An anarchist friend got me on this podcast after I got out of the Marine Corps and it's been a lot of grim, but great listening. I got gloomy, I got murderous, especially with the Sackler and insulin episodes. What this podcast has done is it taught me a lot of what's happening today has been a long time coming. When the Business Plot failed to make this a Fascist state a hundred years ago, the ultrarich had to go about it differently. We're only seeing their children try it all again. It has happened before, and it is happening again.
😂 Oh shit! 💯 When I read “The Nerd Reich” I laughed so hard coffee came out my nose! Goddamn, it would be so fucking hilarious if it also wasn’t so terrifying for the rest of humanity! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
for some reason, watching Robert analyzing the motivations of a fascist while casually lighting an incense stick was really soothing on this terrible, terrible morning.
Maybe? I think there's an underlying *reflex* which is just kinda how your brain works. You say "X is bad," my brain (and maybe Pete's too) goes "huh, generally I don't like X either, but is it ALWAYS bad? When might it be good?" But, you know, since I often rise to the heights of modest emotional security, I don't DEPLOY that reflex in the same way, and I've learned that there are times to shut the fuck up, and times when it's fun to play those games, and also that you can entertain that reflex without being oppositional: just because my brain is looking for the holes in what you just said doesn't mean that has to be you vs. me, I can also just invite you along with me.
@@trioptimum9027 yeah I think that is where self awareness and setting intent come into the picture. Those using it reflexively haven't made it to the self awareness part either in that moment or perhaps entirely.
So why isnt he telling the maga crowd gow he is openly gay, hmm, Ok maybe its some petty but its good to know you can get under their skin which is, continue do that. Makes them less scary too, despite the scary influence. Time of open no holding back slander attacks?! ok its good to know how fragile that people are ok.
@@mattgilbert7347, I didn't care for that movie (I might have given up on it half way through and not finished it, I don't recall). If ever a movie might prompt me to say "thank you for smoking", it would have been "Good Night and Good Luck". I also remember Jon Stewart talking with Kurt Vonnegut Jr: " You're a humanist, a man of letters; how does someone like you survive the Bush administration"? "Well, smoking helps", came the reply......
@@dboyzetown, there are a bunch of UK-based former-marxists turned libertarians who, after being financially wiped out by a lawsuit (they had published altered photos of the Bosnia-Herzogovina conflict) took seed money from the Koch Brothers, and now actually shill for deregulation of Big Tobacco and other toxic industries. (They even have a RUclips channel, but if I give you more detail, this comment will mysteriously fail to post; I fought that battle a while ago, and lost).
Chūnibyō (中二病) is a Japanese term that describes early teenagers who have delusions of grandeur, want to stand out, and believe they have secret powers or hidden knowledge. It translates to "middle-school second-year syndrome". Thiel ( 17:30 ) is an American term that describes adults who have delusions of grandeur, want to stand out, and believe they have secret powers or hidden knowledge. It translates to "second-semester freshman-year syndrome".
calling the Nerd Reich chunnis is an angle I had not previously considered, and which would be deeply hilarious in its accuracy if they weren't now planning and empowered to kill a bunch of my friends.
Robert I am 100% with you on seasteading; it's fine, we can be giant weird nerds together. (really I just want to live on a sailboat, but close enough)
Thanks, I could really use one right about now! Also, I briefly visited Denmark (and Norway) and found your country to be absolutely delightful! My grandfather came to US in the 20’s from Bornholm, and I hope to visit there someday
@@goodun2974 well it's crumbling here so unfortunately we can't force it on anyone else lol pay my hug forward and build something even better than social democracy. i believe in us! 💜
These rich guys don't understand that their "freedom" lives on top of actual workers. It seems if this is the case, their "libertarianism" is basically just rooted in making sure that stays true.
They absolutely know this. That's why the police and courts rarely punish the rich for their crimes. That's why systems like Palantir exist. It will give the ability to automatically flag people and snuff opposition to the rich before it becomes a threat to them.
Well we don't have to worry about them building Rapture because Thiel is not alienated like Bioshock's 'Andrew Ryan' but we will probably have to worry about them breaking up California into a Disney World for 'technomonarchists'.
