One problem is legacy media is dying, Boomers watch soaps and some gen X but beyond that people aren't watching conventional TV and Coronation street is not able to compete with Netflix or capture the interest of a young audience. Watched Brassic recently and it shits all over any soap and it's full of ex soap actors, Joseph Gilgun ( Who helped write it) Debbie Rush, Michelle Keegan, Bhavna Limbachia, Jude Riordan (Notice he goes absent on Corrie for months at a time), Greg Wood, John Weaver and Alex Carter. Even the Emmerdale police car is in Brassic. The soaps are not competitive and the inserting of woke nonsense doesn't help it's case it needs to be funnier and more edgy if it wants to get back some traction.
After 65 years its time to call time on this show.. Tony Warren the creator would spin in his grave to see how bad the writing and performances are now.
Here in New Zealand I have watched Coro since about 1961 when I was a young girl who had just started school. I still watch it but really that is because it is my one and only life long show I ever had, and because my late parents watched it. These days ----- too many characters, poor storylines including too much of the police, murders, sexual stuff, and some of the casting is terrible. Bethany looks older than her mum! A 70+ year old person who has never shown any inclination before suddenly wants to go to university! A normative hetrosexual woman suddenly switches to being lesbian! A man who is supposed to be a school teacher is never at school and carries on like he is far too silly for a teacher! And there are soooo many pubs, restaurants, cafes and other food / drink outlets mainly empty except for Coro personalities! On the whole the actors are OK. Some are very good. But fewer of them living and working around one small street, and more realistic day to day issues PLEASE! This "older audience" referred to on the video is people like me who are hanging by a thread with Coro these days.
It now feels like a new show using an old show's name. The focus is on prison/hospital/crime etc and not the lives of working class people of Coronation Street.
@@leejones8582 Apart from Ken and Rita and the street itself, you'd think it was a totally different show to watching a 1960s or 1970s episode. The original premise of Corrie has been abandoned.
It’s not so much the characters they need to axe. There’s some good characters there that don’t get enough material. It’s the writers and producer that need to change. Stop making it so depressing. Stop with the woke political stuff and highlighting everything that goes on in the news. Bring back a good balance between humour and drama it always used to have.
@@SN4KEBYTE More like most original comment goes to you hahaha go cry at the corner snowflake I didn’t know it was your girl I hooked up with last night.
Exactly gotta fill the diversity quota. They add nothing to the show. But I thought it didn’t matter what what race/ colour someone is? 🤔 What a bonkers world we live in
@ Yes if they can act. In which case none of the Bailey family can. They got rid of great characters like Norris and less. and I know a lot of the old great actors that have passed on. But the show still not what it used to be when families would gather around the sofa to sit together and watch it. I’d say the show was slowly starting to slip apart around 2005-2010 it’s still have a little bit of sparkle right up till 2018. Then they just decided to go super woke with their storylines and characters.
@@Tad1945 They didn't 'get rid' of Norris. The actor who played Norris, Malcolm Hebden, was very ill and although he came back for a short time as a a test of his health he ultimately decided he wasn't up to a full return, and so they then wrote Norris out permanently and decided it was best to have the character pass away.
It’s not dying, it’s just going through a much needed change. And change always scares some people. Business that don’t make changes when needed always fold, Debenhams, Woolworths etc. the changes Corrie is embracing will benefit it long term and I hope there are more
@@joemurphy2177 If that is what they are currently seeking to attract they are not exactly going about it very well. I take the point that fewer people watch TV these days, however.
