+MisguidedWaves also why is insecurity a bad thing to women. you all treat insecurities as if they were a disease and anyone who has any is below you as a human being last time i checked there are plenty of incredible people with insecurities. also it doesnt matter how you do your relationship let them do theirs, their own way. the only person who seems bitter is girls who love pointing out insecurities in other women like it makes them better in some way.
+MisguidedWaves ignorance is an insult? it means lack of knowledge in a certain aspect of life. i had a lady friend that fell in love with me and wanted to leave her bf for me. it blindsided me. i didn't lead her on but i listened to her at the same time respect her relationship. it was enough for her to fall for me. i never touched her. it happens. fact.
BiohazardBeauty Because insecurities are usually toxic. I never said I was perfect. I've had them, but I got away from that life, and not have a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. So no, I'm NOT naive, or ignorant as Gabriel wants to call me. To each their own, I guess. I know that my relationship is good, and i don't have to explain myself to anyone. Take care, guys. Lol
This is really good to hear actually. I dated a guy when I was 20 who was a chef and had a lot of female coworkers. I was ok with that. One of them even flirted with him and I was ok with that. But then he told me he was taking a few of them out to the only 21+ strip club in town, refused to change the place so that I could come too, and spent hundreds of dollars buying them drinks. And I was supposed to be ok with that, knowing that one of these women he was getting drunk had already hit on him. And he had the balls to yell at ME for "ruining his whole night" by calling him and asking him if he made it home at 3am. So glad I got away from that abusive fuckface..
Yeah I agree with that too because those friendships were formed before we all hit puberty, before hormones developed and before we could be attracted to them. But if you're a girl and you met guys at work or at high school, you're friends with them for reasons that could lead you to becoming more than just friends. This is just what I think. ❤
I'm with Tamar on this one. It's not about being insecure or petty, but it is about respect for your spouse. Once you are married, any friends of the opposite sex should be family friends of the couple and that's it.
True, that is why I back away, and if I were dating a guy, I would end it out of respect for my old married friend so his wife could feel good knowing that no man would or could want me. Unless the woman was okay with me being in a dating. I am not sure how women who are in a relationship feel about a woman being single and then meeting a single man and getting into a relationship with her. I am all about respect, and if my being single makes women feel respected, then I can be single forever.
I'm with Tam and Adrienne, I would like to know who the girl is and she needs to know about me. I'm not going to tell you who you can and can't be friends with. If you don't have trust in a relationship, then what are you doing? It just looks shady if you're hiding her from me and vice versa.
1,000% agree, when you're MARRIED there's no reason to hang out alone with someone who isn't, unless it's a group situation. You shouldn't even feel the need to. End of story and Amen Tay tay.
Yes, you can absolutely fall in love w/o having sex with somebody. That's the best way anyway. A man or a woman can have sex with anybody, but a true heart and soul connection is what makes it last. Agreed w/ Adrienne & Tamera. Your man should come to you with anything (rather than a female friend). I don't think a man would appreciate his woman going to another man (friend) for emotional support either. This is a great conversation.
No a real man unless he is gay cant fall in love without having sex are you kidding me. Unless your Gay or unless you are 2 girls or 2 guys. There is noway in hell a straight guy can fall in love with a attractive woman without wanting more. You ladies say you can cause you women believe because of what you have that we want controlls us like that. Reality check hun It doesnt. You get a confident man who isnt afraid to walk away he wont tolerate that way of thinking nope
😂 All these women are super delusional. There isn't a platonic friendship between guys and girls fullstop 🛑! If you really don't think so then I dare you to call your so called friend and say I'm h*rnt wanna 💥 ect.. Wanna come over ect
Alexa Isaac it never is. Body language tells it all. Tamar even says she's insecure so every time Loni comments on Vince she gives her this look before fake laughing.
If my spouse's friends were there before me, I really can't stop that friendship unless they are crossing boundaries but new female friends are unacceptable.
So your saying you can have male friends even if your with someone? So that would go for you also. Your so called just male friends before you met him are ok? YA right. And that also means you cant get new male friends either. Fair is fair
@@SportsLiveInTheAtl yeah? That's exactly what it means? I don't go making male friends if I'm married and he shouldn't go making female friends. If the friends were there before me, I really can't stop it unless they're acting shady or something like the OP said. And the same thing goes for me obviously. Casual acquaintances from work or neighbours are fine. But actual new hang out friends? That's a little too close for my taste.
So if you get married at 18 and spend 50-60 years with your husband, Neither of you are allowed to make new friends of the opposite sex? How is that healthy? How are "old friends" even safer than "new friends"? Why can't a man be friends with a woman? What about gay people, would that mean that you can't be friends with Anyone just in case?? All my new friends (men or women) Know I'm married, meet my husband, and vice versa, if one of us is uncomfortable about it, we say it to each other and take that into account. If anything, it's old friends that had feelings years ago that we've ever had problems with, and we fixed those easily as a couple - with telling those "old friends" clear boundaries and then breaking off a friendship if/when those were broken.
I feel like men and women are capable of having a platonic friendship,with nothing inappropriate going on;However, I do believe that men and women can't be friends without the male or female having an attraction or having an interest. If a female is friends with a guy, chances are he is interested in her or vice versa. If the door opened for them to be more than friends, chances are he would hop on that opportunity or she would . I think it's rare for men an women to be just friends with no attraction or interest involved on one, or both ends. I personally wouldn't want my mate to have female friends, but I also feel like it's unfair for him to cut off all his female friends, without a valid reason;however, I need to meet this woman, and join them in their outings and if a boundary is overstepped, then that is the end of that friendship. The moment she crosses the line, it's a wrap for their friendship. It's not a insecure, or controlling thing, it's a respect thing. Friends of your need to become friends of ours and she needs to remain and stay respectful. I need to be aware of all female friends, and I need to meet them. Having too many female friends is a problem as well. let's keep it to an extreme minimum.
I don't agree at all. This is like saying that because I'm a lesbian, if I'm friends with another lesbian we can't be friends because one of us will end up liking the other. So in a sense, I can't have any female friends! I'm sorry, but there are some people you just aren't attracted to! I don't find every lesbian I interact with attractive. It doesn't matter how close or friendly you become, there are some people you just won't be attracted to and nothing will change that!
@@daynishcosplay you proved her point. She said one of the other will be interested. So if you don't like them... Do a test and suggest hooking up with them, see what they do.
Friends of the opposite gender is something the older generations didn't tolerate and I agree. It invites danger. This sentiment does not make anyone petty or insecure. Its just certain boundaries you dont play with. Now, none of us can help who we grew up with cause friends from way before you met your spouse can be like "family". So here's the deal with that. I dont see nothing wrong with catching up but most people have their own lives and aint got time for anything more than a 20 minute session at a party or bump-into. Get your hug, reminisce, and keep it pushing.
I see where Tamar is coming from. I am sure she is very secure in what she has with Vince and the problem could be that she trusts him, but not other woman. If I had a boyfriend/husband and he had female friends, it is his responsibility to respect me enough to at least introduce me to them or let me know who they are. I don't need to go out with you all the time, but because I love and trust you......IM WATCHING THEM LIKE A VULTURE STALKING HIS SUPPER BOO!
idk if you remember her saying this, but Vince was also dating someone while dating her eariler in their relationship. I dont think it was a cheating thing I just think they werent exclusive which makes her know he is capable of dating more than one person.
ashbnemi True. Vince was dating someone but you only told half of the story. Vince did NOT tell Tamar he was dating someone else she found out about through multiple sources. She confronted Vince... he then tried to explain... she broke it off with him and did not talk to Vince until they were broken up officially. Vince admitted he kept it from Tamar b/c according to him the relationship had run it's course and he was going to break it off . Tamar had no knowledge of Vinces gf.
