My wife was also unfaithful and as soon as I confirmed it, I moved out and filed for divorce. There is no way I could continue to be married to her. I don't see how anyone could. She later went through two husbands, one of them throwing her and all her things out in the street. Once a cheater always a cheater. I have since married a wonderful woman who has been with me for over 25 years. I hope to be with her for another 25 or more.
@@nyashajaravani3622 He's probably nearing 50, if not over it already. Average life expectancy for a man in the US is about 75 years so, he's basically saying for the rest of his life.
An affair is not a single mistake. It is a series of decisions tens, hundreds, and possibly even thousands of decisions, all aimed at one thing for you to cheat on someone that you swore to love.
100%. Correct. Cheating is a calculated and willful decision to disrespect the person you claim to love. Never a mistake....never the fault of alcohol.....never coerced. Personally I could never give a cheater a second chance Once and OUT
Seems like a distinctive pattern. I caught my xw 35 yr old cheating with a 27 yr old punk, too. I divorced her, and punk dumped her in 6 months. Now she's someone else's problem. I'm living my best life now.
@@SuperAxon2I agree with you wholeheartedly and they are like cars or any other form of recreation when you're done using them you put them away until you find another one or you get bored and you want to take it for a ride again but it's always better to rent because then you have no headaches and the expenses are lower or non-existent!!
Mine was cheating on me and then filed for divorce. But shortly afterwards, she must have had a moment of truth with the dude she was cheating with because she fought like hell to get me back. NOPE!
Jim is being very smart. 30 months and 1 day and then he gets everything. Jim's playing the long game. Real men are built to do the hard things up front so that things are easy on the back side.
Jim is an idiot. 1. That postnup would never have survived court. You can't includes custody or child support in a prenup. Don't so probably invalidated all of it. 2. It was trivial for her to simply do something which would cause him not to get through the 2.5 years anyway. Which she did by moving out. She could have blown money, gotten drunk, gotten the children involved, bad mouthed him, etc., etc. and he'd have to kick her out anyway. 3. Even if he waited six month months and divorce, she could easily have used custody of the kids against him. She could get custody and threaten to move to Alaska unless he gives her the house. Notice that he already said she could take everything if she left the boys. 4. It was a waste of two years of his life -- now in misery along with putting his kids through that. 5. By 'reconciling', he gave up any rights to divorce over the affair. 6. In the end he got 25% of the assets (which she didn't have to get), didn't avoid lawyers, less half of two years income, etc. Nothing was said of custody (prenups can promise custody). So, if he had $400k in the house he got $100k. Except he put two years of his salary into the marriage, so we'd up what... $40k maybe? That's $20k/year for with a witch, no sex, being miserable, seeing your kids go through that, etc.
She's just a woman--- this is how they are "wired" Everything is about the feels, the surge of emotions. This is what Chad and Tyrone offer, why 99.99% of woman seek out that one per cent of men that fall into that category. They never really want me or you--- there's no passion or moist kitty with the nice guy, only bad boy Chad. But at least we know all this now, we have an endless amount of proof of females true feelings towards men. So, what are the 99% of men, the ones they don't really want, or desire, wasting our time and resources on these ungrateful, selfish, reptilian parasites for? Just walk away, leave them to Chad, live your life for you, guys, enjoy your pursuits and hobbies free from their shaming tactics and manipulations. Free from the self created drama and stress they bring you, free from the burden of financing their endless need for "stuff". Freedom beckons--- Embrace it!
"Only 4 times"...listen cheater, ONE time is once too many, to say nothing of the emotional affair. Edit: FYA, this isn't a first choice issue, as there was no other man in the picture she was pining for, present or past. This is a 304 behavior tendency issue. This woman has no discipline when it comes to her "animal" side - something men go to jail for if we act on it, but society makes excuses for the woman when she does it.
They say stuff like that as if people are too stupid to think about what that actually meant. So... you have s3x only four times over a five month period, not sure if when Steve's MIL caught them counted as #4 or #5. That means... you had weeks or month between session and kept doing it. You could see your husband, children, his children, his wife, etc. dozens of times between each encounter, but still went back to do it again. It also means you planned each encounter with cold efficiency and in the full knowledge of what would happen. It this any better than going at it every week?
@@BW022 I mean what it tells me is that they were trying to be careful about hiding it. It was calculated. I also wonder, how long would it have gone on, and how far would she let it go if she wasn’t caught? Years? Maybe she would get pregnant and pretend it’s her husbands? What was her long term plan? Did she even have one? If they hadn’t gotten caught, that family would STILL be living there. That temptation would STILL be there. That man would ALWAYS be screwing her behind her husbands back. Maybe not often, but every few weeks, months, or years, they would fall in the sack together.
@@estebanslavidastic4382 Again, it doesn't matter how you interpret it or what the truth was... it doesn't make it better. Let's say they weren't being careful about it? So? That just means she's stupid, can't control herself, and there is no reason OP should ever trust her. She was blackmailed into going again... still can't trust her. Alien mind rays from Mars... still can't trust her. See... there is no good answer.
Imagine looking at your wife every day for two years and knowing that the last time she made love it was with someone else. I wouldn’t want to touch her either. And his friends come by for an evening of cigars and bourbon, and they see his wife and know she puts out for other men. Those must have been good times, too. Jim deserves better.
Lol, jims bourbon and cigar buddies, " hey jim,,,,,,,rob,steve and i were thinking, since you want no part of that, would you mind if we got er to throw back a few and run a train on it" ?????
Most men don't cheat because they needed a lot of luck to get a woman in the first place. Via porn they have been unfaithful in their head thousands of times.
@@glenpersinger3390no it did not this woman and Azp planned it all out god lord it was no accident they knew what they were found what they didn’t realize was getting caught they acted lol ke baby’s no security on making sure no one could just walk in on them pure stupied😭😭😭💩😭😭😮😮
When the garden tool says "We were having NO problems and I was happy" what they are saying is that the husband is worth less than nothing. She despises him so much that she didn't need a reason to betray him.
Maybe….I think she was just plain old bored….a suburban house wife with kids…I would guess that it would be nearly impossible to feel excited about life, if she’s following a bunch of IG accounts of women jet setting all over the world, having adventures, hook ups with top tier men ect life would definitely feel bland. Comparison is the thief of joy.
i never thought of that. but it makes sense.Truly pathetic.someone should make a meme out this. I thought my relationship with the Bear was perfect.We were comunicating. I don't know what went wrong? We were BBQ'in steaks. I was playing with her kids. I thought everything was great? We were all freinds. What went wrong? This is not right.! We need more education, and make the bears more aware of this issue. . Do we have anyone who cares??? Am i the only one who cares about anything?, and wants to save the Earth? I'm getting a Wee bit trigered.
Hi, I agree with your statement. One thing the SHAM needs to realize is if you had to go to work every day and sometimes have to work six days a week they would appreciate the position that their live is at this time in life..@@carbonie_fibraro
No way you love your husband or children it’s not possible to cheat for 5 months and love them. Also you are right no way you only did it 4 times in 5 months.
she said his D was trash too... but yet she kept going back! Women dont go back if the d was trash, they go back if it was good! I bet he was blowing them cheeks out too! lol
I have made the mistake of having an affair with married women & trust me when a married woman cheats the sex is insanely hot & they want that sex as much as possible. In this case with Steve living across the street they were doing the dirty at least 4 times/week
“I’ll spend the rest of my life making it up to you”. How wonderful, your affection will no be coming from love; instead it’s coming from guilt. Nothing better than guilty affection…
You ever watch tennis? Whenever counting the scores instead of saying zero they say love-then whatever point the other has. This is why to me hearing the word I love you means nothing. Words are cheap, always look for the actions that are supposedly tied to that word instead.@@hdw237
I understand why some may criticize Jim's decision to stay with her, but thinking logically, to sacrifice 30 months but then have a clean divorce without losing your assets sounds like a really good deal. And he made his intention clear when he added the not sleeping together clause.
That is 2.5 years. More over, it's still stupid as any lawyer would tell him... 1. Postnups often don't stand up in court. 2. Postnups can't cover custody or child support. Those are rights of the child. Even putting them in a post-nup probably invalidates it. 3. It would be trivial for the wife to do something to cause him to have to break the 30 month requirement. 4. She can always use custody of the kids to 'renegotiate'. Once she has primary custody she can move them to Alaska... or else I want the house. 5. Contacts only work if both sides are working towards the same goal. The fact she is willing to blackmail you -- you must say with me for 30 months or else -- makes it clear she isn't to be trusted. 6. Putting your children through 2.5 years of lies, waiting to backstab you, etc. 7. Agreeing to not divorce immediately may actually prevent you from filing on the grounds of adultery. Sorry, this is just a bad deal. If she actually loved you, she would have just given you that deal to start with.
She offered the greatest gift possible. He at first told her he would give away everything to get rid of her. She countered with an offer that if he can simply navigate 30 months of ignoring her and then divorce, he gets the best of everything. Well played sir, well played. Stick to the grind, the end is within sight.
A fool's errand....he'll spend 30 torturous months with the b**ch and she'll fight the post-nuptial agreement in divorce court and take half anyway because courts side with whores 97% of the time. He's an idiot. And soon enough, he'll be a sucker too.
He did if to get his kids through high school. Once theyre in college hes gonna go scorched earth. The discipline this man has tells me everything about him.
How was this well played? She ended up moving out and he asked to divorce within the 30 months anyway? The postnup didn't apply and she gave him the 3/4s of assets. He (and the boys) went through two years of this. Is 1/4 of his assets (less two years of putting more money into the marriage) worth it? Or he could have divorced. Gotten two years of his life back, not put his sons through this, and either asked nice for the kids and house or played hardball. Was 25% worth it? He's still young enough most of his lifetime income is coming up. That would have been two years to heal, find someone else, etc.
My guess is no female neighbour would let this woman anywhere near their husbands. So she's rejected and isolated from the normal social interactions of acquaintances, friends and family and often that's what makes life worthwhile.
@@eleethtahgra7182 not sure who you are reaponding to but the wh got divorced and moved she stayed in the neighborhood where everyone knew what she had done
If this known duplicitous deceiving immoral liar can be trusted to keep her word. 😅😅😅 she didn't keep her wedding vows so why all of a sudden should he trust this skank's words?
Unfortunately, this woman can’t be trusted. She goes with her feelings, to hell with the consequences. this will happen again and again with her next partner.
but then he can just kick her out as his ex FWB...if Jim is smart he will leave her in that category...no emotional attachement, just FWBs, and if he find she was with someone else too (while FWB) end it permanently. Its a win/win for him, and if he is able to have his feelings in check even better
Clearly not true. Steve was led by his lust, right? There are trustworthy men and women just like there are skanky men and women. If you believe that all men are above reproach then you're just setting yourself up to be blindsided by an amoral Steve type of guy. @RobKoch1962
I have always said that. I think that public lashing naked would put a damper on that. It will not fully stop because some people only care about themselves.
@@coureenlawrence4915 Doesnt matter. As long as theres a way to "hit back" at the cheater and the AP, then its already okay. Murderers are put in jail...or death penalty. That doesnt stop murderer from murdering. But it would bring closure to the victim's family. Same with infidelity.
