types ever to be successfully used in combat. Ribeyrolles continued to pursue the next generation of infantry small arms, and in the summer of 1918 he presented his 1918 automatic rifle for military testing at Versailles.
The model 1918 met most of the requirements to be considered an assault rifle by today's standards - it used an intermediate cartridge, it could fire in both semiautomatic and fully automatic modes, and it was fed by detachable box magazines (with a capacity of 25 rounds). The cartridge it used was a modification of the .351 Winchester WSL cartridge, modified to be semi-rimmed and to use an 8mm Lebel armor-piercing bullet. Unlike modern weapons of this type, however, Ribeyrolles' rifle used a simple blowback action and this required a quite heavy bolt to work properly. Unloaded, the weapon weighed 11.25 pounds (5.1kg), and the long receiver necessary for the bolt to effectively decelerate gave it an overall length of 1.09m (43 inches) - this was long and heavy for its capabilities. Still, it was conceptually pretty advanced for 1918.
The biggest problem which prevented the gun from seeing any military interest was reliability. At the 1918 trials, it was very unreliable - the one source I sound said that 53 malfunctions were had in 75 rounds of semiautomatic fire. That is definitely a sign of a design not ready for adoption!
Ribeyrolle brough the gun back for more testing in the summer of 1921 at Camp de Chalons, but it does not appear that he had fully cured the reliability problems. In addition, the gun's futuristic concept left it out of place in the arms lineup envisioned by the French military. It was too heavy and bulky to fill the role of a personal weapon like a submachine gun (note that the SMG ultimately adopted by the French, the MAS-38, is one of the smallest and lightest such guns ever used by a military power). And because of its intermediate cartridge, with a 400 meter effective range, it was considered too underpowered to fill the role of an infantry rifle. And thus, it was rejected, never to be seen again.
I do not know how many examples of the Ribeyrolles 1918 were actually manufactured, but it was certainly only a few - apparently only 3000 rounds of its ammunition were made for the 1921 testing. To the best of my knowledge, no examples survive today - any that were preserved after the trials were lost or destroyed in the chaos of WWII occupation and liberation.
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And in a dusty attic somewhere in the French countryside lies a locked cabinet with the last surviving Ribeyrolles, in pristine condition
Vipox69 oh shut up with that shit.
Or maybe an american soldier stole the gun from the war and then died, and now it's lying around in his now abandonen forest cabin.
@@alexmoore1506 Why did that make you so angry?
Ryan J because people repeat the same stupid ideas over and over
@@alexmoore1506 I think you're taking it far more seriously than it was intended.
It's a shame that these early proto assault rifles and other oddballs have so little literature about them. This Ribbeyrolles being a perfect example of years of design and development, just to fade into history. Ian truly is a saint for taking the time to educate us as accurately as possible so these treasures at least get the recognition they deserve.
My Geandfather was in the trenches in WWI and given this rifle. The Boche raided his trench one night and he had this gun as he traded it with a French for a bottle of wine. The German pointed an artillery Luger at my great grandfather, about to fire, but he shouted “RIBBIT RIBBIT RIBBIT RIBBETY RIBBEY ROLLS” and the Germans Ribbeted and ribbeyed and rolled and rolled until my grandfather was able to ribbey up to him and ribble each and every German.
The surviving Germans, seeing their comrades thoroughly ribbeyed and rolled, ribbed and ribbeted away from grandads ribbey ribbetting ribbeyrolling ribbeyrolls and ribbeted back to their trench.
There is a lot in other languages than english
Ian, as a French-Canadian, I appreciate the effort you put into your pronunciation of French names and words. Keep up the great work!
He is getting quite good. Je suis une autre Americain qui peut parlez Français...
As Frenchman from France (so I speak true French lol) I appreciate the effort too
Rib eye rolls bruh cruh sahnt
Some dude in Sudan is gonna show up one day with one of these and a Hellriegel, don't worry
*Ethiopia
@@_ArsNova forcibly rechambered to 7.62x39 no doubt
@@_ArsNova*sudan
Good to hear your French pronunciation improving
Je suis français et j'approuve.
