Fallout 4 - What Happens if you KILL Father IMMEDIATELY?
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If you kill him immediately, you get captured. When you come to, it's winter, you're on a wagon, and your hands are bound. The title screen appears. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Todd Howard, you did it again.
It just works
best plot twist i've ever read in ages
I hate how funny this is.
@@bigmanjorge dude before you put it I was literally gonna type this ROFLCOPTER 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@helpme3230 Still a better ending than Fallout 3.
Imagine killing father the second he comes out on your first play through and you never find out he’s actually shaun
I did it, good thing i got killed and loaded my game before this
haha, yeah only an idiot would do that...
That’s what my brother did. I had played that mission before him and was sitting on the couch watching him like wow wow wow
Ignorance is bliss
I actually did that. I kept looking around the room afterwards to try and figure out what I missed. So I said fuck it and restated from my last save point.
Father: "I come completely unarmed, please let's talk."
Me:" I expected this Boss fight to be harder...
I geared up in full power armor and cleared out my caps for fusion cores and ammo thinking the same thing lol
Doom Slayer comes to mind. Shaun: can we work together and be friends? Sole survivor: shoves krevmhs tooth into his chest cavity "no".
You dont have to use quotation marks after a colon
@@luukderuijter1332 You still can, and it's visually cleaner to do so as it allows you to type out actions without the quotations and quickly view at a glance what is and isn't someone speaking.
@@commando21 I did the same thing lol, fully armed in power armor
*Shaun Logic*
"From now on you are the enemy of the institute!"
*Gotten attacked by the institute before visiting the institute*
You don't have to be an enemy of the institute to be attacked by the institute. That's why the institute are evil.
8:31 - Also Shaun Logic: "Through Science, we are family. The Synths, me... and you... (only I'm still going to treat synths like toasters irrelevant if they have thoughts, feelings, and sentience now...)"
@@dieseljester3466 I mean... there are a lot of families like that...
@@dieseljester3466bro, it’s a f***ing robot. At the end of the day, of course it’s a toaster. what u on about
I Always thought that it was another searcher of the Institute who let the Synths attack us because they didn't agree with Father's plan.
Shaun has too low charisma to convince you
Yep
*_YOU FAILED_*
Ofc, have you seen the ugly piece of shit? Charisma : 1
Michal Bucek *[persausion attempt failed]*
[FAILED]
Shaun: "I am... your son."
Sole survivor:
*B U L L S H I T*
Thats what i did. Then i put a 44 in his skull
Skull
Now this comment I can hear.
Lmao I remember using that dialogue option because I was in shock and it was hilarious
Nate: I HAVE NO SON!
"You killed him! How could you do that?! He was your son!"
Said by the same folk who exterminated the entire settlement at University Point, killed countless people after replacing them with a synth & unleashed FEV virus in the Commonwealth :-)
No one should have qualms about burning the Institute.
Exactly
My only regret is that we couldn't keep there tech, imagine what good those resource and facilities could of done to benefit the commonwealth
Also father has the nerve to call the surface "hopeless". Other than the fact that there are actually working government out there(NCR says hello), what the institute does is one of the main reasons why commomwealth is such a shithole.
@@jf8350143 Whether it was intentional or not the Institute destabilized the entire Commonwealth between the Broken Mask incident in 2229 and the massacre of the Commonwealth Provisional Government a few years later. We don't know exactly when Shaun took over as Director but the end of the use of the FEV occurred at most only a few years before 2287 with Virgil's escape. So yeah a lot of the current problems in the Commonwealth are due to the Institute and even if the player goes with the Institute's ending it's not clear if the sole survivor will be able to use the Institute to help the Commonwealth.
Nah they're the best hope for a future
I remember playing this and I thought, “Here we are, I’m gonna meet the sick bastard of the Institute.” And a few conversations later he said “I am Shaun.” And I accidentally shot him with Kellogg’s 44 mag. So that’s the end of the story of me finding Shaun.
Good way for it to go
"accidentally"
💀
We both know that there was a spider on him and u panicked
@@barf2432can you really do that!!!!????
Sole Survivor: “You’re aren’t my son, and I’ve been constantly searching for 60 years.”
Father: “Look no further. I am he. Dad, it’s me.”
Sole Survivor: “So anyways, I started blasting...”
Made me laugh. Thanks mate
Sole survivor says the blasting part to nick xd
Lmfaoooooo
I read that in the jokers voice. "Dad it's me! "I don't know why your being like this, I don't know why your saying these things!"
Sole Survivor: "Then who was that guy impersonating Kellogg that I killed? He definitely wasn't 60 years older than the man I saw steal Shaun!"
Father, I am your Father.
Nah
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Father: Dad? *starts to cry a bit*
*a few moments later*
Father: I REMEMBER YOU GOT UP IN MY FACE AND YELLED AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS! WHY?!
(point of reference: Fallout 4 vr full playthrough)
That's not true!! That's impossible!!
Look, I'm your father yo
I killed him without a single word spoken on my first playthrough. Blasted him right away and had to escape. I was so confused, so I google it. I was sooo sad. I only had the autosave like a rookie.
damn bro.. that effing sucks.. I manually save before every decision, no matter how big or small 😂 especially when im trying to persuade in dialogue for more caps LOL. ik im lame
Oh wow ... and since then? Have you played again?