***** I'm sorry, I don't agree with you but I appreciate your opinion. Just curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to but are you speaking from experience? I've never been in a relationship so I can only hope I would be treated that way by someone and I know I will. I wouldn't stay with someone who can't be honest with me in every form.
***** I never considered that, I know my parents both have friends of the opposite sex and they share most if not everything with eachother. My parents still speak to eachother about things and they are fine. Many people in Hollywood act and have no attachment to costars, if they are truly respectful of their spouses they would never let that get so far. This is all about respect at the end of the day. Women can display the same behaviour too.
I agree with Tamar to an instant because I feel like if I'm married to you boo you don't need anymore female friends, we're glued for life, I'm your only friend "No New Friends" but then on the other hand I feel like if my husband had a female friend & they grew up together & it's never been any mutual or relationship feelings. Ya Know?! I wouldn't mind if they remain friends because that's his childhood buddy & that wouldn't be right for me to try to destroy that friendship over my insecurities.
You cannot dictate who a person is friends with, that's what children are for and why so many relationships fail holding onto a person so tight that you're the only female friend in his life is NOT going to keep him from cheating and the idea that you'd want to be with someone who you can control and influence so easily speaks more about you than anything that he could hypothetically do. We as women need to realize people are going to do what they want to no matter how close to home you try to keep them!!!
Why be so possessive over your husband/significant other? If a person(you) can see his amazing qualities, other people are going to notice too. Now some people do just want to be a home wrecker, but there are defiantly people who have a friends of the opposite gender & love them like a friend or even family! Your significant other wouldn't be the person you love(romantically) if they didn't/couldn't have those people(of opposite gender) in there life, ei: long term friends, co workers, childhood friends, or even new/short term friends that just made an impact on their lives
It's a hard thing to be a man's friend. I had this guy that I absolutely adored. He hit on me. I found out be was married. I had to shut it down because the attraction boundaries had been crossed. I hate I didn't know right away he was married. All I kept thinking is that it could have been a great friendship. as great as a person he is for conversation and meeting of the minds I know that it would be a time where he wants more than a friendship. It's sad men and women can't be friends. Women need men for platonic friendships. they offer something very different than your female friends. But it's very difficult because we have been raised for the pursuit of relationships and intimacy. Many are not taught that it's ok to be friends with the opposite sex and nothing more. So I would say no to my man because people are human and mistakes happen even for a person who you seem as trust worthy.
I have never been friends with a guy even when I was single. It always turns into something more. Men will pursue you, especially if you're pretty. Friendships are incredibly intimate. I just never go that route.
Didn't Jeannie say not so long ago that she wants her husband to have more female friends? But that if he cheats, there's a clause in their prenup/postnup that says the victim gets $$ from the cheater? So.. is she trying to set herself up for getting cheated on?
I always say that you have to build a friendship first, and then work on becoming something more. From experience, it always takes a turns for the worst if you don't see the person's true colors until after the relationship becomes exclusive. I've been on both ends. I had a best friend that some of my exes didn't like or trust; and it was definitely an uphill battle trying to get them to understand that my best friend was nothing more than that. I've also dated people who had close friends that I didn't like or trust as well. Sadly, things like that can make or break a relationship.
It's so weird watching this now after Jeannie's ex's new woman proclaimed that she and Jeannie's ex were friends for 8 years, yet Jeannie had no idea about it. the new woman also proclaims that she was there for him emotionally during rough times between his and Jeannie's marriage and that she would always "side" with Jeannie during such conversations. So while, yes, Jeannie did file for the divorce, and her ex (per his new woman) was reportedly devastated over the split, Jeannie is quoted in this episode as, "don't cheat on me emotionally. if he had a female friend, I would need to have every conversation about me with me in the room" and that there would be a rule that he isn't allowed to talk about their marriage to her.. yet her ex husband broke that so there clearly were secrets being kept. We aren't all angels and something was lacking in his life, but it's evident that it wasn't handled properly and honestly. It's just really sad to me to see how much things can change in only a matter of a couple years and even less
It's best to stay away from opposite sex friendships, if you are someone in a relationship that you say you love, or you're married. I have heard so much discussion about platonic friendships, it is certain that a man's mind will go to a place where it's not supposed to be, and I also believe that's true for the woman, even though they will not admit it. Your platonic male friend is most likely checking you out, and men.. don't fool yourself, your platonic female friend is already checked you out. Their minds will go to the same places. Stay safe, and stay away from platonic friendships.
And this is probably why I agree more with Tamar & Tamera. Adrienne at this point was with lenny talking about falling in love with a friend. and BOOM months later Israel surfaces(a mutual friend of both Adrienne and lenny) and I just don't trust it. Somebody always ends up liking somebody. or so it seems...
LMAO...you make a comment to my opinion and don't like my response? Bahahah...oh my, this is too funny. The age has nothing to do with the comment lady. What the hell? It's a point that you're sitting there running your mouth about a strangers life or relationship when you're just a girlfriend. Even if you don't want to get married, I personally don't care! I don't get online replying to opinions that I disagree with, especially saying anything personal or trying to be superior. No keep it simple and move on. Don't post something you know nothing about. That was the point of the response, not age!!!!!!! Thanks for cracking me up though. HAHAHAHAHAH
+MisguidedWaves, I use to think just like you. Until a man cheated on me and tore my heart out. And then I realized I was wrong. I agree with them now; if you want to be with me but want female friends then I better know them too, sorry not sorry.
I respect your opinion as well. I hope that one day despite whats been done to me I can have the same understanding that you have. :) And yes +Blah blah blah, I wasn't talking to you...
+MisguidedWaves all i see is you trying to make yourself feel superior in some way. youre still on equal footing with the rest of us, you just live a different life. if
Meagan Valle Well if you think about it. No one is ever with you. We are all technically alone at all times even when another human being is inside you. To love means to fancy or to enjoy deeply. Just like I can love to play on my cousins Xbox but the Xbox isn’t mine just because I love it. Everyone is in a relationship with somebody in its literal definition unless you were born in solitude captivity and even then you technically have a relationship with your mother who you’ve never really knew in that case but relationship in its definition is to be in relation to someone or something so yes even then you’re in a relationship with your mom. In that case it’d be estranged mother and son/daughter. My relationship with that girl who works with me at my job site is known as coworker.
Why do you have to control grown people ? If you , or your spouse have friends of the opposite sex then just get to know them . If you know your spouse then what are you worried about . You know exactly who you have ; if you're that worried , then you forced a bad relationship to begin with .
My husband has plenty of female friends and I have plenty of make friends, but we've both met them all. We know the boundaries and I trust him. If I was getting a vibe from a woman like she wanted to get romantic with him then she and I have a problem ( knowing my man he'd be oblivious lol).
The one thing I Will not stand for is My man being "friends" with any of his ex's or past flings..I kicked one guy to the curb so fast for that BS he don't know what happened! Lol When a man is truly in l i 've with you he let's all of that BS go and his REAL friends become your friends too!
Why do you people say that. It takes two to cheat. If you trust your man you won't worry about trusting other women. I don't think the women is just going to rape him he has to play a part.
I have a lot of platonic relationships. A lot of them with single guys if I think about it. But, knowing myself , there's nothing my boyfriend needs to worry about. (Vice versa) I guess its the trust factor.
Honestly when I get married I want me and my husband to have friends BUT friends that are Married or in a relationship ... Unless he has a best friend that I know everything of he can slide... At the end of the day you can't stop a man from cheating no matter what.. And sadly that's the truth...
Some of these comments r extremely insecure and immature..ur man will do whatever he wants..nothing u can do. Saying u r ur man's only female friend is ridiculous.
