Action at Dealey Plaza - JFK & the Grassy Knoll | Filming The Umbrella Academy

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  • @AverageMe
    @AverageMe  5 лет назад +21

    November 22, 1963 was the correct date! I misspoke in the video.

    • @josephwallace5485
      @josephwallace5485 5 лет назад +1

      That’s cool, I do that on a daily basis! Thanks again for your videos 👍

    • @jameswinward4354
      @jameswinward4354 5 лет назад +1

      Awesome

    • @saskoilersfan
      @saskoilersfan 5 лет назад +3

      I saw dealey plaza as broken heart land.
      I saw love field as heart land.
      I saw Dallas and fort Worth on heartland.
      I saw the heartland of Texas.
      I saw Texas in the heartland of America.
      Deep in the heartland of Texas....
      Magical trajectories will fly... perceptions of Oz will be arrested....Dorothy will die.. Tinkerbell smuggling operation exposed...
      Dead Disney associates exposed ..
      Kennedy coup on Disney exposed ..
      50 years after Walt Disney death.....after a wizard of Oz incident....USA has new president Donald and vice president Mickey...
      Your clue is ....notice the twin perceptions of elm Street...
      The knoll divides the elm Street...
      Zaprudetrs film was proof of kill ..
      Media's hide the wizard of Oz killed Kennedy...
      If you remove the JFK assassination and limo....nothing changes....
      Except an event takes place on other elm Street.
      When you eliminate the JFK limo ...on elm Street....the people still run to the knoll to see what happens with elm St.
      Elm divides at Houston so technically...twin elm Street in front of Texas school book depository ...
      The knoll area divides elm Street....
      That's why zaprudetrs was standing on pedistal....to film other elm Street...through pergola...
      Brothers killed....
      One arrives by plane ..
      One arrives by train...
      Both in limos ....
      One standing ..
      One sitting ..
      One dies on elm Street.
      One dies on elm St.
      Both die from headshots..
      Both linked to dead Disney associates...
      I don't believe anything humans say on this world of deception.
      Media's hide the wizard of Oz killed Kennedy....leads to rubies death and Dorothy's death...leads to Tinkerbell smuggling operation with David ferries fairy's..
      C's Lewis died on November 22 63...
      Aldous Huxley died on November 22 63...
      Kennedy of rko productions died on November 22 63.
      I exposed the hidden trail of dead Disney associates....

    • @mgtowp.l.7756
      @mgtowp.l.7756 3 года назад +3

      22 November 1963 ( Friday )

    • @jenniferw4068
      @jenniferw4068 3 года назад

      Really lame to miss 11 22 63.

  • @WayneMoore-ui8pm
    @WayneMoore-ui8pm 4 месяца назад +8

    It was never proven that Oswald was a gunman that day. It has only been alleged, and is now impossible to prove if he even was a gunman that day.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      There's a mountain of credible evidence for his guilt.

  • @donnysmith946
    @donnysmith946 Год назад +21

    I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald fired a single shot. But I do think there were 3 shooters and they were set up in a triangle ambush. Also, I think there were as many as 7 shots total.

    • @akaredcrossbow
      @akaredcrossbow Год назад

      I believe both sewers on elm were used, one for the throat shot through the windshield, it lines up perfectly. A shot from the Dal Tex building Elm st 3rd floor window that hit Connally in the back and exited his chest and was lodged in the limo. One that hit Kennedy in the head from the TSBD and the other storm drain near the stairs almost simultaneously. The TSB shot that hit Kennedy in the head also hit Connally in the wrist and thigh when he was laying back on his wife.
      I still don’t believe Oswald fired a shot.
      I do believe Oswald knew what was going on, and he got setup(patsy). I believe Tippit was involved and Oswald killed him before Tippit could take out Oswald.

    • @donnysmith946
      @donnysmith946 Год назад +3

      @@akaredcrossbow Sounds feasible on the killing of Kennedy, but, I still don't think Oswald Killed Tippit as the shells found nearby were from a 38 auto not a 38 special Completely two different shells.

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      Why do you think they were from a 38 auto? Anyway, there were so many people who clearly saw the shooting or right after who ID Oswald that there is no mystery whatsoever; it was Oswald. People think it was a 38 auto cause the shells were ejected and who would intentionally and manually eject the shells? Oswald, that's who.

    • @donnysmith946
      @donnysmith946 5 месяцев назад

      @@peterfraser9070 they found both 38 auto casings and 38 special casings!

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 5 месяцев назад

      @@donnysmith946 but then again, you also think there were 3 JFK shooters who fired 7 shots, lol, so....

  • @darchon5
    @darchon5 4 года назад +60

    Nice video, but I do have to correct you that no, the grassy knoll area did not go "unnoticed" after the shooting. Besides the fact that some people have claimed to have seen a grassy knoll shooter, there's many people there who said they heard a shot or shots coming from the grassy knoll direction, and a bunch of them turned their heads toward the grassy knoll and/or ran towards it - and there's video of this.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  4 года назад +3

      That was my point. I don't think a shooter could have been there and not be seen; that's what I meant by unnoticed. It would have been incredibly obvious if someone was standing there with a rifle. It's my understanding that an area like that can be very deceptive as far as where a sound comes from due to echo from all the concrete buildings.

    • @darchon5
      @darchon5 4 года назад +15

      ​@@AverageMe So again, a supposed second shooter did not go unnoticed, just a smattering of key witnesses: Lee Bowers at the railroad tower, SM Holland at the bridge, and Bill Newman was the nearest on the grass. All heard shots from the grassy knoll area, not necessarily behind the fence itself. Bowers saw a flash & a puff of smoke, Holland saw smoke, and Newman said a shot came from behind him.
      They aren't the only ones, but I get what you're saying, of course more people could/should have seen something, but it certainly wasn't necessarily "incredibly obvious", as the fence, trees, and/or pergola could do enough to shield someone for a few seconds, plus no witnesses were right there at the moment of the shots. And there were no witnesses in the parking lot behind the fence because the police had cleared it out (Bowers in the tower was the closest).
      I've also been to Dealey Plaza and scouted the entire area. There are no other concrete buildings nearby (only one is diagonally across the street in the opposite direction), so I assume you're referring to the pergola. I grant that some people could be fooled by it, but was it to the point where it could fool that many people in all those different locations (EDITED for clarity: you pointed out some of the locations as I did with the witnesses, and add Tague at the underpass to that)? Not so sure.

    • @josevolga3052
      @josevolga3052 4 года назад +3

      I agree 100% with you.

    • @oshkoshb-josh5389
      @oshkoshb-josh5389 3 года назад +6

      @@AverageMe Watch the documentary series called “The Men Who Killed Kennedy”

    • @genehisle5097
      @genehisle5097 3 года назад +2

      Yep

  • @jamesfeldman4234
    @jamesfeldman4234 2 года назад +45

    Every witness that had knowledge of--or experience with--firearms or gunfire stated that at least one shot came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll. Additionally, several of those same witnesses stated that they could smell gunpowder from the Grassy Knoll. Every single doctor, nurse, or any other individual who saw JFK's head saw a hole about the size of a fist at the right rear of JFK's head, which could only have occurred from a shot from the Grassy Knoll. All blood, bone, and brain tissue went backward according to all witnesses who were close enough to see or experience that, again confirming the Grassy Knoll as the origin point of the fatal shot. There is zero question whatsoever about where the fatal shot came from, at least among intelligent people who aren't lying to themselves or others.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      ...which is a funny thing to say because your statement is filled with demonstrable lies.

    • @TheGuitarReb
      @TheGuitarReb Год назад

      All the railroad workers on the overpass were eyewitness's to the gunsmoke from the grassy knoll. The Warren commission ignored them. I wonder why? Could it be the FBI, and CIA didn't want any rogue elements to be exposed to make them look bad.

    • @Docjonel
      @Docjonel 11 месяцев назад +2

      I strongly disagree with your assessment.
      Dealey Plaza is an echo chamber and it is difficult to accurately place the shots. Zapruder and his secretary would practically have been standing next to the Grassy Knoll shooter but both thought the shots came from the direction of the TSBD.
      Now, if you are in a limousine headed down Elm Street, the Grassy Knoll will be ahead of you and to the right. Kennedy's head was rotated to the left and tilted down at the time of the head shot, presenting the right side of his head to the Grassy Knoll. A shot from there would have exited the left side of his head.
      JFK's exit wound was in the right parieto-occipital region, just above and rearward of his right ear. The wound was towards the rear of the right side of his head, but it was NOT at the very back of the occipital region, it was towards the rear but still on the right side of his head. This where a shot from the rear would exit.
      The blood spray in the Zapruder film is clearly going forward of JFK's head with some fragments bursting upward. A Grassy Knoll shot would have caused a blood spray towards the back and to the left, opposite of what the Zapruder film shows.
      Furthermore, the autopsy findings, which were reviewed by at least two different panels of pathologists in later years, showed a small entrance wound in the rear occiput of the skull that is beveled inwards with an exit wound towards the rear of the right side of his skull that is beveled outward. This characteristic beveling could only occur from a shot from the rear.
      facebook.com/ReviewFMT/photos/bevelling-of-skull-is-at-the-exit-point-of-bulletinner-table-in-entry-wound-oute/10151264507618769/

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 10 месяцев назад +3

      This grassy knoll nonsense will never end. If there was a shot from there it missed and vanished into thin air because there is no evidence of it. So Oswald is the patsy but the paid hired professional hitman with the closest easiest shot misses lol.

    • @louisbertaux5193
      @louisbertaux5193 10 месяцев назад

      Applause!
      👏

  • @mariancowles3042
    @mariancowles3042 2 месяца назад +3

    The one in commission would not talk to anyone who said the shot came from anywhere, but the six floor school book depository. They ignored 24 people’s testimony on the grassy knoll.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
      Virtually NOBODY said the shots came from the Depository AND the knoll, it was one or the other... and shots came from the Depository.
      Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead, they had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there.
      Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet and ergo, from behind.
      Kennedy is very clearly seen in the film to suffer a massive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind.
      Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
      Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos.
      Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
      It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions.