The real bloated corpse is still walking around above ground, protected by Secret Service and skin-bronzer. I fear he'll still be with us long after he's relegated to pushing up -daisies- turd-blossoms....
Hate to say it: the Palentir stones were once a tool of good that were unusable because the whereabouts of several were unknown, presumed to be with the enemy. There's a peer-to-peer element to them that allowed Sauran to influence others who might use them, like how he did with Saruman when he appeared to the wizard's hubris and convinced him they could run it all together. Once Aragorn took possession of Saruman's Palentir, he used it to communicate with Sauran, show him Narsil reforged, and give him the impression that the human host is led by the Ring bearer to throw Sauron off Frodo and Sam. Aragorn could do so because he is the heir of Numenor, the lords for which the Palentir were made. Peter probably thinks of himself as a Numenorian: he wants the long lifespan, the heritage of kings, and divine right to rule.
In imagining the Palantiri, I have to wonder if JRR Tolkien was influenced by Nietsche: "when you stare into the abyss, the abyss also stares back into you".
32:18 "I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even five hundred would be pretty nice." - CEO Morgan, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
I mean, Trump doesn't have a Kissinger that we know of, but he also wants to personally dismantle the EPA. I don't know where the point of this was. I'm sad.
Considering Kissinger was really self-centered, callous and had cloak-and-dagger dealings with various people to bypass the official channels, one might argue that Trump has more than a little of Kissinger in himself.
Libertarian seasteading? Sounds like bioshock lol. I did see a news article about ammo vending machines not too long ago too now that I think about it....
@@M_M_ODonnell, sea-steading sounds like an outgrowth from Ayn Rand's Atla Shrugged" ---- perhaps with a touch of "Waterworld" and the Atlantis myth mixed in. It's worth noting that the movie bombed, and Atlantis purportedly sunk back underneath the waves....
@@goodun2974 Yeah, you do a _little_ bit of looking at Randroid seasteading, and you notice that they take for granted that they'll have access to a cheap (because no labor protection regulations and unlimited no-holds-barred union-busting) and exploitable (same) labor force...who of _course_ will _legally_ have equal rights to the owners but will deliberately be prevented from being able to accumulate enough money to escape their subservient status (because to arrange things otherwise would be to infringe upon the capitalist rights of the owners/employers). Of course, "Libertarian" fantasies of "freedom" and "independence" are _always_ built on extreme exploitation, so that's not unique to seasteading.
I'll never truly understand is why, if you're rich enough to turn every day of the rest of your life into a Slaaneshi cult, you instead focus on being a RW s**t. While that's sorta rhetorical, I do know (see the years of this show for narcissistic motivations), it still feels the wrong choice
I'm in a party town and there really are wealthy people who quietly live like that. High class escort availability fluctuates wildly depending on how frisky they're feeling that week. No Inquisition is after them obviously, but they just don't have that burning desire to convert people to their views or gain mass adoration. In other words these openly miserable wealthy types are under the influence of Tzeentch or Genestealers, possibly both. No need to purge the entire planet yet, we can probably get off with a light spritsing and some cleaning house
It's why strongly progressive taxes don't actually slow down the very rich...beyond a tiny fraction of their wealth, it's all about relative rather than absolute, and if they're all paying higher taxes then the rankings and ratios stay the same and so their competitiveness is fed the same way. Meanwhile, the rest of us would keep enough of the product of our work in collective hands for at least an attempt at a soc-dem stepping stone towards something better.
Pausing at "the idea of any of them running a government is a nightmare." Gonna let that one SOAK IN for a bit. Also, I'm about to jump in the shower. Literally.
"Watched too much seaquest [DSV]' me too man. Roy scheider was the goat. So was Ironsides who said "I'll play your captain -but I'm not talking to the fish." Probably going to escape back into scifi for a while despite hating our tech bro cheerleaders. false profits. Babylon 5 feels appropriate for this moment.
52:00 it could be linked to his weird feudal outlook. Feudal lords were expected to provide basic necessities for servants, in lieu of enough salary to survive apart from their lord.