@@Cheesecake8719I’m same age and I couldn’t disagree more. Are you not bored of the same characters just crying in every single scene? Or every episode being depressing or forcing ‘the message’ down your throat? Lauren used to be a witty character, very dry and sarcastic. Now look at her. Just crying every time she’s on screen. I get her situation is bleak but it’s depressing and you always know what you’re gonna get whenever she’s in the show now. It’s so boring. Dee Dee getting more screen time than anyone else over the last year and she’s one of the most predictable and bland characters I’ve ever seen. Good actress, dreadful character
To be honest I don’t think it’s just Corrie I think it’s the whole of ITV that’s in a crisis look at the state of the channel it’s the same stuff day in day out for example Britain got Talent it’s now going to be running for 3 months they literally have nothing every writer is going to the BBC with their stuff
Eastenders has bucket loads of money though. The licence fee is a gift that keeps on giving. Unlike Corry that relies on advertising. And that drying up as audiences are becoming fragmented
The problem is soaps can't do storylines which would cause controversy. If Coronation Street was to do a realistic controversial storyline like. If Karla was having a relationship with a 15 year old girl instead of the police woman, if Nicky was sexting with a teenage boy or if a parent left their children at home and the house ought fire and the children died those would be similar happening in the news recently. The problem with that is Argos would end their sponsorship, SpecSavers would probably also stop sponsoring Emmerdale too, advertisers would pull their adverts and people will be protesting outside ITV's offices.
@@Tad1945 As if! A couple of years ago a character who raised concerns about uncontrolled illegal immigration was branded as an enemy of society and a brainwashed Nazi !
Why?? Corrie is a soap, not an educational tool. I hate the gangster route it has gone down. I long for the days of Mavis wittering in the cabin and Alf pinching his pennies.
The problem with TV now is it's run by TV people who think they are business people. They don't think of any secondary incomes. If you look at what they have cut in recent decades they have closed the London Studios which they got additional income renting them to other production companies and channels, office space and editing facilities. They closed their children's production which made more money via merchandise and international sales than on ITV. The revival of Thunderbirds was sold to a lot of countries and there was a lot of merchandise. They ended any regional programmes that weren't local news which meant less advertising by local businesses.
Ken been there since day one bill who plays him in his 80s lot of them in pension age . The new story lines are for the The one who now mum and dad who grown up on streets and their children so can't say it dieing it just very old TV shows one of oldest show in the world.
Coronation Street has been dead for years. What once made it the top soap opera for decades has long since gone. Corrie built its good will with the nation with simplistic relatable working class characters with the famous northern wit. Unfortunately those characters are long gone and with the charm it carried. For a long time now Corrie has just become another ITV 'let's make another dark miserable drama' in a soap opera setting. The characters lack any attachment to the viewer and are completely interchangeable and truthfully just not that good. They rely far too heavy now on boring youngsters with their ten a penny attention seeking dramatics which is hardly the warmth viewer's felt by watching loveable and memorable characters like the Ogdens, the Duckworths, Bet Lynch, Mrs Walker, Elsie Tanner and the dynamic of the community back in its golden era. Personally I think it should be put out to pasture. At least fellow ITV soap Emmerdale has managed to retain characters that viewers are interested in or entertained by.
Corrie is in a much better place than Hollyoaks I would say, as ITV is still highly profitable. That being said, if ratings continue to decline, it may become increasingly difficult to justify. So as an interim measure it looks like cost cutting with a cast cull to reflect lower viewing figures. Hopefully the new exec producer can inject some like in to Corrie - we need some strong new characters, a new family etc.
Bet leaving, the Brian Park era with the introduction of the Battersbys and the ridiculous cult of Nirab storyline, (even Barbara Knox said something along the lines of it was turning into a Whitehall farce around that time), the increased number of episodes, Bet’s ill fated return, the far fetched Richard Hillman storyline and other sensationalised ones since have all contributed to its decline I think. Most of the greats we grew up watching who made the show the success it became are no longer with us. Still some great characters and decent actors- the likes of Chris Gascoyne and Jane Danson are always good to watch, just let down by poor and improbable stories much of the time. Audrey’s son Stephen a serial killer, for crying out loud. I know the show has to evolve to stay successful but it’s gone like one of the trashy American soaps now, all bed hopping and murders, God knows what Tony Warren would think. It’s going the same way Brookside did before it was axed. I don’t think you’d rush home to watch it or record it if you were out nowadays. Charlie Lawson said in that interview the cast is too big now, and why have they expanded the set.
I have to say, I agree with this comment but I also think you have something here with this channel. Might it help if you had some notes in front of you just so you're a little more focused in your delivery? Not sure if you already do this, but it could make the world of difference. :) I am really enjoying the content though! :)
Cheers for the kind words. I'd like to believe I'm much better than this video suggests. I've been on the ball with content and haven't really given myself much of a break since Christmas! I will be working harder to improve but hopefully a couple days rest will get me back to where I aim to be delivery wise.
