Athrys’s Embrace is your best bet I’d think. Pair with Desperate Measures to snowball. In a single burst your knives are ramped up and ready to go. You can always go Revision Zero sure, but this opens up your energy slot for whatever Exotic you could want.
My question is... what exotic energy special is worth using Blast Furnace over Revision Zero? The energy slot doesn't have a Conditional Finality or even a chaperone. Duality is cool, but it isn't as effective as those powerhouse options. Athrys also covers some of the utility you'd get from a fusion rifle... so why not essentially have a pulse rifle, a shotgun, a knife, AND a sniper? With Hunter's Trace IV it has better base stats in every column except for 8 range and shoots like a laser beam. That 8 range means it loses 1 meter of range total, but with Blast Furnace you almost need to run a handling masterwork or Fluted (or both, like Cammy is doing) to make it not a brick anyway. I personally use High Cal rounds, and even with the flinch nerfs it still flinches like hell. I suppose if I just happen to get the PvP roll I want, I might keep it, but I don't see enough value for me to grind 100 hours for the roll that's maybe better when I can just go to the enclave and craft a Revision Zero.
@@Gunnar120 Suppose it’s personal preference. I think Devil’s Ruin and Fighting Lion can complement the Athrys playstyle, and Tarrabah is a great force multiplier. You could box people in with Telesto, or bash barricades with Tommy’s Matchbook. Divinity is funny and has synergy with the knives. Fourth Horseman NUKES supers if you *really* want a Conditional equivalent.
@@Valskyr At first I was confused because they have like a 0.3 kd overall but then I saw the IB stats and wow. like a 50kd and 90% win rate. Not sure if it is the original account owner hacking or if they gave/sold their account. Last regular pvp match was in 2022.
He said Belisarius is better because of higher total stats. Even with the stocks It doesn't really have an edge unless you're going for the highest handling possible. Blast furnace has more range, stability, reload, and aim assist. Not to mention the zen moment rapid hit roll he wants will be enhanceable in the future giving even more stats.
It's also an effective range and ttk thing. The only place you can really pop off with it is on and long range, with no pushing. It makes you play slow and methodically. If you miss the two burst the fire rate is very unforgiving. The only way to make it consistent is to have the recoil memorized, have kill clip up, or get lucky with your head seeker shoots. Where with belisarius you have slice and a few other more conservative pvp perks with a better versatile stats pool. He's not saying the gun isn't good. Just for high level pvp it doesn't shake things up like hammer did, or imortal. It's a fun gun that dose good however the archetype and perks put into a box play style. If you ever have a problem with people rocking you with it, sawp to a scout, servant leader, jade, hung jury, dmt they all beat it out of its effective range. And if they hard push to make up for it rock a 140, an smg, or trace rifle and you've fully countered this pulse. Also if you wanted to be as pedantic as you are, just get an adept insidious highest possible stats and best perks with a one of the best traits in the game. It's a matter of playstyle and rank diff.
Except he outright says it's also a personal preference and it's still a good gun at the end of the day, just that the archetype overall falls behind certain options specifically from a high competitive standpoint.
I’ve been using the bugged version of Zaouli’s which comes from a pantheon triumph. It only has polygonal rifling, eye of the storm and an adept range mod. No mag, no explosive rounds, no masterwork. I feel like it’s improving my aim since I only have my aim to blame. Would love to see a video if you haven’t picked up the one perk zaouli yet.
I have a 3/5 of Cammy’s god roll (Fluted Barrel, Tac Mag, Rapid Hit, Zen Moment, Stability MW) and it feels like a laser. It’s stupid. It’s the ultimate lame rifle.
One of my favorite blast furnace combos is Athrys’ embrace and explosive personality with disruption break. Debug your target to take extra kinetic damage and set yourself up for a weighted knife
I slapped on a random Shoot to Loot/Firefly roll to give Chromatic Fire + Firefly a shot, and it slapped on par with a Zen Moment/Headseeker Syncopation. Very cool gun.
Perpetual motion, kill clip, polygonal rifling accurized rounds with range masterwork has been godly in 6v6 for me. 100 range and max stability with perpetual
I haven't touched PvP in about a year. Did something happen with the original Blast Furnaces as well? The range doesn't seem to be nearly as far anymore. I still use the old version because Drop Mag is really good now that primary ammo is infinite.
