Coincidentally, a few days ago I met an ex work colleague of mine. He had just celebrated his 35th wedding anniversary. His 30 year old daughter gave as a gift a 23 and me test for all three of them. It turned out that his daughter wasn't his. His wife had slept with another man while on holiday. He is now in the process of divorcing his wife. His wife said it was so long ago, but for him it was only last week. But he said that his daughter remains his daughter.
I feel for your friend and his daughter. This revelation has to be very difficult for both of them, but it doesn’t change that she is his daughter and the love they have for each other. I wish them the very best. Thank you for sharing their story.
Yeah, these people are so ignorant. "It happened so long ago!!" Uuuuhhhh no. Since u decided to lie and keep it secret, I just found out. So, to me, it literally just happened the moment I found out
By ten years, that’s your kid. Period. There are states where if you’re legally married, you’re legally the father of any child your wife births anyway.
Her: "Will you give me another chance?" Him: "Sure! Here is your phone. Call the actual father and find out if he wants to take you and the baby. I am out of here."
That's about as hardcore as you can get. She showed him absolutely no respect by getting it on with the ex in his own home. No man or should I say a real man can ever forgive that betrayal.
The guy handled it like a boss. He kept the pressure on her to tell him until she cracked and told him the whole story. Good on him for standing his ground.
I want mandatory DNA tests for 2 reasons. 1: To establish that my partner and I are the biological parents. 2: To be prepared if the child has any genetic related illnesses, if one of us is a carrier of that gene.
0a: Because women can cheat and you don't want to be caring for someone else's child or wasting years of your life with a cheater when you could be spending it with someone else and raising your own child. 0b: For women, it is unfortunately necessary in 2023 to be sure your husband/SO knows that it is his child because of the not insignificant chance that it is someone else's.
The reason it is not law is because the government does not want to take care of single moms. They don’t care who the father is. They just want to strap the responsibility of child care on a guy. Be it taking care of the child, or child support. Also the courts collect money when child support is paid so they will do anything to strap a guy with it.
@@DarthSoto78 How the injustice towards cuckolded men is enforced, is by following the law. Laws are often put in place to suit the government, rather than the people they are supposed to serve.
@@tweakypoppy I know. I'm just saying Mandatory DNA test will never become law because the government loses too much money if there are not men to pay for Chad spawn. Men have to ask for them.
@@arianebolt1575 Men and women equally use the possessive term "my" before any words referring ti their romantic partner. Do you have a problem with that?
@@virtual-viking The only problem I see here is you feeling the need to respond to her stupidity. She should have just let her converse with her self so she could experience how important she is outside her eco chamber. Unless she's 12yrs old, she knew exactly what you meant.
It's for stability of the child. Most other women have the maternal concern to make sure the child has a stable environment, paternity be damned. Still though, hell no!
Of course. She doesn't want to raise and pay for the kid. She doesn't want to be labeled as the mother of a cheating single mom. She doesn't want her granddaughter growing up in a single mother household -- she knows how bad that is. She doesn't want her daughter and granddaughter living in poverty, jumping between stepdads or boyfriends, etc., etc. So, she tries the best chance to avoiding bad consequences -- because there's no consequences. Her husband isn't going to divorce her, her reputation isn't going to suffer, etc. Why not? If OP agreed, good. If he keeps saying "No", nothing lost. Logically, it makes sense. The only way to avoid terrible outcomes to daughter and granddaughter is for some fool to step forward and be with her, accept the financial responsibility, try to keep daughter in-line, raise the kid, etc., etc. and OP is there, used to love her daughter, etc. It used to be parents of a mom who tried baby-trapping used to suffer some penalties -- kicked out of church, fired, relatives stopped coming by, girlfriends shunned her, etc. Not anymore.
@@humansvd3269 If she truly wanted "stability" for the child, she would have had a child with her fiancée and not some dead beat "dude" of an ex-boyfriend that doesn't want to be the father. The daughter's mother should be calling up her ex-boyfriend and asking him to marry her daughter. He's the one that knocked her up.
I worked with several guys that had similar stories. One of the guys ended up blowing his brains out in a shopping center parking lot and another guy just excepted the child as his own. I still see the guy who excepted his wife's affair baby and he looks miserable. Just looks like a defeated man.
Oh God ... why on this earth we men want to go down this path with so much stacked against us? I have been fortunate enough with none of these complications and still my heart is pounding just reading it.
Something similar happened to me many years ago. A woman I was dating told me that she was twelve weeks pregnant. The problem is that I had only been dating her for nine weeks.
"I was unfaithful but want you to be the baby's father." I got dumber just by reading that statement. She was willingly asking him to father a child that wasn't even his and is shocked when he chooses to leave her. Her mother wasn't any better by asking him to reconsider and give her daughter another chance. Probably a cheater as well.
She was probably proud of her daughter for baby trapping the man with income with someone else's child. Well, until it was too obvious that it wasn't his.
And it would have worked if she was schlepping around with someone with similar features. HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! 37% of the time, according to statistics
paternity fraud is disgustingly and embarassingly high statistically according to a lawyers comments i have seen before. It's the nasty side of female nature. A lot of them will trap a man to raise a kid because they really desired the genetics of another man. Nature is fucked up and not everyone is moral to rise above base animal nature. A lot of women waste their youth and can't lock down men they really want to be with and will end up with some chump who thinks he has won his darling prize only she absolutely settles for anyone at that point out of desperation. A lot of men are blind to this reality, they think they just randomly become studs somehow. No. If women have never chased you in your life and they suddenly see you as a prize its probably for a reason you don't want.
@@jorgeespinoza3150 "...can you say... stank ho?" That's a favorite line of mine from Deliver Us from Eva. In all seriousness, women have gotten away with this for millennia and now they should be vilified on the spot. The bill comes due immediately. It should be standard.
My wife and I were once discussing this topic and I “joked” about a paternity test. Without hesitation, she said “Do it! They’re yours. I got nothing to hide.” She didn’t feel degraded, unloved or project I was cheating, which is just a tactic women use to try to shame men into not taking a test. Had she got even the slightest bit defensive, I would have tested all of them.
I think the reason most women are upset at the request to do a paternity test is that it implies that the man thinks they are unfaithful when they have not and would not cheat. It kills relationships because the woman feels unloved and degraded by the suggestion she would cheat and probably wonders if the man is cheating and thus projecting. If tests were mandatory for every pregnancy then the implication of unfaithfulness is removed and it's the system that requires it and not the potential father doubting his partner. I think testing every pregnancy is a good idea.
@@chula686 yes I agree. When I had my kids (1994 and 2002) people who had had a HIV test were looked down on especially by insurance companies but I had a HIV test as a routine part of testing when pregnant. It took quite some arguing with insurance companies to make them understand it was routine and not because I had a risky lifestyle. I understand they are much less judgemental now! I think paternity testing every pregnancy would cause some controversy to start with but would soon just become routine.
Unfortunately the system we have now prefers to have a ready made "responsible party" in case there ever turns out to be a need to force child support on someone. They are not interested in trying to track someone down to be the responsible party if a test shows the father is someone other than who the woman originally claimed. They don't really care who the father is as long as a man - any man - is on the hook for the child support.
@@chula686they get tested for things that could complicate or endanger the pregnancy. This is not a test that has any impact on the baby’s growth and development.
There’s really no need for a federal law. If you get to know the person you’re going to have sex with, and then make sure you’re protected until you know them even better than THAT, you should be okay. If not, wait until birth. This story makes no sense for about a million reasons, because it didn’t actually happen. In the vast majority of cases, a DNA test can wait until birth. It should stay elective. It goes both ways when you say something like “it shouldn’t be a problem if you aren’t cheating”. If you find yourself in a situation where you need a DNA test pre-birth, then you need to start re-evaluating your own process of partner selecting.
@@sparkeymcmurphy Even if this particular story isn't true, paternity fraud is real. You have no idea how many men are victims of paternity fraud, and it destroys people. Also, many people are very skilled at hiding who they are. You can know someone for a long time and still have this happen to you. When it's done, it's devastating to the person wronged. Check out a RUclipsr by the name of Strong Sucessful Male. He goes over many stories from men that are subscribers where they write about their experiences with paternity fraud. You can't tell me that all those stories are made up. Finally, what you said about re-evaluating your process of partner selection removes all accountability on the cheating partner.
It's coming in some places, but the fact that the news that it's coming has the typical twitter and tiktok thots are freaking out about it says all you need to know about how much loyalty there is in these modern 'enlightened' tinder using girls.
That 33% may actually be higher/lower. It's 33% of babies that were tested because of child support. We have no idea if the ones that aren't tested are actually the biological father's.
@@gregs2143 Definitely closer to 70% or higher. Women are excellent liars and cheat just as much, if not even more so than men do. They're usually just better at being sneaky and lying.
@@gregs2143 I believe it. Sadly not surprised by this. Women have been entitled and NEVER held accountable for far too long, as well as feminism is why most women belong to the streets. I'm glad to see more men waking up to this
The pill is roughly 91% effective. "Is something wrong? Whose else would it be?" She's still trying to lie instead of owning up to her "mistake." But not really a "mistake" since she had choices. The marriage is off. Tell her to go run to her baby daddy ex
@@norbertschultz6233 the passing the other man's child as his wasn't the mistake, That was just plain stupid & wrong on countless levels Having the affair in the first place was one of the mistakes she made, though pretty obvious she allowed it to happen. Don't know what else to call it, at the time, but 'mistake' stupidity definitely.
Paternity tests should be Mandatory for ALL Births whether before during of after rather then wait years later and then have families and relationships crushed. This is Beyond Despicable and the guy shouldn't have helped with the Nursey stuff instead should have taken it back to get some of his money back.
They should be mandatory when the hospitalfills out the birth certificate, but I understand why they are not. The presumptive father will be paying for the child without a test, instead of possibly the government having to pay for that child. Why would the government volunteer something that potentially costs them money.
I heard of a case where they did a paternity test and found out the baby wasn't either the mothers nor the fathers. The baby was switched from birth. This followed a huge law suit against the hospital. It was insane.
To the streets... she really tried to have him raise her affair child. She's about to learn a hard lesson in single parenting, but she has no one to blame but herself.
Man, that is a real slap in the face. I am sorry the guy had to find out this way, or any way. But it is great that all this happened and the truth is out before marriage.
"If women have nothing to worry about, then they should have no problem taking the test." Oh, you know that they can't be logical about it. They will get all up in their feelings. The woman before the test: "You don't trust me!" The woman after the test proves the man is the father: "See? I told you were the father! How dare you doubt it!" The whole trust issue will hang like a cloud over the relationship from then on. If the test is mandatory, then this would not be a problem. I think it should be mandatory, but good luck on that dream. The government isn't going to push for it, because they want the man to be financially responsible regardless of who the father really is.
