One of the better moments of The Force Unleashed where that droid (forgot the name) who could mimic opponents had mimicked Vader to fight Starkiller, and the droid says he hates being Vader, and Starkiller muses that Vader hates being Vader too.
It's also one of the cool things about Anakin/Vader that people often misjudge. He only particularly despises the paper pushing and political officers, he gets along well with and is highly respected by the normal grunts. He leads from the front whenever he's around, and acknowledges that the normal grunt troopers put their lives on the line for their duty. They are not the scheming cowards who find their way on the bad side of a Force Choke.
I love Maul and Vader, they each have their ups and down. Vader is an absolute powerhouse who’s main fuel is self-hatred, being “the chosen one” seems to always give him a leg up… But Maul has always seemed like the most “pure” sith, his hate and rage never wavered, he never seemed to lose momentum even when he was utterly destroyed by his foes.
I got to disagree on this one. It's in his name, Darth Maul, the dude was made to be a weapon and nothing more. His knowledge of the force, secret sith abilities, and sith history leaves a lot to be desired. I don't believe Sidious ever truly planned on him being his successor. Once Anakin popped up I think Sidious meant to make him his apprentice and groomed him for that role for years....which then begs the question of Dooku. Again I don't think Sidious meant for him to be his successor, but just another pawn in his plans. Dooku being Dooku however would never take to just being some dark jedi, he had to secure his place as the new sith lord, and Sidious took him on planning for Anakin to one day kill him.
@@solandras666i totally disagree. After the Empire took over Maul really gathered great knowledge and skill through holocrons and sith alchemy. But yeah, prior to that he was more trained as an assassin, as he was no true apprentice
@@solandras666bro Darth maul has some of the most complex Darth side forge abilities ??? He killed someone’s by starting at him he gave a Jedi nightmares and hallucinations that’s something that not many sith have done
Given Palpatine's inetntions with cloning, it makes sense even when this comic was done for Palp to have plotted for a Maul clone. Win or lose, he comes out ahead. He gets to test cloning tech, and he gets whomever is the better apprentice.
Yes, that's why he never reached his full potential. It's not necessarily his limbs. Negative emotions are conducive to the Dark Side, but not hating *yourself.* The thing that made Sidious so powerful was because he was *nothing.* A black hole, the shadow over the galaxy. That's what limited his power, self hate and doubt. Not enough people know that The Dark Side is not another side of the force, the Dark Side is when you grab The Force itself by the balls and manipulate it *to your will.*
Hayden Christensen in the Darth Vader suit (with James Earl Jones as the voice actor) dueling Ray Park in the Darth Maul makeup for a live action Vader vs Maul fight that takes place between Rebels and Rogue One would be the most glorious thing ever in Star Wars.
I think that a sith that was born in hatred would never compare to one that knew compassion and love then falls. It is because of the twinkle of light in vader that makes him regret all his decisions and in turn himself. If the light wasn't there he wouldn't care enough to hate himself to that extent.
Vader's suit was a cage in almost every meaning. It was extremely heavy, itchy, unwieldy and gave off constant pain. Sith Alchemy made it so it would given him more strength and vitality, but that was also a way to cage him, make him rely on it. The icing on the cake is that almost no one treated him as a person because of it, so his emotional side couldn't develop further either (Passion is just as important to a Sith) If Anakin was given time to truly develop himself, he'd make the likes of Nihilus and Plagueis look like chumps in regards to Force Control
@@marcusboganroberson9798 it's a fact. If he was raised to fully embrace the force as a whole, Anakin would have eventually had the power to warp reality.
Darth Vader during revenge of the sith before his defeat on mustufar was the most powerful sith ever. Darth vader in the suit, post mustufar, however, is one of the least powerful.
This comic is part of Legends and came out before his return in Clone Wars anyway. Rob really should have made the distinction since it is important, that is if he even knows about the 2014 reboot.
Stupendous Wave covered this chapter of the star wars comic book. he explains his theory beautifully that it was all Sidious' plot to test Vader's capabilities and he had feeling that Sidious was indeed behind it.
Dude, Rob... don't you ever stop making these videos. Where I am now it's 20h30, and I've got classes tomorrow (varsity) but I can't sleep.... I know that after a good dose of your videos, I'll be good to go. So don't stop bro! This is a pill...
