Nice, large falcons are the reason I'm getting into falconry. My sponsor has had peregrines for a long time I'll ask him what he thinks about the differences in subspecies!
One caveat: As Clayton White explained - pretty much all the phenotypic variation seen across all subspecies, are also found within a single subspecies just varying frequency.
Ben, First let me say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to post these. I realize that they take a tremendous amount of your time and effort in collecting and editing footage. Time you could be out flying your birds. My question is what subspecies of eastern falcon is currently declared extinct? Is that both in the wild and captivity? I live here in the eastern U.S. and there seems to be some debate on this. Best Regards, Paul M.
Once again a great video! I have a question: many falconers told me that sakers are more suitable than preregrines for lure work, because they are more reliable, consistent and don't fly that high. Do you agree? Do you find that some specific falcons are more suitable than others for lure work? Thank you
Ben, would like to see something on the Black Shaheen (Falco peregrinus peregrinator). I've see a Red Naped Shaheen in action and they are impressive. The old British falconers in Indian spoke highly of the Black Shaheen but you don't hear of anyone in the states working with them.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the cassini, my pallid male seems to be coming along great. But he's my first big falcon so I don't have much to compare him to.
The two races of the Barbary Falcon, pelegrinoides and babylonicus, are often regarded as subspecies of F. peregrinus (Brown and Amadon 1968, Stresemann and Amadon 1979, Brown et al. 1982, del Hoyo et al. 1994), but many recent authors have followed Vaurie (1961), who treated them as a separate species. Birds breeding on the Canary Islands show haplotypes of both F. p. pelegrinoides and F. peregrinus brookei, according to a preliminary study carried out on Fuerteventura Island (Amengual et al. 1996). Wink et al. (2000) also found low genetic variation (
Great video. Can you send a link to your sticky footed video. In my experience Anatum’s are definitely more puppy dog like. Very tame, almost too tame. Even chamber birds can become imprint like, often bonding so much with the falconer they start to scream if not hunted constantly. Where as like you said the Peales is much bigger and can be more aggressive. Especially towards the falconer. It’s been said that if you’re a Goshawker a Peales is almost as crazy as a goshawk. Where as an Anatum is more like a red tail as far as tameness. Both are worthy falconry birds. But the Peales takes a while longer to mature and really get going. Where the Anatum has more migratory pressure so they must mature quickly and so it’s much easier to be successful hunting them right off the bat. Same with Cassini, Fijian, or Macropus. Not a lot of migratory pressure so they mature very slowly. My Peales is nearing the end of the second season and is still in play mode. But that’s my fault 😂
I'll believe when I see it golden eagle can dive 200 I think the ferrginouse hawk is incompleat classed and the speed and consersey is becuse of third eagle and hawk eagle speed exceeds peregrine is why.
What there saying is being a master falconer a future licenced and building don't haft to go down and leaders removed and new system is needed becuse freedom don't work
The blue in peregrine is really bear lake when you aprouch bear from distance it glows blue flat erea alout sky.ans you can from far a very beatiful thats way im hated in tennesee be careful its unforgivable to foren canadain defence
The sooty wings are long for it body not as fast if you ever after a stoop touch the birds feathers there hot after stoop alowed to cool of on kill not from physical strain by time the air from the body reaches the wings tips the air is to cold to generat 240 mph same with gyr terminal volosity air restence reach the weight of the object later in heavyer bird but heat friction isn't generated its way bullets are so fast there red hot very small and melted in the air like hot rocks ok is why sooty isnt as fast as pergrine becuse of heat for vortex.heat is why 200 mph yoyr can catch on fire.
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Nice, large falcons are the reason I'm getting into falconry. My sponsor has had peregrines for a long time I'll ask him what he thinks about the differences in subspecies!
Great info. An Anatum is a bucket list bird. How about a video on Saker vs. Goshawk for a level flight waterfowl and upland game hunting?
Great video Ben! Do you have any footage/photos of a Peales Peregrine on a Canada Goose?
One caveat: As Clayton White explained - pretty much all the phenotypic variation seen across all subspecies, are also found within a single subspecies just varying frequency.
Very interesting Ben. As always.
Wow, those young, black Peales look really cool! I wish I could have a Anatum, though. lol. Thanks for your knowledge & comparison insights! 😊
Ben, First let me say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to post these. I realize that they take a tremendous amount of your time and effort in collecting and editing footage. Time you could be out flying your birds.
