In the early to mid 1990s i almost bought a 67 Chrysler New Yorker 2 dr hardtop. It had the 440 as standard equipment, console, bucket seats, performance indicator (factory piece, sort of like a tach i believe) power brakes. Some nice options and a southern car originally. It was a very clean all original car with the otiginal paint and only like 2 owners in all that time! The guy was asking $2,500 but that was about 30 years ago too. Sometimes i still kick myself for not buying it! My oldest brother had a 67 and a 68 Newport (both 2 dr hardtops, 383 V8) I will always have a soft spot for the C body Mopars.... ❤
Back in the early-mid 1960s, my mom had a convertible 2-door Chrysler Windsor with a police interceptor package: 426 Hemi, disc brakes, Dual quad carbs, a huge gas tank, and an eight tack player. I wish I had it, alas an ex-hubby drove it through a river and it died somewhat after 😞.
In the late 1980s when I was learning to drive my oldest brother had a 67 Newport 2 Dr hardtop 383 2bbl, 727 torque flight. Dark brown exterior. I also got to spend some time behind the wheel and it was a big fun car to drive! Chrysler's power steering was effortless and you could literally turn the wheel with just one finger! C body Mopars are cool cars for sure!
Sometime back in the mid 80’s we drove from San Diego to Raleigh NC. The 1969 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham(?) we used had the factory trailer towing package with the 440ci Magnum V8. My wife and I took turns at the wheel and made the trip in 48 hrs. It had shorter final drive ratio with the towing setup which gave it extra zip. 10 mpg no matter how you drove. Unsurpassed long distance machine.
You had me interested so I checked the price in New Zealand for one. I did manage to find one but unfortunately no photos yet and needs full compliance before being road legal here which could be a few thousand to tens of thousands depending how much needs to be done. The cost of the car here is $35k NZD or about 22k USD.
I bought a 1968 300 in 1979. It had the low performance 440 with a small spread bore avs. Tons of power and because it was very Rusty I took it to the demolition derby at Colorado National Speedway where I was the last car moving. $300 prize paid for the car.
i don't know what their rules were but the rules now have me shaking my head. Back then you took the battery home with you. The cars went to the scraper. Now they spend time and money modifying the cars and reinforcing them and take them to many derby events. It never seemed to be in the spirit of good competition to allow cars that were built for demo derbies. The New Yorker came from good stock and I remember the way the early 60's Imperials made a mess of the competition. They were 'tanks'.
@@keithstudly6071 one and done. A lincoln with good speed put my back bumper next to the rear wheel, but he was out after that. (I ran a cycle gas tank on the rear hump and removed the factory tank.)
I had the 4 door of this car. It came EQUIPPED with the Holley carb from the factory. Im betting this car is production as well. 440 engine was crazy powerful. The distributor had frozen mechanical weights and a bad vac advance unit! After fixing that (as a 16 year old boy no less) It would lay serious rubber. Mine had no 8 track. I went through 3 transmissions.
Very cool! Love these classic luxury barges. Back to planes, ever thought about doing a video on the Republic XF-12? Just a beautiful aircraft, and it's kind of like a superprop times four.
The Holley carburetor is probably 100% factory stock. Yes, the Carter AVS was normally used, but there were also 440's built with a Holley 4-barrel & a corresponding 4-barrel intake manifold which used a particular 'flat' choke thermostat which sat inside a "well" mounted inside the intake. (As opposed to the choke thermostat which mounted 'above' the intake manifold runners on the AVS intake.) I've owned two of these C-bodies - One with the Carter AVS, and the other with the Holley (which was not a very good carb.) Of the two, I definitely preferred the AVS. 🙂 'For the record', the AVS will 'bolt up' to the Holley intake... But the choke thermostat from the AVS won't fit & won't work with it. I know, I tried. 😕
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles - The Holleys were typically used on 300's with the 'low performance' (standard) 440. 🙂 The Chrysler TNT's in the 300 were supposed to be equipped with the AVS. At any rate - The Holley was not normally used in the New Yorker, but knowing Chrysler, it would totally not surprise me if the assembly line used some 'leftover parts' at the end of a shift.
