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I just tried this with a Baofeng radio and a scanner and within 5 minutes everything worked! Thank you!
Honestly you don't know how happy it makes me to see someone who's actually clever enough to make this from watching the video. There have been countless people commenting who had no clue on how to set this up and wanted detailed step by step instructions even though I roughly showed how it works in the video. So thank YOU for being one of the few people who use their brain.
this is like instant encryption setup. pretty sick.
Please please please help us. we are an Youth Cadet Program in South Africa. We have a community policing project that we busy setting up for youth from various areas. We have baofeng radios for the boys on the ground, but to link back to our HQ and between the various units I was thinking of using zello interfaced to the 2 way radios. Can you please help me with this. Ive got no clue how to start even. can you get me on facebook or via our websit www.shr.org.za my facebook facebook.com/wdcs67 then we can exchange numbers and email. will be much appreciated
Walter, get someone smart to watch this video and they should be able to see how it's done.
Thanks a lot for your videos! especially on the md-380, they've helped me a lot! I'm going to use this as I work in the arctic where there's no cell service but I have internet at the hotels. The towns are so small range isn't a problem. Zello uses almost no data so its perfect. To anyone who think this is pointless your missing the point entirely.
Thanks for the nice comment
Your video inspired me to setup my own ROIP using a Radio-Tone gateway and a Baofeng portable radio. It has become a very useful tool.
Kevin Leui Thanks for the comment. I checked out your channel, it looks like it works really well!
+rad
iosification
Where did you find your roip gate way and how much did it cost you?
Works for me with my Baofeng BF-888S, I had to program it to match the exact channel I want, and it works!
Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for this! I appreciate your insight and creative problem solving!
Forgive me if I missed this in the video, but why is it necessary to use a scanner AND the handheld radio? Why can you not just use the receive "headphone" jack on the radio as the input for the computer in conjunction with the mic jack (from computer output) used for transmit?
very clever, you've just made a PMR version of IRLP / Echolink / Dstar system for free!
When transmitting from radio to phone I get a lot of crackling and its almost unreadable, however when talking from phone to radio its crystal clear. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
you could do that if you had a cable that split it so you could plug one cable into the radio and it splits to mic and speaker, but I don't have a cable like that so have to do it this way.
I got a lot of questions :
- what is the "converter" ?
- does the computer run some program specially made for this application ?
- could this be used at a long range (the cellphone calling from let say 30 miles, and the talky-walky near the computer at the other end ?)
- what is the scanner for ? I got several Yaesu VX7 and VX8 but the scan avoids the frequencies of cellphones
- a flow chart could be useful to understand how the whole works
This is cool Ben, have you seen those PTT mics for using with zello on a smart phone? They're bluetooth connected. They're over 50 dollars though which is way too steep. For less than 20 I'd give it a go.
Yeah they look really good and they should have loud audio as well. It would make zello seem more usable for serious applications
Definitely! Just a shame about the price though
Yeah they're not as simple as normal speaker mics though, because they have to have all the bluetooth circuitry, so I'd say a cost of $50 is not that excessive.
I might get one sometime and try it
But what I like about Zello it record your conversations but the traditional walkie-talkie does not.
Like I said in the video, it is caused by the vox. Therefore it can't be stopped unless you don't use vox, and use some other way to key the radio.
i liked your zello vid of aug 3 2013, found it useful as one can use many radio systems with this . in the states we have frs and 49 mhz would be a cool thing to check out . i c u still have 140 mhz in the uk. i thought that was to dissapear :(
Hi.
So how do you do this with an iPhone with zello installed. Do you heed wires? I have vox on walkie talkie. Zello on the phone. But they don't link. Thanks.
By now, you would have adjusted the audio level being sent to Zello, etc. to reduce distortion.
A level limiter would make more sense in a product ver of this solution.
Slick set-up. But couldn’t it be done with the HT alone, without the scanner? Thanks!
Yes it could! I was just using the equipment I had available at the time. I didn't have a way to separate the mic and speaker connections on the HT.
Ive got the leads and the Baofeng UV5R's but cannot get this to work. My PC is an XP. What sort of settings do I need for VOX (level) and does the top or bottom connector on the baofeng go to red or green please ?
yep, says in the video as well
What if somebody call you? and at the same time somebody is trying to talk to you with that radio? i still do not get the distance (range) part, is it by the connection of an antanna via to the radio station that you're using? or what? or is it between two radio with a long antanna to receive radio signal?
Nice set-up well done this would work nice in Australia to if we did not have repeaters, but have never have thought of this idea 73 de VK4FABB
What am I doing wrong? Using a baofeng uv5r or wouxun uv8d radios they just key up when i turn them on.
how to connek walkie talkie to the phone
Really nice vid radiosification , thanks for sharing it
Hello warlike talkie
How to disable noice that coming out from the phone after transmiting?