  • @rickfields1618
    @rickfields1618 2 года назад +7

    Activity was seen behind the fence by numerous people

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      Activity was seen behind the fence by numerous people: A closer inspection of this claim reveals all anybody actually said was people were around there before the shooting - it was a public place and lots of people were around to see the President. Mark Lane just twisted that easily into sounding suspicious. The movie JFK was pure fiction.

  • @timothyhoover892
    @timothyhoover892 2 года назад +45

    A whole lot of people, including police officers, ran up the grassy knoll right after the assassination. They must have noticed something.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +4

      It’s possible. Or it may have been the shots echoing or bouncing off the surrounding concrete. People get confused during unexpected high-stress situations

    • @donsutherland9299
      @donsutherland9299 2 года назад +3

      And yet Police Officer Marion Baker ran towards where he heard the shots, entered the TSBD and encountered the actual killer less than 2 mins after the shooting. So there's that.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад +2

      Officer Haygood parked his bike and raced up the knoll to secure the area; he firmly stated he found nothing and nobody. Only after an interval did people, thinking he was chasing somebody, start following him up there. Past the fence, they were filmed milling aimlessly around with nothing to see.

    • @Its_I_Ziggyman
      @Its_I_Ziggyman 2 года назад +7

      @@AverageMe People also know where a gunshot is coming from when they hear it - so they can get out of the way and get to safety. So many people on location can't have been so mistaken. There's also the video, and the medical examiner's report of the gaping hole at the back of the president's head - which is an exit wound.

    • @thomaspick4123
      @thomaspick4123 2 года назад

      End Game; The Killer Queen- Richard Hooke. Kindle. 2022. I think you will get a lot out of these two books. Please keep an open mind. I believe what these two books are saying.

  • @johnhoward3271
    @johnhoward3271 Год назад +3

    If Someone from " the Government " offers You
    some Koolaid ... ( I wouldn't advise You to drink it )

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +2

      Oh YEAHHHH!

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      By the way, that "Koolaid" reference doesn't even mean what you think it means.

  • @brianrusch2993
    @brianrusch2993 3 года назад +21

    Secret service agents in the car right behind JFK said they smelled gunpowder. How would they smell gunpowder from a gun fired from the 6th floor? Other people on the ground near the G.N. smelled gunpowder also. Next question, many people heard three shots, a pop then a pop pop. Last two shots close together. LHO had a bolt action rifle, no way to have the last two shots that close together. Add to all of this, way to many shady men standing around, including E. Howard Hunt, umbrella man, and a few fake cops and fake fbi,secret service. To much weird stuff surrounding this scene. Plus the suppression of evidence by S.S. and fbi. By the way, I used to be a lone gunman believer,not anymore. Your thoughts anyone. Have a nice day.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +2

      You can ask almost any prosecuter and they will confirm that eye witnesses (or in this case nose witnesses) are notoriously inaccurate. Most conspiracy theories that I've read refer to "evidence" that is dubious and neglect evidence that is contrary to their prefered thoery. The umbrella man was known (Louie Steven Witt), and explained why he had on umbrella. There's nothing strange about him.

    • @genehisle5097
      @genehisle5097 3 года назад

      Definately more than one shooter,i beleive lee didn't shoot anyone. Lot of eye witnesses were murdered by cia or fbi or whoever they could get to pull those murders off,just to keep the truth from the people,look at all who benefited,listen to available eye witnesses and recorded phone calls between lbj n j Edgar Hoover warmongers on 11/29/63 at 1:40 p.m.,very eye opening phone conversation 7 days later. They talk about Connelly being "in the way" "Kennedy would've definately been hit 3 times"........

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Agents said no such thing about gunpowder. Only one cop ever said anything about seeing anybody flashing some ID he never even got a good look at, and the man certainly did not identify himself as a Secret Service agent or anything else. More likely the cop saw another cop or even one of the many reporters running around.

    • @Letsgetiton41
      @Letsgetiton41 Год назад

      ​@@aaronz7056 why are you talking complete and utter c**p I bet you believed all the covid lies as well and got all your jabs willingly you really are a good obedient citizen.

    • @lennon1252
      @lennon1252 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@aaronz7056You are wrong. Officer Joseph Smith drew his gun on a suspicious man behind the picket fence. The man flashed secret service credentials and Officer Smith let him go. Later it was revealed that there were no secret service agents in that area. Who was that man? We'll never know.

  • @johnpatterson4272
    @johnpatterson4272 3 года назад +13

    Strange, how the city of Dallas, maintains Deeley Plaza in an almost pristine condition from November 1963. Yet, the trees and shrubbery have continued to grow and further obscure the view from the wooden fence of the roadway. Same for the trees by the book depository.

    • @ace-gj3wn
      @ace-gj3wn 2 года назад +2

      Back and to the left. That last shot he paned to the bridge.

    • @johnpatterson4272
      @johnpatterson4272 2 года назад +2

      @@ace-gj3wn Good eye.

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      Are you sure you're not getting that "pristine condition" thing mixed up with the very non-pristine Single bullet that absolutely positively easily hit Kennedy and Connally?

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      What does "Back and to the left" - as seen in the Zapruder Film - really matter when right before that it can also be seen by looking at frames 312 to 315 that Kennedy's head is knocked forward first and those pieces above his head are so easily visible flying up and forward.
      What does "Back and to the left" really matter when there was so much stuff from his head inside the car in front of him and on the front of the car - including bullet pieces to the front?
      What does "Back and to the left" really matter considering there was only an entry wound on the back of his head and exit to the front of that above his right ear?
      What does "Back and to the left" really matter when it was only a muscle reflex and / or jet effect? It's not important.
      His head literally exploded, so naturally stuff also flew to the sides and back - but you can see with your own eyes those skull pieces flying up and forward. So what if there was back spray - of course there was; it's only natural.

    • @johnpatterson4272
      @johnpatterson4272 8 месяцев назад

      @@peterfraser9070 Not at all, I was referring solely to the maintenance and landscape of Deeley Plaza itself.

  • @mariancowles3042
    @mariancowles3042 2 месяца назад +1

    24 people on the grassy knoll stated the shot came from behind the fence there.

  • @michaelhenneman5760
    @michaelhenneman5760 2 года назад +5

    The shooter behind the fence didn't go unnoticed, several people saw him

  • @jenniferw4068
    @jenniferw4068 3 года назад +5

    Dealey Plaza was the END of a miles long motorcade before the Stemmons freeway. Prior to 0900 on 11 22 63 Dallas police were moving people away from Elm St.

  • @johnnyreed8537
    @johnnyreed8537 3 года назад +8

    Sadly, this is one tragedy that will probably never be fully solved. There are people and forces involved that made this one of America's great tragedies; the killing of a president on video, midday riding in an open car in downtown Dallas Texas...

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +3

      The really crazy thing is traffic was flowing hours later! Today that entire area would be locked down for days.

    • @wallacebell4311
      @wallacebell4311 2 года назад

      This was fully solved within months of the shooting! The crime was actually solved in the first 48 hours if you take the time too do your research and reading of the Warren Commission Report!!! You know, the 888 pages that everyone bashes but very few have ever bothered too read!!! Also remember the other 26 volumes of supporting evidence and interviews that hardly anyone has ever read!!! The better information you have the better you can understand what actually happened on November 22, 1963 and the days, months and years of LHO’s life leading up too his pulling the trigger three times at 12:30 P. M. On that terrible November day in 1963!!!

  • @bassproable
    @bassproable 2 месяца назад +2

    Wrong, Oswald never fired a shot. It's hard to believe that people still think he was the assassin.
    The fatal shot came from the wooden fence on top of the grassy knoll with a high velocity. 222 fireball.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 месяца назад

      So he was just picked at random from hundreds of people in the area? And the snipers nest was for …? I can agree he may have been recruited, but it’s pretty clear he fired the shots.

    • @bassproable
      @bassproable 2 месяца назад

      @AverageMe Oswald was recruited by the abc, when he wasn't able to gain citizenship into the ussr, they used him for the set-up.

    • @susannebrunberg4174
      @susannebrunberg4174 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AverageMeNo, it's not clear. LHO never fired a single shot that day. He was innocent, never convicted, there was never a trial.
      Some one built a so called "snipers nest", and maybe there was a shooter or two up there, but not LHO. He was a patsy from the beginning, even he never thought he would be. He probably knew something, but far from everything. There certainly was another patsy in Chicago, when the first master plan was set up.
      It's so easy to plant "evidence" here and there. And they didn't have the same methods and techniques that we now have to analyze crimes.
      The Warren comission missed on so many level. Why? Will we ever know?

    • @rexkay158
      @rexkay158 Месяц назад

      @@AverageMethe headshot came from the front

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      a) All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
      b) Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
      c) Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there.
      d) This would be the same Oswald caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop and just shrugging a hollow, rambling reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"

  • @jameswinward4354
    @jameswinward4354 5 лет назад +12

    Mark by far this is your best video. Nice camera work. Nice history lesson

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +3

      James Winward - You are too kind! Thank you for being such a supportive you are!

  • @charlesflinnill978
    @charlesflinnill978 3 года назад +7

    More questions than answers, Oswald was not likely alone even if he was the lone gunman, which was never proven.

  • @scottmallender9738
    @scottmallender9738 2 года назад +1

    U be wrong man, there were probably 3 separate teams…

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      No evidence for any of that.

  • @OwenLoney
    @OwenLoney 10 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent educational video clip tour of Dealey Plaza and the controversial Grassy Knoll

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks! What's your opinion on the shooter(s)?

  • @markruane3660
    @markruane3660 Год назад +3

    The biggest crowds were 10 deep before the motorcade reached downtown .