Keep away and firefly on blast furnace paired with strand titan and synths is a great way to cover your far and close ranges, slap on your favorite waking vigil and have fun is what I do with it lmao
For this frame of. Pulses I run Boots of the assembler or stag on empowering rift with child of the olds or heat rises lock. I get a bit aggressive usually pushing to cover popping my rift and slam them with a Burst or two allowing myself or a teammate to easily clean them up
i almost like to think of these 4 burst rifles as a mini/ legendary version of vigilance wing just in terms of engagement space and bullet dispensing. Sure blast furnace could be used effectively farther away than other pulses and thats its strength, but at least in my above average lobbies (def still no where near 'skill island') tho where people understand how to peak shoot and predict gaps in bursts of my pulse while using 120s or 140s in that midrange, the extra shot per firing really seems to pull its weight in terms of dealing flinch and chip damage when opponents peak and i still have an extra shot or two of my burst on its way
i utilized the radiant frostees build with this pulse, being zen moment kill clip. it shredded and was just a bit nicer, gave just a bit more forgiveness
Sticking with my unsunsetting original. Zen rampage 91 range 82 stability 37 handling and 20 Zoom which helps at 41m. If you don't die to a scout, then next kills get progressively easier for 6v6s.
Blast Furnace is 🔥 got a perpetual motion and kill clip roll and dropped a 41 piece nug in some iron banner control last night and I play on PS5. Nobody on my level
I love the comparison to Belisarius-D which wad where my mind went first. I have been a Rev Zero main for a long time so i like this archetype. And being a number cruncher i have conlcuded that both are great and it comes down to preference. If I have to recommend I easily go Belisarius-D because it is easily farmable from the crucible and is not outside of that time of you having fun. Also Belisarius-D has more utily to me and funner builds. All atound great review and I recommend getting a good roll of either in your vault. Bonus if you saw cam's strafe speed video recently with punching out and thought that was cool Belisarius-D and Crisis inverted are both curcible engram rewards that can get those ridiculous ADS strafe speed shenanigans. Anyways my two cents. Eyes up guardians.
For me personally, blast furnace needs headseeker, i got a shiny with arrowhead zen kill clip and i struggled against other pulses like NTTE. I put on my rapid hit headseeker sacred provenance which granted has lower stats but the 2 bursts were coming at an unreal rate and it just felt so much better, it is a feel thing but thats just my opinion
I have a Shiny Blast Furnace with Arrowhead, Acc. Rounds, Headseeker, and Rapid hit. With a handling masterwork. You ain't wrong, i tried Zen Moment and Keep Away. But the range/ stability those perks gave weren't really needed as the stats at base were good. Rapid hit makes the thing good at dueling. The reload after is always nice. It also has a kill clip...but im not bothering with it atm, the damage makes everyone melt like butter. But the reload is ABYSMALLY bad Im still new with 4 burst rifles. You have any tips on using them?
@@SamStraker if you start dueling 340 pulses, walk backwards, the fall off on 340s is hilariously bad unless they have consistency perks because 4 bursts have more range
I never cared for blast furnace much, but i will be going for a very niche pick with firefly so i can pair it with chromatic fire (ironic to me that cammy happens to be using this in this video). Everything else it does I would rather use a different pulse.
Back when the anniversary update dropped and also a little after witch queen. Was probably when agressive pulses were both niche and strong. The meta back then was solved to 140s and shotguns/snipers. And sacred prominence wae able to battle snipers and hand cannons much easier. Qhat made these pulses good however wss simply people not knowing about them or their ttk or range. Now days? That they finally have a good few agressives ane range values have shifted. They are just outclassed by high impact.
With the sandbox changes to players’ health, these 4 burst pulses have much less usefulness against better weaponry. Players are just choosing weapons that duel better at specific ranges. Getting two pulse bursts in any duel is getting rarer, unless you’re stealing kills from an already dueling player.