My dad had a 69' Ford LTD with the 429 Cobra engine, least that's what the sticker said on the air cleaner. At 16 years old was racing it up a swoopy uphill with a steel guard rail separating the on coming traffic. I came into a rt hander hot maybe 80 mph. I lifted and began a 4 wheel drift into the railing. Nothing to do but ride it out. Scrumb enough speed it hooked back up and with 2 feet to spare save my dads boat. It had soft suspension with massive sway. Huge weight. Fast but forget the twisty's.
did this in my 69 impala early last month, first rain in a while got the roads slick in a few places and I wasnt slowing down dilligently enough around some steep corners I wasnt very familiar with. realized I was going too fast into a right hand bend and touched the brakes a little just to feel nothing and realized all I could do was hold on as all 4 uniroyals let go of the road. did a full 180 and ended up backwards on a side road entering the opposite of where I was coming from. stopped just short of knocking down a stop sign. thats a lot of car to spin around like that!
Beautiful. Memories of a better time, although for something that large, I'd prefer a camper van. :D I remember seeing my mate's fathers Jaguar V12, that engine JUST fit in the engine bay.
I had a 4 door - big dent in the RR door. It was a brute - it would chirp the tires when the trans shifted 1st to 2nd. It wasn't in great shape, but everything worked.
I’d argue the characterization that it was the car to go head to head with Cadillac from Chrysler. Instead, that was the Imperial division. At this time, it was a separate brand at Chrysler and went head to head in wheelbase, features, and price.
Yup thats a nice New Yorker. Looks really straight. Easy enough to find a rusty one for parts to replace the interior. Not my favourite body though. To my eye Chrysler really knocked it out of the park with the 69 fuselage body for the C-body’s. More interesting is that 66-67 B-body in the background :)
You’ve got me prowling marketplace 😂 Last thing I need is another project after the SC300, CTS wagon, and Frontier truck, but at the same time it’s hard to turn down a good deal ;) This brings back some memories of my grandfather’s Newport, thanks for that.
I had a '92 SC300 with the manual and a '95 front bumper more or less zip tied to it 😂 awesome car once I got the vacuum leaks in the crumbling EGR system fixed
@@scullystie4389 it’s fun, but some of the parts are getting difficult to find. Mine makes 600hp on pump gas and has the 5 speed manual. Midnight pearl.
@@drewski5730 sweet! Mine was stock except for an intake I mounted because the OEM had issues. The rear shocks were blown so I had plans to upgrade the suspension with some supra parts, but I never got around to it before I moved on from it.
@@scullystie4389 I’ve got coil overs, and the rest of the rear is getting custom arms and entirely rebuilt after I spun it this spring (by simply stepping on the gas pedal in a manner non conducive to safe operation). The car probably has $70k in mods on it, I’m into it for about $20k myself. You should find another one ;)
@@drewski5730 I salute you. Did you swap in a GTE? Funny story about that car, the 3rd or 4th day of driving it around I put a coffee cup in the fold out cupholder. First time I made a right turn it went right in my lap after that I never used it again!
Stupid question, but how much do you think it would cost to have someone restore this car to like new? I grew up driving a ‘63 Dodge station wagon with the 383. I loved the way it stalled a bit while the intake manifold would get wetted and then slam you back into the seat. You were actually pulling some gs there… :D
That's a good question. It's not so much the valves as the valve seats. It's not absolutely essential, but when overhauling these engines it's a good idea to put in hardened valve seats to help with unleaded fuel. It's also a good idea to convert to roller rockers and there are fuel system mods that should be done as well for modern fuels. None of this stuff is that big of a deal.
Don't bother buying and restoring this car. The owners of beautifully restored examples of cars of the 50s and 60s are dying left and right. Jump on the auction sites - the deals will get better and better as Father Time defeats all comers. I can't imagine anyone under 50 has any interest in these cars.