We have to sustain His efforts. He is an example for all people who want to learn languages.
Why not just pronounce it in english if you are not french ?
Because the name is in french
@@-149onreyna3 has a english name and pronunciation also . Like u dont call paris 'paree' do you ? Dummy
Awesome stuff. Battlefield is the reason I started learning and researching on WW1 and firearms. Your channel is fantastic for this. And it's great finding out a bit about some of the more obscure weapons of the war that BF1 chose to include. So thank you :)
7:28 America's Army 2 actually had a weapon jam mechanic that was pretty damn cool. Wish more games had that.
I remember the M82A1 in America’s Army having a jam damn near every other round.
Arguably the most versatile Assault Class weapon in BF1. It returns the Assault Rifle to the Assault Class in the game.
Ians french has improved so much over the years! Another great video!
Kevin Aube Au nombre d'armes Françaises qu'il possède et ses voyages en France .
C'est toujours encouragé à voir un Américain qui a moins Assaye d'apprendre! C'est pas souvent que je vois cela du toute.
Kevin Aube * encourageant , tu veux dire .
La plupart ne savent meme pas où est le Canada.
Jean Berube haha ouais, Mon francais ecris souffre un peu on vacation dire. Merci !
Tout à fait d'accord. Et ce n'est pas toujours si facile puisqu'il y a des sons qui n'ont pas d'équivalents en anglais, comme "eu" ou notre "en/an", et nos "lettres silencieuses" comme le D dans Garand.
Such a shame we don’t have any of those guns left
Aviation lord True.
One could very well exist in some French archive collection. That being said, with the way France is there is no way anyone outside of the French military is ever going to see it if one does survive
would be a nice wallhanger, because it would not work
maybe in the reserve of le musée des armées aux Invalides.
+Aviation lord
This is actually part of the reason why Ian's channel Forgotten Weapons exists. He mentioned before that someone that inherited John Pedersen's blueprints and documents on Pedersen devices (including ones for other rifles) had thrown them out and they were the only documentation sources left on this planet. History that could never be recovered or saved. Because this understandably frustrated Ian, he started up Forgotten Weapons to try and save as much as possible so this would never happen again.
And as he reasoned it, it was a good time to start. Many of the men involved with this designing and small arms development process of the interwar years and WW2 are now almost all dying off due to old age. And you never know if the same thing could happen were some family member sees a bunch of papers having firearms and whatnot on them and they just throw them out without a care in the world.
A round ~8x33mm has a funny way of popping up in automatic weapons over the years.
Dice really did a good job of getting youngsters interested in both history and guns alongside entertaining our youths. Great job on their part.
Pull a new doll, watch another Forgotten Weapons video.
I see you’re a Shikikan of culture
*tell me the recipe and no one gets hurt*
Loli Raviolli just use the ar recommended recipe and pray to gun Jesus
i just rolled Ribeyrolles and i was wondering why shes portrayed so ill and the blood bag and shit and i feel bad for her and wanting to use her but goddamn those buffs tho... :c
@@cxckroach.carter She has the same buffs as M4 so if you simply wanna protect her use M4 instead
Hey Ian, as a French person I'd like to say that I really love and appreciate your effort to pronounce every French word properly, your French is improving a lot and it's really cool. A tip I'd give you is to not pronounce the "L" sound in "FUSIL", it's actually silent, apart from that you pronounce the word perfectly !
Ian is a francophile, he gets off on French things.
I guess me and and Ian would be considered enemies because I am an Germanophile.
My favorite assault class weapon in Bf1. Thanks for the video on it Ian!
“You know, I’m something of an arms designer myself”
😂
Just came here to hear the actual pronunciation of Ribeyrolles.
Been calling it rib eye rolle
Yesterday I was going to ask if you could do a video on it. Thanks for reading my mind
I suggested it on Patreon months ago... A shame there are none left
Gun Jesus knoweth all, He seeth all your thoughts on weapons.
I see you have been praying to The Gun Jesus. Your prayer have been answered.