Same
I immediately blasted him with a shotgun as soon as he went through that door, didn't look any thing up and only found out about the truth on my second playthrough, have to say that it made the second time I found him even better because of the really unexpected twist
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who did this
Whenever the institute says this shit i remember that one town with the really smart girl they massacred just because she found a datadisk with critical info. that could have been handled a 100 different better ways but how they went about it reveals their true nature despite what they like to believe they are.
Intentions and self delusions dont matter, how you behave and act matters cause that shows what you will DO and what you actually are when it comes down to it at the end of the day. The means you used defines what happens when you reach the end. They speak of necessity but look at all the actions surrounding their "necessary" actions.
🤨
I found that too and that helped me make my final decision lol
I waited until I found out what they were doing with the people they kidnapped and WHY they were replacing people with synths. After that, I was walking around meeting everybody and smiling thinking "I'm about to kill you all!"
Big talk about being beyond good and evil to a man who waltzed into the center of your facility with max spec power armor and two super powerful weapons with over 1000 ammo for each.
@@h3industrialcomplex220I know, the istitute is bad, but they are the only with the tecnology to rebuild a socety in the wastland. I choose the istitute finale only because I'll become the new leader, so I think the istitute under my character lead will be better.
@@guerrieri90 umm... You see in a Bethesda game once you become the head of an organisation you are still the second in command.
Imagine spending 200 years looking for your kid, but when you finally find him you kill him lol
You Don't Spend 200 Years, You Barely Even Spend One, But That Means 61 Years Since Shaun Was Taken And 61 Years Also Is When You Are Re Frozen, But I Get The Point, The Point Of The Game Is To Find Shaun Lol.
@@perkinsx1410 Good Lord Your Capitalizing Every Word Triggers The Fuck Out Of Me.
@@ErectileSceptile agreed
@frosty still waiting
It’s pizza time I imidiately gun down Shaun when he say her mother is a godamn collateral damage
I just killed father and nothing happens, my mother called the police and she's crying, did anyone encounter the same thing? Is it a bug?
I get it
Anon omg I laughed way harder than I should have
Dont worry, If you pass a few tough charisma checks you might be able to avoid getting sent to jail and gameplay will resume as normal.
Fake and gay
You dun goofed
My first playthrough of fallout 4 started well, however, when I met Shaun. I don’t remember the dialogue but he called the Sole Survivor’s wife collateral damage or something like that. He proceeded to get a Deathclaw gauntlet shoved so far into his chest that he exploded (thanks to bloody mess.) From there, the Sole Survivor went psychotic, we started eating people…… FUN TIME
Saw a clip where a dude got freaked out by Father walking in, and blasted him in the chest with a shotgun before he said a word.
Father: "I come completely unarmed, please let's talk."
His Inventory: "Gun and Amo."
_That's how the Institute works_
Their master liars
amo
you forgot blamco mac n cheese and a silver spoonand 2-10 old world money
That figures. He's the Institute.
Who else was genuinely pissed off the first time you played this and found out the kid you’ve been looking for the ENTIRE game is the leader of the Institute - a place you’ve been taught to hate throughout the game lol
Just killed him lol
I had a crisis. I was all for the Railroad but I had been willing to do anything for my son. The only reason I ended up going Railroad is because Old Shaun was dying anyway and blowing up the Institute gives you Synth Shaun. If Old Shaun wasn't dying though I would've gone Institute because I am Mama Bear.
The plot twist going through so much for someone you love to end up having to hate it
I was more happy to find him, didn’t care about the circumstances.
yeah!!! hand up here.. I didn't like this story at all.. but the game is awesome! i just wish it was a better story
First playthrough, I told him I would not join him and walked out. Got the Minuteman ending. Later learned how many people didn't know how to get that ending at the time.
Would also add that there is a Tesla Science magazine in the Institute that is also worth grabbing if you're a collector.
Imagine that Shaun's father did wake up after ten years found Shaun, only to be killed by the institute to be replaced by a synth to wake up fifty years after Shaun's real dad was killed.
I played a female character, I never thought about the fact that the male character would think that the synth Shaun meant him when he was calling for "Father". That's a nice little touch there.
yeah it really makes the female PC's equivalent line ("Yes, Shaun, it's me, I'm your mother") make much more sense. Obviously that line was written with the male PC in mind, so a 1:1 translation from male to female dialogue option kinda lost something in the line's meaning.
@@renatatostada3318 What? Bethesda designing a game for men and adding female-equivalent dialog in as an afterthought? Never! 😒
@@m0L3ify racist
Female character....how many mods you have to stare at the ass ?
@@flexdon5188 How is that racist in any way? Did you mean sexist?
Father: You can do this Shaun, finally meeting your surviving parent. This is such a great moment I can barely contain my exitement.
*Opens door - gets a shotgun blast in the face before the doors were even completely open*
Lol
he got what he deserved
This gave me a good laugh. Thank you 🤣
Its sad for me because shaun was so excited but he got killed plus he hasn't seen his parent his whole life
In my case it was was a explosive double barrel shotgun when I had bloody mess… I kind of had to scrap his remains off my body after I was done
I gotta say, i was kinda torn between joining the institue or not. So i explored the place and then found this abandoned area with scrapped robots and most importantly mutants taken hostage for experiments. That made me kill Shaun and escape. Gotta say that was kind of a nice experience handed to me just by exploring!
