The entire trial was a sham. Dr. Mudd was lucky to serve only four years before he was released. But he shouldn’t have lied about not knowing who he treated.
@@jamesparker1673 Why? Because you don't like him? Biden is an habitual serial liar and him and his entire family are corrupt but you don't seem to have a problem with that.
In 1961 when I was in 4th grade we studied the Civil War & had to memorize the Gettysburg address & recite it before the class individually. We also learned the songs of that time period. That summer I went to visit some relatives who lived in Virginia & saw an old plantation & the main house & slaves quarters. History came alive for me that year. So grateful that our history truly shows so many that stood up against evil & fought for freedom for so many. If we do not learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat it. True history is so important. It should make us grateful. That’s why so many people are trying to come here.
The war was not really about slavery, it was primarily about states rights and the imposition of a tax on imported goods in the South, in an effort to make them buy those goods fron factories in the North. The Corwin amendment instituted a month before the war, offered the chance for the South to keep slavery amongst other concessions.
@@chavbudgie4299Oh ok Nikki. Read some of Lincoln's personal letters and you will see his feelings on this issue. It wasn't state rights. In his view, it was human rights issue. www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/slavery.htm#:~:text=Those%20who%20deny%20freedom%20to,can%20not%20long%20retain%20it.&text=I%20think%20Slavery%20is%20wrong,terminate%20in%20the%20whole%20Union.
It's amazing you never could disappear. Powers like Britain or France found mutineers and pirates decades later. People fled crimes in Europe but later noticed in the wild west with consequences. Go back to the Romans & long before, fugitives get found. Crimes can catch up when you think you got away with them long ago. Too late to query Whitey Bolger, but there's still some time to ask that Traitor Trump.
once a government places a bounty on your head - regardless of the era... you're a dead man. In ancient Rome, the Senate would issue a list of names called proscriptions. Whomever was killed on that list, the killer received ten percent of the dead persons' entire wealth. Nothing terrified the Roman elite more than being placed on a proscription. There would not be any place on earth they could run to and not be killed. Depending how rich the person was their own family would turn them in for the bounty.
@@josebarajas5368can't remember his name but one of them made it to the vatican and was hid as a vatican guard. He was found out. Just like now the whole earth was covered with spies and informers in and out of government's, business and most important the roman catholic church that circled the globe and with the little confessional booths the church was a vacuum for information. Some was misinformation just like know. minus the computer. their world wide web was finely honed. Diplomatic relations with the Vatican ended for over 100 years, until President Reagan restored it, for their involvement in the Lincoln murder.
My earliest recollection of a family trip was to Springfield, IL to see Lincoln's home. I was four years old and barely remember the trip, but I bought a tiny toy log cabin that I kept for years until letting it go to be part of a sale to benefit an animal shelter where I lived overseas. I remember I was in awe of Lincoln at the time. My parents said I called him "Winkle." I just knew he was a great man. One of my earliest memories. And a good one, too.
While I was in the Army, we had a class on military tribunals. This was a case that was brought up in the discussion. The main reason that they were tried by tribunal is that since the North was still at war with the South, and Lincoln was the President, and those who committed the crime were Southern sympathizers it was viewed as a war crime or as an action by the enemy to Decapitate the leadership of the United States. Now, military courts are different from civilian courts. In the military you are guilty until proven innocent, thus the burden of proof is on the defense and not the government.
Only one of the charged conspirators had actually been in the Confederate Army and even then he had been discharged from the army. By any standards it was a kangaroo court.
@@Tank4Life The conclusion of the American Civil War commenced with the articles of surrender agreement of the Army of Northern Virginia on April 9, at Appomattox Court House, by General Robert E. Lee and concluded with the surrender of the CSS Shenandoah on November 6, 1865, bringing the hostilities of the American Civil War to a close, seven months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered. Legally, the war did not end until a proclamation by President Andrew Johnson on August 20, 1866. President Abraham Lincoln was shot on the evening of April 14, 1865. The last battle of the American Civil War was fought at Palmito Ranch, Texas on May 12-13, 1865, considered the final land battle of the conflict.
I have read that Mary Surratt may have been arrested and sentenced in an attempt to flush her son John out from hiding, on the premise that he'd turn himself in to save her...but no.
I really do believe that she was guilty only by association, and she wasn’t given a fair trial. She was executed as a scapegoat, by a tribunal only out for blood.
@Smoggington Read the trial transcripts. I have never met a single person that believed she deserved to die after reading them. She was not given any real due process, nor was she allowed to truly defend herself.
@@aerofool66 A scapegoat, how much researching did you put in to come to this conclusion? I highly recommend you look into TM Harris, he was a General that was there on that Tribunal and later, wrote a book. The government didn't want another civil war on their hands, as this one would be fought over religion. It was of accident that church helped John Surratt in his escape.
I can see slight parallels between this trial and the Cataline conspiracy under Cicero especially with how the public viewed the trial after it was finished
Still fascinates me to this day.I remember Mrs Surratt saying 'Ger the shooting irons ready. " in another documentary, and they said that statement she said sealed her fate.
It's perfectly understandable that you would learn about your nation's history primarily. Most Americans have no idea what Canada Day is, what is the Canadian version of Thanksgiving, or that you all changed your flag to the Maple Leaf in 1965.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 It's perfectly understandable that you would learn about your nations history primarily. We largely don't know what were the War of the Roses, the English Civil War. Who was Oliver Cromwell or what were the policies of the Benjamin Disraeli government.😁
He eventually had his sentence commutated for his actions in stopping a typhoid epidemic on the prison island where he was imprisoned. He was released and died from fever at age 60.
This is why history is so important and why it must be preserved regardless of how it makes people feel, i was never taught this when I was in school growing up, as African-American born and raised in the south they barely ever talked about the civil war when I was in school they made sure to skim over it and rush through it because they didn't want to make anybody uncomfortable and that was over 15 plus years ago, I don't even think they talk much about history today with the kids especially the civil war unless they're trying to demonize all white people which isn't right, in my opinion and this might sound bias but I personally believe had they kill any other president I would have been all for them going to a civilian Court, but since they killed Lincoln in my opinion are greatest president ever and knowing that if he had lived I believe African Americans back then life for them would have been a little bit easier Lincoln would have shut down the clan quickly he would never allow Jim Crow laws he never would have allowed what happened at wounded knee and everything else that followed, with all that said I have no problem with the conspirators being sent before the tribunal.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. It was all pushed through so fast and the subsequent attempt to appease the South to allow for reconstruction etc... all makes it very suspicious
I admire you embrace real history but Lincoln was no saint he wanted to ship the negroes back to liberia but they refused to want them so they became the USA burden . If the peaceful native American farmers couldve did to the white USA nation what they did to the other tribes with rape , slavery , torture and genocide they would of ! Alls they did was lose just like all other nations . Hope you still enjoy real documented history, Garryowen
Lincoln really never had much Love for African Americans, told Frederick Douglas that should ALL Be sent back to Africa and couldn't Live Equally with Whites, by today's Standards, was EXTREMELY Racist!! Emancipation Proclomation was purely Political to keep Britian and France from Recognizing and Helping Confederacy, know isn't Politically Correct to point this out, but the Truth is the Truth!!