No matter the verdict today, this will remain my favourite weapon in Battlefield 1.
As a french who loves military history, i'm each time, impressed by your knowledge ansd your work, thanks!
Bf1 reliability update:
Ribeyrolles SMG- now uses bolt action fire mode only
Chauchat MG- enters ''disabled'' fire mode when in condition "muddy"
Hellriegel- now uses jamtastic fire mode only
All semi-auto handguns except for DWM Luger P08, Colt M1911, Steyr Hahn M1912, FN M1903, M1903 PH, and Mars Automatic enter "jamtastic" fire mode when in condition "muddy"
Mosin Nagant M91- now fires in "Mosin mode"
RebSike is this real I haven’t noticed any jamming
What's mosin mode?
god mode
Works, but you need to open the bolt with a rock
don't fuck with the chauchat
"hey we just found a single untested prototype of a rocket pack" "is it dated before Jan 1st 1919?" "Yes" "Then give everyone in this WW1 video game a rocket pack already!"
Well that's a boring way to think of it. I like arcadey games as well as realistic ones, and think that the games that don't take themselves as seriously as, say, Escape from Tarkov or ARMA (or Verdun), should have a little creative wiggle room. Realism has it's place but... I don't think anyone would like to play a shooter game that has a realistic portrayal of the presence of artillery, for example. There's tradeoffs to be made with novelty vs reality and different people like different things.
I've already played that game, it's called Bioshock Infinite. Look, is the game disregarding reality or not? If they are disregarding reality, fine, then you can have people shooting lighting from their hand and using force-fields. What I don't like is the game trying to have it both ways, it wants to advertise itself as "set in the first world war" but doesn't want to actually do that. I'd like it if they admitted they weren't being realistic and were only being inspired by the 1910's era technology but want's even trying to be just a remix of WW1 weapons/equipment. This phoney bullshit of passing off broken prototype guns as typical of WW1 combat isn't very fun when you realise the bullshit it's trying to pull. I'm not convinced that this is either the interesting WW1 setting, nor is it a fantasy steampunk magic world only inspired by said era.
"I don't think anyone would like to play a shooter game that has a realistic portrayal of the presence of artillery, for example."
I would. Rolling barrage would be a great gameplay mechanic with the right sort of in-game explanation so everyone doesn't just try to run through it. We've already had games with death raining from the sky in the forms of killstreaks in the Call of Duty series. There's also the cat and mouse of artillery in counter-battery fire roll, are you going to have your artillery "shoot and scoot" or dig in and stand its ground?
Also, anti-tank guns count as artillery. The underappreciated dynamic is how infantry are needed to hunt down these well dug in anti-tank guns which generally can pick off tanks with far greater ease, so it's a long running fight to get to the anti-tank guns. And just getting a line of sight on them can be enough as then you have the mini-game of trying to call the artillery in onto the position before counter-battery fire suppresses your own artillery. You'd have to fight for a position where you can locate landmarks to triangulate your position, then call in the azimuth, elevation and approximate range to the AT-gun. Then watch the shot and mark that. Obviously, if someone else was giving the same azimuth/elevation from a very different position, you could locate the position with far more accuracy.
Now that is something interesting. And other "unlockables" like radio-jammer, radio-direction-locators, artillery fire detectors and so on factor into this infantry combat which depends on artillery being a remotely realistic factor in the game. It brings a value of stealth and mobility, you can't just loiter around in one good spot blasting away forever, that'll give them time to target you with artillery. One of the main problems with so many FPS games is the scourge of campers.