You are so right we need laws on these cheaters! It will protect the loyal person if you want to keep laying down with strangers !” Stay single and do all you want🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
This woman is a piece of work. I don't blame her husband kicking her to the curb like the 304 she is. I don't blame him for not wanting to touch her at all. She threw her life away for sex according to her wasn't worth much. Her saying that she was so innocent in high school I don't believe that bullshit. It seems to me when she met her future husband she met her "nice guy" so she felt safe and never thought he would leave her. She chose to be a stay-at-home mom. She wanted validation according to her from some other man. The only validation she needed was from her husband. She did this because she wanted to. Oh I'll just have my little fling and just be with my husband. If you believe that I have prime real estate in the Everglades for sale. I bet this wasn't the first time she ever cheated.
What is absolutely astonishing to me is just how many women have this exact same mindset. They have it all, but feel the need to PlSS it away for a little validation and the chance to "feel butterflies" once again. These are truly fickle and craven creatures, these modern "empowered" women.
I don't believe she didn't have sex since earlier and I don't believe Steve was the first Ap she had, that's the one she got caught with and write about. People don't want to be seeing as villain so they tried to minimize their actions or omitting as much as they can.
Why shouldn't she get a little validation 🙄 here and there? She would have stopped in due time anyway. Mother in laws always but in where their not wanted..
@@glenpersinger3390 You sound like a wimp and a simp. I am sure if you are in a relationship you have been cheated on numerous times. If you need validation from outside your relationship why be in one anyway. That is why couples need to communicate their feelings good or bad.
She's not only a piece of work, her story is practically a tell-all of typical female behavior: keeping orbiters around for months but easily giving it up to a guy she had no future with but felt the tingles for, cheating despite "having the perfect marriage," willing to "be the perfect wife" only _after_ she got caught cheating, willing to sexually share the man she wants, and thinking she has the right to expect Jim to take her back. The cherry on top? _All the women telling her to "hang in there" because he'll come around eventually._
That mother-in-law is badass. Shes knew right away how much these two were hurting her daughter, even if Marsha wasnt aware of it yet. A strong protective instinct is definitely something to respect.
The key loss here is trust. People get so lost in "forgiveness" they lose sight of this. This husband has lost the ability to trust his wife as well as losing a lot of respect in the neighborhood. Here is another thing to think about. I know some people refuse to accept this but people that cheat have something inside them that is broken. The act of cheating is the last link in a chain of events. Normal trustworthy people know how to break that chain. When this wife went to that dealership she knew full dang well she was going to have a meeting alone with Steve. This is where normal people break that chain. Jim also will never be able to forget what she did. Oh, he may try to, but those demons will come back and keep coming. This is why most reconciliations implode after about 3 years, OR the couple just becomes roommates with all passion gone. I know several men that are living this way. You can see the pain in their eyes. Now, I know men cheat too, but this OP is a female. This is why I am saying that a high amount of females don't understand just how cheating messes with a man's mind. If they loved these men as they claimed most all cheating would stop!
"Jim also will never be able to forget what she did. Oh, he may try to, but those demons will come back and keep coming." This. My first girlfriend cheated on me. Not only was the most painful thing internally that I had to do was walk away from that relationship [even told the other man he could have her for all I cared - problem was, I _did_ care, I just did what was necessary]. But even walking away, I remember that day like it was this morning. I cannot trust fully ever since then. I'm 25 years married now, 30 total together with my wife. She has never done anything to break my trust, and if anything has always gone out of her way to spend time with me whenever she can, even now - which I understand is highly unusual, as most marriages go kind of dead at about 7-10 years where the couple just tolerates each other. I do my best to not take out on her what that one girl did to me, but those demons do resurface from time to time and test my mettle. While I always heed any warnings my instincts bring up, I always take the time to verify before making any decisions about anything - and that has, so far, turned out to be a sound approach. If this is how I am with a completely different woman, imagine if I tried to stay and reconcile with the one who actually cheated on me... Ironically, I had decided after breaking up with the cheater that I would not stay where I was not wanted. Ever. This has really served me well over the years. With any person or group, whether it be a woman, a friend, a social group, an employer - didn't matter, you demonstrate by your actions that you don't want me, I'll pack up and go elsewhere. I don't typically act on one-offs unless it's particularly egregious. I look at treatment patterns over time and, as necessary, distance myself accordingly. Example: At one job as Technical Services Manager, I let go 4 different customers over 3 years there who were constantly pulling shenanigans - one in particular kept short paying the invoices, giving themselves the "prepay discount" without pre-paying, so after our accountant was exasperated for the umpteenth time at not being able to collect the difference, I took the phone out of her hands and spoke with the contact** - same contact who had called earlier for service - and told him since he's obviously unhappy with our service due to his refusal to fully pay for services rendered, he can go find another company to service his network. My trip to his distant neck of the woods is hereby canceled. [Um...ok?...he said, nervously.] Have a nice day. And hung up. The accountant, a woman who had been pulling her hair out moments ago trying to collect from this bastard, just looked at me wide-eyed and said "wow." I just smiled and asked, "feel better?" "Oh yeah!" Funny side effect: production in the company would start gaining for 4-6 weeks in a row each time I "fired" a customer like that, for the simple reason that I remove the chaos such toxic customers bring, allowing us to focus on those who appreciated the work we do and don't give us nonsense in return. The first two times I did that, I got an earful from the owner - after that, he just accepted it as part of doing business. Amazing how much latitude you get when you're able to improve the bottom line... Go where people want you, want/need your services, and respect you. Whatever demons or struggles you are dealing with otherwise, put yourself in an environment most conducive to how you want to live your life. This exertion of control over your own environment is itself quite therapeutic and creates sanity. This applies _especially_ to any lifelong partner you might enter into a committed relationship with, if you're going for one. Find one who loves, values and respects YOU, and shows it. **I had had one conversation about the invoices with him at a previous visit, just to see if he had a problem with our work, if we needed to improve in any area - nope, he was happy with what we did for him. Well, clearly not, since you didn't want to pay the bill in full...
Way to live your life. Add MGTOW Monk! The best wife will always be on the hair line of destroying her family & the best husband, it’s their nature. And, they are never at fault!!! They are the most shellfish creatures I have in my 78 years known. Want peace, find God, want love, get a dog & get a truck. Do something Great with your life. True happiness!!! Don’t look, don’t touch, don’t talk to them & don’t look back. Be what God created you to be.
Today I am 65. Years ago when I graduated from HS I was dating a girl a grade ahead of me. After I graduated from HS I joined the USAF and 4 years later got out. I used my GI Bill and started school at Georgia Tech. After I got out I resumed my relationship with Terri. Terri was unhappy I was in school. As I look back to that time I can see it. To make a long story short her brother Don came on the campus and told me Terri had slipped off with a group of people and cheated on me up in a hotel in Tenn. He asked me to leave Terri alone. I was devastated. I also almost flunked out of school. I was also working 2 jobs to help pay for my room and board as well as some of the things the GI Bill would not pay for. It was tough and I was only eating 1 meal a day. Sometimes I would walk the streets of Atlanta crying. Unless you have experienced this kind of betrayal you don't know how it feels. Terri also was impregnated during that trip. That news took my spirit away. I came close to quitting school and at that point in my life really did not want to exist any longer. I also had my family ignore me. I was losing weight because I was not eating. I asked for some money and was told no. I had a chance meeting with one of the School Deans and he got me some help and slowly I rebounded. I graduated from Georgia Tech and today have degrees in Mechanical and Electrical Engineering. I am also a self-taught Systems Engineer and an INCOSE ESEP. I own and operate my own Consulting company. Back to my story. I was sitting on a bench near my room listening to someone playing "The Wall" by Pink Floyd. When that part called "Another Brick in the Wall Part 3" came on. I can quote those lyrics from memory. That was the day I knew I would never be a husband. That was the day I put myself first. In the years since I have had the same family that refused to help me with food ask me for money. I told them NO! Terri tried for years to get me to talk to her. We did talk last year. Terri had breast cancer and as a favor to her brother, I spoke to her. Terri passed away last year. I did not attend her funeral. My main issue is Terri took my ability to trust away. In the years since I have been in relationships, but I will NEVER allow a female to hurt me again.
@Michael Myers Don is a solid stand up guy,there need to be more guys out there like him who will hold their own kin accountable. Most would be like "that's not my business ". Accountability is everyone's business and Don see that and enforced it with his own sister.
Those demons end up killing you or turning you into something you hate but you can't forget, and the images that pop in your head only get more vivid and gut wrenching to the point of depression, and its a lot worse when the ap is your best friend and that situation brings on the mentality of "everyone is against me, nobody is trustworthy" and its pain
Whilst I understand her anger, and I think that Steve and Amy are scumbags, too many women are too comfortable with laying their hands on men. Steve would've been well within his rights to lay his mother-in-law out flat. I would've.
Don't get married, fellas. Don't get married. Don't even date. Save yourselves the headaches, drama, bullsh**, and a financial drain... Don't get married.
@@elessartelcontar9415 It humiliates her. I would go with her to the STD clinic and ask questions like: "Will this test catch any STDS she could get from anal? What if there were multiple men she was with, would this test catch STDs from both of them?"
...As a Recovering Simp, I was enlighten by the possibility of a woman cheating after an extended period of time. The situation has not occurred to me that a woman carnal desire can manifest itself after a long period of time. Fortunately for me, my heart has enough scars that I can turn off a relationship with just a flip of the metaphorical switch. Just goes to show that learning new things doesn't have a time or age limit...
Charles turned her into an alpha widow. She never got over him. Steve brought all those old feelings back. If Jim takes her back, he’ll never get the trust back. Its over!
I would typically agree that Jim should divorce his cheating wife but man that contract is not something to not consider..think about it guys, in many of these types of stories, the cheating wife isn't offering a deal of this magnitude. I mean clearly Jim has no intention of getting back with her and his sole focus is getting through the 30 months at which point he can drop her like a bad habit and walk away without being financially destroyed so this is one of the very rare times I can understand why he would stay.
An unenforceable contract that will simply get thrown out in Family Court ... but only after it is used to show how badly the husband treated the wife ... isn't something that is smart to consider.
@mlmii1934 Nah, doesn't matter who requested it, or even if 10 lawyers wrote it up. If a legal pre-nup, pre-approved by both parties and their lawyers, can be thrown out with impunity by a judge, no post-nup is safe from the same treatment. It WILL get thrown out, I guarantee it, especially since she moved out and (I believe) caused a violation of it on his side of the agreement. The courts are INSANELY biased against men. This wouldn't stand in a court of law.
Never take the bait of a "one sided" open relationship... It will be offered as a compensation, but in reality it drags the "victim" down to the level of the "offender"... It will never be presented in that aspect.. but trust me when the "victim" takes the bait it gives the offender the chance to say " you are no better than me" as a point in an argument
What everyone is missing is that she didn’t stop the affair on her own. She got caught. So what she has is worldly sorrow. Had she not been caught it would probably still be going on. So how could he trust her again
Yup, and even in her last message she confirms it. The risk was not worth the thrill. And after she was found out she never even stopped once to think about how her husband felt, all she was worried was about losing him and the life he gave her. She doesn't regret what she did, only that she got caught.