So, you don’t expect to be trusted in your relationship? Are you the same type of guy that would freak out if your girl checked your phone behind your back? Or would that be cool?
Also, there’s no need for it to be mandatory, per your own comment. In order to be financially held responsible, you have to have a DNA test after the fact. The court will order one the second you file for support.
Imagine being that girls parents. Daughter is out of the house and they are looking forward to a retirement of relaxation. Then they are introduced to Financial Burden the Second.
I'm sure the nurses and doctors responsible for deliveries could tell you quite a few stories like these from their own perspective. I bet they get very used to that "Ohhhhhh damn... here we go..." feeling.
@@jimmyboy131 those types of guys are usually very hard to get hold of and also they don't have a stable high earning job so they fall back on the sure guy.
Well, love and d*ck are two different things, its easy to love the wallet, while wanting the broke loser's big d*ck. And women are good at telling themself that they are doing absolutely nothing wrong.
She knew the baby was her ex, that's why she wanted to get married so quickly. How can you say you love someone and giving yourself to someone else, the ultimate betrayal in a relationship.
I feel for this guy, this story is devastating. Paternity test needs to be mandatory! The audacity of this girl to even ask that; she needs to be arrested on fraud.
As a woman I'm ashamed that so many other girls do this to their s.o. and claim they loved them: no, if you did, you wouldn't have cheated on them! Me and my fiancè discussed having kids many times and I immediately said I wanted both a paternity and a maternity test done as soon as the kid will be borne: there have been to many cases of children swapped at birth by carless nurses or husbands that were convinced by friends that the kids weren't theirs (one of my American friends divorced over this: her husband was disappointed the kids were all his because he was sure his friends were right and she was cheating) that I want all the peace of mind possible....Also, if you didn't do anything wrong, why don't you propose the test? I get some women might get offended if suddenly the partner asks for the test implying they thought the woman was cheating, that's a dealbreaker for me too, but if you ask for peace of mind, I don't see why not.
33% is recorded who know it may be 50% as your culture shows jumping from man to man cheating lying fake charges suporting terrorist rapist pedophile jihadis BLM antifaa goons then claims they are saints Even good cristian wives are cheating like hell and pedophile Padres are healing them
@@sparkeymcmurphy I'm not sure if you were really kidding/being sarcastic, but yes, sorry but I'm really a woman in my thirties. I guess my opinion on this matter depends on the fact that my parents drilled into me that honesty and loyalty are some of the best qualities a person can have. I might add that I'm not American so this can also explain why both me and my female friends have this opinion on dna tests and cheating...if something isn't right or the feelings change, it's better to close the chapter and move on, as hard as it might be.
I'd be suing for every dime I spent that was baby related, emotional suffering.I'd take them to the cleaners. And Mom and Dad both found out that their sweet precious princess is a Garden tool.
You will need $20,000 to just get started suing her. Thank goodness he was not married to her. When your married to her, the man is 100 % responsible for her bills. It not 50 50 like your told. Even if it's not his baby, he is still responsible financially. Family court favors the woman/ child everytime. If he was married, the courts throw the man out. She needs a place to raise that baby. Don't sign anything men.
That’s one of the MANY reasons this story is fiction. A normal person would return all the stuff, not move it there and sue later. You’d likely lose, too, because she can then say it was a gift.
I'm not sure why this video popped up visible to me this morning, but it is interesting that it did. About a week ago I caught a man I have known since he was just a baby. I have known his parents for years. He was looking dejected and was eating a salad and watching a game on TV at the place where he was. It had been a while since I last spoke to him and I took notice he was alone. I asked if I could join him and he said yes please sit. He went on to tell me he is in the process of getting divorced and his wife is fighting him on it. He is not going to lose much because he has no claim on the house and she makes as much as he does. This man is a craftsman that makes things by hand. He spent over 6 months making a baby bed and other things to furnish a nursery with only to discover after the child was born that it was not his. It was not a mixed-race issue, but after studying the child's face and hair color he knew she was not his. The mother so far has blocked all attempts to get DNA from the baby as of the last we spoke, but his Attorney has told him to stay calm at some point if she wants child support there will have to be DNA testing. Here is why he knows that baby is not his. His hair is a very dark shade of brown, almost black. Nobody in his family has high cheekbones that he knows of. His wife also has very dark hair and so does her parents. None of them have high cheekbones either. The baby has high cheekbones and has blonde hair. Guess what! His wife's boss has blonde hair and high cheekbones! He did move out of the home she lived in before their marriage and is staying in an apartment for now. He knows that his wife has added his name to the birth certificate and named the baby after his mother. Still won't allow him to be alone with the baby, but demands he step up and be a father. Folks, this BS MUST be stopped!
@@sparkeymcmurphy Men are capable of having multiple offspring from different spouses simultaneously and women aren't. It's in their biology to have multiple partners but not in women's biology. So when women 'cheat' they're literally going against god their creator
The only reason she pushed for marriage was to make sure he would be responsible for the child. In many states the husband is automatically the father even if there's proof of infidelity. She wanted to make sure she had her provider locked down. Then she tried to manipulate him by getting him to hold the child. I would've walked right out and told the nurses to NOT put my name on anything. At least his mom supported him instead of trying to make excuses for the woman.
@@humansvd3269 because she didn’t like how it made her feel. Read her comment on this video about how she would end a relationship immediately if even asked for a paternity test. According to her men don’t deserve security or peace of mind, that’s reserved for women like her.
i find it interesting that if the hospital mixes up the kids and the mother finds out the hospital usually pays half a million or more. if the woman does it the guy is lucky to get out of child support.
Good god this was devastating I feel for him. When my son was born it was the single most beautiful moment of my life. I couldn’t imagine his pain or even how he suffered.
Keep in mind 33% is not against the general population. These are self-selected cases where someone chose to do a test. This means that likely there was some suspicion of infidelity already. So if these numbers are close to 1 in 3, then the general population could be more like 1 in 10.
Agreed. The number of cases in the general population is probably much lower. So the number of people facing the heartache this man faced is relatively low. But in my state they had mandatory HIV testing before marriage, even though HIV affects a small minority of the population. So there is a precedent for such mandates.
@@John-oo8dn I talked to my husband and we think the least troublesome option is to DNA test for both parents after leaving hospital. Use the rationale that hospitals mix babies up and you don’t want that to happen. That is the most likely to ensure that you don’t lose your spouse and child. Because even if it’s your kid, if you didn’t agree on this ahead of time, your wife may leave and she will take your kid with her. You risk losing both
Paternity tests should be a requirement in every state before any man's name can be put on any birth certificate. A man should have to sign a waiver that he understands that the child is not his before he can sign it. I've actually considered approaching my state representative in my state about putting this law forward.
The old societal model was: A young woman would trade her youth and fertility exclusively to only one man, and he in turn would be the workhorse and take care of her when she gets past her prime. This was a great incentive for men to work, become men, and get married. You got a prize, a young beautiful loyal wife. In theory, as we know life isn't perfect. She does him a favor early on by being a virgin/exclusive and later he does her a favor by staying and supporting her instead of leaving her for a younger woman. They both get a prize. The new societal model is: Women whore around and waste their youth and fertility on Chad/Tyrone, get walled out, get STDs, lose their ability to pair bond, rapidly accelerate their aging process with excessive alcohol and fast food, and have no loyalty to any man. What sensible man would pay top dollar for something 30 other men got for free? The incentive for men is gone. You don't get a prize anymore. You get a parasite with an entitlement mentality that’s looking to take your resources and then some. Before you even say “I do” at the altar, she’s already plotting how to financially grape your ace in family court after she locks you in with at least one kid, a mortgage, and then divorces your sorry ace a few years later. Why do you think she’s smiling as she’s walking down the aisle? Wouldn’t you if you got to keep the house, the kids, all the cash and prizes, and she’s paying for it all? Men get divorced to get rid of something. Women get divorced to get something. A woman’s main reason for getting married is to get a divorce. Most women are cold, cruel, predatory animals with no conscience. A woman who marries for money will complain about love. A woman who marries for love will complain about money. A woman who has both will find something else to complain about. Apparently the worst thing a woman can experience is being married to a man who loves her. A man's seexual drive is used to lure him into signing a one-sided lifetime contract with a parasitic woman with penalties for leaving. She gets to keep all the cash and prizes and can break the contract at any time, for any reason, lie under oath, and suffer no penalties. In fact, she is rewarded. There is no wisdom in signing a contract with someone who benefits from breaking it. A man is not going to invest in somebody that at best laughs at him or at worst hates him and blames him for everything. You're expected to pay a premium price for a used up, beaten up, tatted up, parasitic leach. Who is an ungrateful, self-consumed, easily offended, fat, ugly, aggressive biitch on wheels, with a masculine demeanor, and an entitlement mentality. A soulless woman from the bargain basement bins of some store in the hood with the morals of an alley cat. An in denial, freak of nature, pathologically delusional, self-esteem deficient, morally bankrupt, bottom dwelling, blood sucking, inhuman, creature of the night, spawned from the seed of Satan. A true boil on the buttocks of the world. When she dies, the last living reminder of helll will be gone from the face of the earth. She has kids from Chad/Tyrone or both, personal credit card debt, no assets, school debt for a worthless degree in liberal arts, Greek Mythology, or gender studies. No cooking skills and no desire to learn any, no fiscal responsibility, an overly banged vagina, and a pet you’ll be expected to take care of as well. And you're supposed to be happy about this opportunity to lick up the scraps from the floor. The so-called good men she wants and can’t find are out there. They just don’t want her at the table because she has nothing to bring except financial and emotional pain. When women say, "Men are only after one thing". Meaning seex. My question to them is, do you have anything else to offer? Crickets is all I hear. Which means even they don't believe they have anything else to offer. In addition, she also has great expectations you’ll do everything for her, make her feel better, and provide an unrealistic unsustainable lifestyle she feels she deserves because she read about it some feminazi magazine article that hates men. All this while she cheats behind your back with the “bad boys” she’s always really wanted all along, while you’re at work paying all the bills to feed this little parasite. Women don’t “love men”, they love what men can do for them. Where are all the great works of art female artists have created, inspired by their love of men? Men are not afraid of commitment or marriage…. Men are afraid of getting divorce graped in “family court.” It’s just a bad deal all the way around for men and a crap shoot at best. There’s nothing in it for men except the chance to be financially ruined for the rest of your life. If you were thinking of going skydiving and knew that three out of four parachutes failed, and you had already watched your friends jump, some successfully, others not so. Would you be willing to take the chance that you're going to be the exception and get the one parachute out of the four that is going to work?......... I mean they all look so pretty and smell so good and feel so soft to the touch and they are offering you the thrill of a lifetime if you would just let one of them wrap itself around you and make that commitment to attach yourself to it and jump...... would you still take that chance? But… but…. Look how pretty the parachutes are, smell their lovely fragrance, touch and feel how soft they feel, they beckon you to try one of them on, please try me on and let me wrap myself tightly around you and see how good I feel to you, I’ll hold on tight and snug to you, I am not like the others, honest I am different, I’ll work. Well….. would you do it? Would you take that chance for the thrill of a lifetime? Yea, that sounds like a good deal if I were a moron, is this the line I stand in to lose half my sheet? Good luck with that. Men are waking up and realizing this system is defective and toxic. Women's seexual liberation, femiinism and the birth control pill, have ironically dis-empowered women. They are throwaway seexual objects now more than ever. "Femiinism did NOT free women from the chains they thought they had. It freed MEN from the chains they had no idea were there." ~ Arch Stanton ~
