It's interesting how most of the top players in VGC Masters use non-standard options. No Mega Kanga on either team, which is surprising but it's the same as I saw in Australian Nationals. While you see it in all the Jr and Sr finals, the Masters seem to want to try something different. Se Jun Park will go down in history as the guy who became world champion with a Pachirisu.
It's because the meta is ridiculously predictable. The moment you throw something that's not regularly seen in there (such as the Pachirisu) people don't know how to react to it and instead of predicting exactly what it's going to do instead have to guess what it might do.
Yeah, that's the main advantage of doing things like this. I once had a match where my opponent looked at my team and said "never seen a Raichu before", and at that I knew I basically had an auto-win. You have to make sure your rogue choice actually matches up decently in the metagame though. This guy clearly knew what he was doing with Pachirisu, but if you don't you could end up handicapping yourself. Something I'd like to see more people try is unconventional sets on standard Pokemon. If anything, this can actually thow people off even more than underused Pokemon can. Just make sure the set is actually good. I once saw someone use Special Scizor just to "be original". It worked out how you'd expect. Of course the problem is if your unconventional idea starts winning things and getting attention, it ceases to be unpredictable anymore. I'm pretty sure Special Aegislash started out like this, now it's the standard.
BigKlingy Choice Band Aegislash is hilarious. Physical attackers swap out expecting King's Shield and end up eating a banded Pursuit. Anyway my favorite example I've seen of this was a RUclipsr who plays a lot of NU having someone leave in a Greninja against a Scarfed Dedenne.
Pachi : i- i can explain Garch : I made them faint, but you got the fame! Garde : At least you're still there, I'm fainted Talonflame : You guys battle?
Bro this is what made me love competitive Pokémon when I was in high school. This shit blew my mind and brought me into a whole other realm with learning competitive play.
10 years and this still hits better than ever before. I remember watching this moment when I was young, and it shows you that you should NEVER underestimate the small Pokemon.
'grats to both players for the effort to get into Masters finals and that MVP Pachirisu for the hype it provided. What a great tournament all around. Enjoy seeing creative setups or Poke' choices in a team, it makes watching a battle so much more interesting with unknown elements.
"works best in doubles", um, more than that. Follow Me is USELESS in Singles. Using it in singles is essentially the same as using Splash. That's why I like Doubles, a whole lot of Pokemon that are worthless in singles get a chance to shine.
It was never gonna happen; Pachirisu was an extremely intelligent pick for *that* tournament, with *that* meta, to answer what was popular at *that* time, and it relied on lack of experience (nobody had every fought against a pachirisu, so nobody knew what its role even was, let alone how to shut it down). No other player found success with it. Which makes it an even more skillful play, that he was able to identify the exactly one time in history that it would have been a Worlds-winning play.
0:32 - 0:46 Pretty sure that's Gardevoir tanking up a Bullet Punch from Mega Lucario. Unless you're blind, or talking about spelling, -which is meh- :v
It goes to show that with creativity, strategy, and some great mind games, you can win a championship with a Pokemon that a lot of people consider to be garbage. You'll never win a championship with a Feebas or a Luvdisc, but by God, the meta's top tier hitters are not the only strategy available. Especially in the far more imaginative and balanced doubles. Everyone; Go to Smogon, put on your thinking caps, and shit on their tier lists.
LunarRay There are multiple movesets for Pokemon in doubles and VGC in Smogon's X and Y site. It depends on the Pokemon, of course, but they're there. But I was more talking about how they're the go-to site to pick apart Pokemon's usefulness regardless of battle-type by the general competitive mindset.
TrinityofTriforce At the very least, it's a good place to start if you haven't the first clue how to build a team. I'm not a fan of the tier lists and recommended movesets at all because I tend to plan on my own if I really care about using a pokemon, but it's interesting to see their reasoning.
art explosion That's the point isn't it? That you can win with anyone. Pachi didn't win by himself. Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.
"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites." -Karen (Elite 4)
"Strong Pokemon, weak Pokemon, that's only the selfish perspection of people, real skilled trainer should win with only their favourites" Pokémon GSC Karen elite 4
Although it seems like Sejun steamrolled Jeudy in that second game, BP actually had a ~2/3 chance at the OHKO. Either way, so happy Sejun won. That guy is too good.
This is correct it had 11/16 to kill but he actually thought it was 15/16 which is why he thought he could get away with ALSO dropping Garchomp's Speed. And no sandstorm KO.