She'll definitely lying about the number of times. She said there was no emotional connection only physical but somehow she sleeps with him almost instantly but only 3 more times over 5 months. I dont beleive that for a second
Her intro about Charles explains perfectly why smart men DO NOT take it as a compliment when a woman says they'd make a great husband. Men know what they mean by that backhanded bs. Men probaly shouldn’t get married at all, the way the laws are currently practiced, but def don't marry the woman that doesn't desire you the way this chick did Charles. You'll pay for it in more ways than one, otherwise.
Try this experiment: go ask, one by one, about a dozen or so women, "In a word or phrase, what attributes/behaviors/characteristics/qualities make for a good husband?" Write their answers down in Column 'A'. Next, you can come back to the same women after a few days, or find a dozen different women, and ask them, "In a word or phrase, what attributes/behaviors/characteristics/qualities make a man sexy?" Write their answers down in Column 'B'. Compare the two columns, You will find ZERO phrases in both columns. NONE. NO OVERLAP. Conclusion: Husbands. Are. Not. Sexy.
Yep, she had the "bad boy fling" when she was 18 and craved it again. It was not surprising that she went for that again, regardless of the potential ramifications that might happen with her family, marriage, or anything else. She was thinking with the organ between her legs and nothing else mattered. She got wet and horny and had zero control of her urges. That's the secret most women can't accept, that they will give up ANYTHING if a guy gets them wet and horny or gives them a strong O. It's the hormones, and any logical reactions will be suppressed over the emotional and physical reactions those women have to these guys. And the women typically say "I don't know how that happened", it's called thinking with your vagina, and women are worse than men when it really hits them, zero control of thinking of the future. It's the reason women lust after some guys and marry others. What do all these stories have in common? "I loved my husband and was completely fulfilled by him emotional and physically." No you weren't, because if you truly were, no amount of temptation would sway you and you wouldn't even put yourself in these situations. It's all just excuses for poor impulse control. It's truly sad that many of the women in these stories talk about the "attention I wasn't getting" yet what had they done to get that attention? Had they talked to their spouse about it? Tried to stiry things up in their apparently stale marriage, etc? Or did they sit back, do nothing, and then make excuses that the excitement and things had faded? Did they go to the gym, take care of themselves and look good physically? That's one positive way to get your husband to always give you attention. If you're not doing any of those things it's not surprising that there was no spark or attention being given. Long term relationships take WORK to keep strong and vital and engaged.
My father told me years ago to practice the three f's when dealing with women. Find them, f*ck them, and forget them. I did not follow that advice and I have very much regretted it.
17:06 "He said he'd give me everything he owns if I'd just disappear and leave him and the boys alone." That sentence is pretty heartbreaking. He's so hurt by her fuck up that he'd do anything to get away from her. And im willing to bet she ignores that and keeps trying to reconcile.
yup, oh you bet she does, I just think unless a female has played sports in high school and college, the majority of females have no idea of what a team player really is. they are selfish by nature. its what they are. their daddy's if he was a responsible man who was aware of the shit girls pull and nipped it in the bud would have excised those bad traits out of her. but if she cried to get what she wanted and has been learning how to be an expert liar. the possibility of her understanding that she was the villain in this story is pretty remote. her continuing to knock on the door and try different ways to get back in your good graces should frighten them to their core. Because it clearly shows how little words have meaning to her.
Hearing all these stories I've come to the conclusion that marriage is a comfort net for women. It gives too much security, too much comfort so they act out. Apparently, they shouldn't get security.
it is because traditionally the women took care of the house and children as an unpaid and unrecognized but extremely essential job, meanwhile the man was the one who worked to bring the money. In that arrangement, ofc you need to protect the wife.
An affair is probably the single most disrespectful thing a woman can do to a man and loss of trust is irreparable. Women don't understand how much effort a man has to put in just to get a date let alone anything else. Women also need to know that men never trust or forgive male friends that betray them either.
Agreed; trust is the bedrock of everything. When trust is destroyed, it is as final and absolute as a death; the woman the man loved does not exist anymore...
Foolish woman always speak those words. Moving a mountain is almost impossible yet keeping her dirty panties on is much easier in comparison. Somehow we are to believe she will do the near impossible when the easy she failed
It doesn't matter how many times it happened, once is too much. Allowing a man to go sleep with other women doesn't really show you love him, not in my eyes.
It sounds like something a cheater would want. So in trying to get him back, she shows him what she would want in the opposite situation. Being able to eff other women isn't what a good man wants.
Well I think he's playing the smart game and not having sex with her for 30 months and then kind of force her to get a divorce... he only agreed to it so that you didn't get screwed over in the courts before the prenup, so in reality hes playing smart long game.. cuz I would do the same thing cuz f having to give your spouse half of what you earned when they're a cheater
She doesn’t get it. She cheated on him multiple times during a months long affair and it only stopped because she got caught in the act. She lied to his face every day for five months without qualm and would have continued to do so indefinitely. He has to realize their relationship was never real, he was the safe bet, the backup guy, the guy to pay bills and play the role. There is no way he could continue with her because he would definitely be setting himself up for round two is another smoldering stranger crossed her path. Hopefully he can just coparent with this creature and find companionship somewhere else.
This dude is a genius... He’s basically waiting the 30 months to get a fairer deal in his divorce instead of doing it right now. This lady is just too blind to see.
After a cheating wife is discovered, it's extremely disgusting to even look at her. It's equivalent to entering your car after it's been ransacked by thieves. I usually put the car on Auto Trader shortly afterwards, wish there was a Wifey Trader.
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Why does she get to have the hot husband?! Jimbo played the long game and downgraded his wife to a possible FWB while sparing his assets. That Jim is one sharp beta provider.
I’m sorry, but only 4 times in 5 months and the last is where they get caught. She can’t even be honest in her anonymous confession. If they were comfortable enough to do it in his bed, they had done it more than 4 times. Hope her Ex finds someone better.
Bingo! That is why God says no sex before marriage. I find today's culture very weird. People are sleeping around freely, and then getting married. Why? Why get married? What is the benefit in marrying a whore? Or marrying a Whoremonger? The result is us listening to stories on RUclips, and commenting as if we are saints, because we were not caught, and have not been caught yet. I am glad that I am saved, that I truly believe God, when he says no sex before marriage, I practice that (not easy) and will teach that to my children. Jesus is Lord.
Basically you liked the bad boys you talk about Charlie but I’d bet there were many others. You settled for safe Jim first attracted his wage packet and bank account. Then after ensuring you would get the max out of his money in a divorce you parent trapped him with 2 kids (he needs to DNA check them, (They probably are not his) you got it in with bad boy Jim.
I'm sure that if some Charles or Steve offered to fulfill op's desires in exchange for Jim and his kids life without losing her lifestyle, she would do it without a first thought.
When someone had a one time encounter, stopped and admitted to it, they can ague it was a mistake. When they been at it for several months, it’s can never be described as a mistake, not even in the most delusional mind.
mistake is put salt instead of sugar into coffee, or buy six eggs instead of ten...cheating is NEVER mistake...if its one night stand and you cheat, you need focus on AP, think what you will do, move to his/her place, put down clothes and start act itself, while you can stop it anytime, but decide to continue, all of this things are planned before...so as i said, cheating is NEVER mistake, its series of decisions made with choice to do it at the end, not a mistake
That is still bullshxt, how does 1 time encounter could be considered a mistake? Oops sorry I fell on the guys dick and riding it... It's like I just happen to be at the bank and I thought ..what the hell, why don't I just rob it. It's only 1 time it's a mistake. How do you mistakenly fxxk someone? Give me a break.. ...m
A woman cheats for 3 reasons: 1) She sees her husband getting better-looking as he ages, while she's getting uglier. She needs to relive her youth by having an affair with a younger man. 2) She wants to get "kinky", but can't emotionally detach enough to feel comfortable doing these acts with her husband, so she has an affair. 3) She's bored, and wants to to something forbidden to "spice up" her life. She cheats for the excitement of cheating, and would never want her husband to do this to her. Amy cheated for reasons 1 and 3. Amy was sure she'd get away with this. She did this as a jealous way of "stabbing Jim in the back" for being a high-value man, all the while enjoying her SAHM life. Admittedly, she claimed that Jim was a better lover than Steve, but the s-time with Steve was good because of the sheer excitement of doing something behind Jim's back. She's incredibly immature and insecure. She's obviously attracted to whatever look Charles and Steve both have, but her husband goes to the gym, so he's probably in good physical shape. Jim being in good shape probably also fueled her desire to "stab him in the back". Truth be told; though, she never intended to get caught, and was planning on continuing this whole "game" with Steve. Jim's stipulations were spot-on, and I wouldn't doubt if he started seeing another gal. Amy might not be aware of it. Gals like Amy get desperate when they see there man is going to leave them. We've seen this in other stories. They're willing to do just about anything to keep their man from leaving or regaining his love and trust. Good for Jim for finally kicking her to the curb. I'm sure he'll find a younger, prettier gal to "move on" with, and when he does, Amy will feel even more ashamed of herself. Another woman got HER man...
I've heard more than one woman explain their cheating with your #2. Also have heard from cheating wives that would not tolerate their husband's cheating. Since Amy is a liar, there is no reason to believe her claim that Jim was a better lover than Steve, that claim may simply be damage control.
@@hermesten1000, it could be damage control, but cheaters have also admitted that the s-x with their partner is good, but they just want more of a good thing. In many cases, the thrill of doing something to their partner that they would NEVER want their partner to do to them is what makes the encounter exciting. The actual physical satisfaction isn't that great. I recently watched a short video from a podcast called "Whatever". These gals admitted to hooking up for ATTENTION and validation, yet didn't reach the big "O". It was more about having guys desire them than actually pleasing them physically.
I gotta ask 😂. Guys, why are you so interested and dead set on marriage? Multiple Choice: •A) Is it because you're afraid of loneliness? •B) Is it because you want to create a legacy of your own? •C) is it because you want what you believe to be easy and readily sexual access? •D) Or is it all the above? I would like to know this because there's a solution to each of these without marriage in the courts of Modern Western Society. Furthermore, let's face it, it's literally impossible for you to find that special lady who isn't either imprinted on or ran through.
As a guy who isn't married or had a relationship I guess it's A n B n frankly C only happpen from what I heard if she allows or even after marriage there is a term called marital grape.. I mean you got a court certificate to do the seed yet she has to agree or else you are screwed... I mean obviously both side has to agree but usually women don't cos they don't a thing called aa testosterone in them like we men...
This is a problem as old as time. In fact, it is even part of a vv0man's monthly estrous cycle. When ovulating they crave Chad, when not, they crave Beta Bob, the nice guy who provides stability. You better hope that your wife will have some self-control when she is ovulating and bumps into Chad. The woman in this story didn't. Marriage is a roll of the dice at best.
Her post-nuptual sounds like "you get everything you want if you have me hang around for two and a half years". And honestly? If that is what it takes to get her to back off permanently? Thats still a golden deal because nothing says that he personally has to let her back in. And the kids get to have both parents around. Just "stick it out, be respectful and you get all your demands and some extra concessions"? I'd be down for that and Jim is a king for handling it the way he did.
When describing the characters of this story, the first one who came to mind was the lover (Steve)... no wonder who was the most important man for this woman.