@@gjohn338 I understand and thank you for taking the time to read it all. My goal is to help others to avoid getting into a bad situation. I put a lot of stuff in there because I am in my sixties and I've got a lot of experience to share. The comment you are referring to, originally started out as small little separate comments that I would post here and there, and then one day I got the brilliant idea that I might be able to link them all together as one long comment and this is the result and it is still continually changing and evolving to keep up with current times. This whole comment is a cumulation of years of watching and listening to others and learning from their mistakes, reading, listening to seminars, and of course my own personal experiences in life. The places I’ve been, the things I’ve done, and the people I’ve met. I am older now and have had a good life. I was M.G.T.O.W. way back when I was in my late teens and early twenties. I just didn’t know it and there was no term like M.G.T.O.W. for it. By the way, the music of the sixties was great! I learned early on in life not to listen to or trust women. I saw other men that had gotten married, lived to regret it, and curse the day they ever got married, and little did they know, the fun for them was only just beginning. Soon they would be falsely accused of assaulting their wives, seexually assaulting their own children, and then slapped with a restraining order and now they could only see their children under state supervision. Try getting a job or a place to live with that on your record. Oh, but wait, there’s more, the fun doesn’t just stop there. It just keeps getting even better with each passing day. Next, they get financially raped in the corrupt, unethical, immoral, dishonest, crooked, and shady at best “family court system” by a vengeful, hateful, vindictive lying, parasitic, shrew of a woman that used to be their wife. The woman you marry, is not the same woman you divorce. So, these poor slobs are left alone to cry in their coffee, driving an old rust bucket of a car because that’s all they could afford, his ex-wife gets rewarded for her poor behavior and gets all the cash and prizes. She gets to keep the nice “new” S.U.V. she convinced him to buy while they were still “happily married”, all the time knowing full well she was going to soon divorce his sorry ace and keep it. He is living in some small one room apartment, while his ex-wife is living in the house he is still paying for, she got custody of the children, turned his own children against him, “coached” them to lie about him in court, while he pays child support and vaginamoney to this parasite, she installs her new “boyfriend” in his house….. and it only gets worse from there. Getting attached to women only leads to emotional pain and financial ruin. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule…… but that still doesn’t change the rule. It’s the exception that proves the rule. There’s no wisdom in signing a contract with someone who benefits from breaking it. Now, look at this poor guy. What women is going to want to date or have anything to do with a man that is broke, looks like he’s been pulled backwards through a horse’s ass, and has a vindictive ex-wife coming at him like a heat seeking missile? I was blessed with a good position in life and didn’t have to work very hard to get girls/women. Women liked being around me and to be seen with me and the guys liked hanging around with me because it increased their chances of “getting laid”. I knew the women didn’t necessarily like “me”, they liked being seen with me, they liked the thought of other woman envying them for being seen with me, they liked the thought of having access to my resources, they liked the thought of marrying my lifestyle and hooking me to them for life with a kid. Who I was, was just coincidental to them. They wanted access to my resources. Many a woman has asked me to marry her and I don’t regret a one I turned down. I do regret the two I did marry, but I fortunately did not have any children with either of them, was only married three years to my first wife and one year to my second wife. Did not get financially ruined cause I saw my mistake early on and got out before we had children and bought a house together. Although they both lobbied very hard to have children, I was able to put them off. I purposely did not purchase a house or accumulated much property because after I signed on the “dotted marriage line” I noticed a slight change in their attitude and not for the better. I suspected things might be going south and I was right. Both marriages eventually ended in a divorce. I got a vasectomy at age forty and never married again. When I dated, I dated from a position of power and I didn’t have to take any sh!t from any women and I wasn’t afraid to tell them to hit the road and they knew I would do it. That threat has to absolutely be on the table at all times. I had a reputation for not taking any sh!t and had already demonstrated my willingness to retire beetchy women in past relationships. If they became beetchy, controlling, or in general just not fun to be around…… at that point, they had reached their expiration date, I didn’t need them, and their phone stopped ringing. What is the point of dating someone if she isn’t fun to be around? These things are supposed to make your life better. There was always another one waiting in line to take her place. It was that simple, no fights, no arguments…. It just went silent. It’s been nice, I am sorry but it’s just not working out. I hope you find someone else more deserving of you… (to take your sheet) I never told them they couldn’t do this, or they couldn’t do that, but if they weren’t bringing seex to the table, well then, why are you even here? I can get everything else I need from my friends and a dog. They were always free to do and say whatever they wanted to and they were always free to leave at any time. My only job was to decide if I was willing to keep them around and put up with their behavior. If I didn’t like something they were doing, I would put them on notice that if it continued, we would no longer be dating and in that case, they were free to see other men with my blessing. Sometimes I would even recommend other guys I thought they might be more compatible with. Even today as an older man, I can still turn heads when I walk into a room. The reason you might see this comment posted around is because I want as many men as possible to see it and to help those coming after me to avoid falling into these female traps and dream killers. I’ve never let any female stop me from pursuing my goals and dreams. If they don’t support my dreams and goals, they get left behind. In this world you either lead, follow, or get out of the way. As I have with others who have asked my permission to copy and paste this comment….. I extend the same to you. You have my permission and blessing to copy, paste, and spread the word.
@@sharonwheat3659 You have misread me my delicate little flower. I love women and enjoy the company of a good woman. I just don't take any sh!t from them either. I am not a doormat. I don't have a scarcity mentality and with confidence know there is always another one standing in line to take her place if she becomes b!tchy, complaining, controlling, problematic, disrespectful, or in general just isn't any fun to be around anymore. At that point she has reached her expiration date and her phone stops ringing. I am not married to her, so she can leave anytime she wants with my best wishes and when she leaves she takes nothing. I get to keep my house, car, savings, retirement.... I treat all women with the respect they deserve.
This is the worst you can do to a man. Not only he found out that his „lovely woman“ had cheated on him he also found out that he will not become a father and that he lost his „love“. All in one moment! Also the brutal flip of emotions. From „King of the world“ to „my worst nightmare came true“. I cannot imagine how this guy felt. I‘m really sorry for him.
I also agree, tests should be mandatory but for birthright and family history. A history of blood should be recorded and known who you are related to. It should be a standard not for mainly to see if the persons cheating but for birth certificates. Everyone should and has a right to know where they come from and not lied to their whole life. Also if a man is paying for a kid that’s not his he has a right to know. Nobody likes being tricked or cheated and I think it’s a serious crime.
I honestly believe that every child should have a paternity and maternity test when they are born unless they are adopted at birth. These tests should be as frequent as a birth certificate.
The suffering of that dude after leaving the building and thinking dirty deeds began in his apartment, his bed. These orbiting ex's seem to pop up and continue relations any time they like.
Did an prenatal, and one post birth when my son was 3 months old. The post birth was for extra peace of mind, and was a fraction of the cost of prenatal.
To add, I was technically the “other man” had no clue during. Spoke with the boyfriend and he was an absolute loser. I’m grateful for my son, and grateful that guy wasn’t the father. Even with the rough circumstances, I love my son more than anything.
@@sparkeymcmurphy They do a simple prenatal arm blood draw on the pregnant mother which they are against. What decent man would just take the word of the mother and say oh ok, if you say so I'm bio baby daddy..Thankfully men are waking up to deceit
When dating a woman let her know by the third date your terms to continue into a relationship. 1. Zero Tolerance For Cheating 2. Open Phone Policy 3. If she becomes pregnant pre birth paternity test 4. If they get married a prenup a week after getting engaged
I investigated a woman I used to know for the short time I knew her: Turns out that she jumped on the carousel at 15, weed by 16, ciggies by 19, coke by 21, met the loser that introduced her to Meth at 29/30, Got pregnant by the same loser by 36, lost custody of her 5y/o kid(Struck the kid and drugs). Which means she was using while carrying the child🤯🤯🤯🤯 and split from baby daddy at 41, FINALLY quit Coke & Meth by 42, diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer at 43(and still smoking weed & ciggies 2+yrs after her diagnosis), She's 45 now, Broke, living alone with 2 cats, working a dead end job full time, and owes $30+k in lawyer fees. She's 5'4", 215lbs, rapidly graying hair, horrible complexion with new wrinkles coming in everyday, legs & ass lumpier than cottage cheese and full of cellulite, scars all over her body(including track marks) And she still believes she can get any guy she wants😆😆😆 not only does she carry tons of baggage and trauma, but also her brain is all sorts of messed up from all the yrs. of chronic drug abuse!! I'm sure she's developed quite a few personality disorders from her high body count including CPTSD from her 2 bouts of homelessness each lasting roughly a yr.!! Not to mention her masculine attitude(strong, independent, & brave🙄), and her mouth!! Talk about f#cking up your life beyond repair!!! The moment I found out about all this $hit, I ghosted her, And NEVER looked back!! Good thing I found out early enough to escape unscathed!! Lesson Learned!! Do not even become friends with single moms!!
Thank you. That was an eye opener and a great lesson which i will never forget and let my gourd Down. Know that i learned that Fantastic helpful lesson, I thank you deep down from my Hearth for that advise you gave Me. Thanks Gd And T,,Care John.
I just got your sound in my pocket I am at the comment I made a mini golden California they say that there’s 50 to 70% of the men this raising children in their marriages don’t belong to them but I mean I mean from birth so they don’t need it for checking out their wives forget about checking out the man he don’t have children and wife the wife and kids the babies my God I don’t think so or not but there’s something wrong with that percentage they should be like one percent I can’t people like I don’t know I don’t know what to say but check it out in supreme right now if that’s what I think I heard a few weeks ago so I’m going to take a test in Cuesta near my God I just totally disgraceful
I'm in my early 60's, my wife passed away 5 years ago. I met a girl younger that my own daughter and we became very close to the point she wanted to have a baby with me. I told her I had the snip in my early 40's, so off to the doctor I went to get it reversed. The booking was 3 months away. Before the snip reversal, I came home and she showed me the pregnancy test she took which was positive, she was so happy, but I told her I wanted a DNA test, and to my surprise she agreed 100%. 7 months into the pregnancy the DNA test was performed. The baby was mine. We since had another one (yep DNA tested). In both instances when I asked her for a DNA test, she never flinched and even enjoyed the challenge stating, "I told you so". She is AWESOME
Had a related convo with an ex in 2017 after a heated discussion with friends. "If I told you I was pregnant, would you want a DNA test?" I said, "Do I look like an idiot?" She got a smug look on her face until I finished, "Of course I'd want a DNA test. As soon as it was feasible!". She got all huffy, "You don't trust me?". I just said, "You're a woman so NOPE". Just as men are capable of the most heinous acts of violence, so are women capable of the most heinous acts of deceit. And they're anything BUT apologetic. This guy handled it like a BOSS.