THANK UUUUU ROB i have been reading star wars since childhood and this was one of my first reads . i realy hope do more star wars comics oldies and new especially dark horse and EU the sequals ruined alot of stuff for me so this was a treat most appreciated.
I LOVE Clone Wars and Rebels! Still remember when Darth Maul had his final battle with Kenobi which didn't lasr long at all but was amazing nonetheless!
There's so many aspects, not even story lines, from Legends Disney could use and make Star Wars great again. Sith alchemy is high on my list of things I'd like to see explored.
So Disney took a lot from the old canon and transferred it to new rails. Here you have the surviving Boba Fett, and Travna with plans to fill the power vacuum in the galaxy, and the son of Han and Leia who turned to the dark side. And the cherry on the cake is the resurrected Sidious through cloning, who learned to drain the power from other Forceusers like the Sith from old video games. Here the question is how did they implement all this? (mostly not very well)
Sidious had many Sith experiments going on in the background. I wouldn't be surprised if ressurecting Darth Maul was one of them. Always loved this comic. Never got a chance to read it myself, but I remember seeing that panel, where Vader reveals the source of his hate. One of the most powerful lines ever from him IMO.
It's interesting because Maul had an indirect influence in the creation of Vader. Had Qui Gon not been killed, he may have been able to lead Anakin away from the Dark Side.
No, the balance disruption was the sith and the Dark Side, no the Jedi. The purge wasn't suppose to happen, it wouldn't be a tragedy if it was meant(And quite honestly fucked up).
Yes!!! Finally, Rob's doing Star Wars Legends content. LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rob, keep doing Pre Disney content for Star Wars, because, let me tell you, it's AMAZING!!!!! and it's SO MUCH BETTER than Disney's stuff at least in my personal opinion which anyone can refute if they wish. Can't believe Rob gave a mention to Ulic and Cay Qel-Droma. Let's go!!!!
Love that you’re covering EU content of Star Wars Vader absolutely was better and stronger than Maul in any aspect of combat but that lone spark of light was his greatest weakness as Maul points out. The only reason I think Maul does as well as he did is because, as you said, Vader isn’t as fast as he was. In the EU it’s described how Vader in his early years had to completely rebuild his fighting style from the ground up to compensate for his cybernetics. And this is a early version of Vader who’s nowhere near as strong and refined a duellist as he would later become. Vader in ROTJ when he’s described to be at his peak and supposedly “80%” of Sidious would crush Maul with no effort. Please keep covering Star Wars, so much good content and characters that are lesser known, especially in the EU!
Agreed. I’d argue that Maul is the single worst duelist for Vader to fight, just the hardest fight for him to take and he still won. That’s terrifying hahaha. Legend.
It was mentioned in the Legacy era by the Emperor's Hand Lumiya that indeed getting machine components inside his body Vader wasn't a proper Darth Lord .
I love it when you cover Star Wars content! I would really enjoy it if you covered Charles Soule's Darth Vader run (2017) as it is an insanely good story and arguably the best Star Wars comic run. (Also, you should remember that this is a "legends" comic and does not fit within the canon of Star Wars which was reset in 2013)
Yeah Rob really should have made it known that this was Legends. It's a story that came out long before even George brought him back in Clone Wars, so that really messes with things. I'm not even sure Rob's aware because he seemed to reference both Canon and Legends stories when talking about the characters, and they do differ (although not a lot) across the different continuities.
Maul and Nihilus are the two most absolutely underrated Star Wars villains of all time. Maul would crush Vader in a lightsaber battle and Nihilus would crush everyone in an all out force battle.
Without question, this is exactly how this fight would’ve ended. Yes, Darth Mail may have more hatred in general but Vader’s hatred has a focal point in himself. I would argue that when you have a focal point with the force it allows you bolster your own power or your “foundation” in the force. With maul it’s like spreading yourself to thin by hating everything. Mail was defeated before this started, Vader just needed an opening
11:35 Technically he would always have that potential, I feel he'd continue to be too focused on the martial arts/lightsaber forms aspect of being a Jedi.