@@sadwingsraging3044 Yep, you never know what a car or motorcycle market is going to do, all it takes is one celebrity to be seen in something or for one to be in a hit movie and start a craze and the next thing you know something that people had no interest in skyrockets in value.
@@chrisc8156 I concur. Japanese 90’s cars are all the rage these days and have been for about a decade. What people don’t realize is the new generation is hot rodding electric cars, and they’re way faster than anything running gasoline. It won’t be long I feel before the market fully embraces the electric.
I've seen some softening in the classic British motorcycle market. Hard to know. I figured that WW2 arms like Lugers and Garands would be dropping in price right now, but that is certainly not the case.
Yup, the big luxury cars just are not worth that much. I understand why, but it's a pity, especially when cars that were dirt cheap like Road Runners are worth so much.
Nice car, not the best color. The Chryslers had much nicer dash than the other C bodies, Dodge Polara and Plymouth Fury. One of the benefits of these C bodies is that they are very solidly built cars, if you get in a serious accident, you will probably smash the modern car beyond recognition. This car was not in the same price range as Lincolns and Cadillacs though. If you want something in the Cadillac price range and luxury level, you have to go with Imperial (a bit more expensive than the Cadillacs actually). For the New Yorker, there were 3 optional 440s. The "plain" 440 with single exhaust and single snorkel air cleaner, rated at 350 hp gross, perhaps 250-270 real hp, but lots of low torque. The "dual 440" was identical inside, but had dual exhaust and dual snorkel. The gross rated power may have been 360, but real hp went up by 20-30hp. The dual exhaust really releases the upper end potential of the 440. The Magnum 440 was also an option, with a larger duration cam, which will move the torque curve a bit to the right, and was good for a real 330-350 hp (375 hp gross), and that will make that engine one of the most powerful of the era (most "high" performance engines from GM and Ford struggle to reach 300 real hp, regardless of the gross rating). When you ordered the Magnum, you also got a 3.23 rear (as opposed to a 2.76), which would give you a 15 second 1/4 mile, and 135-140 mph top speed, depending on how much you want to rev the 440, which could handle up to 5500 rpm. The Imperials only got the first two engine options. One of my Imperials have a cam two steps larger than the HP, and despite the extra 500+lbs and 2.94 rear, it seems to like it. The other one is milder, but still has more cam than original. Another thing that helps cars from Chrysler corporation was the superior transmissions, although GM and Ford were almost catching up by the late 60's.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles it was . By a long shot. As far as I'm concerned. I've owed or own a 61 Le Baron . Two black 64 le Barons and a good running 67 Crown .
My best friend’s dad’s car! Massive hood, like an aircraft carrier flight deck.
This channel never misses. Aviation and MoPar material, thats all i could ever ask for.
In the early to mid 1990s i almost bought a 67 Chrysler New Yorker 2 dr hardtop. It had the 440 as standard equipment, console, bucket seats, performance indicator (factory piece, sort of like a tach i believe) power brakes. Some nice options and a southern car originally. It was a very clean all original car with the otiginal paint and only like 2 owners in all that time! The guy was asking $2,500 but that was about 30 years ago too. Sometimes i still kick myself for not buying it! My oldest brother had a 67 and a 68 Newport (both 2 dr hardtops, 383 V8)
I will always have a soft spot for the C body Mopars.... ❤
Back in the early-mid 1960s, my mom had a convertible 2-door Chrysler Windsor with a police interceptor package: 426 Hemi, disc brakes, Dual quad carbs, a huge gas tank, and an eight tack player. I wish I had it, alas an ex-hubby drove it through a river and it died somewhat after 😞.
Learned to drive with a 66 Newport, the old Chrysler's are a soft spot for me.
In the late 1980s when I was learning to drive my oldest brother had a 67 Newport 2 Dr hardtop 383 2bbl, 727 torque flight. Dark brown exterior. I also got to spend some time behind the wheel and it was a big fun car to drive! Chrysler's power steering was effortless and you could literally turn the wheel with just one finger! C body Mopars are cool cars for sure!