@@findyouralpha I have been listening to those stories on other channels as well. You retelling those stories is different and much more entertaining. I like your style (not just story - telling).
We had that fetal blood/cell dna test done. They can also identify the gender this way (why we had it done). It's funny about the paternity issue. I have a VERY unique nose (from profile view). It's not ugly or anything just unique. When my wife and I were at the ultrasound the profile view of my son showed an exact tiny copy of my nose and my wife and I just both burst out laughing. The nurse turned to us confused and I laughed and turned my head then SHE burst out laughing.
The fact that she was willing to throw herself into the arms of Chad and not only got pregnant but keep it a secret from her now ex fiancée is just madding why not just communicate that you want to end it. But, she want to have her cake and eat it too.
But she didn't want to end it. She wanted OPs income while getting d*ck from the ex (among others, I presume) on the side. And doesn't think that there could be anything wrong in that.
I am going to speak from experience here. Don't ever marry a woman/man with kids, even if the child is an infant and you raise them and never have a bad relationship with them because sooner or later every stepparent WILL hear this same statement from the said child. "You are NOT my father/mother" even if it takes 20/30yrs you WILL hear it.
I mean… I trained young boys to box, and many of them didn’t have fathers in the home or around at all. I dated a girl with kids and I get on great with the kids. She and I didn’t work out but we’re still friends and I still get the kids birthday and Christmas presents. Their father is a bit of an abusive asshole and her son still tells me that he wishes I was his dad. I do want kids of my own one day, but I don’t know if I can ever trust someone to be my partner.
Humans are one of only a few spieces where the females ovulation is hidden, ie neither the female nor any male knows when she ovulates and is prime for impregnation. There has to be good evolutionary benefits for this to exist. One part is that hidden ovulation encourages a male to remain close to his female and mate regularly in hope that he will eventually seed her at the right time. Human females benefit greatly by the male remaining close for long periods as we have a long gestation period... there is the 9 months in the womb and effectively another 9 months outside the womb before the baby becomes more independent - like most babies of other spieces are by the time of birth. This is due to the requirements of developing our big brains. However, there is another factor, linked to the need for human females to have a personal male support. Most males have a low sexual value, with only a small percentage being worthy of contributing to the gene pool of the next generation. Hidden ovulation enables a female to have a pair-bonded mate, plus sneak off to get the seed of a high sexual value man. Obviously the high value man can not provide support for all the females around him (unless he is a king), but the female's time of impregnation is unknown so she can pass off the pregnancy to her lower value pair-bonded mate as being his. The story here simply demonstrates this. She has a high sexual value ex-bf but has taken on a lower valued man as her pair-bond because he has good value for resource support and protection. The OP unfortunately does not know enough about woman to demand a full accounting of his fiancee's arrangements with her ex-bf. It would seem that despite all the years he spent with her, he failed to learn that her ex- bf was hispanic.... since he did not simply accuse his fiancee of being impregnated by her ex-bf. If he did know more, it would probably help him understand how she never had regard for him as a high sexual value man and he would realise he should always check for this in future relationships. Perhaps it is detail that he thought too trivial to report in his story, but the fact that she bought the ex-bf to THEIR apartment (and presumably, THEIR bed) is telling and he should have thrown that in her face. That was a behaviour proving her total disrespect for and her lack of interest in OP. The ex-bf was visiting the area and presumably had a place to stay, at the very least they could have got a room somewhere. How did she know he was visiting.... because they had communicated prior. She knew he was coming, she may well have arranged it, they may well have been arranging these meets quite regularly, which is likely as indicated by meeting at her fiancees apartment. The costs of regularly getting a room is high but meeting at the apartment is high risk of being discovered. She most certainly would have been extremely excited while thinking about his visit. My guess is that even if she was legit on the pill, her level of excitement about her high sexual value man mating with her again may well have over ridden the effects of the pill, or perhaps she was so excited she vomitted the pill at some point. The stat about 33% of tested babies being not of the expected father is surprising in that these are mostly tests where a father has doubts about his paternity.... it means that 67% of suspicious cases there was no cuckoo in the nest! Doctors have known since long before DNA was even known about that some 20% of babies were never sired by the expected father, just from eye-colour/skin tones/ear-lobe/scalp shape etc. And that's just the observable traits.
Sorry but you are wrong. The Catholic Faith doesn’t believe in use of birth control but they do teach young couples how to determine when the wife could get pregnant by sampling her vaginal secretions.
I noticed the fact they hooked up on his apartment too. That was a clear sign of disrespect. She obviously did not value him. Some women have very poor judgement when it comes to selecting a father for their children. So poor in fact that I think evolution has been over ridden for many. I think she intentionally went off the pill. The effectivity when taken correctly is 98%. She was trying to baby trap him and didn’t think through the fact she might get pregnant with ex and be found out.
Coincidentally, a few days ago I met an ex work colleague of mine. He had just celebrated his 35th wedding anniversary. His 30 year old daughter gave as a gift a 23 and me test for all three of them. It turned out that his daughter wasn't his. His wife had slept with another man while on holiday. He is now in the process of divorcing his wife. His wife said it was so long ago, but for him it was only last week. But he said that his daughter remains his daughter.
I feel for your friend and his daughter. This revelation has to be very difficult for both of them, but it doesn’t change that she is his daughter and the love they have for each other. I wish them the very best. Thank you for sharing their story.
WOW!! That woman is TRASH! Next time you see your ex colleague tell him he's my hero.
Good man. $hitty 304 wife.
Sue the mother & real sire for back child support
Yeah, these people are so ignorant. "It happened so long ago!!" Uuuuhhhh no. Since u decided to lie and keep it secret, I just found out. So, to me, it literally just happened the moment I found out
Devastating but still better than finding out 10 years later after raising the child for years.
By ten years, that’s your kid. Period. There are states where if you’re legally married, you’re legally the father of any child your wife births anyway.
Yep, it's truly sad the amount of paternity fraud that goes on with zero repercussions
@@sparkeymcmurphy Living in the lie. A woman who does that to a man should do the long prison time.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 I’m saying if you raise a child, that is YOUR child. Period.
@@sparkeymcmurphy Clearly you arent a man. You cant understand what this fact mean to us.
Her: "Will you give me another chance?" Him: "Sure! Here is your phone. Call the actual father and find out if he wants to take you and the baby. I am out of here."
Love it.
That's about as hardcore as you can get. She showed him absolutely no respect by getting it on with the ex in his own home. No man or should I say a real man can ever forgive that betrayal.
The guy handled it like a boss. He kept the pressure on her to tell him until she cracked and told him the whole story. Good on him for standing his ground.
I want mandatory DNA tests for 2 reasons.
1: To establish that my partner and I are the biological parents.
2: To be prepared if the child has any genetic related illnesses, if one of us is a carrier of that gene.
0a: Because women can cheat and you don't want to be caring for someone else's child or wasting years of your life with a cheater when you could be spending it with someone else and raising your own child.
0b: For women, it is unfortunately necessary in 2023 to be sure your husband/SO knows that it is his child because of the not insignificant chance that it is someone else's.
You mean to establish if you are one of the parents, surely the woman would know that she is.
The reason it is not law is because the government does not want to take care of single moms. They don’t care who the father is. They just want to strap the responsibility of child care on a guy. Be it taking care of the child, or child support. Also the courts collect money when child support is paid so they will do anything to strap a guy with it.
@@DarthSoto78 How the injustice towards cuckolded men is enforced, is by following the law. Laws are often put in place to suit the government, rather than the people they are supposed to serve.
@@tweakypoppy I know. I'm just saying Mandatory DNA test will never become law because the government loses too much money if there are not men to pay for Chad spawn. Men have to ask for them.
Imagine the level of abuse that would inevitably follow if you let your woman get away with the ultimate act of disrespect.
Your woman?
@@arianebolt1575 Men and women equally use the possessive term "my" before any words referring ti their romantic partner. Do you have a problem with that?
@@virtual-viking The only problem I see here is you feeling the need to respond to her stupidity. She should have just let her converse with her self so she could experience how important she is outside her eco chamber. Unless she's 12yrs old, she knew exactly what you meant.
@@arianebolt1575 Too right. She belongs to the street.
@@PrinceKelify A feminist, you know, the type that wants to be a carousel rider until she's forty and then settle down with a "good" man.
Damned grandmother having the nerve to ask if he'd take her back. Another potential cheater there in that grandmother.
Former cheater for sure
It's for stability of the child. Most other women have the maternal concern to make sure the child has a stable environment, paternity be damned. Still though, hell no!
Of course. She doesn't want to raise and pay for the kid. She doesn't want to be labeled as the mother of a cheating single mom. She doesn't want her granddaughter growing up in a single mother household -- she knows how bad that is. She doesn't want her daughter and granddaughter living in poverty, jumping between stepdads or boyfriends, etc., etc. So, she tries the best chance to avoiding bad consequences -- because there's no consequences. Her husband isn't going to divorce her, her reputation isn't going to suffer, etc. Why not? If OP agreed, good. If he keeps saying "No", nothing lost.
Logically, it makes sense. The only way to avoid terrible outcomes to daughter and granddaughter is for some fool to step forward and be with her, accept the financial responsibility, try to keep daughter in-line, raise the kid, etc., etc. and OP is there, used to love her daughter, etc. It used to be parents of a mom who tried baby-trapping used to suffer some penalties -- kicked out of church, fired, relatives stopped coming by, girlfriends shunned her, etc. Not anymore.
Seems like grandpa might want to think about getting a D.N.A. test to see if that is really HIS daughter.
@@humansvd3269 If she truly wanted "stability" for the child, she would have had a child with her fiancée and not some dead beat "dude" of an ex-boyfriend that doesn't want to be the father.
The daughter's mother should be calling up her ex-boyfriend and asking him to marry her daughter. He's the one that knocked her up.
my heart goes out to this guy. i applaud this guy for standing his ground.
I worked with several guys that had similar stories. One of the guys ended up blowing his brains out in a shopping center parking lot and another guy just excepted the child as his own. I still see the guy who excepted his wife's affair baby and he looks miserable. Just looks like a defeated man.
