I'm surprised they didn't. Then again, it's possible they don't have the elements anymore; these scenes showed up on the DVD release, but they were lower quality that was was broadcast on Fox. And after that fire at U Studios Hollywood in 2008, who knows what they still have anymore? Still, you never can tell with Spielberg-related movies. I'm thinking when the next "Jurassic World" movie hits, they'll be looking for some new way to fool you into buying everything you already have all over again. Releasing the extended version of this would be a pretty damn good start...
@@cubdukat Oh I'm sure someone still has the footage and are waiting for the 40th anniversary of the movie so they can re-release it as including "lost" scenes
Yeah but not in this order... It's totally illogical here... Malcolm is standing yawning in front of that beach poster for a reason while the train screeches by! Or do you think they added that in later when they decided to get rid of that boardroom scene so it would be a funny transition? It's so weird the two scenes would start with a yawning character anyway.
@@sct913 I still have these scenes from HDTV, I do plan on making a 'release' with both deleted scenes, but have to remove the TV logos from them. The scenes are a little bit wider than the 4x3 version, but crops a little bit of the bottom to fix the 16x9 format. I also have the fast End Credits from the extended version that aired on USA Network in early-mid 2000s.
@@CornBreadMan264 Removing a logo is a horror. Is it possible maybe to rewatch/record it without the tv logo on the computer or so? Here if we watch back a program/movie on the tv app the logo is always gone somehow. I think they still air this extended version on Syfy.
it also lets you know that everybody from the first movie was paid to keep quiet about what happened and that all the deaths and injuries had actual consequences that the company is still dealing with 4 years later. as an adults watching it with full knowledge of the first one, it lays a lot of "oh shit there were actual consequences from the first movie." I just wish there was some footage of Ian Malcolm saying some conspiracy stuff in the media because i never understood why he got weird looks from the people in the subway followed by the guy going, "I believed you!" in a sarcastic tone.
No idea why they cut this. It's a brilliant scene in terms of establishing the McGuffin, establishing the characters, and tying the overall plot together.
@@markzilla6895 Context is very different though - its the same account of events but relayed from a totally different perspective, exemplifying the difference between the Heroes and the Villains, so the information we draw from each version of the discussion is not the events itself, but the characters.
"Silence is expensive" I like that part very much, it establishes Ludlow's character very well. However, I can understand why Spielberg cut his scene. The most important information from it is repeated when Ian visits Hammond's mansion.
@@jordanstricker9296 Not only that they refer to Isla nublar being destroyed which really closed allot of doors for a potentional return to Isla Nublar in a future instalment. If this small 2:30 minutes scene made it into the movie we would never get Jurassic World
You do realize that the Mansion scene was probably reshot when they removed this scene so the redundant information could be added back into the film, right? So, if this was in the film, the mansion scene _probably_ wouldn't say it again. Maybe just add in some mentions but not go into detail.
Uhh guys? This scene is VERY important! This scene alters the way we see the Jurassic park series’ “main antagonists”, I’m makes me sympathize with their motives and actions because they’re working with a guy who loses millions of dollars(and eventually many lives) all because of his little flea circus/Disneyland Frankenstein idea.
John Hammond’s intentions had been noble and not one based on greed or profit, but to invigorate children’s fascination with dinosaurs. When Gennaro was speaking of profit margins, ticket pricing, and other financial stuff, Hammond stressed to him that presenting the wonders of dinosaurs to all were his sole motivation for building the park. He did not have any malice intended for anybody when it all went south. Unfortunately, as we see in the first movie, greed in Denis Nedry was the ultimate downfall in the park and John Hammond’s dreams. Nedry, bribed by a rival company, compromised the park in the pursuit of self-profit without regard for the potential consequences, which he himself paid the price for.
@@huydang5955 And all Hammond had to do, was pay him. (Dennis Nedry) And give their best tech guy there a raise. (That’s why he made a deal with Dodgson in the first place.) But the dinosaurs were also breeding as well. So it was only a matter of time, before they would eventually break out anyway. (I don’t remember it all well, but the novel explained how this park was doomed from the start, because the dinosaurs were breeding (even though they were all female? So asexually?) and were just uncontrollable in general.) “Life finds a way.”
Im reading the Jurassic park book for the first time. And I never knew that the compy scene with the kid on the beach was actually before the events of the first movie. And the kid actually survives. That was the first time the public started to get wind of the secret operation on the island.
@@mainstreamerchannel9919 No. From what I gather, the Fox broadcast of "Lost World" was the last time this scene appeared in the actual movie. The extended version hasn't been seen since.
@@LightStreak567 impossible. Its mentioned that Destruction of the islands facilities organic and inorganic. No way its retconned in. The events of Jurassic world wouldnt be possible
@@sle558 Back in 2014, a year and a few months before Jurassic World was released in theaters. In the Masrani Global website it stated that Ingen sent a clean up crew led by Henry Wu on November 1994. Wu discovered that the dinosaurs were breeding, he found out why, and that discovery is the foundation of his idea of creating dinosaurs like the Indominus Rex and Indoraptor. During The Lost World, Wu created a hybrid flower. See, he discovered that the dinosaurs were breeding because their DNA adapted to the amphibian DNA in ways he never expected.