@@larrybaldwin8325 thanks for trying to spread the word on real history but sadly many cant comprehend it or those times . I can only imagine how wonderful this country still would be . Garryowen
I lived in the town Clinton in Maryland in the mid 1960s as a child. We used to pass the Surratt house all the time when we rode around town. It was fully restored in 1975 I believe and turned into a museum.
Federal soldiers visited the Surratt boarding house again late on the evening of April 17.[118][123][124] John Jr. could not be found, but after a search of the house, the agents found in Mary's room a picture of Booth, hidden behind another photograph, pictures of Confederate leaders including Jefferson Davis, a pistol, a mold for making bullets, and percussion caps.[120][123][125] As Mary was being arrested for conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln, Powell appeared at her door in disguise.[126][127][128] Although Surratt denied knowing him,[92][127][129] Powell claimed that he was a laborer hired by Surratt to dig a ditch the next morning. The discrepancy and Powell's remarkably well-dressed and -groomed appearance, quite unlike a ditch-digger, prompted his arrest.[92][127][129] He was later identified as the man who had attempted to assassinate Secretary of State William Seward.[126] On April 11, Mary Surratt rented a carriage and drove to the Surratt tavern.[101] She said that she made the trip to collect a debt owed her by a former neighbor.[101] However, according to her tenant, John Lloyd, Surratt told him to get the "shooting irons" ready to be picked up.[88][102] On April 14, Surratt said that she would once again visit the family tavern in Surrattsville to collect a debt.[88][103] Shortly before she left the city, Booth visited the boarding house and spoke privately with her.[88][104][105] He gave her a package, later found to contain binoculars, for Lloyd to pick up later that evening.[88][104][105] Surratt did so and, according to Lloyd, again told Lloyd to have the "shooting irons" ready for pickup and handed him a wrapped package from Booth.[88][99][106][107]
1:38, what do you mean that " on the 1st of May 1865 Vice President Johnson ordered the trial " ? He was no longer Vice President- he had been US President for two weeks by then, since April 15th.
I have two great great uncles, Benjamin and Enoch Ellis who were a part of Lincoln's bodyguard detail. An interesting thing happened years ago when my brother and I were still in high school. He dated a girl who's last name is Surratt. My dad, who is a scholar with genealogy, traced her heritage back to Mary Surratt. We marveled at the coincidence of this occurrence which took place in Southeast Kansas. I mean, what are the odds?
@@Tank4LifeDamn, if I was going to make something up, I certainly could have dreamed up a story more action packed. You should reconsider the odds of families being related across statelines along certain routes down from Pennsylvania, through Illinois and Indiana, Missouri, Kansas. Odds are quite good in fact.
One of the relatively unknown facts about the Lincoln Conspiracy Trial, and was something that the War Department went to great lengths to cover up, is that Hugh Louis Paine and Lewis Thornton Powell were separate individuals. Hugh Louis Paine was on of the four condemned, and was executed instead of his third cousin, Lewis Thornton Powell. The Prosecutors, and Lafayette Baker[Chief of the War Bureau of Detectives]were quite aware that Paine was innocent, but as long as he was willing to be hung in his cousin's place, they were comfortable with that.
The worst perpetrators of Lincoln's murder got away scott free. Only a few of the "trigger men" got prosecuted. The masterminds of the assassination were never punished as they had diplomatic immunity. This is why the US cut off all diplomatic relations with the Vatican in Rome only to be restored by Ronald Reagan in 1982.
@smoggington1240 Totally don't disagree with you, but wet clothes get "hung," people get "hanged." (Not that that happens anymore in America; the last person to be hanged was in Delaware in the 90's. I've been to where the gallows where old Billy Bailey was hanged a few times. There wasn't enough employee parking so they made us park next to the old supermax where Billy was hanged. That place was super creepy...)
It was said that on Execution Day, troops caught five young boys that sneaked their way into the military compound via a section of crumbling wall in a basement service area... When asked, the kids answered, _"We just come here to see the hungin's, that's all!"_ Their efforts were not rewarded, as each one was personally escorted back to their homes, and to their parents, whom were not at all pleased with their antics!
Man could you imagine if they brought this back for all the lying politicians we have, can you imagine how much they would turn the table right now because if they don't they will get the rope? Please bring it back.
@@laurapeter3857 that would have amounted to a miscarriage of justice. The new President was previously the Vice-President to Lincoln before his assassination, hence he would not be eager to grant clemency to the accused.
In my opinion, justice was served with the exception of John Surrat. Military courts only consider facts, and that’s the way all courts should be. It’s so easy to look at this with today’s weak mindset and think it was harsh. Think of what the people then had been through. I can only speculate that an overwhelming majority of the citizens alive then were for exacting swift justice and closing the book on the conspirators and the Civil War, and I don’t blame them. People are so soft today, they would not be capable of enduring all the things that the people in the 19th century did. You had to be strong to survive and that is sorely missing from our world today. Peace is achieved only through strength and that applies both individually as well as universally.
If by soft you mean ensuring that we don't put innocent people to death, sure, then we're soft. Thankfully we have a much HIGHER standard of law and justice. Even now it is far from perfect and we still need more work but the "good ole days" consisted of a lot of innocent people dying due to BS witness testimony and a lack of protective legislature. If someone's guilty, so be it but what this man said is true. There was NO connection found between these people and a conspiratorial governing group. Therefore it was extremely unjust to have them IN a military court. How you can call some of the shady "witness" testimony as "facts" is beyond me. "I can only speculate that an overwhelming majority of the citizens alive then were for exacting swift justice and closing the book on the conspirators and the Civil War, and I don’t blame them." A RUSH to justice is NEVER actual justice. And that should mean something as an American. Even the doctor who treated Booth was prosecuted and sentence to life in prison. A guy who very likely had NO idea who Booth was. That's justice? Thankfully he didn't serve life but damn, you want those days back? I DO agree we haven't had to live a lot of the horrible events and situations people from the past did, but in some ways we have greatly improved as a society. Let's just be grateful for what we have now and hope it doesn't take another civil war or more atrocities to "toughen" us up.
@@DeepStateDismantlerInfinity Fair enough. Definite good points made by the presenter that show Mudd was likely not just an innocent party in it. It still doesn't invalidate the rest of my comment but thanks for sharing. Interesting watch! Edited to add, at around 26 minutes in he erroneously states that Lincoln was in a coma for 2 or 3 days which most of us know is not true. He was shot the evening of April 14th and died that following morning. Other than that the guy seems to know his stuff about Mudd.