Oh God ... why on this earth we men want to go down this path with so much stacked against us? I have been fortunate enough with none of these complications and still my heart is pounding just reading it.
The word you're looking for is "accepted" not "excepted". Oh Man!
Something similar happened to me many years ago. A woman I was dating told me that she was twelve weeks pregnant. The problem is that I had only been dating her for nine weeks.
Lol
Congrats of being a non bio father. Or did you dumb her?
She didn’t even have the decency to use protection. Revolting.
And, had sex with the other man in their apartment! She’s a disrespectful 304!
Women in relationships always let the other partner hit it raw.
The decent thing would have been for her not to have sex with the ex
@@danwelterweight4137 as a former fuck boy, all women let you hit it raw if they like you enough.
@@danwelterweight4137It’s because she married the b dude but gets pregnant by the handsome a dude.
"I was unfaithful but want you to be the baby's father."
I got dumber just by reading that statement. She was willingly asking him to father a child that wasn't even his and is shocked when he chooses to leave her. Her mother wasn't any better by asking him to reconsider and give her daughter another chance. Probably a cheater as well.
She was probably proud of her daughter for baby trapping the man with income with someone else's child. Well, until it was too obvious that it wasn't his.
It goes in the family.
"Do not let them break down your defenses."
Thank you.
The audacity of this woman to attempt to keep up the charade after the birth of the child.
And it would have worked if she was schlepping around with someone with similar features. HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! 37% of the time, according to statistics
Audacity is too kind of a word. We'll have to settle for the word "insolence" to remain reasonable.
paternity fraud is disgustingly and embarassingly high statistically according to a lawyers comments i have seen before. It's the nasty side of female nature. A lot of them will trap a man to raise a kid because they really desired the genetics of another man. Nature is fucked up and not everyone is moral to rise above base animal nature. A lot of women waste their youth and can't lock down men they really want to be with and will end up with some chump who thinks he has won his darling prize only she absolutely settles for anyone at that point out of desperation. A lot of men are blind to this reality, they think they just randomly become studs somehow. No. If women have never chased you in your life and they suddenly see you as a prize its probably for a reason you don't want.
@@jorgeespinoza3150 "...can you say... stank ho?" That's a favorite line of mine from Deliver Us from Eva.
In all seriousness, women have gotten away with this for millennia and now they should be vilified on the spot. The bill comes due immediately. It should be standard.
This never really happened. It’s a made up story.
My wife and I were once discussing this topic and I “joked” about a paternity test. Without hesitation, she said “Do it! They’re yours. I got nothing to hide.” She didn’t feel degraded, unloved or project I was cheating, which is just a tactic women use to try to shame men into not taking a test. Had she got even the slightest bit defensive, I would have tested all of them.
I think the reason most women are upset at the request to do a paternity test is that it implies that the man thinks they are unfaithful when they have not and would not cheat. It kills relationships because the woman feels unloved and degraded by the suggestion she would cheat and probably wonders if the man is cheating and thus projecting. If tests were mandatory for every pregnancy then the implication of unfaithfulness is removed and it's the system that requires it and not the potential father doubting his partner. I think testing every pregnancy is a good idea.
Jane people get tested for all kinds of things during pregnancy and this could be added to the ever growing list as routine testing.
@@chula686 yes I agree. When I had my kids (1994 and 2002) people who had had a HIV test were looked down on especially by insurance companies but I had a HIV test as a routine part of testing when pregnant. It took quite some arguing with insurance companies to make them understand it was routine and not because I had a risky lifestyle. I understand they are much less judgemental now! I think paternity testing every pregnancy would cause some controversy to start with but would soon just become routine.
@@janes9055 agreed. We had HIV testing done before having kids. It was definitely looked down on but now my PCP tests us yearly
Unfortunately the system we have now prefers to have a ready made "responsible party" in case there ever turns out to be a need to force child support on someone. They are not interested in trying to track someone down to be the responsible party if a test shows the father is someone other than who the woman originally claimed. They don't really care who the father is as long as a man - any man - is on the hook for the child support.
@@chula686they get tested for things that could complicate or endanger the pregnancy. This is not a test that has any impact on the baby’s growth and development.
Pre-birth paternity test should become a federal mandated law. Men should start a petition to bring it before Congress.
There’s really no need for a federal law. If you get to know the person you’re going to have sex with, and then make sure you’re protected until you know them even better than THAT, you should be okay. If not, wait until birth. This story makes no sense for about a million reasons, because it didn’t actually happen. In the vast majority of cases, a DNA test can wait until birth. It should stay elective. It goes both ways when you say something like “it shouldn’t be a problem if you aren’t cheating”. If you find yourself in a situation where you need a DNA test pre-birth, then you need to start re-evaluating your own process of partner selecting.
@@sparkeymcmurphy
Even if this particular story isn't true, paternity fraud is real. You have no idea how many men are victims of paternity fraud, and it destroys people. Also, many people are very skilled at hiding who they are. You can know someone for a long time and still have this happen to you. When it's done, it's devastating to the person wronged. Check out a RUclipsr by the name of Strong Sucessful Male. He goes over many stories from men that are subscribers where they write about their experiences with paternity fraud. You can't tell me that all those stories are made up.
Finally, what you said about re-evaluating your process of partner selection removes all accountability on the cheating partner.
@@sparkeymcmurphy You sound slow.
@@sparkeymcmurphyit happened, stop trying to defend cheating whores. You’re probably a goofy feminist that also do these deeds, typical whaman. Lol!
Unfortunately, that won't happen..... too much money to be lost by the state...
I think a paternity test should be mandatory for all births... Insurance should cover it. Solve a lot of issues.
It's coming in some places, but the fact that the news that it's coming has the typical twitter and tiktok thots are freaking out about it says all you need to know about how much loyalty there is in these modern 'enlightened' tinder using girls.
That 33% may actually be higher/lower. It's 33% of babies that were tested because of child support. We have no idea if the ones that aren't tested are actually the biological father's.
Yes, this has been continually stated. It's also suspected the real numbers are between 50 and 70 percent.
@@gregs2143 Definitely closer to 70% or higher. Women are excellent liars and cheat just as much, if not even more so than men do. They're usually just better at being sneaky and lying.
@@ITIsFunnyDamnIT the latest stats show women cheat more! Told my wife of 20 years, I wouldn't dare get married in today's world!
@@gregs2143 I believe it. Sadly not surprised by this. Women have been entitled and NEVER held accountable for far too long, as well as feminism is why most women belong to the streets. I'm glad to see more men waking up to this
@@gregs2143 D I T T O !
The pill is roughly 91% effective.
"Is something wrong? Whose else would it be?"
She's still trying to lie instead of owning up to her "mistake."
But not really a "mistake" since she had choices.
The marriage is off. Tell her to go run to her baby daddy ex
Mistake? That is not a mistake, it is definitely adulterous wife trying to pass off another man's child as his!
@@norbertschultz6233 the passing the other man's child as his wasn't the mistake, That was just plain stupid & wrong on countless levels
Having the affair in the first place was one of the mistakes she made, though pretty obvious she allowed it to happen.
Don't know what else to call it, at the time, but 'mistake'
stupidity definitely.
Cheating isn't a mistake, It's a choice
They usually try to blame a dirty toilet seat !
@@deanfisher5017 haven't heard that one, but I believe it
Paternity tests should be Mandatory for ALL Births whether before during of after rather then wait years later and then have families and relationships crushed. This is Beyond Despicable and the guy shouldn't have helped with the Nursey stuff instead should have taken it back to get some of his money back.
They should be mandatory when the hospitalfills out the birth certificate, but I understand why they are not. The presumptive father will be paying for the child without a test, instead of possibly the government having to pay for that child. Why would the government volunteer something that potentially costs them money.
Prebirth paternity test are not easy or practical.
@@ThatGirlJD They can do a simple arm blood draw..zero excuse
I heard of a case where they did a paternity test and found out the baby wasn't either the mothers nor the fathers. The baby was switched from birth.
This followed a huge law suit against the hospital.
It was insane.
@@winniethepoohandeeyore2ThatGirl sounds like That304.
To the streets... she really tried to have him raise her affair child. She's about to learn a hard lesson in single parenting, but she has no one to blame but herself.
I can't believe she even thought that saying she wanted him to be the baby's father was even an option.
She is going to need help paying those bills!!!
@@garybulwinkle82Not him at least.
Miguel (the father) doesn’t have any money.
These DNA tests should be mandated worldwide
Man, that is a real slap in the face. I am sorry the guy had to find out this way, or any way. But it is great that all this happened and the truth is out before marriage.
men must be careful i’m a pediatrician and i can believe that this happens a lot!
it’s sad and i feel for the men who had this happen to them
Thank you, that's very kind d.
You sound like a good and wise woman.
Never underestimate the desire of the female to avoid the ramifications and repercussions of their actions.
So relieved he didn't go back to her. Too many of these stories end with the man simping out and ruining his life.
"If women have nothing to worry about, then they should have no problem taking the test."
Oh, you know that they can't be logical about it. They will get all up in their feelings.
The woman before the test: "You don't trust me!"
The woman after the test proves the man is the father: "See? I told you were the father! How dare you doubt it!"
The whole trust issue will hang like a cloud over the relationship from then on.
If the test is mandatory, then this would not be a problem. I think it should be mandatory, but good luck on that dream.
The government isn't going to push for it, because they want the man to be financially responsible regardless of who the father really is.
So, you don’t expect to be trusted in your relationship? Are you the same type of guy that would freak out if your girl checked your phone behind your back? Or would that be cool?
Also, there’s no need for it to be mandatory, per your own comment. In order to be financially held responsible, you have to have a DNA test after the fact. The court will order one the second you file for support.
Simply reply, TRUST is EARNED.
@@sparkeymcmurphy you 🤡
There really is no reason to have an issue of you are not a cheater, since if you are not the test can only prove you right.
Paternity fraud should be a crime punishable by prison time. At least 18 years of prison time.
Who will look after the baby...the man is not the father, the woman is in prison.
@@sharonwheat3659 This is child abuse but she's a mom, so it's all ok.
Fax
@@sharonwheat3659 the real father or her family
It was a kindness that he allowed her to keep the baby equipment!
He was kind and a true gentleman throughout.
Because it’s a made up story.
@@sparkeymcmurphy it dosent metter if it is made up or not because this things do happen
@@rusudenes8549 it does matter, because nobody kept any baby equipment.
@@sparkeymcmurphy where is your evidence that this is made up otherwise you are just hateful
Imagine being that girls parents. Daughter is out of the house and they are looking forward to a retirement of relaxation. Then they are introduced to Financial Burden the Second.
Should’ve taught their daughter better values.
@@covertcounsellor6797 …….you got that right.
paternity fraud needs to be crime with consequences.
