Will Ramos taught me metal vocals
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Will Ramos teaches me metal vocal techniques... I suffer
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Tuning: Vocals
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#willramos #Vocals #Metal
*Smash like for caveman noises*
No.
ooga booga
Screaming vocals are like pulling your dick out.. if you do it in the right setting, with the right person, and everyone involved is expecting it, it can be a lot of fun... But if any of those things are true everyone's just going to awkwardly judge you amongst themselves and if you're too overly conspicuous about it somebody will probably call the cops. But every time you pull it off successfully you feel like a god inside.
I'm so proud of my self because, I started teaching myself just the bfmv screams at 11 then when I was 13 I got better so I'd start teaching myself lows jamming to anything heavy and I'm 14 now and, I can do these lows that Will Ramos can do, before watching this and, I didn't know I was even close to his level of talent. I'm very happy to know I can do that:)
@@alternative5122 I wish I could say the same. I've always wanted to scream, and I can make a lot of noises and alter my voice in a lot of different ways. I recently taught myself how to growl and guttural but I still can't seem to figure out fry or high screaming. False chord screaming is all I can do 😮💨
Wills scream: portal to another dimension opens.
Nick: caveman noises.
He should do war metal
gotta start somewhere
😂
But mah caveman braihn luve id!
oo oo ah ah
1:02 "no the first step is being summoned from demon land"
Will: "100%"
awesome timing
Oh that killed me!!😂😈
15 seconds later: *already too hard* 😂
You noticed that too huh same 😆 🤣
"you gotta tongue everything, everyone" - Nik Nocturnal 2023
I foresee yet another vocalist getting cancelled | Hi Nik! 😂
You know you're real good when a vocal coach is shocked
You’re either real good or real bad
First Tim Henson teaches you guitar, now Will Ramos with vocals, now Davie504 should teach you Bass 😂
How does one teach that which doesn’t exist
Slap like now
And aaron the drums 😂
No no Charles Berthoud
Davie plays bass???!?!?!
Doesn't get much better than Will. Best teacher you could ask for!
Not really, he is a great vocalist, but he doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time when it comes to actual anatomy and how the sounds are made
@@bruh-qe9uxI'm afraid I have to agree. He sounds killer but people are gonna have a hard time learning with this video
@@bruh-qe9ux I wouldn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to anatomy so this is perfect for me
@@lilmonkmonk808 that's not the point, he doesn't know the technical stuff and vocal health. He just knows how to scream. A good teacher must know anatomy and vocal health and how stuff works to be able to give proper advice
@@bruh-qe9ux he definitely is one of those people where he knows how to scream and how to protect his voice but just isn’t a teacher
Glad chris liepe is getting some exposure such a great teacher
He is a great teacher indeed and has some great practical advice. His mixed voice tips helped me go from a struggling E4 to an easy G5 almost on an instant.
@@lippi2171he's a good clean singing teacher, but when it comes to harsh vocals he teaches harmfull techniques
@@bruh-qe9ux yes I don't watch his videos for death metal and core stuff. I know he has those sort of videos too. His Cornell "sing-scream" stuff helped me a lot though.
Will Ramos just seems like the chillest dude EVER!
Fr! Love how he is always smiling and being funny. I can't believe the demonic sounds that come out of this fkin adorable guy!
Everyone talks about Will but Chris Liepe is also a brilliant teacher!
He really is!
I agree, his channel is so informative, plus he's an excellent vocalist.
I started learning to scream with Riffshop's free Scream Academy course, but it wasn't until Chris Liepe's course with Spencer Sotello that my screams started to take shape, and now the video with Will Ramos is already making my growls way better. I'm not good by any means, but I'm improving and way better than I was two years ago thanks to Chris.
Justin Bonitz is an amazing teacher!
Chris didn't teach at all
I was imagining someone just doing death growl vowels and now I want to see Will do a death vocal cover of Polyphia's ABC 😂
As fellow vocalist, I can confirm that we need to summon the Cthulhu.
YOU SUMMONED ME MY CHILD?
As a fellow vocalist I can confirm too
I can confirm too
I can confirm three
@Jacob Mayer you have summoned me mortal?
Someone: *startles will*
Will: *demon from hell noises*
Chris looks so dejected in the freeze frame at the end and Will is it just like "yeah hoped that help guys" 😂
LOL I REPLAYED 5:37 WAY TOO MANY TIMES HAHAHA! Thank you for sharing your vocal journey with us! (: It's nice to see someone who is not embarrassed to do this because I get embarrassed even just doing it all by myself in my car LOL
I remember Nik saying something along the lines of: a Termina liveshow wouldn't be possible cause then he'd have to learn to do backup screaming vocals. And yet here we are
Chris is an amazing teacher. I cant believe i watched him grow like he has. I have a feeling that Will has trained with Melissa Cross. His technique is text book Cross.