What is the point in questioning the legality of a trial that took place after a horrendous civil war, and the murder of Lincoln. An exercise in non-sense.
Ive study the Lincoln association my whole life. I ran the Booth reenactment tour that follows his excat trail he followed that night. I volunteered at Dr. Mudds home in Charles County Maryland. Booth thought he would inspire the south to keep fighting. When he learned a few days after that his actions were condemned even in the south, he was furious and filled with anger. Theres a lot of details you left out and really should have covered the assassination in more detail.
This video isn't ABOUT the assassination; it's about the trial of the conspirators. They have a separate vid on the assassination. Also, this vid is only 17-1/2 minutes long. They have to leave things out! There are TONS of videos about the Lincoln Assassination, but far less is known about the conspiracy and the plan to assassinate the other 2 men, basically decapitating the U.S. government and even less is known about the fate of the conspirators, except for Booth. So people can learn different details from LONGER, more in-depth, and more comprehensive documentaries and the many history channels (including animated channels) on YT. It's unrealistic to expect a 17-minute video to cover everything.
Booth, in his ignorance, thought he would become a hero to the South by a cowardly act of shooting an unsuspecting, unarmed man in the form of President Lincoln in the back. I believe the South would never honor such a coward to represent them by such an act. Those who listen to and followed a foolish individual as such should've known better. Southerners were depending on Mr. Lincoln in his plans for reconstruction to get them back on their feet and a full recovery. But Booth spoiled all that with his selfish ambitions to become a hero.
The physician who treated Wilkes Booth was incarcerated for life. We, physicians, can't deny anyone medical assistance. His incarceration was so unfair that it still makes me angry 💢😡
I agree, he likely didn't have anything to do with it other than be the unfortunate guy who treated Booth, but due to the case being in a military court they hammered him. In a civilian court he would likely have been released
He lied about which directon Booth and Herold went in when they left his house. He also had known Booth in 1864 when they were planning the kidnapping of Lincoln.
He was released after two years for good behavior AND that he had helped to assist in treating prisoners because of some virus that had been going around at the time
There are thousands of pages of history written by authors of this time (1847-1878) testifying of not only the guilt of those on trial but of many others who were immune to prosecution who were more guilty that the Surratts and their fellows. This history was factual in the late 1800s and early 1900s, but now has been turned into "conspiracy theory" or just simply marginalized unto oblivion. The unclassified gov't. docs and the books written by military and civilian authors still exist today, but they are rare and for the most part can only be found in the library of congress. So, hardly anyone knows their history today. The bottom line is that the the Lincoln Admin. and some military generals knew exactly who was responsible and they were outraged as to what happened to their commander in chief and loyal friend. Only by military tribunal would they achieve justice as they knew they were up against a most formidable opponent; a religio political institution of the greatest intellectual capabilities. The US justice system at that time wanted to make a statement to the foreign conspirators that they will severely punish any US citizen that would cooperate with them in such horrific schemes. Unfortunately, the US government had no realistic recourse to prosecute those outside its national jurisdiction as well as lacking evidence because the cover up was so well orchestrated. The global institution that assassinated Lincoln is now much more powerful and is in almost total control of US government. They are the same that took down JFK as well. JFKs famous speech after his inauguration and the concern of a major portion of the US public of him being a Roman Catholic made it very clear to me, among many other things, as to who was responsible for his assassination.
@Smoggington that could be said of anyone n everyone that even conceived an evil thought, as Jesus said: "A man who conceived the idea of adultery has already commited it." Thus we are ALL guilty without judgement!!! How bout that Smogginton.....??
@Smoggington Nothing to do with it, why not?? And remember, it's always different fella when 'the shoes on the other foot'.......my last comment, good luck!
The announcer said "On the 1st of May, 1865, Vice President Johnson..." Immediately upon Lincoln's death, Johnson became the president. The conspirators received exactly what they deserved, including Mary Surratt.
Yes, indeed. But many of them got away as no one knew who they were and found refuge in their homeland, Rome Italy. Only the trigger man and the front conspirators took the fall. It's also a possibility that Booth actually got away as the man they shot and killed they said was Booth did not match his description. Forensic specialists have never been allowed to verify the body of Booth even though up to this day there are some still petitioning for that right to put an end to the question.
Where are you from?? You have an interesting, and unknown to me, accent. You don't sound American, Canadien, or Australian to me. Or Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Yorkshire, Liverpudlian, or Cockney. Where in the English speaking world do you come from?????
You couldn't find another narrator? This guy sounds like a character from Ferris Bueller's day off. (ruclips.net/video/595lVRKMiDs/видео.htmlsi=nyB6KmNjeY4L-03f)
I would just say to check his record. He suspended habeas corpus, declared an illegal war; all of those things an overreach of power. He wiped his ass with the tenth amendment, all because slavery didn't make financial sense, and not any kind of moral or ethical reasoning. He also was against paying people for their property which is why eminent domain got created by him. It just amazes me that adolf lincler and FDR are the top presidents. I want to know what they are smoking.
fair enough Stanton was out for blood he may have had his issues with Lincoln but he would get justice for his commander in chief and I'm sure all of Lincoln's cabinet was clamouring for justice
Stanton was a traitor and part of the plot and was simply getting rid of as many potential loose lips that he could. When it was discovered that John Surratt was spotted in England Stanton immediately cancelled the reward out on him. another purpose of the trial was to keep the role of the Vatican and Pope Pious IX from being addressed. He is actually the one who ordered the assassination in the first place. He called Jefferson Davis his favorite son and they communicated often. From England, John Surratt then went to Rome and was eventually found living just outside of Rome in the army of the Pope. He was ordered arrested, but somehow escaped, wink wink, and would later be found in Alexandria Egypt and brought back to America to stand trial where the Catholic and Jesuit priests, and Freemasons of coarse circled their wagons and loaded the jury with people who would never find him guilty, and he walked free. BTW, Mary Surratt's boarding house was a known meeting place for Catholic and Jesuit Priests, something that was never brought out in the trial. The actual truth would make you sick.
Why do Brits and Ozzie's always post their views on American history you have NO VOICE in American REPUBLIC talk about your own countries to your own people
haha in these times the trials wouldn't be over for a decade and appeals would take another while the insurrectionists in congress would keep trying to derail it. [wow even back then stanton was concerned about a drawn out appeals process... 🙂at some point due process becomes justice delayed is justice denied but where does it shift?]