  • @robertdrake8931
    @robertdrake8931 2 года назад +6

    There was a key witness who happened to be deaf so he didn't react to the shots or screaming and was in the parking lot behind the wooden fence and said that he saw someone discard a rifle down a drain pipe and then walk away he was in a police uniform. So there was a person who was not distracted by the shots.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      That’s not exactly a correct account, but the FBI reported that "the father of Virgil Hoffman stated that he did not believe that his son had seen anything of value and doubted he had observed any men running from the Texas School Book Depository and for this reason had not mentioned it to the FBI."

    • @musicnut58
      @musicnut58 2 года назад +2

      I believe that's why nobody saw a gunman. Whenever people ran up the knoll and behind the wooden fence, there were people there in police uniforms. What better way to disguise yourself if you're an assassin in a crowd?

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 2 года назад +1

      @@musicnut58 stop lying. You don't know anything about this topic.

    • @dansullivan448
      @dansullivan448 Год назад

      @@johncooper7663 obviously he knows more than you because the folks who have studied this subject matter are in full agreement that a second shooter was behind the wooden fence and he was dressed in a police uniform. anyhoo..you keep believing that magic bullet theory arlan spector made up so you can sleep better at night.

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 Год назад

      @@dansullivan448 lmao. Some random on youtube knows more than the witnesses that stated that nobody was shooting from the knoll.
      You don't know anything about this topic.

  • @davidedwards5586
    @davidedwards5586 Год назад +1

    Thr grassy knoll is a wide open area, so very little echo would come from that direction, so if people heard a shot from there, it's likely it came from there.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle.
      Victims' reactions in the Zapruder film demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo from behind.
      Kennedy's massive, explosive exit wound at the temple is inconsistent with a shot from the knoll.
      Connally's said the shots came from behind.
      Witnesses under the sixth floor window said the shots came from overhead.
      Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
      Parkland doctors looked at the autopsy photos and had no particular problem with them.

  • @ed9492
    @ed9492 3 года назад +3

    Odd seeing a few people running when someone shouts bang, bang. I always wonder how surreal it must be when actors have to act in front of a green screen to look like they are reacting urgently to things that aren't even there.

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 8 месяцев назад +1

    Strange how few people along the motorcade route on Elm were waving, and why they seem not to be looking at the presidential limousine, but behind it

  • @claytonbigsby
    @claytonbigsby Год назад +1

    The man on the triple underpass was Sam Holland. Why did he look to the left and take his "concentration" from JFK? Uh, a rifle shot? They are fairly loud you know.

    • @claytonbigsby
      @claytonbigsby Год назад

      @@aaronz7056 ruclips.net/video/wOujVXVXGnM/видео.html how is it he can communicate with mark lane? sign language

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@claytonbigsby Pardon, I thought you had said Hoffman, not Holland, nevertheless:
      Victims' reactions in the Zapruder film demonstrate they were hit by the same bullet, and from behind.
      Kennedy's massive exit wound at the right temple is inconsistent with a shot from the knoll.
      No bullets or fragments were ever found that did not match to Oswald's rifle.
      Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
      Witnesses under the sixth floor window said the shots all came from overhead.
      Autopsy shows the shots all came from behind.
      Parkland doctors looked at the autopsy photos and had no particular problem with them.
      Anybody firing a rifle on the knoll would have been absurdly obvious.
      Anybody firing a rifle behind that flimsy fence would have been very visible.
      Nobody would assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions.

  • @carydavidhoffson6014
    @carydavidhoffson6014 Год назад +1

    This was were he killed and not the book building

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад

      I think that's unlikely. It makes a great topic of conversation, though.

  • @Derek-vi1rp
    @Derek-vi1rp 10 месяцев назад +1

    I believe the 45 Caliber bullet found came from the sewer

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      What 45 caliber bullet??

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      No bullet was found in any sewer and all bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.

  • @carydavidhoffson6014
    @carydavidhoffson6014 Год назад +1

    Most of the people were going up the hill and did not care about the book building at all about it

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Majority of witnesses said the shots all came from the TSBD.

    • @fobrien1
      @fobrien1 Год назад

      "Majority of witnesses said the shots all came from the TSBD" @@aaronz7056
      false .
      "Excerpts from Fifty-,one Witnesses: The Grassy Knoll
      by Harold Feldman. Minority of One, March 1965.
      What follows is the result of a survey of the 121 witnesses to the
      assassination of President Kennedy whose statements are registered in the
      twenty-six volumes appended to the Warren Report. On the question of where
      ' the shots that killed the President came from, 38 could give no clear opinion
      an 32 thought they came from the Texas School Book T)epository Building.
      Fifty-one /author's emphasis/ held the shots sounded as if they came from west
      of the Depository, the area of the grassy knoll on Elm
      Street, the area directly on the right of the President's car when the bullets
      struck."
      and the above does not include the witnesses the commission did not speak too .

  • @marcosmith2501
    @marcosmith2501 2 года назад +3

    I never had a good image and perspective in my mind of the President's motorcade and the Texas Book Depository. Great work!

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      I was the same before my first visit there. Quite an interesting and historical place. Thanks Marco!

  • @roberthouston3809
    @roberthouston3809 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dealey plaza is an outdoor museum now

  • @Rideshare-Lisa
    @Rideshare-Lisa 5 лет назад +9

    Mark that was a great video!! Thank you for sharing that time in history with us. The Kennedy family was a great and powerful family it’s a shame greatness doesn’t last.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +2

      Rideshare Lisa - Don’t get too carried away. There was always Teddy! It’s a shame the family had so much tragedy

    • @Rideshare-Lisa
      @Rideshare-Lisa 5 лет назад +2

      I didn’t mean it like that. I meant you don’t hear of them or see them anymore.

  • @MrPerfectloveyourself
    @MrPerfectloveyourself 5 лет назад +3

    Wow Mark that JFK filming was really cool

  • @donnysmith946
    @donnysmith946 Год назад +3

    People are acting like sheep when it comes to the so called Magic Bullet. Whoever thinks that one bullet, on a downward angle from the 6th floor, hit the President in the back just below his shoulder blade, then turned upward and exited just below the Adams apple of the President, then hit Connally in his right side and broke 5 inches of his rib, the exited his lung and chest, totally shattering Connally's right wrist and then turning left to impact his left thigh. And on top of all that, there was virtually no damage to the bullet. Now, tell me about the bullet that killed the President and the fact that it snapped his head back and to the left. This means the bullet came from the right front. Plus the Parkland Doctors all stated that the back of the President's head was blown out about the size of a fist and most of his brain was blown out as well. You can see pieces of the skull and brain being blown out the Back of his head. Again indicating the shot came from the Front and the type of bullet used was an explosive bullet. Not that it has an explosive device in the bullet, but it being like a prefragmented, or frangible, bullets are composed of a prescored outer jacket with a plastic round nose containing compressed lead shot within. The result is a controlled explosion on impact producing increased damage and less clothing related problems.

  • @shuroom57
    @shuroom57 Год назад +2

    Want some fries with that Warren Report B.S. Burger?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +1

      Burgers are TASTY!

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      Want some fries with that Warren Report B.S. Burger? Isn't it better to know if something you've heard is ACTUALLY bs?

    • @shuroom57
      @shuroom57 8 месяцев назад

      @@peterfraser9070 Hi, government troll!

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      I see...anyone who isn't a CT is a troll?

  • @stephaniemontor1567
    @stephaniemontor1567 2 года назад +3

    I disagree with the one shooter theory. When Kennedy was sot in the temple his brain matter went towards the back of the limo and Jackie climbed back to get it. I do not think that bullet came from behind.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Blood and gore splattered everybody seated forward in the limo as well.

  • @mikedancona9203
    @mikedancona9203 Год назад +4

    I believe there was a 2ed shooter. If he was hit from the back, why did his head violently jerk backward ?

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Direction a person's head goes after being shot is meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from, and the limo abruptly sped up at the same moment.

    • @fobrien1
      @fobrien1 Год назад

      @@aaronz7056 greer only stepped on the gas after the head shot . he was going slow and looked back over his shoulder several times .

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@fobrien1 A) Limo abruptly sped up, Kennedy's head lurches back, to say nothing of inner neurological reactions from the explosion and his wife already tugging on him.
      B) Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
      C) Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
      D) Parkland doctors looked at the autopsy photos and had no particular problem with them.
      E) Witnesses under the sixth floor window said the shots all came from directly overhead.
      Etc.

    • @mikedancona9203
      @mikedancona9203 Год назад

      So where was the bullet found ???

    • @Jeff-bz6jp
      @Jeff-bz6jp 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@aaronz7056Yeah, physics are meaningless ain't they😅😅😅😅 ya dirk.

  • @rebelchaplain1
    @rebelchaplain1 5 лет назад +3

    Does anyone know what they were filming that day?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +1

      I still don't know, They refused to say when I was there.

    • @fionaturnbull8731
      @fionaturnbull8731 3 года назад +1

      Could it possibly have been Pakland.

    • @mrmack1257
      @mrmack1257 3 года назад

      It was a porno called Jackie Oooh

    • @Plutoyoung13
      @Plutoyoung13 2 года назад

      I’m pretty sure it was for a Netflix show

  • @geoffreylachner6779
    @geoffreylachner6779 Год назад +5

    I heard the radio report of the shooting that day. I recall being told that witnesses had said the shots came from the "grassy knoll". I heard this repeated once again, and then not again by radio or TV by MSM. Witnesses who were interviewed that said anything about the grassy knoll were dissuaded by the interviewers that that is what they heard etc. James E Files has admitted being that shooter. U can C his video on you tube -- unless it has been taken down. Any sportsman or athlete will understand where the headshot came from by watching the Zapruder film and realize that couldn't have come from the rear. so much for "speculation" about the grassy knoll.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Phone records demonstrate Files was in Chicago during the assassination. Confronted with this, he tried to claim he was being confused with his own, non-existent twin brother. No wonder NBC cancelled their planned TV show on this lying clown after they took a closer look at him.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Kennedy clearly suffers a massive exit wound at the temple utterly inconsistent with a shot from anywhere but the rear.
      Connally's said the shots all came from behind.
      Witnesses under the sixth floor window said the shots all came from overhead.
      Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
      Parkland doctors looked at the autopsy photos and had no particular problem with them.
      Anybody firing a rifle behind that flimsy fence would have been absurdly obvious and visible.
      No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Your insistence interviewers were leaping on witnesses like that to help some cover-up is ridiculous. What is this, Soviet Russia?