This concept for the source of Darth Vader's endless hate and rage, being generated by his own self loathing and hate at how easily he knelt to the emperor, how quickly he gave into the dark side, how easy it was for him to slaughter younglings, how he betrayed everyone he loves. Even the concept of his meditation, it's just him sitting there dwelling on how he betrayed everything and threw it all away. It's even foreshadowed in clone wars... his regret for slaughtering the Tusken Raider's. It even make sense why the Emperor did not want Darth Vader to fight Obi-wan, because that lasting link to his old life made his hate burn hotter while Vader desired nothing more then to kill him.
omg please do more star wars videos i thought i was a star wars fan and didnt even know about these! ive loved your dc comic videos and cant wait to see what else youll do!
Truth be told, we had a definite answer in Episode 6 (which I'd consider much more "canon" than the comics). Palpatine wants luke to take Vader down and be his new apprentice. Why? Because Vader is in fact a shell of himself, weakened by the machine parts and age. This was easily proven by Luke succumbing the the Dark Side a bit when Leia is threatened and easily overpowering Vader in his anger. Note that this is a Luke who's not had nearly the same amount of training and experience Vader had had over his life.
13:45 Wait, you stated at 00:05 that this took place BEFORE ep4. As such, Vader hadn't yet killed Kenobi so there's only supposition in play that Vader COULD kill Kenobi.
It's the "hint of light" still in him, comment. Darth Sidious senses that in Darth Vader and always has to be sure Vader is still on the Dark Side. Even though Vader is in service to the Emporer, he still thinks for himself, and that stands as a lasting threat to the Darkside of the force.
If we are talking in terms of potential in Legends Pre TCW Retcons And Tie Ins both The Skywalkers, The Mereks, The Solos, And Dooku had higher potentials then Mauls in the force but in terms of being more in tuned with the dark side itself Maul is more fitting to be Sidious apprentice then all of them because he has much less light and grey in him then those others do not to mention he was Sidious first force sensitive lacky so he holds a special place in Sidious twisted heart yeah.
What always got me with Anakin is how intelligent he was as a kid. He made C3PO and fixed everything as a slave kid. But, as he aged it seems like that level of intelligence was dropped off in his character. At least in the movies it seems to dissipate as he aged and he was manipulated by his emotions but his intelligence never picked up on what's going on.
I think that's the point. How an otherwise powerful and intelligent person, can break and bend to their emotions if they have no true or good father figure and aren't taught how to deal with their emotions but to just suppress them, can cause so much damage and be such a threat to life, society, the future etc
the 2d micro series clone wars he built his OG jedi fighter with a hyper drive. Had it looking similar to his pod racer. as compared to like the other jedi fighters which needed their own space ring.
@4:45 Vader wins. I feel like The Force Unleashed game really showed it best, both in the prologue Jedi Hunt, but also the bad ending fight against the very heavily damaged Vader keeping himself going off pure rage. He's a beastly fighter, and hunted down and killed swaths of Jedi during his years in the suit, Masters included. Maul is agile and an excellent fighter to be sure, but he has been humbled multiple times over including by Palpatine himself that he is not SO excellent of a fighter that he will even be favored against other experienced fighters. Anakin was arrogant, Vader is calculating and experienced. I don't think there is any canon which favors Maul over Vader if both are in their prime.
Id say given what happens in Clone Wars with Maul’s return, Vader would totally remember everything about him. He deff doesn’t have the same history with him as Obi Wan lol
As one who has never read the comics but meticulously watched ALL STAR WARS CONTENT REPEATEDLY, it's interesting seeing Vader slay Maul instead of Kenobi. But I agree - Vader would have defeated Maul. Absolutely. Maybe with less difficulty than here. Vader was ALWAYS more force proficient than Maul. Maul was blinded.
Just to point out, it's not Maul's nature to be like that. He was molded from a very young age. Pretty much tortured and forced to fight to survive. Sidious created a monster. Maul is a very compelling character, we were lucky that Lucas decided to bring him back. Also, Vader knew Maul was alive, I think. I don't actually remember a scene with both of them in TCW, but he would know. And they saw each other, i think,t in Rebels, but this seems before that. It might be hard for you because I know you're not so deep into this like you are with super heroes, but I would love if you covered more Star Wars comics. Edit: just realized this is not from that continuity.