Well, joining the institute whilst playing the minutemen path gives you two factions to lead. Still yet to see the boons personally but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Meanwhile the BoS does the same shit, but somehow they are called the good guys
@@Diego-lt4wm You know... When the first Fallout 4 trailers showed that we could fight the BoS, nothing thrilled me more. I wanted to destroy them from the ending of "Broken Steel" in Fallout 3. With how they took over Project Purity and turned it into everything the Lone Wanderer's parents didn't want it to be. Killing settlers for approaching them about the purified water... Not sharing it with Raiders (not that I'm a fan of Raiders). I mean, what did they think would happen?
No, I'm not a fan of the BoS at all.
@gabriel_the_salubri Agreed , on my third play through I killed Danse and his crew. As I saw them as being no better than the Nazis.
If you go into the police station after killing Danse you will find a holotape belonging to scribe Haylen, and how she even has doubts about joining the BoS.
@@gabriel_the_salubri. BOS are the best faction
I just found out while playing, that if you silently kill father without anyone noticing, then drag his body to where you must exit, nobody will speak on the intercom saying “he dead, how could you do this”, after that if you go a poke around in the systems lab, you can get a courser chip installed into your pipboy giving you access to the institute again.🤯
HOW do you sneak a corpse up the freaking glass elevator without anyone noticing? Ah, Bethesda Logic is great sometimes
😂😂😂
How you sneak the corpse without anyone noticing
Presses E repeatedly: SHaaaun!! Shaun-- SHAAAUN Shaun! SHAAUN!!!!!
Hahahahahahaha
Heavy rain Easter egg
Berleezy approves.
Only heavy rain ppl understand
Jaaason
“Only a synth deals in absolutes, I will do what I must.” - Obi-wan
Yeeesssss
You were my son Shaun! I loved you!
Brotherhood Knight: I’ve learned a terrible truth, I believe Paladin Danse is a synth lord.
Maxon: A synth lord?!
So Obi-Wan is a Jedi... "Knight" of the Brotherhood, eh? :D
@@adamfarkas5327 The Brotherhood are the absolutes
There used to be a glitch where if you timed it right and killed Father the very first instant you could, the Institute wouldn't turn hostile and you could explore it and do the related quests, of course you couldn't progress the faction quests without him so eventually you had to shoot somebody in the institute to make it go hostile.
It's not a glitch you just have to kill him without witness
Fun fact: the syringer or something like that is a weapon that shoots syringe and only affects humans
Father is inmune to it
brooooooooooooo
That makes sense because when I looted his corpse I found a synth component
It doesn't make sense since the raider synth(didn't realize later) was actually getting affected by my syringe rifle.
@@Aramaru-yx9hz could be differences between models within the same generation like the A and B variants of pitboy 5k's or an oversight on the devs part
When synth shaun screams for father there should be an option for female sole survivor to say that "fathers is dead"
It is an option
suprise mudafuga really?
@@cygnusone6442 yeah if you push A or whatever for PS4 she'll say something like "daddy gone but mommy here"
Wut
Fathers the synth
If you join the institution they should start referring to you as "Grandfather". That would be funny.
Underated comment 😂😂😂
Lol "Biological Grandfather"
this is exactly how my first playthrough went, it actually made me cry and reflect on how I've always shot first and asked questions later when playing games, since I always play on the hardest difficulty when playing games. now even when playing on the hardest difficulty when playing games new and old, I always make an effort to stop and think before ending someone's life, even if they are reminiscent of a "final boss". so, fallout 4 had made a permanent impact on my life and how i game. say what you will about fallout 4, but this ending is engraved into my brain.
Unfortunetly , there's only ONE ending
Just wait until you play Fallout: New Vegas.
@@TrouvatkiDePercusion right on brother. i already have, and can confirm that this line of thinking would have been nice when i played new vegas. lol. I was quite the murder hobo back then.
I did this my first playthrough. After everything I'd seen of the institute and how callus he was about Nora being dead and how he only let me out to satisfy his curiosity and see how I'd do I decided he was an evil man and no son of mine so he ate a shotgun and then blasted my way out.
I literally pickpocketed ONE synth and the whole institute turned hostile on me 😭😭
What where you expecting
Just reload a save from before that happened
w o w .
Always quick save before u do shit
Tried it in real life I couldn’t load my quick save and now I got a year in prison
Giving the secret dialgue, "After all I've done, the lengths which I've gone to give you a new home, a new life."
What has he done for you before that point? Confronted his father's murderer? Crossed the glowing sea? Killed a courser? That's all the player.
He had opportunities to bring you in. He could have ordered Kellog to try to bring you in. The courser, well, wasn't there for you but it could have also offered to take you in.
It's pretty much the opposite of what he says, pretty much everything he has done before you actually enter the Institute has been to hinder you getting in.
The entirety of the main questline up until meeting Father has been his design, apart from the Sole Survivor's efforts and of those aiding them to infiltrate the Institute-- that he left to chance because, as Father states himself, letting you out of 111 was an experiment. Synth crows and seagulls observe and track your location in every place you see them. Father arranged to have Kellogg and child-synth Shaun appear in Diamond City before moving them to Fort Hagen knowing the likelihood of the Sole Survivor pursuing those leads. Father's preferred outcome of this experiment culminates in Kellogg being taken out of the picture potentially allowing the SS to fill the role he left, as well as filling the role of Director, but that, I assume was decided a bit later, after making sure the SS could be trusted.