Point of correction those are their standards. It's not being immature. It's knowing what you can or cannot take. Knowing where to draw the line. If you accept anything that's on you. Don't complain. For them they will not accept unnecessary female friends if she has to be his only female friend so be it. If he can do that and he loves her still well and good. But not setting boundaries is what causes heartbreak where you expect someone to behave a certain but you have not expressed your requests or standards for the relationship. That is what causes break ups. Thinking he knows what you want without telling him. How do you know he is not willing to change or fix the problem until you express yourself. And if after you have expressed yourself and he does nothing then he doesn't care about you and why would you want to be withtgat kind of man?
I think that if my man had a female friend before I came into the picture, then I could deal with that. She'd have to know that there will be boundaries though. But if he befriends a female while we're together, I'd have a major problem lol.
Yes!! Honestly my thing is yes sometimes those friends may have feelings or develop feelings you never know and things happen. I would rather not put temptation in the path because we are human and therefore fall short so I will sit right there with him and his female friend like what's up. I don't think that's insecure, that's being smart. S*** happens. Best intentions can and has gone south.
that's insecurity if your honestly thinking again and again that he's gonna cheat or she's not trustworthy. not every person is gonna back stab you in life. that's a personal problem
+Jackie Montrose I never said they were guaranteed to do so, I said it could happen. I would just rather know a the facts just in case. Sometimes people do trust a lot and something is really going on. I'm not saying go around always thinking something is going on or they're cheating but dont be ignorant either
I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I completely agree with Tamar! Not that I'm insecure or anything but you just can't be having one-on-one time with any females BUT me or ya mama! Period. If we're in a relationship, I'M the only friend you need! lol
Except that IS an insecurity and everyone needs close friends outside of their relationship. You're trying to regulate their friendships because you don't trust them. It's an insecurity.
***** No, it's just you misunderstanding biology. Almost anything is possible given the right circumstances, however the probability of people being attracted or doing something simply because they're heterosexual and of opposite sexes isn't high...especially when they're not compatible with one another in personality, appearance, etc. You can live in this fear of "what if...", but it's just a product of your own insecurities and trust issues. If your partner is going to cheat, then they're going to cheat. You trying to regulate their friendships isn't going to stop that. And that's a fact.
I use to always have mixed feeling about platonic friendships but they do exist!! I have known a lot of males my entire life and have not felt like I wanted anything more. Were just friends! I have friends whose girlfriends were comfortable around me because we shared one thing in common (Respect) and they know I will get my friends straight! However, I know that us females can come with the best bag of tricks, but I will never hold them accountable if my significant other know their place. I think its the trust factor in relationships. I do think its possible for Men to be friends with females and I think its possible for feelings/motives/cheating to take place too. But I guess it all plays out with the dynamics of your relationship.
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All you women will have one,some and more sooner or later because you never know when your relationships will end and every guy has but is still in the friend zone
***** see that's what I was saying all you females have backup niggas just in case your relationship nor marriage goes bad. Gees, I learned that from Chris Rock,which awakened me (lol)
My husband doesn't need female friends. What's the point ? If he wants to hang with a friend he has his guy friends for that. There's only one reason a woman would be hangin around ur man and that's to snag him for herself.
My simple answer to that is this.....If we're married YOU are suppose to be my friend AND my lover! Why do i need to seek out friends in other places when you should be that friend for me. Ofcourse you will have your friends before marriage (Whom your partner should have already met anyway) and work friends i understand as well but you not going out to dinner with JUST that person on no regular, HELL no. And that's not being insecure that just doesn't make sense to me 0_0....Unless you will like that person is giving up something that you aren't getting from ME AND The friends your already had WHICH IS A PROBLEM!!!!! lol
I'm actually surprised by a lot of the comments. We're in the 21st century and some women really can't handle their man being friends with another woman then claim to not to be jealous or insecure. If you tried telling me who I can and can't be friends with, I would dump you on the spot and go hang out with whoever I want
I 1000% agree with Tamar. I will not allow my man to have female friends and I will not have male friends. And he agrees with me. Not friends of the opposite sex for either one of us
I just don't think that a married couple, and for both sides, should have and single friends of the opposite sex. If you're gonna play the "I've known them since forever" card, then let your friends become my friends and yours mind. The only way it will works if everybody is friends. But even still even if your spouse is trustworthy, many people who claim to be your friends aren't. I agree with Tamar because I just don't see how it the relationship can be just platonic because someone always gets attached, especially when they're in need of something they aren't getting from their spouse.
Men and women can be platonic. Im not about to micro manage my man like that. Women can be scandalous so his friends will know me and I will know their info. None of this will stop him cheating. I have male friends and I don't want them for anything but as that and they will meet him. Insecurities will mess up the best of relationships.
like why you gotta be so insecure , why did you marry him at the first place ?? if a man wanted to cheat on your ass , be damn sure he's gon' do it baby girl , you don't have to "watch" him.
There's no point to have a female friend though!! you can have your guy friends why you got to have a female if you got a wife ?? its not about being insecure its about respecting your wife or girlfriends feelings/wishes and for no bullshit to put up with. Like what happens if she starts falling for him or becomes one of those crazy female that brings drama to your relationship ! duh
No female friends for him... Then no male friend for her. That's just too controlling. Don't get married if you're gonna have suspicions or be worried about your spouse having intimate relations with their friends of the opposite sex.
Why would they HAVE to be friends with their man’s female friend if they believe that guys and girls can have a platonic relationship? If it was a guy/guy friendship, they wouldnt care as much
I actually ended up asking my man to keep his distance from this one friend he got who's really emotionally needy. I'm like girl go get your own man to confide in 😒 Plus in regards to him I'm like, you already got a female friend--me lol
ButterGirlsCurls Ink I had to train my man! and he's still not fully trained bc he has a lot of female friends! too many! I'm not trying to liken him to a dog, but every relationship needs boundaries. It doesn't matter if you think it's stupid or unfair, they need to be respected by both parties and if you can't do that, then you don't need to be in that relationship.
This just solidified my stance; heifers are sneaky; when you know he's taken and you doing stuff like that, it's a problem. Like nah she better go on somewhere 💯
I believe that to have a real relationship with my significant other, I would have to trust him enough to let him have his own friends. If I truly love him, wouldn’t keep him on a leash.
it's not right how people are quick to call it insecurity >_< ..yes, no matter what a man is gonna cheat if he wants to but why open that opportunity by letting him have a female friend?! Your trusting them and then next thing you know the one he cheated w/ was her -_- then you look dumb for even trusting it in the first place...the only woman a man should be spending time w/ is his wife/girlfriend...what do you need another female for?! That's how relationships work...if you have a problem w/ your wife you go to her! You don't air out your dirty laundry to another woman, it doesn't solve anything
Personally, I feel that there should be no question of male-female friendships once a person is married. Meaning, the inner circle should have changed. Of course not all of your friends will be married but that just means you should be hanging with single friends less and less (male or female) Therefore, you lessen the possibilities of infidelity. At the same time, you should be mindful of how much time is being spent with married friends as well! Everything in moderation. Marriage is a sacred union between two ppl with God at the center. That is all. Just how I feel about that.
My platonic love in high school is now, 6 years later, my bf and we are gonna get married lol So yes you can fall in love love with our platonic loves :)
There is always that chance that that friend could become something more even after y'all are not together anymore, and tbh that would bother tf outta me.
I agree with Tamara. Is she married? single? What is her motive? Believe it or not ladies, there are a LOT of sketchy people out there who do not care if your man is married or in a relationship. And vice versa. If she is single and they are going to be hanging out alone, I personally don't see how that it okay, but maybe that is just me being insecure.