Sure he did!
Yeah, Nik mentioned a straw and I was like Melissa Cross lol
Love will so much, seeing him live in a week
Just seen him last night, Goodluck
@@Death12650 Same here. That show was nuts!
@@Death12650 good luck instead of enjoy says alot. Gonna see them first chance I get
@@NoSleepIsland when people say Will is not human, they actually mean it. I was hoping that going to the concert would be something new and unique, and it was. Dudes vocals are almost too good, like too good to be real or human.
Seeing him Saturday! Cannot fucking wait
I fucking love Will Ramos. Might go to Ireland to see Lorna Shore. Gonna be giving Will a fat hug of course
And the highest of fives. For all of us pls
yessur
I’m seeing them live next week w/ Gojira and Mastodon!
When he unleashes his true lows, I don't know if that's false chord he's using. I guess it's in his fry register, but for some reason his fry lows sound really powerful, and it seems like false chord. Will is amazig.
That was arytenoid cartilage rattle along with tunnel throat
I know that since I have studied a bit of larynoscopy
He actually twists his false chords. Just check out the camera down the throat video that Will did with Elisabeth from Charismatic voice
Saw Lorna last week on my birthday of all days it was epic plus Shadow of Intent was there and dude Ben Duerr is so killer live
Saw them Friday. It was an amazing show
Quick Tip: when doing low vocals try to push your jaw outwards, usually when I do this it gives it a bit more distortion
4:34 😂 So true. Lmao. Thanks for posting this though. Very cool to see someone learning on camera and exposing a vulnerability. It's hilarious how easy Will makes it look and sound. He's like, "Then you just do this: **OPENS UP A PORTAL TO HELL AND TONGUES SATIN**".
That reminds me of the art tutorial memes of "first step: draw a circle, second step: finish the portrait"
The best thing about Will Ramos is that he looks like the sweetest guy and then he makes horror noises from Hell.
A really good tip I can offer for false chord is to constrict the air, literally picture in your throat making a smaller hole for the air to come out, this will not only make it sound better but will also allow you to sustain the sound for longer without feeling out of breat because you are using less air (I know he already mentioned compressing the air in the video but I find a mental image helps with actually being able to do it) Not trying to promote but to back up what I am saying I am the Vocalist of Celestival if you want to check if I can actually do what I am preaching lol
I love that Chris Liepe is getting the recognition he deserves. Easily _the_ best YT vocal coach
One thing that helped me understand about constriction is that it's the same sensation as the end of a cough or holding a cough halfway through and pushing the air out. That part is always confusing.
Yep, that will prevent too much air, and really for me start with a whisper for your voice. Then learn to shout through a whisper by pushing air and voice through it. The primary sound should be the distortion and your voice behind it actually becomes secondary compared to talking.
For me the yawning exercise has worked the best, for false cord that is. But no matter the way you find your own distortion, relaxed body and stable airflow is so important
@@NoSleepIsland I love that everybody's approach is different. I can only imagine the unique tones people make through their methods. But yeah I highly agree. A tense body and unstable airflow is a recipe for disaster. Gotta be chill like Will and the guys
I think i need water and doctor to practice this
Love Chris Liepe. He is a brilliant vocal teacher.
One Advice for anybody who wants to try this: Dont try to sound like them because everybody sounds differnt so follow his instruction and you will be fine. And dont be sad if it doesnt work at the first try or you sound not great. Will Ramos has years of experience and training. No matter how small your progress is dont give up and you will be abel to be this good at one day
@@marct8898 Because you will you the Same base Technic. But every voice sound different
I literally just saw him last night bro they were so good and shoutout to boundaries shadow of intent brand of sacrifice and bodysnatcher too man all those bands were so good live bro I cried
AND I WENT CROWD SURFING FOR TH LE FIRST TIME IT WAS BADASS BRO
Where did you see all these bands at?
Dude, the open ear cup is not about cupping up the entire ear. It’s about creating a kind of tunnel from your mouth to your ear so you be able to hear the sound out of your mouth directly in your ear.
Cheers!
how to metal scream 101: close one ear
This is great. What's greater? Their warm-up series. That warm-up sequence Will does has leveled my entire foundation of screams up.
I love that Nik is a fellow Fry user! Never managed to utilize false chord in a practical scenario. Fries, on the other hand, is a different story altogether.
