Visas Marr's voice is done by Kelly Hu. She's the same actress who played "The Sorceress" in the movie The Scorpion King, Every time I see that movie I just couldn't help seeing Visas.
Obviously this is the inside joke amongst kotor 2 fans, but IMHO, Kreia's voice acting is literally the best voice acting, maybe best acting of any kind, in all star wars content ever imho
Amazing how Avellone didn't originally like Star Wars, but his dedication to his work really made one of the single best additions to the universe. The fact that people are still talking for hours about KOTOR 2 all these years later really makes me believe it might have been the pinnacle of well written Star Wars. Great video, the craving for more KOTOR never goes away. Please continue.
What makes Avellone's initial apprehension about Star Wars even more interesting is the fact that he made it quite clear that he did not like the idea of the Force. He really hated it apparently, but it's why he made Kreia's philosophy so antithetical to more traditional interpretations of the Force.
@@100StarWars In particular, I rather enjoyed discovering that he enjoyed the "sci-fi and fantasy parts" of Star Wars but he purportedly HATED the Force. This invisible all controlling Force that effectively just gave people the illusion of free-will (I get why he hates it! 😂😂). But I've always found it so clever that a choice driven RPG, that is all about choice and influence, was the vehicle for his commentary. It's quite remarkable to me that KOTOR 2 still manages to feel so faithful to Star Wars, but that's Avellone's extensive background reading showing. It's a truly nuanced commentary on one of the world's most popular fantasy epics.
Chris Avellone not being a fan of star wars was actually such a blessing in disguise for this game. The plot of KOTOR2 was such an in depth critique of all the absurd hypocrisies we see in the Star Wars universe. The Jedi being hypocritical cowards that cast out and judge their fallen students without reflecting on their own code/teachings being flawed. The Sith preaching freedom, but ultimately being doomed to infighting and betrayal, preventing any longevity to the power they seek. The force itself having a will of its own, and influencing events through sheer coincidence in the name of balance, while trillions die, and governments destabilize after consecutive wars in the process. No other piece of SW media has gotten close to the depth and reflection this game brings to the table. And its sad because the new canon is trying to be more nuanced (jedi and sith = both bad dur hur) but doesn't prescribe any meaningful solution or story in its place.
IMO the new (Disney) StarWars content isn't anything close to subtle at all. The way I see it, they nuked the EU so they could (incompetently) copy-and-paste the best elements of the EU into the Sequels: The same way that JarJar Abrams shittily copied the OT when making TFA.
Chris Avellone's dedication to Star Wars despite him not liking the subject beforehand really shows. I still have a strong suspicion that Drew Karpyshyn mistreated the Exile just because he was butthurt that Kotor 2 had leagues superior writing than Kotor 1
@@G59forlife. yes, that's the guy. Bane's trilogy is fun but not super complex. I recently visited his website and dude is very, very full of himself. He wrote swtor and the god awful Revan novel, there's simply no redemption afterwards.
really Avellone didn't like star wars? That's news to me. He did a fantastic job with the writing on KOTOR 2, the writing is a big part of why its my favorite game ever
"Atris" is also an anagram of "Trias", a corrupted angel in Planescape: Torment, one of Obsidian's other famously good CRPGs. Likewise, a lot of Kriea's character was inspired by things that Avellone wanted to do with Ravel Puzzlewell, another Planescape character, but didn't have the opportunity to include.
@@budakbaongsiah Obsidian was basically the continuation of Black Isle after Black Isle was shuttered. Pretty much all of the leads went there, and especially all the writers.
Chris Avellone also saw the Holiday Special, I like to imagine he was gonna make Kreia the heroic Jedi until he saw that and believed that only a malevolent Force would allow that to exist and made Kreia the Kreia we all know and love.
The mining clothes you find at the beginning of the game, are the only clothes that bao-dur can wear and still use the force unimpeded. Since all armour's impede the use of the forces. Due to bao's arm he can't wear Jedi robes.
About the Marr ancestry: there is actually a mirlauka jedi named Marr in the bounty hunter storyline so one would assume its the descendant of our Visas.
@@deadeye4047 Did you know the Jamie Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy and John F. Kennedy are not related... they just have the same last name. Kevin Bacon and Francis Bacon aren't related. Nor is James Wolfe, Thomas Wolfe or Tom Wolfe. people can have the same name and not be directly related... I'm not sure why Star Wars fans think this isn't the case.
@@Kaziklu I know, same with Rey "Skywalker" and Luke Skywalker. Chill, I'm just having a bit of fun. Also, did you know that most Mirilukans were killed off by Darth Nihilus in KOTOR 2, making the chances that the Marr that the Bounty Hunter kills and actual descendant of Visas Marr all the more likely?
@@deadeye4047 I likely did at one point.. but I go outside sometimes. Also a 5 minutes check says it is actually LESS likely. Visas Marr was the only survivor of her Colony (one of many) meaning the odds that Adeline Marr is not related is significantly Decreased. Particularly as Jedi (as Visas Marr becomes) don't have offspring generally... and given that her primary companion after her colony was destroyed was a no corporal Sith. More so... As that race tends to be more likely to be a Jedi... and only one Colony was destroyed, and it has only been about 13 generations (likely less in reality) Of the Millions of her race only a little 8000 could be her direct ancestor at the time of Visas. Given the Visas likely had no children and that so little time has passed, it is actually unlikely they are related. I was able to come to this conclusion and still go outside...
I don't know how useless would be to mention that Kreia might be Arren Kae, an exiled jedi master, therefore being Brienna's mother. Even though there's no confirmation. White hair isn't an indicator due to Kreia's being white probably from age. But I found the idea amusing that the "betreyal" she whispers through force to Atris is Kreia's being somewhat proud/happy that Brienna broke the oath and betrayed Atris.
I always thought that Kreia was actually sad Brianna followed her footsteps and betrayed her order to be with a man just like she did. Probably does not rank high on the list of thinks she thinks were good decisions. I assumed she was saddened because her daughter had given up everything she was up to that point for simple desire for being with someone, and that would be horrendous weakness in Kreia's eyes.