Thank You For Smoking's history gets more and more absurd the more I learn about it, it started at "the guy who wrote this wrote speeches for George W. Bush" and has gone to "Elon Musk and Peter Thiel produced it". I feel Like I'm slowly being subjected to some form of Poe's Law
34:09 In that particular picture, Aubrey DeGray looks like the reincarnation of Grigori Rasputin and I have no idea if that's meant to be intentional or not.
I used to eat a bunch of Papa John's when I was younger, but that's because they did HUGE discounts for students once a week. Or at least out local branch did. I think it's an independent milkshake place now. Much better.
He bought a house in the same neighborhood where i grow up in south Brazil in 2008 just after the financial crash. I had no idea of who was him but i remember in a conversation on the way back from a surfing lesson. I said: I will never understand how the US saved the banks giving 700 bilion dollars but they don't end the starvation in Africa. PS. He didn't learnt how to surf. He never had an attitude to stand up on the surf board! Such a nerd🤓 😅
@@goodun2974 If so he's doing it badly - he's all puffy and flabby and decidedly grotesque. Any young guy charm he may have had is long gone these days.
I saw Thankyou for Smoking and I didn't get a libertarian vibe, although TBF I was 15 at the time, but I saw it as the main character was the villain and you're not supposed to like him. Did Peter Thiel really fund that thinking it made Aaron Eckheart's character look like a hero? To me it felt like Fight Club and American Psycho and Joker and all those other movies where the main character is evil and you're not supposed to like them.
I saw it in my mid 20's, didn't really get any pro-libertarian vibe other than maybe 'ya gotta do what ya gotta do to pay the bills' which really isn't libertarian in my book I sure as hell didn't see Aaron's character as a hero and interpreted the 'victorious' ending as satirical, particularly as his kid reminds him 'people aren't supposed to like you', and this support is enough to pick Aaron out of his slump and reinvigorate him to new, dubious heights maybe we're misremembering it, or maybe Thiel really sees Aaron as an genuine hero in Thank You for Smoking
@@nathanweitzman9531 It might be a case of Thiel falling into the main-character-therefore-hero trap that has adolescent boys and technically adult men thinking that Fight Club and Falling Down and Wal Street are stories about how men should be, because media literacy is harder than it looks apparently.
idk A quick look at the imdb page points to 16 producers and I doubt they individually had much influence on creative direction. I'm just having a hard time seeing where the libertarian angle is coming in. But again, it has been years since I've seen this thing. This libertarian bit could be strictly because the original book was written by Christopher Buckley, which may have been attractive by itself for Thiel.
@@nathanweitzman9531 I meant more that he might've interpreted the movie that way, I don't think Thiel likely had any creative input on the movie. He might've even been sold on funding the movie based on an elevator pitch that may have leaned on libertarian themes that just happened to end up on the cutting room floor "for pacing reasons" or something like that.
I mean, Fight Club, American Psycho and Joker are all also films where certain people miss the point so hard they come out with literally the exact opposite message, so it wouldn't surprise me if you're supposed to hate the protagonist in Thankyou for Smoking and Thiel funded it thinking the protagonist was a hero. Could be wrong, I haven't actually seen it.
He read the case schiller report that predicted the 2008 crash in 05 or 04. The central bank and the government intervened.. So there was no depression
I'd agree on naming the company Palantir, but an open source software named Orthanc(presumably because Palantir was taken) saved my hospital's A&E radiology so who knows if names really mean anything except nerdy references.
Holy shit, I've never heard anyone mention Thank You for Smoking before. I've loved that movie since I was like 16 and there's a ton of big names in it but no one I've told about it had heard of it before.
Ok, first thank you for your work. Second, the election was last night. I have the bolt cutters. Do I need a machitte or will any sword like device do the trick?
Real talk here: If you're a sorta-kinda conman in the field of "life extension," I really feel that you owe it to the world to look as much like a wizard as you can. I understand that some people can't grow wizard beards, but if that's you, maybe try robes, get yourself an orb, or just see what you can do with your eyebrows.
Chomsky calls him "the last liberal US President". He's right. Old-school Liberalism kinda sux but it is better than this dreadful grind towards total emiseration.