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You’re so deluded it has been absolutely terrible since they got rid of Becky in 2012 you spoon
Coronation street went down the pan from about 1997 onwards when the Battersbys came into it, from then on, one sensational story after another.
One problem is legacy media is dying, Boomers watch soaps and some gen X but beyond that people aren't watching conventional TV and Coronation street is not able to compete with Netflix or capture the interest of a young audience. Watched Brassic recently and it shits all over any soap and it's full of ex soap actors, Joseph Gilgun ( Who helped write it) Debbie Rush, Michelle Keegan, Bhavna Limbachia, Jude Riordan (Notice he goes absent on Corrie for months at a time), Greg Wood, John Weaver and Alex Carter. Even the Emmerdale police car is in Brassic. The soaps are not competitive and the inserting of woke nonsense doesn't help it's case it needs to be funnier and more edgy if it wants to get back some traction.
It died since Jack Duckworth died
Sean is a great character when they write him good stories. He has been really good lately
I do agree. He spent years being miserable but in the last few years they've given him purpose and he's proven capable
There used to be a lot lot more comedy re Jack & Vera, Hilda & Stan. It’s got too grim, serious & depressing
Agreed i can't stand to watch it now as it leaves me feeling depressed and bored 🥱
After 65 years its time to call time on this show.. Tony Warren the creator would spin in his grave to see how bad the writing and performances are now.
I think it can be saved it needs new writers and the clear out is happening and I am sick of the sensationalist storylines
Here in New Zealand I have watched Coro since about 1961 when I was a young girl who had just started school. I still watch it but really that is because it is my one and only life long show I ever had, and because my late parents watched it. These days ----- too many characters, poor storylines including too much of the police, murders, sexual stuff, and some of the casting is terrible.
Bethany looks older than her mum! A 70+ year old person who has never shown any inclination before suddenly wants to go to university! A normative hetrosexual woman suddenly switches to being lesbian! A man who is supposed to be a school teacher is never at school and carries on like he is far too silly for a teacher! And there are soooo many pubs, restaurants, cafes and other food / drink outlets mainly empty except for Coro personalities!
On the whole the actors are OK. Some are very good. But fewer of them living and working around one small street, and more realistic day to day issues PLEASE! This "older audience" referred to on the video is people like me who are hanging by a thread with Coro these days.
It now feels like a new show using an old show's name. The focus is on prison/hospital/crime etc and not the lives of working class people of Coronation Street.
@Uksoapfan sick of the hospital and police scenes it ain't the Bill or Casualty
@@leejones8582 Apart from Ken and Rita and the street itself, you'd think it was a totally different show to watching a 1960s or 1970s episode. The original premise of Corrie has been abandoned.
@Uksoapfan very true its lost its humour and its indentity
@@leejones8582 For me the decline began in mid 1997 but the true rot set in around 2010. The 1990s was the last decade of classic Corrie.
Charlie Lawson who played Jim McDonald in the show has said in interviews he doesn't think it will last another 10 year's 🙂🙂
:(
Charlie Lawson appears to make a living out of criticizing Coronation Street.
@@Ross.Cavendishat least it's an honest living. It's better than coming back as Jim McDonald and revealing that he's trans.
@@clivet3252😂
@@Ross.Cavendish Good 👍.
It’s not so much the characters they need to axe. There’s some good characters there that don’t get enough material. It’s the writers and producer that need to change. Stop making it so depressing. Stop with the woke political stuff and highlighting everything that goes on in the news. Bring back a good balance between humour and drama it always used to have.
Very true
@ZachDyer-s1s I guess I just want things to be as they were in the 90s/early 00s, but it’s probably wishful thinking!
@@teleaddict23 I want that too I want the comedy to come back to the show
@ZachDyer-s1sand the virgin of the year award goes to…
YOU!
@@SN4KEBYTE More like most original comment goes to you hahaha go cry at the corner snowflake I didn’t know it was your girl I hooked up with last night.
The Bailey family can’t act simple. And they were put in there for diverse reasons. Nothing more nothing less.