@@marcojoinha I see it very differently- Kreia calls her "servant of Atris" with visible disgust, seeing her as just a pawn in Atris games, a slave to ideology of jedi guardians. In my interpretation she sees Brianna betraying Atris teachings as becoming free, clashing the ideology she believed in with reality, shattering it and building a new one ( I think Kreia teaches something about making your own complete ideology during the wookie lesson, sadly the game script bugged during my last playthrough and I didn't get the dialogue with Kreia where I can discuss it). But You do have a very valid point with seeing falling in love as weakness, it's why Kreia admires that Revan left everything he valued and loved behind to fight in this new conflict he pursued. In some places attachments like that are only a weakness, although Luke Skywalker would probably still call them sources of his strength, something that can push him above and beyond
probably, Vrook is worse than my ex gf, dude can blame Exile for EVERYTHING. "I lost in pazaak with that mandalorian mercenary. It's obviously done through the hatred that mandalorians feel for what Revan army did. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war" "my flowers don't want to grow even though I water them everyday. It must be due to the damage the Mandalorian war did to this planet. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war"
LOL me too. almost every game I'm like "alright, this is the playthrough, I can do this. am I sticking with the Lightside, no more switching to...*Atris makes her first entry and opens her mouth* Me: "ahh fuck it..."
Two for one Kotor 1 + 2 fact: Revan's cardboard cape Darth Revan's full set of robes (with mask and cape) are a super popular choice for players to wear in both games via mods. By default, the cape is not animated, is as stiff as cardboard and will show Revan's legs and arms clipping through it all the time when doing anything besides standing still. This is because regular NPC and player animations were not intended to be used on the Revan model, so no attempt was made to animate it, as the only time it is seen in game is in the revelation cutscene. All other scenes of Revan are pre-rendered animations not in the game's engine. It would've been extra unnecessary work, so it's somewhat understandable. In Kotor 2, you actually do see Revan in-game use the player/NPC animation set because you fight him as a vision in the tomb of Ludo Kressh. In cut content, you were also supposed to face the dark doppelganger of you that was briefly standing next to Revan before fading away. His model is exactly the same as in Kotor 1, meaning the cape is not animated and will look just as ridiculous as it did in the first game if modded into it. Obsidian probably didn't have time to animate the cape given the game's rushed nature, but I like to think it was more of a lazy easter egg that referenced how modding the player as Darth Revan in the first Kotor was one of the first things players did when they got the PC version of the game, only to be distraught when Revan's glorious cape has the properties of sandpaper. You can download mods to give Revan a properly animated cape for both Kotor and TSL. Both mods which have excellent quality animations which is impressive considering how difficult it is to mod animations and new models into the game.
BONUS KOTOR 1 FACT: 5:24 "Full Darth Revan outfit" While it is possible to get Darth Revan's robes if you are on a dark side playthrough, it is impossible to get his mask and you have to edit your model to "Darth Revan" with the Kotor Save Editor from the Steam Workshop (I highly recommend it playing as Darth Revan throughout the whole game with his robes AND mask be it light side or dark is super cool. Also makes something funny happen during the "plot twist" scene.)
It's still a huge shame that we didn't find out what really happened to Jolee, Mission, Zaalbar, and Juhani during and after the events of the game... would have loved hearing at least some implications of what happened to them. Still, another great vid, even if it's, again, not useless. Also, if you want more vids with this format, try using the Darth Bane trilogy, the Tales of the Jedi comics, the Knights of the Old Republic comics, the post-RotJ Legends materials from The Truce at Bakura to The Unifying Force, and the Legacy comics as templates.
They're good suggestions! I have so many ideas for this kinda video. I'm not sure if I should go full steam ahead with making them or take a break lmao
Wasn't it implied that if you play Light Side in K1, Jolee and Juhani rejoin the Jedi Order? Perhaps either Sion hunted them down and slaughtered them both one-by-one, or they were on Katarr when Nihilus ate the planet.
@@michaelandreipalon359 it would also explain why Vandar and Dorak aren't in TSL tbh. I wish we had either of those two instead of Vrook, stories say he was far worse than Revan and Malak ever were.
Visas Marr is, in fact, an ancestor of a Miraluka Jedi you meet as a Bounty Hunter. Also, you can ignore Visas until after you've made the handmaiden a Jedi, because by then, you've completed the objective of forming a new Jedi order within the bounds of your ship, at least as far as she's concerned. After that, there is no massive jealousy on the handmaiden's part.
Useless you say? I beg to differ good sir! This was pleasantly informative and enjoyable and I do look forward to more of these! 10:09 The annoyance in your voice, it's pure gold
Kelly Hu (Visas) has a fantastic voice. the voice actress for the Handmaiden also voices the female Bounty hunter player character in SWTOR. Not sure if you have that useless fact in the SWTOR video, I'm gonna watch that next.
Hmm, a "Useless Info" vid about the Tales of the Jedi comics might come in handy... even if we know less about it than even the KotOR games. Not many of us read comics, you know, and even if we can, they're a bit rare.
There is so much greatness with this video I don't even know where to start! xD First of Chris Avellone is a boss! If he was not a SW fan before he started his homework, I bet he was after. I laughed in the part where you mention Meetra's hair color. xD These videos are very good! Keep them coming. ^^
Dave Filoni hasn't put out anything good without George Lucas. And Chris Avellone only made one significant Star Wars work, and that work didn't really influence the Star Wars lore outside of TLJ and a couple of nods in TOR. I think people like Timothy Zahn and Drew Karpyshyn deserve those spots more, especially Timothy Zahn.
@@comicsans1689well, Drew Karpyshyn ruined Revan And Meetra Surik stories, so the one who really matters is Anthony Zhan and even his work is get ruined by LucasFilms :'(
My friend like I said in your last video, this is not useless information at all!!!! Your videos are always fascinating, intriguing and insightful because you continue to expand my limited knowledge of Star Wars. I know you enjoy Unreal Cinema's fan remake of KOTOR just like I enjoy KOTOR Movie Saga and Darthycey's work but again I'm still hoping Disney and Lucasfilms will make Knights of the Old Republic into an animated series someday. Last week on July 27th at her movie premiere, Felicity Jones said "I never shut the door on Jyn Erso" it makes me so happy when she says that. Felicity talked about the possibility of returning to Star Wars so I'm still hopeful for that since Cassian Andor is getting his own show. Last thing my friend is I hope you don't mind me constantly bugging you to do a review at the end of season 1 for the Bad Batch series
My friend did you see today's episode of the Bad Batch? Kamino destroyed!!!! I couldn't believe it, it ends that era of Star Wars history. Please let me know what you thought it
Correct me if I am wrong, the name "Darth Nihilus" appears in one of the journal logs, but was never explicitly spoken by any character in the game. In KOTOR II, he was simply referred to as "Visas' Master", "Master of the Ship (Ravager)", and so on. If true, this kind of highlights the fact that Darth Nihilus is merely a Dark Side reflection of Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile) and what she could have become had she turned to the Dark Side.