I don't think that is insecurity. There is nothing wrong with setting boundaries for both people in a relationship. It should go both ways though of course. Even if a relationship starts off as friendship, it is natural that it can turn into emotional intimacy and progress further from there. Doesn't meant they can't have friends of the opposite sex, but there needs to be boundaries and I think both people in the marriage need to know the other person and there always needs to be honest communication.
I think what Tamar said about somebody always likes somebody is kind of true from what I have seen. Somebody will like someone in a friendship if there are no boundaries such as do not spend too much time with him/her because that space that somebody is taking in my opinion was naturally designed for a spouse (if you want to get married of course). So your body does not know how to tell which one it is a friend, or a spouse and that's where things can get a little tricky and difficult especially if you can not be with him or her for some reason. That's just my opinion but I am still a teenager so I am still not sure if guys and girls can just be friends when there are boundaries lol. Life will tell.
Jeannie isn't being controlling-airing grievances about your significant other to another person outside of a relationship can create a certain kind of intimacy, which can lead to cheating.
From the age of 18-28 ive had neighbor male friends that i smoked joints with and they eventually started to fall for me when I didn't feel the same about them nor did I even try to come on to them for I was a virgin. It always ends bad and broken
Everything they’re saying based around insecurity. The reason being is that they know that men and women have underlying unspoken bonds that fall outside of friendship, whether it be acknowledged or not. Platonic love is not romantic love. No one would be as committed to a friend as they would their partner. You live with, share life, have children and grow old with a partner. It’s a different bond. So yeh, women and men can be friends but only if they’re 100% honest with each other and themselves - including telling the other person you have feelings for them
@3:11 Jeannie says that her and Freddie are bound for life. Currently, she says she always knew they would divorce. Funny how people try to minimize an old love to feel certain about a new love.
Wow, talk about hypocrisy. You know what people call it when a man forbids his partner from having other male friends? Yeah, they call that domestic abuse.
The people that won't or can't create boundaries in their relationships are 100% going to end up divorced, in an open relationship, or just unhappy. Yes, if someone wants to cheat they will regardless of whether they have girl friends or not, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't set boundaries with your spouse. And no, I don't have male friends outside of my marriage and I expect the same from my husband. No double standard, I just don't feel it is appropriate. If he has female friends, they need to meet me, they don't need to be texting him or calling him for small talk, and they definitely don't need to be discussing our relationship. Period.
I'm sure we all remeber the video where Jeanie said she wishes her husband will make more female friends. And that she is always on his case about make more female friends....so now she is saying something completely deferent. I'm confused
Well I’m bi so am I not allowed to have any friends?! My ex had a lot of female friends and I knew that he talked to them about me, but I really didn’t care cause I talked about him with my female and male friends and I trusted him💁🏻♀️ He always treated me right and he is only my ex because he had to move to another country
Don't you be telling people or "friends" your issues in your relationships because they will use it against you in so many ways it's unreal!! I mean we all talk but there is a thin thin line that must be drawn with anybody other than your significant other I can vouch for that just like many others that have learned along the way, it comes with growth
When you are more mature those insecure feelings become less significant. Tamar was at least honest and called her own self out. I think childhood friends and longtime friends should be accepted. Those new ones need to be friends to both husband and wife.
First of all if I was the best friend of a guy who's married, has a girlfriend, or is engaged, i would have to keep my distance. Its seems.unfortunate but it would be the best decision so I don't have to deal with jealousy or her making.suspicions about what may be.happening. I just want to avoid turmoil. Also with us being best friends it's okay for her to be aware of my being but she doesn't need to know nothing about me or what motives she think I have.
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ya do know that if someone wants to cheat on you they gonna cheat on you either way right.
yeah but a stranger is one thing. a family member or friend is just a whole mess of fucked up.
+MisguidedWaves also why is insecurity a bad thing to women. you all treat insecurities as if they were a disease and anyone who has any is below you as a human being last time i checked there are plenty of incredible people with insecurities. also it doesnt matter how you do your relationship let them do theirs, their own way. the only person who seems bitter is girls who love pointing out insecurities in other women like it makes them better in some way.
+MisguidedWaves ignorance. when you and your sig. other have an issue where do you think they are gonna go running
+MisguidedWaves ignorance is an insult? it means lack of knowledge in a certain aspect of life. i had a lady friend that fell in love with me and wanted to leave her bf for me. it blindsided me. i didn't lead her on but i listened to her at the same time respect her relationship. it was enough for her to fall for me. i never touched her. it happens. fact.
BiohazardBeauty
Because insecurities are usually toxic. I never said I was perfect. I've had them, but I got away from that life, and not have a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. So no, I'm NOT naive, or ignorant as Gabriel wants to call me. To each their own, I guess. I know that my relationship is good, and i don't have to explain myself to anyone. Take care, guys. Lol
3 years later and turns out Freddie was emotionally cheating with a woman who said she wasn't friends with Jeannie at all.. damn
I bet she thinks like Tamar now LMAO.
MiddleEye how is that something to laugh at? Smh
@@bambi7563 cause the irony is so fucking funny. Tamar might ahve been too raw with her words but she was real.
Jeannie is just plain fake.
sansaery the irony right.
sansaery well she should have taken care of home. He really wanted a family and she’s a narcissist so🤷🏾♂️
Adrienne looks FIREEEE! omg her hair and makeup are to die !
yes!
Agree!!
i love this hair style especially on her!
She alwaysssss lookin bomb
+Nellah Grace I was thinking the same thing about Adrienne. She is so stunning.
This is really good to hear actually. I dated a guy when I was 20 who was a chef and had a lot of female coworkers. I was ok with that. One of them even flirted with him and I was ok with that. But then he told me he was taking a few of them out to the only 21+ strip club in town, refused to change the place so that I could come too, and spent hundreds of dollars buying them drinks. And I was supposed to be ok with that, knowing that one of these women he was getting drunk had already hit on him. And he had the balls to yell at ME for "ruining his whole night" by calling him and asking him if he made it home at 3am. So glad I got away from that abusive fuckface..
I hope you find someone better.
you seem like a person that is really down to earth and has boundaries but still has a head on your shoulders. i hope you find someone better
Thank y'all :) Maybe someday
I was reading your comment and kept thinking to myself "OMG... I hope this ends well!" =\. I'm glad you're not with him anymore!!
girl you turn up on him. but I'm happy you had the strength to walk away
I'm in love with Adrienne's look in this episode😍
Tamar don't nobody want Vince!!!!!!!lol
right!😂
+kenda wyatt Except low down thursty trick Loni.
some women definitely want him.he may not be attractive but hi$ wallet I$
There are other men with money if not more to be exact. I stand by "don't nobody want Vince" lol
Exactly 😂😂😂 she acts like he's Americas top model
3:11 When Jeannie said "me and Freddie we're bound for life" 😢💔 so sad
Alyazia M not necessarily sad. Marriage isn't the only thing that binds people for life
😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-rx1eo4ob7z hehehe you're watching old videos of the Real as well. Lool Freddie cheating and all with HIS female friend😂😂
BiiMesiah tehehehee yessss sus
She shouldn’t have cheated on him ...
I think that there should be an exception made for childhood friends or best friends because sometimes they're basically family
Exactly I've been friends with a guy since 5th grade we love each other. We're family.
Yeah I agree with that too because those friendships were formed before we all hit puberty, before hormones developed and before we could be attracted to them. But if you're a girl and you met guys at work or at high school, you're friends with them for reasons that could lead you to becoming more than just friends. This is just what I think. ❤
@@devikaishoney6456 that's true but not everyone like that
@@soulikarus facts
I agree but if the “friend” “doesn’t like me” or doesn’t try to become friends at all, there’s definitely feelings there.