If I am in the middle of a desert with a radio & computer and access to a repeater, can I talk to a phone in the city ?
Very nice job man , really
Im about to setup a listen only channel, sort of like a scanner feed and before i set up everything would i only need the speaker plugged into my Pc or would I still need complete setup like this
You would need the audio side of the radio into the microphone side of the PC to do a listen only feed which you could then listen to via your smartphone on Zello
Man, thanks for this video. I am thinking of using single BF777 instead of scaner/radio combo (Hmmm, or RTL scanner?). And I am wondering, if that Android app will work on my Blackberry (wow, I just find they have BB app! Like it!). This should be fun project for upcoming week. So once again - Thank You!
It should definitely work fine with a single radio. I just didn't have the right connectors to do it that way in this video. Good luck
Can this be done from the mobile app
It sounds like I could walk my dog locally with my uv5r and communicate to my pmr antenna, put it down the internet and speak on Zello? The alternative is to just use it to listen to fm radio as apart from one person in my area (who just goes on to discourage anyone new from the hobby) there’s no one to chat to
In that case why not just use Zello directly? Using a crosslink like this will only give you worse audio and unreliable connection
Why aren't you running the mic of the one radio into the computer? Wouldn't that make this work without the need for a scanner?
Nvm I see this is covered down below - Thanks!!!
Try it with the Signalink USB interface u will get better audio...
But then it would not be cheap would it.....
The whole idea is to make it from parts I already had, not to buy expensive equipment.
same frequency on radio scanner?
hi, awesome video :) but I have a problem with this kind of setup - my radio keeps broadcasting even after zello transmission stops and after that its always tx'ing until TOT. Do you have any idea what the problem might be? (radio - baofeng uv82 or bf888s). Thanks!
1st - check VOX setup. 2nd - check wiring diagram on miklor site (I still do not know, how some radios can work with standard jack to jack cable - pinout of notebook do not fit with pinout of radio - V+ and MIC. Still, some radios works well).
How about using RT-roip or Signalink?
Crowd sourcing question: If I am in the middle of a dessert with no cellular or wifi coverage, can I send a message by piggy backing a nearby user who has cellular or WiFi ?.. This a technique used by marine VFF distress call - daisy chain. Same is also used by TILE bluetooth key finder. I can locate my lost key in New York even though I m in LA. In other word: does Zello apps enable a cell phone to listen to other phone 4G or 3G protocol without a cell tower ?
The Zello app does not allow that, no. However you can create a wifi hotspot on most phones which lets another device use the cellular internet connection via that phone. Zello would work fine over that.
no, the phone itself will not talk to the other phone over 3G/4G - the protocol doesn't allow it. You could - at least in theory - use one of these MESH network devices or apps, jumpiung on/over all phones in range, so they will let you route your HT -> zello call to the internet and then further to the zello in the other phone.
(one of these interesting projects is The Serval Mesh, but sadly this is very underdeveloped area - there is no incentive where is know-how)
the whole point of a damn walkie talkie is to commmunicate with others in a remote area on the go. No internet, no laptop!
No it isn't. Maybe that's what you use it for but that's not the whole point of it. There are many different uses.
The range of one walkie talkie could extend out of the area of internet coverage anyway. If you only have internet at home for example and live in the countryside and there is no mobile phone signal. Only one walkie talkie has to be connected to the computer. The other can be used anywhere else within range.
radiosification ah.. it's like i carry a walkie talkie in a freight ship connected to the captan's notebook and my father can talk with me through a Zello app in his smartphone?
Yes you could do that assuming the notebook had a good enough internet connection. But in that case you could just use zello on the notebook directly instead.
sounds quite a handy thing
nazir niyo Truth but even though Zello has to have the internet to function but it still has a great advantage over the regular walkie talkies because it records important conversations and you can communicate with anyone almost around the world if you has internet or Wi-Fi and you can create your own radio channel with in your group of people like as your coworkers, family, or friends, or even strangers like in hurricane disasters events the point that I'm trying to make is Zello is a great way and idea of communication.
anyway to use VOX on the phone. phones.
what emails?
How ti do it?
Fun idea but not very useful since it requires internet. Echolink pretty much does this very same thing without needing so much extra equipment. Personally I have a crossband repeated that does a similar thing where I can make different radio frequencies work with one a other.
How is it not useful just because it uses the internet? There is nothing wrong with using the internet. This video is not meant for prepping.
This is actually an amazing idea, if using from multiple buildings..
how do you know what frequency to use?