I highly recommend reading the Knights of the old republic comic series. It follows a jedi named Zach in the years leading up to the Jedi civil war. If you've played K.O.T.O.R. 1 &2 there are a lot of characters you'll recognize being placed into the world.
His story would make a really good series but I doubt that they would make it well. All they would have to do is follow the comics but they would hate that
I can’t help but grin when you talk about the cut content, since in just a week the game is coming to the Switch, and there will be DLC for the cut content
a few enemies like the two "bosses" on onderon level with you. i found that out the hard way when i used an exploid with the dead jedi (3:13) to get my little jedi to max level (on xbox). it took a while to defeat the general...
@@100StarWars and I always use the canonical head mod when I play the game on PC. Also if you want the link, these are where I get the mod from: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=486299564
@@backtothefutureman1 me either if anything obsidian did a great job considering all the trouble lucasfilm put them through with production. i loved the first one, but after playing KOTOR 2 with restored content mod, it became my favorite
I mean technically you can’t say that anything in Kotor is canon because it was decanonized by the Disney Corporation. Also what made certain things like the exile being female or her hair being brown “canon” was Drew Karpyshyn’s “Revan” novel. The Revan novel is pretty contentious among fans of Kotor 2 because it was written solely to fill some of the gap between Kotor 2 and Swtor, yet it was very clear that Karpyshyn knew very little about Kotor 2 and the novel suffers for it.
Technically you can but you cannot say it is Disney's canon Canon just means that it is the original story or how the story is supposed to be, for example: canonically Revan is a man and marries Bastila Sure you can choose a female player if you wish, but that's not the canon story (not Disney's canon, just the canon story)
@@Dave-mf6tj No… you can’t… There is currently one canon in Star Wars and that is Disney’s Canon. Personally I hate that, but that doesn’t change it. But let’s just say for the sake of discussion that you’re right and it is how “the original story is meant to be.” KOTOR is an RPG. Many of the things about the game such as character appearance/choices are up to the player. When KOTOR was released there was no official “How it’s meant to be.” That’s the whole point of an RPG. The “canon” that this guy is talking about comes from a book that was written 8 years after KOTOR was released.
@@pauljohnson2911 that's because you are not understanding the meaning of the word "canon" There is a canon story, which you can read in the novel, or are you saying that the novel is also an RPG book? Because I have read the novel and Revan married Bastila and they have a son, Bastila felt a bit of jealousy because of Meetra and so forth, there is canon within legends Another example of canon within legends is Zannah, she is a female sith trained by Bane, she is not Disney canon but he character being a woman is the correct canon story
@@pauljohnson2911 and about your point regarding the novel, a character or a story does not stop being canon because more lore was available years later It's like saying that all the continuity errors found between the prequels and the OT make the prequels non-canon simply because some of those details didn't make sense or were changed decades lates to fill in gaps and plot holes
@@pauljohnson2911 and for the sake of argument let's say that Revan is not a man, or woman or anything, what about Bastila, is she not a woman? Well, she is, and that is the canon story in both the game and the book, yet your initial statement was that we can't say any of the things in KOTOR are canon, and my response to you was that canon can mean different things depending on the context
I know this is an old video but at 8:57 (9:04 on the video) the sith temple on Dxun and the ritual... is this... what is happening in the new game Star Wars Eclipse? I mean the little pool is there.... i might be speaking nonsense but... it would be fun it it was tbh. just a thought.
@@100StarWars Just watched your newest video, another great one. I have been a fan of your channel for awhile and always enjoy your take on Star Wars. Keep up the good work!
KOTOR 2 with another year or two of development would have blown everything about KOTOR 1 out of the water. Its writing already does. We always hear from Sith about how Jedi are bad and from Jedi about how Sith are bad...but it wasn't until I played this game that I truly understood how messed up both groups are. KOTOR 2 seems a bit grimdark and it has real consequences shown from the first game. KOTOR 1 was an amazing game and I love it...but it wasn't that much different than a typical hero's journey space opera (minus the twist). I never felt dread or shame for what I did in the first game. In the second game, just helping some refugees on Nar Shaddaa causes more harm.
Useless fact: 1:50 Jolee's robe is the only thing restricted to neutrality in KOTOR 2. Every other restriction forces you to take a for/against stance: items, force powers, the dark cave, alignment, influence, and whether to give money to the beggar or not. The game really really don't like Apathy, except if it's clouded in a cunning way (e.g. the neutral shrouded dark side of Kreia or if you pretend to be good only to abuse naive people such as Chodo Habat or Dantoine) to some other goal.
If only Disney would put the same dedication as Chris Avellone when he was writing SW KOTOR 2, maybe then we would not get those a disaster which is a Sequel Trilogy.
When I first saw Nihilus' mask I thought it was very familiar. I swear I've seen it somewhere but I can't remember where. Edit: Visas Marr is a Miraluka, Darth Marr is a human. How can they be related?
Chris Avellone in my opinion, to date, might be the only writer who sucessfully attempted to elevate Star Wars above the average space opera good vs. evil adventure scenarios ubiquitous in all other Star Wars media. It made attempts to explore the nature of The Force, to make it more than a plot device that allows the good guys to save the day. But, alas, like many other ambitious writers, his developments were cut short by corporate greed. I hope I don't sound too pompous, but I feel like this is the only piece of star wars media that, in terms of story and world building, rises above the rest in the franchise and shows a more mature side while still maintaining a Teen ESRB rating. By "mature" I don't mean gratuitous swearing and sex scenes between siblings but things that went completely over my head when I played it as a teenager.
how many times is enough times for the Echani poetry and the angelic pickup line? Also, I don't remember the Handmaiden ever giving me a game-long silent treatment, did i play a bugged version of the game?
10:28 it is more lilely inconsistent, as I know it was only brown in the Revan novel, but this canonical playermodel from kotor 2 has blond hair, this is just modded to look like from the novel, and in swtor she has blonde hair aswell. So my theory is that she has brown hair, but she dyed it.
@@100StarWars That's interesting becouse I haven't seen anything like this before that they made the ghosts hair white just becouse it's a force ghost. And she didn't diead at an old age, so I doubt her hair was greying. But what other sorce states she had brown hair outside the Revan novel? And than which is the canonical playermodel from kotor 2? There isn't any white woman with brown hair and blue eyes, only green or brown eyes one. Only the blonde ones come with blue eyes. And this playermodel looks the most like her from swtor, has the same eyecolour.