I'm with Tamar on this one. It's not about being insecure or petty, but it is about respect for your spouse. Once you are married, any friends of the opposite sex should be family friends of the couple and that's it.
Amen
True, that is why I back away, and if I were dating a guy, I would end it out of respect for my old married friend so his wife could feel good knowing that no man would or could want me. Unless the woman was okay with me being in a dating. I am not sure how women who are in a relationship feel about a woman being single and then meeting a single man and getting into a relationship with her. I am all about respect, and if my being single makes women feel respected, then I can be single forever.
AMEN SISTER. I knew I wasn’t the only one with the same thoughts. 🤙💯💯❤️
I'm with Tam and Adrienne, I would like to know who the girl is and she needs to know about me. I'm not going to tell you who you can and can't be friends with. If you don't have trust in a relationship, then what are you doing? It just looks shady if you're hiding her from me and vice versa.
she wrong for that telling Tamar her wig bout to falling off out loud ...lmao shade
fact
Yes!!! lol But you know why she said that right? She was slick mad because Tamar said no female friends for Vince lol You're OUR friend bih!!!!! LOL
She jokes/insults her like that because she feels jealousy towards Tomar and has a crush on Tomars husband
thats how you know Loni really disliked Tamar. P.B.P!!
EXACTLY !! THAT WAS WRONG !! LOL!!
To be honest if anyone tried to tell me who I could and couldn't be friends with I'd break up with the person immediately
devilshomie look at the comment section 😂😂😂😂😂
devilshomie it has nothing to do with that it’s about being cautious
devilshomie that’s why your name is devils homie.
I’m the same way. I don’t tell my man who he can and can’t be friends with, don’t tell me or that’ll be the end.
You can be friends with whom ever just make sure your significant other at least knows the person.
1,000% agree, when you're MARRIED there's no reason to hang out alone with someone who isn't, unless it's a group situation. You shouldn't even feel the need to. End of story and Amen Tay tay.
Completely agree with Tamar!!
Yes, you can absolutely fall in love w/o having sex with somebody. That's the best way anyway. A man or a woman can have sex with anybody, but a true heart and soul connection is what makes it last. Agreed w/ Adrienne & Tamera. Your man should come to you with anything (rather than a female friend). I don't think a man would appreciate his woman going to another man (friend) for emotional support either. This is a great conversation.
No a real man unless he is gay cant fall in love without having sex are you kidding me. Unless your Gay or unless you are 2 girls or 2 guys. There is noway in hell a straight guy can fall in love with a attractive woman without wanting more. You ladies say you can cause you women believe because of what you have that we want controlls us like that. Reality check hun It doesnt. You get a confident man who isnt afraid to walk away he wont tolerate that way of thinking nope
Amen sis preach
Delusional
😂 All these women are super delusional. There isn't a platonic friendship between guys and girls fullstop 🛑! If you really don't think so then I dare you to call your so called friend and say I'm h*rnt wanna 💥 ect.. Wanna come over ect
Loni lowkey be trying it with her Vince comments lol
bruh she needs to slow down! lol
She brings him up in every show
Yeah nobody found that comment she made to be funny. It wasn't funny
Monica Browne I was NOT talking about Tamar. I implied that the comment LONI made about Vince wasn't funny.... What are you talking about
Alexa Isaac it never is. Body language tells it all. Tamar even says she's insecure so every time Loni comments on Vince she gives her this look before fake laughing.
If my spouse's friends were there before me, I really can't stop that friendship unless they are crossing boundaries but new female friends are unacceptable.
So your saying you can have male friends even if your with someone? So that would go for you also. Your so called just male friends before you met him are ok? YA right. And that also means you cant get new male friends either. Fair is fair
@@SportsLiveInTheAtl yeah? That's exactly what it means? I don't go making male friends if I'm married and he shouldn't go making female friends. If the friends were there before me, I really can't stop it unless they're acting shady or something like the OP said. And the same thing goes for me obviously. Casual acquaintances from work or neighbours are fine. But actual new hang out friends? That's a little too close for my taste.
So if you get married at 18 and spend 50-60 years with your husband, Neither of you are allowed to make new friends of the opposite sex? How is that healthy? How are "old friends" even safer than "new friends"? Why can't a man be friends with a woman? What about gay people, would that mean that you can't be friends with Anyone just in case??
All my new friends (men or women) Know I'm married, meet my husband, and vice versa, if one of us is uncomfortable about it, we say it to each other and take that into account. If anything, it's old friends that had feelings years ago that we've ever had problems with, and we fixed those easily as a couple - with telling those "old friends" clear boundaries and then breaking off a friendship if/when those were broken.
Tay Tay I like your honesty. Many women don't want to admit being insecure and petty when it comes to their man. I'm right there with you!!
I feel like men and women are capable of having a platonic friendship,with nothing inappropriate going on;However, I do believe that men and women can't be friends without the male or female having an attraction or having an interest. If a female is friends with a guy, chances are he is interested in her or vice versa. If the door opened for them to be more than friends, chances are he would hop on that opportunity or she would . I think it's rare for men an women to be just friends with no attraction or interest involved on one, or both ends. I personally wouldn't want my mate to have female friends, but I also feel like it's unfair for him to cut off all his female friends, without a valid reason;however, I need to meet this woman, and join them in their outings and if a boundary is overstepped, then that is the end of that friendship. The moment she crosses the line, it's a wrap for their friendship. It's not a insecure, or controlling thing, it's a respect thing. Friends of your need to become friends of ours and she needs to remain and stay respectful. I need to be aware of all female friends, and I need to meet them. Having too many female friends is a problem as well. let's keep it to an extreme minimum.
well said...
I don't agree at all. This is like saying that because I'm a lesbian, if I'm friends with another lesbian we can't be friends because one of us will end up liking the other. So in a sense, I can't have any female friends! I'm sorry, but there are some people you just aren't attracted to! I don't find every lesbian I interact with attractive. It doesn't matter how close or friendly you become, there are some people you just won't be attracted to and nothing will change that!
@@daynishcosplay you proved her point. She said one of the other will be interested. So if you don't like them... Do a test and suggest hooking up with them, see what they do.
You just proved their illogical...They are a no no
yall aren't real friends if the guy wants to have sex.
You're basically using his time and passive advances but never giving him none.
Friends of the opposite gender is something the older generations didn't tolerate and I agree. It invites danger. This sentiment does not make anyone petty or insecure. Its just certain boundaries you dont play with. Now, none of us can help who we grew up with cause friends from way before you met your spouse can be like "family". So here's the deal with that. I dont see nothing wrong with catching up but most people have their own lives and aint got time for anything more than a 20 minute session at a party or bump-into. Get your hug, reminisce, and keep it pushing.
I see where Tamar is coming from. I am sure she is very secure in what she has with Vince and the problem could be that she trusts him, but not other woman. If I had a boyfriend/husband and he had female friends, it is his responsibility to respect me enough to at least introduce me to them or let me know who they are. I don't need to go out with you all the time, but because I love and trust you......IM WATCHING THEM LIKE A VULTURE STALKING HIS SUPPER BOO!
idk if you remember her saying this, but Vince was also dating someone while dating her eariler in their relationship. I dont think it was a cheating thing I just think they werent exclusive which makes her know he is capable of dating more than one person.
ashbnemi True. Vince was dating someone but you only told half of the story. Vince did NOT tell Tamar he was dating someone else she found out about through multiple sources. She confronted Vince... he then tried to explain... she broke it off with him and did not talk to Vince until they were broken up officially. Vince admitted he kept it from Tamar b/c according to him the relationship had run it's course and he was going to break it off . Tamar had no knowledge of Vinces gf.