You love Waterworld? I guess what somebody once said to me is true, that "there's an ass for every seat". Or perhaps you've merely got a thing for Jeanne Tripphorne? (And no, I'm not calling you an ass, but you're definitely a member of a very small club when it comes to movie choices!)
"what's dying in darkness my democracy" hits harder today than it did yesterday.
He should censor it. Too soon.
😭😭
Mostly because it feels like it was actually celebratory instead of disheartening after what Bezo pulled.
@@SomeThingOrMaybeAnother they need to be worried that people are going to come after them now, sadly.
Knowing Robert's dark sense of humor, I find it very unlikely that he hadn't considered this outcome.
Either Robert knew something we didn't or the universe is having a laugh because that opening hit like a sack of oranges to the groin
Ouch, my groin!
my money is on the universe having a laugh
If you predict doom twice a week for four years, sometimes you'll be right, lol.
Whelp, this should uplift my mood post election.
An anarchist friend got me on this podcast after I got out of the Marine Corps and it's been a lot of grim, but great listening. I got gloomy, I got murderous, especially with the Sackler and insulin episodes. What this podcast has done is it taught me a lot of what's happening today has been a long time coming. When the Business Plot failed to make this a Fascist state a hundred years ago, the ultrarich had to go about it differently. We're only seeing their children try it all again. It has happened before, and it is happening again.
You might say it's happening here.
I know the feeling.
Have you listened to It Could Happen Here yet?
It is happening here and we need more people to stand together against it
@@brianmolina2615 we are not enough, we are the minority and it is not close at all
imma hit pause, and come back to this later, because that "what dying in darkness my democracy" hit a bit too hard
Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, JD Vance. The Founding Fathers of the Nerd Reich, NRx America.
Nick Land fits in there too.
The nrxis
You forgot Blake Masters even though he was a fail son of a fail son
😂 Oh shit! 💯 When I read “The Nerd Reich” I laughed so hard coffee came out my nose! Goddamn, it would be so fucking hilarious if it also wasn’t so terrifying for the rest of humanity! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Ha ha the nerd right
for some reason, watching Robert analyzing the motivations of a fascist while casually lighting an incense stick was really soothing on this terrible, terrible morning.
From what I understand, being a reflexive contrarian is often about control of narrative and a coping mechanism for intellectual/emotional insecurity.
That checks out from personal experience being on both sides of that behavior as well as basic psychology 🙏
Maybe? I think there's an underlying *reflex* which is just kinda how your brain works. You say "X is bad," my brain (and maybe Pete's too) goes "huh, generally I don't like X either, but is it ALWAYS bad? When might it be good?"
But, you know, since I often rise to the heights of modest emotional security, I don't DEPLOY that reflex in the same way, and I've learned that there are times to shut the fuck up, and times when it's fun to play those games, and also that you can entertain that reflex without being oppositional: just because my brain is looking for the holes in what you just said doesn't mean that has to be you vs. me, I can also just invite you along with me.
@@trioptimum9027 yeah I think that is where self awareness and setting intent come into the picture. Those using it reflexively haven't made it to the self awareness part either in that moment or perhaps entirely.
@@trioptimum9027 also “often ris(ing) to the heights of modest emotional security” is an excellent turn of phrase and says an awful lot in 9 words 🫡
Peter Thiel is currently celebrating with Yarvin and Vance.
And Musk "let that sink in" who will be the oversight on federal spending.
The worst people in the world are having the best day of their lives today.
So why isnt he telling the maga crowd gow he is openly gay, hmm,
Ok maybe its some petty but its good to know you can get under their skin which is, continue do that. Makes them less scary too, despite the scary influence. Time of open no holding back slander attacks?! ok its good to know how fragile that people are ok.
"People who kill democracy have names and addresses."
@marocat4749 he's got power and money, fascists only respect power and money, they aren't all religious though.
And Putin, and the CCP and Kim...
Flawless opening boss
Thank you for the SeaQuest shout-out. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who watched that marvelous show.
"Is Jaws on [the show]?" was my favorite question of the episode.
@@dbarker7794 I know, I died.
Man that title hits a lot harder for part 3 than 2 let me tell you...
"What's pumping my CREAMS" is still my personal fave
One pump, one cream
Still a huge fan of "What's boiling my pig anuses" personally.