@@steel749 They destroyed all the facilities of Jurassic Park, even the fences and tour car roads, and they had to capture or euthanize the dinosaurs that survived. If they didn't canonically do all of this, how did Henry Wu know not to use frog DNA in dinosaurs anymore when creating the new dinosaurs for Jurassic World? That's right, most of the dinosaurs in Jurassic World do not have amphibian DNA in them, he used reptilian DNA this time. Only the Tyrannosaurus which is the same one from the first film and that one brachiosaurus are the only dinos that are allowed to be in the park as long as they are the only ones of their species there otherwise the amphibian DNA will switch their gender for breeding to happen.
I have to admit, seeing the InGen Corporation board room deleted scene come in after the opening scene isn't bad. I wish it had still been included. I know it would've made the film a little longer some, but we wouldn't mind at all, would we?
He's not as bad as the movie tries to make him out to be, but he is still extremely greedy and short-sighted. InGen should have just cut their losses, instead of the catastrophically stupid plan to rebuild JP on the mainland.
Zax BitterZen really thats what you think the park was literally sabotages by Dennis nerdy yes Hammond may have mad sum stupid decisions but Hammond wanted to make Jurassic park to see the smiles on peoples faces unlike ludlow which is doing it for the money and it’s not showed in this video but ludlow Hammonds own nephew votes him out in the conference room and ludlow is kind of rude you know how he said “these animals have no rights we own them”
@@zaxbitterzen2178 I know but still if Hammond had bad intentions I would agree with you but Hammond had the good intentions but his nephew is the complete opposite if you didn’t know Jurassic park is based of of a novel written by Michael Crichton you know in one of his quotes he said “it’s hard to decide who’s truly brilliant it’s easier to see who’s driven which in the long run may be more important”
@@michealbaker1873 it was Hammonds "good intentions" that started this mess in the first place. His nephew is just doing his best to mitigate the losses.
Considering Nedry was behind the whole incident and party to corporate espionage, might just have been that they couldn't have possibly won the lawsuit. They might not have been able to confirm or prove that BioSyn had paid off Nedry, but the survivors heard firsthand from Ray Arnold that Nedry was responsible for the incident.
@@BDNeon I watched a legal video on this topic. From memory, Nedrys family could have still sued for negligence, Hammond is still ultimately responsible for the fact Nedry died under his employment. Theoretically Hammond should have implemented contingency safety measures so stealing the embryos was impossible, but even if he could still steal them, Nedry should have been able to commit his crime without dying. Increased security so he can't leave the building, better roads with stronger safety barriers, better signage so he can find the docks, etc. A good lawyer would still be able to make a case Hammond is ultimately at fault. However, any financial settlement from InGen would have been redirected by the judge to pay the settlements for the other deaths Nedrys actions directly caused: Gennaro, Arnold, Muldoon. The family would never see a cent. Legal Eagle is the name of the channel, he has a video on Jurassic Parks legal culpability. I might have forgotten some things or mixed stuff up, so I'm giving you the channel name in case you'd like to watch it yourself! 🙂
@@VitZ9 I don’t agree even if his family sues in my opinion nerdy still stole and I think he gets what he deserves for being greedy if we were living in the same universe as Jurassic park that lawyer would be in my opinion a bloodsucking lawyer as Hammond says in the first movie to be honest I hate the job of law most lawyer don’t even care if what there saying is true or not all they care about is winning the case even if the lawyers client is the one to blame all they care about is the money
As far as anyone at JP knew he escaped with the embryos. His family may have suspected that he died when he never came back, but InGen could spin it as them piggybacking off the other suits.
It would be cool if they released this on DVD and make this its own seperate universe I personally don’t really care for the direction of the new Jurassic world movies so this would be pretty cool to have it branch off into a new line of cannon
This scene mentions the destruction of organic and inorganic of the isla nublar island. Imagine if they went this way and all the dinos were killed on that island? Jurassic world and fallen kingdom would be alot different
Does nobody else remember this scene in the film? I mean it was cut down, but I def remember that guy saying the kid will be fine but the parents are rich
I can tell you with 100% certainty that this scene (in its' entirety) was cut from the theatrical release. I can remember quite clearly, the beginning scene ends with the mother screaming, then abruptly cuts to Malcom waiting in the subway. This scene WAS included in TV broadcasts.
@@mikegallant811 He was the cause but his family wasn’t. Granted, I doubt a man who couldn’t see his own dick would have any kids but if he did, they shouldn’t have been left with one less wage earner so that money would’ve been needed, especially if Nedry was having financial problems as it was.
@Cerulean Skies Ooh, whereabouts in the novel does it say that? I’m not saying I don’t believe you, it’ll just be a lot easier to look up if I have a vague idea of whereabouts in the book to start looking.