"This guy was like people on Twitter. He was mad about everything." Heh, great analogy, and a very accurate one. 😄 As for which one wins...Vader every time.
Mauls mother is the only one as strong as the emperor too. If maul as he got older learned some of the dark side magic too he'd be even more powerful And vader didnt take out obi won yet. Or ever really.
None of them know how to truly balance the force. Anakin slash Vader was ment to be the strongest and balancing the force by being part of both sides. He is the reason why the Jedi fell and the empire rose and he is also the reason the sith fell and the empire lost.
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Only Vader could hate himself so much, it outweighs the hate his opponent has. Dude is the literal personification of the uno reverse card.
One of the better moments of The Force Unleashed where that droid (forgot the name) who could mimic opponents had mimicked Vader to fight Starkiller, and the droid says he hates being Vader, and Starkiller muses that Vader hates being Vader too.
Lmao yall crazy vader sucks
@@eqquat3460wdym anakin sucks he was the best jedi back then
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I love seeing regular troopers with knowledge. it's feels natural
It's also one of the cool things about Anakin/Vader that people often misjudge. He only particularly despises the paper pushing and political officers, he gets along well with and is highly respected by the normal grunts. He leads from the front whenever he's around, and acknowledges that the normal grunt troopers put their lives on the line for their duty. They are not the scheming cowards who find their way on the bad side of a Force Choke.
@@jaeusa160 nothing more to add to that! you're 100%
Definitely better than seeing them as mindless death victims for sure.
Reminds me of the clones
"This guy was like people on Twitter, he was mad about everything." -- Rob 😂😂
Maul may be born of hate but Vader's rage and hate are on another level when mixed with the power and force of love.
Maul: "I was hoping for Kenobi. Why are you here?"
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne.
KENOOOOOOBIIIIII😅😅😅😅😊
DAMN YOU!!!!!!
YOU BEAT ME TO THA PUNCH
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THAT IS DARTH VADER INCARNATE RIGHT THERE
You want obi... I want obi too! Did we just become best friends!?
I love Maul and Vader, they each have their ups and down.
Vader is an absolute powerhouse who’s main fuel is self-hatred, being “the chosen one” seems to always give him a leg up…
But Maul has always seemed like the most “pure” sith, his hate and rage never wavered, he never seemed to lose momentum even when he was utterly destroyed by his foes.
I got to disagree on this one. It's in his name, Darth Maul, the dude was made to be a weapon and nothing more. His knowledge of the force, secret sith abilities, and sith history leaves a lot to be desired. I don't believe Sidious ever truly planned on him being his successor. Once Anakin popped up I think Sidious meant to make him his apprentice and groomed him for that role for years....which then begs the question of Dooku. Again I don't think Sidious meant for him to be his successor, but just another pawn in his plans. Dooku being Dooku however would never take to just being some dark jedi, he had to secure his place as the new sith lord, and Sidious took him on planning for Anakin to one day kill him.
@@solandras666i totally disagree. After the Empire took over Maul really gathered great knowledge and skill through holocrons and sith alchemy. But yeah, prior to that he was more trained as an assassin, as he was no true apprentice
@@solandras666bro Darth maul has some of the most complex Darth side forge abilities ??? He killed someone’s by starting at him he gave a Jedi nightmares and hallucinations that’s something that not many sith have done
Rob more Star Wars stuff please. That Darth Vader solo run is amazing.
Given Palpatine's inetntions with cloning, it makes sense even when this comic was done for Palp to have plotted for a Maul clone. Win or lose, he comes out ahead. He gets to test cloning tech, and he gets whomever is the better apprentice.
What people forget, is that while Vader has great potential, he also has so much pain. Both physical, and mental.
Which makes him even stronger in the Dark Side.
And while Maul hates the world in general, Vader hates himself the most
@@FunTimeWithSoulsmore like it helps him anchor himself to the darkside, he's already attuned to the force regardless of which side he picks
Yes, that's why he never reached his full potential. It's not necessarily his limbs. Negative emotions are conducive to the Dark Side, but not hating *yourself.* The thing that made Sidious so powerful was because he was *nothing.* A black hole, the shadow over the galaxy. That's what limited his power, self hate and doubt.