+Wes Dison because every radio has a frequency to talk in. so it wont clashes into other peoples chat line
hey this is very interesting. but what happen if you are outside of any internet range and just taking the radio to somewhere off the grid. can it still be received by the phone?
Obviously not. It relies on the internet. If you don't have internet of course it won't work
what i meant was, the internet is at home is for the handphone (zello), while i took the radio with me. the radio doesn't need the internet to work.
Sorry I don't mean to be rude but I don't think there is any polite way to say this. Has a two way radio like this EVER needed the internet to work? Did you try using your brain before asking a question? Will what you connect another radio to affect in any way whether the radio on the other end needs the internet? Obviously, if the radio never even had the ability to connect to the internet then how would it not being in range of internet make ant difference at all? As long as both the laptop and the phone have internet it will obviously work if the radio is in range
then it's a useless guide. and thank you for your time.
@@radiosification don't be rude, it's not about inteligence, it's about knowledge, if someone don't know how radio works, then they simply can't understand as easily as you do,
i found your guide confusing even tho i'm familiar with radio amateur bands and used an RTL-SDR before,
there was no basic introduction to what is zello and what is used for
Por las imágenes pude entender un poco de este video, alguien puede ayudarme a ver uno en español?
jajajajaja estamos iguales
Whats the ap?
Very clever
Why do they always put the worst speakers known to man in walkie talkies?
thanks!
how to do zello crosslink to vhf?
Juhani Rantakallio That's exactly what he's doing....146.05625.
Actually it is 446.05625 but the frequency is not so important. The setup would be exactly the same but you just use VHF radios instead of the UHF ones I am using here
hey could you connect a radio straight to your computer by taking it apart and connect it to zello that way
+jean-michel burger I don't think so, or at least I don't know how to do it. It has to go through a soundcard at some point to convert the audio to digital so the computer can process it.
So how would u do it with a sound card?
is there a way of using a male to male Jack? what sound card would I need?
Why don't you just connect it the normal way? Taking it apart just to connect the wires directly is a load of effort and gives no real advantage.
+radiosification Ok cool so how do I do that. sorry I'm a noob at radios
is this app use data or is free
ector manganyi it uses the internet.
Как сделать этот Кросслинк?
Видео показывает, как это сделать
whats the distance?
right next to each other, as you can see in the video
radiosification the distace, meaning the range, how far can you go before the signal stops working from home base.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-way_radio#Range
The walkie talkie DOES go over radio, obviously. It has to reach the connection to Zello over radio, so the distance is that.
so all you did is setup a cheap repeater system plumbed through zello
No, it's not a repeater. It only crosslinks to zello that's all.
@@radiosification your plumbing transmission from scanner into zello and zello broadcasts it not sure how its differnet than what a repeater would do just different tech
@@Vegasman77704 A repeater listens on one frequency and then transmits the same thing back out on another frequency to give greater coverage to radios using the repeater. A crosslink like this does not repeat it back out on another frequency, it only goes into zello when this system hears something.
just download Mumbe or teamspeak on your phone and connecto a server and all can chat :)
super
zello
Join 446 Muppets server on Free Radio Network we have been crosslink zello and FRN for over a year now
Explain a little bit more please, I am new to this
Your videos are just too slow for me. And you don't tell me what program you are using on the computer. All you are doing is talking back and forth to yourself. What good is that?
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FRN is better for this. Using zello like that is stupid.
So, can you get an FRN app on android?
Yeah but thats stupid and a waste of a device money and energy. I just use raspberrypi
So if you want to talk to someone else with a walkie talkie, but you're out of the coverage area, you would carry a raspberry pi to talk to them, and have to plug in a headset, screen, keyboard etc.? I think that seems a lot more stupid than simply using a phone. Maybe you should use your brain properly before posting nasty comments.
You're too fucking dumb to even understand your own setup. Tosser.
@@KandiKlover Shut the hell up, Sheldon, you need some chill.
I bet you were that stupid 7 years ago
what a lie a phone can't receive 446mhz
What an idiot. A phone can receive audio over the internet, which is exactly what is happening here.
radiosification which makes it pretty useless since it needs a pc
How does that make it useless?
radiosification because you need first a walkie-talkie which defeats the purpose already and secondly a laptop to carry arround just to have the walkie talkie via your phone
No, you are missing the point completely. This is a gateway to the internet. You set up the laptop with one walkie talkie. Then you can talk to anyone on zello through another walkie talkie. Let's say you have a large property and no mobile internet or wifi. Only internet at your computer. Then you can connect this and use it to talk on a walkie talkie to people online, and you can use it over the whole range of your walkie talkies which would be much greater than the range of wifi.
Try it with the Signalink USB interface u will get better audio...
The whole idea was that its very cheap. If I used a signalink it would be very expensive.