@@ghostmadlittlemiss I know but there's one thing you got to consider none of the bad stuff that occurred at Jurassic Park would have occurred if Dennis Nedry had not done what he did the thing is not even John Hammond himself knew what was really going on with with Dennis he had no knowledge of the fact that that man was intending to commit industrial espionage because he was actually in the pay of Lewis Dodgson of Biosyn which basically was a company that under Mr Dodgson's leadership went and committed industrial espionage in a major way one of their people who had formerly worked for Cetus put several strains of bioengineered bacteria on her fingernails and walked out the door and delivered them . biosyn was in the reverse engineering game. In other words they would take other people's stuff and reverse engineer them and say it was their own product at least that's what I read in the original Jurassic Park novel but this one this one took the taco Dennis nedry basically placed the command into the park computers that would shut down the electric fences and shut down the card locks on the doors he only did it of course so that he could get the dinosaur embryos out of the freezers in the cloning lab and then could deliver them to dodgson's man on the East dock. Little did he know what would happen as a result the isla nublar incident as a result of his actions several innocent people were killed. Donald Gennaro, Robert Muldoon and I believe John Arnold or Ray Arnold or whatever his name was. Also several people were put in harm's way. Those who are thankfully not killed but were severely affected by the incident at the park were Dr Ian Malcolm paleontologist Dr Ellie sattler paleobotanist Dr Ian Malcolm mathematician, as well as two minor children Timothy Murphy and his sister Alexis and this also brought near ruin to Mr Hammond's company, Ingen. So you could say that in a way Dennis is lucky that he died because if he hadn't he would have been answering for a lot of bad things that happened as a result of his actions!
I wonder why Spielberg didn’t put Lewis Dodgson from the first movie in this position instead, saying that he’d bought out InGen after the losses incurred by Hammond. There would be at least two benefits to this. One, it would create stronger continuity. Two, Dodgson would work much better as the villain Ludlow is supposed to be.
This scene is sooooo crucial to the film & even the first film as well 💯 don’t know why it’s not in the theatrical version, it would only show this scene & the rest of deleted scenes on (at the time) the USA channel 🤷🏾♂️ this scene bleeds into how the movie plays itself out 💯
Very good scene this would have been great in fleshing out ingens and Ludlows motive for being on the island and shipping the dinosaurs to the mainland.
I can see why they cut this scene, the mansion scene covered it better and it would’ve taken away from Ludlow’s reveal as the bad guy in that scene. But a part of me really wishes (and I’ve said the same on many other JP videos so if this sounded familiar, that might be why) that in JW, we’d seen Masrani in Ingen’s boardroom as well. It would’ve made a fantastic compare and contrast.
When you add up the cost for the wrongful death settlements combine with the cost for Damaged or destroyed equipment and demolition and destruction and disposal of all isle Nublar facilities. It amounts to a colossal 215.4 million dollars in lost revenue. But that doesn’t even begin to account for the costs of both research funding and media payoff. So when adding those into the mix, we can estimate that it amounts to a grand total of nearly a quarter of a billion dollars in loses.
0:44 The scene wouldn't really work in the modern Jurassic series because here they basically say that after Jurassic Park, InGen went back to Nublar and destroyed the whole park and killed all of the dinosaurs.
@@kevin_ramirez2529 Lol I don't know if I believe you. I saw it in theaters also and this scene wasn't there. Is there any source that says some theaters showed longer cuts of The Lost World?
When ludlow mentions the deaths of the 3 that died in the first movie and they had to pay money to there families for it he forgot about the 4th which was Dennis Nedry
I saw somewhere that you can’t sue or counter sue a company or someone if you committed a crime or conspiracy. For example he plan to steal the embryos, he used his hacking to shut down parts of the park, that lead to property damage and deaths. Then he was killed by a Dino, his family members can’t sue for justice on his death, due to the destruction and crime he’s committed. I think it’s called “dirty hands” law or something
@@jefflopez9348 yes Mr Lopez you are indeed correct Dennis nedry was responsible for all the deaths and destruction that occurred in Jurassic Park on Isla nublar. It was due to the actions of Dennis nedry that 3 good men lost their lives: Robert Muldoon,Ray Arnold, and Donald Gennaro.and all so that he could get those stolen embryos to the boat that would have taken them to Lew Dodgson of Ingen's rival Biosyn! Dennis Nedry's family did not deserve any compensation for his death. In fact I hope they disowned him.
Well it'd be a little confusing today considering in this scene John Hammond is called "John Parker Hammond" but in JW2 he's called "John Arnold Hammond"
Did you edit this scene with the prologue yourself? Where did you find this, I know they aired a version of the film with the deleted scenes included on TV but they never released it officially.
christhegeek517 Do you have the full version? I know a lot of Lost World fans would be ecstatic if it was available to download somewhere. Myself included.
He mentioned that they paid for the deconstruction of everything on isla nublar, wonder how that would have affected JW story line? I hope they show a scene like this in JWFK.