Of course there is no right answer, as it is in scholarly pursuits sometimes, but who could give a more definitive answer? And should they have been trialled in military court? Wouldn't the precedent of civilians being trialled in military court be enough to determine whether they should have been tried by court marshal? And that the crime was of National Significance, and a crime against the Commander in Chief, means it can also be taken into military jurisdiction? After all, The Lieber Code which Lincoln introduced into law does make reference to civilians Article 148. It says "The law of war does not allow proclaiming either an individual belonging to the hostile army, or a citizen, or a subject of the hostile government, an outlaw, who may be slain without trial by any captor, any more than the modern law of peace allows such intentional outlawry; on the contrary, it abhors such outrage"... The important part to question here, is "slain without trial by any captor, any more than the modern law of peace allows such intentional outcry". Here, I'd like to consult a legal scholar, in regards to Martial Law and "modern law of peace", that, if the civil courts are suspended, and I'm unaware of any proclamation stating otherwise, doesn't that mean that the military courts have jurisdiction? After all, Habeas Corpus wasn't in effect and the military were given the power to silence dissenters. Love the topic, very interesting.
Indeed. It made sense, but may not have been fair. Also, the interpretation of a modern scholar may be different to one from that era. Possibly one of the reasons they pushed so hard, just in case an appeal etc... was able to force the situation into a civilian court
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Certainly peaked my interests. It's a case they always bring up when talking about non-state actors and terrorism, meaning, Al Qaeda etc., so, it remains hotly debated and is very much alive in the world of law in the United States. Came up just a few years ago, at least publicly I mean.
If nothing else they could have been tried for treason as it was evident that the conspiracy was going on long before the war was over. And treason is punishable by death.
Tried in a military court??? Why were they tried n convicted at all?? John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln, and he paid the price (died).......these defendants were 'scape goats' n nothing more.........!!
@@johnhummer265 They were fully part of the conspiracy. I don't see why they weren't all treated as such. I'm largely a realist in this sense - punish people to the full extend of the law.
First of all the guy sounds a little weird in the way he talks but as far as him being guilty there's overwhelming evidence against them I hate it when these jerks try to make something into a conspiracy that is not and problem with Mary was she lied when she was question when they were searching for these guys that got her in serious trouble no one knew for sure if she was part of a conspiracy or not but she definitely tried to hide them we know one thing someone killed him they know who did it there's no doubt about it and they found the connection and the evidence is there I believe these were the only four that was involved had they been found guilty by civilian court they still would have got hung with the possible exception of Mary but you never know back then they didn't play around yeah I hate people try to create conspiracies that are not there like this commentator just to make a story more interesting
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The entire trial was a sham. Dr. Mudd was lucky to serve only four years before he was released. But he shouldn’t have lied about not knowing who he treated.
Trump an the other's in his inner circle should get the same thing!
@@jamesparker1673 Why? Because you don't like him? Biden is an habitual serial liar and him and his entire family are corrupt but you don't seem to have a problem with that.
@@davidwebb8217stop lying. Who’s the CONVICTED FELON?
@@thegreatselkie6009 What was he convicted of stupid?
In 1961 when I was in 4th grade we studied the Civil War & had to memorize the Gettysburg address & recite it before the class individually. We also learned the songs of that time period. That summer I went to visit some relatives who lived in Virginia & saw an old plantation & the main house & slaves quarters. History came alive for me that year. So grateful that our history truly shows so many that stood up against evil & fought for freedom for so many. If we do not learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat it. True history is so important. It should make us grateful. That’s why so many people are trying to come here.
People are trying to suppress And change history with tall tales like the Lost Cause theory.
The eye's of TX 😮upon you😅
The war was not really about slavery, it was primarily about states rights and the imposition of a tax on imported goods in the South, in an effort to make them buy those goods fron factories in the North. The Corwin amendment instituted a month before the war, offered the chance for the South to keep slavery amongst other concessions.
@@chavbudgie4299Oh ok Nikki. Read some of Lincoln's personal letters and you will see his feelings on this issue.
It wasn't state rights. In his view, it was human rights issue.
www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/slavery.htm#:~:text=Those%20who%20deny%20freedom%20to,can%20not%20long%20retain%20it.&text=I%20think%20Slavery%20is%20wrong,terminate%20in%20the%20whole%20Union.
@@chavbudgie4299I call BS. The only "States rights" the South was fighting for was the right to keep slaves. 🙄
I don’t understand how people even got caught back then . I feel like you could just move somewhere else and never even be found .
It's amazing you never could disappear. Powers like Britain or France found mutineers and pirates decades later. People fled crimes in Europe but later noticed in the wild west with consequences. Go back to the Romans & long before, fugitives get found.
Crimes can catch up when you think you got away with them long ago. Too late to query Whitey Bolger, but there's still some time to ask that Traitor Trump.
once a government places a bounty on your head - regardless of the era... you're a dead man. In ancient Rome, the Senate would issue a list of names called proscriptions. Whomever was killed on that list, the killer received ten percent of the dead persons' entire wealth. Nothing terrified the Roman elite more than being placed on a proscription. There would not be any place on earth they could run to and not be killed. Depending how rich the person was their own family would turn them in for the bounty.
I always think that too. Maybe some couldn’t flee quick enough without leaving a trace
@@josebarajas5368 can't remember his name but one made it to the vatican and became a vatican guard and was found
@@josebarajas5368can't remember his name but one of them made it to the vatican and was hid as a vatican guard. He was found out. Just like now the whole earth was covered with spies and informers in and out of government's, business and most important the roman catholic church that circled the globe and with the little confessional booths the church was a vacuum for information. Some was misinformation just like know. minus the computer. their world wide web was finely honed. Diplomatic relations with the Vatican ended for over 100 years, until President Reagan restored it, for their involvement in the Lincoln murder.
My earliest recollection of a family trip was to Springfield, IL to see Lincoln's home. I was four years old and barely remember the trip, but I bought a tiny toy log cabin that I kept for years until letting it go to be part of a sale to benefit an animal shelter where I lived overseas. I remember I was in awe of Lincoln at the time. My parents said I called him "Winkle." I just knew he was a great man. One of my earliest memories. And a good one, too.
While I was in the Army, we had a class on military tribunals. This was a case that was brought up in the discussion. The main reason that they were tried by tribunal is that since the North was still at war with the South, and Lincoln was the President, and those who committed the crime were Southern sympathizers it was viewed as a war crime or as an action by the enemy to Decapitate the leadership of the United States. Now, military courts are different from civilian courts. In the military you are guilty until proven innocent, thus the burden of proof is on the defense and not the government.
The war was over.
Only one of the charged conspirators had actually been in the Confederate Army and even then he had been discharged from the army. By any standards it was a kangaroo court.
@@Tank4Life The conclusion of the American Civil War commenced with the articles of surrender agreement of the Army of Northern Virginia on April 9, at Appomattox Court House, by General Robert E. Lee and concluded with the surrender of the CSS Shenandoah on November 6, 1865, bringing the hostilities of the American Civil War to a close, seven months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered.
Legally, the war did not end until a proclamation by President Andrew Johnson on August 20, 1866.
President Abraham Lincoln was shot on the evening of April 14, 1865.