Always wondered, what is the deal with that side mission with that dude that claims to rightfully own the Ebon Hawk? I wonder is it a scam? Does one threaten or kill the dude? How is that resolved fairly (light side)?
From what I recall, he later takes over your ship with a bunch of trandoshans, then he gets betrayed by said trandoshans, I think. Never trust a trandoshan.
It is almost certainly his ship, based on his responses telling you a load of info about the ship only someone with genuine experience with it would understand. In cut content, he will enter the ebon hawk at the same moment the Red Eclipse slavers (the Trandos and other aliens you fight on it) come aboard. They will ask him if he is the rightful owner of the ship. He confirms it, then is knocked out by one of the mooks and is detained. When you confront the Red Eclipse leader in the Ebon Hawk, If you kill the leader, the 'rightful owner' of the Ebon Hawk will tell you that there was a misunderstanding and that you can have his ship back and he leaves. If you let the Red Eclipse leader live so that they will serve and pay you, the exile offers the 'rightful owner' as a slave to the Red Eclipse for their spice mines.
Pretty sure it's the dude from the first KOTOR that you free on the Leviathan, no? And the comments already explained what should've happened (which gets restored in TSLCRM
Visas Marr's voice is HOT - Who's ready for a SWTOR version of this? Muahahaha! Also, come follow me on twitter thx
Dew itttttttttt
Visas Marr's voice is done by Kelly Hu. She's the same actress who played "The Sorceress" in the movie The Scorpion King,
Every time I see that movie I just couldn't help seeing Visas.
I’m ready for it. I got the name too…
Kelly Hu in that movie was one of my childhood crushes lmao
A SWTOR version would be pretty interesting.
‘‘Visas' voice is best thing ever”
Influence lost: Kreia.
Hahahaha
To this day, we still wish we could charge up her loading ramp :(
@@100StarWars considering the fact that she's voiced by Kelly Hu, I'd have to agree with you 100%.
Obviously this is the inside joke amongst kotor 2 fans, but IMHO, Kreia's voice acting is literally the best voice acting, maybe best acting of any kind, in all star wars content ever imho
@@maxparish3563 that's why I put this reaction in the first place, but Kelly hu Comes really close as Visas Marr.
Amazing how Avellone didn't originally like Star Wars, but his dedication to his work really made one of the single best additions to the universe. The fact that people are still talking for hours about KOTOR 2 all these years later really makes me believe it might have been the pinnacle of well written Star Wars. Great video, the craving for more KOTOR never goes away. Please continue.
or that the games today are poorly written and easily forgettable
Glad you enjoyed it!
Outside of the OT, Kotor 2 is the single best piece of Star Wars content IMO.
I would not call this "Useless Information".
@@andrewhennagir1331 this doesn’t necessarily take anything away from KOTOR 2 being good. Just means that nothing since has been good.
What makes Avellone's initial apprehension about Star Wars even more interesting is the fact that he made it quite clear that he did not like the idea of the Force. He really hated it apparently, but it's why he made Kreia's philosophy so antithetical to more traditional interpretations of the Force.
Indeed! His disdain for it is what made KOTOR 2 so interesting!
@@100StarWars In particular, I rather enjoyed discovering that he enjoyed the "sci-fi and fantasy parts" of Star Wars but he purportedly HATED the Force. This invisible all controlling Force that effectively just gave people the illusion of free-will (I get why he hates it! 😂😂). But I've always found it so clever that a choice driven RPG, that is all about choice and influence, was the vehicle for his commentary. It's quite remarkable to me that KOTOR 2 still manages to feel so faithful to Star Wars, but that's Avellone's extensive background reading showing. It's a truly nuanced commentary on one of the world's most popular fantasy epics.
Chris Avellone not being a fan of star wars was actually such a blessing in disguise for this game.
The plot of KOTOR2 was such an in depth critique of all the absurd hypocrisies we see in the Star Wars universe. The Jedi being hypocritical cowards that cast out and judge their fallen students without reflecting on their own code/teachings being flawed. The Sith preaching freedom, but ultimately being doomed to infighting and betrayal, preventing any longevity to the power they seek. The force itself having a will of its own, and influencing events through sheer coincidence in the name of balance, while trillions die, and governments destabilize after consecutive wars in the process.
No other piece of SW media has gotten close to the depth and reflection this game brings to the table. And its sad because the new canon is trying to be more nuanced (jedi and sith = both bad dur hur) but doesn't prescribe any meaningful solution or story in its place.
I agree!
IMO the new (Disney) StarWars content isn't anything close to subtle at all.
The way I see it, they nuked the EU so they could (incompetently) copy-and-paste the best elements of the EU into the Sequels: The same way that JarJar Abrams shittily copied the OT when making TFA.
@@ALoveEternal exactly! Almost everything they have brought is a deformed copy of the EU!
@@ALoveEternal the ST literally feels like a bunch of mediocre MCU movies with a OT star wars skin on them
@@dtxspeaks268 It's not even that good. It's just completely crap. Not even worth watching. Only good one at all was Rouge One
Chris Avellone's dedication to Star Wars despite him not liking the subject beforehand really shows. I still have a strong suspicion that Drew Karpyshyn mistreated the Exile just because he was butthurt that Kotor 2 had leagues superior writing than Kotor 1
Isnt he the same guy who wrote the Darth Bane novels? And then I'm guessing hes the one who wrote swtor 😬
Fallen far..
@@G59forlife. yes, that's the guy. Bane's trilogy is fun but not super complex. I recently visited his website and dude is very, very full of himself. He wrote swtor and the god awful Revan novel, there's simply no redemption afterwards.
@@miqvPL yikes...
Shouldn't have left ME3 in favor of that Star Wars MMO that's now going nowhere.
really Avellone didn't like star wars? That's news to me. He did a fantastic job with the writing on KOTOR 2, the writing is a big part of why its my favorite game ever
STATEMENT: APATHY IS DEATH!!!!!
Edit: Darth Sion is actually named “Sleeps with Vibro-blade”...
My bad, lemme edit the video
So now we have sleeps with vibro-blade and dreadlocks under that Hood and her rocks Them good.
@@lordnihilus3198 no... We have “Sleeps with Vibro-blade” and “Hungry Hungry Sith-o” lol
Sion and Surik sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G…
n O.
Man sion is a corpse lol.
@@bryuhMan I was gonna say, exile is giving kiss of death 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahaha
My Milo Surik grabs Sion and throws him into space…
If I were to guess, Kreia’s rate this video a
“Influence gained; Kreia
Influence lost; Kreia”
Out of 10.