It would be nice, but this scene is moreso about removing Hammond from his position. Masrani's CEO died on park grounds, so a transition of the title would have gone smoothly. That, and I'm pretty sure the people taking the dinosaurs from the island are doing so illegally. This is a great scene though (extremely well shot), and I do hope JWFK has scenes that take their time to address statistics and logistics like this and the first movie did.
@@MirandaAndUh yeah Simon masrani was a good man much like Mr Hammond but while Mr Hammond probably died a peaceful death Simon did not as we all well know in that scene in Jurassic world when he and some of the guys from the the unit that was in charge of controlling the animals were trying to take down the escaped indominus Rex somehow the aviary was damaged and some of the pteranodons escape from the aviary and cause Mr masrani's helicopter to crash with all onboard lost.
I am usually on the side of putting deleted scenes back in movies but with this scene I find there’s nothing from this scene that we ether don’t learn from Hammond’s conversation with Ian, Ian’s conversation with Ludlow just before that or can’t figure out for ourselves. So with all that this scene is just redundant. Now the scene with Roland getting recruited SHOULD have ABSOLUTELY been Left in the film!!!!!
I imagine the families of the three who died would have wanted there remains recovered from the island too. Although there would've probably only been bones
I've never seen the extended cut. If you keep this scene in, what does the movie do with Ian Malcolm's first scene? Does it just cut out that entire scene of him getting on the subway?
yeah, no it's a private tracker which focuses on retro stuff. they want to make sure no one is going into their site for a hit and run with Star Wars movies
It's totally illogical here... Malcolm is standing yawning in front of that beach poster for a reason while the train screeches by! Or do you think they added that in later when they decided to get rid of that boardroom scene so it would be a funny transition? It's so weird two scenes start with a yawning character.
God damn they really need to re-release an extended edition of the lost world with these deleted scenes...
I'm surprised they didn't. Then again, it's possible they don't have the elements anymore; these scenes showed up on the DVD release, but they were lower quality that was was broadcast on Fox. And after that fire at U Studios Hollywood in 2008, who knows what they still have anymore?
Still, you never can tell with Spielberg-related movies. I'm thinking when the next "Jurassic World" movie hits, they'll be looking for some new way to fool you into buying everything you already have all over again. Releasing the extended version of this would be a pretty damn good start...
@@cubdukat Oh I'm sure someone still has the footage and are waiting for the 40th anniversary of the movie so they can re-release it as including "lost" scenes
Yeah but not in this order...
It's totally illogical here... Malcolm is standing yawning in front of that beach poster for a reason while the train screeches by! Or do you think they added that in later when they decided to get rid of that boardroom scene so it would be a funny transition? It's so weird the two scenes would start with a yawning character anyway.
@@sct913 I still have these scenes from HDTV, I do plan on making a 'release' with both deleted scenes, but have to remove the TV logos from them.
The scenes are a little bit wider than the 4x3 version, but crops a little bit of the bottom to fix the 16x9 format.
I also have the fast End Credits from the extended version that aired on USA Network in early-mid 2000s.
@@CornBreadMan264 Removing a logo is a horror. Is it possible maybe to rewatch/record it without the tv logo on the computer or so? Here if we watch back a program/movie on the tv app the logo is always gone somehow. I think they still air this extended version on Syfy.
Me as a kid: This scene is boring!
Me now: Aha, the fate of INGEN now lies on you...
@Caleb Luis Yea, have been using Flixzone for years myself :D
it also lets you know that everybody from the first movie was paid to keep quiet about what happened and that all the deaths and injuries had actual consequences that the company is still dealing with 4 years later. as an adults watching it with full knowledge of the first one, it lays a lot of "oh shit there were actual consequences from the first movie." I just wish there was some footage of Ian Malcolm saying some conspiracy stuff in the media because i never understood why he got weird looks from the people in the subway followed by the guy going, "I believed you!" in a sarcastic tone.
Like the lunch scene in Jurassic Park, fast forwarded through the scene as a kid, as an adult, one of the best scenes of the movie.
@@kevinnavarro2180 indeed
No idea why they cut this. It's a brilliant scene in terms of establishing the McGuffin, establishing the characters, and tying the overall plot together.
It was discussed later in Hammond's scene, so it felt repetitive.
@@markzilla6895 Context is very different though - its the same account of events but relayed from a totally different perspective, exemplifying the difference between the Heroes and the Villains, so the information we draw from each version of the discussion is not the events itself, but the characters.
"Silence is expensive"
I like that part very much, it establishes Ludlow's character very well. However, I can understand why Spielberg cut his scene. The most important information from it is repeated when Ian visits Hammond's mansion.
Yeah it would be redundant to feed the audience the same info in two different scenes
@@jordanstricker9296 Not only that they refer to Isla nublar being destroyed which really closed allot of doors for a potentional return to Isla Nublar in a future instalment.
If this small 2:30 minutes scene made it into the movie we would never get Jurassic World
You do realize that the Mansion scene was probably reshot when they removed this scene so the redundant information could be added back into the film, right?
So, if this was in the film, the mansion scene _probably_ wouldn't say it again. Maybe just add in some mentions but not go into detail.