Treblaine Maybe I shouldn't have generalized... I think it would be interesting to have a shooter where artillery is a major factor, yes, but that's too complicated and potentially frustrating to deal with in a casual multiplayer game. Speaking in broad terms, people buy FPS games for gunplay, not "hide in cover and pray that one of the fifteen shells headed your way doesn't land too close". If anything, Battlefield is an example of what happens when you get too realistic in the wrong areas... IE, more people killed by gas or incendiary grenades or some jerkoff sitting on spawn with a mortar than with guns... Doesn't exactly make for a fun experience. More realistic games require a more nuanced playstyle, that a lot of people would get frustrated with for being overly restrictive. As for the prototype guns, I accept it as a way of fitting the WWI setting into the progression system and weapon variety that Battlefield is used to... The optical sights on every weapon thing and the bizarre damage models for bolt actions rifles does bother me a little, but it's a tiny thing imo. And on campers, artillery can only do so much about them. The risk vs reward of sitting in a window or a corner somewhere is still going to be skewed... Preventing camping would require a lot of work into engineering the whole game around forcing players into abandoning certain strategies that are normally effective (if perhaps a little unsporting)
Well, Call of Duty is as casual as it gets and they've had massive bombardments with killstreaks for a decade now.
"Speaking in broad terms, people buy FPS games for gunplay"
That's way too simplistic. That's like saying you could never possibly have vehicles in an FPS game because "they're only here for the gunplay" nor have any melee weapons. Very few are such strict purists where they want literally nothing but gunplay.
And "hide in cover and pray that one of the fifteen shells headed your way doesn't land too close" is not how you deal with artillery, you KEEP MOVING. Artillery has a high latency, a long lag time, that's the weakness you'd exploit. Hunkering down is a part of it, but it's also about evasion and really why is there artillery raining down on your position in the first place? You must have done something to draw the attention of an artillery spotter.
"As for the prototype guns, I accept it as a way of fitting the WWI setting into the progression system and weapon variety that Battlefield is used to"
Battlefield never had THAT much weapon variety, this is NOT about weapon variety, the standard arms you'd find in such areas provide the variety... this is about any excuse to have an assault rifle in WW1. Not variety. Just giving up on being a WW1 shooter. This is like making a game set in the wild west but twisting and contorting scenarios and plausibility until everyone is armed with a weapon functionally identical to an M16 or AK47. The whole point of a western is it's six-shooters and lever actions. The whole point of WW1 is bolt-actions and heavier machine guns.
"the bizarre damage models for bolt actions rifles does bother me a little, but it's a tiny thing imo."
But it's huge, it makes it suicidal to use a rifle in close quarters, they nerfed the bolt action rifles unreasonably just to prevent people even wanting to play with them. And lo and behold, there's a demand for automatic weapons. When the bolt action cycles so slowly it's all about the one-hit-kill, but that's paradoxically absent at closer distances. How does a bullet gain more energy after leaving the muzzle?
"Preventing camping would require a lot of work into engineering the whole game around forcing players into abandoning certain strategies that are normally effective (if perhaps a little unsporting)"
The thing is, camping isn't really an emergent property of video games, they are functionally similar to real gunfights people set up in a dominant position for the same reason except it's not called camping, it's called words to the effect of "he's in a really good position" defilade and enfilade and so on. Grenades are really good at clearing these out because it's a lot easier to indirectly figure out where such a position is.
Things like artillery need to not be ancillary, they need to be THE objectives. These online game control where players are expected to go and where they cannot go. This is why a position would be attacked, it's where some sort of artillery piece is located. Instead they have arbitrary objectives like just take this red circle, stand inside it for an arbitrary amount of time. That's why artillery of any sort breaks these games, they are put in as an afterthought, even though they are so fundamental to the duties of infantry.
If you don't want to get blasted by artillery, then it's time to admit that war is a horrible thing and maybe you don't want to play a war game, maybe you'd rather play overwatch or some wizard combat game. But to dress up the look of war, as if it's something far more noble like every fight is a mano-e-mano duel of individual skill, when it's in fact far more methodical, it's far more about positioning and guile rather than running around any old place and depending entirely on twitch responses.
@@Treblaine then it only you and few little playing it . better go out play real life than listen to you
Thanks for answering my request Ian! It took some time, although I can imagine why that is. Thank you again for your time and effort, as well as for the great video!
Have you contacted the STAT at Versailles?
It's the army's technical section, and I know for a fact that they have an armory filled with over a century's worth of obscure prototype weapons that even you have never even heard of.