The entirety of the main questline up until meeting Father has been his design, apart from the Sole Survivor's efforts and of those aiding them to infiltrate the Institute-- that he left to chance because, as Father states himself, letting you out of 111 was an experiment. Synth crows and seagulls observe and track your location in every place you see them. Father arranged to have Kellogg and child-synth Shaun appear in Diamond City before moving them to Fort Hagen knowing the likelihood of the Sole Survivor pursuing those leads. Father's preferred outcome of this experiment culminates in Kellogg being taken out of the picture potentially allowing the SS to fill the role he left, as well as filling the role of Director, but that, I assume was decided a bit later, after making sure the SS could be trusted.
If you really pay attention to what he’s done, read the logs and files, you’d know the institute is a completely twisted organization that hides behind science to complete its dirty work. They treat everything with indifference and have no conscience. To them the end always justifies the means.
@@NemeanLion- I know, its more the dialogue, he claims to have done so much for you but really he puts you through hell to test if you can reach him.
He could have sent a courser to unfreeze you and teleport you back to the Institute, but he didn't.
Might have been interesting that way, you start in the Institute, everything seems good. Then for some reason you need to visit the Commonwealth, on the outside it's a wasteland, talking to people reveals what the institute are doing, destroying settlements, replacing people. They have everything they need but they still choose to make life harder for the rest of the Commonwealth.
Looking at the whole thing, the Institute are evil. They are the bad guys. Though having the first hour or so after leaving the Vault being in there with them and hearing their logic.Might be a strong first impression. As it is you are pretty much guaranteed a bad first impression of them. I remember the first I heard of the Institute was Nat talking about them. and, well... she was right. They have it good but they make lie worse for the Commonwealth. After talking to her I never thought they were the good guys.
@@angusking1593 Yeah, I suppose that is Bethesda’s style, to make everything not so black and white and to put you in situations where it’s hard to make a good decision. Sometimes even a no win situation. The institute seems like a more clear case of a twisted organization than the others though.
My first play through I killed him instantly because I figured he was lying and I wanted to save my son. Then was confused when the game wouldn’t let me rescue him sitting in the room and didn’t have any recent saves to revert back to lol
Same here! I always planned on going in guns blazing and saving Shaun.... The old man was dead the second the door opened, before he even spoke
I actually did this on my first play through and funny enough I guess they closed all the doors on me and I couldn’t open anything so I was just stuck in the small chamber room. I eventually got bored and had to restart and sided with the Institute.
_"You killed him! How could you do that?! He was your son!"_
Oh gee, I dunno, maybe it's because he's an evil bastard? In their efforts to create better synths, the Institute ran the FEV project where they kidnapped people, forcibly turned them into super mutants, and then unleashed them on the Commonwealth. Once they found Shaun and used his DNA to perfect the synths, the FEV project was obsolete, yet even as the director, Father continued to keep it going. For no reason whatsoever. And when Virgil became head of the project and filed a formal complaint, Father completely ignored it. He doesn't give two shits about the people on the surface.
Also: That old man is clearly *not* my son
613 Commonwealth EXACTLY HES A SYNTH
Expired Milk mama Murphy is a prophet u dummy 😂 she prolly saw it in the future so if she says it then ima take it as the truth, she has proven time and time again that she can see the future (she can even give u a recall code for the courser u fight to get the chip)
The institute is evil, their goals are evil, their methods are evil, their mind set is evil. Think about what people discuss when you walk around there, their experiments. Father literally says good and bad are irrelevant lol. How many people thought about their work like Virgil? And even him only reports about the FEV program, what about every other thing? They have no morals, just pretend a good goal to justify their methods. They are bad, period. Don't know what to discuss about it.
And he is a synth or at least I think he is the bleed out syringe doesn’t work on him on my next play through I’ll check his rad resist with vats
When I first played the game I was so furious with him that I killed him with the same revolver that killed my wife after I found out who he was. I killed my way out of the institute and then went to the nearest bridge and threw the revolver into the water.
Watch out batman
Huh, I sold that thing the instant I could. I don't want kellogs stupid gun, i got a better one anyways (a lucky .44)
I should try this the next playthrough
@Charles Johnson This thing is absolutely devastating on it's own. Either you can use the crit with the .44 itself or switch to another gun, but even without perks this thing can pack the punch
Why the hell would you throw keloggs revolver away dumbass
I tried that and it worked: When shawn stands on the buidling outside and speaks about the dead commonwealth he will teleport back inside, in that moment i just pulled my revolver, gave him a header and he died while teleporting in. You know, sending a message the right way.
I recall killing father the first time I met him (after quicksaving) only to have the synths that spawn to stop you leaving afterward multiply/bug into an army of over 200+ crammed in the top teleportation room.
Father kills Father (1 year later, and damn thanks for all the likes)
DivineDLM so suicide?
Josephi Krakowski Woosh
Jake Johnson whoosh
DivineDLM damn daniel
#Who'sYoDaddy
4:28 That akward moment when your Girl comes walking out of Father's room and he's talking about keeping an open mind.
Funny thing is, that entire line of dialog is exactly what you would say to your significant other or friendwhen they catch u cheating too.
😏
@@pirategamer3243 "I'm Father"
Who is she? She's a babe, need her as my companion
@@ditkacigar89ify Looks like it's a modded version of the junkie girl you meet at the combat zone (I can't remember her name atm, I don't like companions)
Ever notice how the institute and minutemen call you their leader but someone else makes all the decisions and you're just the runner? Ya I think the institute created Shawn to manipulate the Lone Survivor. Either that or far too much was cut from Fallout 4, like becoming the leader of the brotherhood or uniting factions together. Killing Father should be a much more obvious kinda choice considering how much conspiracy is in Fallout 4 about synths and shit. Not trusting him and killing him should have opened up a whole new side of the conflict with the institute.