***** and this is accurate for all men in the world?
***** I'm sorry, I don't agree with you but I appreciate your opinion. Just curious, you don't have to answer if you don't want to but are you speaking from experience? I've never been in a relationship so I can only hope I would be treated that way by someone and I know I will. I wouldn't stay with someone who can't be honest with me in every form.
***** I never considered that, I know my parents both have friends of the opposite sex and they share most if not everything with eachother. My parents still speak to eachother about things and they are fine. Many people in Hollywood act and have no attachment to costars, if they are truly respectful of their spouses they would never let that get so far. This is all about respect at the end of the day. Women can display the same behaviour too.
The best part is Tamar didn't give a reason. She just stated her take. Lol
Well hey she admitted to her being petty and insecure
I agree with Tamar to an instant because I feel like if I'm married to you boo you don't need anymore female friends, we're glued for life, I'm your only friend "No New Friends" but then on the other hand I feel like if my husband had a female friend & they grew up together & it's never been any mutual or relationship feelings. Ya Know?! I wouldn't mind if they remain friends because that's his childhood buddy & that wouldn't be right for me to try to destroy that friendship over my insecurities.
I agree 100%
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Tany Britt I agree with you.
You cannot dictate who a person is friends with, that's what children are for and why so many relationships fail holding onto a person so tight that you're the only female friend in his life is NOT going to keep him from cheating and the idea that you'd want to be with someone who you can control and influence so easily speaks more about you than anything that he could hypothetically do. We as women need to realize people are going to do what they want to no matter how close to home you try to keep them!!!
insecure
Well Tamar pretty much sums it up for me
Why be so possessive over your husband/significant other? If a person(you) can see his amazing qualities, other people are going to notice too. Now some people do just want to be a home wrecker, but there are defiantly people who have a friends of the opposite gender & love them like a friend or even family! Your significant other wouldn't be the person you love(romantically) if they didn't/couldn't have those people(of opposite gender) in there life, ei: long term friends, co workers, childhood friends, or even new/short term friends that just made an impact on their lives
Loni would yell on national tv that your wig is about to fall off
It's a hard thing to be a man's friend. I had this guy that I absolutely adored. He hit on me. I found out be was married. I had to shut it down because the attraction boundaries had been crossed. I hate I didn't know right away he was married. All I kept thinking is that it could have been a great friendship. as great as a person he is for conversation and meeting of the minds I know that it would be a time where he wants more than a friendship. It's sad men and women can't be friends. Women need men for platonic friendships. they offer something very different than your female friends. But it's very difficult because we have been raised for the pursuit of relationships and intimacy. Many are not taught that it's ok to be friends with the opposite sex and nothing more. So I would say no to my man because people are human and mistakes happen even for a person who you seem as trust worthy.
I have never been friends with a guy even when I was single. It always turns into something more. Men will pursue you, especially if you're pretty. Friendships are incredibly intimate. I just never go that route.
Didn't Jeannie say not so long ago that she wants her husband to have more female friends? But that if he cheats, there's a clause in their prenup/postnup that says the victim gets $$ from the cheater? So.. is she trying to set herself up for getting cheated on?
I always say that you have to build a friendship first, and then work on becoming something more. From experience, it always takes a turns for the worst if you don't see the person's true colors until after the relationship becomes exclusive.
I've been on both ends. I had a best friend that some of my exes didn't like or trust; and it was definitely an uphill battle trying to get them to understand that my best friend was nothing more than that. I've also dated people who had close friends that I didn't like or trust as well. Sadly, things like that can make or break a relationship.
Loni to Tamar: Your wig about to fall off 💀😂😂😂
Many thanks #TheReal for giving us 2 fairly long clips of girl chat. It is very much appreciated when you live outside the US.
It's so weird watching this now after Jeannie's ex's new woman proclaimed that she and Jeannie's ex were friends for 8 years, yet Jeannie had no idea about it. the new woman also proclaims that she was there for him emotionally during rough times between his and Jeannie's marriage and that she would always "side" with Jeannie during such conversations. So while, yes, Jeannie did file for the divorce, and her ex (per his new woman) was reportedly devastated over the split, Jeannie is quoted in this episode as, "don't cheat on me emotionally. if he had a female friend, I would need to have every conversation about me with me in the room" and that there would be a rule that he isn't allowed to talk about their marriage to her.. yet her ex husband broke that so there clearly were secrets being kept. We aren't all angels and something was lacking in his life, but it's evident that it wasn't handled properly and honestly. It's just really sad to me to see how much things can change in only a matter of a couple years and even less
It's best to stay away from opposite sex friendships, if you are someone in a relationship that you say you love, or you're married. I have heard so much discussion about platonic friendships, it is certain that a man's mind will go to a place where it's not supposed to be, and I also believe that's true for the woman, even though they will not admit it. Your platonic male friend is most likely checking you out, and men.. don't fool yourself, your platonic female friend is already checked you out. Their minds will go to the same places. Stay safe, and stay away from platonic friendships.
And this is probably why I agree more with Tamar & Tamera. Adrienne at this point was with lenny talking about falling in love with a friend. and BOOM months later Israel surfaces(a mutual friend of both Adrienne and lenny) and I just don't trust it. Somebody always ends up liking somebody. or so it seems...
I agree with Tamar.
LMAO...you make a comment to my opinion and don't like my response? Bahahah...oh my, this is too funny. The age has nothing to do with the comment lady. What the hell? It's a point that you're sitting there running your mouth about a strangers life or relationship when you're just a girlfriend. Even if you don't want to get married, I personally don't care! I don't get online replying to opinions that I disagree with, especially saying anything personal or trying to be superior. No keep it simple and move on. Don't post something you know nothing about. That was the point of the response, not age!!!!!!! Thanks for cracking me up though. HAHAHAHAHAH
+MisguidedWaves, I use to think just like you. Until a man cheated on me and tore my heart out. And then I realized I was wrong. I agree with them now; if you want to be with me but want female friends then I better know them too, sorry not sorry.
I respect your opinion as well. I hope that one day despite whats been done to me I can have the same understanding that you have. :) And yes +Blah blah blah, I wasn't talking to you...
+MisguidedWaves all i see is you trying to make yourself feel superior in some way. youre still on equal footing with the rest of us, you just live a different life. if
Meagan Valle Well if you think about it. No one is ever with you. We are all technically alone at all times even when another human being is inside you. To love means to fancy or to enjoy deeply. Just like I can love to play on my cousins Xbox but the Xbox isn’t mine just because I love it. Everyone is in a relationship with somebody in its literal definition unless you were born in solitude captivity and even then you technically have a relationship with your mother who you’ve never really knew in that case but relationship in its definition is to be in relation to someone or something so yes even then you’re in a relationship with your mom. In that case it’d be estranged mother and son/daughter. My relationship with that girl who works with me at my job site is known as coworker.
Why do you have to control grown people ? If you , or your spouse have friends of the opposite sex then just get to know them . If you know your spouse then what are you worried about . You know exactly who you have ; if you're that worried , then you forced a bad relationship to begin with .
My husband has plenty of female friends and I have plenty of make friends, but we've both met them all. We know the boundaries and I trust him.
If I was getting a vibe from a woman like she wanted to get romantic with him then she and I have a problem ( knowing my man he'd be oblivious lol).
My man can't have female friends am sorry. I should be his number one friend. I agree with Tamar.
The one thing I Will not stand for is My man being "friends" with any of his ex's or past flings..I kicked one guy to the curb so fast for that BS he don't know what happened! Lol When a man is truly in l i 've with you he let's all of that BS go and his REAL friends become your friends too!
Why would I need a male friend when my mate is supposed to be my best friend? And vice versa? I trust him but not them.. Period!
Your "best friend" should not be your only friend. Period.