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I'm sure the nurses and doctors responsible for deliveries could tell you quite a few stories like these from their own perspective. I bet they get very used to that "Ohhhhhh damn... here we go..." feeling.
White mom and dad, dark brown baby....dead give away lol
These tests should be mandatory before allowing a man's name be put on a birth certificate.
Amazing how the real father seems to get away Scott free.
Or did he? Probably not since they all know whose baby it is. The guy is probably at least paying child support.
@@jimmyboy131 those types of guys are usually very hard to get hold of and also they don't have a stable high earning job so they fall back on the sure guy.
@@allynlewis4471 If the stable guy will take her back. Hopefully he won't.
@@allynlewis4471 do you mean Hispanic guys? What types of guys?
@@jimmyboy131 Nobody is paying child support. I promise you that.
Girl: I love him, his kind, his nice, his caring, has a good home and he proposed to me.......OH WELP! TIME TO GET PREGNANT WITH EX-BOYFRIEND :)))
They will keep hooking up with the bad boy ex through the marriage.
Well, love and d*ck are two different things, its easy to love the wallet, while wanting the broke loser's big d*ck. And women are good at telling themself that they are doing absolutely nothing wrong.
"he's" or "he is" not "his"
She knew the baby was her ex, that's why she wanted to get married so quickly. How can you say you love someone and giving yourself to someone else, the ultimate betrayal in a relationship.
I feel for this guy, this story is devastating. Paternity test needs to be mandatory! The audacity of this girl to even ask that; she needs to be arrested on fraud.
This reminds me of an old joke: "The marriage was late, but the baby was right on time".
fun fact: in france it's illegal for the assumed father to get a pregnancy test without court order.
OMG ... and the hits keep on coming.
That just tell you how French Women are known to be a bunch of 304s. The French government even tries to cover up for their infidelities.
I wonder why? Judges must do a lot of cheating with other men's wives!!
Merde!
Conneries typiques des français
This guys is a boss and solid man. Good job.
As a woman I'm ashamed that so many other girls do this to their s.o. and claim they loved them: no, if you did, you wouldn't have cheated on them!
Me and my fiancè discussed having kids many times and I immediately said I wanted both a paternity and a maternity test done as soon as the kid will be borne: there have been to many cases of children swapped at birth by carless nurses or husbands that were convinced by friends that the kids weren't theirs (one of my American friends divorced over this: her husband was disappointed the kids were all his because he was sure his friends were right and she was cheating) that I want all the peace of mind possible....Also, if you didn't do anything wrong, why don't you propose the test? I get some women might get offended if suddenly the partner asks for the test implying they thought the woman was cheating, that's a dealbreaker for me too, but if you ask for peace of mind, I don't see why not.
33% is recorded who know it may be 50% as your culture shows jumping from man to man cheating lying fake charges suporting terrorist rapist pedophile jihadis BLM antifaa goons then claims they are saints
Even good cristian wives are cheating like hell and pedophile Padres are healing them
I mean I’m sorta kidding. I know you’re a dude. Because no woman would say something like that lol.
@@sparkeymcmurphy I'm not sure if you were really kidding/being sarcastic, but yes, sorry but I'm really a woman in my thirties. I guess my opinion on this matter depends on the fact that my parents drilled into me that honesty and loyalty are some of the best qualities a person can have. I might add that I'm not American so this can also explain why both me and my female friends have this opinion on dna tests and cheating...if something isn't right or the feelings change, it's better to close the chapter and move on, as hard as it might be.
@@sparkeymcmurphy I'm a woman and in total agreement
@@Kleomenides86 my question is about the maternity test. But since you’re not American, that may change things.
I'd be suing for every dime I spent that was baby related, emotional suffering.I'd take them to the cleaners. And Mom and Dad both found out that their sweet precious princess is a Garden tool.
You can't blame the poor parents for their ADULT DAUGHTER"S Bad Morals !
You will need $20,000 to just get started suing her. Thank goodness he was not married to her. When your married to her, the man is 100 % responsible for her bills. It not 50 50 like your told. Even if it's not his baby, he is still responsible financially. Family court favors the woman/ child everytime. If he was married, the courts throw the man out. She needs a place to raise that baby. Don't sign anything men.
That’s one of the MANY reasons this story is fiction. A normal person would return all the stuff, not move it there and sue later. You’d likely lose, too, because she can then say it was a gift.
@@georgesontag2192 LOL
@@deanfisher5017 They raised a garden tool
After listening to so many stories like this, there is no way in hell I wouldn't ever forget to order a paternity test.
I'm not sure why this video popped up visible to me this morning, but it is interesting that it did. About a week ago I caught a man I have known since he was just a baby. I have known his parents for years. He was looking dejected and was eating a salad and watching a game on TV at the place where he was. It had been a while since I last spoke to him and I took notice he was alone. I asked if I could join him and he said yes please sit. He went on to tell me he is in the process of getting divorced and his wife is fighting him on it. He is not going to lose much because he has no claim on the house and she makes as much as he does. This man is a craftsman that makes things by hand. He spent over 6 months making a baby bed and other things to furnish a nursery with only to discover after the child was born that it was not his. It was not a mixed-race issue, but after studying the child's face and hair color he knew she was not his. The mother so far has blocked all attempts to get DNA from the baby as of the last we spoke, but his Attorney has told him to stay calm at some point if she wants child support there will have to be DNA testing. Here is why he knows that baby is not his. His hair is a very dark shade of brown, almost black. Nobody in his family has high cheekbones that he knows of. His wife also has very dark hair and so does her parents. None of them have high cheekbones either. The baby has high cheekbones and has blonde hair. Guess what! His wife's boss has blonde hair and high cheekbones! He did move out of the home she lived in before their marriage and is staying in an apartment for now. He knows that his wife has added his name to the birth certificate and named the baby after his mother. Still won't allow him to be alone with the baby, but demands he step up and be a father. Folks, this BS MUST be stopped!
Op you handled it like a champ salute you
Pre Maternity test is a much welcomed for us Military guys.. Wives be getting their freak on before during and after the deployments
Military guys should never get married, its like 99% that they get cheated on
And some are cheaters themselves.
@@LindaMeade Its not cheating for a guy to sleep around. Its only cheating when a female does it
@@dragorn3212 oh, is that how that works? Can you explain the logic there?
@@sparkeymcmurphy Men are capable of having multiple offspring from different spouses simultaneously and women aren't. It's in their biology to have multiple partners but not in women's biology. So when women 'cheat' they're literally going against god their creator
The only reason she pushed for marriage was to make sure he would be responsible for the child. In many states the husband is automatically the father even if there's proof of infidelity. She wanted to make sure she had her provider locked down. Then she tried to manipulate him by getting him to hold the child. I would've walked right out and told the nurses to NOT put my name on anything. At least his mom supported him instead of trying to make excuses for the woman.
This never happened. The story makes absolutely no sense. And was also written by someone who doesn’t know anything about delivery rooms or babies.
100%
@@sparkeymcmurphy Based on what?
@@humansvd3269 because she didn’t like how it made her feel. Read her comment on this video about how she would end a relationship immediately if even asked for a paternity test. According to her men don’t deserve security or peace of mind, that’s reserved for women like her.
Exactly. I thought the same thing she would have him on the hook for alimony and child support
This has long been needed.
"I want you to be the father" I spit my hot chocolate out laughing
She's got HUGE balls.
i find it interesting that if the hospital mixes up the kids and the mother finds out the hospital usually pays half a million or more. if the woman does it the guy is lucky to get out of child support.
Excellent point.
It is nothing short of attempted fraud.
Good god this was devastating I feel for him. When my son was born it was the single most beautiful moment of my life. I couldn’t imagine his pain or even how he suffered.
Keep in mind 33% is not against the general population. These are self-selected cases where someone chose to do a test. This means that likely there was some suspicion of infidelity already. So if these numbers are close to 1 in 3, then the general population could be more like 1 in 10.
Agreed. For example my husband and I didn’t do testing on our kids. They were IVF so 🤷♀️
Agreed. The number of cases in the general population is probably much lower. So the number of people facing the heartache this man faced is relatively low. But in my state they had mandatory HIV testing before marriage, even though HIV affects a small minority of the population. So there is a precedent for such mandates.
@@John-oo8dn I talked to my husband and we think the least troublesome option is to DNA test for both parents after leaving hospital. Use the rationale that hospitals mix babies up and you don’t want that to happen. That is the most likely to ensure that you don’t lose your spouse and child. Because even if it’s your kid, if you didn’t agree on this ahead of time, your wife may leave and she will take your kid with her. You risk losing both
Great story.
NEVER PAY FOR ANOTHER MAN'S CREAMPIE.
I had to watch two ads before the video and then Teo more after o e minute, 25 seconds. Come on RUclips! You're killing your platform!!
I did not even know the existence of this test. Thank you for bringing this to our notice.
What a classy and fabulous man !
She baby trapped him!! She knew the whole time.
She tried to. But he stood his ground like a man and bounced.
Paternity tests should be a requirement in every state before any man's name can be put on any birth certificate. A man should have to sign a waiver that he understands that the child is not his before he can sign it. I've actually considered approaching my state representative in my state about putting this law forward.
NIPTs are important, even if you trust the woman, it is important just in case there are any serious anomalies.
The old societal model was:
A young woman would trade her youth and fertility exclusively to only one man, and he in turn would be the workhorse and take care of her when she gets past her prime. This was a great incentive for men to work, become men, and get married. You got a prize, a young beautiful loyal wife.
In theory, as we know life isn't perfect.
She does him a favor early on by being a virgin/exclusive and later he does her a favor by staying and supporting her instead of leaving her for a younger woman. They both get a prize.
The new societal model is:
Women whore around and waste their youth and fertility on Chad/Tyrone, get walled out, get STDs, lose their ability to pair bond, rapidly accelerate their aging process with excessive alcohol and fast food, and have no loyalty to any man. What sensible man would pay top dollar for something 30 other men got for free? The incentive for men is gone. You don't get a prize anymore. You get a parasite with an entitlement mentality that’s looking to take your resources and then some. Before you even say “I do” at the altar, she’s already plotting how to financially grape your ace in family court after she locks you in with at least one kid, a mortgage, and then divorces your sorry ace a few years later.
Why do you think she’s smiling as she’s walking down the aisle? Wouldn’t you if you got to keep the house, the kids, all the cash and prizes, and she’s paying for it all? Men get divorced to get rid of something. Women get divorced to get something.
A woman’s main reason for getting married is to get a divorce. Most women are cold, cruel, predatory animals with no conscience.
A woman who marries for money will complain about love. A woman who marries for love will complain about money. A woman who has both will find something else to complain about.
Apparently the worst thing a woman can experience is being married to a man who loves her.
A man's seexual drive is used to lure him into signing a one-sided lifetime contract with a parasitic woman with penalties for leaving. She gets to keep all the cash and prizes and can break the contract at any time, for any reason, lie under oath, and suffer no penalties. In fact, she is rewarded.