I wish this didn't have such good timing
I've been wanting to rewatch Thank You For Smoking for years. I had no idea there was a Thiel connection.
I remember liking that film
I'm starting to worry it wasn't a satire
@@mattgilbert7347, I didn't care for that movie (I might have given up on it half way through and not finished it, I don't recall). If ever a movie might prompt me to say "thank you for smoking", it would have been "Good Night and Good Luck". I also remember Jon Stewart talking with Kurt Vonnegut Jr: " You're a humanist, a man of letters; how does someone like you survive the Bush administration"? "Well, smoking helps", came the reply......
@@dboyzetown, there are a bunch of UK-based former-marxists turned libertarians who, after being financially wiped out by a lawsuit (they had published altered photos of the Bosnia-Herzogovina conflict) took seed money from the Koch Brothers, and now actually shill for deregulation of Big Tobacco and other toxic industries. (They even have a RUclips channel, but if I give you more detail, this comment will mysteriously fail to post; I fought that battle a while ago, and lost).
Welp this is timely in the worse way possible.
40:30 the fact that Thiel and Elon funded "Thank You For Smoking" makes soo much sense. I used to love that movie.
Well this is hitting differently today
Chūnibyō (中二病) is a Japanese term that describes early teenagers who have delusions of grandeur, want to stand out, and believe they have secret powers or hidden knowledge. It translates to "middle-school second-year syndrome".
Thiel ( 17:30 ) is an American term that describes adults who have delusions of grandeur, want to stand out, and believe they have secret powers or hidden knowledge. It translates to "second-semester freshman-year syndrome".
Atleast they have some sweet ass Jojo poses and hero/villain monologues.
calling the Nerd Reich chunnis is an angle I had not previously considered, and which would be deeply hilarious in its accuracy if they weren't now planning and empowered to kill a bunch of my friends.
=sophomoric
@@pmfg875 Yes, and good thinking, but technically no. You're off by a few months 😄.
Robert I am 100% with you on seasteading; it's fine, we can be giant weird nerds together. (really I just want to live on a sailboat, but close enough)
hugs to all the USians, from Denmark 💖🫂
Thanks, I actually really appreciate that.
Hugs are nice, but America could really use an infusion of Danish democratic-socialism!
Thanks, I could really use one right about now!
Also, I briefly visited Denmark (and Norway) and found your country to be absolutely delightful! My grandfather came to US in the 20’s from Bornholm, and I hope to visit there someday
@@goodun2974 well it's crumbling here so unfortunately we can't force it on anyone else lol
pay my hug forward and build something even better than social democracy. i believe in us! 💜
@@ltraina3353 bornholm is beautiful and charming, and also has an interesting history. i hope you get to see it soon 💜
These rich guys don't understand that their "freedom" lives on top of actual workers. It seems if this is the case, their "libertarianism" is basically just rooted in making sure that stays true.
They absolutely know this. That's why the police and courts rarely punish the rich for their crimes. That's why systems like Palantir exist. It will give the ability to automatically flag people and snuff opposition to the rich before it becomes a threat to them.
On the contrary, they completely understand that. That's why they do everything they can to prevent workers from having real decision-making power
Libertarianism is entitlement wrapped in a selfishness that says I don't have to take responsibility for the external consequences of my actions.
the seaQuest / John C Lilly / seasteading tangent absolutely obliterated me
This is an amazing 4-part topic for Robert getting to explain pop culture things to somebody else for once. What a treat XD
Robert will have enough material to make shows for the next 15 years.
Unfortunately we may not survive that Long...
@20:43 I love how Sophie is 'Oh no, no f ing emails on top of everything else I have to do, f off with your emails. but I wont lie either'. Legend
20:50 dolphins are absolutely the libertarians of the aquatic mammals
Well we don't have to worry about them building Rapture because Thiel is not alienated like Bioshock's 'Andrew Ryan' but we will probably have to worry about them breaking up California into a Disney World for 'technomonarchists'.
Grody is timeless
What have we done...
Welp, that grave finally got dug yesterday, and democracy's bloated corpse just got kicked into it.