    • @robertbruce1887
      @robertbruce1887 Год назад

      Aron Z: Why is is that so many witnesses who had testimony to contradict the " Official" Warren Commission strangely were murdered?

    • @ralphgilson9989
      @ralphgilson9989 2 месяца назад

      Definitely a conspiracy, more than one shooter, LHO not one of them. I believe Files was not a shooter either.

  • @markpenley
    @markpenley Год назад +1

    You need to look in the pergola behind zapruder

    • @9Ballr
      @9Ballr 11 месяцев назад

      I've looked, there's nothing in there.

  • @ericbarnes3829
    @ericbarnes3829 3 года назад +9

    Ozwald did not shoot anyone. Remember back and to the left? Have you never been hunting? That means he was shot from the front right.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 года назад +1

      What type of bullet was used?
      If it was a sniper's round, it was soft-point. Kennedy's head wouldn't have been surrounded by a spray of tissue; it would have been obliterated.
      If it was a jacketed slug, it would have taken out Jackie's head.
      Those are the only options.

    • @smdftb8495
      @smdftb8495 3 года назад

      Yes I've been hunting. You don't know what you're talking about.

    • @ericbarnes3829
      @ericbarnes3829 3 года назад +1

      @@smdftb8495 You can believe anything you like.

    • @smdftb8495
      @smdftb8495 3 года назад

      @@ericbarnes3829 and you can too. Enjoy your tinfoil ballcap.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Kennedy's head goes forward several inches at the instant of impact.

  • @User-infinity468
    @User-infinity468 4 месяца назад +2

    It was probably the badge man was standing shooting at jfk behind picket wooden fence grassy knoll

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  4 месяца назад +1

      I think the badge man is a myth. There’s no such thing, just an optical illusion. I suspect you’re joking.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      Badge man is too big to be human and all credible ballistic, forensic, medical, eyewitness and film evidence clearly demonstrate the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle.

  • @jad8123
    @jad8123 3 года назад +2

    I was born in November of 1964. I have always grown up with the JFK assassination anniversary. It was a weird thing having your birthday a few days before the 22nd of November and always seeing and hearing about it every November. The 25th & 50th anniversary were pretty big but now it isn’t discussed or talked about since most weren’t even born then. I’ve never been to Dealey Plaza but I hope to go there sometime soon. It’s amazing how it looks the same after all these years. Great job on the video.

    • @hallsjuju2400
      @hallsjuju2400 2 года назад

      Imagine having your birthday the day of your fathers funeral.

    • @richardkalmwater5996
      @richardkalmwater5996 2 года назад

      Everyone that sees Dealey Plaza in person seems to have the same reaction, "It is much smaller than I thought".

  • @7bridgesroad213
    @7bridgesroad213 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder what they were filming

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 месяца назад +1

      The Umbrella Academy

  • @richardkalmwater5996
    @richardkalmwater5996 2 года назад +3

    If there was one gunman, where 3 shots were fired from the same location, with the same gun, and with the same ammunition then witnesses should have heard 3 sounds that sounding the same. This means each shot has the same volume, same pitch, and same tone for all "three shots". Since many witnesses at Dealey Plaza describe the 1st shot as sounding like a firecracker, we should have heard 3 firecracker sounds. That did not happen...
    Instead we get one firecracker sound for the 1st shot, then a loud boom for the 2nd shot, that sounded much closer to the witnesses, and for the 3rd shot, many heard nothing. From the sounds alone we can suspect 3 shooters...with the 3rd assassin using a supressor to fire a round below the speed of sound. BUT....since the Feds repaired the shot-up car and other evidence destroyed other evidence, we lost the chance to prove multiple gunmen.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      No evidence for that, and the only damage to the limo was a crack caused by a bullet fragment to the windshield and the inside of the chrome plating, both still in the National Archives.

  • @enadolgel5504
    @enadolgel5504 Год назад +2

    If zapruder was standing on the other side of the road, where you go up with your finger 11:29, we would have seen the whole scene filmed by lee oswald firing all three shots at the president. He would have filmed the texas school depository and the victim in the same frame. If someone who was there on November 22, 1963 at 12:30 p.m. and filmed the texas school depository, there, he has indisputable proof that it was indeed lee oswald the assassin, and that he acted alone. But I think even if there is a movie tape like this, the CIA would hide it and declassify it in 200 years.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +2

      If I could go back in time, I would have done exactly as you described and ended this once and for all (nope, I wouldn't stop the assassination).
      Of course, even then people would dispute that he acted alone. And that's something we will probably never be able to prove.

  • @wwredgrl1515
    @wwredgrl1515 2 года назад +3

    When you look up at the building from the X mark on the road, doesn’t it look sinister??? Or am I the only one that thinks it???

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +2

      I suppose, knowing what happened, it’s a little creepy.

  • @jesusnameaboveallnames6048
    @jesusnameaboveallnames6048 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks Mark! Enjoyed it. I'm glad you filmed this.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +1

      jason conditt - thanks!!

  • @susansjs
    @susansjs 2 года назад +1

    the large crowd was before JFK got to Elm St.

  • @xxchicagobadboyxx
    @xxchicagobadboyxx 2 года назад +7

    There were 18 doctors that noted a large wound in the right occiput with pieces of brain, cerebellum, as well as an entry wound in the neck. Fragments of bullets were embedded in Connelly. The autopsy at Bethesda, by 2 docs that never did a GSW autopsy, show a picture of small hole in the right occiput, small hole right scapula area, and no record of a neck wound, but after discussing with Parkland, modified their report to include a hole in the neck. They didn't find a bullet, even after taking out the lungs, so they concluded, that during cpr, the bullet fell out, and was found pristine at Parkland. The pristine bullet weigh was < 1.5% of it's actual weight, but bullet fragments were removed @ Parkland weighing more, and noted in the nursing notes. Conley was buried with bullet fragments in him. During the Zapruder film, it's clear, while JFK is shot, holding hands to neck, Conley is not, and holding his stetson, and turning around to see what's up with JFK. The single bullet could not have hit both men at the same time.
    ruclips.net/video/mqr8cfATwyo/видео.html

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Rubbish.

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 2 года назад

      Garbage.

    • @benitoherrero3895
      @benitoherrero3895 2 года назад

      The head they autoposed in Bethesda was the head of the policeman Tippist who they say Oswald killed, they needed another head so that if JFK's body was unearthed in the future it would agree with the version that it was Oswald from behind

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 2 года назад

      @@benitoherrero3895 be less stupid

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@benitoherrero3895 Crackpot idiocy.

  • @chab1rd155
    @chab1rd155 2 года назад +6

    Nice video HOWEVER L. H. Oswald did NOT shoot Kennedy. Period!

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      Who do you suppose did?

    • @chab1rd155
      @chab1rd155 2 года назад

      @@AverageMe A combination of forces were behind it. All with something to gain from his death...the CIA...FBI...MAFIA..BIG OIL..JOHNSON. Either all of them or a combo of a few conspired together.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      All credible evidence points right at Oswald.

    • @chab1rd155
      @chab1rd155 2 года назад +1

      @@aaronz7056 ok 🙄

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      @@chab1rd155 He owned the guns.
      He showed up at the Paine house Nov 21 unexpected, unannounced and in mid-week, all for the first time.
      Next morning he leaves behind his wedding ring (for the first time) and money for his wife to find. Suddenly he possesses a package he didn't arrive with while his rifle teleports itself to the TSBD.
      A man was seen in the window who could plausibly have been him.
      His palm print was on the rifle stock.
      He was the only TSBD employee inside the building to immediately flee after the assassination.
      He took evasive action to his rooming house, saying nothing to the cab driver and his landlady when they tried to talk to him.
      He was seen shooting Tippit by several people, on his flight, his attempt to hide in the storefront, and ducking into the theater.
      He was caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop minutes later and fought so violently three officers were injured arresting him.
      In custody, he's arrogant, tight-lipped, lied, blanket-denies everything, requests a lawyer he's never met who specializes in left-wing causes, and can barely keep the smirk off his face even when his brother visits or he knows the cameras are on him.
      Asked on live TV if he shot the President, he just rambles hollowly and ducks the question.
      He doesn't beg protection for his family, or make the slightest attempt to spill what he knows or suspects about a conspiracy framing him, just mumbles away about generic "legal assistance" and complains the cop he tried to shoot hit him.
      No bullets or fragments were ever found that did not match to his weapons.
      Yeah, he was innocent.

  • @barryirvin2417
    @barryirvin2417 5 месяцев назад +1

    You have it right . Oswald did it alone .

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 месяцев назад +1

      I just think that’s where all the facts are. Most other theories are primarily speculation. Thera NO evidence of a shooter behind the fence, for example. There was an entire snipers nest in the TSBD. Yea, it could be a setup, but until it’s proved I think reasonable people have to follow the facts.

    • @barryirvin2417
      @barryirvin2417 5 месяцев назад

      Snipers nest in TSBD ? Don’t think so . Roy Truly stated there were no strangers in TSBD before the assassination. Others that worked in TSBD have stated the same . Norman , Williams and Jarman all employees of TSBD heard 3 shots directly above them as they were on the 5 th floor watching parade go by . This would be Oswald’s sniper perch . They made a case for one sniper and 3 shots .