Exactly gotta fill the diversity quota. They add nothing to the show. But I thought it didn’t matter what what race/ colour someone is? 🤔
What a bonkers world we live in
@
Yes if they can act. In which case none of the Bailey family can. They got rid of great characters like Norris and less. and I know a lot of the old great actors that have passed on.
But the show still not what it used to be when families would gather around the sofa to sit together and watch it.
I’d say the show was slowly starting to slip apart around 2005-2010 it’s still have a little bit of sparkle right up till 2018. Then they just decided to go super woke with their storylines and characters.
@@Tad1945 They didn't 'get rid' of Norris. The actor who played Norris, Malcolm Hebden, was very ill and although he came back for a short time as a a test of his health he ultimately decided he wasn't up to a full return, and so they then wrote Norris out permanently and decided it was best to have the character pass away.
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Well you know I what mean the shows become total horse shit. Since the legendary character and actors have moved on or passed away.
Lorna Laidlaw is a solid actress, but she was hardly ever used
If Corrie did not have the long legacy
it would have been axed
years ago with these ratings.
Very true
It’s not dying, it’s just going through a much needed change. And change always scares some people. Business that don’t make changes when needed always fold, Debenhams, Woolworths etc. the changes Corrie is embracing will benefit it long term and I hope there are more
The problem is they are trying desperately to attract the younger audiences but we all know no one under the age of 50 is watching TV now
@ I’m 25 and have been watching since I was 8
@@joemurphy2177 If that is what they are currently seeking to attract they are not exactly going about it very well. I take the point that fewer people watch TV these days, however.
@joemurphy2177 If they wanna watch it they are probably watching it on ITVX
@@Cheesecake8719I’m same age and I couldn’t disagree more. Are you not bored of the same characters just crying in every single scene? Or every episode being depressing or forcing ‘the message’ down your throat? Lauren used to be a witty character, very dry and sarcastic. Now look at her. Just crying every time she’s on screen. I get her situation is bleak but it’s depressing and you always know what you’re gonna get whenever she’s in the show now. It’s so boring. Dee Dee getting more screen time than anyone else over the last year and she’s one of the most predictable and bland characters I’ve ever seen. Good actress, dreadful character
Yesterday's episode was one of the worst I have seen in quite a while,the prison scenes were so bad I felt sorry for the actors
To be honest I don’t think it’s just Corrie I think it’s the whole of ITV that’s in a crisis look at the state of the channel it’s the same stuff day in day out for example Britain got Talent it’s now going to be running for 3 months they literally have nothing every writer is going to the BBC with their stuff
And yet despite everything it still rates higher than EastEnders
Is shocking that Eastenders is good atm.
Eastenders has bucket loads of money though. The licence fee is a gift that keeps on giving. Unlike Corry that relies on advertising. And that drying up as audiences are becoming fragmented
The problem is soaps can't do storylines which would cause controversy. If Coronation Street was to do a realistic controversial storyline like. If Karla was having a relationship with a 15 year old girl instead of the police woman, if Nicky was sexting with a teenage boy or if a parent left their children at home and the house ought fire and the children died those would be similar happening in the news recently. The problem with that is Argos would end their sponsorship, SpecSavers would probably also stop sponsoring Emmerdale too, advertisers would pull their adverts and people will be protesting outside ITV's offices.
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Or do a storyline on grooming gangs. But I suppose that would be hitting to close to reality.
@@Tad1945 The one I mentioned about Karla was a reference to Philip Scofield and the sexting was reference to Huw Edwards.
@@Tad1945 As if! A couple of years ago a character who raised concerns about uncontrolled illegal immigration was branded as an enemy of society and a brainwashed Nazi !
Why?? Corrie is a soap, not an educational tool. I hate the gangster route it has gone down. I long for the days of Mavis wittering in the cabin and Alf pinching his pennies.
Fed up of all the illnesses and dying they need some better stories
The problem with TV now is it's run by TV people who think they are business people. They don't think of any secondary incomes. If you look at what they have cut in recent decades they have closed the London Studios which they got additional income renting them to other production companies and channels, office space and editing facilities. They closed their children's production which made more money via merchandise and international sales than on ITV. The revival of Thunderbirds was sold to a lot of countries and there was a lot of merchandise. They ended any regional programmes that weren't local news which meant less advertising by local businesses.