The last battle of the American Civil War was fought at Palmito Ranch, Texas on May 12-13, 1865, considered the final land battle of the conflict.
Amazing video! as always Alex
Cheers!
I have read that Mary Surratt may have been arrested and sentenced in an attempt to flush her son John out from hiding, on the premise that he'd turn himself in to save her...but no.
I really do believe that she was guilty only by association, and she wasn’t given a fair trial. She was executed as a scapegoat, by a tribunal only out for blood.
Mary Surratt..... "That's a wrap!"
@Smoggington Read the trial transcripts. I have never met a single person that believed she deserved to die after reading them. She was not given any real due process, nor was she allowed to truly defend herself.
Lincoln had suspended the"Bill of rights".@@aerofool66
@@aerofool66 A scapegoat, how much researching did you put in to come to this conclusion? I highly recommend you look into TM Harris, he was a General that was there on that Tribunal and later, wrote a book. The government didn't want another civil war on their hands, as this one would be fought over religion. It was of accident that church helped John Surratt in his escape.
I can see slight parallels between this trial and the Cataline conspiracy under Cicero especially with how the public viewed the trial after it was finished
I love hearing your “Michael the Brave” narration.
Still fascinates me to this day.I remember Mrs Surratt saying 'Ger the shooting irons ready. " in another documentary, and they said that statement she said sealed her fate.
Kinda odd that they would have umbrellas out there to protect the condemned from the suns heat. Something right out of Monty Python. Such compassion.
I bet they just didn’t want them to pass out and end up prolonging the process.
Brilliant, as usual. had never even considered there may be conspirators. As a Canadian, we didn't learn about this in school.
Likewise here int he UK. Then again, we learn very little American history other than the slave trade
It's perfectly understandable that you would learn about your nation's history primarily. Most Americans have no idea what Canada Day is, what is the Canadian version of Thanksgiving, or that you all changed your flag to the Maple Leaf in 1965.
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It's perfectly understandable that you would learn about your nations history primarily. We largely don't know what were the War of the Roses, the English Civil War. Who was Oliver Cromwell or what were the policies of the Benjamin Disraeli government.😁
@@arrow1414 Fair point!
@@arrow1414 … but thanks to our mutual love of hockey , we Americans can hum , whistle or sing the Canadian National Anthem “Oh , Canada “ !!!
The saying: Your name is mud, came from the last name of Dr . Samuel Mudd
He eventually had his sentence commutated for his actions in stopping a typhoid epidemic on the prison island where he was imprisoned. He was released and died from fever at age 60.
Actually, that saying was in place before all this happened.
@@nickroberts-xf7oqThanks for inspiring me to research further. Lazy day on my back porch! 😊
This is why history is so important and why it must be preserved regardless of how it makes people feel, i was never taught this when I was in school growing up, as African-American born and raised in the south they barely ever talked about the civil war when I was in school they made sure to skim over it and rush through it because they didn't want to make anybody uncomfortable and that was over 15 plus years ago, I don't even think they talk much about history today with the kids especially the civil war unless they're trying to demonize all white people which isn't right, in my opinion and this might sound bias but I personally believe had they kill any other president I would have been all for them going to a civilian Court, but since they killed Lincoln in my opinion are greatest president ever and knowing that if he had lived I believe African Americans back then life for them would have been a little bit easier Lincoln would have shut down the clan quickly he would never allow Jim Crow laws he never would have allowed what happened at wounded knee and everything else that followed, with all that said I have no problem with the conspirators being sent before the tribunal.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. It was all pushed through so fast and the subsequent attempt to appease the South to allow for reconstruction etc... all makes it very suspicious
I admire you embrace real history but Lincoln was no saint he wanted to ship the negroes back to liberia but they refused to want them so they became the USA burden . If the peaceful native American farmers couldve did to the white USA nation what they did to the other tribes with rape , slavery , torture and genocide they would of ! Alls they did was lose just like all other nations . Hope you still enjoy real documented history, Garryowen
Lincoln really never had much Love for African Americans, told Frederick Douglas that should ALL Be sent back to Africa and couldn't Live Equally with Whites, by today's Standards, was EXTREMELY Racist!! Emancipation Proclomation was purely Political to keep Britian and France from Recognizing and Helping Confederacy, know isn't Politically Correct to point this out, but the Truth is the Truth!!
@@larrybaldwin8325 thanks for trying to spread the word on real history but sadly many cant comprehend it or those times . I can only imagine how wonderful this country still would be . Garryowen
Lincoln allowed the Dakota 38 @ Mankato MN
You referred to Johnson as vice president when he ordered the military would conduct the trial. He was president in May 1865.
President Lincoln did not deserve to die that way.
Fascinating! I"m especially intrigued by Powell - seems to have been a person of substance and depth.
Yeah I know, when I heard about him caring for injured animals ❤ and he looked kinda cute looking in some photos!
I lived in the town Clinton in Maryland in the mid 1960s as a child. We used to pass the Surratt house all the time when we rode around town. It was fully restored in 1975 I believe and turned into a museum.
I.
I have visited the Surratt house Museum
A few seconds before the end, Lewis Payne called out in a firm voice "Mrs. Surratt is innocent. She doesn't deserve to die with the rest of us."
Powell, not Payne.
@@nickcopeland6915 He used both names
@@nondisclosed5439 I know. I was just pointing out the real one.
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Federal soldiers visited the Surratt boarding house again late on the evening of April 17.[118][123][124] John Jr. could not be found, but after a search of the house, the agents found in Mary's room a picture of Booth, hidden behind another photograph, pictures of Confederate leaders including Jefferson Davis, a pistol, a mold for making bullets, and percussion caps.[120][123][125] As Mary was being arrested for conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln, Powell appeared at her door in disguise.[126][127][128] Although Surratt denied knowing him,[92][127][129] Powell claimed that he was a laborer hired by Surratt to dig a ditch the next morning. The discrepancy and Powell's remarkably well-dressed and -groomed appearance, quite unlike a ditch-digger, prompted his arrest.[92][127][129] He was later identified as the man who had attempted to assassinate Secretary of State William Seward.[126]
On April 11, Mary Surratt rented a carriage and drove to the Surratt tavern.[101] She said that she made the trip to collect a debt owed her by a former neighbor.[101] However, according to her tenant, John Lloyd, Surratt told him to get the "shooting irons" ready to be picked up.[88][102] On April 14, Surratt said that she would once again visit the family tavern in Surrattsville to collect a debt.[88][103] Shortly before she left the city, Booth visited the boarding house and spoke privately with her.[88][104][105] He gave her a package, later found to contain binoculars, for Lloyd to pick up later that evening.[88][104][105] Surratt did so and, according to Lloyd, again told Lloyd to have the "shooting irons" ready for pickup and handed him a wrapped package from Booth.[88][99][106][107]
1:38, what do you mean that " on the 1st of May 1865 Vice President Johnson ordered the trial " ? He was no longer Vice President- he had been US President for two weeks by then, since April 15th.