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@barryirvin2417 That’s what I’m referring to.

  • @gregorybathurst4326
    @gregorybathurst4326 3 года назад +2

    What was with tackling umbrella man ?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      I guess a stunt man. It was a character from the show

  • @QuincyDisneyVegan
    @QuincyDisneyVegan 5 лет назад +5

    Great job Mark! Very thorough and engaging video. I'm sure I'm a few months we'll start seeing trailers and hearing about the film that was being made while you were there.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +1

      Quincy, Uber Vegan - I hope so. Of course it could just be an episode for a TV show, you never know.

  • @Tackytiger74
    @Tackytiger74 Год назад +7

    Great vid - I had no idea that there's a a pergola structure on the other side of Dealy Plaza too - Thanks for pointing that out.
    FYI there are tons of witnesses who saw and heard at least one shot from the picket fence area. Many who ran to that area report being confronted by armed men claiming to be "Secret service" many have been intimidated and killed in mysterious circumstances. If Oswald was acting alone, he could not have known that the motorcade was running 10 minutes behind schedule therefore would have to have been laying in wait at the 6th floor window between 12:15 & 12:30 So how could he have been seen by 2 colleagues in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:26?

    • @dolnick7
      @dolnick7 Год назад +1

      There weren't "tons of witnesses" who heard shots from the picket fence area, even less who saw anything there. Those who claim to have, like Lee Bowers and Jean Hill, have radically embellished their stories compared to what they told the FBI immediately after the shooting. A majority of witnesses who had an idea of the direction of the shots placed them behind the president in the direction of the TSBD.
      There were plainclothes special agents working with sheriff's department who could well be confused with Secret Service agents. The idea that witnesses are dying mysteriously is another figment of Penn Jones' fertile imagination and has no basis in fact. It's funny that all these conspiracy authors pump out books every year exposing "the truth," yet are in perfect health. Jim Marrs of Crossfire fame just recently passed away at the ripe old age of 74. I guess they finally got him, huh?
      When Oswald was being interviewed by police, he first claimed to have been eating lunch with two coworkers. They both denied that Oswald ate with them. Oswald later said he was on some unspecified upper floors. The only witness who placed Oswald on the lower floor at the time of the shooting was a young secretary who at first said she glimpsed Oswald standing on the second floor but then later said she saw him seated in the second floor lunchroom. However, another worker who ate lunch right before the president's arrival said that Oswald was never there.
      Since the evidence points to Oswald being the lone assassin and as no shots hit anyone from the grassy knoll area, and more importantly, since Oswald himself was unable to provide a convincing alibi for his whereabouts at the time of the assassination, we can safely conclude that the secretary was mistaken and that Oswald fired three shots from the sixth floor window, scoring two hits, just as the Warren Commission determined. Now perhaps the CIA put him up to it; perhaps not. The answer to that lies within the many documents currently being withheld from public view, not with wild theories concerning grassy knoll assassins.

    • @Tackytiger74
      @Tackytiger74 Год назад

      @@dolnick7 😆😆😆😆 Very entertaining 😆😆😆

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Only person to place Oswald in that location at that time was Oswald, and the people he said he was with flatly denied ever seeing him.

  • @EverettBaland
    @EverettBaland 6 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting video. But remember, those in the Oswald camp can't say it was him, only that they think so.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  6 месяцев назад +2

      That is true! Unless you’re the killer, all any of us can say is who we think it is.

    • @EverettBaland
      @EverettBaland 6 месяцев назад

      @@AverageMe True indeed. We know we can't confirm Lee being there, but here is what is interesting and sobering. Anyone that might have known a piece of the puzzle, was eliminated in short order.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 27 дней назад

      Oswald owned and smuggled the rifle.
      Oswald's latent print was on the rifle.
      Oswald had every bullet and fragment ever found matched to his rifle.
      Oswald lied to police about his whereabouts during the shooting.
      Oswald was a perfectly plausible match to the shooter seen in the window.
      Oswald was inside a building where no unidentified persons were ever seen by anybody.
      Oswald was the only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee and never return.
      Oswald took evasive action to sneak back to his rooming house.
      Oswald ignored his cab driver when he asked him about the commotion in the streets.
      Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Officer Tippit and fleeing.
      Oswald owned and was in possession of the revolver the shells were matched to.
      Oswald discarded his jacket, complete with fibres consistent with his shirt, between the crime scene and the theater.
      Oswald was plainly seen trying to hide from and dodge passing police.
      Oswald was caught red-handed trying to shoot the first police officer to approach him in the theater.
      Oswald fought police so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him.
      Oswald observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing.
      Oswald refused to cooperate with any investigator.
      Oswald turned down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association.
      Oswald was only interested in a lawyer he'd never met living in another state who specialized in left-wing causes.
      Oswald acted so smug he even convinced his own brother he was guilty.
      Oswald never attempted to blow any conspiracy framing him to any cop, any member of his family, to the President of the DBA, or to a live TV audience of millions.
      Oswald just shrugged a hollow, rambling, unsurprised, evasive reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"

  • @mgtowp.l.7756
    @mgtowp.l.7756 3 года назад +3

    They Didn't Have Any American Flags When JFK Was Passing By. In Dallas In 1963.. I See Many People With Flags As They Are Shooting The Movie..

  • @akaredcrossbow
    @akaredcrossbow Год назад +1

    Great video!
    I did notice at 11:55 either the camera angle is wrong or that first X is in the wrong place. The curbs, lanes, sidewalk all seem to line up, but the right corner of the street doesn’t line up. It makes it look like Zapruder was a lot closer or he was zoomed in more. If he was zoomed in more then the lanes wouldn’t line up with your video.
    That first X lines up perfectly with the first shot they heard that missed, not the neck shot.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +2

      Well, I didn't have the exact same lens, that's what makes the difference.

  • @mericanboy8054
    @mericanboy8054 10 месяцев назад +2

    I just visited the Grassy Knoll yesterday and it definitely has a dark feeling. It is such a tight little area, a fishbowl. It’s undeniable that Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy. The way JFK was struct, his backward motion, and the trajectory of his skull is absolutely not from behind and above.

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      The way JFK was struct, his backward motion, and the trajectory of his skull is absolutely not from behind and above.: You have never watched the Zapruder Film slowed down and seen his head go forward and down? Those pieces above his head at impact are so easily visible going up and forward - you have seen that with your own eyes. You realize, don't you, there was so much stuff from his head, including pieces of the bullet, to the front of Kennedy?

  • @tomkeeler4243
    @tomkeeler4243 2 года назад +2

    The kill shot came from the right side of the bridge base. A hollow cavity in the triangle section of the bridge, just big enough to take the shot.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      What is your opinions based on?

    • @tomkeeler4243
      @tomkeeler4243 2 года назад

      @@AverageMe
      I've looked at many films. Some you can see were altered, some the frames reversed.
      But in conclusion; the shot hit Kennedy's temple at a 1:00 position, using the front of the vehicle as a reference point. That shot blasted out of the back of his head. You can see the bullet impact from the front first, ( a spray of blood ) then the back of the head gives way. The trajectory of the bullet is in direct alignment with the triangle, as well as the angle.
      Another shot came from the 2:00 position behind the fence. ( With smoke )
      Another shot came from the 6:00 position behind the president.
      3- shots and a natural amphitheater enhanced the echoes.

    • @bradbackauthor9940
      @bradbackauthor9940 2 года назад +1

      I disagree! In 1987 I was privately shown a copy of the ORIGINAL UNALTERED Zapruder film, which very clearly shows the DRIVER of JFK's limousine turn around with a GUN in his left hand, and kill JFK by shooting him in his head!!

    • @tomkeeler4243
      @tomkeeler4243 2 года назад +2

      @@bradbackauthor9940 If you say so. 🤫

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад +1

      @@bradbackauthor9940 Idiocy.

  • @davidsincere7117
    @davidsincere7117 5 лет назад +2

    My earliest childhood memory was hearing that Kennedy was shot. It played on the tickertape And stock broker offices before was announced on the television.

    • @saskoilersfan
      @saskoilersfan 5 лет назад

      I only laughed when they said Oz killed Kennedy with magical trajectories and saw Kennedy and lewis and Huxley as dead Disney associates.

  • @bradleyandrus59
    @bradleyandrus59 Год назад +2

    Horrible misrepresentation in my opinion dear sir!!!
    Everyone Gets to have their own opinion. But you say and I quote "I believe there was only one shooter " well that would be impossible unless Oswald was FLASH THE MARVEL character... here's why....
    For starters there WERE 5 shots EXACTLY don't listen to the hoorah ! Even ppl who were there most were almost fed a narrative in which their concious brain decision stuck with what they were 8n a way asked/told.... exple: "SO mam or sir (we counted exactly 3 shots and the other people interviews says the same..... so .... how many shots were there????)
    It's asking a question while also making these people believe their answer! Any human being asked unless 100% or 10000%positive after being told numerous ppl heard only 3, most people would prob feel stupid or inaccurate spewing a number that NO ONE ELSE GAVE!...
    BUT THE KICKER!! MORE THAN ONE GUNMAN FOR SURE , WHERE WAS HE , MY GUESS SOMEWHERE TO THE FRONT RIGHT, WITH POSSIBLY A SUPPRESSOR... IF THEY HAD THAT TECH AT THE TIME! THE PRESIDENTS FATAL HEAD SHOT .....
    PAY ATTENTION, AS THE BULLET STRIKES IT THROWS HIS HEAD BACKWARD AND TO THE SIDE!.
    THEREFORE PLZ .... IF IM WRONG TELL ME HOW A HIGH POWERED OR EVEN LOW POWERED RIFLE SHOT FROM THE REAR WOULD MAKE A PERSONS HEAD LEAN BACKWARDS AND BRAIN MATTER AND SCALP FLY BACKWARDS!?!?!?!?!?!
    I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO KNOW!
    IM NO SMART PERSON NO DEGREE OR ANYTHING OF THE SUCH... IV JUST STUDIED THIS FOR A WHILE NOW ON MY OWN COGNISENCE AND LEARNED ALOT OVER THE YEARS ON HISTORY PERIOD FROM MY FATHER!!