It's been 10 years and I still remember how amazing it was the Pachirisu took a draco meteor to the face and still lived and that just proves out of all Pokemon no matter how weak no matter how strong any Pokemon can be great
"Strong pokemon. Weak pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the pokemon they love best."
Quie mas vino de tiktok? Todos los dias son la world cup 2014 para salamnce jajaja, pero osea al final iba perder si mataban a pachirisu, porque el ataque que mato a girtanita fue de garchomp o me equivoco?
Doubtful. Usage isn't the only thing that determines a Pokémon's tier rank, viability also takes into account (basically how well the Pokémon in question does compared to other Pokémon in the same tier). Pachirisu is complete garbage in single battles with only a small niche in doubles.
well, Vic was a bad example(replace it with Eolite Jigglypuff), haha. what I meant was some Pokemon are better in Doubles/Triples drastically more then they are in Singles.
fawfulmark2 Yeah, I got your point. By the time I made that comment it was half between not really being aware and half thinking noobs will use it because Se Jun did it. Also, wasn't Eviolite Clefairy, and not Jigglypuff?
Question: do any competitive battlers actually nickname their Pokémon? I always do, but I've never understood why more people wouldn't want to personalise their Pokémon. It seems odd to me. Like not naming a pet.
The system automatically change the names into their default names. Not all pokemon trainers name their pokemons with normal names. You wouldn't want players trolling with dirty/offensive names when they're doing battles....
9/10 he would have lost that Gardevior. I doubt he ran any investment on it as you'd have 252satk / 252spe on a choice scarf set. 252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 140-168 (97.2 - 116.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
He knew his team was weak to scarfed Gardevoir and he also knew it wasn't a 100% OHKO he probably falsely thought like you that it wasn't def invested but he coulda paired it with Ttar for the turn 1 kill with sandstorm.
0:50 sometimes i dont get the crowd, do they not understand the typings or why do they start cheering loud only once lucario faints and not when tbe eq comes out, if any of them played pokemon for a little bit they would know Lucario does not in any world live a Stab EQ from Garchomp WHILE ALREADY AT HALF HEALTH. Are they not seeing the screen? Are they not hearing the commentators? Or is there a 10 second delay between what the commentators sees and what the crowd sees
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"Pachirisu became the centre of attention!"
I think it's already the centre of attention.
No reply after 8 years and 1.1K likes? lemme change that
She was as soon as it was known she'd be making her first debut in champs, and even after the Draco meteor, she still hung on
Pachirisu's Follow Me so powerful we're still following her 6 years later.
8 years later*
8 years later
And we'll still follow her
8 years, 10 years… countless years will pass, we will follow Pachirisu. She made history in 2014
9 years
10 years now
Whenever I'm feeling down, I just think about this match and I instantly feel a bit better about everything.
23 n still do. Real story.
It's interesting how most of the top players in VGC Masters use non-standard options. No Mega Kanga on either team, which is surprising but it's the same as I saw in Australian Nationals. While you see it in all the Jr and Sr finals, the Masters seem to want to try something different.
Se Jun Park will go down in history as the guy who became world champion with a Pachirisu.
Junior Finals was unfortunately a mirror match of Aegislash-Garchomp-MegaKanga-ElectrictypewithGroundImmunity.
I don't see Zapdos that often though, so that was at least interesting.
It's because the meta is ridiculously predictable. The moment you throw something that's not regularly seen in there (such as the Pachirisu) people don't know how to react to it and instead of predicting exactly what it's going to do instead have to guess what it might do.
Yeah, that's the main advantage of doing things like this. I once had a match where my opponent looked at my team and said "never seen a Raichu before", and at that I knew I basically had an auto-win.
You have to make sure your rogue choice actually matches up decently in the metagame though. This guy clearly knew what he was doing with Pachirisu, but if you don't you could end up handicapping yourself.
Something I'd like to see more people try is unconventional sets on standard Pokemon. If anything, this can actually thow people off even more than underused Pokemon can. Just make sure the set is actually good. I once saw someone use Special Scizor just to "be original". It worked out how you'd expect. Of course the problem is if your unconventional idea starts winning things and getting attention, it ceases to be unpredictable anymore. I'm pretty sure Special Aegislash started out like this, now it's the standard.
BigKlingy
Choice Band Aegislash is hilarious. Physical attackers swap out expecting King's Shield and end up eating a banded Pursuit. Anyway my favorite example I've seen of this was a RUclipsr who plays a lot of NU having someone leave in a Greninja against a Scarfed Dedenne.