I have two great great uncles, Benjamin and Enoch Ellis who were a part of Lincoln's bodyguard detail.
An interesting thing happened years ago when my brother and I were still in high school. He dated a girl who's last name is Surratt.
My dad, who is a scholar with genealogy, traced her heritage back to Mary Surratt.
We marveled at the coincidence of this occurrence which took place in Southeast Kansas.
I mean, what are the odds?
Mrs. Surratt's maiden name was Jenkins.
@@robertguthrie1943 my mother in laws name was Jenkins from Maryland.
Impossible odds because it's not true.
@@Tank4LifeDamn, if I was going to make something up, I certainly could have dreamed up a story more action packed. You should reconsider the odds of families being related across statelines along certain routes down from Pennsylvania, through Illinois and Indiana, Missouri, Kansas. Odds are quite good in fact.
No intro anymore? Another great video btw.
Whoops!
intros waste time
One of the relatively unknown facts about the Lincoln Conspiracy Trial, and was something that the War Department went to great lengths to cover up, is that Hugh Louis Paine and Lewis Thornton Powell were separate individuals. Hugh Louis Paine was on of the four condemned, and was executed instead of his third cousin, Lewis Thornton Powell. The Prosecutors, and Lafayette Baker[Chief of the War Bureau of Detectives]were quite aware that Paine was innocent, but as long as he was willing to be hung in his cousin's place, they were comfortable with that.
Never heard this before
They had a slave testify?
They wanted them gone
The worst perpetrators of Lincoln's murder got away scott free. Only a few of the "trigger men" got prosecuted. The masterminds of the assassination were never punished as they had diplomatic immunity. This is why the US cut off all diplomatic relations with the Vatican in Rome only to be restored by Ronald Reagan in 1982.
TLDW: 4 was killed, 3 sentenced to life in prison, one got 6 years in jail, another one was found not guilty.
Great job and great voice 👏 keep using your skills to teach 👍
NO WAY that a narrator has a natural voice like this!
This probably IS his real voice. He is cute, though.
There's a country called England, maybe look at a map one day and see if you can find it....
@@newprofilesowhat1339 Every time I open a map my neighbors fat arse is in the way.
Sounds kind of like Cameron’s adult voice in ferris bueller’s day off
Pretty bad when the narrator drives you nuts.
Your voice is both commanding and compelling. I bet you do voice acting work, if you don't you should.
Yeah, he'd be good on The Simpsons.
By today's legal standards, Mary Suratt would not have been convicted.
Lol, as if standards have improved.
Several wouldn"t have been found guilty.
@smoggington1240 Totally don't disagree with you, but wet clothes get "hung," people get "hanged." (Not that that happens anymore in America; the last person to be hanged was in Delaware in the 90's. I've been to where the gallows where old Billy Bailey was hanged a few times. There wasn't enough employee parking so they made us park next to the old supermax where Billy was hanged. That place was super creepy...)
You are 100% correct!
She was tried by a military tribunal, not by a civilian court.
It was said that on Execution Day, troops caught five young boys that sneaked their way into the military compound via a section of crumbling wall in a basement service area... When asked, the kids answered, _"We just come here to see the hungin's, that's all!"_ Their efforts were not rewarded, as each one was personally escorted back to their homes, and to their parents, whom were not at all pleased with their antics!
Wasn't Dr. Mudd pardoned
Yes after serving time in prison
It's hanged, not hung.
i knew a Woman on trial for Murder.She was hoping for a"well hung jury".😂😂😂
Man could you imagine if they brought this back for all the lying politicians we have, can you imagine how much they would turn the table right now because if they don't they will get the rope? Please bring it back.
@@DannyWildmen huh? How? I'll be waiting for a very long time.
I think I heard the doctor was let out in a few years
He helped stop a typhoid epidemic on the Dry Tortugas island where he was imprisoned. His health was ruined and he died at age 60 from a fever.
The Fort McNair tennis courts are now where the gallows were.
Wow!
They should have appealed right up to the Supreme Court for clemency.........
They couldn’t. The military commission could only be appealed to the President and he denied an appeal for clemency for Mary Surratt.
@@laurapeter3857 that would have amounted to a miscarriage of justice. The new President was previously the Vice-President to Lincoln before his assassination, hence he would not be eager to grant clemency to the accused.
How many of them were truly conspirators and how many were merely accused and executed?
A gross miscarriage of justice, not the first, and certainly not the last!
Was his name Powell or Payne? Its different on several sites of this case..
Thomas Payne
Lewis Powell
In my opinion, justice was served with the exception of John Surrat. Military courts only consider facts, and that’s the way all courts should be. It’s so easy to look at this with today’s weak mindset and think it was harsh. Think of what the people then had been through. I can only speculate that an overwhelming majority of the citizens alive then were for exacting swift justice and closing the book on the conspirators and the Civil War, and I don’t blame them. People are so soft today, they would not be capable of enduring all the things that the people in the 19th century did. You had to be strong to survive and that is sorely missing from our world today. Peace is achieved only through strength and that applies both individually as well as universally.
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If by soft you mean ensuring that we don't put innocent people to death, sure, then we're soft. Thankfully we have a much HIGHER standard of law and justice. Even now it is far from perfect and we still need more work but the "good ole days" consisted of a lot of innocent people dying due to BS witness testimony and a lack of protective legislature.
If someone's guilty, so be it but what this man said is true. There was NO connection found between these people and a conspiratorial governing group. Therefore it was extremely unjust to have them IN a military court. How you can call some of the shady "witness" testimony as "facts" is beyond me.
"I can only speculate that an overwhelming majority of the citizens alive then were for exacting swift justice and closing the book on the conspirators and the Civil War, and I don’t blame them."
A RUSH to justice is NEVER actual justice. And that should mean something as an American. Even the doctor who treated Booth was prosecuted and sentence to life in prison. A guy who very likely had NO idea who Booth was. That's justice? Thankfully he didn't serve life but damn, you want those days back?
I DO agree we haven't had to live a lot of the horrible events and situations people from the past did, but in some ways we have greatly improved as a society. Let's just be grateful for what we have now and hope it doesn't take another civil war or more atrocities to "toughen" us up.
I agree100% !!!!!!
@@DarlaAnne
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@@DeepStateDismantlerInfinity Fair enough. Definite good points made by the presenter that show Mudd was likely not just an innocent party in it. It still doesn't invalidate the rest of my comment but thanks for sharing. Interesting watch!
Edited to add, at around 26 minutes in he erroneously states that Lincoln was in a coma for 2 or 3 days which most of us know is not true. He was shot the evening of April 14th and died that following morning.
Other than that the guy seems to know his stuff about Mudd.