I have a max handling belisarius with rapid hit / moving target and a perfect adept messenger with the new origin trait... I fail to see how blast furnace would be worth grinding with this, but for those who don't have either this is an easier grind probably
Belisarius had weird recoil, so rapid hit really helps a lot. For Blast Furnace, zen moment + kill clip + max handling is the godroll to chase (dueling + kills chaining)
I have sooo many great rolls on my furnace(s)... Thought headseeker rapid, zen rapid, zen kill, Head seeker kill ECT... BUTT, big BUTT... Keep away Frenzy... Ya, 65 recoil fluted handling mw. Don't know how or why, but Keep away Frenzy just slayed,way out preformed for me. Take 1 shot, wait about 4 seconds, get hit, wait 4 seconds and engage, now chain... Sounds weird, but honestly it's kind of natural to do. Just remember to hesitate between to reach your 4 seconds if needed.
I dont play anymore. I basically sucked at the game because I'm a 30 yr old dad. But seeing cammy often use pulse/slug warlock on the sticks makes me feel better about how i preferred to play the game :')
I always thought 4 burst pulses were like worse, k mart versions of high impact pulses lmao. They’re the same thing but harder to use and kill slower. I just don’t see why they exist
I have one with arrowhead break, appended mag, kinetic tremors and frenzy. It’s a work horse in pve! The extra 2 burst from appended mag gives me more opportunities to proc kinetic tremors and frenzy. Surprisingly good synergy!
In general I feel like they made way too many Pulse Rifle types and aggressives often felt like they fell in a extremely weird space for what they physically do. Don't get me wrong Blast Furnace and most especially Go Figure and Right Side of Wrong were stone cold classics especially in range outlier days, but now in a world where everybody has a self heal up their sleeve, everything's reeled in and we can flinch for an eternity, missing part of the 4 burst shot really stinks and it's not fun when your ttk is far from optimal because of that. God bless ya if you never miss your shots and never get flinched, but yeah the 4 bursts can get real sketchy. Also good call out for Rapid Fire Scouts because Precision Instrument Fang of Ir Yut is a complete scam in the best way possible.
Personally, I've really been enjoying it, (esp on Citadel, i dont like the map but it feels like the best map for the range sweetspot of the gun when playing around B)
Honestly, I find revision zero way better stat wise and competitively. But ultimately there is no reason to choose a 450rpm pulse over a high impact as you'll get beaten every single time besides some range encounters.
There's no comparison with Belisarius. The gun is disgustingly bad due to deterministic recoil, you need 95 stability to make Belisarius work, I've had every basic B godroll on Beli farming for Rose and not a single one felt good. Meanwhile disparity washes it and probably washes Blast too but at least blast has a great scope.
My favorite build to use Blast Furnace with is Arthrys. Though, I find it hard to justify using it over Rev Zero. Unless I really want to pair it with Duality.
BF feels awful on controler to me. Mainly cause where its optimal range is it is hard to micro adjust on controller. Maybe if it had better zoom or aim assist it would be easier to control. A scout, or a slow firing auto just feels better at that range. I was constantly out gunning people using this with 360 auto with max range. They were constantly landing the first, but as soon as I returned fire they were all ove the place. When I used same story. It was awesome if you got the drop on people, & they couldn't find where they were getting shot from, but as soon as they were able to return fire any amount of flinch made it impossible to land a shot. I was having more success with a faster firng pulse like the BXR even those longer ranges. You can say what you want about Lunas Howl, but it felt like the only thing I was consistently losing to this week in banner. I haven't really felt Hand cannons in long while maybe they are good again I will try one out next time banner rolls around...Only time a bother with Destiny's awful PvP.
@@Oblivion9996 it's not reflected on the stat screen, basically equal to recoil direction stat is a total lie. I suggest you watch cool guy video about it from 5-6 months ago. its a review about Belisarius-D btw
and not because the patch notes says that something is meta it means its viable, more time shooting more shots mean more flinch you have to handle, no patch notes or sandox update will ever fix that, have a mind of your own
Hitting immunes in PvP, clearly Cammy hasn’t left the Destiny 1 beta yet and all the PvP enemies are those knights in the basement in the Cosmodrome
Jesus, had to dig deep for that blast from the past huh bro?
@@fuhkyu8146 dug so deep I went back to middle school
I was in that match on that cheaters team. He was hacking his nuts off.
I spent like an hour tickling those knights back in the day
4:20 max resilience
all he could say was "uh......"
That’s not just max resil that was some de sync if I e ever seen it
Nice
Athrys’s Embrace is your best bet I’d think. Pair with Desperate Measures to snowball. In a single burst your knives are ramped up and ready to go. You can always go Revision Zero sure, but this opens up your energy slot for whatever Exotic you could want.