@@TheTitanicdude Some would say that would have been for the better
@@TheTitanicdude You know it would have been a blessing if they never made Jurassic World in the first place, right?
Uhh guys? This scene is VERY important! This scene alters the way we see the Jurassic park series’ “main antagonists”, I’m makes me sympathize with their motives and actions because they’re working with a guy who loses millions of dollars(and eventually many lives) all because of his little flea circus/Disneyland Frankenstein idea.
but is also shows the greed of Ingen as corporation
They could have added it in a special edition.
@@vojtechdjakov7271 but at the very least it's intelligent greed it had its purpose.
John Hammond’s intentions had been noble and not one based on greed or profit, but to invigorate children’s fascination with dinosaurs. When Gennaro was speaking of profit margins, ticket pricing, and other financial stuff, Hammond stressed to him that presenting the wonders of dinosaurs to all were his sole motivation for building the park. He did not have any malice intended for anybody when it all went south.
Unfortunately, as we see in the first movie, greed in Denis Nedry was the ultimate downfall in the park and John Hammond’s dreams. Nedry, bribed by a rival company, compromised the park in the pursuit of self-profit without regard for the potential consequences, which he himself paid the price for.
@@huydang5955 And all Hammond had to do, was pay him. (Dennis Nedry)
And give their best tech guy there a raise. (That’s why he made a deal with Dodgson in the first place.)
But the dinosaurs were also breeding as well.
So it was only a matter of time, before they would eventually break out anyway.
(I don’t remember it all well, but the novel explained how this park was doomed from the start, because the dinosaurs were breeding (even though they were all female? So asexually?) and were just uncontrollable in general.)
“Life finds a way.”
That's a long one shot and he did remember all his dialogs. Impressive!
Feel bad for the actor, this is a fantastic acting job from him and makes him a much better villain.
Im reading the Jurassic park book for the first time. And I never knew that the compy scene with the kid on the beach was actually before the events of the first movie.
And the kid actually survives.
That was the first time the public started to get wind of the secret operation on the island.
I just watched this on TV, and it had this scene included in it
Is it on TBS?
Yet no one ever uploads it in decent quality
@@mainstreamerchannel9919 No. From what I gather, the Fox broadcast of "Lost World" was the last time this scene appeared in the actual movie. The extended version hasn't been seen since.
This scene was MEANT to be left in the film. When you put it back in it makes Lost World nearly as good as the original movie.....
They retconned it back.
LightStreak567 when???
@@LightStreak567 impossible.
Its mentioned that Destruction of the islands facilities organic and inorganic.
No way its retconned in.
The events of Jurassic world wouldnt be possible
@@sle558 Back in 2014, a year and a few months before Jurassic World was released in theaters. In the Masrani Global website it stated that Ingen sent a clean up crew led by Henry Wu on November 1994. Wu discovered that the dinosaurs were breeding, he found out why, and that discovery is the foundation of his idea of creating dinosaurs like the Indominus Rex and Indoraptor. During The Lost World, Wu created a hybrid flower.
See, he discovered that the dinosaurs were breeding because their DNA adapted to the amphibian DNA in ways he never expected.
@@steel749 They destroyed all the facilities of Jurassic Park, even the fences and tour car roads, and they had to capture or euthanize the dinosaurs that survived. If they didn't canonically do all of this, how did Henry Wu know not to use frog DNA in dinosaurs anymore when creating the new dinosaurs for Jurassic World? That's right, most of the dinosaurs in Jurassic World do not have amphibian DNA in them, he used reptilian DNA this time. Only the Tyrannosaurus which is the same one from the first film and that one brachiosaurus are the only dinos that are allowed to be in the park as long as they are the only ones of their species there otherwise the amphibian DNA will switch their gender for breeding to happen.
I have to admit, seeing the InGen Corporation board room deleted scene come in after the opening scene isn't bad.
I wish it had still been included.
I know it would've made the film a little longer some, but we wouldn't mind at all, would we?
Ummm this scene essentially proves that Ludlow is not a villain. He's doing his best to deal with stupid decision's made by his uncle.
He's not as bad as the movie tries to make him out to be, but he is still extremely greedy and short-sighted. InGen should have just cut their losses, instead of the catastrophically stupid plan to rebuild JP on the mainland.
Zax BitterZen really thats what you think the park was literally sabotages by Dennis nerdy yes Hammond may have mad sum stupid decisions but Hammond wanted to make Jurassic park to see the smiles on peoples faces unlike ludlow which is doing it for the money and it’s not showed in this video but ludlow Hammonds own nephew votes him out in the conference room and ludlow is kind of rude you know how he said “these animals have no rights we own them”
@@michealbaker1873 but he's absolutely right though. It's the same reason we have invasive species problems ecologist's getting way too much sway.
@@zaxbitterzen2178 I know but still if Hammond had bad intentions I would agree with you but Hammond had the good intentions but his nephew is the complete opposite if you didn’t know Jurassic park is based of of a novel written by Michael Crichton you know in one of his quotes he said “it’s hard to decide who’s truly brilliant it’s easier to see who’s driven which in the long run may be more important”
@@michealbaker1873 it was Hammonds "good intentions" that started this mess in the first place. His nephew is just doing his best to mitigate the losses.