Excelente exposições. Muito esclarecedor. Congratulations!!!
Ah! Portuguese! Excelente!
Lincoln would likely not have wanted their fate. A shame.
What is the point in questioning the legality of a trial that took place after a horrendous civil war, and the murder of Lincoln. An exercise in non-sense.
Booth stopped at a Black families home and tried to bully them into boarding him, they told him to beat it.
James William Boyd (1822 - after 1865) was an American Confederate military officer
What is the possibility that Edwin Stanton was involved in the conspiracy?
100 Percent that he Was
Nope
Ive study the Lincoln association my whole life. I ran the Booth reenactment tour that follows his excat trail he followed that night. I volunteered at Dr. Mudds home in Charles County Maryland. Booth thought he would inspire the south to keep fighting. When he learned a few days after that his actions were condemned even in the south, he was furious and filled with anger. Theres a lot of details you left out and really should have covered the assassination in more detail.
This video isn't ABOUT the assassination; it's about the trial of the conspirators. They have a separate vid on the assassination. Also, this vid is only 17-1/2 minutes long. They have to leave things out! There are TONS of videos about the Lincoln Assassination, but far less is known about the conspiracy and the plan to assassinate the other 2 men, basically decapitating the U.S. government and even less is known about the fate of the conspirators, except for Booth. So people can learn different details from LONGER, more in-depth, and more comprehensive documentaries and the many history channels (including animated channels) on YT. It's unrealistic to expect a 17-minute video to cover everything.
Booth, in his ignorance, thought he would become a hero to the South by a cowardly act of shooting an unsuspecting, unarmed man in the form of President Lincoln in the back. I believe the South would never honor such a coward to represent them by such an act. Those who listen to and followed a foolish individual as such should've known better. Southerners were depending on Mr. Lincoln in his plans for reconstruction to get them back on their feet and a full recovery. But Booth spoiled all that with his selfish ambitions to become a hero.
The physician who treated Wilkes Booth was incarcerated for life. We, physicians, can't deny anyone medical assistance. His incarceration was so unfair that it still makes me angry 💢😡
I agree, he likely didn't have anything to do with it other than be the unfortunate guy who treated Booth, but due to the case being in a military court they hammered him. In a civilian court he would likely have been released
He lied about which directon Booth and Herold went in when they left his house. He also had known Booth in 1864 when they were planning the kidnapping of Lincoln.
then why do you murder 10 million bnabies a year proving healthcare is Islamic Jihad especially when 90% of doctors are democrat enemies of Americans
He was released after two years for good behavior AND that he had helped to assist in treating prisoners because of some virus that had been going around at the time
@@jonathansparks3386 Good govt kills all criminals not 1 is allowed to live 5 minutes but pussies in govt make everything evil
I like how you flew the confederate flag in this video lol.. not the battle flag. The one uses as the CSA flag.. not sure why you did that.
Interesting observation.
Change your channel name to the incredible voice
Stanton reminds me of Bill Barr - “By any means necessary.”
Oh, Louis Powell. 😢
Louis Powell was only caught because he showed up at Mary's boarding house while authorities were questioning her.
Is that really his voice ?? 😳
It is indeed
@@alexanderdoddy7590 wack voice bro. Too dramatic
That trail was a joke.
Plain, simple, unconstitutional murder.
There are thousands of pages of history written by authors of this time (1847-1878) testifying of not only the guilt of those on trial but of many others who were immune to prosecution who were more guilty that the Surratts and their fellows. This history was factual in the late 1800s and early 1900s, but now has been turned into "conspiracy theory" or just simply marginalized unto oblivion. The unclassified gov't. docs and the books written by military and civilian authors still exist today, but they are rare and for the most part can only be found in the library of congress. So, hardly anyone knows their history today.
The bottom line is that the the Lincoln Admin. and some military generals knew exactly who was responsible and they were outraged as to what happened to their commander in chief and loyal friend. Only by military tribunal would they achieve justice as they knew they were up against a most formidable opponent; a religio political institution of the greatest intellectual capabilities. The US justice system at that time wanted to make a statement to the foreign conspirators that they will severely punish any US citizen that would cooperate with them in such horrific schemes. Unfortunately, the US government had no realistic recourse to prosecute those outside its national jurisdiction as well as lacking evidence because the cover up was so well orchestrated.
The global institution that assassinated Lincoln is now much more powerful and is in almost total control of US government. They are the same that took down JFK as well. JFKs famous speech after his inauguration and the concern of a major portion of the US public of him being a Roman Catholic made it very clear to me, among many other things, as to who was responsible for his assassination.
This should have NEVER been a military trial.
There should've never been a "trial" period!!!
@Smoggington that could be said of anyone n everyone that even conceived an evil thought, as Jesus said: "A man who conceived the idea of adultery has already commited it." Thus we are ALL guilty without judgement!!! How bout that Smogginton.....??
@Smoggington Nothing to do with it, why not?? And remember, it's always different fella when 'the shoes on the other foot'.......my last comment, good luck!
@Smoggington it's the kind of justice you would desire, correct??
Dr Samuel Mudd, not Dr. Samuel.
I wish there was a way to respond with voice instead of texting!
Is that your real accent?
Didn’t this man collaborate with The People Profiles?
Famed journalist Roger Mudd was related to Dr. Mudd, but he was not a descendant.
Nothing much in independence hall, but the one free from the wall paper was made in the rest of the month they saw his lower extremities bruise.
The announcer said "On the 1st of May, 1865, Vice President Johnson..." Immediately upon Lincoln's death, Johnson became the president.
The conspirators received exactly what they deserved, including Mary Surratt.
The conspirators didn't get Mary Surratt.
Yes, indeed. But many of them got away as no one knew who they were and found refuge in their homeland, Rome Italy. Only the trigger man and the front conspirators took the fall. It's also a possibility that Booth actually got away as the man they shot and killed they said was Booth did not match his description. Forensic specialists have never been allowed to verify the body of Booth even though up to this day there are some still petitioning for that right to put an end to the question.
If non of them received Jesus they have another judgement coming; same as all.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS FIXED
It was a 'sham trial' kangaroo court.....a mockery of justice!!!!
Justice and liberty for all!
Did You notice that it's a BRITTISHER who is doing the narration? Irony. 📚
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Severed from the top dollar to chip brass from aurora u. View.
Where are you from??
You have an interesting, and unknown to me, accent.
You don't sound American, Canadien, or Australian to me.
Or Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Yorkshire, Liverpudlian, or Cockney.
Where in the English speaking world do you come from?????
Is this a real voice of narration ?
You couldn't find another narrator? This guy sounds like a character from Ferris Bueller's day off. (ruclips.net/video/595lVRKMiDs/видео.htmlsi=nyB6KmNjeY4L-03f)
What evidence was there against Mary Surrat?
I think they got just what deserve.