My question is... what exotic energy special is worth using Blast Furnace over Revision Zero? The energy slot doesn't have a Conditional Finality or even a chaperone. Duality is cool, but it isn't as effective as those powerhouse options. Athrys also covers some of the utility you'd get from a fusion rifle... so why not essentially have a pulse rifle, a shotgun, a knife, AND a sniper?
With Hunter's Trace IV it has better base stats in every column except for 8 range and shoots like a laser beam. That 8 range means it loses 1 meter of range total, but with Blast Furnace you almost need to run a handling masterwork or Fluted (or both, like Cammy is doing) to make it not a brick anyway. I personally use High Cal rounds, and even with the flinch nerfs it still flinches like hell.
I suppose if I just happen to get the PvP roll I want, I might keep it, but I don't see enough value for me to grind 100 hours for the roll that's maybe better when I can just go to the enclave and craft a Revision Zero.
@@Gunnar120 Suppose it’s personal preference. I think Devil’s Ruin and Fighting Lion can complement the Athrys playstyle, and Tarrabah is a great force multiplier. You could box people in with Telesto, or bash barricades with Tommy’s Matchbook. Divinity is funny and has synergy with the knives. Fourth Horseman NUKES supers if you *really* want a Conditional equivalent.
My wife left me and has full custody of my blast furnace.
She blast on my furnace till my rifle pulses
I'm so sorry
Should have signed a prenup.
Me and your wife have custody of your blast furnace 😂😂
Datto strikes again
This weapon review just got so much better with someone cheating in a 6s playlist😂😂 4:21
immune guardians woah
Gaming chairs are getting better
cheater, check his crucible report
@@Valskyr At first I was confused because they have like a 0.3 kd overall but then I saw the IB stats and wow. like a 50kd and 90% win rate. Not sure if it is the original account owner hacking or if they gave/sold their account. Last regular pvp match was in 2022.
he has to do raid mechanics before his immunity shield drops
@@sickninja7937 pretty cool dps phase
ah, the dad rifle my beloved
But that’s a sniper.
He said Belisarius is better because of higher total stats. Even with the stocks It doesn't really have an edge unless you're going for the highest handling possible. Blast furnace has more range, stability, reload, and aim assist. Not to mention the zen moment rapid hit roll he wants will be enhanceable in the future giving even more stats.
I usually hard disagree with a lot of his reviews lol
It's also an effective range and ttk thing. The only place you can really pop off with it is on and long range, with no pushing. It makes you play slow and methodically. If you miss the two burst the fire rate is very unforgiving. The only way to make it consistent is to have the recoil memorized, have kill clip up, or get lucky with your head seeker shoots. Where with belisarius you have slice and a few other more conservative pvp perks with a better versatile stats pool. He's not saying the gun isn't good. Just for high level pvp it doesn't shake things up like hammer did, or imortal. It's a fun gun that dose good however the archetype and perks put into a box play style. If you ever have a problem with people rocking you with it, sawp to a scout, servant leader, jade, hung jury, dmt they all beat it out of its effective range. And if they hard push to make up for it rock a 140, an smg, or trace rifle and you've fully countered this pulse. Also if you wanted to be as pedantic as you are, just get an adept insidious highest possible stats and best perks with a one of the best traits in the game. It's a matter of playstyle and rank diff.
Belisarius feels unusable, regardless of the roll. Blast furnace just works.
Except he outright says it's also a personal preference and it's still a good gun at the end of the day, just that the archetype overall falls behind certain options specifically from a high competitive standpoint.
This, i have every god roll imaginable and they all feel horrible. I think aggressives pulses are just bad tho. @brent5310
I don't even have kids and I became a dad using this gun.
I’ve been using the bugged version of Zaouli’s which comes from a pantheon triumph. It only has polygonal rifling, eye of the storm and an adept range mod. No mag, no explosive rounds, no masterwork. I feel like it’s improving my aim since I only have my aim to blame. Would love to see a video if you haven’t picked up the one perk zaouli yet.
I've been watching Cammy for a long time and I still haven't seen a repeat "sub" animation at the end 😂
Onslaught Machine made me chuckle 😂
These subscribe end screens getting out of hand and I'm here for it
I have a 3/5 of Cammy’s god roll (Fluted Barrel, Tac Mag, Rapid Hit, Zen Moment, Stability MW) and it feels like a laser. It’s stupid. It’s the ultimate lame rifle.