That's why with the nuka world dlc, I finally decided to to take over the commonwealth as a raider. As general of the minutemen, I'm always being bombarded with settlement quests that I don't have choice to do because I could lose the settlement if I don't. Cause, to hell with my current quests right? I mean, it's not like their aren't atleast 50 other minutemen who could it. And you get 98-102 caps for doing so. "I follow your lead general" then proceeds to tell me I need to deal with some raiders or mutants.
@@johnathanbotto742that’s why I only make a few settlements, I have no problem losing the settlements I don’t care for. But I always play on survival mode, because F4 was made to be played on that, it makes it a lot better. Also what I’m starting to realize is that the conspiracy is: the institute were going in vaults and looking for pre-war people who were of the “pure blood”, and using them or their children to cross the genetics between a human and synth, in order to make them one and humans give birth to synths naturally/ vice versa. Father released us having realized we are a “lone survivor” and wanted to see the results of what we could do and possibly use us if possible, they were always watching and even deacon was on the whole thing. The institute had eyes everywhere, even in the brotherhood, the war is just confusion as the institute slip in and overtake everything.
There's also a magazine on one of the balconies that buffs dogmeat. If you're interested in collectables, thats arguably the most prized one.
Shaun speaks as if he's above you
Lol
Shaun! You are grounded!
I am 60 years old, you have no authority over me
GROUNDED!
AS I said, I a-
GO TO YOUR ROOM!
Sorry dad...
@@0zer0ne1 "CORRECTION, YOU ARE 260"
"HOWEVER, I am 30 years on top of even that, with the perks of looking young! YOU ARE STILL BUT MY SON HOWEVER SO DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD!"
"OkAy dAD gOSh."
Like everyone in the Institute.
@Alfredo Del Pablo Father: "You can't ground me!"
SS: "Why not?"
Father: "Because I'm *already* grounded... *in a tomb 6 feet below!"*
What happens if you kill father immediately:
HE WOULD DIE
Indeed
Hmm yes, the floor here is very floor
Really!!!!!
@@jdmnissan R.I.P Gabe
@John R all my homies hate f4, NV is where it's @
I remember playing this game on Launch and I said to my friend before I left the vault "It could have been years since they last thawed me out. For all I know Shaun could be an old man by now."
I guess the story really was predictable, or I just made an extremely lucky guess.
Also, I did find out the hard way when I ventilated Shaun the second he walked into the room. lol oops
“You believed 10 years had passed”
Even when I first played this game this line annoyed me because I didn’t believe the child Kellog had was Shaun, I thought it was a different kid. I questioned everything and didn’t trust Father. I didn’t think much time had passed until the Father said the truth.
i know old but my headcannon is that the institute took Shaun, teleported him took his dna and then offed him. so father was a synth lying the whole time trying to make the lone wanderer believe him. because the lone wanderer, alone (no pun intended) had the ability to unite the commonwealth, or build a big enough army to destroy the institute.
@@lycanhussar that’s not a terrible idea but I disagree with it. As presented the Synths aren’t super amazing, maybe that’s just a lore vs gameplay and story issue, but I doubt the institute would allow a synth to lead it even if they were as intelligent and capable as humanity.
No matter what you choose, Father talks too much.
Never figured out why people think Preston is the most annoying faction leader. Sure, his quests are annoying, but he doesn't try to talk your ear off.
Yeah, I mean, Father starts speaking to you on the intercom the moment you set foot in that
elevator, and just won't shut the hell up until you've made your decisions and fucked off.
Not only is he speaking to you nonstop, but the entire Institute has to listen to his holier-than-thou
monologue through loudspeakers as well. No matter how private a conversation may be, EVERYONE
must hear it in case Father shares some impressive piece of wisdom. Which he always does...
Asshole.
That's why I shot him in the face when he said "Let's talk" about 10minutes into already talking 🙄
Bring this man more of my finest thumbs ups!
There are people in Bentley outfits who go in there and do random shit
[Father walks through doorway]
Sole Survivor: *YOU MONSTER!*
(Kills Father with a cinderblock on a fist)
A man of culture I see
That's exactly what i did with unarmed build, i sided with the bos and i already knew who father was however the entire institute going against me was unexpected, thankfully I had a fat man and drugs so I killed everyone I saw, I remember entering the elevators and when coming out fighting LOT of synths anyway I reached to escape and the only thing that Maxson had to say was that I didn't take the scientist and that the Institute was in alarm
I see you too were drawn to the video by the legacy of the most handsome and always daring Mrs. Mr. Sir Lord Captain Doctor... (2 hours later) ... Professor Fairy-General honorary Lieutenant bachelor... (4 more hours later) ... ex-Husband former Father Richard "Dick" "Raptor" Ravagèr III. First of his name, last of his kind...despite being "the Third".
That immediately came to my mind
The institutes real purpose was to put humans into virtual reality machines like in Fallout 3, they get put in and lights go out. They wake up, hands bound, on a cart with a horse thief, a stormcloak soldier and the true high king of Skyrim, Ulfric. A synth then whispers into their pod as they’re in VR “it just works”
I watched this 5 years ago and it’s getting recommended again. Let get it fallout community!! Love to see it back in action!!
At first I was like "why does Shaun look different?" then I looked at ESO's character.
Holy shit his appearance is based on player customization. That is an awesome detail.
I thought everyone know that already. I wonder if im using modded eyes or facial mods will change shaun’s face as well.