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @abbieann5715
    @abbieann5715 5 лет назад +8

    Very interesting Video
    It seems so strange that they have never closed off this street where the assassination happened for respect to President Kennedy.
    I wonder what was being filmed while you were there ?

    • @dustyflair
      @dustyflair 3 года назад +6

      hell, they let traffic drive thru it that same day.....

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      It's a major thoroughfare in the city.

  • @armzforte23
    @armzforte23 3 года назад +1

    7:24 answer is yes, is called peripheral vision.
    Eyes and brain will register your surroundings even if not focused at.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      In that case, wouldn’t more people on the grassy knoll have seen a guy standing with a rifle at the fence? I don’t see how anyone standing nearby would not have seen or heard that

    • @armzforte23
      @armzforte23 3 года назад

      @@AverageMe what do you mean? That is the reason they all run towards the fence.Because they saw something. Oh well enough of my replies .

    • @christopherfranklin1881
      @christopherfranklin1881 3 года назад

      I made a point of visiting the grassy knoll on a trip to Dallas a few years ago. I find it virtually impossible for someone to stand there with a rifle totally unnoticed. And do you realize how difficult it is to hit a moving target running 90 degrees across your vision plane? Also, the Zapruder film shows Kennedy's head reacting to a shot hitting him from behind. A shot hitting him from his right would force his head to the left. Looks like these crazy conspiracy "theories" just won't die.

    • @armzforte23
      @armzforte23 3 года назад

      @Js Bchad thank you Sr.

    • @42rufe
      @42rufe 3 года назад

      @@christopherfranklin1881 the Grassy Knoll gunman hit JFK in right temple @ Z-313........shot made easy because Limo had stopped or greatly reduced speed.......brake light came on.....JFK was also hit in back of head @ Z-327 by Nicoletti in Dal Tex Bldg.......source - Robert J Gordon, (2013), JFK: Absolute Proof, 345 pages.........see Chapter 6 - 2 fatal head shots.....pages 107 to 116............................. So yes, Chris, JFK was shot in head from from behind...........BUT you must also start believing in the front head shot.....the DPD motorcycle cop to left rear of Limo was splattered with blood and part of JFK skull

  • @woody625
    @woody625 2 года назад +1

    What flavor was your Kool-aid???

  • @enadolgel5504
    @enadolgel5504 Год назад

    It's the longest re-enactment I've ever seen in my life without knowing the real guilty.

  • @community1949
    @community1949 3 года назад +3

    Period clothing? That happened in 1963 NOT 1863.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +2

      Haha! Well, the "tackler" was from the future.

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 3 года назад +5

    7:24 the smoke comes after the shot and is well within the eye line. OK if you think it was Oswald alone.... just means you don't know much about the case.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +3

      I’ve read a lot of the conspiracy theories out there. I just don’t agree with them. Many are pretty far fetched, leave out details to make the theory work, or add other opinions as fact. It’s ok to disagree, that’s half the fun, but suggesting I’m uninformed is incorrect. Thanks for watching!

    • @royfr8136
      @royfr8136 3 года назад +1

      @@AverageMe OK. I am sure you believe the 911 comission as well.

  • @kevinkavanaugh946
    @kevinkavanaugh946 2 года назад +1

    Dope, there were hundreds of thousands of people on the parade route. The day before they changed the parade route. The police kept people away from the plaza. The witnesses were looking at Kennedy and a very loud gun shot rang out, that noice drew the attention of several witnesses to the noice and the the smoke.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Parade route was never changed.

    • @Letsgetiton41
      @Letsgetiton41 Год назад +1

      ​@@aaronz7056 Yes it was.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@Letsgetiton41 That was the standard parade route through downtown Dallas, it's right there in the newspapers days before Nov. 22 described accurately, and you can't drift between lanes in Dealey Plaza to get to the onramp to go the Trade Mart.
      As if it wouldn't be easier for some conspiracy to move their assassin to a closer vantage point anyway rather than going to the top and asking them to move the parade route closer to the assassin in order to make it easier to shoot Kennedy....

  • @josephwallace5485
    @josephwallace5485 5 лет назад +2

    Hello Sir,
    I believe it was 1963
    Anyway great video, thanks!

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +1

      yes I misspoke. Nov 22 1963

  • @davop4919
    @davop4919 Год назад +2

    This guy is so wrong lol....

  • @clydemoyler8021
    @clydemoyler8021 3 года назад +1

    WELL DONE THANK YOU FOR SHARING

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Clyde! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @wesludtman8323
    @wesludtman8323 5 лет назад +4

    Period clothing and all! I bet that made for a fun day.

  • @jimmcdiarmid7308
    @jimmcdiarmid7308 4 года назад +2

    I was there about 25 years ago and the trees were much smaller then and that was over 30 years after the assassination, so they must have even a lot smaller in 1963. There was a clear view from behind the wooden fence. Watch the movie “JFK” for more theories.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  4 года назад +5

      Of course, that movie is a lot of fiction though. Standing there, I don't think there is any way someone could have been aiming and firing from behind that fence and gone unnoticed. Based on what you just said, it would have been even less likely with less coverage. Everyone has their theories; I happen to believe the simplest, most direct and obvious answer is the correct one. I think most people find it hard to accept that one crazy guy could disrupt the world, and need a "deeper" answer.

    • @kerry1111111
      @kerry1111111 3 года назад +4

      @@AverageMe But Senator Yarbrough stated he smelled gun smoke as they passed by the knoll he was riding in The car with the Vice President Johnson just a few cars back?

    • @stephenevans5830
      @stephenevans5830 3 года назад

      not according to ​@UCevQl5vWrZ2305CeV-r58HQ facts!!

    • @vincentfalsaperla
      @vincentfalsaperla 2 года назад

      @@AverageMe It"s amazing how with not a single shred of evidence you want to believe that LHO shot anybody that day...let alone the president. As Oswald said "i shot no one". Pretty funny for one who supposedly wanted the glory but denies having nothing to do with it? And how convinent it was for him to have been shot live on tv? If that does not raise suspicion? You mus live under a rock? And here is a piece of detective work i will give for free.The fatal head shot came from a a gunman in the drain on the curve adjacent to those steps leadind up the grassy knowle.The gunman had a perfect shot and no one would notice.People said they saw a large wisp of smoke rising up the grassy knowle....that because like a chamber release the smoke from the shot lef the gutter slit and drifted out. Ps i have researched for many many years on all facets of the case.LhO was as he said a" patsy". P.s. LHO was no local nutter!!!

    • @martybuster8364
      @martybuster8364 Год назад +1

      I've been to Dealey Plaza and stood behind that picket fence. It's a much smaller area in real life then it looks on film or in pictures. I believe it's very possible for a shooter to have been there unnoticed by people. Especially when you consider everyone there would be concentrating on the President's car and nowhere else at the time of the shooting. What better way for a shooter to go unnoticed then to be dressed in a police uniform. He could just easily blend into the crowd afterwards and not have to escape until much later considering all the confusion at the time it would be easy to do. Nobody would suspect a police officer. Witnesses said there were men showing Secret Service credentials on the grassy knoll before and after the assassination keeping people away from that area. Secret Service officially said they had no men on the ground in Dealey Plaza that day. Lee Bowers a railroad employee was on duty that day in the control tower in the parking lot behind the picket fence. He said he saw 2 men standing next to the fence before the shots were fired, in the same area where witnesses said they saw smoke come out under the trees. He also said he saw 2 other men standing by the end of the fence closer to the pergola, and they appeared to be dressed in some kind of uniform. I find his story very interesting when you consider other witnesses stories. Lee Bowers died in a mysterious car accident later. I believe the movie JFK comes very close to how the actual shooting sequence took place. This is only 1 area for a shooter or shooters to have been that day, I believe there were also other shooters involved in various other locations throughout the plaza that day. These are just my opinions of course and not proven facts. I urge anyone that is interested in the JFK assassination to visit Dealy Plaza if possible and judge for yourself. Its definitely an experience you won't forget.

  • @JohnDoe-wb4iv
    @JohnDoe-wb4iv Год назад +1

    The reason why they made the umbrella Turn inside out at the testimony of said umbrella man at house assassination committee hearing was to add to absurdity mystique that he was involved it was to tell others to take more shots

  • @markruane3660
    @markruane3660 3 года назад +17

    If you know anything about the assassination there were 3 teams of assasins and oswald was set up to take the blame for it.

    • @smdftb8495
      @smdftb8495 3 года назад

      Lol. No.

    • @markruane3660
      @markruane3660 3 года назад +3

      @@smdftb8495 Then obviously you know nothing about the assassination at all!!!!!!

    • @smdftb8495
      @smdftb8495 3 года назад +2

      @@markruane3660 I've studied it for decades. I wanted it to be sexy with a bunch of compartmentalized teams, etc. It isn't. Oswald didn't necessarily act alone, but he shot alone, and you have ZERO credible evidence to the contrary. Don't tell me what I know, pal.

    • @markruane3660
      @markruane3660 3 года назад +1

      @@smdftb8495 What is sexy about a president getting his head blown off!!!!!!!!!!

    • @smdftb8495
      @smdftb8495 3 года назад

      @@markruane3660 I'm talking about the elaborate conspiracy theories. You know exactly what I mean. Good Lord.

  • @feroz31
    @feroz31 Год назад +3

    I feel something happened inside the car, the shots were coming from multiple directions, also possible there was a timed firecracker to create distraction.
    Look at the fatal shot frame(cover the jfk face) in zapruder film, something is exploding below his face n going upwards.