There is no wisdom in signing a contract with someone who benefits from breaking it.
A man is not going to invest in somebody that at best laughs at him or at worst hates him and blames him for everything.
You're expected to pay a premium price for a used up, beaten up, tatted up, parasitic leach. Who is an ungrateful, self-consumed, easily offended, fat, ugly, aggressive biitch on wheels, with a masculine demeanor, and an entitlement mentality. A soulless woman from the bargain basement bins of some store in the hood with the morals of an alley cat. An in denial, freak of nature, pathologically delusional, self-esteem deficient, morally bankrupt, bottom dwelling, blood sucking, inhuman, creature of the night, spawned from the seed of Satan. A true boil on the buttocks of the world.
When she dies, the last living reminder of helll will be gone from the face of the earth.
She has kids from Chad/Tyrone or both, personal credit card debt, no assets, school debt for a worthless degree in liberal arts, Greek Mythology, or gender studies. No cooking skills and no desire to learn any, no fiscal responsibility, an overly banged vagina, and a pet you’ll be expected to take care of as well.
And you're supposed to be happy about this opportunity to lick up the scraps from the floor.
The so-called good men she wants and can’t find are out there. They just don’t want her at the table because she has nothing to bring except financial and emotional pain. When women say, "Men are only after one thing". Meaning seex. My question to them is, do you have anything else to offer? Crickets is all I hear. Which means even they don't believe they have anything else to offer.
In addition, she also has great expectations you’ll do everything for her, make her feel better, and provide an unrealistic unsustainable lifestyle she feels she deserves because she read about it some feminazi magazine article that hates men.
All this while she cheats behind your back with the “bad boys” she’s always really wanted all along, while you’re at work paying all the bills to feed this little parasite.
Women don’t “love men”, they love what men can do for them. Where are all the great works of art female artists have created, inspired by their love of men?
Men are not afraid of commitment or marriage…. Men are afraid of getting divorce graped in “family court.” It’s just a bad deal all the way around for men and a crap shoot at best. There’s nothing in it for men except the chance to be financially ruined for the rest of your life.
If you were thinking of going skydiving and knew that three out of four parachutes failed, and you had already watched your friends jump, some successfully, others not so. Would you be willing to take the chance that you're going to be the exception and get the one parachute out of the four that is going to work?......... I mean they all look so pretty and smell so good and feel so soft to the touch and they are offering you the thrill of a lifetime if you would just let one of them wrap itself around you and make that commitment to attach yourself to it and jump...... would you still take that chance?
But… but…. Look how pretty the parachutes are, smell their lovely fragrance, touch and feel how soft they feel, they beckon you to try one of them on, please try me on and let me wrap myself tightly around you and see how good I feel to you, I’ll hold on tight and snug to you, I am not like the others, honest I am different, I’ll work.
Well….. would you do it? Would you take that chance for the thrill of a lifetime?
Yea, that sounds like a good deal if I were a moron, is this the line I stand in to lose half my sheet?
Good luck with that.
Men are waking up and realizing this system is defective and toxic. Women's seexual liberation, femiinism and the birth control pill, have ironically dis-empowered women. They are throwaway seexual objects now more than ever.
"Femiinism did NOT free women from the chains they thought they had. It freed MEN from the chains they had no idea were there."
~ Arch Stanton ~
liked the stuff U said
Disliked the length of post
So I replied instead....
@@gjohn338 I understand and thank you for taking the time to read it all. My goal is to help others to avoid getting into a bad situation.
I put a lot of stuff in there because I am in my sixties and I've got a lot of experience to share.
The comment you are referring to, originally started out as small little separate comments that I would post here and there, and then one day I got the brilliant idea that I might be able to link them all together as one long comment and this is the result and it is still continually changing and evolving to keep up with current times.
This whole comment is a cumulation of years of watching and listening to others and learning from their mistakes, reading, listening to seminars, and of course my own personal experiences in life. The places I’ve been, the things I’ve done, and the people I’ve met.
I am older now and have had a good life. I was M.G.T.O.W. way back when I was in my late teens and early twenties. I just didn’t know it and there was no term like M.G.T.O.W. for it. By the way, the music of the sixties was great!
I learned early on in life not to listen to or trust women. I saw other men that had gotten married, lived to regret it, and curse the day they ever got married, and little did they know, the fun for them was only just beginning.
Soon they would be falsely accused of assaulting their wives, seexually assaulting their own children, and then slapped with a restraining order and now they could only see their children under state supervision.
Try getting a job or a place to live with that on your record.
Oh, but wait, there’s more, the fun doesn’t just stop there. It just keeps getting even better with each passing day. Next, they get financially raped in the corrupt, unethical, immoral, dishonest, crooked, and shady at best “family court system” by a vengeful, hateful, vindictive lying, parasitic, shrew of a woman that used to be their wife.
The woman you marry, is not the same woman you divorce.
So, these poor slobs are left alone to cry in their coffee, driving an old rust bucket of a car because that’s all they could afford, his ex-wife gets rewarded for her poor behavior and gets all the cash and prizes.
She gets to keep the nice “new” S.U.V. she convinced him to buy while they were still “happily married”, all the time knowing full well she was going to soon divorce his sorry ace and keep it. He is living in some small one room apartment, while his ex-wife is living in the house he is still paying for, she got custody of the children, turned his own children against him, “coached” them to lie about him in court, while he pays child support and vaginamoney to this parasite, she installs her new “boyfriend” in his house….. and it only gets worse from there.
Getting attached to women only leads to emotional pain and financial ruin. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule…… but that still doesn’t change the rule. It’s the exception that proves the rule.
There’s no wisdom in signing a contract with someone who benefits from breaking it.
Now, look at this poor guy. What women is going to want to date or have anything to do with a man that is broke, looks like he’s been pulled backwards through a horse’s ass, and has a vindictive ex-wife coming at him like a heat seeking missile?
I was blessed with a good position in life and didn’t have to work very hard to get girls/women. Women liked being around me and to be seen with me and the guys liked hanging around with me because it increased their chances of “getting laid”.
I knew the women didn’t necessarily like “me”, they liked being seen with me, they liked the thought of other woman envying them for being seen with me, they liked the thought of having access to my resources, they liked the thought of marrying my lifestyle and hooking me to them for life with a kid. Who I was, was just coincidental to them. They wanted access to my resources.
Many a woman has asked me to marry her and I don’t regret a one I turned down. I do regret the two I did marry, but I fortunately did not have any children with either of them, was only married three years to my first wife and one year to my second wife. Did not get financially ruined cause I saw my mistake early on and got out before we had children and bought a house together. Although they both lobbied very hard to have children, I was able to put them off. I purposely did not purchase a house or accumulated much property because after I signed on the “dotted marriage line” I noticed a slight change in their attitude and not for the better. I suspected things might be going south and I was right. Both marriages eventually ended in a divorce. I got a vasectomy at age forty and never married again.
When I dated, I dated from a position of power and I didn’t have to take any sh!t from any women and I wasn’t afraid to tell them to hit the road and they knew I would do it. That threat has to absolutely be on the table at all times. I had a reputation for not taking any sh!t and had already demonstrated my willingness to retire beetchy women in past relationships.
If they became beetchy, controlling, or in general just not fun to be around…… at that point, they had reached their expiration date, I didn’t need them, and their phone stopped ringing. What is the point of dating someone if she isn’t fun to be around? These things are supposed to make your life better. There was always another one waiting in line to take her place. It was that simple, no fights, no arguments…. It just went silent. It’s been nice, I am sorry but it’s just not working out. I hope you find someone else more deserving of you… (to take your sheet)
I never told them they couldn’t do this, or they couldn’t do that, but if they weren’t bringing seex to the table, well then, why are you even here? I can get everything else I need from my friends and a dog.
They were always free to do and say whatever they wanted to and they were always free to leave at any time. My only job was to decide if I was willing to keep them around and put up with their behavior. If I didn’t like something they were doing, I would put them on notice that if it continued, we would no longer be dating and in that case, they were free to see other men with my blessing. Sometimes I would even recommend other guys I thought they might be more compatible with.
Even today as an older man, I can still turn heads when I walk into a room.
The reason you might see this comment posted around is because I want as many men as possible to see it and to help those coming after me to avoid falling into these female traps and dream killers.
I’ve never let any female stop me from pursuing my goals and dreams. If they don’t support my dreams and goals, they get left behind. In this world you either lead, follow, or get out of the way.
As I have with others who have asked my permission to copy and paste this comment….. I extend the same to you. You have my permission and blessing to copy, paste, and spread the word.
Arch, I feel sorry for you. It has to be difficult and painful to live with so much hatred.
@@sharonwheat3659 You have misread me my delicate little flower.
I love women and enjoy the company of a good woman. I just don't take any sh!t from them either. I am not a doormat.
I don't have a scarcity mentality and with confidence know there is always another one standing in line to take her place if she becomes b!tchy, complaining, controlling, problematic, disrespectful, or in general just isn't any fun to be around anymore. At that point she has reached her expiration date and her phone stops ringing.
I am not married to her, so she can leave anytime she wants with my best wishes and when she leaves she takes nothing. I get to keep my house, car, savings, retirement....
I treat all women with the respect they deserve.
This is pretty accurate. A lot of modern men are trash too, which is part of the process of making damaged women. It’s just a cycle of damage.
As a woman 😜👠 .....
I'm fully in on this !!!!
100/cent..!!!
This is the worst you can do to a man. Not only he found out that his „lovely woman“ had cheated on him he also found out that he will not become a father and that he lost his „love“. All in one moment! Also the brutal flip of emotions. From „King of the world“ to „my worst nightmare came true“. I cannot imagine how this guy felt. I‘m really sorry for him.
I also agree, tests should be mandatory but for birthright and family history. A history of blood should be recorded and known who you are related to. It should be a standard not for mainly to see if the persons cheating but for birth certificates. Everyone should and has a right to know where they come from and not lied to their whole life. Also if a man is paying for a kid that’s not his he has a right to know. Nobody likes being tricked or cheated and I think it’s a serious crime.
What an honor. She cheats on him, but still wants him to be the father.
lol
I honestly believe that every child should have a paternity and maternity test when they are born unless they are adopted at birth. These tests should be as frequent as a birth certificate.
And this is why paternity tests are banned in so many places
The suffering of that dude after leaving the building and thinking dirty deeds began in his apartment, his bed. These orbiting ex's seem to pop up and continue relations any time they like.
Did an prenatal, and one post birth when my son was 3 months old. The post birth was for extra peace of mind, and was a fraction of the cost of prenatal.
To add, I was technically the “other man” had no clue during. Spoke with the boyfriend and he was an absolute loser. I’m grateful for my son, and grateful that guy wasn’t the father. Even with the rough circumstances, I love my son more than anything.