If there is a surviving prototype, it will be there.
Well I actually like to know if there were any such thing as the rsc smg patterns that were meant for pdw tank operators chambered in 8.5 lebel as a given
Ribeyrolles lives again in BFV....very effective & deadly in game for such a flash in the pan prototype with malfunctions IRL.
Unreal. I just got off of battlefield to check if you had a video on this gun and it was just uploaded as i went to check. Nuts stuff.
Also it does malfunction in the game. For some reason whenever i use it i constantly die and get called gay.
Well, it is a prototype.
FrÜt it’s really good idk how you be dying so much
So many candidates for the first ever assault rifle: this Ribeyrolles, the Winchester 1907 SL which was converted into full-auto, the Fedorov... Who knows, there may be more out there. Hey Ian, I'm not sure if you have already tackled on the 1907 or the Fedorov, but it would be pretty cool if you did in the future.
Its funny that Ian was a outsourced weapons consultant on Battlefield 1, but from every time he's brought the game up, its clear they only wanted him to know what weapons existed at that time and stuck them in without a care for plausibility
I mean it’s a video game centered around fast paced multiplayer, not a documentary.
@@baneofbanes but they still hired a documentarian (ian) to consult on the authenticity of the guns to use in their game where they pretend a little that it takes place in some semblance of real World War 1 XD
When Gun Jesus uploads, I instantly click. It's a way of life.
To do otherwise is a heresy. Just saying...
Luke Bunyip ...You'd be correct.
So do I
FarCry 2 has malfunctions build in.
No realistic malfunctions, your Ar-15 gets rusty and jamms after about 150 rounds, but I guess better than nothing.
Fruitninja Zero Fallout New Vegas also has malfunctions programmed on. If you don't care for your weapons and gear it eventually breaks while becoming increasingly more prone to misfeeds and malfunction.
And don't forget about Escape from Tarkov.
Also S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (it even featured the British L85 as a sort of "joke gun").
S.T.AL.K.E.R series and kinda forgotten korean MMO FPS called Operation 7 also did that. The jamming mechanics aren't supposed to be a realistic representation of every weapon, but rather a punishment for players who keep using their gear for a long time without repairs.
Or just keep using the same gear in SOC, since it didn't featured a real repair system (I don't know about COP and Clear Sky, only played the first one) unless you installed mods.
Im still trying to say "Ribeyrolle" properly.... good job Ian! Such quality and class in everyvideo. best channel on YT
Forgotten Weapons Hey Ian, not trying to be a tool or anything but to say “1918” in French, the way we always spoke anyway, was pronounced «Mille-neuf-cent-dix-huit» keep up the amazing work! You’ve inspired me to become a firearms engineer and I’ve used your videos (cited too) in my engineering projects at university. Cheers from Canada eh! 🇨🇦
What a treasure you are sir!! Your knowledge is super helpful
This is one of the best channels on RUclips in my opinion.
THANK YOU I HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR INFO
Hi Ian greetings from Venezuela, as always cool video. You now a few years ago a went to Paris with my brothers and we visit the Musée de l'Armée at Les Invalides to see the tomb of Napoleon and as you now in that museum there is a large collection of earlier french automatic rifles, pistols, submachine guns and machine guns, and I can swear that I saw a Ribeyrolles 1918 on display. I'm probably wrong but who knows. It may be the only one in existence
Best gun in BF1 imo
yes
DANNYonPC
"Hey,it's Danny here."
Preach brother. The bipod & bayonet give it great versatility.
Honestly the subguns and all the belt-fed muchineguns ruined the game.
It's really good, but if I had to pick only one from the entire game, I think it'd have to be the SMLE Infantry. My god I love that gun.
Thx Ian for all your efforts, even to pronounce all these guns names in french, we really appreciate it, and thx again for all the interest you have in french military and firearms.
I really like this format, really interesting history on true forgotten weapons (or in this case forgotten and then remembered weapons)
I find your videos good to watch and some of the guns are very interesting.
'Ribby Roll'. Sounds like something you can order at Mickey D's, but only on a seasonal basis...