My question is what subspecies of eastern falcon is currently declared extinct? Is that both in the wild and captivity? I live here in the eastern U.S. and there seems to be some debate on this.
Best Regards,
Paul M.
It is an anatum, it is not extinct
Absolutely fabulous to watch
Once again a great video! I have a question: many falconers told me that sakers are more suitable than preregrines for lure work, because they are more reliable, consistent and don't fly that high. Do you agree? Do you find that some specific falcons are more suitable than others for lure work? Thank you
Ben, would like to see something on the Black Shaheen (Falco peregrinus peregrinator). I've see a Red Naped Shaheen in action and they are impressive. The old British falconers in Indian spoke highly of the Black Shaheen but you don't hear of anyone in the states working with them.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the cassini, my pallid male seems to be coming along great. But he's my first big falcon so I don't have much to compare him to.
Imagine a hybrid of a Black Shaheen and a Peale
The two races of the Barbary Falcon, pelegrinoides and babylonicus, are often regarded as subspecies of F. peregrinus (Brown and Amadon 1968, Stresemann and Amadon 1979, Brown et al. 1982, del Hoyo et al. 1994), but many recent authors have followed Vaurie (1961), who treated them as a separate species. Birds breeding on the Canary Islands show haplotypes of both F. p. pelegrinoides and F. peregrinus brookei, according to a preliminary study carried out on Fuerteventura Island (Amengual et al. 1996).
Wink et al. (2000) also found low genetic variation (
It's beautiful. 2022 It's like this falcon sold in Libya for $1000000.
I have an older Peale's peregrine
The wind cools it down so in Utah in the winter dead winter is like to conduct a speed test with a pergrine peals of inprinted and get the 320mph.
Interesting as always, do you have a contact email? I have a particular question that I’m hoping you could help me with.
Great video. Can you send a link to your sticky footed video.
In my experience Anatum’s are definitely more puppy dog like. Very tame, almost too tame. Even chamber birds can become imprint like, often bonding so much with the falconer they start to scream if not hunted constantly. Where as like you said the Peales is much bigger and can be more aggressive. Especially towards the falconer. It’s been said that if you’re a Goshawker a Peales is almost as crazy as a goshawk. Where as an Anatum is more like a red tail as far as tameness. Both are worthy falconry birds. But the Peales takes a while longer to mature and really get going. Where the Anatum has more migratory pressure so they must mature quickly and so it’s much easier to be successful hunting them right off the bat. Same with Cassini, Fijian, or Macropus. Not a lot of migratory pressure so they mature very slowly. My Peales is nearing the end of the second season and is still in play mode. But that’s my fault 😂
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I had never thought of it in terms of migratory behavior being such a major behavior influencer. But you are so right! That makes complete sense!!!
Think what you think and go with what you know.
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Some one took a duck with a kestrel pergrine hybrid They get muduim sized.
And both types have a favright color and some things in life are strange
That peregrine in Utah deplayed the same behavior as prairie Falcon like always going some where from hunting rodents.
I'll believe when I see it golden eagle can dive 200 I think the ferrginouse hawk is incompleat classed and the speed and consersey is becuse of third eagle and hawk eagle speed exceeds peregrine is why.
The key to being the master of peals is American kestrel not possable with out kestrel whitch dosnt applie to anatum at all.
What there saying is being a master falconer a future licenced and building don't haft to go down and leaders removed and new system is needed becuse freedom don't work
These type of people talerate my presence and these type don't at all and they don't like eachother
The blue in peregrine is really bear lake when you aprouch bear from distance it glows blue flat erea alout sky.ans you can from far a very beatiful thats way im hated in tennesee be careful its unforgivable to foren canadain defence
Peals and anotume dont get along becuse of antume peals are more ageessive but not as tertoral.
The sooty wings are long for it body not as fast if you ever after a stoop touch the birds feathers there hot after stoop alowed to cool of on kill not from physical strain by time the air from the body reaches the wings tips the air is to cold to generat 240 mph same with gyr terminal volosity air restence reach the weight of the object later in heavyer bird but heat friction isn't generated its way bullets are so fast there red hot very small and melted in the air like hot rocks ok is why sooty isnt as fast as pergrine becuse of heat for vortex.heat is why 200 mph yoyr can catch on fire.
Over kill.
Yes i own peals sperm master p to make hudreds of peryan falcons.
Color blind cow boy im proud to be an ametican 8m the white stripe if you brake it down bone thugs.