Not enough people know that The Dark Side is not another side of the force, the Dark Side is when you grab The Force itself by the balls and manipulate it *to your will.*
A great sith channels these to fuel their rage and power
Hayden Christensen in the Darth Vader suit (with James Earl Jones as the voice actor) dueling Ray Park in the Darth Maul makeup for a live action Vader vs Maul fight that takes place between Rebels and Rogue One would be the most glorious thing ever in Star Wars.
I think that a sith that was born in hatred would never compare to one that knew compassion and love then falls. It is because of the twinkle of light in vader that makes him regret all his decisions and in turn himself. If the light wasn't there he wouldn't care enough to hate himself to that extent.
The stronger the connection, the stronger the feeling of loss
Vader's suit was a cage in almost every meaning.
It was extremely heavy, itchy, unwieldy and gave off constant pain.
Sith Alchemy made it so it would given him more strength and vitality, but that was also a way to cage him, make him rely on it.
The icing on the cake is that almost no one treated him as a person because of it, so his emotional side couldn't develop further either (Passion is just as important to a Sith)
If Anakin was given time to truly develop himself, he'd make the likes of Nihilus and Plagueis look like chumps in regards to Force Control
Imagine making a sith lord who can eat planets look like a simp.
Yeah idk about that one chief 😂
@@marcusboganroberson9798 it's a fact. If he was raised to fully embrace the force as a whole, Anakin would have eventually had the power to warp reality.
Darth Vader during revenge of the sith before his defeat on mustufar was the most powerful sith ever. Darth vader in the suit, post mustufar, however, is one of the least powerful.
Vader took the Emperors force lightning like a boss as he tossed him over the Rail. Maul screamed like a bitch and begged for mercy.
I love rob covering star wars comic. I hope to see him cover the legacy comics with kade skywalker
A Tales of Jedi episode of Vader vs Darth Maul would be amazing 🔥
What could you hate so much"
"Myself"
Goosebumps
Rob! Thank you man! I've read this several times and and now get to listen to you talk about it. I absolutely love when you cover Star Wars content!
Had me at “home in time for cornflakes” 😂. Keep em coming rob!
YES!!!!!
DAMNRIGHT....SON....SON...SON!!!!!!
Rob never seen the clone wars?!?! It explains how Maul is still alive! Def worth a watch!!!
This comic is part of Legends and came out before his return in Clone Wars anyway. Rob really should have made the distinction since it is important, that is if he even knows about the 2014 reboot.
I was thinking the same thing
I should set Rob's voice that says "it's AMAZING" for my alarm, it would improve my mornings
Stupendous Wave covered this chapter of the star wars comic book. he explains his theory beautifully that it was all Sidious' plot to test Vader's capabilities and he had feeling that Sidious was indeed behind it.
Dude, Rob... don't you ever stop making these videos. Where I am now it's 20h30, and I've got classes tomorrow (varsity) but I can't sleep.... I know that after a good dose of your videos, I'll be good to go. So don't stop bro! This is a pill...
Vader would always come out on top. He killed so many jedi that Maul could not. And also killed Palpatine in the end
He also slaughtered younglings like carelessly throwing dust in the wind.
True. Vader fighting someone like Maul wouldn’t be that much of a challenge. I wanna see him fight Bane even tho it’s a different time.
@@homelander2243bane from DC? hes getting killed even quicker
@@rockymontanagarciamaneBane is a Sith Lord, a very powerful one at that. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's the reason why the rule of two exists.
@@rockymontanagarciamane Darth Bane* my bad.
THANK UUUUU ROB i have been reading star wars since childhood and this was one of my first reads . i realy hope do more star wars comics oldies and new especially dark horse and EU the sequals ruined alot of stuff for me so this was a treat most appreciated.
This looks like it is going to be interesting. I wish we could see then fight in live action! Thanks Rob!
Wouldn’t be much of a fight but still would be cool nonetheless
Nahhh Clone Wars animation 🤘
I LOVE Clone Wars and Rebels! Still remember when Darth Maul had his final battle with Kenobi which didn't lasr long at all but was amazing nonetheless!