I really hope there is a Ribeyrolles somewhere in the world and that it will be found.
I see that I am not the only one who appreciates PPU ammo. Merci mon Friar.
Was searching for Ribeye Rolls instead I came upon this. Definitely not disappointed
Thanks again Ian! Yesterday I was running around killing and getting killed with it in BF1. I like that game because of the old weapons and the visuals. I even have some of the rifles that are in the game! Yesterday I bought an Arisaka for $150. Another one for my WWI/WWII collection!
If that weapon were to be further developed, it could have beaten the MP-44 by over 20+ years for the title of "the world's first assault rifle".
KCMercenary223 fedorov's rifle done that in 1916
Ted Archer It didn't use an intermediate cartridge, it used the Japanese full-sized rifle cartridge
which is less powerful than intermediate 6.5 grendel
Ted Archer - Incorrect. 6.5 Arisaka gives you more muzzle energy than 6.5 Grendel regardless of load or projectile. They can be close, but the Arisaka is certainly full power, while the Grendel is at the limit between intermediate and full power.
Ted Archer The term “assault rifle” is as much a doctrinal thing as it is a set of traits. The Fedorov as far as I have seen, was used more as a crew served LMG and was only ever issued with one magazine. Definitely not an assault rifle. That’s even if you make the stretch and call the 6.5x50 an intermediate cartridge, which I don’t think it is.
Sad to hear there are no surviving rifles and only 1 picture
I would like everyone to take a moment and imagine a Gladiator bicycle Factory... Thank you all for participating.
Which manufacture machineguns...
Another awesome video! Nice one!
I don't play a lot of games, but glad you did this video. You speak to the theory of military adoption rather than trying to talk it up.
The round reminds me of .300 BLK.
Finally I know how to properly pronounce it!
Matei Goina Phonetically I would say “Rib-eh-rol”. Ian seems to have substituted the Rs with Spanish Js ;-)
Matei Goina Actually this is not quite how it should sound (even if I have to admit that his accent is nice ;) )
It would be smthg like "Ribehrol"
Oh and by the way, you should not pronounce the "L" at the end of "fusil" (which means rifle)
Great content though (as always) :)
Oh, I know the phonetic rules in french, but I was never sure if I should add a slight h to one R, or both, or none. Thanks for the help guys
Edit: accidentally claimed to be french
i just call it the 'Roller' in bf1. pretty decent overall performance ingame
English, French and Mandarin Chinese: the three hardest languages to master. Well OK, if you are lazy like me :)
Can i just say, i love the corninated use of 8mm ppu and 7.62x54R ammo as bookends for the books on their respective rifles.
With Battle field adding all of these guns that were experimental/prototypes it makes me wonder if they’ll add the SKS to their upcoming WWII game since those rifles were introduced as prototypes during that war, and what other obscure guns add.
Joshua Radick Would be nice to use the SKS and the MP44 with the bent barrel to shoot in the corners without exposing yourself. Also, the Type 4 rifle (Jap copy of the Garand), the paratrooper version of the Arisaka, the M1 carbine with night vision, etc...
Wow... I learned so much watching Ian's videos...!
There was a version of the PPSh-41 with curved barrel and one with a night vision scope too
One of these days they should do a dieselpunk type game like ironharvest or wolfenstein there they could use whatever prototype as source and could go wild .
Soshykin Didn't knew that.
Hopefully. I'd love to see obscure and prototype guns again. Here's hoping we get the SKS, De Lisle, and others. Maybe even the RPD but that might be pushing it.
Wow only 1 surviving picture, gives me the same feeling as seeing the video of the Tasmanian tiger
Ayy, love this kind of video.
It's amazing how many weapons and vehicles where made right as the armistice was signed and never saw action. the Rebeyrolles the French Char 2c Super tank and so many more.
Glad i'm not the only one that reads it as rib-eye rolls
I think it’s more comparable to the M2 Carbine. Some sort of low-power rifle in between a sub machine gun and an assault rifle.
"In video games, they never have malfunctions."