One of my favorite blast furnace combos is Athrys’ embrace and explosive personality with disruption break. Debug your target to take extra kinetic damage and set yourself up for a weighted knife
I slapped on a random Shoot to Loot/Firefly roll to give Chromatic Fire + Firefly a shot, and it slapped on par with a Zen Moment/Headseeker Syncopation. Very cool gun.
I have a head seeker kill clip roll and it’s fun, especially when both are proc’d. However I still prefer my bxr if I’m using a pulse
Perpetual motion, kill clip, polygonal rifling accurized rounds with range masterwork has been godly in 6v6 for me. 100 range and max stability with perpetual
I haven't touched PvP in about a year. Did something happen with the original Blast Furnaces as well? The range doesn't seem to be nearly as far anymore. I still use the old version because Drop Mag is really good now that primary ammo is infinite.
Keep away and firefly on blast furnace paired with strand titan and synths is a great way to cover your far and close ranges, slap on your favorite waking vigil and have fun is what I do with it lmao
I have a headseeker/rampage that I'm looking forward to trying out on the new maps today. Yeeeee
My snapshot rapid hit roll smokes guys and 2 bursts regularly. I might have to try an empowering rift and luna boots to kick the range out to orbit
Sometimes I wonder if Cammy plays the same game.
For this frame of. Pulses I run Boots of the assembler or stag on empowering rift with child of the olds or heat rises lock. I get a bit aggressive usually pushing to cover popping my rift and slam them with a Burst or two allowing myself or a teammate to easily clean them up
i almost like to think of these 4 burst rifles as a mini/ legendary version of vigilance wing just in terms of engagement space and bullet dispensing. Sure blast furnace could be used effectively farther away than other pulses and thats its strength, but at least in my above average lobbies (def still no where near 'skill island') tho where people understand how to peak shoot and predict gaps in bursts of my pulse while using 120s or 140s in that midrange, the extra shot per firing really seems to pull its weight in terms of dealing flinch and chip damage when opponents peak and i still have an extra shot or two of my burst on its way
Can u do a video explaining the range meta/range coverage as a whole, and how you would balance it
dude i used to rip ‘n tear with that beast of a rifle, im on the grind rn
i utilized the radiant frostees build with this pulse, being zen moment kill clip. it shredded and was just a bit nicer, gave just a bit more forgiveness
Sticking with my unsunsetting original. Zen rampage 91 range 82 stability 37 handling and 20 Zoom which helps at 41m. If you don't die to a scout, then next kills get progressively easier for 6v6s.
I have an Og one with QuickDraw and rampage. I’m never deleting that thing.😤
I find (at least on Console) that a headseeker + rampage roll can outrage most anything when used properly
Blast Furnace is 🔥 got a perpetual motion and kill clip roll and dropped a 41 piece nug in some iron banner control last night and I play on PS5. Nobody on my level
I love the comparison to Belisarius-D which wad where my mind went first. I have been a Rev Zero main for a long time so i like this archetype. And being a number cruncher i have conlcuded that both are great and it comes down to preference. If I have to recommend I easily go Belisarius-D because it is easily farmable from the crucible and is not outside of that time of you having fun. Also Belisarius-D has more utily to me and funner builds. All atound great review and I recommend getting a good roll of either in your vault. Bonus if you saw cam's strafe speed video recently with punching out and thought that was cool Belisarius-D and Crisis inverted are both curcible engram rewards that can get those ridiculous ADS strafe speed shenanigans. Anyways my two cents. Eyes up guardians.
Solar Hunter, On Your Mark
or void hunter with On Your Mark exotic boots, devour
head seeker + kill clip
Yknow I'm curious how you feel about lightweight pulses now, I'm a bad juju main and it's felt great after the buff
Cam I was actually just thinking about you doing a review for blast furnace, how would you feel about headseeker + rampage/kill clip/ frenzy
One of the pulse rifles of all time
It just feels really good to shoot
Get it to 100 recoil direction and just cruse
Curated roll is the best trust me, perp motion and stability masterwork is the key, try it and you will not be disappointed
For me personally, blast furnace needs headseeker, i got a shiny with arrowhead zen kill clip and i struggled against other pulses like NTTE.