3:00 where the legend began.
This is history
Bris W (Official) I went to school with Juedy Azzarelli for 2yrs in college
Salamance: Para mí todos los días son la world Champion 2014
vine también por el mismo video, ahora entiendo lo del Garchomp que se va tomar cerveza con el Pachirisu😂
Jajaja x2 no entendía bien lo del garchomp con pachirisu hasta que vi esto
los pseudo papus xd
Yo también vine por el mismo video
pobre Salamance, para él todos los días es la world champion 2014😔
No es culpa de garchomp 😕
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@emiliobonilla7484 solamente es salamandra
Entendí la referencia
Me pregunto si ya le inyectaron el cianuro al Hidreygon
Pachi : i- i can explain
Garch : I made them faint, but you got the fame!
Garde : At least you're still there, I'm fainted
Talonflame : You guys battle?
Thing is talon flame already got a shine by thawing out of freeze
The moment that Pachirisu was survived after STAB RS and DM ... is really shocked me.
Bro this is what made me love competitive Pokémon when I was in high school. This shit blew my mind and brought me into a whole other realm with learning competitive play.
10 years and this still hits better than ever before.
I remember watching this moment when I was young, and it shows you that you should NEVER underestimate the small Pokemon.
Is he some kind of legend now in the Pokemon community?
yep
+MrExo Yes. Pachirisu is much more common now, and it's synonymous with Se Jun.
3 years later, we still remember this moment
Sigue siendo un momento icónico en el mundo competitivo de Pokémon
There's a meme about this on internet 😂
A decade later, here we are
This is such an amazing experience. But what really makes me happy is how the crowd goes WILD after Pachirisu tanks a full draco meteor.
I love how this nice rodent stays happy during the whole fight.
'grats to both players for the effort to get into Masters finals and that MVP Pachirisu for the hype it provided. What a great tournament all around. Enjoy seeing creative setups or Poke' choices in a team, it makes watching a battle so much more interesting with unknown elements.
PARA MI TODOS LOS DIAS SON LA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP DE 2014
Literalmente vine a ver el video solo por eso jajaja
La mayoría vino solo por los pseudos papus jajajajaja
I Can't believe Pachurisu was this much of a threat in the battle o.o it might become a thing now for some players XD
keep in mind it was a double battle. that follow me move was its primary gimick that i would say works best in doubles.
"works best in doubles", um, more than that. Follow Me is USELESS in Singles. Using it in singles is essentially the same as using Splash.
That's why I like Doubles, a whole lot of Pokemon that are worthless in singles get a chance to shine.
BigKlingy Same reason i like weather teams.
It was never gonna happen; Pachirisu was an extremely intelligent pick for *that* tournament, with *that* meta, to answer what was popular at *that* time, and it relied on lack of experience (nobody had every fought against a pachirisu, so nobody knew what its role even was, let alone how to shut it down). No other player found success with it. Which makes it an even more skillful play, that he was able to identify the exactly one time in history that it would have been a Worlds-winning play.
let the pachirisu reign of terror begin xD
Inspiration for Pokemon to make a Mega Pachurisu anyone?
Saroine Hero He doesn’t even need one
you cant increase the power of a god
Or a status buff thing
May Be A Thing In Z-A
actually, i'm more surprised on Gardevoir. taking a Bullet Punch from mega Lucario :o
super fang dragon claw crit tho
0:32 - 0:46 Pretty sure that's Gardevoir tanking up a Bullet Punch from Mega Lucario.
Unless you're blind, or talking about spelling, -which is meh- :v
@@mikeL-official12 that's nothing, when pachirisu tanked both Rock Slide and Draco Meteor "back to back"... not to mention the both moves are STAB!.
@@asphyxiationofarruhu2444 adaptability STAB bullet punch from mega lucario. And mind you, garde is weak to steel types.
Bullet punch does have 40 base power and garde has def investments
Salamence porfavor solo superalo, la world Cup 2014 paso hace 8 años
Tyranitar, todos los malditos dias para mi son la World Cup 2014
It goes to show that with creativity, strategy, and some great mind games, you can win a championship with a Pokemon that a lot of people consider to be garbage.
You'll never win a championship with a Feebas or a Luvdisc, but by God, the meta's top tier hitters are not the only strategy available. Especially in the far more imaginative and balanced doubles.
Everyone; Go to Smogon, put on your thinking caps, and shit on their tier lists.