Ian, the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games would like a word with you.
CHEEKI BREEKI STALKER
A) According to Michael Bussard's "Ammo Encyclopedia", the .351 Winchester was designed with a semi-rim from the start. I am sorry if I am repeating what numerous other people have already posted.
B) The Winchester Self-Loading cartridges are interesting if you are imagining a better submachine gun cartridge than the pistol cartridges available in the 1920's and 1930's. I think any blowback weapon designed around the .351 or .401 is going to be too heavy, as was the case with the Ribeyrolles here. OTOH, the .32 WSL and .35 WSL were already obsolete and may not have offered enough of an increase in power to be worth the trouble.
C) But the .32 WSL was redesigned to become the .30 M1 carbine round (again according to Bussard) so there was potential there. The semi-rim was DROPPED in that evolution.
D) .351 was never a big deal as a hunting round, but it was popular with law enforcement...and their opposition. Up in Manitowish Waters, Wisconsin, there is still a bar or inn where John Dillinger shot it out with Melvin Purvis of the FBI and escaped over a nearby frozen lake. They still have some .351 WSL cartridges left behind by Dillinger.
Congrats Ian ! your french is really improving : just forget the L at the end of Fusil and the H in Berthier !
Could you do a video on the mindset of weapons development being in increased range?
From the modern perspective we often see missed opportunities with weapons development in repeating guns and proto assault rifles.
My gut feeling is that since the minie ball and rifled muskets to around WW2 there was a dominating mindset in the military that the weapons of the future would always have better range and the way to beat the enemy is to shoot them from the far before they can reach you.
Hey Ian, keep up the good work! One thing I did notice was an issue with your French. To say 1918, you can’t really say “dix-neuf dix-huit” as that is an English construction and sounds weird in French. You would want to say “Mille neuf-cent dix-huit,” meaning “one thousand nine hundred eighteen.” I’m impressed with how your French has improved though, and of course the videos remain fantastic.
The last time I was this early Belgium was still neutral
I hope Ian will continue this series on extinct guns and maybe give us some more videos in this Format, I for one would love an at length on the ACR program from the 90s and flechette ammunition in rifles, shotguns and debunk the war crimes claim on flechettes. I doubt Ian will ever get hold of a G11 or the colt submission for the ACR program.
I Genuinely wonder if we could engineer a support weapon firing 4-5 long flechettes from say a .410 round if that would have been a superior weapon in the mountains of Afghanistan over or 5.56 platforms for the purpose of supressive fire.
I love the way you do real frech
Speaking of Winchester 1907, you should do a video on them. I've always wanted to have one in my collection.
I like how people complain about BFV having non historically accurate weapons as if the same doesn't apply to BF1
Love that Rib-eye Rifle in BF1
The source I’ve read (Jean Huon’s Small Arms Review article) actually says that this gun was gas operated and used a semi rimmed cartridge but that long as hell receiver definitely suggests blowback.
Pity it wasn't in 7mm or 6.5mm. They might have been able to lighten up the bolt enough and had a stellar little cartridge/gun combination. I've been shooting a lot of 7-30 Waters lately, and that's a pleasant experience as well as being accurate. (Granted it's in a single shot Thompson Contender carbine.)
“Hchibbyholl.” That’s definitely not how I thought it was pronounced!
Jonathan Tatum To be fair to Ian, the rolling 'r' in French IS very difficult for Americans.
Michael Berthelsen Regardless, he is likely to have the closest pronunciation of the Ribeyrolles apart from the French. I applaud him for trying!
Just don't pronounce the 2 final letters and you should be close enough from the French.
Camp Master Noob Oh, so like, “Hchibbyhoy”?
I'm French, that's absolutely not how that's pronounced. "ey" is not "i", it's "é" or "eh".
France - invents the assault rifle
Germany - invents the submachine gun (disputed with Italy to this day) and the semiautomatic pistol
UK - invents the tank
USA - invents the plane
UK-US - invents the machine gun
Austria - invents the machine pistol
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Russia - Nah, tavarisch, we have vodka, we are stronk, da ?