They aired at Fox 32 long time ago. I never realized that this scene was cut out before. lol
While I wish the deleted scene was in it 0:04 come nowhere close to that awesome subway transition scene!
SYFY included this scene as well as other deleted scenes. Was the best.
Despite what his family recieved, Muldoon was worth more than all those others put together. 😪
Nedry's family didn't love him enough to sue. 😁
Considering Nedry was behind the whole incident and party to corporate espionage, might just have been that they couldn't have possibly won the lawsuit. They might not have been able to confirm or prove that BioSyn had paid off Nedry, but the survivors heard firsthand from Ray Arnold that Nedry was responsible for the incident.
@@BDNeon
I watched a legal video on this topic. From memory, Nedrys family could have still sued for negligence, Hammond is still ultimately responsible for the fact Nedry died under his employment. Theoretically Hammond should have implemented contingency safety measures so stealing the embryos was impossible, but even if he could still steal them, Nedry should have been able to commit his crime without dying. Increased security so he can't leave the building, better roads with stronger safety barriers, better signage so he can find the docks, etc. A good lawyer would still be able to make a case Hammond is ultimately at fault.
However, any financial settlement from InGen would have been redirected by the judge to pay the settlements for the other deaths Nedrys actions directly caused: Gennaro, Arnold, Muldoon. The family would never see a cent.
Legal Eagle is the name of the channel, he has a video on Jurassic Parks legal culpability. I might have forgotten some things or mixed stuff up, so I'm giving you the channel name in case you'd like to watch it yourself! 🙂
@@VitZ9 I don’t agree even if his family sues in my opinion nerdy still stole and I think he gets what he deserves for being greedy if we were living in the same universe as Jurassic park that lawyer would be in my opinion a bloodsucking lawyer as Hammond says in the first movie to be honest I hate the job of law most lawyer don’t even care if what there saying is true or not all they care about is winning the case even if the lawyers client is the one to blame all they care about is the money
As far as anyone at JP knew he escaped with the embryos. His family may have suspected that he died when he never came back, but InGen could spin it as them piggybacking off the other suits.
This scene was in the television version I saw a few years ago. I was WTF but glad it explained why this guy was the villain
It would be cool if they released this on DVD and make this its own seperate universe I personally don’t really care for the direction of the new Jurassic world movies so this would be pretty cool to have it branch off into a new line of cannon
Looking at the direction that the new movies are going in, I think we might want to do just that. I think their should definitely be two films cannons
Definitely should’ve kept this and the Roland bar fight in the film. These scenes were iconic
I remember the first time I saw this scene on TV, I was like "yeah that was all pretty important".
This scene mentions the destruction of organic and inorganic of the isla nublar island.
Imagine if they went this way and all the dinos were killed on that island?
Jurassic world and fallen kingdom would be alot different
Maybe he’s referring to dead organic material.
@@rogersstinson4019
He is referring to the dinosaurs.
That one dude looks like he could be Tom Hank's brother
Muldoon’s family deserved more money in their settlement.
Maybe because it was expected in his line of work to face certain dangers, whereas Arnold and Gennaro were unexpected casualties
“Wonderful news, Peter. Wonderful. Matter of fact, it’s the reason we’re selling the company.”
Why was this cut! So much context lost
I like this scene but I can see why it was cut. It find of interrupts the flow of the movie. Lost World is my favorite Jurassic Park movie made so far
It's a good scene, but there's too much expository dialogue I feel.
Does nobody else remember this scene in the film? I mean it was cut down, but I def remember that guy saying the kid will be fine but the parents are rich
I can tell you with 100% certainty that this scene (in its' entirety) was cut from the theatrical release. I can remember quite clearly, the beginning scene ends with the mother screaming, then abruptly cuts to Malcom waiting in the subway. This scene WAS included in TV broadcasts.
It wasn't in the movie. This was part of Fox's broadcast premiere of "Lost World." It was only shown once.
of course Gennaro was more expensive. Guess Hammond gave him the apology.
Nerdy's family got shit 😂Could be referenced in JW3.
Dennis Nedry was the cause of all that happened! His family deserved nothing!
@@mikegallant811 He was the cause but his family wasn’t.
Granted, I doubt a man who couldn’t see his own dick would have any kids but if he did, they shouldn’t have been left with one less wage earner so that money would’ve been needed, especially if Nedry was having financial problems as it was.
@Cerulean Skies Ooh, whereabouts in the novel does it say that?
I’m not saying I don’t believe you, it’ll just be a lot easier to look up if I have a vague idea of whereabouts in the book to start looking.