Hope it’s not dying hopefully something will change to make it seem like it’s thriving again
Blame the script writers
Ash, the channel is really starting to take off,
congrats.
Cheers Gavin. Been a lot of hardwork and a lot of luck over Christmas. Me and Piggy couldn't have done it without our loyal subs like you!
Ken been there since day one bill who plays him in his 80s lot of them in pension age .
The new story lines are for the The one who now mum and dad who grown up on streets and their children so can't say it dieing it just very old TV shows one of oldest show in the world.
Coronation Street has been dead for years. What once made it the top soap opera for decades has long since gone.
Corrie built its good will with the nation with simplistic relatable working class characters with the famous northern wit.
Unfortunately those characters are long gone and with the charm it carried. For a long time now Corrie has just become another ITV 'let's make another dark miserable drama' in a soap opera setting.
The characters lack any attachment to the viewer and are completely interchangeable and truthfully just not that good.
They rely far too heavy now on boring youngsters with their ten a penny attention seeking dramatics which is hardly the warmth viewer's felt by watching loveable and memorable characters like the Ogdens, the Duckworths, Bet Lynch, Mrs Walker, Elsie Tanner and the dynamic of the community back in its golden era.
Personally I think it should be put out to pasture. At least fellow ITV soap Emmerdale has managed to retain characters that viewers are interested in or entertained by.
Corrie is in a much better place than Hollyoaks
I would say, as ITV is still highly profitable.
That being said, if ratings continue to decline,
it may become increasingly difficult to justify.
So as an interim measure it looks like cost cutting
with a cast cull to reflect lower viewing figures.
Hopefully the new exec producer can inject some
like in to Corrie - we need some strong new characters,
a new family etc.
A new family is coming in February, and we are getting more older characters returning
The exodus continues the actor who plays Max has quit has come up on the news
Jesus. Well that one is being recorded tomorrow
@WatchingWalford Cant keep up with these exits
Thought Michael la Val
Kevin Webster character is also leaving
i don't know about dying but it has lost the humour it once had, plus so many on the show now cant act.
Bet leaving, the Brian Park era with the introduction of the Battersbys and the ridiculous cult of Nirab storyline, (even Barbara Knox said something along the lines of it was turning into a Whitehall farce around that time), the increased number of episodes, Bet’s ill fated return, the far fetched Richard Hillman storyline and other sensationalised ones since have all contributed to its decline I think. Most of the greats we grew up watching who made the show the success it became are no longer with us. Still some great characters and decent actors- the likes of Chris Gascoyne and Jane Danson are always good to watch, just let down by poor and improbable stories much of the time. Audrey’s son Stephen a serial killer, for crying out loud. I know the show has to evolve to stay successful but it’s gone like one of the trashy American soaps now, all bed hopping and murders, God knows what Tony Warren would think. It’s going the same way Brookside did before it was axed. I don’t think you’d rush home to watch it or record it if you were out nowadays. Charlie Lawson said in that interview the cast is too big now, and why have they expanded the set.
The Richard Hillman storyline is a classic very well plotted and gripping
@ It did get a bit silly and drawn out in parts though. Sue Nicholls was very good in it, and Helen and Brian with the classic two hander.
Luca and Maureen worst loss sadly xx
Maureen Lipman is on extended leave but sounds like she will return
I don't even no what streaming is in great detail
I have not had a tv in 11 years good channel you got here i think Corrie is dead
Gave up after 5 minutes,you're repeating yourself continually and in a really boring way
He'd make a good Corrie writer then, no?
I have to say, I agree with this comment but I also think you have something here with this channel.
Might it help if you had some notes in front of you just so you're a little more focused in your delivery? Not sure if you already do this, but it could make the world of difference. :)
I am really enjoying the content though! :)
Cheers for the kind words. I'd like to believe I'm much better than this video suggests. I've been on the ball with content and haven't really given myself much of a break since Christmas! I will be working harder to improve but hopefully a couple days rest will get me back to where I aim to be delivery wise.