You mention the grey robes but not the line: "We call it pulling a Bindo."? That was one of my favorite parts
Kreia is hands down one of my favorite characters. She was written and voiced so well
Pun intended?
@@mikeclarke5732 The pun was unintended, but holy shit 😂
"Atris" is also an anagram of "Trias", a corrupted angel in Planescape: Torment, one of Obsidian's other famously good CRPGs. Likewise, a lot of Kriea's character was inspired by things that Avellone wanted to do with Ravel Puzzlewell, another Planescape character, but didn't have the opportunity to include.
Oo, interesting! I've never played that game myself!
I always found it too coincidental that Avellone wrote 2 gray-haired, cosmological anarchists. Both were absolutely amazing though
Planescape was made by Black Isle.
@@budakbaongsiah Obsidian was basically the continuation of Black Isle after Black Isle was shuttered. Pretty much all of the leads went there, and especially all the writers.
@@matthewgagnon9426
Well, not anymore.
Chris Avellone also saw the Holiday Special, I like to imagine he was gonna make Kreia the heroic Jedi until he saw that and believed that only a malevolent Force would allow that to exist and made Kreia the Kreia we all know and love.
Lmao
The mining clothes you find at the beginning of the game, are the only clothes that bao-dur can wear and still use the force unimpeded. Since all armour's impede the use of the forces. Due to bao's arm he can't wear Jedi robes.
About the Marr ancestry: there is actually a mirlauka jedi named Marr in the bounty hunter storyline so one would assume its the descendant of our Visas.
I get asked about the Darth Marr/Visas connection weekly it feels lmao
I was just about to mention this.
@@deadeye4047 Did you know the Jamie Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy and John F. Kennedy are not related... they just have the same last name. Kevin Bacon and Francis Bacon aren't related. Nor is James Wolfe, Thomas Wolfe or Tom Wolfe.
people can have the same name and not be directly related... I'm not sure why Star Wars fans think this isn't the case.
@@Kaziklu I know, same with Rey "Skywalker" and Luke Skywalker. Chill, I'm just having a bit of fun. Also, did you know that most Mirilukans were killed off by Darth Nihilus in KOTOR 2, making the chances that the Marr that the Bounty Hunter kills and actual descendant of Visas Marr all the more likely?
@@deadeye4047 I likely did at one point.. but I go outside sometimes.
Also a 5 minutes check says it is actually LESS likely. Visas Marr was the only survivor of her Colony (one of many) meaning the odds that Adeline Marr is not related is significantly Decreased. Particularly as Jedi (as Visas Marr becomes) don't have offspring generally... and given that her primary companion after her colony was destroyed was a no corporal Sith.
More so... As that race tends to be more likely to be a Jedi... and only one Colony was destroyed, and it has only been about 13 generations (likely less in reality) Of the Millions of her race only a little 8000 could be her direct ancestor at the time of Visas.
Given the Visas likely had no children and that so little time has passed, it is actually unlikely they are related.
I was able to come to this conclusion and still go outside...
I don't know how useless would be to mention that Kreia might be Arren Kae, an exiled jedi master, therefore being Brienna's mother. Even though there's no confirmation. White hair isn't an indicator due to Kreia's being white probably from age. But I found the idea amusing that the "betreyal" she whispers through force to Atris is Kreia's being somewhat proud/happy that Brienna broke the oath and betrayed Atris.
I always thought that Kreia was actually sad Brianna followed her footsteps and betrayed her order to be with a man just like she did. Probably does not rank high on the list of thinks she thinks were good decisions. I assumed she was saddened because her daughter had given up everything she was up to that point for simple desire for being with someone, and that would be horrendous weakness in Kreia's eyes.
@@marcojoinha I see it very differently- Kreia calls her "servant of Atris" with visible disgust, seeing her as just a pawn in Atris games, a slave to ideology of jedi guardians. In my interpretation she sees Brianna betraying Atris teachings as becoming free, clashing the ideology she believed in with reality, shattering it and building a new one ( I think Kreia teaches something about making your own complete ideology during the wookie lesson, sadly the game script bugged during my last playthrough and I didn't get the dialogue with Kreia where I can discuss it).
But You do have a very valid point with seeing falling in love as weakness, it's why Kreia admires that Revan left everything he valued and loved behind to fight in this new conflict he pursued. In some places attachments like that are only a weakness, although Luke Skywalker would probably still call them sources of his strength, something that can push him above and beyond
This one is quite common, and I placed others facts above it and couldn't quite fit it in.
The fact Chris Avellone hates Star Wars explains a few things
Explain curious 👀
@@Mauricekaip oh you mean that gotcha
"Hatred is a gift."
@@PapitoQinn ayyy my man
Hated*
10:58 If Atris is the second biggest “beep” who’s the first? Vrook Lamar?
probably, Vrook is worse than my ex gf, dude can blame Exile for EVERYTHING.
"I lost in pazaak with that mandalorian mercenary. It's obviously done through the hatred that mandalorians feel for what Revan army did. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war"
"my flowers don't want to grow even though I water them everyday. It must be due to the damage the Mandalorian war did to this planet. This would never happen if the Exile didn't follow Revan to war"
Pong Krell
Yup, Vrook is the ultimate Dickhead of star wars.
There's only one Vrook.
the first is that girl mechanic from the last trilogy of films. xD
The hatred for atris fuels every playthrough i have in kotor 2
LOL me too. almost every game I'm like "alright, this is the playthrough, I can do this. am I sticking with the Lightside, no more switching to...*Atris makes her first entry and opens her mouth*
Me: "ahh fuck it..."
same i despised her since the first time i played KOTOR 2, just like how i hated vrook since the first time i played kotor
Hahahahaha, mood.
Talks about Chris Avellone not liking TLJ
Me who likes the Sequels but understand context:
*_"Understandable, ... Have a great day"_*
Hahahahah
TLJ was irredeemable trash that killed the franchise.
@@reddeaddude2187 Fuck naw
I love the Last Jedi, but I can accept Avellone’s opinion. I agree it has too many subplots.
Two for one Kotor 1 + 2 fact: Revan's cardboard cape
Darth Revan's full set of robes (with mask and cape) are a super popular choice for players to wear in both games via mods. By default, the cape is not animated, is as stiff as cardboard and will show Revan's legs and arms clipping through it all the time when doing anything besides standing still. This is because regular NPC and player animations were not intended to be used on the Revan model, so no attempt was made to animate it, as the only time it is seen in game is in the revelation cutscene. All other scenes of Revan are pre-rendered animations not in the game's engine. It would've been extra unnecessary work, so it's somewhat understandable.