@@Half-Vampire That is a very interesting question
My first playthrough I had a black character so I thought Shaun was always black and my second play through I was shocked he was white haha
But Father looks the same.
@@personman1148 That raises some questions
I always wished their was an option to take over the Institute with another faction. IE convincing the brotherhood to instead use the Institute as a new base of operations + utilize any technology they find there.
theres no options to do anything
Considering that the Brotherhood absolutely hate synths and the Railroad is against everything the Institute does. I doubt they would do that.
PandAches Gaming I'd understand the Railroad or the Minutemen not wanting to utilize the technology and instead destroy it, but the Brotherhood are technological fanatics. They want to harness and control any and all technology in the Fallout universe. I don't think it's too far fetched of an idea of atleast giving the player an option to persuade Maxson to instead capture the Institute and study it's technology. Heck, I think them destroying it at all seems to be a bit outlandish for the Brotherhood to do at all. I think it should've been vice versa, with the player having to convince Maxson to destroy the Institute and not save it.
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When you side with The Institute, there is no option to make them good guys. You're their leader and you can't order them to stop fucking with people on the surface, for some reason.
The Institute created artificial life. Machine's more capable than any single man. They are used as janitors and errand boys.
The Institute clearly has the resources to mass produce stim packs and rad-away, and could even try to figure out new ways to combat radiation. But they don't.
The Institute could surely create unmanned drones to spy on the surface, but they'd rather kidnap and replace people and make people on the surface hate them.
The Institute could use their synths to set up schools that would teach the surface dwellers how to farm better, how to create more stable structures, and how to clean their god damn settlements. They don't.
I hate everything about Bethesda's lazy writing when it comes to this faction. It's so god damn clear they only wanted to hamfist a villain into their game and randomly landed on "Evil Scientists".
Finally getting back into FO4 and don't remember mush. So really appreciate your research and explanations. Thanks!!
It's sort of weird that the Sole Survivor is technically Grandfather, the grandfather of synths, and majority of the Institute's growth.
Darth Vader but reversed
I AM YOUR FATHER, FATHER
Son:
Grampa?!
It would be like Luke I am your son
yeah the big reveal in star was is "no i am your father"... in fallout 4 the big reveal is basically "No i am your son".
@@zacharyrox2227 Vader, I am your son*
“You killed him! How could you do that?! He was your son!”
Us reacting to it the first time: sure, that was my son whom you all stole from me and killed his mother, how am I suppose to know.
I actually did this my very first play through. I was extremely mad when I saw the robot shaun because I thought that was him so I immediately shot him with the intentions of escaping with shaun. I was very confused afterwards
4:46 was my favorite part of the video. I love how the camera immediately snaps to his face for cinematic effect.
Did join the institute but thought father might be a synth so assassinated him with a silenced gun. He wasn't a synth and silenced guns don't work in the institute which meant all hell broke loose.
Jim mij they do work I’ve assassinated three synths for their armor with the deliverer they just don’t work on father I don’t think
Defalt Skin I killed father got out just fine undetected
I killed him and they never realized, I walked past all of them
Killed him nobody knew then went on a rampage and killed everyone that i could why fuck if i know.
White Skittle thats because he let you go then you killed him, same as me
I remember first time I played through this part, my daughter was in the room watching. I saw the kid, tried to talk to him, Father came in, I went, "AH!" and blasted him with a shotgun. Not too long after, we discovered he was the son, and we laughed our asses off!
Im just gonna asume your daughter bought a shotgun afterwards , just in case 😂😂😂
11:50 sounds like markiplier when u kill father lol
4:07 You're gon sit there and lie to me that it's Shaun grownup? The boy doesn't leave the facility, right? Where that tan come from and why is he so tan? It's all a *R.U.S.E*
ESO: "what happens if you kill father immediately?"
*gets a fat man launcher and shoots a mini Nuke at father*
only appropriate if you have the crazy dolphin mod.
I like dolphins
My first build was a Fatman build. And I one shot bosses. Like a hot knife through butter.
I had one of them in Fallout 3. It was so useful later on when the Albino Radscorpions started spawning. Those were tough bastards to kill, but I could take them down with a single well-aimed mini nuke.
When I killed him there were so many synths below my game almost crashed. It was also the first time I used Jet too cause there were like 30 synths piled down there
That's how it starts. You have been a jet addict for at least a year now. Anytime you get steel and fertilizer you can't help but make jet.
@@TheIrishRushin
Players with the scrap the settlement mod: *sweats in 3,000 jet*
My game did crash. I cleared something like 30 or 40 eradicators by the teleport but then I saw there were maybe even more at the basement, so I went back down to finish them off and after 30 or 40 then my game crashed. I don’t think they expect players to be able to handle that kind of volume and force, but it’s actually pretty easy if you have max demolition perk in those narrow rooms. One grenade will clear an entire room of high level synths pretty easy if your aim is good and you don’t panic.
Spray and pray go brrr
Flamer time babyeee
this is absolutely insane! nice video.
I didn't even realize that it would change the storyline literally as soon as he was done talking I shot him with my combat shotgun
How to know if hes really shaun: make both of you characters Black skinned and if father is not Black he is a scammer
Or the wife is a scammer. Whoopsie.
You can make both of them black at the beginning, if he still isn't black then you stole the vault salesman's child
The Bearded Baby or your wife cheated
He's always black in my play through, I make my wife Latina and myself black and Shaun is black.
Except in my game I'm white and the baby was black......