Dude, I am fairly sure Smogon tiers are built around Singles.
VGC are Doubles.
-Try using Follow Me in Singles.-
LunarRay
There are multiple movesets for Pokemon in doubles and VGC in Smogon's X and Y site. It depends on the Pokemon, of course, but they're there.
But I was more talking about how they're the go-to site to pick apart Pokemon's usefulness regardless of battle-type by the general competitive mindset.
TrinityofTriforce At the very least, it's a good place to start if you haven't the first clue how to build a team. I'm not a fan of the tier lists and recommended movesets at all because I tend to plan on my own if I really care about using a pokemon, but it's interesting to see their reasoning.
I was basically crying at the end of this :D such a well-played battle
This is the Daigo v Justin Wong Evo 2004 of Pokémon.
Just remember that Se-Jun was only 18 when he won this tournament
The Pseudo-papus
Esas chelas no se pagan solas xd
¿Se va a hacer o no se va a hacer ? 🤠
Tan solo quiero reproducirme
Todos venimos por el otro vídeo estamos de acuerdo?
Si jajaja
Never thought a Pachirisu would be so good! Great job!
Vine solamente porque para salamance todos los dias es la world champion 2014 :v.
This just goes to show you can win with ANY pokemon! Viva Pachi!!
no it didn't
arsenal1416 Goes to show that if you're unpredictable in such a highly structured metagame, you can go very far with very little.
what ***** said, sorry for structuring my sentence so poorly, geez arsenal1416 Hilbert França
Kaname Fujiwara Top lel quit that bullshit, of course a 200 BP move with 780 atk is going to KO everyone. Magikarp didn't win by itself
art explosion That's the point isn't it? That you can win with anyone. Pachi didn't win by himself. Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.
10 year anniversary and Sejun’s using Pachirisu again :pray:
Just revisiting a legendary moment, don't mind me.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ PRAISE PACHIRISU ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ PRAISE HELIX ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Desde entonces, para Salamance todos los días son la World Cup 2014.
"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people.
Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites."
-Karen (Elite 4)
Solo fue mera estrategia
No es solo criar a lo baboso y ya,se deben tener a los pokes correctos
Truly skilled trainers should try to win with Urshifu, Flutter Mane and Tornadus. Smh.
oh my god this is why everyone on various pokemon sites vlogs or pages have been wanting pachirisu.
Like si vienes de ver el vídeo de lo pseudopapus
"Strong Pokemon, weak Pokemon, that's only the selfish perspection of people, real skilled trainer should win with only their favourites" Pokémon GSC Karen elite 4
Todos están aquí después de ver los pseudopapus
Y yo ni lo busque
2014 te cambio
Atte: Garchomp
This video single-handedly makes me want to play Pokemon competitively🤣
Although it seems like Sejun steamrolled Jeudy in that second game, BP actually had a ~2/3 chance at the OHKO. Either way, so happy Sejun won. That guy is too good.
This is correct it had 11/16 to kill but he actually thought it was 15/16 which is why he thought he could get away with ALSO dropping Garchomp's Speed. And no sandstorm KO.
Pobre salamence lo dejaron con secuelas
10 years has passed and still epic
10 years later, still remembering this wild moment.
4:04 NANI?!!!
Shortly after this happened Pachirisu was everywhere! Within a couple of months it dropped down from OU and faded into irrelevancy.
Thanks so much for uploading these
Who here 10 years later lmao
My favorite Pokémon clip of all time, insane.
It's been 10 years and I still remember how amazing it was the Pachirisu took a draco meteor to the face and still lived and that just proves out of all Pokemon no matter how weak no matter how strong any Pokemon can be great
This right here is why you don't underestimate ANYTHING.
Pachirisu be surviving Dragons like it was nothin
Legends Says Pachirisu is still the centre of attention
El pachirisu legendario
The commentary makes this a million times better.
"Strong pokemon. Weak pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the pokemon they love best."
Sejun really said, "Now what if I did it again?"
Se fué pseudo-funado ese pseudo-papu
I can't believe it, 6 vicious, well trained monsters lost to a squirrel.
And this is the ultimate slap in the fact to "meta" players...
Quie mas vino de tiktok?
Todos los dias son la world cup 2014 para salamnce jajaja, pero osea al final iba perder si mataban a pachirisu, porque el ataque que mato a girtanita fue de garchomp o me equivoco?