They can do a simple prenatal arm blood draw now. DNA should be on the federal level.
What do you mean by that. The government doesn’t need to tell me what I should do.
@@getitright5863 Sounds like someone needs to since you would be all for trapping an innocent man into raising another man's kid
@@winniethepoohandeeyore2 how do you know @getitright5863 isn’t a man?
@@sparkeymcmurphy They do a simple prenatal arm blood draw on the pregnant mother which they are against. What decent man would just take the word of the mother and say oh ok, if you say so I'm bio baby daddy..Thankfully men are waking up to deceit
Is he SURE the baby came “Pre-Mature”? My wife is a obstetrics Nurse and is amazed at the number full-term babies the Mothers claim are ‘early’.
The best way to not look slutty as to claim you had the baby a month early.
That's the oldest trick in the book.
I'll bet her parents are proud 👏 ...
Paternity fraud should be a felony
This is such a horrible thing to do to someone!!!!
When dating a woman let her know by the third date your terms to continue into a relationship. 1. Zero Tolerance For Cheating 2. Open Phone Policy 3. If she becomes pregnant pre birth paternity test 4. If they get married a prenup a week after getting engaged
I investigated a woman I used to know for the short time I knew her: Turns out that she jumped on the carousel at 15, weed by 16, ciggies by 19, coke by 21, met the loser that introduced her to Meth at 29/30, Got pregnant by the same loser by 36, lost custody of her 5y/o kid(Struck the kid and drugs). Which means she was using while carrying the child🤯🤯🤯🤯 and split from baby daddy at 41, FINALLY quit Coke & Meth by 42, diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer at 43(and still smoking weed & ciggies 2+yrs after her diagnosis), She's 45 now, Broke, living alone with 2 cats, working a dead end job full time, and owes $30+k in lawyer fees. She's 5'4", 215lbs, rapidly graying hair, horrible complexion with new wrinkles coming in everyday, legs & ass lumpier than cottage cheese and full of cellulite, scars all over her body(including track marks) And she still believes she can get any guy she wants😆😆😆 not only does she carry tons of baggage and trauma, but also her brain is all sorts of messed up from all the yrs. of chronic drug abuse!! I'm sure she's developed quite a few personality disorders from her high body count including CPTSD from her 2 bouts of homelessness each lasting roughly a yr.!! Not to mention her masculine attitude(strong, independent, & brave🙄), and her mouth!! Talk about f#cking up your life beyond repair!!! The moment I found out about all this $hit, I ghosted her, And NEVER looked back!! Good thing I found out early enough to escape unscathed!! Lesson Learned!! Do not even become friends with single moms!!
I wouldn't even hang out with a single mom
Thank you.
That was an eye opener and a great lesson which i will never forget and let my gourd Down. Know that i learned that Fantastic helpful lesson, I thank you deep down from my Hearth for that advise you gave Me.
Thanks Gd And T,,Care
John.
I just got your sound in my pocket I am at the comment I made a mini golden California they say that there’s 50 to 70% of the men this raising children in their marriages don’t belong to them but I mean I mean from birth so they don’t need it for checking out their wives forget about checking out the man he don’t have children and wife the wife and kids the babies my God I don’t think so or not but there’s something wrong with that percentage they should be like one percent I can’t people like I don’t know I don’t know what to say but check it out in supreme right now if that’s what I think I heard a few weeks ago so I’m going to take a test in Cuesta near my God I just totally disgraceful
Sadly not every state mandates paternity tests.
I'm in my early 60's, my wife passed away 5 years ago. I met a girl younger that my own daughter and we became very close to the point she wanted to have a baby with me. I told her I had the snip in my early 40's, so off to the doctor I went to get it reversed. The booking was 3 months away. Before the snip reversal, I came home and she showed me the pregnancy test she took which was positive, she was so happy, but I told her I wanted a DNA test, and to my surprise she agreed 100%. 7 months into the pregnancy the DNA test was performed. The baby was mine. We since had another one (yep DNA tested). In both instances when I asked her for a DNA test, she never flinched and even enjoyed the challenge stating, "I told you so". She is AWESOME
Congratulations to you and your wife! It sounds like she's a keeper for sure. I wish you many happy years together. FYA
saw the title and I hope he didnt sign the birth certificate yet
The story is a fiction. So, no. But why would he sign a birth certificate if he left? I don’t understand.
@@sparkeymcmurphy In some states, the name on the birth certificate is the legal father - even if not biological.
Timing is every, brilliant example.
The fact that some women think the cheated on man should raise another man’s baby shows how out of whack things have gotten. Talk about no respect.
Had a related convo with an ex in 2017 after a heated discussion with friends. "If I told you I was pregnant, would you want a DNA test?" I said, "Do I look like an idiot?" She got a smug look on her face until I finished, "Of course I'd want a DNA test. As soon as it was feasible!". She got all huffy, "You don't trust me?". I just said, "You're a woman so NOPE". Just as men are capable of the most heinous acts of violence, so are women capable of the most heinous acts of deceit. And they're anything BUT apologetic. This guy handled it like a BOSS.
at least they aren't married
Perfect use of oral contraceptives = .1% failure rate
“Typical” use of oral contraceptives = 4-7% failure rate depending on the study.
Damn feel sorry for the guy! She got drilled 24-7 hard in his house till knocked up! Just not by him! Thank Gid he walked away
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Awesome, thank you!
@@findyouralpha I have been listening to those stories on other channels as well. You retelling those stories is different and much more entertaining. I like your style (not just story - telling).
Yes paternity test should be mandatory
And he’d have to pay child support if he married her before the birth of the child…
Also this man is way too nice because he paid for all of the nursery items so she will be leaving our house with nothing but her belongings
We had that fetal blood/cell dna test done. They can also identify the gender this way (why we had it done). It's funny about the paternity issue. I have a VERY unique nose (from profile view). It's not ugly or anything just unique. When my wife and I were at the ultrasound the profile view of my son showed an exact tiny copy of my nose and my wife and I just both burst out laughing. The nurse turned to us confused and I laughed and turned my head then SHE burst out laughing.
He was way too polite and accommodating to this strumpet!
The fact that she was willing to throw herself into the arms of Chad and not only got pregnant but keep it a secret from her now ex fiancée is just madding why not just communicate that you want to end it. But, she want to have her cake and eat it too.
But she didn't want to end it. She wanted OPs income while getting d*ck from the ex (among others, I presume) on the side. And doesn't think that there could be anything wrong in that.
always use protection and get rid of it afterwards. storage it in a safe place only you have access to.
I am going to speak from experience here. Don't ever marry a woman/man with kids, even if the child is an infant and you raise them and never have a bad relationship with them because sooner or later every stepparent WILL hear this same statement from the said child. "You are NOT my father/mother" even if it takes 20/30yrs you WILL hear it.
I mean… I trained young boys to box, and many of them didn’t have fathers in the home or around at all. I dated a girl with kids and I get on great with the kids. She and I didn’t work out but we’re still friends and I still get the kids birthday and Christmas presents. Their father is a bit of an abusive asshole and her son still tells me that he wishes I was his dad. I do want kids of my own one day, but I don’t know if I can ever trust someone to be my partner.
The parents walking in saying what's wrong is just too much... Like c'mon you know what the hell is wrong🙄
The fiancee and grandmother are absolutely DELUSIONAL.
Humans are one of only a few spieces where the females ovulation is hidden, ie neither the female nor any male knows when she ovulates and is prime for impregnation. There has to be good evolutionary benefits for this to exist. One part is that hidden ovulation encourages a male to remain close to his female and mate regularly in hope that he will eventually seed her at the right time. Human females benefit greatly by the male remaining close for long periods as we have a long gestation period... there is the 9 months in the womb and effectively another 9 months outside the womb before the baby becomes more independent - like most babies of other spieces are by the time of birth. This is due to the requirements of developing our big brains.
However, there is another factor, linked to the need for human females to have a personal male support. Most males have a low sexual value, with only a small percentage being worthy of contributing to the gene pool of the next generation. Hidden ovulation enables a female to have a pair-bonded mate, plus sneak off to get the seed of a high sexual value man. Obviously the high value man can not provide support for all the females around him (unless he is a king), but the female's time of impregnation is unknown so she can pass off the pregnancy to her lower value pair-bonded mate as being his.
The story here simply demonstrates this. She has a high sexual value ex-bf but has taken on a lower valued man as her pair-bond because he has good value for resource support and protection. The OP unfortunately does not know enough about woman to demand a full accounting of his fiancee's arrangements with her ex-bf. It would seem that despite all the years he spent with her, he failed to learn that her ex- bf was hispanic.... since he did not simply accuse his fiancee of being impregnated by her ex-bf. If he did know more, it would probably help him understand how she never had regard for him as a high sexual value man and he would realise he should always check for this in future relationships.
Perhaps it is detail that he thought too trivial to report in his story, but the fact that she bought the ex-bf to THEIR apartment (and presumably, THEIR bed) is telling and he should have thrown that in her face. That was a behaviour proving her total disrespect for and her lack of interest in OP. The ex-bf was visiting the area and presumably had a place to stay, at the very least they could have got a room somewhere. How did she know he was visiting.... because they had communicated prior. She knew he was coming, she may well have arranged it, they may well have been arranging these meets quite regularly, which is likely as indicated by meeting at her fiancees apartment. The costs of regularly getting a room is high but meeting at the apartment is high risk of being discovered. She most certainly would have been extremely excited while thinking about his visit. My guess is that even if she was legit on the pill, her level of excitement about her high sexual value man mating with her again may well have over ridden the effects of the pill, or perhaps she was so excited she vomitted the pill at some point.
The stat about 33% of tested babies being not of the expected father is surprising in that these are mostly tests where a father has doubts about his paternity.... it means that 67% of suspicious cases there was no cuckoo in the nest! Doctors have known since long before DNA was even known about that some 20% of babies were never sired by the expected father, just from eye-colour/skin tones/ear-lobe/scalp shape etc. And that's just the observable traits.
Sorry but you are wrong. The Catholic Faith doesn’t believe in use of birth control but they do teach young couples how to determine when the wife could get pregnant by sampling her vaginal secretions.
I noticed the fact they hooked up on his apartment too. That was a clear sign of disrespect. She obviously did not value him. Some women have very poor judgement when it comes to selecting a father for their children. So poor in fact that I think evolution has been over ridden for many. I think she intentionally went off the pill. The effectivity when taken correctly is 98%. She was trying to baby trap him and didn’t think through the fact she might get pregnant with ex and be found out.
Also, this story is a fiction. The “details” either conflict other details, or flat out make no sense altogether.
@@BusArch42 if she were actually trying to “baby trap” him, she would’ve made damn sure that was HIS baby.
@@sparkeymcmurphy you assume more intelligence than exists here 😉