The real bloated corpse is still walking around above ground, protected by Secret Service and skin-bronzer. I fear he'll still be with us long after he's relegated to pushing up -daisies- turd-blossoms....
Hate to say it: the Palentir stones were once a tool of good that were unusable because the whereabouts of several were unknown, presumed to be with the enemy. There's a peer-to-peer element to them that allowed Sauran to influence others who might use them, like how he did with Saruman when he appeared to the wizard's hubris and convinced him they could run it all together. Once Aragorn took possession of Saruman's Palentir, he used it to communicate with Sauran, show him Narsil reforged, and give him the impression that the human host is led by the Ring bearer to throw Sauron off Frodo and Sam. Aragorn could do so because he is the heir of Numenor, the lords for which the Palentir were made.
Peter probably thinks of himself as a Numenorian: he wants the long lifespan, the heritage of kings, and divine right to rule.
In imagining the Palantiri, I have to wonder if JRR Tolkien was influenced by Nietsche: "when you stare into the abyss, the abyss also stares back into you".
32:18 "I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even five hundred would be pretty nice."
- CEO Morgan, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
She darkness on my democracy til I die
Streetlight Manifesto!
Seaquest DSV was an outstanding part of my childhood. It also starred the kid from The Neverending Story movies.
I mean, Trump doesn't have a Kissinger that we know of, but he also wants to personally dismantle the EPA. I don't know where the point of this was. I'm sad.
Trump is no Nixon. And Kissinger transcends any single Presidency.
@@macrosense Yeah, Kissinger even managed to advise previous Trump presidency.
Considering Kissinger was really self-centered, callous and had cloak-and-dagger dealings with various people to bypass the official channels, one might argue that Trump has more than a little of Kissinger in himself.
@@GuerillaBunny Check out Roy Cohn too, that man personally molded Trump when he was young
Dang, well this was prescient
Libertarian seasteading? Sounds like bioshock lol. I did see a news article about ammo vending machines not too long ago too now that I think about it....
Libertarian-socialist seasteading might actually make sense...not composed entirely of people looking for the first opportunity to eat each other
@@M_M_ODonnell, sea-steading sounds like an outgrowth from Ayn Rand's Atla Shrugged" ---- perhaps with a touch of "Waterworld" and the Atlantis myth mixed in. It's worth noting that the movie bombed, and Atlantis purportedly sunk back underneath the waves....
@@goodun2974 Yeah, you do a _little_ bit of looking at Randroid seasteading, and you notice that they take for granted that they'll have access to a cheap (because no labor protection regulations and unlimited no-holds-barred union-busting) and exploitable (same) labor force...who of _course_ will _legally_ have equal rights to the owners but will deliberately be prevented from being able to accumulate enough money to escape their subservient status (because to arrange things otherwise would be to infringe upon the capitalist rights of the owners/employers).
Of course, "Libertarian" fantasies of "freedom" and "independence" are _always_ built on extreme exploitation, so that's not unique to seasteading.
Ok, this somehow made my day better. Thank you.
Just gonna skip this episode for a while, I'll let you know when I ready to listen.
I know how you feel.
Welp. Appropriate opening, I guess.
I don't think I can handle this episode right now. Just leaving a comment for the algo.
I'll never truly understand is why, if you're rich enough to turn every day of the rest of your life into a Slaaneshi cult, you instead focus on being a RW s**t.
While that's sorta rhetorical, I do know (see the years of this show for narcissistic motivations), it still feels the wrong choice
I'm in a party town and there really are wealthy people who quietly live like that. High class escort availability fluctuates wildly depending on how frisky they're feeling that week.
No Inquisition is after them obviously, but they just don't have that burning desire to convert people to their views or gain mass adoration.
In other words these openly miserable wealthy types are under the influence of Tzeentch or Genestealers, possibly both. No need to purge the entire planet yet, we can probably get off with a light spritsing and some cleaning house
It's why strongly progressive taxes don't actually slow down the very rich...beyond a tiny fraction of their wealth, it's all about relative rather than absolute, and if they're all paying higher taxes then the rankings and ratios stay the same and so their competitiveness is fed the same way. Meanwhile, the rest of us would keep enough of the product of our work in collective hands for at least an attempt at a soc-dem stepping stone towards something better.