  • @robertomorales1297
    @robertomorales1297 5 лет назад +2

    Great video!!!

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +2

      Roberto Morales - thank you!

  • @billelston677
    @billelston677 3 года назад +3

    You need to do more research on this topic. Read some books and take a close look at the Zapruder film.

    • @peterfraser9070
      @peterfraser9070 8 месяцев назад

      You need to do more research on this topic. Read some books and take a close look at the Zapruder film.": Excellent point, thank you. Yes, a close look at the Z Film frames 312 to 315 clearly show a forward motion on impact and the pieces above his head can be seen flying up and forward anyway at regular speed. The Z Film also shows a very obvious and sharp reaction by Kennedy and Connally at the same time to the Single Bullet.
      Some how people just ignore these things.

  • @EmmaJonYoureWelcome
    @EmmaJonYoureWelcome 5 лет назад +4

    This is pretty cool we don’t get taught too much about American history so it’s always cool to learn.
    It’s cool that they were filming while you were there. X

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  5 лет назад +3

      It's more than just a tragic moment in our history. It's also one of the biggest mysteries, since many people believe it's an unsolved conspiracy.

    • @community1949
      @community1949 3 года назад +2

      You mean to tell me that President Kennedy's death is not taught in schools now? So you really don't know anything about it? I was taught about Lincoln's murder while in school in the 1950's and 1960's - what has happened to the school systems in this country.

    • @EmmaJonYoureWelcome
      @EmmaJonYoureWelcome 3 года назад

      @@community1949 We live in the U.K. so we get taught more British History than American history x

  • @HappyLife-vh2ey
    @HappyLife-vh2ey 2 года назад +2

    It was soo stupid to go that route with all the tall buildings . Perfect setup ...smdh.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Kennedy rode in open limos through cities surrounded by tall buildings often.

  • @izraulhidashi4323
    @izraulhidashi4323 Год назад +2

    Just so you know the real snipers nest was behind Zapruder in the concrete pergola. Head shot came from middle window.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment, I have to disagree. If you’ve ever stood there, you’ll realize there is no way someone would be able to take a shot from behind Zapruder without being noticed - easily noticed - and captured. Not just unlikely, but simply impossible.

    • @ruitrindade1319
      @ruitrindade1319 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@AverageMevê-se na foto de morman depois de ampliada perfeitamente o clarão do tiro vindo do interior da pérgola!

  • @TheSilvergold45
    @TheSilvergold45 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video !!!
    Great job sir.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Jeff! I hope I can figure out what the filming was!

    • @hukumongdu
      @hukumongdu 4 года назад +1

      I think it could be the Netflix series, “Umbrella Academy, season 2”

  • @genehisle5097
    @genehisle5097 3 года назад +1

    You think it went unnoticed?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      What are you referring to?

    • @genehisle5097
      @genehisle5097 3 года назад

      @@AverageMe I see now what he ment by that,at first i didn't. I'm sorry.

    • @genehisle5097
      @genehisle5097 3 года назад

      And you did make a very good video as far as letting the veiwers see so many important vantage points. Nice,thank you.

  • @ronfrey5327
    @ronfrey5327 3 года назад +5

    James Files shot JFK from the knoll using a 221 fireball pistol in a briefcase
    Charles nicoletti used a german Mauser 30-06 from Dal Tx 3rd floor.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      No evidence for that rubbish.

  • @Hof79905
    @Hof79905 2 года назад +1

    Why didn’t you ask them what they were filming for?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      Two reasons: we couldn’t get close enough to ask due to security, and those I did talk to said they didn’t know. But I later found out it was for The Umbrella Academy

  • @janetphillips2875
    @janetphillips2875 2 года назад

    Not many people turned out to see the President?
    There were thousands.

  • @tashvadj4914
    @tashvadj4914 2 года назад +2

    Oswald did not shoot from the book depository.

  • @tommysimmonsjr
    @tommysimmonsjr 2 года назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @spudwas
    @spudwas Год назад +1

    Probably the James Franco mini series "November 22, 1963."

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +1

      It was The Umbrella Academy

  • @kevinkavanaugh946
    @kevinkavanaugh946 2 года назад

    Dope, there were hundreds of thousands of people. The day before they changed the parade route and kept people from Dealy Plaza.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      Parade route was never changed.

  • @stevenlindsay7268
    @stevenlindsay7268 Год назад +1

    Nice video tour. I visited the area last year, and most people don't realize how small and close Dealy Plaza is. Abraham Zapruda was very close to the picket fence, and he stated he couldn't tell where the shots came from. There were people standing on the steps in front of the picket fence on the grassy knoll and didn't have a reaction to a shot from behind them. I can't believe that someone fired a shot from the grassy knoll and got away clean.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +3

      I happen to agree with you. But, until we get that blasted time machine, we'll never know for sure.

  • @robertadams6184
    @robertadams6184 Год назад +2

    Ghostsfromthepast

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  Год назад +1

      Ghosts could tell us a thing or two

  • @Miyagi92
    @Miyagi92 3 года назад +1

    Cool vid man did u ever find out what movie it was an ye ozwald did it jus look at the distance from that X to the window easy target for any sniper an bullet to travel

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      Yes it was for The Umbrella Academy TV show. As for the shooter, I agree with you. While it’s more interesting for people to have a mysterious conspiracy, the simple truth appears to be one guy doing an evil deed that was, as you said, not particularly difficult for an experienced marksman.

    • @Miyagi92
      @Miyagi92 3 года назад +1

      @@AverageMe yeh man I agree ya don't shoot a cop for askn who u are unless your a seriously wanted man, I subbed ya please return if u want thank u

  • @Bbendfender
    @Bbendfender Год назад +1

    Good video.

  • @jackwright1921
    @jackwright1921 3 года назад +2

    Dealey plaza is very small place

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      Yes. And a rather easy shot for a marksman

  • @AaronPaterson-kl7zv
    @AaronPaterson-kl7zv Год назад +2

    good commentary average me, except on thing the man you mention on the Triple Underpass was Sam 'skinny' Holland who saw the puff of smoke rise up through the branches.
    New York attorney, Mark Lane went to Dallas to interview many witnesses, a lot who were not called but had their testimony or affidavits reworded by FBI agents.
    what we have is statements like "my name is, address, I saw this that whatever" and then there are the FBI reports with their re-edited versions such as "Witness ......? Saw this but was mistaken and cannot positively identify this, that or whatever!"
    MARK LANE asked Sam Holland to stand where he saw the puff of smoke rising from, he is basically standing behind the fence which has a tree in front of it, Mark Lane photographed Holland with Lane standing in Mary Moorman's location when she took her famous photo, and guess what?
    In both photos, Moorman's ZOOMED IN PHOTO has a black figure standing exactly where SM HOLLAND is standing behind the picket fence!
    what does this tell us? SM HOLLAND wasn't lying, nothing was playing tricks on his eyes and 3-4 other railway men saw exactly what Holland saw

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Mark Lane's record:
      - disgusted interview subjects by twisting their words
      - described by Charles Brehm as "a despicable liar"
      - soundly condemned by two commissions for misleading them with conspiracy theories he wouldn't back up with evidence
      - described by John Connally as "evil"
      - his books are packed with demonstrable fabrications
      - don't miss Bob Katz's Mother Jones expose "Mark Lane - The Left's Leading Hearse Chaser"

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      Victims' reactions in the Zapruder film clearly demonstrate they were hit by the same bullet, and ergo from behind.
      Kennedy's massive exit wound at the right temple is only consistent with a shot from behind.
      No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle.

    • @fobrien1
      @fobrien1 Год назад

      "Victims' reactions in the Zapruder film clearly demonstrate they were hit by the same bullet, and ergo from behind" @@aaronz7056
      there was a 1.5 second difference in visible reactions . the warren commission knew this and admitted it .jfk is seen CLEARLY already hit and already has raised both arms up to chin level with both fists balled in pain . connally had not yet reacted .the commission tried to ignore this . they tried also to see if the medical witnesses would help them get around this problem . they asked dr shaw who operated on connally if he (connally) could have suffered the wounds he had but had a DELAYED REACTION . meaning they hoped shaw would say YES ITS POSSIBLE . however shaw said NO , WITH THE SEVERE WOUNDS HE HAD HE COULD NOT HAVE HAD A DELAYED REACTION . the commission further added that (not verbatim) TO SAY ONE BULLET DID NOT CAUSE 7 WOUNDS TO BOTH ME IS TANTAMOUNT TO SAYING THERE WAS A SECOND SHOOTER AND THUS A CONSPIRACY .they were never going to do that .
      but just to be clear here by the time jfks arms reached chin level any exiting bullet would have to have already have left his body several seconds before that reaction .meaning such a bullet would already have slammed into connally before jfks reaction .yet jfk is seen in zapruder emerging from behind the sign already hit , arms raised to chin height and connally is seen in front sat faced forward motionless .so to say zapruder clearly demonstrates that both men were hit by the same bullet at the same time is false .
      "No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle"
      this is a ridiculous comment that lone nutters often make . and at the least it is inaccurate . there were plenty of fragments that COULD NOT BE TESTED , they were too small .so none of them can be shown to have ONLY come from the rifle in evidence . in addition they used NAA (neutron activation analysis ) testing , and on that basis they said all fragments came from one batch of bullets used in the carcano . it is now acknowledged that that NAA test was SEVERELY FLAWED and inaccurate .
      oh and if you dont find bullets or fragments you then cant say what weapon fired them . the shot that hit the curb and caused an injury to jim tague was never found .the bullet that was seen striking down by the manhole cover causing concrete and dust to fly up was never found .and the hesters saw a fresh furrow in the grass and they spoke with a cop there who said a bullet (or a fragment ) had entered the grass and caused the fresh furrow .then there is the shot that missed and struck the street behind the limo causing sparks to fly up .but even if you take away the evidence of other shots that i mentioned above your claim would still be wrong .