Sometime back in the mid 80’s we drove from San Diego to Raleigh NC. The 1969 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham(?) we used had the factory trailer towing package with the 440ci Magnum V8. My wife and I took turns at the wheel and made the trip in 48 hrs. It had shorter final drive ratio with the towing setup which gave it extra zip. 10 mpg no matter how you drove. Unsurpassed long distance machine.
The size of that long trunk! You'd have to climb in to reach the full-sized spare.
A day of land barges. Lovely things to see.
You had me interested so I checked the price in New Zealand for one. I did manage to find one but unfortunately no photos yet and needs full compliance before being road legal here which could be a few thousand to tens of thousands depending how much needs to be done. The cost of the car here is $35k NZD or about 22k USD.
I bought a 1968 300 in 1979. It had the low performance 440 with a small spread bore avs. Tons of power and because it was very Rusty I took it to the demolition derby at Colorado National Speedway where I was the last car moving. $300 prize paid for the car.
i don't know what their rules were but the rules now have me shaking my head. Back then you took the battery home with you. The cars went to the scraper. Now they spend time and money modifying the cars and reinforcing them and take them to many derby events. It never seemed to be in the spirit of good competition to allow cars that were built for demo derbies. The New Yorker came from good stock and I remember the way the early 60's Imperials made a mess of the competition. They were 'tanks'.
@@keithstudly6071 one and done. A lincoln with good speed put my back bumper next to the rear wheel, but he was out after that. (I ran a cycle gas tank on the rear hump and removed the factory tank.)
I had the 4 door of this car. It came EQUIPPED with the Holley carb from the factory. Im betting this car is production as well. 440 engine was crazy powerful. The distributor had frozen mechanical weights and a bad vac advance unit! After fixing that (as a 16 year old boy no less) It would lay serious rubber. Mine had no 8 track. I went through 3 transmissions.
That thing is awesome. Thanks for sharing, Greg.
i love these things, late 50s to end of 60s, muricans made something very special
OK, but how does its turn and roll rate compare to a Bf-109G at high and medium altitudes?
HA HA you just gave me a fantastic funny idea. My next Ai gregs airplanes and automobiles parody video
With six people in each one?
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I have no objections to this video idea.
I expect it rolls very well, but handles terribly in tight turns trying to shake off the attacking Messerschmitt KR200 Bubble Car.
@@andrewdking how would it fare in a dogfight with a Mitsubishi A6M Starion?
Thank you for your content. With all due respect.
For a moment, I thought Greg found religion, cast aside those little Italian tarts and joined the Mopar flock.
No, I have always had Chrysler products. Chrysler is the Fiat of the US.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles that statement can be interpreted in several ways... 😉
@@michaelporzio7384
Most of them accurately.
Very cool! Love these classic luxury barges.
Back to planes, ever thought about doing a video on the Republic XF-12? Just a beautiful aircraft, and it's kind of like a superprop times four.
The Holley carburetor is probably 100% factory stock.
Yes, the Carter AVS was normally used, but there were also 440's built with a Holley 4-barrel & a corresponding 4-barrel intake manifold which used a particular 'flat' choke thermostat which sat inside a "well" mounted inside the intake. (As opposed to the choke thermostat which mounted 'above' the intake manifold runners on the AVS intake.)
I've owned two of these C-bodies - One with the Carter AVS, and the other with the Holley (which was not a very good carb.) Of the two, I definitely preferred the AVS. 🙂
'For the record', the AVS will 'bolt up' to the Holley intake... But the choke thermostat from the AVS won't fit & won't work with it. I know, I tried. 😕
I have never seen a New Yorker with a factory Holley, but maybe you're right.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles - The Holleys were typically used on 300's with the 'low performance' (standard) 440. 🙂 The Chrysler TNT's in the 300 were supposed to be equipped with the AVS.
At any rate - The Holley was not normally used in the New Yorker, but knowing Chrysler, it would totally not surprise me if the assembly line used some 'leftover parts' at the end of a shift.