I remember even when I found out Father was Shaun the first time I was like “k? I never cared about Shaun in the beginning so why should I care now?”
"Whoops, looks like I spent way too long on sidequests. Thanks, Preston(!)"
That's the problem with a story that requires the player character to care about a character that the player doesn't necessarily care about at all, especially since the player spends almost no time with Shaun before having to run to the vault (heck the player probably cares more about the other spouse if they spent any time changing their look). It's made even worse that the player can go side quest or get involved in settlement building for as long as they want while the player character should want nothing more than to find out what happened to Shaun and/or get revenge for the death of their spouse.
@@jcohasset23 It really doesn't help that its in a post apocalypse too where you're supposed to feel like just basic survival is much tougher. I'd genuinely feel more motivated to track down the raiders if they had stolen my clean water or something and the game started with just trying to survive instead of constantly trying to tell me to care about shaun even though literally the only thing i know about the kid is that his name is shaun.
@@suiway Some of the problem is it's not that difficult to survive even on survival mode. Food and water are fairly plentiful, especially upon doing anything with the settlement building, with saving only limited to sleeping or exit saves really the hindering factor. 3 steel makes essentially an unlimited water source for the player with a water fountain or sink. Sure that's in the Vault-tec dlc but even a basic water pump provides the player with an unlimited source of water.
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nate/Nora being focused on Shaun, though the story isn't strong enough for the player to care all that much about their infant that they've spent all of like 5 seconds with in-game before the bombs fell. I think what hurts it is the fact that right after the player is given their first clue to go search for him in Diamond City it also opens up the Minutemen and BoS quests to spend as long as one wants on those, sidequests, settlement building, and exploring but when the player ultimately does more of the main quest the game acts like we didn't do any of that. The game does allow you to hunt down Kellogg for revenge but the character is still doing it to find Shaun and the player can't ask questions like "why". It creates dissonance between what the player wants and what the character wants.
Fallout 4 did terrible job with family relationship. I bet most players thinks Preston is character's lost family
Fun fact I guess it's confirmed Nate was shown in fallout 1, in the opening scene he's one of the soldiers in power armor who laughs when his partner murders a civilian.
I instantly killed father after the talk and forgot to put in the network scanner instead went on a rampage now i can't leave the institute without striders waiting on the top floor
"The length's to which I've gone to give you a new life, to make us a family..." Yes, for a few days until he announces he's dying of cancer and you realize that this was all to slake his guilt and free his father while he still could, before he died and nobody cared what happened to you. Ever.
Guilt? More like curiosity. He probably wanted to see what weird way you would die, and well, you didn't
@@midgetman4206 Father was raised by an evil organization, this gave him many social disorders. He may say freeing you was a experiment but thats just his way of masking feelings or justifing freeing you. He could have picked anyone for this experiment but he chose to free his surviving parent, and it was something that he probably thought about for years but his impending death spured him into action. I do believe deep down evil people were once good but become corrupted and twisted. No different for Shaun
Wow, this is so true
There should be an option that when we're aiming at him , he stumbles back and says " FATHER , STOP , I AM YOUR SON. "
ESO glad to watch FO4 content you have done :-)
I remember coming to the institute for the first time. First play through. That was a unique moment I'll never forget.
"what if you kill father immediately?"
wrong...
"what if you do the most obvious option ever?"
I did kill him :)
I really did want to blow his brains out. I went through all that shit, just to find out my son is a 60-year-old man who controls the Institute.
@@mcnugget4908 ur weak, I just headshoted him and run away
You know it made sense when father said he had no emotional attachment to his mom since he only knew her when he was an infant... So I said same.
Forgot to get Virgil's syrum before blowing it up... RIP
Brandon Chilvers shit you just made me realize I did as well... 3 weeks ago
Thanks for reminding me to do that
Is what i would say if i didnt do the same
Brandon Chilvers holy shit, it's been three years , virgils probably like 'wtf happened o her getting my serum'
Jesus Christ am I the only person who remembered.
@@salh3326 Virgil just assumes your dead.
I did and already know. The game makes you go backwards locking you out of the facility. You cannot get the goodies laying around like the gun from the shop, the magazine, the bobblehead, or the serum for Virgil.
I always wondered though, like the DLC for Fallout 3, I wonder if there is a way of saving his life. It is obvious he was acting recklessly due to his ill condition of not having long to live, but I wonder if there is a cure in the wasteland for his condition, where he turns out to be a good guy at the end and let's the Railroad do as they please, as you find out that Shawn is really behind it all, and released them on purposely in secret against the older faction who ran the Institute before he became the director. He is the main protagonist son after all. It wouldn't surprise me if that was an alternative ending, you can save Nate or Nora depending if you didn't open the Cryopod they were held in, and somehow mixed the anti-aging syrum with some scum recipe from Far Harbor, then mixed it with the anti-rat poisoning cure. Of course, you would have to let Austin die, sadly.
the moment shaun came out, and revelaed himself, i shot him. Moments after i saw the bot, and then he came out. I just didnt care. The revelation “ohh the institute is so terrible but heres the catch - Its your son.” I didnt care about an infant that disappeared almost instantly. Fallout4s premise was so weak it just didn’t matter to me
I noticed that Father has always the eyes color like yours. Like this is the good path to choose in game
He's also always your skin color too
@@justincorbett3792 Not quite. He's always a mixture of your skin colour and your spouse's
@@CryptP except the time I made both of them pale as fuck to test that theory and Shaun was still way darker than either of them 🤔 so I'm not sure that's entirely true
@@darth-severus it could be a bug or smth to do with mod content
Or maybe shaun just ain't your kid lmao
@@CryptP I assume it's just the last one, that kid just ain't mine
"Everything you should grab before you leave." There's a magazine you forgot...