    • @fobrien1
      @fobrien1 Год назад

      "Mark Lane's record:
      - disgusted interview subjects by twisting their words
      - described by Charles Brehm as "a despicable liar"
      - soundly condemned by two commissions for misleading them with conspiracy theories he wouldn't back up with evidence
      - described by John Connally as "evil"
      - his books are packed with demonstrable fabrications
      - don't miss Bob Katz's Mother Jones expose "Mark Lane - The Left's Leading Hearse Chaser"@@aaronz7056
      wow two official commissions who sealed away evidence and testimonies that seriously damaged their claims . that distorted , twisted , omitted , deceived and lied DID NOT LIKE MARK LANE a so called conspiracy theorist who made their lives very difficult ? . wow im stunned , i gotta lay down , lol lol lol .
      john connally towed the official line , for him to say that anything lane said had any merit would be tantamount to hm (connally ) going against the official version of events .
      lane filmed interviews with witnesses . these interviews can be seen right here on youtube THEIR OWN WORDS .you cant argue with that Aaron . i mean you can disagree with them , choose to ignore them etc , but you cant say they are lanes words . what lane himself said in his book is his interpretation of the brehm interview .
      just for the benefit of the readers here .lane based not just on what brehm said but what multiples of witnesses said and saw quite reasonably believed atleast one shot came from in front .witnesses saw smoke under the trees at the knoll . witnesses reported hearing a shot from there . there was reports of a smell of gunpowder down that end of the street when a very strong wind blew up it . yes brehms belief based on what he heard was that the shots came from behind . HOWEVER his statement HIS OWN WORDS were that he watched a piece of jfks head fly rearward and leftward and landed by the curb where he stood . brehm was conservatively a minimal of 20 feet BEHIND jfk when the head shot struck .we are told by lone nutters consistently that the shots came from behind , all blood , bone and brain matter flew only FORWARDS and upwards . yet brehms statement contradicts that and it contradicts his own belief . i have said many times , had i interviewed brehm i would have said
      OK MR BREHM YOUR BELIEF IS THAT ALL SHOTS CAME FROM THE REAR . BUT GIVEN THAT YOU WERE A WAR VET AND WELL EXPERIENCED WITH WEAPONS , CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US JUST HOW YOUR BELIEF CAN EXPLAIN YOUR SEEING A CHUNK OF JFKS HEAD FLY REARWARD AND LEFTWARD A MINIMAL OF 20 FEET FROM A SHOT YOU BELIEVE ENTERED THE BACK OF THE HEAD AND EXITED IN THE RIGHT FRONT . i think it would be a fair question to ask . actually i am surprised that lane didnt ask it .

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@fobrien1 A) Within 1-2 frames of Kennedy getting hit, Connally's lapel pops out, his hat flips up and his expression violently contorts between frames from the blow. One bullet.
      B) View of the entry wound on Connally's back would have been completely blocked by Kennedy's body, the bullet has to have gone through him first.
      C) You know full well Kennedy doesn't start raising his arms up until after he comes into view from behind the sign.
      D) Victims' wounds line up on a perfect trajectory.
      E) There were only 3 shots, most witnesses plainly heard 3 shots.
      F) Witnesses under the sixth floor window said the shots all came from directly overhead.
      G) Let me get this straight: the bullet would have left his body "several seconds" before that reaction.
      H) No evidence of any second shooter was ever found inside any of those buildings.
      Where the heck are you even going with this? lol

  • @juliocampos9218
    @juliocampos9218 3 года назад +1

    please study the left hand of the driver, he is who shot.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      You’re saying the driver of the Presidential limousine fired the fatal shot?

    • @roberthussey595
      @roberthussey595 2 года назад

      If you were to look at the position of Jackie when the headshot happened....she would be in the way... there noses were almost touching...How could the driver do it with Jackie Kennedy in the way....If the driver was the shooter, how does Bobby Hargis get blood and brain matter on him..he was at the rear bumper on the left side of the limousine??

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 2 года назад

      That's right, Agent Greer, surrounded by witnesses and at least two people with cameras, turned around with five people facing him in the limo only inches away, pulled a gun and shot JFK in the face in broad daylight....lol

  • @stevegardenhire5698
    @stevegardenhire5698 3 года назад +4

    GHWB

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  3 года назад +1

      I've heard that one before. I am pretty sure it was a lone gunman

    • @stevegardenhire5698
      @stevegardenhire5698 3 года назад +3

      @@AverageMe do me a favor a check out all the witnesses who died under strange circumstances. Not all the witnesses who were never called before the Warren commission. Look who was on the commission. Ive studied this since 1980 . Check into the Tippet shooting and tell me the Dallas PD wasnt in on this. Look up Dorothy Kellgallen who interviewed Ruby then died . Lots to learn. And why is it still top secret? Why did the Smithsonian Institute lose JFK's brain I've been researching one of the aleutians why did ghwb say he wasn't in Dallas on November 22nd when they got pictures of him there?

    • @jenniferw4068
      @jenniferw4068 3 года назад +1

      @@stevegardenhire5698 GHWB the CIA Mossad and pro assassins in on it. They did a HORRIBLE job of clean up and left many trails. A planned conspiracy and LHO had been US INTELLIGENCE since the 1950s.

    • @jenniferw4068
      @jenniferw4068 3 года назад +1

      @@AverageMe YOU HEART YOUR OWN COMMENT? LAME.

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад

      @@jenniferw4068 If I read it, I heart it. It's more about feeding that RUclips algorithm than anything.

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 2 года назад +2

    the sound of the rifle fire was so loud, yet not one person in the original Dave Wiegman film footage of the that day nov 22 / 1963 which was filmed during the shooting of jfk, you can see all the people out the front of the TSBD BLD entrance, yet not one is looking back behind themselves at all, yet they are all less than 60 ft away from a rifle being fired ,which is to say its impossible to not hear the rifle, when you compare the hulu project rifle blanks, which in fact are just as load as the real rifle being fired?
    Plus why did the wc layers not include the ladies who were on the 5th floor running down the stairs after the shooting and not see lee running down the stairs to get out of the bld, plus why the african american witness on the 5th floor looking out only said they herd the empty hulls hitting the roof above them, also mentioning that the dust was hitting them on their heads, and they had their heads out of the window looking at the parade and the wind was blowing directly at their faces ?

    • @AverageMe
      @AverageMe  2 года назад +1

      Having not heard an actual rifle fire from the SBD I can't say for sure, but it's my understanding that there can be a lot of confusion due to things like echo in the area, as well as the shock of seeing a man murdered.

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад +1

      Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots came from directly overhead.
      No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle.

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 Год назад

      @@aaronz7056 yet FBI checked finger print issues and found that no part of the rifle was checked for prints no residue was left over from the dallas tests, yet lt day found a smudged parm print only after lee's death? Come on mate think about it, they needed lee to be the shooter its that simple and any one in the world who has done any shooting will tell you that rifle is so bad for accuracy that even if the rifle was used you would need to know how far the scope was off c3ntre of the crossair, which was i think at least 1 cm to the left and about 2cm downwards, so that is so bad using the scope that you would miss the car completely unless you compensated for the error in accuracy
      So basically for every mm of movement in the scope is about 1cm of movement of the projectile at 25 meters?
      So think of how much error is at 100 meters or more?
      You would have to hold over the top of the car at least 3ft and about 1 ft to the right to aim just to hit the car down elm st?

    • @aaronz7056
      @aaronz7056 Год назад

      @@7071t6 What did I literally just say? No bullets or fragments were ever found that didn't match to Oswald's rifle.
      The shooting was successfully recreated by investigators using that rifle and as a matter of fact 3 shots over 8-9 seconds with several seconds between each (as victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate) at a target a maximum of 88 yards away is hardly a superhuman feat.
      Oswald scored 18 out of 20 in rapid fire at targets 200 yards away in the Marines.
      Oswald owned and smuggled the gun.
      A man was seen in the window who could plausibly have been Oswald.
      Witnesses under that window said the shots all came from directly overhead.
      No unidentified persons were ever caught inside the building.
      Autopsy shows the shots came from behind and when Parkland doctors looked at the autopsy photos they had no particular problem with them.
      Oswald was the one and only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee the plaza.
      Oswald lied to police and refused to cooperate.
      Oswald refused help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association pending learning whether he could get his first choice, a lawyer he'd never met living in another state who specialized in left-wing causes.
      Oswald acted so smug and placid when his brother visited him in jail he even convinced him he was guilty.
      Asked on live TV if he shot Kennedy, Oswald makes no attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy and instead just shrugs a hollow, rambling reply that all but dodges the question.

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 Год назад

      @@aaronz7056 omg i have found a lone nut believer, well i will say this, if the ARRB got it so wrong with the evidence they have found, then the WC or should i say the house investigations would have not sealed the autopsy witness and what they witnessed, like the large exit wound in jfk's occipital area and not the right top temple are as seen in the altered z film, plus the altered x rays and autopsy photos proven that the film they are on are not the film stock used by stringer and reeby, so i say again, you can stick to the lone nut single shooter, but if a scope which is so badly misaligned can aim and shot to hit a 20 cm target at 88 yards then show me one expert sniper that has replicated that feat with the same rifle with ww2 ammo and also with the misaligned scope which the fbi had to put metal shims under the scope just to make it shoot straight?
      Also the current ballistic evidence has no chain of custody so you cant even put the rifle or the ammo that the government is saying was used in the murder of jfk full stop?
      also other chain of custody issues are all so wrong that if lee was taken into custody and the current evidence by the prosecution was used it would not be admissible in court at all due to the chain of custody issues for the evidence collected that day?
      Heres a link with ex police sniper telling it like it is in regards to the rile?
      ruclips.net/video/PGmrbMEGEPc/видео.html watch it from the start for about 30 minutes and then tell me how on earth did anyone even use that rile at all?