Why do you people say that. It takes two to cheat. If you trust your man you won't worry about trusting other women. I don't think the women is just going to rape him he has to play a part.
brett johnson i agree with you 110%.
MrThekidisback you have to trust that he will have enough self control to not do anything. But people just act as if the man plays no part.
brett johnson Yeah word I agree.
I think a heterosexual man and a woman can be friends without being attracted to each other.
You sir are absolutely correct!
I have a lot of platonic relationships. A lot of them with single guys if I think about it. But, knowing myself , there's nothing my boyfriend needs to worry about. (Vice versa) I guess its the trust factor.
Honestly when I get married I want me and my husband to have friends BUT friends that are Married or in a relationship ... Unless he has a best friend that I know everything of he can slide...
At the end of the day you can't stop a man from cheating no matter what.. And sadly that's the truth...
Some of these comments r extremely insecure and immature..ur man will do whatever he wants..nothing u can do. Saying u r ur man's only female friend is ridiculous.
illana mckenzie agreed, I read someone's comment and they basically said. Not having friends of the opposite sex is having respect for your spouse...🤔
Point of correction those are their standards. It's not being immature. It's knowing what you can or cannot take. Knowing where to draw the line. If you accept anything that's on you. Don't complain. For them they will not accept unnecessary female friends if she has to be his only female friend so be it. If he can do that and he loves her still well and good. But not setting boundaries is what causes heartbreak where you expect someone to behave a certain but you have not expressed your requests or standards for the relationship. That is what causes break ups. Thinking he knows what you want without telling him. How do you know he is not willing to change or fix the problem until you express yourself. And if after you have expressed yourself and he does nothing then he doesn't care about you and why would you want to be withtgat kind of man?
And there's something you can do you can leave
I think that if my man had a female friend before I came into the picture, then I could deal with that. She'd have to know that there will be boundaries though. But if he befriends a female while we're together, I'd have a major problem lol.
Yes!! Honestly my thing is yes sometimes those friends may have feelings or develop feelings you never know and things happen. I would rather not put temptation in the path because we are human and therefore fall short so I will sit right there with him and his female friend like what's up. I don't think that's insecure, that's being smart. S*** happens. Best intentions can and has gone south.
that's insecurity if your honestly thinking again and again that he's gonna cheat or she's not trustworthy. not every person is gonna back stab you in life. that's a personal problem
+Jackie Montrose I never said they were guaranteed to do so, I said it could happen. I would just rather know a the facts just in case. Sometimes people do trust a lot and something is really going on. I'm not saying go around always thinking something is going on or they're cheating but dont be ignorant either
"I'm insecure and petty as I don't know what, so..." 😭😂😂😂
I think Loni really does want Vince.
We don't own the people we are in a relationship with. If he wants to have female friends and her male friends, so be it.
I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I completely agree with Tamar! Not that I'm insecure or anything but you just can't be having one-on-one time with any females BUT me or ya mama! Period. If we're in a relationship, I'M the only friend you need! lol
Except that IS an insecurity and everyone needs close friends outside of their relationship. You're trying to regulate their friendships because you don't trust them. It's an insecurity.
***** No, it's just you misunderstanding biology. Almost anything is possible given the right circumstances, however the probability of people being attracted or doing something simply because they're heterosexual and of opposite sexes isn't high...especially when they're not compatible with one another in personality, appearance, etc. You can live in this fear of "what if...", but it's just a product of your own insecurities and trust issues. If your partner is going to cheat, then they're going to cheat. You trying to regulate their friendships isn't going to stop that. And that's a fact.
All I have to say is to pray. God can change things to the point where you're BOTH satisfied and happy.
Loni tried it with tamar
Molly Delfuego Yes she was. she was having an emotional affair with that man.
I use to always have mixed feeling about platonic friendships but they do exist!! I have known a lot of males my entire life and have not felt like I wanted anything more. Were just friends! I have friends whose girlfriends were comfortable around me because we shared one thing in common (Respect) and they know I will get my friends straight! However, I know that us females can come with the best bag of tricks, but I will never hold them accountable if my significant other know their place. I think its the trust factor in relationships. I do think its possible for Men to be friends with females and I think its possible for feelings/motives/cheating to take place too. But I guess it all plays out with the dynamics of your relationship.
All you women will have one,some and more sooner or later because you never know when your relationships will end and every guy has but is still in the friend zone
Mechacelzi I guess i understand...??
***** you have no platonic friends?
Mechacelzi
yea
***** see that's what I was saying all you females have backup niggas just in case your relationship nor marriage goes bad. Gees, I learned that from Chris Rock,which awakened me (lol)
Men are capable of falling in love too without having a sexual relationship with the person.
Nah
For sure
No they areent😒
Adirenne had the best response. I feel like her and Tamera are the only two who really feel secure in there relationships to be honest.
My husband doesn't need female friends. What's the point ? If he wants to hang with a friend he has his guy friends for that. There's only one reason a woman would be hangin around ur man and that's to snag him for herself.
amen child, theres absolutely nooooo reason for my man to be friends with another female.
ranya x so if there just friends and there not attracted to each other and your man is trust worthy you still wouldn't be comfortable?
Angie Freeman not all women are desperate to get a man lol what if she really doesn’t want one
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@Angie Freeman with that mentality i bet you've had a lot of breakups.
My simple answer to that is this.....If we're married YOU are suppose to be my friend AND my lover! Why do i need to seek out friends in other places when you should be that friend for me. Ofcourse you will have your friends before marriage (Whom your partner should have already met anyway) and work friends i understand as well but you not going out to dinner with JUST that person on no regular, HELL no. And that's not being insecure that just doesn't make sense to me 0_0....Unless you will like that person is giving up something that you aren't getting from ME AND The friends your already had WHICH IS A PROBLEM!!!!! lol
A man and woman can be friends as long as they not attracted to each other. Its like a brother and sister type relationship.
I'm actually surprised by a lot of the comments. We're in the 21st century and some women really can't handle their man being friends with another woman then claim to not to be jealous or insecure. If you tried telling me who I can and can't be friends with, I would dump you on the spot and go hang out with whoever I want
Louie Vanderhyde same here, read all of the comments now.
Louie Vanderhyde Amen!
I 1000% agree with Tamar. I will not allow my man to have female friends and I will not have male friends. And he agrees with me. Not friends of the opposite sex for either one of us
i agree 100% It cant be done
I just don't think that a married couple, and for both sides, should have and single friends of the opposite sex. If you're gonna play the "I've known them since forever" card, then let your friends become my friends and yours mind. The only way it will works if everybody is friends. But even still even if your spouse is trustworthy, many people who claim to be your friends aren't. I agree with Tamar because I just don't see how it the relationship can be just platonic because someone always gets attached, especially when they're in need of something they aren't getting from their spouse.
Danielle A. I agree. If we both have friends who are single of the opposite sex its only logic for all of us to be friends.
Trust..There have been instances where married couples friends have slept with one another. Cheating happens no matter how you slice it.
Men and women can be platonic. Im not about to micro manage my man like that. Women can be scandalous so his friends will know me and I will know their info. None of this will stop him cheating. I have male friends and I don't want them for anything but as that and they will meet him. Insecurities will mess up the best of relationships.
like why you gotta be so insecure , why did you marry him at the first place ?? if a man wanted to cheat on your ass , be damn sure he's gon' do it baby girl , you don't have to "watch" him.
yes u do...u betta
Ur right a man is gonna do him regardless
so true, if he has it in his head, he'll find a way, no matter how much you stalk him.
You still don't want him hanging with other women that often even if his motives are good.