What I have noticed looking at the comments section, no woman is present. Why are they all suddenly quite when it comes to this? Does that mean that they are decievers as well, lost for words? Telling...
Man, this guy really lucked out when she gave him this post-nup. He's essentially treating it like a divorce except they are housemates plus the kids get to stay in the family home with both parents and Jim now only has to wait till they come of age to activate the post-nup divorce and loose nothing financially.
only one problem in many states that paper is worth absolutely nothing in court as they can argue it was done under duress. Even pre-nups get thrown out a crazy amount of times for the same reason.
"There was no love between me and cheating partner. it meant nothing" I see cheater women say this thing all the time. Everyone jokes about men not understanding women, but women do not understand men either. 1. To a man such a betrayal from his wife is inexcusable. 2. it being meaningless makes it worse. As the anguish she causes him and the ruined marriage and harm to children is so trivial that she did it for no reason at all but a passing whim
I didn't think for a second Jim took her post nup agreement for the money. He was willing to give her _everything_ if she would get out (of their lives) and leave him and the kids alone. Obviously, he weighed the options carefully. He could lose his kids and his house in a divorce, or he could let her continue being a SAHM for his kids sake. I think he selflessly went through that awkward period for his kids.
I have been in court of equity (family court) and they. are not bound by contract law if the judge does not think it fair. Waamen are above men and children in that case. Do not count on pre/post nuotial agreement’s.
Do not Marry. Do not Cohabitate. Do not Impregnate. Jim is playing a silly game of revenge which could possibly blow up in his face. What he is doing could easily be construed as mental abuse by a clever attorney. Either divorce her or stop pouting like a kid and bite the bullet and go back for round two. He needs to make up his mind! What he should have done, when she was in her conciliatory mind set was to agree to no spousal support and he keeps the house and joint custody of the boys and divorce her. That was his revenge, not hanging around living with this woman He needs to get over himself, come to grips with the reality that just because you care for someone it doesn't necessarily follow that they will care for you! If you wish to like someone, fine. Just don't allow yourself to fall in love. That way if things go south you don't suffer a broken heart! I suspect, however, that it will just be a matter of time before he will end up getting involved with her again, based upon what she reports.
Sorry just doesn't cut it! In order to do something physical shameful and rotten, the rottenness must first be in your mind. You can claim to be sorry for the physical act but the mindset that led up to it remains. When trust is broken/betrayed, love dies! People who claim to be sorry are just sorry they got caught most of the time! There is no genuine remorse! My second wife did the same thing, and when she tried to touch me, it gave me the creeps. It wasn't really about avoiding physical contact, but avoiding the rotten person she had become!
Hey man, just wanted to give you a heads up that some TTS channel called Qley recently uploaded this story and pretty much ripped your video word for word. It’s like they put your audio in a speech to text program and then fed it directly back to text to speech. Your commentary while reading is what tipped me off, as I remembered having heard those specific comments when I watched your video. Keep up the great work!
The ability of people to lie to themselves impresses me time and time again. "I was completely happy and furfilled......... love my husband and our two boys.....more than anything in the world. I was totally satisfied emotionally, mentally and physically......He was all I ever dreamed of and so much more." How can someone truly still believe all of this bullshit, after doing what she did?
I hate the defensive it was just sex or didn’t mean anything. So you are willing to grenade your and your kids lives and hurt your partner on an almost pathological level for something that meant nothing. Thats what your love and vows mean to you. That’s why cheaters frickin suck.
When she offered Jim this post nuptial agreement, I could see EXACTLY what was going on in Jim's mind! Especially when he wanted to add that extra stipulation. Jim was thinking, ok, if I put up with this woman for 30 months, staying married to her, THEN I'll be able to proceed with the divorce and I'll be able to walk away with everything! Compared to if Jim divorced her now, he'd lose half of everything he add. So Jim was using his analytical mindset, calculated what he'd have to put up with and then was telling himself this is the plan for me to escape this woman with all my stuff. So to me, this was a VERY SMART MOVE on Jim's part! 👍
WHAT? A 2 year affair and he didn't divorce her and she is whining about it? Plus, if she was so totally happy, then why cheat? Because this gardening tool is nothing else but a total 304. She was or is only sorry by getting caught and has no remorse for how she back stabbed her husband. She deserved the short end of the stick.
@@AMAYZlN Ok so I did get the math wrong based on when she is telling the story 19 months after D-Day. Does it make her less guilty? But you got it wrong too, as she said at the 5:38 time stamp, she ended it after 11 months.
I understood her motives to make that post-nup offer but she was basically offering a business deal when she thought she was offering love. I knew what was going to happen. She should have insisted her husband sleep in the same room as her for the post-nup to be valid. The more time her husband stayed with her the more he was going to dislike her. If they shared a bed she had a much better chance. He likely would have still accepted the post-nup if they had to share the bedroom and maybe reconciliation would have occurred. She should have just accepted that he doesn't want her and accepted divorce when he asked to sleep in separate rooms. Marriage is built on loyalty. She shouldn't have cheated in the first place.
I think infidelity should go on record and cheaters should be registered as a cheater/homewrecker. Just like how you can check if your new neighbor is a pedo or convicted felon. That feeling of you can't explain what it is, is most likely lust. Now OP is not the first choice for her husband. His first choice is a 2000 Nissan Skyline R34 GTR! with an all wheel drive/rear wheel drive selector switch drivetrain.
Up until a couple of years ago in Taiwan, it was a crime (minor). You'd get convicted and all that goes with it and it would follow you for the rest of your life. You would have to have the cops catch them in the act. So, it paid to be buddy's with the cops.
She does play games with the truth, Jim should paternity test his kids. I don't think this is her first affair ,ill bet there were other guys like Charles in charge. She was too much of a pro for this to be her first you can always notice that by how they handle their affair. Jim played this one well, and will find a good wife someday
"OOOPS, I willfully screwed around on my husband for 3 years" does not compare to "OOOPS, I accidentally backed into the mailbox." One is a moral crime and one is a mistake.
The trust took years to build, and she destroyed it - technically instantly the first time she cheated, probably before it even got physically intimate. It's unlikely she could ever get that trust back.
She said she loves her husband and two kids. Just not enough to stop herself from cheating…. Got it!
She does not love them, thats the lie she tells herself to sleep at night.
They love their "tingles" above anything else. Family, children, religion....none of those are more important to modern women than their "tingles".
@@castiel4746😊😊
Fefailes love "what they get"...
'love' never meant shit to women.
My wife was also unfaithful and as soon as I confirmed it, I moved out and filed for divorce. There is no way I could continue to be married to her. I don't see how anyone could. She later went through two husbands, one of them throwing her and all her things out in the street. Once a cheater always a cheater. I have since married a wonderful woman who has been with me for over 25 years. I hope to be with her for another 25 or more.
Tell us more about that, did she ever reached out to you with her sorry ass?
God bless you, brother. You handled yourself most admirably!
Another 25 years or more 😅😅 mate, why jus forever? 25 or more is that some regulation, retirement or silver jubilee 😂😂😂😂
@@nyashajaravani3622 Maybe he's old.
@@nyashajaravani3622 He's probably nearing 50, if not over it already. Average life expectancy for a man in the US is about 75 years so, he's basically saying for the rest of his life.
An affair is not a mistake. It's planned.
Especially when she repeated the act of betrayal multiple times.
Planned obsolescence, in fact 👌 😎 😌
An affair is not a single mistake. It is a series of decisions tens, hundreds, and possibly even thousands of decisions, all aimed at one thing for you to cheat on someone that you swore to love.
100%. Correct. Cheating is a calculated and willful decision to disrespect the person you claim to love. Never a mistake....never the fault of alcohol.....never coerced. Personally I could never give a cheater a second chance Once and OUT
Not sure at what point mistake became a synonym of accident…
Seems like a distinctive pattern. I caught my xw 35 yr old cheating with a 27 yr old punk, too. I divorced her, and punk dumped her in 6 months. Now she's someone else's problem. I'm living my best life now.
Good job, Mister! Living well is indeed the best revenge... :)
Bet she tried running back to you. Just like oh thanks you want to give me a used Kleenex
Women are meant for company, not for keeping.
Marriage is the worst thing a man can ever do in his life.
@@SuperAxon2I agree with you wholeheartedly and they are like cars or any other form of recreation when you're done using them you put them away until you find another one or you get bored and you want to take it for a ride again but it's always better to rent because then you have no headaches and the expenses are lower or non-existent!!
Mine was cheating on me and then filed for divorce. But shortly afterwards, she must have had a moment of truth with the dude she was cheating with because she fought like hell to get me back. NOPE!
Jim is being very smart. 30 months and 1 day and then he gets everything.
Jim's playing the long game.
Real men are built to do the hard things up front so that things are easy on the back side.
A lesson that escapes these "handle it like a boss"-types that think going Alpha mode immediately is the best response...
I'd take that deal
He had just 6 months to get the deal....
@marvinjackson1215 - He did, and she saw it coming and made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Jim is an idiot.
1. That postnup would never have survived court. You can't includes custody or child support in a prenup. Don't so probably invalidated all of it.
2. It was trivial for her to simply do something which would cause him not to get through the 2.5 years anyway. Which she did by moving out. She could have blown money, gotten drunk, gotten the children involved, bad mouthed him, etc., etc. and he'd have to kick her out anyway.
3. Even if he waited six month months and divorce, she could easily have used custody of the kids against him. She could get custody and threaten to move to Alaska unless he gives her the house. Notice that he already said she could take everything if she left the boys.
4. It was a waste of two years of his life -- now in misery along with putting his kids through that.
5. By 'reconciling', he gave up any rights to divorce over the affair.
6. In the end he got 25% of the assets (which she didn't have to get), didn't avoid lawyers, less half of two years income, etc. Nothing was said of custody (prenups can promise custody). So, if he had $400k in the house he got $100k. Except he put two years of his salary into the marriage, so we'd up what... $40k maybe? That's $20k/year for with a witch, no sex, being miserable, seeing your kids go through that, etc.
I just don't understand how a woman can say she loves her husband so much yet she betrayed and cheated on him for months. She is sick in the head.
She has no clue of what deeply being in love means.
She's just a woman--- this is how they are "wired"
Everything is about the feels, the surge of emotions.
This is what Chad and Tyrone offer, why 99.99% of woman seek out that one per cent of men that fall into that category.
They never really want me or you--- there's no passion or moist kitty with the nice guy, only bad boy Chad.
But at least we know all this now, we have an endless amount of proof of females true feelings towards men.
So, what are the 99% of men, the ones they don't really want, or desire, wasting our time and resources on these ungrateful, selfish, reptilian parasites for?
Just walk away, leave them to Chad, live your life for you, guys, enjoy your pursuits and hobbies free from their shaming tactics and manipulations.
Free from the self created drama and stress they bring you, free from the burden of financing their endless need for "stuff".
Freedom beckons---
Embrace it!
that's 's what my Wife does. Not physically, but emotionally...
You’re right my friend…..
Women love with words. Men love with actions.
"Only 4 times"...listen cheater, ONE time is once too many, to say nothing of the emotional affair.