A trained animal, gone rabid, cannot overcome a beast that breathes only to slaughter.
finally a good comics explained
Rob doing Star Wars comics>>>>
Vader's character is so much deeper than the films could ever portray. This comic was brilliant!
I love this video. I would love to see more Star Wars content, especially on the mythos of the Sith. I think Vader would have won either way.
Can't have darkness without the light
Lol this was a clone, the original maul would wipe the floor with him
I don’t know what to expect anymore & I like it.
Didn’t know this match up went down in the books. Thanks for the drop.
There's so many aspects, not even story lines, from Legends Disney could use and make Star Wars great again. Sith alchemy is high on my list of things I'd like to see explored.
"Somehow, Palpatine returned."
The problem is that it's Disney
So Disney took a lot from the old canon and transferred it to new rails.
Here you have the surviving Boba Fett, and Travna with plans to fill the power vacuum in the galaxy, and the son of Han and Leia who turned to the dark side.
And the cherry on the cake is the resurrected Sidious through cloning, who learned to drain the power from other Forceusers like the Sith from old video games.
Here the question is how did they implement all this? (mostly not very well)
“This guy was like people on twitter. He was about everything “ bro I busted out laughing when you said that lmfao
Sidious had many Sith experiments going on in the background. I wouldn't be surprised if ressurecting Darth Maul was one of them.
Always loved this comic. Never got a chance to read it myself, but I remember seeing that panel, where Vader reveals the source of his hate. One of the most powerful lines ever from him IMO.
I love when you cover Star Wars.
Vader, every time...
It’s not even really a sensible question.
Hate comes from pain.
He is the living personification of pain, physical + mental.
It's interesting because Maul had an indirect influence in the creation of Vader. Had Qui Gon not been killed, he may have been able to lead Anakin away from the Dark Side.
But hey it all worked out at the end right? Anakin/Vader did set balance to force with one wrestling move.
@@Khaleel85 He did ultimately fulfill the prophecy.
@@BlackSun6393 inadvertently purged the corruption in the Jedi order who were losing there way, and destroyed the Sith. Perfectly balanced.
That was never happening
No, the balance disruption was the sith and the Dark Side, no the Jedi. The purge wasn't suppose to happen, it wouldn't be a tragedy if it was meant(And quite honestly fucked up).
Yes!!! Finally, Rob's doing Star Wars Legends content. LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rob, keep doing Pre Disney content for Star Wars, because, let me tell you, it's AMAZING!!!!! and it's SO MUCH BETTER than Disney's stuff at least in my personal opinion which anyone can refute if they wish. Can't believe Rob gave a mention to Ulic and Cay Qel-Droma. Let's go!!!!
"Maul being same as people on twitter" - I am definitely going to use that
Darth Vader vs Darth Maul one of the star wars fights we have wanted to see .
Love that you’re covering EU content of Star Wars
Vader absolutely was better and stronger than Maul in any aspect of combat but that lone spark of light was his greatest weakness as Maul points out.
The only reason I think Maul does as well as he did is because, as you said, Vader isn’t as fast as he was. In the EU it’s described how Vader in his early years had to completely rebuild his fighting style from the ground up to compensate for his cybernetics. And this is a early version of Vader who’s nowhere near as strong and refined a duellist as he would later become. Vader in ROTJ when he’s described to be at his peak and supposedly “80%” of Sidious would crush Maul with no effort.
Please keep covering Star Wars, so much good content and characters that are lesser known, especially in the EU!
Agreed. I’d argue that Maul is the single worst duelist for Vader to fight, just the hardest fight for him to take and he still won. That’s terrifying hahaha. Legend.
Also this was a more updated version of Maul more powerful and skilled then his TPM self greatly amped by the magic users yeah.
@@matthewmann8969the writer of the comic said Maul wasn't amped and that both he and Vader were using their full power against each other.
Do more star wars comics my man! Love the channel
Just the thought of these two clashing is EPIC!
"What could you hate enough to destroy me?"
"Myself"
God dayum that slapped hard
Fuck off scammer, you aint the real Rob lmfao@ComicsExplained__0_
It was mentioned in the Legacy era by the Emperor's Hand Lumiya that indeed getting machine components inside his body Vader wasn't a proper Darth Lord .