That was great. Pachirisu was just hilarious
So much nostalgia... Praise the Lord Pachirisu !
Lady* but whatevs
Después de eso, algo cambio dentro de salamence, algo se quebró
10 años de este momento legendario
Epico
wait theres pokemon fire red leaf green music in this game?
Dayum the opponent is like couldn't believe he got owned by a pachurisu
This was an awesome win!
Ash won the world championship with a pikachu, but Se jun park did it first with his clone
Sometimes what? SOMETIMES WHAT?!
6 years late, I know, but:
"You'll never hear the end of that story! I'M MOVING ON."
Welcome to T1 Se Jun Park! Fighting!
Did Jeudy bring along Madoka Magica figurines with him to the table or something?
Ahora veo que Salamance es el único intenso, Tyranitar lo superó muy bien 😁
If pokemon were real i feel like it would be more normal to see favorite pokemon get used
3:40 is that you came for
Salamanca: para mí todos los días es la world champions 2014
He took 'em to the PARK!!
역시 세준 한국 포켓몬계의 자존심
How is gary's song playing?
Guess who’s back
imagine your a large dragon and you get your ass kicked by a squirrel
he was even holding a pachirisu doll
it's already been destined
what's pachirisu's last move besides nuzzle, super fang, and follow me?
Protect. He used it in the first match.
I can see Pachirisu skyrocketing to OU
Doubtful. Usage isn't the only thing that determines a Pokémon's tier rank, viability also takes into account (basically how well the Pokémon in question does compared to other Pokémon in the same tier). Pachirisu is complete garbage in single battles with only a small niche in doubles.
Lukethehedgehog1 dus meta is mad diff from singles. Pachirisu, Amoongus and Victini are almost useless in singles but quite good in dubs, for example.
fawfulmark2 Victini isn't allowed on VGC.
well, Vic was a bad example(replace it with Eolite Jigglypuff), haha. what I meant was some Pokemon are better in Doubles/Triples drastically more then they are in Singles.
fawfulmark2 Yeah, I got your point. By the time I made that comment it was half between not really being aware and half thinking noobs will use it because Se Jun did it.
Also, wasn't Eviolite Clefairy, and not Jigglypuff?
The most awesome battle !!
Question: do any competitive battlers actually nickname their Pokémon? I always do, but I've never understood why more people wouldn't want to personalise their Pokémon. It seems odd to me. Like not naming a pet.
The system automatically change the names into their default names. Not all pokemon trainers name their pokemons with normal names. You wouldn't want players trolling with dirty/offensive names when they're doing battles....
I find naming them to be way more weird tbh, they aren’t a pet as they aren’t real
@@jebalitabb8228lol how is it weird if it's a feature that the game makers put into the game 🤔
Me and the psudopapus
Think about how the two guys felt getting rocked by a pachurisu
The unique music!
Desde ese día Salamence no volvio a ser el mismo
I loved Jeudy back then but this was an epic win
9/10 he would have lost that Gardevior. I doubt he ran any investment on it as you'd have 252satk / 252spe on a choice scarf set.
252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 140-168 (97.2 - 116.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
4 HP 44 Def 11/16 to OHKO
He knew his team was weak to scarfed Gardevoir and he also knew it wasn't a 100% OHKO he probably falsely thought like you that it wasn't def invested but he coulda paired it with Ttar for the turn 1 kill with sandstorm.
He actually thought it was a 15/16 according to what he wrote on his team report but it was 11/16 thus the failure to make sure it killed
Not sure if Ttar woulda been the best assurance w/+1 SDef sandstorm but he thought he could get away without it
Actually he was running Charizard Y/Kangaskhan until before Worlds so he was inexperienced with the Mega Luc strat
On what platform is this tournament played on, is it a 3DS?
Game Boy Color
Gramaphone
darude - sandstorm
Nokia vertu
Andrew M
But can a Gramaphone play DOOM?
He visto cosas op pero ninguna tan op como ese pachirisu
0:50 sometimes i dont get the crowd, do they not understand the typings or why do they start cheering loud only once lucario faints and not when tbe eq comes out, if any of them played pokemon for a little bit they would know Lucario does not in any world live a Stab EQ from Garchomp WHILE ALREADY AT HALF HEALTH. Are they not seeing the screen? Are they not hearing the commentators? Or is there a 10 second delay between what the commentators sees and what the crowd sees
3:39 The Evo Moment 37 of VGC
This is amazing.
5:09 a rammus hat :3
Ok.