@@ghostmadlittlemiss I know but there's one thing you got to consider none of the bad stuff that occurred at Jurassic Park would have occurred if Dennis Nedry had not done what he did the thing is not even John Hammond himself knew what was really going on with with Dennis he had no knowledge of the fact that that man was intending to commit industrial espionage because he was actually in the pay of Lewis Dodgson of Biosyn which basically was a company that under Mr Dodgson's leadership went and committed industrial espionage in a major way one of their people who had formerly worked for Cetus put several strains of bioengineered bacteria on her fingernails and walked out the door and delivered them . biosyn was in the reverse engineering game. In other words they would take other people's stuff and reverse engineer them and say it was their own product at least that's what I read in the original Jurassic Park novel but this one this one took the taco Dennis nedry basically placed the command into the park computers that would shut down the electric fences and shut down the card locks on the doors he only did it of course so that he could get the dinosaur embryos out of the freezers in the cloning lab and then could deliver them to dodgson's man on the East dock. Little did he know what would happen as a result the isla nublar incident as a result of his actions several innocent people were killed. Donald Gennaro, Robert Muldoon and I believe John Arnold or Ray Arnold or whatever his name was. Also several people were put in harm's way. Those who are thankfully not killed but were severely affected by the incident at the park were Dr Ian Malcolm paleontologist Dr Ellie sattler paleobotanist Dr Ian Malcolm mathematician, as well as two minor children Timothy Murphy and his sister Alexis and this also brought near ruin to Mr Hammond's company, Ingen. So you could say that in a way Dennis is lucky that he died because if he hadn't he would have been answering for a lot of bad things that happened as a result of his actions!
Actually I goofed on the paleontologist... His name is Dr. Alan Grant.
I wonder why Spielberg didn’t put Lewis Dodgson from the first movie in this position instead, saying that he’d bought out InGen after the losses incurred by Hammond. There would be at least two benefits to this. One, it would create stronger continuity. Two, Dodgson would work much better as the villain Ludlow is supposed to be.
Watched the original movie a few times which went from screaming mother to Malcolm hopping a subway. Only once did I see the jump to this scene on TV.
I do like that they still do the match cut to a man yawning
This scene is sooooo crucial to the film & even the first film as well 💯 don’t know why it’s not in the theatrical version, it would only show this scene & the rest of deleted scenes on (at the time) the USA channel 🤷🏾♂️ this scene bleeds into how the movie plays itself out 💯
Very good scene this would have been great in fleshing out ingens and Ludlows motive for being on the island and shipping the dinosaurs to the mainland.
GREAT THE LOST WORLD JURASSIC PARK 1997 FILM DELETED SCENE !!!!
I can see why they cut this scene, the mansion scene covered it better and it would’ve taken away from Ludlow’s reveal as the bad guy in that scene.
But a part of me really wishes (and I’ve said the same on many other JP videos so if this sounded familiar, that might be why) that in JW, we’d seen Masrani in Ingen’s boardroom as well. It would’ve made a fantastic compare and contrast.
Same
All they're missing is Pvt. Joker and u could call this somewhat of a reunion. 😝😝
I can’t believe they cut this scene.
When you add up the cost for the wrongful death settlements combine with the cost for Damaged or destroyed equipment and demolition and destruction and disposal of all isle Nublar facilities. It amounts to a colossal 215.4 million dollars in lost revenue. But that doesn’t even begin to account for the costs of both research funding and media payoff. So when adding those into the mix, we can estimate that it amounts to a grand total of nearly a quarter of a billion dollars in loses.
0:44 The scene wouldn't really work in the modern Jurassic series because here they basically say that after Jurassic Park, InGen went back to Nublar and destroyed the whole park and killed all of the dinosaurs.
I remember watchin this movie in the movie theater as a kid and this scene was shown.
It wasn't for me. it cuts to Ian yawning on the subway platform.
fire2box oh man, I remember it was such a long movie in the theater. It even had the scene with Roland fighting the dude in the bar.
@@kevin_ramirez2529 Lol I don't know if I believe you. I saw it in theaters also and this scene wasn't there. Is there any source that says some theaters showed longer cuts of The Lost World?
jdxsr85 lol, maybe it was the Mandela Effect. It was a very long time ago.
Saw this in the theaters as a kid in Finland and I don't remember this being there and I especially don't remember the weird fight scene being there.
When ludlow mentions the deaths of the 3 that died in the first movie and they had to pay money to there families for it he forgot about the 4th which was Dennis Nedry
Who knows his family might've disowned him
I saw somewhere that you can’t sue or counter sue a company or someone if you committed a crime or conspiracy. For example he plan to steal the embryos, he used his hacking to shut down parts of the park, that lead to property damage and deaths. Then he was killed by a Dino, his family members can’t sue for justice on his death, due to the destruction and crime he’s committed. I think it’s called “dirty hands” law or something
@@jefflopez9348 yes Mr Lopez you are indeed correct Dennis nedry was responsible for all the deaths and destruction that occurred in Jurassic Park on Isla nublar. It was due to the actions of Dennis nedry that 3 good men lost their lives: Robert Muldoon,Ray Arnold, and Donald Gennaro.and all so that he could get those stolen embryos to the boat that would have taken them to Lew Dodgson of Ingen's rival Biosyn! Dennis Nedry's family did not deserve any compensation for his death. In fact I hope they disowned him.