There's no point to have a female friend though!! you can have your guy friends why you got to have a female if you got a wife ?? its not about being insecure its about respecting your wife or girlfriends feelings/wishes and for no bullshit to put up with. Like what happens if she starts falling for him or becomes one of those crazy female that brings drama to your relationship ! duh
No female friends for him... Then no male friend for her. That's just too controlling. Don't get married if you're gonna have suspicions or be worried about your spouse having intimate relations with their friends of the opposite sex.
I am so with Tamar right now!!!I just don't trust that!!!!
Adriennes makeup always looks on point
"thank you and good night" lol tamar this is totally how i talk to people!
Why would they HAVE to be friends with their man’s female friend if they believe that guys and girls can have a platonic relationship? If it was a guy/guy friendship, they wouldnt care as much
"I'm not trying to control you but you can't have female friends." That's controlling 🙄
I actually ended up asking my man to keep his distance from this one friend he got who's really emotionally needy. I'm like girl go get your own man to confide in 😒
Plus in regards to him I'm like, you already got a female friend--me lol
LMAO!
ButterGirlsCurls Ink Yes thats that kind a girl you need to watch out for. Is she not your friend too?
ButterGirlsCurls Ink I had to train my man! and he's still not fully trained bc he has a lot of female friends! too many! I'm not trying to liken him to a dog, but every relationship needs boundaries. It doesn't matter if you think it's stupid or unfair, they need to be respected by both parties and if you can't do that, then you don't need to be in that relationship.
Megan Tiffany ain't that the truth!
This just solidified my stance; heifers are sneaky; when you know he's taken and you doing stuff like that, it's a problem. Like nah she better go on somewhere 💯
I believe that to have a real relationship with my significant other, I would have to trust him enough to let him have his own friends. If I truly love him, wouldn’t keep him on a leash.
I think once a man is serious about you, if he had previous female friends, that he will set boundaries and not disrespect you
Amen to what Tamar said! 100% true!
This was a great topic. My friends and I always talk about this.
it's not right how people are quick to call it insecurity >_< ..yes, no matter what a man is gonna cheat if he wants to but why open that opportunity by letting him have a female friend?! Your trusting them and then next thing you know the one he cheated w/ was her -_- then you look dumb for even trusting it in the first place...the only woman a man should be spending time w/ is his wife/girlfriend...what do you need another female for?! That's how relationships work...if you have a problem w/ your wife you go to her! You don't air out your dirty laundry to another woman, it doesn't solve anything
Yo when Tamar said "I am not that understanding" Tamera's face killed me. Face expressions say it all! #innershade lmfao
Personally, I feel that there should be no question of male-female friendships once a person is married. Meaning, the inner circle should have changed. Of course not all of your friends will be married but that just means you should be hanging with single friends less and less (male or female) Therefore, you lessen the possibilities of infidelity. At the same time, you should be mindful of how much time is being spent with married friends as well! Everything in moderation. Marriage is a sacred union between two ppl with God at the center. That is all. Just how I feel about that.
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I guess, the one I had wasn't ready I guess....
Hmmm sounds good but we barely know one another. Do you have a kik?
My platonic love in high school is now, 6 years later, my bf and we are gonna get married lol So yes you can fall in love love with our platonic loves :)
I'm only watching these clips in 2020 and I never realised how entertaining The Real was with Tamar Braxton 👏
There is always that chance that that friend could become something more even after y'all are not together anymore, and tbh that would bother tf outta me.
I agree with Tamara. Is she married? single? What is her motive? Believe it or not ladies, there are a LOT of sketchy people out there who do not care if your man is married or in a relationship. And vice versa. If she is single and they are going to be hanging out alone, I personally don't see how that it okay, but maybe that is just me being insecure.
I don't think that is insecurity. There is nothing wrong with setting boundaries for both people in a relationship. It should go both ways though of course. Even if a relationship starts off as friendship, it is natural that it can turn into emotional intimacy and progress further from there. Doesn't meant they can't have friends of the opposite sex, but there needs to be boundaries and I think both people in the marriage need to know the other person and there always needs to be honest communication.
I think what Tamar said about somebody always likes somebody is kind of true from what I have seen. Somebody will like someone in a friendship if there are no boundaries such as do not spend too much time with him/her because that space that somebody is taking in my opinion was naturally designed for a spouse (if you want to get married of course). So your body does not know how to tell which one it is a friend, or a spouse and that's where things can get a little tricky and difficult especially if you can not be with him or her for some reason. That's just my opinion but I am still a teenager so I am still not sure if guys and girls can just be friends when there are boundaries lol. Life will tell.
I am with Jeanie on this one!
Jeannie isn't being controlling-airing grievances about your significant other to another person outside of a relationship can create a certain kind of intimacy, which can lead to cheating.
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From the age of 18-28 ive had neighbor male friends that i smoked joints with and they eventually started to fall for me when I didn't feel the same about them nor did I even try to come on to them for I was a virgin. It always ends bad and broken
Everything they’re saying based around insecurity. The reason being is that they know that men and women have underlying unspoken bonds that fall outside of friendship, whether it be acknowledged or not. Platonic love is not romantic love. No one would be as committed to a friend as they would their partner. You live with, share life, have children and grow old with a partner. It’s a different bond. So yeh, women and men can be friends but only if they’re 100% honest with each other and themselves - including telling the other person you have feelings for them
This needs to be the top comment!! Communication is the key to all relationships. (Especially the relationship with yourself)
@3:11 Jeannie says that her and Freddie are bound for life. Currently, she says she always knew they would divorce. Funny how people try to minimize an old love to feel certain about a new love.
Wow, talk about hypocrisy. You know what people call it when a man forbids his partner from having other male friends? Yeah, they call that domestic abuse.
Absolutelt. Just went through that. Run ladies and gems Rubin
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That's not domestic abuse. That's just being controlling.
I miss them all together
friend no friend work no work no girl friends allowed i agree
The people that won't or can't create boundaries in their relationships are 100% going to end up divorced, in an open relationship, or just unhappy. Yes, if someone wants to cheat they will regardless of whether they have girl friends or not, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't set boundaries with your spouse. And no, I don't have male friends outside of my marriage and I expect the same from my husband. No double standard, I just don't feel it is appropriate. If he has female friends, they need to meet me, they don't need to be texting him or calling him for small talk, and they definitely don't need to be discussing our relationship. Period.
I'm sure we all remeber the video where Jeanie said she wishes her husband will make more female friends. And that she is always on his case about make more female friends....so now she is saying something completely deferent. I'm confused
Well I’m bi so am I not allowed to have any friends?! My ex had a lot of female friends and I knew that he talked to them about me, but I really didn’t care cause I talked about him with my female and male friends and I trusted him💁🏻♀️
He always treated me right and he is only my ex because he had to move to another country
Right. I think this conversation who jump in relationships quick then build trust later.
Adrienne's look is SO cute!😍
Don't you be telling people or "friends" your issues in your relationships because they will use it against you in so many ways it's unreal!! I mean we all talk but there is a thin thin line that must be drawn with anybody other than your significant other I can vouch for that just like many others that have learned along the way, it comes with growth
When you are more mature those insecure feelings become less significant. Tamar was at least honest and called her own self out. I think childhood friends and longtime friends should be accepted. Those new ones need to be friends to both husband and wife.
This is literally how me n my gf came to be bf and gf we was friend first and then we started dating
First of all if I was the best friend of a guy who's married, has a girlfriend, or is engaged, i would have to keep my distance. Its seems.unfortunate but it would be the best decision so I don't have to deal with jealousy or her making.suspicions about what may be.happening. I just want to avoid turmoil. Also with us being best friends it's okay for her to be aware of my being but she doesn't need to know nothing about me or what motives she think I have.
I personally don't wanna be in a close friendship with a taken man. Too much drama for me!