In Kotor 2, you actually do see Revan in-game use the player/NPC animation set because you fight him as a vision in the tomb of Ludo Kressh. In cut content, you were also supposed to face the dark doppelganger of you that was briefly standing next to Revan before fading away. His model is exactly the same as in Kotor 1, meaning the cape is not animated and will look just as ridiculous as it did in the first game if modded into it. Obsidian probably didn't have time to animate the cape given the game's rushed nature, but I like to think it was more of a lazy easter egg that referenced how modding the player as Darth Revan in the first Kotor was one of the first things players did when they got the PC version of the game, only to be distraught when Revan's glorious cape has the properties of sandpaper.
You can download mods to give Revan a properly animated cape for both Kotor and TSL. Both mods which have excellent quality animations which is impressive considering how difficult it is to mod animations and new models into the game.
In KotOR 2 restored content mod, you do fight the vision of yourself next to Revan in the tomb. It’s not a long fight, but it does happen.
BONUS KOTOR 1 FACT:
5:24 "Full Darth Revan outfit"
While it is possible to get Darth Revan's robes if you are on a dark side playthrough, it is impossible to get his mask and you have to edit your model to "Darth Revan" with the Kotor Save Editor from the Steam Workshop
(I highly recommend it playing as Darth Revan throughout the whole game with his robes AND mask be it light side or dark is super cool. Also makes something funny happen during the "plot twist" scene.)
What happens differently during the plot twist part?
@@Kolonol1 ok *SPOILER* You don't have a face lol. He takes of his mask and nothing is there so you see this floating hood lol
@@shinymk6562 oh wow...creepy HAHAHAHA but funny still
*shudders* Really hate faceless entities.
It's still a huge shame that we didn't find out what really happened to Jolee, Mission, Zaalbar, and Juhani during and after the events of the game... would have loved hearing at least some implications of what happened to them.
Still, another great vid, even if it's, again, not useless. Also, if you want more vids with this format, try using the Darth Bane trilogy, the Tales of the Jedi comics, the Knights of the Old Republic comics, the post-RotJ Legends materials from The Truce at Bakura to The Unifying Force, and the Legacy comics as templates.
They're good suggestions! I have so many ideas for this kinda video. I'm not sure if I should go full steam ahead with making them or take a break lmao
@@100StarWars Thanks.
Your call, not mine.
Wasn't it implied that if you play Light Side in K1, Jolee and Juhani rejoin the Jedi Order?
Perhaps either Sion hunted them down and slaughtered them both one-by-one, or they were on Katarr when Nihilus ate the planet.
@@GayFishYe Oh, hope they did a Bastila and survived.
@@michaelandreipalon359 it would also explain why Vandar and Dorak aren't in TSL tbh. I wish we had either of those two instead of Vrook, stories say he was far worse than Revan and Malak ever were.
Visas Marr is, in fact, an ancestor of a Miraluka Jedi you meet as a Bounty Hunter.
Also, you can ignore Visas until after you've made the handmaiden a Jedi, because by then, you've completed the objective of forming a new Jedi order within the bounds of your ship, at least as far as she's concerned. After that, there is no massive jealousy on the handmaiden's part.
Useless you say? I beg to differ good sir!
This was pleasantly informative and enjoyable and I do look forward to more of these!
10:09 The annoyance in your voice, it's pure gold
God that arguement in my comment sections damaged my braincells xD
Kelly Hu (Visas) has a fantastic voice.
the voice actress for the Handmaiden also voices the female Bounty hunter player character in SWTOR. Not sure if you have that useless fact in the SWTOR video, I'm gonna watch that next.
Exar Kun deserves more vids.
yes
Hmm, a "Useless Info" vid about the Tales of the Jedi comics might come in handy... even if we know less about it than even the KotOR games. Not many of us read comics, you know, and even if we can, they're a bit rare.
@@michaelandreipalon359 SHUT UP JEDI
@@TruetoCaesar Neither a Jedi nor a Sith.
Should have been a prequel kotor game.
There is so much greatness with this video I don't even know where to start! xD
First of Chris Avellone is a boss! If he was not a SW fan before he started his homework, I bet he was after.
I laughed in the part where you mention Meetra's hair color. xD
These videos are very good! Keep them coming. ^^
It's BROWN KYFAS. BROWWWWWWWWWN.
The holy trinity of Star Wars is George Lucas, Dave Filoni and Chris Avellone
Dave Filoni hasn't put out anything good without George Lucas. And Chris Avellone only made one significant Star Wars work, and that work didn't really influence the Star Wars lore outside of TLJ and a couple of nods in TOR. I think people like Timothy Zahn and Drew Karpyshyn deserve those spots more, especially Timothy Zahn.
umm
@@comicsans1689well, Drew Karpyshyn ruined Revan And Meetra Surik stories, so the one who really matters is Anthony Zhan and even his work is get ruined by LucasFilms :'(
10:55 as a person who is in love with her voice I FUCKING AGREE
The most important fact in the video
My mate plays through KOTOR’s annually from start to finish. On Xbox, no mods, I think that’s a testament to how good the games are
My friend like I said in your last video, this is not useless information at all!!!! Your videos are always fascinating, intriguing and insightful because you continue to expand my limited knowledge of Star Wars. I know you enjoy Unreal Cinema's fan remake of KOTOR just like I enjoy KOTOR Movie Saga and Darthycey's work but again I'm still hoping Disney and Lucasfilms will make Knights of the Old Republic into an animated series someday.
Last week on July 27th at her movie premiere, Felicity Jones said "I never shut the door on Jyn Erso" it makes me so happy when she says that. Felicity talked about the possibility of returning to Star Wars so I'm still hopeful for that since Cassian Andor is getting his own show. Last thing my friend is I hope you don't mind me constantly bugging you to do a review at the end of season 1 for the Bad Batch series
My friend did you see today's episode of the Bad Batch? Kamino destroyed!!!! I couldn't believe it, it ends that era of Star Wars history. Please let me know what you thought it
I think there's actually another Jolee item that might or might not have belonged to Jolee himself, but Bindo's Band DOES power up grey Jedi.
No matter how mundane, no information about KOTOR 2 is useless. lol
True true
First video of yours I've ever seen and I have to say you did well with this video! Learned quite a few things I didn't know before hand.