Edit: FYA, this isn't a first choice issue, as there was no other man in the picture she was pining for, present or past. This is a 304 behavior tendency issue. This woman has no discipline when it comes to her "animal" side - something men go to jail for if we act on it, but society makes excuses for the woman when she does it.
They say stuff like that as if people are too stupid to think about what that actually meant.
So... you have s3x only four times over a five month period, not sure if when Steve's MIL caught them counted as #4 or #5. That means... you had weeks or month between session and kept doing it. You could see your husband, children, his children, his wife, etc. dozens of times between each encounter, but still went back to do it again. It also means you planned each encounter with cold efficiency and in the full knowledge of what would happen.
It this any better than going at it every week?
@@johnbradbury8610 most likely more then 20 for sure in four months 😂
@@BW022 I mean what it tells me is that they were trying to be careful about hiding it. It was calculated.
I also wonder, how long would it have gone on, and how far would she let it go if she wasn’t caught?
Years? Maybe she would get pregnant and pretend it’s her husbands? What was her long term plan? Did she even have one? If they hadn’t gotten caught, that family would STILL be living there. That temptation would STILL be there. That man would ALWAYS be screwing her behind her husbands back. Maybe not often, but every few weeks, months, or years, they would fall in the sack together.
@@estebanslavidastic4382 Again, it doesn't matter how you interpret it or what the truth was... it doesn't make it better. Let's say they weren't being careful about it? So? That just means she's stupid, can't control herself, and there is no reason OP should ever trust her. She was blackmailed into going again... still can't trust her. Alien mind rays from Mars... still can't trust her. See... there is no good answer.
@@estebanslavidastic4382 p
Imagine looking at your wife every day for two years and knowing that the last time she made love it was with someone else. I wouldn’t want to touch her either. And his friends come by for an evening of cigars and bourbon, and they see his wife and know she puts out for other men. Those must have been good times, too. Jim deserves better.
She isn't making love, it is just dirty old ssxx nothing else. I would leave in a heart beat. Have a lawyer remove my name from everything.
The chances of a male being intimate with his wife after she cheats are not good at all. I think it's about 95% of men who walk out and never go back.
Lol, jims bourbon and cigar buddies, " hey jim,,,,,,,rob,steve and i were thinking, since you want no part of that, would you mind if we got er to throw back a few and run a train on it" ?????
Most men don't cheat because they needed a lot of luck to get a woman in the first place.
Via porn they have been unfaithful in their head thousands of times.
Ya, keep the regular STD testing going! Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha.
She is so happy and fulfilled with her husband and family that she decided to cheat on them all - what a load of crap!
Load of crap???? She 😍 😍 😍 loved her marriage 💑 to DEATH.
FOR REAL!
She had no choice, it just happened. Almost like a trip and fall. These things happen. There are no explanations.
@@glenpersinger3390no it did not this woman and Azp planned it all out god lord it was no accident they knew what they were found what they didn’t realize was getting caught they acted lol ke baby’s no security on making sure no one could just walk in on them pure stupied😭😭😭💩😭😭😮😮
@@glenpersinger3390 Yeah right, she tripped, fell and landed on that other guy's schlong?
When the garden tool says "We were having NO problems and I was happy" what they are saying is that the husband is worth less than nothing. She despises him so much that she didn't need a reason to betray him.
Can't turn a ho into a house wife.
Maybe….I think she was just plain old bored….a suburban house wife with kids…I would guess that it would be nearly impossible to feel excited about life, if she’s following a bunch of IG accounts of women jet setting all over the world, having adventures, hook ups with top tier men ect life would definitely feel bland. Comparison is the thief of joy.
i never thought of that. but it makes sense.Truly pathetic.someone should make a meme out this.
I thought my relationship with the Bear was perfect.We were comunicating. I don't know what went wrong? We were BBQ'in steaks. I was playing with her kids. I thought everything was great? We were all freinds. What went wrong? This is not right.! We need more education, and make the bears more aware of this issue. . Do we have anyone who cares??? Am i the only one who cares about anything?, and wants to save the Earth? I'm getting a Wee bit trigered.
Wow, never thought of it that way, but that truly is the gist of that comment.
Hi, I agree with your statement. One thing the SHAM needs to realize is if you had to go to work every day and sometimes have to work six days a week they would appreciate the position that their live is at this time in life..@@carbonie_fibraro
No way you love your husband or children it’s not possible to cheat for 5 months and love them. Also you are right no way you only did it 4 times in 5 months.
She wasn't going to stop. She freely admitted she wanted the side piece and benefits of a husband.
More like 4 times per week for 5 months…
she said his D was trash too... but yet she kept going back! Women dont go back if the d was trash, they go back if it was good! I bet he was blowing them cheeks out too! lol
plus this guy was not the her first side piece, just the first one she got caught with
I have made the mistake of having an affair with married women & trust me when a married woman cheats the sex is insanely hot & they want that sex as much as possible. In this case with Steve living across the street they were doing the dirty at least 4 times/week
“I’ll spend the rest of my life making it up to you”. How wonderful, your affection will no be coming from love; instead it’s coming from guilt. Nothing better than guilty affection…
She says she will accept abuse. Might wanna put it to the test.
@@ethosterros9430😂😂😂
Seeing as a cheater (at least my cheater) continously said I love you while cheating, maybe guilt driven instead wouldn't be so bad.
You ever watch tennis? Whenever counting the scores instead of saying zero they say love-then whatever point the other has. This is why to me hearing the word I love you means nothing. Words are cheap, always look for the actions that are supposedly tied to that word instead.@@hdw237
I think your comment is on-target. She gets her way for thirty-months, then it's his turn to reap the benefit of her post-nuptial agreement.
I understand why some may criticize Jim's decision to stay with her, but thinking logically, to sacrifice 30 months but then have a clean divorce without losing your assets sounds like a really good deal. And he made his intention clear when he added the not sleeping together clause.
He is waiting for this time period to run out, before he can divorce her and not lose 50%.
That is 2.5 years. More over, it's still stupid as any lawyer would tell him...
1. Postnups often don't stand up in court.
2. Postnups can't cover custody or child support. Those are rights of the child. Even putting them in a post-nup probably invalidates it.
3. It would be trivial for the wife to do something to cause him to have to break the 30 month requirement.
4. She can always use custody of the kids to 'renegotiate'. Once she has primary custody she can move them to Alaska... or else I want the house.
5. Contacts only work if both sides are working towards the same goal. The fact she is willing to blackmail you -- you must say with me for 30 months or else -- makes it clear she isn't to be trusted.
6. Putting your children through 2.5 years of lies, waiting to backstab you, etc.
7. Agreeing to not divorce immediately may actually prevent you from filing on the grounds of adultery.
Sorry, this is just a bad deal. If she actually loved you, she would have just given you that deal to start with.
@@rekslegiune6004exactly what I was thinking. He's biding his time until when the 30 months are up, then he'll kick her to the curb and divorce her.
You read too slow period
Lol get rid of her period
She offered the greatest gift possible. He at first told her he would give away everything to get rid of her. She countered with an offer that if he can simply navigate 30 months of ignoring her and then divorce, he gets the best of everything. Well played sir, well played. Stick to the grind, the end is within sight.
A fool's errand....he'll spend 30 torturous months with the b**ch and she'll fight the post-nuptial agreement in divorce court and take half anyway because courts side with whores 97% of the time. He's an idiot. And soon enough, he'll be a sucker too.
He did if to get his kids through high school. Once theyre in college hes gonna go scorched earth. The discipline this man has tells me everything about him.
Keeping a cheating wife is like having someone blow snot into your own handkerchief,
How was this well played? She ended up moving out and he asked to divorce within the 30 months anyway? The postnup didn't apply and she gave him the 3/4s of assets. He (and the boys) went through two years of this. Is 1/4 of his assets (less two years of putting more money into the marriage) worth it?
Or he could have divorced. Gotten two years of his life back, not put his sons through this, and either asked nice for the kids and house or played hardball. Was 25% worth it? He's still young enough most of his lifetime income is coming up. That would have been two years to heal, find someone else, etc.
Being in one house with a snake just won't work for me.
My guess is no female neighbour would let this woman anywhere near their husbands. So she's rejected and isolated from the normal social interactions of acquaintances, friends and family and often that's what makes life worthwhile.
Wouldn't you if you were a wife?
Slore !!!!!!!!!!!
to quote the great american philosopher michael corleone "this is the price you pay for the life you chose"
Why? By the logic that usually blame wayward spouse n not the AP, shes not at fault. Its wayward husband's fault.
Or is the logic wrong?
@@eleethtahgra7182 not sure who you are reaponding to but the wh got divorced and moved she stayed in the neighborhood where everyone knew what she had done
I think she overestimated her ability to control her soon to be ex husband . 30 months and keep all his assets , this guy won big time .
If this known duplicitous deceiving immoral liar can be trusted to keep her word. 😅😅😅 she didn't keep her wedding vows so why all of a sudden should he trust this skank's words?
Unfortunately, this woman can’t be trusted. She goes with her feelings, to hell with the consequences. this will happen again and again with her next partner.
yup a clear example of a chick that believe feels over reals.
but then he can just kick her out as his ex FWB...if Jim is smart he will leave her in that category...no emotional attachement, just FWBs, and if he find she was with someone else too (while FWB) end it permanently. Its a win/win for him, and if he is able to have his feelings in check even better
Clearly not true. Steve was led by his lust, right? There are trustworthy men and women just like there are skanky men and women. If you believe that all men are above reproach then you're just setting yourself up to be blindsided by an amoral Steve type of guy.
@RobKoch1962
The prenup is comical... offering the boy an "open marriage". Who comes up with crap like this?? A 304... that's who!
Exactly, as soon as she thinks she won't get caught, she'll do it again. Guaranteed.
Bring back legal repercussions for cheating
Yeah you should get nothing in divorce for infidelity
I have always said that. I think that public lashing naked would put a damper on that. It will not fully stop because some people only care about themselves.
And for cutting the spouse off.
@@coureenlawrence4915
Doesnt matter.
As long as theres a way to "hit back" at the cheater and the AP, then its already okay.
Murderers are put in jail...or death penalty. That doesnt stop murderer from murdering. But it would bring closure to the victim's family.
Same with infidelity.
You are so right we need laws on these cheaters! It will protect the loyal person if you want to keep laying down with strangers !” Stay single and do all you want🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
This woman is a piece of work. I don't blame her husband kicking her to the curb like the 304 she is. I don't blame him for not wanting to touch her at all. She threw her life away for sex according to her wasn't worth much. Her saying that she was so innocent in high school I don't believe that bullshit. It seems to me when she met her future husband she met her "nice guy" so she felt safe and never thought he would leave her. She chose to be a stay-at-home mom. She wanted validation according to her from some other man. The only validation she needed was from her husband. She did this because she wanted to. Oh I'll just have my little fling and just be with my husband. If you believe that I have prime real estate in the Everglades for sale. I bet this wasn't the first time she ever cheated.
What is absolutely astonishing to me is just how many women have this exact same mindset. They have it all, but feel the need to PlSS it away for a little validation and the chance to "feel butterflies" once again. These are truly fickle and craven creatures, these modern "empowered" women.
I don't believe she didn't have sex since earlier and I don't believe Steve was the first Ap she had, that's the one she got caught with and write about.