They killed them with circumstantial evidence
Lincoln was a terrible president.
Thomas J Dilorenzo who wrote "The Real Lincoln" would agree with you!! Just ask a Southerner what they thought of Lincoln...
I would just say to check his record. He suspended habeas corpus, declared an illegal war; all of those things an overreach of power. He wiped his ass with the tenth amendment, all because slavery didn't make financial sense, and not any kind of moral or ethical reasoning. He also was against paying people for their property which is why eminent domain got created by him. It just amazes me that adolf lincler and FDR are the top presidents. I want to know what they are smoking.
He was a tyrant that created eminent domain
So the 4 didn't sit on death row for 14 years...
🤣🤣
🤔🤔 why would/should they??
@@johnhummer265 everyone else does
Neither did Oswald and Ruby.
Lincoln lived by the sword and died by the sword.
Is his voice real?
You are not taught the truth
Sounds like the 6 Jan hearing
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I wish.
@@keywesttexmex1 that's fuxked you to wish death upon people. I hope you never have kids
NOT EVEN CLOSE!! You are obviously a supporter of the CRIMINAL trump!
I'll bet that trial was fair and balanced.....
You sound sympathetic with the traitors. I’ll bet you didn’t like the J6 committee either.
They violated their rights like they do now
is this narrator for real
They were four years too late.
John Brown's outlaws!
fair enough Stanton was out for blood he may have had his issues with Lincoln but he would get justice for his commander in chief and I'm sure all of Lincoln's cabinet was clamouring for justice
Probably the case and that they wanted a "guarantee" of a guilty verdict.
@@alexanderdoddy7590 definitely gonna give the case a a good read
@@alexanderdoddy7590 … well well , Mr. Doddy , that would have been vengeance !!! … fine line sometimes differentiating that from justice !!!
@@rjwintl Indeed
Stanton was a traitor and part of the plot and was simply getting rid of as many potential loose lips that he could. When it was discovered that John Surratt was spotted in England Stanton immediately cancelled the reward out on him. another purpose of the trial was to keep the role of the Vatican and Pope Pious IX from being addressed. He is actually the one who ordered the assassination in the first place. He called Jefferson Davis his favorite son and they communicated often. From England, John Surratt then went to Rome and was eventually found living just outside of Rome in the army of the Pope. He was ordered arrested, but somehow escaped, wink wink, and would later be found in Alexandria Egypt and brought back to America to stand trial where the Catholic and Jesuit priests, and Freemasons of coarse circled their wagons and loaded the jury with people who would never find him guilty, and he walked free. BTW, Mary Surratt's boarding house was a known meeting place for Catholic and Jesuit Priests, something that was never brought out in the trial. The actual truth would make you sick.
This law needs to be used as inits the law .
Why do Brits and Ozzie's always post their views on American history you have NO VOICE in American REPUBLIC talk about your own countries to your own people
Worcestor v Georgia
They should have been free
Dude you talk funny, quit faking the accent.
haha in these times the trials wouldn't be over for a decade and appeals would take another while the insurrectionists in congress would keep trying to derail it. [wow even back then stanton was concerned about a drawn out appeals process... 🙂at some point due process becomes justice delayed is justice denied but where does it shift?]
PAINE NOT POWELL.
Of course there is no right answer, as it is in scholarly pursuits sometimes, but who could give a more definitive answer? And should they have been trialled in military court?
Wouldn't the precedent of civilians being trialled in military court be enough to determine whether they should have been tried by court marshal? And that the crime was of National Significance, and a crime against the Commander in Chief, means it can also be taken into military jurisdiction? After all, The Lieber Code which Lincoln introduced into law does make reference to civilians Article 148.
It says
"The law of war does not allow proclaiming either an individual belonging to the hostile army, or a citizen, or a subject of the hostile government, an outlaw, who may be slain without trial by any captor, any more than the modern law of peace allows such intentional outlawry; on the contrary, it abhors such outrage"...
The important part to question here, is "slain without trial by any captor, any more than the modern law of peace allows such intentional outcry". Here, I'd like to consult a legal scholar, in regards to Martial Law and "modern law of peace", that, if the civil courts are suspended, and I'm unaware of any proclamation stating otherwise, doesn't that mean that the military courts have jurisdiction? After all, Habeas Corpus wasn't in effect and the military were given the power to silence dissenters.
Love the topic, very interesting.
Indeed. It made sense, but may not have been fair. Also, the interpretation of a modern scholar may be different to one from that era. Possibly one of the reasons they pushed so hard, just in case an appeal etc... was able to force the situation into a civilian court
@@alexanderdoddy7590 Certainly peaked my interests. It's a case they always bring up when talking about non-state actors and terrorism, meaning, Al Qaeda etc., so, it remains hotly debated and is very much alive in the world of law in the United States. Came up just a few years ago, at least publicly I mean.
If nothing else they could have been tried for treason as it was evident that the conspiracy was going on long before the war was over. And treason is punishable by death.
Tried in a military court??? Why were they tried n convicted at all?? John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln, and he paid the price (died).......these defendants were 'scape goats' n nothing more.........!!
@@johnhummer265 They were fully part of the conspiracy. I don't see why they weren't all treated as such. I'm largely a realist in this sense - punish people to the full extend of the law.
First of all the guy sounds a little weird in the way he talks but as far as him being guilty there's overwhelming evidence against them I hate it when these jerks try to make something into a conspiracy that is not and problem with Mary was she lied when she was question when they were searching for these guys that got her in serious trouble no one knew for sure if she was part of a conspiracy or not but she definitely tried to hide them we know one thing someone killed him they know who did it there's no doubt about it and they found the connection and the evidence is there I believe these were the only four that was involved had they been found guilty by civilian court they still would have got hung with the possible exception of Mary but you never know back then they didn't play around yeah I hate people try to create conspiracies that are not there like this commentator just to make a story more interesting
This is what Trump is suggesting for Liz Cheany !!! Horrifying !!! 😮😮😮
Liar 🤥 damn democrats!!
160 years later and the Democrat Party hasn't changed.
Lincoln was a Republican.
Yes, and at the same time everything in government has gotten much worse and much more complicated.
Oh please. We were all having a nice conversation about an historical event and you had to try and start up a political argument. Please don’t.
Bull the democrats of the civil war are closer to today's Republicans.
RIGHT YOU ARE THE DEMORATS STILL WANT SLAVES.
I firmly believe that the narrator should be found guilty... of overacting.
great click bait
Why do you talk like that?
Another expert😂😂😂
Trump was directing a re ellion on J6. ..dob1945usadoc..
Yes, indeed he was and should have been detained/arrested that same day
Trump didn't direct a dam thing and you know that!
General Flynn and Roger Stone.. Now there's a more plausible pair responsible for the goings-on on J6..
Oh ya sure he was. Just ask the fake news huh???