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Correct me if I am wrong, the name "Darth Nihilus" appears in one of the journal logs, but was never explicitly spoken by any character in the game. In KOTOR II, he was simply referred to as "Visas' Master", "Master of the Ship (Ravager)", and so on. If true, this kind of highlights the fact that Darth Nihilus is merely a Dark Side reflection of Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile) and what she could have become had she turned to the Dark Side.
These videos have been amazing, keep up with the good work.
I'm glad youre enjoying them!
zez-kai ell always reminded me of if hulk hogan somehow became a jedi
Keep em comin!
Will do, good sir.
I highly recommend reading the Knights of the old republic comic series. It follows a jedi named Zach in the years leading up to the Jedi civil war. If you've played K.O.T.O.R. 1 &2 there are a lot of characters you'll recognize being placed into the world.
It's a fun comic!
*Zayne Carrick.
They even named the Republic Fleet space station in SWTOR after him. It's awesome.
His story would make a really good series but I doubt that they would make it well.
All they would have to do is follow the comics but they would hate that
I can’t help but grin when you talk about the cut content, since in just a week the game is coming to the Switch, and there will be DLC for the cut content
I need these to be longer
LONGER? :(
@@100StarWars 20 minutes of 'useful' information.
a few enemies like the two "bosses" on onderon level with you.
i found that out the hard way when i used an exploid with the dead jedi (3:13) to get my little jedi to max level (on xbox).
it took a while to defeat the general...
This is my favorite Star Wars game of all time.
Amen.
@@100StarWars and I always use the canonical head mod when I play the game on PC. Also if you want the link, these are where I get the mod from: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=486299564
same it's currently my favorite game ever
@@aamirrazak3467 I don’t get why some people hate it.
@@backtothefutureman1 me either if anything obsidian did a great job considering all the trouble lucasfilm put them through with production. i loved the first one, but after playing KOTOR 2 with restored content mod, it became my favorite
That kind of work is very appreciated
I really did like the last vid. Saw this and Insta clicked😂😂😂
I hope you enjoyed it, Steven!
@@100StarWars it was very good. I’m becoming a big fan of your content.
Yea please do another one of these on kotor and 2
I like both videos, and I think it’d be interesting to watch videos about useful things.
I'd love to see a video on Celeste Morne. Honestly, I love to see more Jedi/Sith character doco's in general.
I mean technically you can’t say that anything in Kotor is canon because it was decanonized by the Disney Corporation.
Also what made certain things like the exile being female or her hair being brown “canon” was Drew Karpyshyn’s “Revan” novel.
The Revan novel is pretty contentious among fans of Kotor 2 because it was written solely to fill some of the gap between Kotor 2 and Swtor, yet it was very clear that Karpyshyn knew very little about Kotor 2 and the novel suffers for it.
Technically you can but you cannot say it is Disney's canon
Canon just means that it is the original story or how the story is supposed to be, for example: canonically Revan is a man and marries Bastila
Sure you can choose a female player if you wish, but that's not the canon story (not Disney's canon, just the canon story)
@@Dave-mf6tj No… you can’t…
There is currently one canon in Star Wars and that is Disney’s Canon. Personally I hate that, but that doesn’t change it.
But let’s just say for the sake of discussion that you’re right and it is how “the original story is meant to be.” KOTOR is an RPG. Many of the things about the game such as character appearance/choices are up to the player. When KOTOR was released there was no official “How it’s meant to be.” That’s the whole point of an RPG. The “canon” that this guy is talking about comes from a book that was written 8 years after KOTOR was released.
@@pauljohnson2911 that's because you are not understanding the meaning of the word "canon"
There is a canon story, which you can read in the novel, or are you saying that the novel is also an RPG book? Because I have read the novel and Revan married Bastila and they have a son, Bastila felt a bit of jealousy because of Meetra and so forth, there is canon within legends
Another example of canon within legends is Zannah, she is a female sith trained by Bane, she is not Disney canon but he character being a woman is the correct canon story
@@pauljohnson2911 and about your point regarding the novel, a character or a story does not stop being canon because more lore was available years later
It's like saying that all the continuity errors found between the prequels and the OT make the prequels non-canon simply because some of those details didn't make sense or were changed decades lates to fill in gaps and plot holes
@@pauljohnson2911 and for the sake of argument let's say that Revan is not a man, or woman or anything, what about Bastila, is she not a woman? Well, she is, and that is the canon story in both the game and the book, yet your initial statement was that we can't say any of the things in KOTOR are canon, and my response to you was that canon can mean different things depending on the context
I know this is an old video but at 8:57 (9:04 on the video) the sith temple on Dxun and the ritual... is this... what is happening in the new game Star Wars Eclipse? I mean the little pool is there.... i might be speaking nonsense but... it would be fun it it was tbh. just a thought.
I loved that last bit about the exile, get em
Of course we adore it, its KOTOR BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG this was so great, I loved this so much. Please make more videos like this.
You're in luck as one just released ;)
@@100StarWars Just watched your newest video, another great one. I have been a fan of your channel for awhile and always enjoy your take on Star Wars. Keep up the good work!
KOTOR 2 with another year or two of development would have blown everything about KOTOR 1 out of the water. Its writing already does. We always hear from Sith about how Jedi are bad and from Jedi about how Sith are bad...but it wasn't until I played this game that I truly understood how messed up both groups are. KOTOR 2 seems a bit grimdark and it has real consequences shown from the first game. KOTOR 1 was an amazing game and I love it...but it wasn't that much different than a typical hero's journey space opera (minus the twist). I never felt dread or shame for what I did in the first game. In the second game, just helping some refugees on Nar Shaddaa causes more harm.
Useless fact: 1:50 Jolee's robe is the only thing restricted to neutrality in KOTOR 2.
Every other restriction forces you to take a for/against stance: items, force powers, the dark cave, alignment, influence, and whether to give money to the beggar or not. The game really really don't like Apathy, except if it's clouded in a cunning way (e.g. the neutral shrouded dark side of Kreia or if you pretend to be good only to abuse naive people such as Chodo Habat or Dantoine) to some other goal.
The Disciple’s name is mentioned in the female playthrough. When he contacts the republic/ Carth he ends it with ‘Mical out’.
Give this man a thumbs up he did his research
Kotor is love, Kotor is life.
Amen to that.
This game deserves a remaster with all the cut content added.
If only Disney would put the same dedication as Chris Avellone when he was writing SW KOTOR 2, maybe then we would not get those a disaster which is a Sequel Trilogy.
love these, please do more!
Will do!