And his crimes would likely be industrial espionage,and either involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.
It could still be referenced in JW3. Whose to say Nerdy's kid if he had any aren't as greedy.
Hopefully one day people found all the deleted scenes
Wow! This scene destroys Jurassic World entire plot (well, that franchise was born dead anyway XD).
Well it'd be a little confusing today considering in this scene John Hammond is called "John Parker Hammond" but in JW2 he's called "John Arnold Hammond"
0:32-0:53 A sum total of that is $215,400,000
Did you edit this scene with the prologue yourself? Where did you find this, I know they aired a version of the film with the deleted scenes included on TV but they never released it officially.
This is taken from TV
christhegeek517 Do you have the full version? I know a lot of Lost World fans would be ecstatic if it was available to download somewhere. Myself included.
Nope sorry. I only have the TV version
Yeah but is it the full movie or do you only have the deleted scenes? That’d be great if you have the full TV version.
Yes I do have the full TV Version
He mentioned that they paid for the deconstruction of everything on isla nublar, wonder how that would have affected JW story line? I hope they show a scene like this in JWFK.
It would be nice, but this scene is moreso about removing Hammond from his position. Masrani's CEO died on park grounds, so a transition of the title would have gone smoothly. That, and I'm pretty sure the people taking the dinosaurs from the island are doing so illegally. This is a great scene though (extremely well shot), and I do hope JWFK has scenes that take their time to address statistics and logistics like this and the first movie did.
@@MirandaAndUh yeah Simon masrani was a good man much like Mr Hammond but while Mr Hammond probably died a peaceful death Simon did not as we all well know in that scene in Jurassic world when he and some of the guys from the the unit that was in charge of controlling the animals were trying to take down the escaped indominus Rex somehow the aviary was damaged and some of the pteranodons escape from the aviary and cause Mr masrani's helicopter to crash with all onboard lost.
This is a good scene but I can see why it was cut. It kinda interrupts the flow of the early movie
Peter ludlow explained about death of people in jurassic park
i’ve seen this scene on fox once when i thought it was supposed to be the weird subway one 😭
I am usually on the side of putting deleted scenes back in movies but with this scene I find there’s nothing from this scene that we ether don’t learn from Hammond’s conversation with Ian, Ian’s conversation with Ludlow just before that or can’t figure out for ourselves. So with all that this scene is just redundant. Now the scene with Roland getting recruited SHOULD have ABSOLUTELY been Left in the film!!!!!
So they Blew Nublar to hell like the Novels.
Obvious, the lawyer from Jurassic Park 1 would have gotten the most money for his family in death lol
But wait Peter said John Arnold but his name was changed in the first movie to Ray Arnold so why they did it here?
I imagine the families of the three who died would have wanted there remains recovered from the island too. Although there would've probably only been bones
It's in the TV version.
I've never seen the extended cut. If you keep this scene in, what does the movie do with Ian Malcolm's first scene? Does it just cut out that entire scene of him getting on the subway?
That is amazing :D Where did you find this cut? o.o Do you have the scene where Peter Ludlow breaks the Baby t-rex leg aswell? :D
+J-rex 9526 Maybe, this was taken from the TV version. I'll check for more footage
Ahhh ^^ Is there a way to get The TV version? :) Thank you :D
J-rex 9526 MySpleen has it. But your gonna need an invite for the website
+christhegeek517 ahhh ^^ An invite? This may be a stupid question But why an invite? Well, either way it shouldnt be much of a problem, Right? :)
yeah, no it's a private tracker which focuses on retro stuff. they want to make sure no one is going into their site for a hit and run with Star Wars movies
So weird... how does Ian Malcolm's scene start then after this? is he still yawning in front of that tropical subway poster?
I can see why they removed. A little too much info dumping. I get that. But still...could've been left in.
This scene would have change all world trilogy
Pourquoi est ce que cette scène a été retirée du montage final du film ?
I do like this scene alot but I understand why it was cut. The transition in the final cut was much better.
It's totally illogical here... Malcolm is standing yawning in front of that beach poster for a reason while the train screeches by! Or do you think they added that in later when they decided to get rid of that boardroom scene so it would be a funny transition? It's so weird two scenes start with a yawning character.
Can you do the full version of this scene?
Ok
Silence is expensive XDXDXDXD
“Demolition, deconstruction and disposal of Isla Nublar facilities, organic and inorganic”
Yet they didnt do this with Isla Sorna.
They never should of killed Robert Maldoon. Idk why they did he didn’t die I’m the books
Donald Genaro death 36 million dollars
Robert muldoon death 16 million dollars
In the book they both survive. I don't know why they killed them off in the movie.
My point is apparently Gennaros life was worth more than Muldoons
Why did scene delete by Steven Spielberg ?
This isn’t a canon scene anyway
We're is Alan Grant lolol
Not the whole scene.
Thoose ppl sacraficed their lives themselves and their families just want their money but it is understandable i guess