People don't want to be seeing as villain so they tried to minimize their actions or omitting as much as they can.
Why shouldn't she get a little validation 🙄 here and there? She would have stopped in due time anyway. Mother in laws always but in where their not wanted..
@@glenpersinger3390 You sound like a wimp and a simp. I am sure if you are in a relationship you have been cheated on numerous times. If you need validation from outside your relationship why be in one anyway. That is why couples need to communicate their feelings good or bad.
She's not only a piece of work, her story is practically a tell-all of typical female behavior: keeping orbiters around for months but easily giving it up to a guy she had no future with but felt the tingles for, cheating despite "having the perfect marriage," willing to "be the perfect wife" only _after_ she got caught cheating, willing to sexually share the man she wants, and thinking she has the right to expect Jim to take her back. The cherry on top? _All the women telling her to "hang in there" because he'll come around eventually._
That mother-in-law is badass.
Shes knew right away how much these two were hurting her daughter, even if Marsha wasnt aware of it yet. A strong protective instinct is definitely something to respect.
Great point. On p*rn hub the mother in-law would have joined in.
The key loss here is trust. People get so lost in "forgiveness" they lose sight of this. This husband has lost the ability to trust his wife as well as losing a lot of respect in the neighborhood. Here is another thing to think about. I know some people refuse to accept this but people that cheat have something inside them that is broken. The act of cheating is the last link in a chain of events. Normal trustworthy people know how to break that chain. When this wife went to that dealership she knew full dang well she was going to have a meeting alone with Steve. This is where normal people break that chain. Jim also will never be able to forget what she did. Oh, he may try to, but those demons will come back and keep coming. This is why most reconciliations implode after about 3 years, OR the couple just becomes roommates with all passion gone. I know several men that are living this way. You can see the pain in their eyes. Now, I know men cheat too, but this OP is a female. This is why I am saying that a high amount of females don't understand just how cheating messes with a man's mind. If they loved these men as they claimed most all cheating would stop!
"Jim also will never be able to forget what she did. Oh, he may try to, but those demons will come back and keep coming."
This.
My first girlfriend cheated on me. Not only was the most painful thing internally that I had to do was walk away from that relationship [even told the other man he could have her for all I cared - problem was, I _did_ care, I just did what was necessary]. But even walking away, I remember that day like it was this morning.
I cannot trust fully ever since then.
I'm 25 years married now, 30 total together with my wife. She has never done anything to break my trust, and if anything has always gone out of her way to spend time with me whenever she can, even now - which I understand is highly unusual, as most marriages go kind of dead at about 7-10 years where the couple just tolerates each other.
I do my best to not take out on her what that one girl did to me, but those demons do resurface from time to time and test my mettle. While I always heed any warnings my instincts bring up, I always take the time to verify before making any decisions about anything - and that has, so far, turned out to be a sound approach.
If this is how I am with a completely different woman, imagine if I tried to stay and reconcile with the one who actually cheated on me...
Ironically, I had decided after breaking up with the cheater that I would not stay where I was not wanted. Ever. This has really served me well over the years. With any person or group, whether it be a woman, a friend, a social group, an employer - didn't matter, you demonstrate by your actions that you don't want me, I'll pack up and go elsewhere. I don't typically act on one-offs unless it's particularly egregious. I look at treatment patterns over time and, as necessary, distance myself accordingly.
Example: At one job as Technical Services Manager, I let go 4 different customers over 3 years there who were constantly pulling shenanigans - one in particular kept short paying the invoices, giving themselves the "prepay discount" without pre-paying, so after our accountant was exasperated for the umpteenth time at not being able to collect the difference, I took the phone out of her hands and spoke with the contact** - same contact who had called earlier for service - and told him since he's obviously unhappy with our service due to his refusal to fully pay for services rendered, he can go find another company to service his network. My trip to his distant neck of the woods is hereby canceled. [Um...ok?...he said, nervously.] Have a nice day. And hung up. The accountant, a woman who had been pulling her hair out moments ago trying to collect from this bastard, just looked at me wide-eyed and said "wow." I just smiled and asked, "feel better?" "Oh yeah!" Funny side effect: production in the company would start gaining for 4-6 weeks in a row each time I "fired" a customer like that, for the simple reason that I remove the chaos such toxic customers bring, allowing us to focus on those who appreciated the work we do and don't give us nonsense in return. The first two times I did that, I got an earful from the owner - after that, he just accepted it as part of doing business. Amazing how much latitude you get when you're able to improve the bottom line...
Go where people want you, want/need your services, and respect you. Whatever demons or struggles you are dealing with otherwise, put yourself in an environment most conducive to how you want to live your life. This exertion of control over your own environment is itself quite therapeutic and creates sanity. This applies _especially_ to any lifelong partner you might enter into a committed relationship with, if you're going for one. Find one who loves, values and respects YOU, and shows it.
**I had had one conversation about the invoices with him at a previous visit, just to see if he had a problem with our work, if we needed to improve in any area - nope, he was happy with what we did for him. Well, clearly not, since you didn't want to pay the bill in full...
Way to live your life. Add MGTOW Monk! The best wife will always be on the hair line of destroying her family & the best husband, it’s their nature. And, they are never at fault!!! They are the most shellfish creatures I have in my 78 years known. Want peace, find God, want love, get a dog & get a truck. Do something Great with your life. True happiness!!! Don’t look, don’t touch, don’t talk to them & don’t look back. Be what God created you to be.
Today I am 65. Years ago when I graduated from HS I was dating a girl a grade ahead of me. After I graduated from HS I joined the USAF and 4 years later got out. I used my GI Bill and started school at Georgia Tech. After I got out I resumed my relationship with Terri. Terri was unhappy I was in school. As I look back to that time I can see it. To make a long story short her brother Don came on the campus and told me Terri had slipped off with a group of people and cheated on me up in a hotel in Tenn. He asked me to leave Terri alone. I was devastated. I also almost flunked out of school. I was also working 2 jobs to help pay for my room and board as well as some of the things the GI Bill would not pay for. It was tough and I was only eating 1 meal a day. Sometimes I would walk the streets of Atlanta crying. Unless you have experienced this kind of betrayal you don't know how it feels. Terri also was impregnated during that trip. That news took my spirit away. I came close to quitting school and at that point in my life really did not want to exist any longer. I also had my family ignore me. I was losing weight because I was not eating. I asked for some money and was told no. I had a chance meeting with one of the School Deans and he got me some help and slowly I rebounded. I graduated from Georgia Tech and today have degrees in Mechanical and Electrical Engineering. I am also a self-taught Systems Engineer and an INCOSE ESEP. I own and operate my own Consulting company. Back to my story. I was sitting on a bench near my room listening to someone playing "The Wall" by Pink Floyd. When that part called "Another Brick in the Wall Part 3" came on. I can quote those lyrics from memory. That was the day I knew I would never be a husband. That was the day I put myself first. In the years since I have had the same family that refused to help me with food ask me for money. I told them NO! Terri tried for years to get me to talk to her. We did talk last year. Terri had breast cancer and as a favor to her brother, I spoke to her. Terri passed away last year. I did not attend her funeral. My main issue is Terri took my ability to trust away. In the years since I have been in relationships, but I will NEVER allow a female to hurt me again.
@Michael Myers Don is a solid stand up guy,there need to be more guys out there like him who will hold their own kin accountable. Most would be like "that's not my business ". Accountability is everyone's business and Don see that and enforced it with his own sister.
Those demons end up killing you or turning you into something you hate but you can't forget, and the images that pop in your head only get more vivid and gut wrenching to the point of depression, and its a lot worse when the ap is your best friend and that situation brings on the mentality of "everyone is against me, nobody is trustworthy" and its pain
My favorite person in this story is Marsha's mom
Whilst I understand her anger, and I think that Steve and Amy are scumbags, too many women are too comfortable with laying their hands on men. Steve would've been well within his rights to lay his mother-in-law out flat. I would've.
I think Jim make the correct move. He has stability for his kids while keeping his assets. With the option to terminate after 30 months.
Don't get married, fellas. Don't get married. Don't even date.
Save yourselves the headaches, drama, bullsh**, and a financial drain...
Don't get married.
Noted.
Love the no touching and monthly STD checks.
yes that is gold! it really hammers in how much he distrusts her.
Why if no sex would you need monthly STD checks? You wouldn't
@@elessartelcontar9415as a gotcha if she strays and catches something nasty!
@@elessartelcontar9415 To remind her that he thinks she's a whore
@@elessartelcontar9415 It humiliates her. I would go with her to the STD clinic and ask questions like: "Will this test catch any STDS she could get from anal? What if there were multiple men she was with, would this test catch STDs from both of them?"
As Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash once put it, "There ain't no good in an evil-hearted woman."
...As a Recovering Simp, I was enlighten by the possibility of a woman cheating after an extended period of time. The situation has not occurred to me that a woman carnal desire can manifest itself after a long period of time. Fortunately for me, my heart has enough scars that I can turn off a relationship with just a flip of the metaphorical switch. Just goes to show that learning new things doesn't have a time or age limit...
It's called the 7 year itch
Recovering simp 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Charles turned her into an alpha widow. She never got over him. Steve brought all those old feelings back. If Jim takes her back, he’ll never get the trust back. Its over!
I would typically agree that Jim should divorce his cheating wife but man that contract is not something to not consider..think about it guys, in many of these types of stories, the cheating wife isn't offering a deal of this magnitude. I mean clearly Jim has no intention of getting back with her and his sole focus is getting through the 30 months at which point he can drop her like a bad habit and walk away without being financially destroyed so this is one of the very rare times I can understand why he would stay.
An unenforceable contract that will simply get thrown out in Family Court ... but only after it is used to show how badly the husband treated the wife ... isn't something that is smart to consider.
@@mlmii1933 She had her lawyer write to up. Everything will hold up because the OP requested it, not her husband.
@mlmii1934
Nah, doesn't matter who requested it, or even if 10 lawyers wrote it up. If a legal pre-nup, pre-approved by both parties and their lawyers, can be thrown out with impunity by a judge, no post-nup is safe from the same treatment. It WILL get thrown out, I guarantee it, especially since she moved out and (I believe) caused a violation of it on his side of the agreement.
The courts are INSANELY biased against men. This wouldn't stand in a court of law.
She can't control herself.. whenever that type of guy comes around she's going to lay down for him.
Or bend over
Never take the bait of a "one sided" open relationship... It will be offered as a compensation, but in reality it drags the "victim" down to the level of the "offender"... It will never be presented in that aspect.. but trust me when the "victim" takes the bait it gives the offender the chance to say " you are no better than me" as a point in an argument
And allows them to have that memory of cheating to be a good memory and guilt is gone and it allows them to use it against you later.
What everyone is missing is that she didn’t stop the affair on her own. She got caught. So what she has is worldly sorrow. Had she not been caught it would probably still be going on. So how could he trust her again
Yup, and even in her last message she confirms it. The risk was not worth the thrill. And after she was found out she never even stopped once to think about how her husband felt, all she was worried was about losing him and the life he gave her.
She doesn't regret what she did, only that she got caught.