My dad had a 69' Ford LTD with the 429 Cobra engine, least that's what the sticker said on the air cleaner. At 16 years old was racing it up a swoopy uphill with a steel guard rail separating the on coming traffic. I came into a rt hander hot maybe 80 mph. I lifted and began a 4 wheel drift into the railing. Nothing to do but ride it out. Scrumb enough speed it hooked back up and with 2 feet to spare save my dads boat. It had soft suspension with massive sway. Huge weight. Fast but forget the twisty's.
did this in my 69 impala early last month, first rain in a while got the roads slick in a few places and I wasnt slowing down dilligently enough around some steep corners I wasnt very familiar with. realized I was going too fast into a right hand bend and touched the brakes a little just to feel nothing and realized all I could do was hold on as all 4 uniroyals let go of the road. did a full 180 and ended up backwards on a side road entering the opposite of where I was coming from. stopped just short of knocking down a stop sign. thats a lot of car to spin around like that!
That wouldn’t happen in a New Yorker.
Beautiful. Memories of a better time, although for something that large, I'd prefer a camper van. :D
I remember seeing my mate's fathers Jaguar V12, that engine JUST fit in the engine bay.
MAN...I almost bought one of these back in 1989 for $800. Clearly I should have.
Beautiful!!!
Looks better than my old '67 Plymouth Fury III station wagon. But that was a tow car.
I had a 4 door - big dent in the RR door. It was a brute - it would chirp the tires when the trans shifted 1st to 2nd.
It wasn't in great shape, but everything worked.
Mopar big blocks are my favorite! Cool vid!
I’d argue the characterization that it was the car to go head to head with Cadillac from Chrysler. Instead, that was the Imperial division. At this time, it was a separate brand at Chrysler and went head to head in wheelbase, features, and price.
A dry climate helps.
Yup thats a nice New Yorker. Looks really straight. Easy enough to find a rusty one for parts to replace the interior. Not my favourite body though. To my eye Chrysler really knocked it out of the park with the 69 fuselage body for the C-body’s. More interesting is that 66-67 B-body in the background :)
You’ve got me prowling marketplace 😂
Last thing I need is another project after the SC300, CTS wagon, and Frontier truck, but at the same time it’s hard to turn down a good deal ;)
This brings back some memories of my grandfather’s Newport, thanks for that.
I had a '92 SC300 with the manual and a '95 front bumper more or less zip tied to it 😂 awesome car once I got the vacuum leaks in the crumbling EGR system fixed
@@scullystie4389 it’s fun, but some of the parts are getting difficult to find. Mine makes 600hp on pump gas and has the 5 speed manual. Midnight pearl.
@@drewski5730 sweet! Mine was stock except for an intake I mounted because the OEM had issues. The rear shocks were blown so I had plans to upgrade the suspension with some supra parts, but I never got around to it before I moved on from it.
@@scullystie4389 I’ve got coil overs, and the rest of the rear is getting custom arms and entirely rebuilt after I spun it this spring (by simply stepping on the gas pedal in a manner non conducive to safe operation). The car probably has $70k in mods on it, I’m into it for about $20k myself. You should find another one ;)
@@drewski5730 I salute you. Did you swap in a GTE?
Funny story about that car, the 3rd or 4th day of driving it around I put a coffee cup in the fold out cupholder. First time I made a right turn it went right in my lap after that I never used it again!
The 440 in my old Charger doesn't recognize hills. Downshift? What's that?
Stupid question, but how much do you think it would cost to have someone restore this car to like new?
I grew up driving a ‘63 Dodge station wagon with the 383. I loved the way it stalled a bit while the intake manifold would get wetted and then slam you back into the seat. You were actually pulling some gs there… :D
I don't know, that would be a question for a shop that does that kind of work. I don't.
It carried more than a WW2 bomber.
OT - A guy just got killed in a Fokker DVIII crash at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. Not sure of details yet.
That's sad.
Maybe you could get Jay Leno interested in restoring it .......
I bet that New Yorker is cringing at what Stellantis has become
Say, do restorers replace the valves on these old ladies to use modern fuel (to prevent microwelding)? Or are lead additives available.