Even though it's in a game instead of a comic, Vader also once made a clone that was half his Sith Apprentice and half Maul.
We need more Star Wars Comics!!
Oh Hell Yea! More Star Wars Please!!!
I love it when you cover Star Wars content! I would really enjoy it if you covered Charles Soule's Darth Vader run (2017) as it is an insanely good story and arguably the best Star Wars comic run.
(Also, you should remember that this is a "legends" comic and does not fit within the canon of Star Wars which was reset in 2013)
Yeah Rob really should have made it known that this was Legends. It's a story that came out long before even George brought him back in Clone Wars, so that really messes with things. I'm not even sure Rob's aware because he seemed to reference both Canon and Legends stories when talking about the characters, and they do differ (although not a lot) across the different continuities.
Yo Big Rob Dog, awesome video. I didn't know you knew this much about Star Wars. Well done sir.
Maul and Nihilus are the two most absolutely underrated Star Wars villains of all time. Maul would crush Vader in a lightsaber battle and Nihilus would crush everyone in an all out force battle.
Exactly
Very few people seem to understand that
Imagine Darth Maul with a red lantern ring! 💀
Imagine him using the ring to power a Kyber, infinite lightsabers!
Without question, this is exactly how this fight would’ve ended. Yes, Darth Mail may have more hatred in general but Vader’s hatred has a focal point in himself. I would argue that when you have a focal point with the force it allows you bolster your own power or your “foundation” in the force. With maul it’s like spreading yourself to thin by hating everything. Mail was defeated before this started, Vader just needed an opening
There's so much to cover starwars wise rob money right there with your voice
11:35 Technically he would always have that potential, I feel he'd continue to be too focused on the martial arts/lightsaber forms aspect of being a Jedi.
bro....
i don't know why they aint doing an ENTIRE SHOW with Darth Vader....❤️❤️💥😎💯🤘
This is legends now, since canon tell different tales
Ahhh, the memories. I miss the old Dark Horse Comics Star Wars.
This concept for the source of Darth Vader's endless hate and rage, being generated by his own self loathing and hate at how easily he knelt to the emperor, how quickly he gave into the dark side, how easy it was for him to slaughter younglings, how he betrayed everyone he loves. Even the concept of his meditation, it's just him sitting there dwelling on how he betrayed everything and threw it all away. It's even foreshadowed in clone wars... his regret for slaughtering the Tusken Raider's. It even make sense why the Emperor did not want Darth Vader to fight Obi-wan, because that lasting link to his old life made his hate burn hotter while Vader desired nothing more then to kill him.
My boy rob what a video Man this will be awesome if it was live action
"This guy is like people on Twitter "
Truer words have not been said 😂😂😂
More Star Wars comics please
Vader woulda smoked him. I love Darth Maul but this is Vader we're talking about.
omg please do more star wars videos i thought i was a star wars fan and didnt even know about these! ive loved your dc comic videos and cant wait to see what else youll do!
Maul definitely better Apprentice by far. Power doesn’t matter when we are comparing compatibility to another person.
Truth be told, we had a definite answer in Episode 6 (which I'd consider much more "canon" than the comics). Palpatine wants luke to take Vader down and be his new apprentice. Why? Because Vader is in fact a shell of himself, weakened by the machine parts and age. This was easily proven by Luke succumbing the the Dark Side a bit when Leia is threatened and easily overpowering Vader in his anger. Note that this is a Luke who's not had nearly the same amount of training and experience Vader had had over his life.
Vader was conflicted and not going all out on Luke. There's no need to wank him when's got good feats as is.
13:45 Wait, you stated at 00:05 that this took place BEFORE ep4. As such, Vader hadn't yet killed Kenobi so there's only supposition in play that Vader COULD kill Kenobi.
It's the "hint of light" still in him, comment.
Darth Sidious senses that in Darth Vader and always has to be sure Vader is still on the Dark Side. Even though Vader is in service to the Emporer, he still thinks for himself, and that stands as a lasting threat to the Darkside of the force.