Father: I am your son. I am Shaun.
Sole Survivor: Ew, no. **Blasts him with Laser Musket**
I always hated the fact that the institute could not be taken over, instead had to be blown up. Like why wouldn't you want a safe place that makes food and clean water. You could decommission the synth program. Like it would have made a hella of base whee you could only tele in and out...
So on my first playthrough Fallout 4 I was completely loyal to Brotherhood of Steel I followed every order exactly and when I first entered the Institute I knew I was in the home of the enemy and as soon as I saw father I shot him and left. it wasn't until my second playthrough that I realized I had killed my character son
Correction: someone, who *claims* to be your son. Bethesda had never written any dialogue about him proving it, just that your character bends their ass the moment he makes this claim:D
TheArklyte yeah that's something I thought about before but still in my first playthrough I killed him before he could even finish a sentence
TheArklyte if you change your characters hair color/skin color Fathers will match. He’s shaun
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Also the subtle facial features. Father on my character is just as handsome as my own.
JDGaming
Facial reconstruction is a thing even in Diamond City, Father would have no problem making himself look like old Shaun
Man i wish this game had a cut scene where we would of been standing at the dead body of our son and then the guy comes in and says you killed him he was your son and our man would of turned the gun at him and would of said "My son died sixty years ago" BANG BANG BANG BANG kills the dude and then precedes to demolish everyone...
Cringe
Well, somehow you've topped their lazy writing.
What are you 11?
What? Please repeat in english
billy b j.
I allways wondered how old kellog was when you finaly kill him
First time, I listened to ‘Father,’ thought about it... then blew him away. I was seriously loaded with fire power and proceeded to blast my way through waves of synths and by luck found my way to the transporter room.
"Meh, this weapon isn't really that good. It's just a collectable." *proceeds to blast away everything that moves *
@CD Smith *casually notes that in mind*
@Mark Seven plasma cell
I used five crank musket through the whole game, basically with a critical on very hard I one shotted everyone, I blew up Vertibird with 2 shots, the downsides are it's slow as hell and takes x ammo depending if you use the full power.
@@BITCOIlN Dude, the 6 crank musket sounds like thunder
There's a fully auto
I just did this for the first time as part of my evil play through. Honestly, it felt like a natural reaction for an enraged, vengeful father who was being emotionally jerked around with that kid synth stunt. And of course, the old man had to be lying...right?
Killing your kid is pretty evil tho..
I did it on my good playthrough
Yup, if you’re role playing you’re shooting anyone walking through a door with your son captive.
The first playthrough I literally shot him the moment he entered the room but paused and reloaded the game thinking he's probably important to the story
I made this choice during my first run through. I still had to go back and defeat the institute, and I kept young synth Sean. My logic: "If he is my son, then it's my job to take him out. I brought him into the world, I'm the one who has to take him out."
thats some twisted logic there
Thats fair haha
A year late but I agree with that sentiment fr. Right or wrong? It was necessary
That’s like when your mom is super pissed and she goes “I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it!” Only me?
That was my logic right before blowing up the institute on my second playthrough, playing as Nora i shot him after getting the code to shut down the Synths, that decision still weights in my soul to this day
Father. I, am your father .
MrMasterDebate hmmmmmmmmmm
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Takar Nich highground
Hey father I found your father cuz I heard you like fathers so now you can father with your father while you father.
the question arises who's hand do you have to cut off now? :P
the first time i played i remember walking into the room, talking to child synth shaun and being confused and exiting dialogue, then hearing footsteps approach the door. i exclaimed "oh no someones coming" and pulled out a suppressed combat shotgun and immediately unloaded it into fathers face as soon as the door opened. you see I had assumed finding my son would include some sort of boss fight or showdown like kellog and i was just so intent on getting the drop on a technologically superior enemy that i blew off my own son's head.
there is a script/command in oblivion called "essentialdeathreload" or something like that, where if an essential character dies you are shown a text box then your load menu, forcing you to revet to the last save. i thought it would be that
I am... Your father.
what?
No, you're pregnant and I'm the father.
WHAT?
No, uh... You're pregnant and I'm the baby.
WHAT!?
Smosh reference?
Gunawan Putera yea
it was funny on smosh channel not here
@@gloriousx9721 that was actually kinda funny. didnt know shit about smosh.
I killed him instantly. My game kept crashing because as soon as I went down that elevator thousands of synths spawned there and I had to fight my way out.
Kzip247 same 😂😂 my game kept crashing. Even mini nukes didn’t work
Plot twist, the Institute is what crashes your game because it hates that you killed Father.
Me too....I just kept killing them... Melee style with a rocket bat
it was so fucking hard kept dying thought id fucked my save up lol
I just blasted my way through the elevator, and escaped, after that I felt like I just missed out a very interesting part of the game, fortunately I saved the game before I got transported so I just loaded that shit up.
On my playthrough, when I realized Father dies, I went back with full gear and annihilated the institute. When I came back with the Minute Men, everything was overgrown and all that was left to protect the place were synths. Robot Shaun was still there and all, do that was good
This is the most deserved outcome for Father being such a terrible son tbh
You might be going through a lot with finding out your son is old and is the leader of an evil organization...
But you've leveled up on your pipboy!