That's a good question. It's not so much the valves as the valve seats. It's not absolutely essential, but when overhauling these engines it's a good idea to put in hardened valve seats to help with unleaded fuel. It's also a good idea to convert to roller rockers and there are fuel system mods that should be done as well for modern fuels. None of this stuff is that big of a deal.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Roller lifters?
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles ahh, so it's the valve seats, not the valves themselves. Thanks for the info👍🏻.
That thing is city block long ! I'll bet Everytime it goes by a service station it automatically tries to pull in Feed me feed me now !
You'll need to source an 8-track copy of "The White Album" for true authenticity...🤔
How many bodies can you stuff in that _ginormous_ trunk?
I don't know, but I heard it seats about 20.
Don't bother buying and restoring this car. The owners of beautifully restored examples of cars of the 50s and 60s are dying left and right. Jump on the auction sites - the deals will get better and better as Father Time defeats all comers. I can't imagine anyone under 50 has any interest in these cars.
You would be incorrect in your assumptions.😏
@@sadwingsraging3044
Yep, you never know what a car or motorcycle market is going to do, all it takes is one celebrity to be seen in something or for one to be in a hit movie and start a craze and the next thing you know something that people had no interest in skyrockets in value.
@@chrisc8156 I concur. Japanese 90’s cars are all the rage these days and have been for about a decade. What people don’t realize is the new generation is hot rodding electric cars, and they’re way faster than anything running gasoline. It won’t be long I feel before the market fully embraces the electric.
I've seen some softening in the classic British motorcycle market. Hard to know. I figured that WW2 arms like Lugers and Garands would be dropping in price right now, but that is certainly not the case.
Sadly, I’m shocked no one’s robbed the engine out of that for a clone. No one ever restores those, the market isn’t there.
Unibody though??
Well, yes, it has it's pros and cons. It was the way forward though...
Stock posi bro
i have a 1969 Cadillac sedan devile with a 7.7L 472cui , Trying to sell it and NO one wants to offer more than $4,000 ( im asking $7000) .
Yup, the big luxury cars just are not worth that much. I understand why, but it's a pity, especially when cars that were dirt cheap like Road Runners are worth so much.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
4 door is a curse , 2 doors are overpriced.
Nice car, not the best color. The Chryslers had much nicer dash than the other C bodies, Dodge Polara and Plymouth Fury. One of the benefits of these C bodies is that they are very solidly built cars, if you get in a serious accident, you will probably smash the modern car beyond recognition. This car was not in the same price range as Lincolns and Cadillacs though. If you want something in the Cadillac price range and luxury level, you have to go with Imperial (a bit more expensive than the Cadillacs actually). For the New Yorker, there were 3 optional 440s. The "plain" 440 with single exhaust and single snorkel air cleaner, rated at 350 hp gross, perhaps 250-270 real hp, but lots of low torque. The "dual 440" was identical inside, but had dual exhaust and dual snorkel. The gross rated power may have been 360, but real hp went up by 20-30hp. The dual exhaust really releases the upper end potential of the 440. The Magnum 440 was also an option, with a larger duration cam, which will move the torque curve a bit to the right, and was good for a real 330-350 hp (375 hp gross), and that will make that engine one of the most powerful of the era (most "high" performance engines from GM and Ford struggle to reach 300 real hp, regardless of the gross rating). When you ordered the Magnum, you also got a 3.23 rear (as opposed to a 2.76), which would give you a 15 second 1/4 mile, and 135-140 mph top speed, depending on how much you want to rev the 440, which could handle up to 5500 rpm. The Imperials only got the first two engine options. One of my Imperials have a cam two steps larger than the HP, and despite the extra 500+lbs and 2.94 rear, it seems to like it. The other one is milder, but still has more cam than original. Another thing that helps cars from Chrysler corporation was the superior transmissions, although GM and Ford were almost catching up by the late 60's.
The Imperial was actually caddy's competition
Some say the Imperial was above Cadillac.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles it was . By a long shot. As far as I'm concerned. I've owed or own a 61 Le Baron . Two black 64 le Barons and a good running 67 Crown .