@@MeidoInHebun single for life and loving it. And I mean truly single
I love a happy ending when the guy isn’t a damn simp lol
It would have been a happier ending if jim started to f Steve's ex wife. I bet she was hotter than this OP.
She'll definitely lying about the number of times. She said there was no emotional connection only physical but somehow she sleeps with him almost instantly but only 3 more times over 5 months. I dont beleive that for a second
More like 40 times, not 4.
Rule of 3 for women says it is at least 12.
Her intro about Charles explains perfectly why smart men DO NOT take it as a compliment when a woman says they'd make a great husband. Men know what they mean by that backhanded bs. Men probaly shouldn’t get married at all, the way the laws are currently practiced, but def don't marry the woman that doesn't desire you the way this chick did Charles. You'll pay for it in more ways than one, otherwise.
Try this experiment: go ask, one by one, about a dozen or so women, "In a word or phrase, what attributes/behaviors/characteristics/qualities make for a good husband?" Write their answers down in Column 'A'. Next, you can come back to the same women after a few days, or find a dozen different women, and ask them, "In a word or phrase, what attributes/behaviors/characteristics/qualities make a man sexy?" Write their answers down in Column 'B'. Compare the two columns,
You will find ZERO phrases in both columns. NONE. NO OVERLAP.
Conclusion: Husbands.
Are.
Not.
Sexy.
Yep, she had the "bad boy fling" when she was 18 and craved it again. It was not surprising that she went for that again, regardless of the potential ramifications that might happen with her family, marriage, or anything else. She was thinking with the organ between her legs and nothing else mattered.
She got wet and horny and had zero control of her urges. That's the secret most women can't accept, that they will give up ANYTHING if a guy gets them wet and horny or gives them a strong O. It's the hormones, and any logical reactions will be suppressed over the emotional and physical reactions those women have to these guys. And the women typically say "I don't know how that happened", it's called thinking with your vagina, and women are worse than men when it really hits them, zero control of thinking of the future.
It's the reason women lust after some guys and marry others. What do all these stories have in common? "I loved my husband and was completely fulfilled by him emotional and physically." No you weren't, because if you truly were, no amount of temptation would sway you and you wouldn't even put yourself in these situations. It's all just excuses for poor impulse control. It's truly sad that many of the women in these stories talk about the "attention I wasn't getting" yet what had they done to get that attention? Had they talked to their spouse about it? Tried to stiry things up in their apparently stale marriage, etc? Or did they sit back, do nothing, and then make excuses that the excitement and things had faded? Did they go to the gym, take care of themselves and look good physically? That's one positive way to get your husband to always give you attention. If you're not doing any of those things it's not surprising that there was no spark or attention being given. Long term relationships take WORK to keep strong and vital and engaged.
@@williamclayton9566Perfectly summarized
@@williamclayton9566husbands aren't sexy, but useful....
as are ATMs 😂
My father told me years ago to practice the three f's when dealing with women. Find them, f*ck them, and forget them. I did not follow that advice and I have very much regretted it.
17:06 "He said he'd give me everything he owns if I'd just disappear and leave him and the boys alone."
That sentence is pretty heartbreaking. He's so hurt by her fuck up that he'd do anything to get away from her.
And im willing to bet she ignores that and keeps trying to reconcile.
As they do.
Nah dude made up his mind already. He's playing the long con
@@fumothfan9 Yes, since she offered the post nuptial, hes just playing along to protect his hard earned assets.
yup, oh you bet she does, I just think unless a female has played sports in high school and college, the majority of females have no idea of what a team player really is. they are selfish by nature. its what they are. their daddy's if he was a responsible man who was aware of the shit girls pull and nipped it in the bud would have excised those bad traits out of her. but if she cried to get what she wanted and has been learning how to be an expert liar. the possibility of her understanding that she was the villain in this story is pretty remote.
her continuing to knock on the door and try different ways to get back in your good graces should frighten them to their core. Because it clearly shows how little words have meaning to her.
Agreed; she was basically acting as if she could overcome her betrayal by loading a previous save game...real life doesn't have those.
Hearing all these stories I've come to the conclusion that marriage is a comfort net for women. It gives too much security, too much comfort so they act out. Apparently, they shouldn't get security.
it is because traditionally the women took care of the house and children as an unpaid and unrecognized but extremely essential job, meanwhile the man was the one who worked to bring the money. In that arrangement, ofc you need to protect the wife.
Love doesn't mean shiz without loyalty. If you cheat you don't love and respect your partner. It's that simple folks.
An affair is probably the single most disrespectful thing a woman can do to a man and loss of trust is irreparable.
Women don't understand how much effort a man has to put in just to get a date let alone anything else.
Women also need to know that men never trust or forgive male friends that betray them either.
betrayal is the worst thing you can do to a person.
Agreed; trust is the bedrock of everything. When trust is destroyed, it is as final and absolute as a death; the woman the man loved does not exist anymore...
She's willing to move mountains to win him back, but not willing to resist temptation to not lose him in the first place.
It's so sad to see.
Foolish woman always speak those words. Moving a mountain is almost impossible yet keeping her dirty panties on is much easier in comparison. Somehow we are to believe she will do the near impossible when the easy she failed
Agreed; or so she claims...
It doesn't matter how many times it happened, once is too much. Allowing a man to go sleep with other women doesn't really show you love him, not in my eyes.
It sounds like something a cheater would want. So in trying to get him back, she shows him what she would want in the opposite situation. Being able to eff other women isn't what a good man wants.
If a woman breaks her first promise to be loyal, what makes her think she can convince to her husband she’ll keep her second promise?
I think hubby did the right thing just ignore her and date other women and avoid her so she will leave. I think he should be OPs sidechick
Well I think he's playing the smart game and not having sex with her for 30 months and then kind of force her to get a divorce... he only agreed to it so that you didn't get screwed over in the courts before the prenup, so in reality hes playing smart long game.. cuz I would do the same thing cuz f having to give your spouse half of what you earned when they're a cheater
She doesn’t get it. She cheated on him multiple times during a months long affair and it only stopped because she got caught in the act. She lied to his face every day for five months without qualm and would have continued to do so indefinitely. He has to realize their relationship was never real, he was the safe bet, the backup guy, the guy to pay bills and play the role. There is no way he could continue with her because he would definitely be setting himself up for round two is another smoldering stranger crossed her path. Hopefully he can just coparent with this creature and find companionship somewhere else.
This dude is a genius... He’s basically waiting the 30 months to get a fairer deal in his divorce instead of doing it right now. This lady is just too blind to see.
After a cheating wife is discovered, it's extremely disgusting to even look at her. It's equivalent to entering your car after it's been ransacked by thieves. I usually put the car on Auto Trader shortly afterwards, wish there was a Wifey Trader.
Might not even be worth trading for a burger and fries
@greyman6353 with the flooding of Simps in the market, you will be surprised.
It's like getting a used handkerchief back !!
@@donaldforest1942 🤮
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Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Why does she get to have the hot husband?!
Jimbo played the long game and downgraded his wife to a possible FWB while sparing his assets. That Jim is one sharp beta provider.
Hehehehehehehehe
I’m sorry, but only 4 times in 5 months and the last is where they get caught. She can’t even be honest in her anonymous confession. If they were comfortable enough to do it in his bed, they had done it more than 4 times. Hope her Ex finds someone better.
LOL, 40 times maybe, but 4 times in 5 months with a guy she has the hots for is a joke.
You're never a woman's first choice 😂😂😂 especially if she dated many men before you
QFT!
@@markymarknj huh?
Bingo! That is why God says no sex before marriage. I find today's culture very weird. People are sleeping around freely, and then getting married. Why? Why get married? What is the benefit in marrying a whore? Or marrying a Whoremonger? The result is us listening to stories on RUclips, and commenting as if we are saints, because we were not caught, and have not been caught yet. I am glad that I am saved, that I truly believe God, when he says no sex before marriage, I practice that (not easy) and will teach that to my children. Jesus is Lord.
Studies indicate that a body count of more that 3 greatly erodes a woman's ability to bond with a husband. The higher the count, the weaker the bond.
@@hermesten1000they destroy themselves. They are their own worst enemy.
An affair is not a mistake. It is a choice. Divorce is always the answer to this problem.
Basically you liked the bad boys you talk about Charlie but I’d bet there were many others. You settled for safe Jim first attracted his wage packet and bank account. Then after ensuring you would get the max out of his money in a divorce you parent trapped him with 2 kids (he needs to DNA check them, (They probably are not his) you got it in with bad boy Jim.
I'm sure that if some Charles or Steve offered to fulfill op's desires in exchange for Jim and his kids life without losing her lifestyle, she would do it without a first thought.
Without the shadow of a doubt or a backward glance…it would have been Graduation Day at the University of Monkey Branch!
When someone had a one time encounter, stopped and admitted to it, they can ague it was a mistake. When they been at it for several months, it’s can never be described as a mistake, not even in the most delusional mind.
mistake is put salt instead of sugar into coffee, or buy six eggs instead of ten...cheating is NEVER mistake...if its one night stand and you cheat, you need focus on AP, think what you will do, move to his/her place, put down clothes and start act itself, while you can stop it anytime, but decide to continue, all of this things are planned before...so as i said, cheating is NEVER mistake, its series of decisions made with choice to do it at the end, not a mistake
That is still bullshxt, how does 1 time encounter could be considered a mistake? Oops sorry I fell on the guys dick and riding it... It's like I just happen to be at the bank and I thought ..what the hell, why don't I just rob it. It's only 1 time it's a mistake. How do you mistakenly fxxk someone? Give me a break..
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It can't be described as a mistake, they themselves don't consider it a mistake and they will continue to keep going at it as long as no one knows
Even one time is not a mistake. You can't make a mistake, fall on a dick and 'accidentally' get f'cked
Nope. They put themselves in a position to be 'seduced'. Signals are signals.
As they say "Distance makes the heart grow fonder", I believe the rest of the saying is "for someone else".
A woman cheats for 3 reasons: 1) She sees her husband getting better-looking as he ages, while she's getting uglier. She needs to relive her youth by having an affair with a younger man. 2) She wants to get "kinky", but can't emotionally detach enough to feel comfortable doing these acts with her husband, so she has an affair. 3) She's bored, and wants to to something forbidden to "spice up" her life. She cheats for the excitement of cheating, and would never want her husband to do this to her. Amy cheated for reasons 1 and 3.
Amy was sure she'd get away with this. She did this as a jealous way of "stabbing Jim in the back" for being a high-value man, all the while enjoying her SAHM life. Admittedly, she claimed that Jim was a better lover than Steve, but the s-time with Steve was good because of the sheer excitement of doing something behind Jim's back. She's incredibly immature and insecure. She's obviously attracted to whatever look Charles and Steve both have, but her husband goes to the gym, so he's probably in good physical shape. Jim being in good shape probably also fueled her desire to "stab him in the back". Truth be told; though, she never intended to get caught, and was planning on continuing this whole "game" with Steve.
Jim's stipulations were spot-on, and I wouldn't doubt if he started seeing another gal. Amy might not be aware of it. Gals like Amy get desperate when they see there man is going to leave them. We've seen this in other stories. They're willing to do just about anything to keep their man from leaving or regaining his love and trust. Good for Jim for finally kicking her to the curb. I'm sure he'll find a younger, prettier gal to "move on" with, and when he does, Amy will feel even more ashamed of herself. Another woman got HER man...