I put on my rapid hit headseeker sacred provenance which granted has lower stats but the 2 bursts were coming at an unreal rate and it just felt so much better, it is a feel thing but thats just my opinion
I have a Shiny Blast Furnace with Arrowhead, Acc. Rounds, Headseeker, and Rapid hit. With a handling masterwork.
You ain't wrong, i tried Zen Moment and Keep Away. But the range/ stability those perks gave weren't really needed as the stats at base were good.
Rapid hit makes the thing good at dueling. The reload after is always nice. It also has a kill clip...but im not bothering with it atm, the damage makes everyone melt like butter. But the reload is ABYSMALLY bad
Im still new with 4 burst rifles.
You have any tips on using them?
@@SamStraker if you start dueling 340 pulses, walk backwards, the fall off on 340s is hilariously bad unless they have consistency perks because 4 bursts have more range
I never cared for blast furnace much, but i will be going for a very niche pick with firefly so i can pair it with chromatic fire (ironic to me that cammy happens to be using this in this video). Everything else it does I would rather use a different pulse.
Back when the anniversary update dropped and also a little after witch queen. Was probably when agressive pulses were both niche and strong. The meta back then was solved to 140s and shotguns/snipers. And sacred prominence wae able to battle snipers and hand cannons much easier. Qhat made these pulses good however wss simply people not knowing about them or their ttk or range.
Now days? That they finally have a good few agressives ane range values have shifted. They are just outclassed by high impact.
What do you think of headseeker as a perk? unnecessary?
in that first clip of gameplay with the guy with immunes, was that a cheater??
Yes
With the sandbox changes to players’ health, these 4 burst pulses have much less usefulness against better weaponry. Players are just choosing weapons that duel better at specific ranges. Getting two pulse bursts in any duel is getting rarer, unless you’re stealing kills from an already dueling player.
It ain’t beating my Belisarius with keep away + headseeker
I have a max handling belisarius with rapid hit / moving target and a perfect adept messenger with the new origin trait... I fail to see how blast furnace would be worth grinding with this, but for those who don't have either this is an easier grind probably
Belisarius had weird recoil, so rapid hit really helps a lot. For Blast Furnace, zen moment + kill clip + max handling is the godroll to chase (dueling + kills chaining)
I have sooo many great rolls on my furnace(s)...
Thought headseeker rapid, zen rapid, zen kill, Head seeker kill ECT...
BUTT, big BUTT... Keep away Frenzy...
Ya, 65 recoil fluted handling mw.
Don't know how or why, but Keep away Frenzy just slayed,way out preformed for me.
Take 1 shot, wait about 4 seconds, get hit, wait 4 seconds and engage, now chain...
Sounds weird, but honestly it's kind of natural to do. Just remember to hesitate between to reach your 4 seconds if needed.
I kind of like blast furnace, but I’ve only truly resonated with the likes of relentless and phylotactic
Sounds like you might just prefer the high impact archetype.
@@taylormade601 yeah prolly
The scope and zoom changes seem to have done nothing but stifle everything about long range weapons
I dont play anymore. I basically sucked at the game because I'm a 30 yr old dad. But seeing cammy often use pulse/slug warlock on the sticks makes me feel better about how i preferred to play the game :')
I think the pulse is dope but I just DON’T have the playstyle to make this gun work, I love being aggro
Been loving lightweight pulses actually, and not just bxr lol. Been slaying with battle scar
Yea Lightweights feel great, especially Stay Frosty and Chattering Bone
@@DaddyGreer65 totally forgot about chattering bone. What roll you run?
@@ZensivYT Rapid hit & headseeker, it's amazing
@@DaddyGreer65 I gotta try it
I always thought 4 burst pulses were like worse, k mart versions of high impact pulses lmao. They’re the same thing but harder to use and kill slower. I just don’t see why they exist
I dont see a reason to run blast furnace over belisarius so I haven't been farming for one
Pve wise I've been enjoying my roll of arrowhead brake tac mag kinetic tremors and rampage
I have one with arrowhead break, appended mag, kinetic tremors and frenzy. It’s a work horse in pve! The extra 2 burst from appended mag gives me more opportunities to proc kinetic tremors and frenzy. Surprisingly good synergy!