@@cGoryeo The whole obsessive breeding thing definitely points to genestealers.
I hate everything 💀
Pausing at "the idea of any of them running a government is a nightmare." Gonna let that one SOAK IN for a bit. Also, I'm about to jump in the shower. Literally.
Best intro for the worst case scenario.
robert is a fan of ska, very based
I wish I had it in me to listen
"Watched too much seaquest [DSV]' me too man. Roy scheider was the goat. So was Ironsides who said "I'll play your captain -but I'm not talking to the fish."
Probably going to escape back into scifi for a while despite hating our tech bro cheerleaders. false profits. Babylon 5 feels appropriate for this moment.
i'm like 30 minutes in and i feel like ray kurzweil is going to get brought up at some point here
I thought he was going to be featured in episode 3
Timing!
Wait... did Captain America: Winter Soldier use Palinteer as inspiration for the plot launched by the comic Nazis who infiltrated the government?
Do Murray Rothbard.
26:25 Speaking of Nova, wen William Burroughs?
"Armageddon? Armageddon? Armageddon outta here, me!" I love William Burroughs.
Nathan Bridger and Darwin are definitely an OTP. 😆
52:00 it could be linked to his weird feudal outlook. Feudal lords were expected to provide basic necessities for servants, in lieu of enough salary to survive apart from their lord.
The moral of this channel is that karma doesn't exist
Thank You For Smoking's history gets more and more absurd the more I learn about it, it started at "the guy who wrote this wrote speeches for George W. Bush" and has gone to "Elon Musk and Peter Thiel produced it". I feel Like I'm slowly being subjected to some form of Poe's Law
34:09 In that particular picture, Aubrey DeGray looks like the reincarnation of Grigori Rasputin and I have no idea if that's meant to be intentional or not.
I thought Rasputin too. Didn't think of the intentional thing, but I can see that. He's into longevity stuff. Reincarnation?
I used to eat a bunch of Papa John's when I was younger, but that's because they did HUGE discounts for students once a week. Or at least out local branch did. I think it's an independent milkshake place now. Much better.
Well now with video I can see Robert's streetlight hoodie and know that he's cool...
Too cool 🤨
This IGOR and Palantir software sounds like the idea-compilation software in Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum".
omg I love the guest on this series ❤
Timely!
ofc robert likes streetlight manifesto lol
He bought a house in the same neighborhood where i grow up in south Brazil in 2008 just after the financial crash. I had no idea of who was him but i remember in a conversation on the way back from a surfing lesson. I said: I will never understand how the US saved the banks giving 700 bilion dollars but they don't end the starvation in Africa.
PS. He didn't learnt how to surf. He never had an attitude to stand up on the surf board! Such a nerd🤓 😅
sick Streetlight Manifesto hoodie
Looks like an open plain black hoodie over a sick Streetlight Manifesto t-shirt.
wait i've seen elon musk, that does not look like a body that's being maintained by experts to me
Musk wants to die on mars, his idea of immortality is transferring your consciousness to a computer
Musk only had gender affirming care like hair transplant
Musk is "his own expert" and does his own maintenance.....😖
@@goodun2974 Musk has gotten visibly fat and flabby.
@@goodun2974 If so he's doing it badly - he's all puffy and flabby and decidedly grotesque. Any young guy charm he may have had is long gone these days.
I saw Thankyou for Smoking and I didn't get a libertarian vibe, although TBF I was 15 at the time, but I saw it as the main character was the villain and you're not supposed to like him. Did Peter Thiel really fund that thinking it made Aaron Eckheart's character look like a hero? To me it felt like Fight Club and American Psycho and Joker and all those other movies where the main character is evil and you're not supposed to like them.