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If we are talking in terms of potential in Legends Pre TCW Retcons And Tie Ins both The Skywalkers, The Mereks, The Solos, And Dooku had higher potentials then Mauls in the force but in terms of being more in tuned with the dark side itself Maul is more fitting to be Sidious apprentice then all of them because he has much less light and grey in him then those others do not to mention he was Sidious first force sensitive lacky so he holds a special place in Sidious twisted heart yeah.
I really hope you cover more starters stuff. The discussions are awesome
I love the Star Wars comics.
Nice to see these star wars comics vids
What always got me with Anakin is how intelligent he was as a kid. He made C3PO and fixed everything as a slave kid. But, as he aged it seems like that level of intelligence was dropped off in his character. At least in the movies it seems to dissipate as he aged and he was manipulated by his emotions but his intelligence never picked up on what's going on.
I must emphasize there is a difference between emotional intelligence and applicable intelligence
I think that's the point. How an otherwise powerful and intelligent person, can break and bend to their emotions if they have no true or good father figure and aren't taught how to deal with their emotions but to just suppress them, can cause so much damage and be such a threat to life, society, the future etc
Also he no longer has natural hands to be accentuated with the force
the 2d micro series clone wars he built his OG jedi fighter with a hyper drive. Had it looking similar to his pod racer. as compared to like the other jedi fighters which needed their own space ring.
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Palpatine always knew how to use Vader weakness against him"that was always his advantage.Mail was just a bonus ✌🏻
@4:45 Vader wins. I feel like The Force Unleashed game really showed it best, both in the prologue Jedi Hunt, but also the bad ending fight against the very heavily damaged Vader keeping himself going off pure rage. He's a beastly fighter, and hunted down and killed swaths of Jedi during his years in the suit, Masters included.
Maul is agile and an excellent fighter to be sure, but he has been humbled multiple times over including by Palpatine himself that he is not SO excellent of a fighter that he will even be favored against other experienced fighters. Anakin was arrogant, Vader is calculating and experienced. I don't think there is any canon which favors Maul over Vader if both are in their prime.
Vader can survive for minutes with his life support turned off, and retain functionality/mobility. Aaron and Gilles both display this.
Id say given what happens in Clone Wars with Maul’s return, Vader would totally remember everything about him. He deff doesn’t have the same history with him as Obi Wan lol
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this comic was made before Desney owned Star Wars
As one who has never read the comics but meticulously watched ALL STAR WARS CONTENT REPEATEDLY, it's interesting seeing Vader slay Maul instead of Kenobi. But I agree - Vader would have defeated Maul. Absolutely. Maybe with less difficulty than here. Vader was ALWAYS more force proficient than Maul. Maul was blinded.
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Ahh star wars tales classic and solid should be brought back in some form but i wont hold my breath
"Myself."
I felt that one...
I would be down for you to cover more legends comics
It's time for Star Wars to dabble into some multiverse 😌
- Darth Vader vs Anakin
- Jango fet vs Boba Fet
- Obi-wan vs Palptine
Just to point out, it's not Maul's nature to be like that. He was molded from a very young age. Pretty much tortured and forced to fight to survive. Sidious created a monster.
Maul is a very compelling character, we were lucky that Lucas decided to bring him back.
Also, Vader knew Maul was alive, I think. I don't actually remember a scene with both of them in TCW, but he would know.
And they saw each other, i think,t in Rebels, but this seems before that.
It might be hard for you because I know you're not so deep into this like you are with super heroes, but I would love if you covered more Star Wars comics.
Edit: just realized this is not from that continuity.
I love darth maul he was my favourite in the clone wars
this question was answered in rebels. maul don't stand a chance
I'm begging you, please cover the star wars infinities comics!
"This guy was like people on Twitter. He was mad about everything." Heh, great analogy, and a very accurate one. 😄 As for which one wins...Vader every time.
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Mauls mother is the only one as strong as the emperor too. If maul as he got older learned some of the dark side magic too he'd be even more powerful
And vader didnt take out obi won yet. Or ever really.
None of them know how to truly balance the force. Anakin slash Vader was ment to be the strongest and balancing the force by being part of both sides. He is the reason why the Jedi fell and the empire rose and he is also the reason the sith fell and the empire lost.
Stormtroppers only miss their target when their targets are important movie characters. In universe they are supose to have good aim.
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Maul always made a great punching bag. Only makes sense for him to get beat down again.
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