In general I feel like they made way too many Pulse Rifle types and aggressives often felt like they fell in a extremely weird space for what they physically do. Don't get me wrong Blast Furnace and most especially Go Figure and Right Side of Wrong were stone cold classics especially in range outlier days, but now in a world where everybody has a self heal up their sleeve, everything's reeled in and we can flinch for an eternity, missing part of the 4 burst shot really stinks and it's not fun when your ttk is far from optimal because of that.
God bless ya if you never miss your shots and never get flinched, but yeah the 4 bursts can get real sketchy. Also good call out for Rapid Fire Scouts because Precision Instrument Fang of Ir Yut is a complete scam in the best way possible.
Personally, I've really been enjoying it, (esp on Citadel, i dont like the map but it feels like the best map for the range sweetspot of the gun when playing around B)
Honestly, I find revision zero way better stat wise and competitively. But ultimately there is no reason to choose a 450rpm pulse over a high impact as you'll get beaten every single time besides some range encounters.
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"Oh boy..."
Gun goes funny with arthrys's and desperate
Is the head seeker kill clip even worth going for
Nah, just check d2foundry, the gun hits a ceiling there's no need to stack damage perks, that's why his roll doesn't include it.
My opinion on blast furnace has arrived
I don't know how to justify using an aggressive over a high impact, can someone give me a single reason other than 2 meters of extra range?
There is none.
High impacts wash aggressives.
Blastfurnace got Zen Moment. Staying inside it's range isn't that hard. When in range it slaps. Just feels much better than any other pulse
I’ve been running cold denial a lot again recently the gun just hits so different on MnK. Kinda dookie in the range department tho
I was in that Ziva match on pacifica. We were roasting the shit outta him in team chat. Cheating in Iron banner is wild to me.
Same, I just don't get the hype, there's no time to explain which performs way better in all circumstances.
Dam no headseeker love? Lol
High impact just feels better to me, especially relentless
i farmed for blast furnace and a wife and 3 children materialised before my eyes should i shard or keep it?
Thanks for the video glhf
I miss Sacred Provenance...
There's no comparison with Belisarius.
The gun is disgustingly bad due to deterministic recoil, you need 95 stability to make Belisarius work, I've had every basic B godroll on Beli farming for Rose and not a single one felt good.
Meanwhile disparity washes it and probably washes Blast too but at least blast has a great scope.
My favorite build to use Blast Furnace with is Arthrys. Though, I find it hard to justify using it over Rev Zero. Unless I really want to pair it with Duality.
I going for head seeker. Desperate measures. Make the most consistent pulse possible
BF feels awful on controler to me. Mainly cause where its optimal range is it is hard to micro adjust on controller. Maybe if it had better zoom or aim assist it would be easier to control. A scout, or a slow firing auto just feels better at that range. I was constantly out gunning people using this with 360 auto with max range. They were constantly landing the first, but as soon as I returned fire they were all ove the place. When I used same story. It was awesome if you got the drop on people, & they couldn't find where they were getting shot from, but as soon as they were able to return fire any amount of flinch made it impossible to land a shot. I was having more success with a faster firng pulse like the BXR even those longer ranges. You can say what you want about Lunas Howl, but it felt like the only thing I was consistently losing to this week in banner. I haven't really felt Hand cannons in long while maybe they are good again I will try one out next time banner rolls around...Only time a bother with Destiny's awful PvP.
the zen moment and rapid hit roll isn’t worth it
What in the immune fuck!?
matches a cheater and is hitting immunes 'uh...'. good reaction lmao.
its pretty mid. id just use elsies or messanger if i was playing a good pulse rifle map. and if im needing range, ill just use a scout
I got headseaker rampage and haven't lost a gun fight yet
Uh huh
Boo hiss cammy always hurting my feelings : (
Dwterministic Recoil so bad without 100 recoil
Belisaurius recoil is garbage no matter which recoil
deterministic recoil is a mistake
Why?
@@Oblivion9996 it's not reflected on the stat screen, basically equal to recoil direction stat is a total lie. I suggest you watch cool guy video about it from 5-6 months ago. its a review about Belisarius-D btw
Anti-cheat btw
its trash just because messenger exists
yeap but any high impact can easily 2 burst any resil with headseeker, 6 shots take less time than 8.... learn to count please
and not because the patch notes says that something is meta it means its viable, more time shooting more shots mean more flinch you have to handle, no patch notes or sandox update will ever fix that, have a mind of your own