I saw it in my mid 20's, didn't really get any pro-libertarian vibe other than maybe 'ya gotta do what ya gotta do to pay the bills' which really isn't libertarian in my book
I sure as hell didn't see Aaron's character as a hero and interpreted the 'victorious' ending as satirical, particularly as his kid reminds him 'people aren't supposed to like you', and this support is enough to pick Aaron out of his slump and reinvigorate him to new, dubious heights
maybe we're misremembering it, or maybe Thiel really sees Aaron as an genuine hero in Thank You for Smoking
@@nathanweitzman9531 It might be a case of Thiel falling into the main-character-therefore-hero trap that has adolescent boys and technically adult men thinking that Fight Club and Falling Down and Wal Street are stories about how men should be, because media literacy is harder than it looks apparently.
idk
A quick look at the imdb page points to 16 producers and I doubt they individually had much influence on creative direction. I'm just having a hard time seeing where the libertarian angle is coming in. But again, it has been years since I've seen this thing.
This libertarian bit could be strictly because the original book was written by Christopher Buckley, which may have been attractive by itself for Thiel.
@@nathanweitzman9531 I meant more that he might've interpreted the movie that way, I don't think Thiel likely had any creative input on the movie. He might've even been sold on funding the movie based on an elevator pitch that may have leaned on libertarian themes that just happened to end up on the cutting room floor "for pacing reasons" or something like that.
I mean, Fight Club, American Psycho and Joker are all also films where certain people miss the point so hard they come out with literally the exact opposite message, so it wouldn't surprise me if you're supposed to hate the protagonist in Thankyou for Smoking and Thiel funded it thinking the protagonist was a hero. Could be wrong, I haven't actually seen it.
My experience has been that the only people that get upset about implied paranoia are people with actual paranoia issues.
In the 60s they used to say that a paranoiac is someone who knows what's really going on......
seaQuest is the GOAT. Daggers and Darwin for the win!
Seasteading is a great idea! Rwnjs literally getting into the sea! Can we bring this back?
Incredibly called shot on the title
Streetlight Manifesto from my hometown! Court Tavern originals.
He read the case schiller report that predicted the 2008 crash in 05 or 04. The central bank and the government intervened.. So there was no depression
Tim Robinson as SNL Peter Thiel?... it's the eyes
80's Goin 90's thing. I'm Brazilian and was a kid but my cousins uses since them 😅
SEAQUEST!!!
Dear American, You should watch this in incognito mode.
I'd agree on naming the company Palantir, but an open source software named Orthanc(presumably because Palantir was taken) saved my hospital's A&E radiology so who knows if names really mean anything except nerdy references.
Mr Evans I don't feel so good...
...he probably won't get that reference will he Sophie?
Holy shit, I've never heard anyone mention Thank You for Smoking before. I've loved that movie since I was like 16 and there's a ton of big names in it but no one I've told about it had heard of it before.
Ok, first thank you for your work. Second, the election was last night. I have the bolt cutters. Do I need a machitte or will any sword like device do the trick?
Aubrey de Grey? Nah, that's Saruman the Alt-White.
Real talk here: If you're a sorta-kinda conman in the field of "life extension," I really feel that you owe it to the world to look as much like a wizard as you can. I understand that some people can't grow wizard beards, but if that's you, maybe try robes, get yourself an orb, or just see what you can do with your eyebrows.
One didn’t have to be a genius to see the 2008 crash coming .
The guys from "The Big Short" certainly saw it coming....
I would happily take Nixon at this point…
Chomsky calls him "the last liberal US President". He's right.
Old-school Liberalism kinda sux but it is better than this dreadful grind towards total emiseration.
I agree living on the sea is cool but ive also seen alien 4 multiple time
P Thizzy 😂
Moo Deng is the baby dwarf hippo Lol.
RIP Jonathan Brandis 🙏🥲🐬🐬🐬
Hey, you guys need to be careful now. These people are 100% going to make a list and work their way down it.
As The Hitch used to say: Bring It On
Robert Evans, confirmed Pizza Hut stuffed crust enjoyer and based Papa Johns detractor
fwiw, here in nz we were definitely still using "grody" in the 2000s
Libertarian Police State is a great band name.
You've all got some serious stamina.
I am a seasteading advocate but only because I love the movie waterworld
You love Waterworld? I guess what somebody once said to me is true, that "there's an ass for every seat". Or perhaps you've merely got a thing for Jeanne Tripphorne? (And no, I'm not calling you an ass, but you're definitely a member of a very small club when it comes to movie choices!)
grody is totally an 80's thing!
The entire first two minutes are almost too timely to be coincidental. Robert, what did you know, man…