I've heard more than one woman explain their cheating with your #2. Also have heard from cheating wives that would not tolerate their husband's cheating. Since Amy is a liar, there is no reason to believe her claim that Jim was a better lover than Steve, that claim may simply be damage control.
@@hermesten1000, it could be damage control, but cheaters have also admitted that the s-x with their partner is good, but they just want more of a good thing.
In many cases, the thrill of doing something to their partner that they would NEVER want their partner to do to them is what makes the encounter exciting. The actual physical satisfaction isn't that great.
I recently watched a short video from a podcast called "Whatever". These gals admitted to hooking up for ATTENTION and validation, yet didn't reach the big "O". It was more about having guys desire them than actually pleasing them physically.
Jim agreeing to this postnup is smart, stick it out 30 months and the divorce, she gets nothing. Divorce her now, and she'll get 1/2 his wealth.
I gotta ask 😂.
Guys, why are you so interested and dead set on marriage?
Multiple Choice:
•A) Is it because you're afraid of loneliness?
•B) Is it because you want to create a legacy of your own?
•C) is it because you want what you believe to be easy and readily sexual access?
•D) Or is it all the above?
I would like to know this because there's a solution to each of these without marriage in the courts of Modern Western Society. Furthermore, let's face it, it's literally impossible for you to find that special lady who isn't either imprinted on or ran through.
As a guy who isn't married or had a relationship I guess it's A n B n frankly C only happpen from what I heard if she allows or even after marriage there is a term called marital grape.. I mean you got a court certificate to do the seed yet she has to agree or else you are screwed... I mean obviously both side has to agree but usually women don't cos they don't a thing called aa testosterone in them like we men...
This marriage is over and out. It's like a glass bowl, once broken it can't be fixed.
Get a life insurance policy for yourself with your husband as the beneficiary. Make it look like an accident.
This is a problem as old as time. In fact, it is even part of a vv0man's monthly estrous cycle. When ovulating they crave Chad, when not, they crave Beta Bob, the nice guy who provides stability. You better hope that your wife will have some self-control when she is ovulating and bumps into Chad. The woman in this story didn't. Marriage is a roll of the dice at best.
When a person cheats on there partner man of female pick up and leave them ASAP !!!! And one time is enough to end the marriage lady!!!
Her post-nuptual sounds like "you get everything you want if you have me hang around for two and a half years".
And honestly? If that is what it takes to get her to back off permanently? Thats still a golden deal because nothing says that he personally has to let her back in. And the kids get to have both parents around.
Just "stick it out, be respectful and you get all your demands and some extra concessions"? I'd be down for that and Jim is a king for handling it the way he did.
Simple rule: if you aren't her first you will not be her last.
more like: “if you aren’t her first (this week) you will not be her last (this week)”.
My Philosophy is "I'm Absolutely Fine Paying full MSRP as long as ALL the Milage was put on by ME and ONLY ME."
She was basically alpha widowed by her "first love". smh
When describing the characters of this story, the first one who came to mind was the lover (Steve)... no wonder who was the most important man for this woman.
What I have noticed looking at the comments section, no woman is present. Why are they all suddenly quite when it comes to this? Does that mean that they are decievers as well, lost for words? Telling...
Trust is not something that can be earned back. You earn it once, if you burn it, it's gone forever.
Man, this guy really lucked out when she gave him this post-nup. He's essentially treating it like a divorce except they are housemates plus the kids get to stay in the family home with both parents and Jim now only has to wait till they come of age to activate the post-nup divorce and loose nothing financially.
only one problem in many states that paper is worth absolutely nothing in court as they can argue it was done under duress. Even pre-nups get thrown out a crazy amount of times for the same reason.
"There was no love between me and cheating partner. it meant nothing"
I see cheater women say this thing all the time. Everyone jokes about men not understanding women, but women do not understand men either. 1. To a man such a betrayal from his wife is inexcusable. 2. it being meaningless makes it worse. As the anguish she causes him and the ruined marriage and harm to children is so trivial that she did it for no reason at all but a passing whim
The husband is simply waiting out the clock to take advantage of the posts nuptials agreement. 13 months and counting.
I didn't think for a second Jim took her post nup agreement for the money. He was willing to give her _everything_ if she would get out (of their lives) and leave him and the kids alone. Obviously, he weighed the options carefully. He could lose his kids and his house in a divorce, or he could let her continue being a SAHM for his kids sake. I think he selflessly went through that awkward period for his kids.
Modern women prefer adventure and excitement over stability and fulfillment.
The husband is putting her through the ultimate mental gymnastic Olympics 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Family court would throw out that post nuptial so fast...
Don’t be so sure of that. I’ve seen a more lopsided one stand even when it was challenged. Which this one wasn’t.
If both lawyers agreed and signed with their signatures then usually a judge won't throw it out
OP requested it. She had her lawyer write it. Her lawyer cannot lie. It will stand.
I have been in court of equity (family court) and they. are not bound by contract law if the judge does not think it fair. Waamen are above men and children in that case. Do not count on pre/post nuotial agreement’s.
Damn straight!
Do not Marry. Do not Cohabitate. Do not Impregnate. Jim is playing a silly game of revenge which could possibly blow up in his face. What he is doing could easily be construed as mental abuse by a clever attorney. Either divorce her or stop pouting like a kid and bite the bullet and go back for round two. He needs to make up his mind!
What he should have done, when she was in her conciliatory mind set was to agree to no spousal support and he keeps the house and joint custody of the boys and divorce her. That was his revenge, not hanging around living with this woman He needs to get over himself, come to grips with the reality that just because you care for someone it doesn't necessarily follow that they will care for you!
If you wish to like someone, fine. Just don't allow yourself to fall in love. That way if things go south you don't suffer a broken heart!
I suspect, however, that it will just be a matter of time before he will end up getting involved with her again, based upon what she reports.
Sorry just doesn't cut it! In order to do something physical shameful and rotten, the rottenness must first be in your mind. You can claim to be sorry for the physical act but the mindset that led up to it remains. When trust is broken/betrayed, love dies! People who claim to be sorry are just sorry they got caught most of the time! There is no genuine remorse! My second wife did the same thing, and when she tried to touch me, it gave me the creeps. It wasn't really about avoiding physical contact, but avoiding the rotten person she had become!
She is not being fair, she is being strategic.
Hey man, just wanted to give you a heads up that some TTS channel called Qley recently uploaded this story and pretty much ripped your video word for word.
It’s like they put your audio in a speech to text program and then fed it directly back to text to speech.
Your commentary while reading is what tipped me off, as I remembered having heard those specific comments when I watched your video.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you for letting me know and for watching my channel.
The ability of people to lie to themselves impresses me time and time again.
"I was completely happy and furfilled......... love my husband and our two boys.....more than anything in the world. I was totally satisfied emotionally, mentally and physically......He was all I ever dreamed of and so much more."
How can someone truly still believe all of this bullshit, after doing what she did?
You can't go back to how it was and You destroyed it.... Let Jim move on
12 1/2 months to go! Then Jim is free and this 304 is back on the street where she belongs! Jim is a KING!
Update: Well done Jim! You’re rid of her
I hate the defensive it was just sex or didn’t mean anything. So you are willing to grenade your and your kids lives and hurt your partner on an almost pathological level for something that meant nothing. Thats what your love and vows mean to you. That’s why cheaters frickin suck.
If attention and validation was a stock, it would make a lot of people rich
If you're not her first, you are more than likely going to end up in a divorce at some point. Sad reality.
Great story. What happened in the three hours when Jim went to Steve's house in the neiborhood ? I hope he kicked his ass. I would have.
When she offered Jim this post nuptial agreement, I could see EXACTLY what was going on in Jim's mind! Especially when he wanted to add that extra stipulation. Jim was thinking, ok, if I put up with this woman for 30 months, staying married to her, THEN I'll be able to proceed with the divorce and I'll be able to walk away with everything! Compared to if Jim divorced her now, he'd lose half of everything he add. So Jim was using his analytical mindset, calculated what he'd have to put up with and then was telling himself this is the plan for me to escape this woman with all my stuff.
So to me, this was a VERY SMART MOVE on Jim's part! 👍
WHAT? A 2 year affair and he didn't divorce her and she is whining about it? Plus, if she was so totally happy, then why cheat? Because this gardening tool is nothing else but a total 304. She was or is only sorry by getting caught and has no remorse for how she back stabbed her husband. She deserved the short end of the stick.
5 months, it started 2 years ago. She was cheating for 5 months
@@AMAYZlN Ok so I did get the math wrong based on when she is telling the story 19 months after D-Day. Does it make her less guilty? But you got it wrong too, as she said at the 5:38 time stamp, she ended it after 11 months.
She broke up with Charles after eleven months, not Steve. She said she got caught after five months with Steve.
I understood her motives to make that post-nup offer but she was basically offering a business deal when she thought she was offering love. I knew what was going to happen. She should have insisted her husband sleep in the same room as her for the post-nup to be valid. The more time her husband stayed with her the more he was going to dislike her. If they shared a bed she had a much better chance. He likely would have still accepted the post-nup if they had to share the bedroom and maybe reconciliation would have occurred. She should have just accepted that he doesn't want her and accepted divorce when he asked to sleep in separate rooms.
Marriage is built on loyalty. She shouldn't have cheated in the first place.
I think infidelity should go on record and cheaters should be registered as a cheater/homewrecker. Just like how you can check if your new neighbor is a pedo or convicted felon. That feeling of you can't explain what it is, is most likely lust. Now OP is not the first choice for her husband. His first choice is a 2000 Nissan Skyline R34 GTR! with an all wheel drive/rear wheel drive selector switch drivetrain.
Up until a couple of years ago in Taiwan, it was a crime (minor). You'd get convicted and all that goes with it and it would follow you for the rest of your life. You would have to have the cops catch them in the act. So, it paid to be buddy's with the cops.
“I’ve only been with two men. And I was faithful to them both.”
“Sure, sweetie. SHOW ME THE WHOREFAX!”
He is playing her with false hope to keep most of his fortune.
Well played, sir. 🤣
I would just divorce her !
She does play games with the truth, Jim should paternity test his kids. I don't think this is her first affair ,ill bet there were other guys like Charles in charge. She was too much of a pro for this to be her first you can always notice that by how they handle their affair. Jim played this one well, and will find a good wife someday
"Mental attraction"= she settled.
If you cheat then don't lie and say you love the person you cheated on. Because if you loved him you wouldn't have cheated.
"I swear it to be true."
*Lady, your word is absolutely worthless.*
Response 2 - Let him go you will only cheat with the next bad boy you meet. Don’t stitch him in the divorce.
She can't Trust herself ... How can anyone else ?
Still looking forward to getting married guys??? If so... I look forward to seeing your story on here in the future 🤣😂🤣😂
Even if it was “only” four times, once is enough.
"OOOPS, I willfully screwed around on my husband for 3 years" does not compare to "OOOPS, I accidentally backed into the mailbox."
One is a moral crime and one is a mistake.
The trust took years to build, and she destroyed it - technically instantly the first time she cheated, probably before it even got physically intimate. It's unlikely she could ever get that trust back.