When I first saw Nihilus' mask I thought it was very familiar. I swear I've seen it somewhere but I can't remember where.
Edit: Visas Marr is a Miraluka, Darth Marr is a human. How can they be related?
Related?
@@100StarWars The people that said Visas is Marr's great-great grandma.
I always thought Michael Duncan (The Green Mile) with green body paint like incredible Hulk would have been a GREAT Darth Sion
Chris Avellone in my opinion, to date, might be the only writer who sucessfully attempted to elevate Star Wars above the average space opera good vs. evil adventure scenarios ubiquitous in all other Star Wars media. It made attempts to explore the nature of The Force, to make it more than a plot device that allows the good guys to save the day. But, alas, like many other ambitious writers, his developments were cut short by corporate greed.
I hope I don't sound too pompous, but I feel like this is the only piece of star wars media that, in terms of story and world building, rises above the rest in the franchise and shows a more mature side while still maintaining a Teen ESRB rating. By "mature" I don't mean gratuitous swearing and sex scenes between siblings but things that went completely over my head when I played it as a teenager.
You're absolutely right.
@@100StarWars well, that's a little depressing.
and here i am wanting to play through kotor 2 again...it's been a month since i played it last
My head canon says Meetra is a ginger :D
GINGER? That's a new one xD
Headcanons are great
KOTOR 2 is my favorite, just in front of the first one.
same
Mine too!
10:29 you tell em luke!
IT'S BROWN JAMES.
how many times is enough times for the Echani poetry and the angelic pickup line?
Also, I don't remember the Handmaiden ever giving me a game-long silent treatment, did i play a bugged version of the game?
Knowledge is power.
Power is knowledge.
first person thing with kreia and visas is amazing
More please!
More you shall have!
The Darth Nihilus action figure has a removable hood and he has a ponytail sculpted in the back of his head.
9:17 He also the only Jedi master in the game who doesn't run around in his Jedi robes. Which also shows him distancing himself from the Order.
That's very true!
Also what is your point of view on the Legacy comics ?
Sadly I've not read them
@@100StarWars OK, I was introduced to Star wars Legends this way, I recomend it to you
Why was Bao-Dur not a romance-able character? He was a far hotter slab of manflesh than anyone else in the Exile's party.
*far hotter slab of manflesh* PLEASE LMAO
Because, no matter how you felt, he'd still only ever see you as "General".
I agree with you on Atris, basically because she scolds you regardless of what you say.
She's such an *******
@@100StarWars that's an understatement.
It would be Nice to have à battle front 1 or force unleashed version
The Exile is blonde in The Old Republic.
Her hair is white for ghostly effect
2:33 Take notes Rian Johnson AKA Judas Iscariot.
Another fact: Sion's appearance was inspired by Tessai from Ninja Scroll.
10:28 it is more lilely inconsistent, as I know it was only brown in the Revan novel, but this canonical playermodel from kotor 2 has blond hair, this is just modded to look like from the novel, and in swtor she has blonde hair aswell. So my theory is that she has brown hair, but she dyed it.
Her hair in SWTOR is white to represent her ghost form.
@@100StarWars That's interesting becouse I haven't seen anything like this before that they made the ghosts hair white just becouse it's a force ghost. And she didn't diead at an old age, so I doubt her hair was greying. But what other sorce states she had brown hair outside the Revan novel? And than which is the canonical playermodel from kotor 2? There isn't any white woman with brown hair and blue eyes, only green or brown eyes one. Only the blonde ones come with blue eyes. And this playermodel looks the most like her from swtor, has the same eyecolour.
Jc this amazing. Bring on the 🧂
Brunettes > blonde surik
But... Blonde Meetra :((
@@100StarWars Bald Meetra >>>
Can you do a video about each class storyline in SWTOR? Ooh, what about a video on SWG?
SWTOR from a gameplay perspective isn't really my cup of tea. Check out Swtorista, or Aviriia for that!
Darth Nihilus didn't become trapped in his armor upon being defeated by the exile. He had infused his essence into it and the mask long before then.
I had a glitch once where I could equip Kreia with a double bladed lightsaber even after her hand is taken
You should make a lore video on Mical (Aka the Disciple) pretty please 🥺 🙏
What about the Kreia/Arren Kae connection? Is that fake news like Meetra's blonde hair, or is that still confirmed cut content?
>share with your mom, your grandma, your dog
*TURRÓN!*
*TURRÓN!*
*TURRÓN!*
Did you share with your mom, grandma and dog though?
I have really enjoyed the content recently.
Any chance you will do character profiles for obscure sith?
Which Obscure Sith?
What would you say is the ideal order for planets to fly to after meeting Atris on Telos?
Nar Shaddaa, Dxun/Onderon, Dantooine and Korriban is the logical order to my knowledge!
Were the name anagrams coincidental or intended?
Probably intended.
Great vid
Thank you!
Just when I thought I watched every possible bit of Info on kotor then RUclips shows me this. Got to love algorithms 🤣
Now make me feel like I felt when I felt these 2 games for the first time....cmon, waiting!
Always wondered, what is the deal with that side mission with that dude that claims to rightfully own the Ebon Hawk? I wonder is it a scam? Does one threaten or kill the dude? How is that resolved fairly (light side)?
From what I recall, he later takes over your ship with a bunch of trandoshans, then he gets betrayed by said trandoshans, I think. Never trust a trandoshan.
@@Jorvaskrr Trandoshans, like those on that Yavin 4 station in KOTOR? Tough bunch. Thanks for the info!
@@IIIuidn7 Trandoshans like Bossk.
It is almost certainly his ship, based on his responses telling you a load of info about the ship only someone with genuine experience with it would understand. In cut content, he will enter the ebon hawk at the same moment the Red Eclipse slavers (the Trandos and other aliens you fight on it) come aboard. They will ask him if he is the rightful owner of the ship. He confirms it, then is knocked out by one of the mooks and is detained. When you confront the Red Eclipse leader in the Ebon Hawk, If you kill the leader, the 'rightful owner' of the Ebon Hawk will tell you that there was a misunderstanding and that you can have his ship back and he leaves. If you let the Red Eclipse leader live so that they will serve and pay you, the exile offers the 'rightful owner' as a slave to the Red Eclipse for their spice mines.
Pretty sure it's the dude from the first KOTOR that you free on the Leviathan, no? And the comments already explained what should've happened (which gets restored in TSLCRM
Keep it up get them likes and views
is SWTOR next?
Maybe ;)
More, MORE, MORE!
Okay, OKAY, OKAY!