Getting there but these guards are hard to get looking good from all angles. I think I will need to compromise. I can always redo them later. I'd rather get it on the road and working then fix the cosmetics later.
Great update.. The guards are looking very nice, and I agree... the cross braces look way better than the single tube across the top. The single tube looks like something added between races in the pits. :D All the best..
II am struggling to get the guards to look right from all angles without remaking the actual guard part so it might be a case of close enough is good enough for now (which you know means it will never get fixed)!
Bumper bolts (carriage bolts) from a Mk 1 or Mk 2 Ford Cortina, Escort, Capri are imperial though not BSF if I recall. Lots of cars from that era used some variety of bumper bolts, too.
Hi Simon If you filled the ali tubes with sand and blocked the ends it will not kink. You could use stainless coach bolts and polish up, they will not rust, save you painting, chipping etc but they are in metric. All the exhaust clamps on the Falcon are metric. I have a set of sockets which the same socket deals with both metric / BSF which is handy. I have seen similar cross bracing of the front guards using fork ends in the UK. I have seen them chromed, painted etc although chrome in tension does not really work! At least with that arrangement you can adjust as they are bound to move in use. Good stuff! Cheers John
Hi John, I have tried the sand trick before and never been able to get it to work right. Apparently you can get a really low melting temperature alloy you can melt and pour into the tubes but it is expensive. I wonder if lead would work? The tube I am using is thick walled so quite tough to bend even with the bender! I've been looking at fork ends this morning actually. Hard to find something suitable. I always call them clevis ends but there are different names depending on application. Currently I am looking at 'swageless forked ends' used in wire rope applications. Most are stainless and very expensive! They are also used on pneumatic equipment. Those diagonal braces can't be under too much tension since the guards would just twist. I think it's more to stop them flapping about. I find it amusing they sometimes just stuck a straight rod right across the front of the car, guard to guard. Not pretty but practical I guess! Really shows how the Brooklands was a race car and people did whatever they needed to them to make them go faster.
@@asciimation Hi Simon I watched an old bloke bend tube and he used lead shot but the bending machine was massive! I think the tube you are using should be fine it has not split! Riley would have had a basic design to hold guards but when going racing they would be an after thought if used at all.Hence no two are alike. I do not think old Freddie used any! You are right though a bit of bar wing to wing looks a bit agricultural, to be avoided! Cheers John
Hi Simon Possibly they were originally made to come off so I suppose they all got a bit knackered hence the different designs! I have seen period races with Brooklands Rileys with guards and ERA's that never had guards, also Bentleys with and without mudguards. So not to sure, as long as yours do not fall off which I do not think they will by the time you have finished! Cheers John
Actually, that's a good question. Here's a funny thing, they SHOULD clear the guards. Turns out I messed up with the back mounts. You'll see in the next film. I need to remake part of those but it's fixable.
Looking real good 👍 from the old brit
Getting there but these guards are hard to get looking good from all angles. I think I will need to compromise. I can always redo them later. I'd rather get it on the road and working then fix the cosmetics later.
Great update.. The guards are looking very nice, and I agree... the cross braces look way better than the single tube across the top. The single tube looks like something added between races in the pits. :D All the best..
II am struggling to get the guards to look right from all angles without remaking the actual guard part so it might be a case of close enough is good enough for now (which you know means it will never get fixed)!
I am not sure if that bar was a factory race team mod or not. It quite literally might have been added between races! It was certainly done in period.
Bumper bolts (carriage bolts) from a Mk 1 or Mk 2 Ford Cortina, Escort, Capri are imperial though not BSF if I recall.
Lots of cars from that era used some variety of bumper bolts, too.
That's a good suggestion. I thing I can get those locally too.
Hi Simon If you filled the ali tubes with sand and blocked the ends it will not kink. You could use stainless coach bolts and polish up, they will not rust, save you painting, chipping etc but they are in metric. All the exhaust clamps on the Falcon are metric. I have a set of sockets which the same socket deals with both metric / BSF which is handy. I have seen similar cross bracing of the front guards using fork ends in the UK. I have seen them chromed, painted etc although chrome in tension does not really work! At least with that arrangement you can adjust as they are bound to move in use. Good stuff! Cheers John
Hi John, I have tried the sand trick before and never been able to get it to work right. Apparently you can get a really low melting temperature alloy you can melt and pour into the tubes but it is expensive. I wonder if lead would work? The tube I am using is thick walled so quite tough to bend even with the bender! I've been looking at fork ends this morning actually. Hard to find something suitable. I always call them clevis ends but there are different names depending on application. Currently I am looking at 'swageless forked ends' used in wire rope applications. Most are stainless and very expensive! They are also used on pneumatic equipment. Those diagonal braces can't be under too much tension since the guards would just twist. I think it's more to stop them flapping about. I find it amusing they sometimes just stuck a straight rod right across the front of the car, guard to guard. Not pretty but practical I guess! Really shows how the Brooklands was a race car and people did whatever they needed to them to make them go faster.
@@asciimation Hi Simon I watched an old bloke bend tube and he used lead shot but the bending machine was massive! I think the tube you are using should be fine it has not split! Riley would have had a basic design to hold guards but when going racing they would be an after thought if used at all.Hence no two are alike. I do not think old Freddie used any! You are right though a bit of bar wing to wing looks a bit agricultural, to be avoided! Cheers John
@@johnclay4811 I think whether they had guards on or not depended on the class or kind of race they were in?
Hi Simon Possibly they were originally made to come off so I suppose they all got a bit knackered hence the different designs! I have seen period races with Brooklands Rileys with guards and ERA's that never had guards, also Bentleys with and without mudguards. So not to sure, as long as yours do not fall off which I do not think they will by the time you have finished! Cheers John
So how is the steering work with these guards? Oh I see the wheels clear the guards.
Actually, that's a good question. Here's a funny thing, they SHOULD clear the guards. Turns out I messed up with the back mounts. You'll see in the next film. I need to remake part of those but it's fixable.