Actually the fedorov avtomat was designed in 1913 so technically the Russians invented the first assault rifle concept.
@@curiousentertainment3008 Not exactly, as the Fedorov used a full powered rifle cratridge, unlike the Ribeyrolles M1918 which used an intermediate one, akin to modern ARs.
Ravioli Ravioli...
France's first assault rifle is Ribeyrolles.
ravioli ravioli
don't lewd the white-haired gun loli
My favorite gun in BF1 alongside the MP18.
Dang! It sure seems like bicycle makers were cutting edge.
It would be super neat if a company found old designs of guns that no longer exist and manufactured functional replicas for collectors.
That was very interesting. Maybe make Fedorov Avtomat video next?
We didn't even have a chance to forget this weapon. I can only think of eight people that have any accurate information on it. Ian stated he found conflicting information about the chambering. There may have been only ever two or one examples of this weapon and three thousand test rounds. I'm so glad the war ended and this weapon did not need to be developed at the time.
Thank you very much! Great video!
I love guns, I love battlefield, I also love this RUclips channel.
How I wish you were able to get your hands on one of these bad boys.
0:32 You know, I'm something of an arms designer myself.
A ribeyeroll sounds like a delicious and sarcastic lunch.
We need a 22 magnum replica of this
Absolutely enjoyed it, Ian! On the topic of shooting games, do you think there will ever be a company that designs the games to have 'realistic' jamming rates built in as part of the game mechanic, to make it a bit more realistic and to show the frustration in combat of misfires or failed ejections of older guns, when it was more prevalent than current service weapons? Personally, I think it would be rather interesting and enlightning. Might also change people's choice of main weapon, as a lot of the more powerful or rapid-fire weapons were more likely to jam. A weaker, reliable gun, I feel, is preferable over a 1-shot kill that jams every 3-4 rounds.
K Z but they don't have old historical firearms.
Far Cry 2 and Fallout: New Vegas has this. The more you use your weapons the more their conditions decay leading to jamming and in the case of Far Cry 2, the gun might blow up in your hands.
In the game trilogy, Stalker, there is this feature. Jamming and decreasing in accuracy when the weapon is worn.
Far cry 2 did that yeeaars ago
Well I did not play Far Cry 2, but I played Stalker a lot.
The Ribeyrolles was my favorite assault weapon in BF1. It just got released again in BFV, and operates alot different then the BF1 version but again is my favorite weapon for the assault class haha
There are some video games where firearms have malfunctions. One example is Far Cry 2, where prolonged use will eventually result in jammed weapons which can be fixed. (but eventually the weapon will fall apart and can't be used anymore)
Pulled one from gfl, thought the name was funny and unique, figured Gun Jesus would have a video on one, realized that there are none left in existence. Somehow, I feel deeply saddened that there are no surviving examples of this gun...
Ribeyrolles seems like the name of a sarcastic cooking show.
Why are great concepts always thrown away before people can experience such fine craftsmanship
stubborn military heirarchy and faulty doctrine.
like how it took the US over 20 years to start using force-redirecting designs for armored vehicles in the middle east.
5.1 Kg and 53/75 failures during testing.
Andrew Dalton Ray Well, 53 malfunctions in 75 shots does explain a little why it didn't pass muster.
concepts and craftsmanship are completely different things
I really enjoy your french!!!!
Nice vid
First ever assault rifle
technically yes but it was still a prototype so it doesn't really matter
Nice video, although as a gamer I should note that there are some games that do model weapon malfunction (E.g. Far Cry 2, some others as well) but they've never been very popular.
I like how the French went from a necked down 11mm to 8mm to an almost straight-walled cartridge.
Shame so many old designs have all gone away - destroyed and what not. Thanks Ian
Oh cool, i just found out about this gun trough some discussion on the definition of the term assault rifle.
Ian has a good point. He has stated the French at that time were wah ahead of every one else and should get more respect. I now agree with him! They fielded the first simi auto and started testing the first "assault weapon" wow
Using a luger as a bookend. Like a boss.