Will seems like a super positive and cool dude.
For anyone who's seen that docu No Room For Rockstars, I remember Mitch Lucker doing that ear cupping thing while warming his vocals up in his tour bus
I was fucking blown away at Lorna shores Albany NY live show 🔥🔥 so happy Lorna shore is making headlines after all the years they've been putting in work !! They deserve it 🔥
Will is the ultimate good guy
I’ve watched this video at work and have been waiting to try all this. I’m living vicariously through nik making questionable passes at impossible vocals lol
Ive been doing a hybrid between dickie allens vocals and will ramoss' vocals for around 4 or 5 years now, and I can confirm when people hear you hit a tunnel throat, or a goblin vocal, it freaks them out. Pretty much anything that sounds like two voices at once is so uncommon to hear they cant believe that you cant do it.
I like to imagine Will singing in the car to the Backstreet Boys or something unexpected 😂
Try semi cupping your ear instead of fully cupping. The idea is for the sound to bounce off your forearm or hand to your ear.
The "no context" clip had me rolling 😂😂😂
this is great when you have already started with your basic hatebreed style vocals but for a false chord introduction its not the best
helped me out a ton though and id recommend phil bozemans guttural demonstration next
Chris Liepe has A LOT of awesome content for singers on his channel.
The thought of Will Ramos driving like my papaw looking like he has serious road rage for no reason made me smile. So did this video.
I’ve been doing fries for years and I’m damn good at them. Its hard af for me to do false cords cuz I instinctively wanna do a fry scream
i've been doing false chord for like 12 years, just recently this year decided to get into fry and it's a lot harder for me. Pretty interesting...
I have no idea which one I can do I just know I can do one of them
How the fuck do you do fry. I can do the grudge noise pretty easily but as soon as I try to mess with it like give it power it just breaks and my normal voice kicks in, the fry goes away completely, and I just sound like I'm yelling.
in all the years i've been messing with doing vocals i have to say i sound more like Danny Worsnop's screams and growls than anything else which is good enough since i used AA to learn screaming XD
This shit is so funny man
Will saying "tongue" and "no tongue" but giving absolutely no explanation of what he is doing with his tongue. Loved hearing someone else trying these techniques for the first time. Made me feel better lol
😂😂😂😂 I died when you added the step brothers singing 🎵 in the car scene 🎬 lol 😂
You use to much air...
1. Try to get the tone more of from belly... When you got the tone out, fix your bellymuscels like you would put on a corset (that´s how I learned it) and try to lock it.
2. Sing a "U" or and "O" with it. He´s doing the deathgrowls (like they normally are) without parts of the singing voice. For you it´s easier to start with a "U" or "O".
3. Get it into "rolling"... like Johann Heck. When you got a "rolling" felling IN or UNDER your larynx, then you´re doing it right.
And now the biggest tip.... You can train the muscels that you need for this very effectifly with the help of an cork 😄
Do it between the teeth and close your lips around it. now press the air threw it. Your belly will be activate and you train your body with it.
To get real low growls you sing with the cork low notes. When that works, start a little bit higher and get then lower...
It´s easier for the body to get lower from higher notes and not directly.
So that´s it... Hope you read the comment, that you can work with it 😅
greetings from germany
I think, and I want to emphasise that I only THINK, that he's going form false chord into fry somehow. Because his scream at 5:12 definetely looks/sounds like fry to me. To me that also makes sense because they're talking about constricting the air and false chord doesn't really have constriction in my understanding.
In the Throat Camera Video you can see he uses both fry and false cord at the same time
Nik the noise you opened the video with made me die laughing cuz it legit sounds like a burp
Having some experience I can say that doing inhale sounds can be very helpful to warm up your false chords. But the problem is to shift from inhale to exhale as they are felt differently
the long awaited chris liepe x nik crossover. 2023 is a cool year so far
Some of the noises you made at the start reminded me of the noise tim Allen makes in the home improvements intro at the end 😂
When Chris' face is like "WTF", I totally lost it
Nik definitely has the trying to do false cord before learning how to do false cord down on this video.
Uber + will Ramos + hidden camaras 😂😂😂 I would watch that
He doesn't cup his whole ear lol only partly so you can hear your own voice bouncing back to your ear
Wow caught the vid as it dropped! Nice
Don't worry babe I subscribed
Glad you made a video of what I've been doing nonstop for the past two days
5:26 Chris's face is all of us
Will is awesome and I follow and learn a lot from Chros Liepe 🔥 wonderful master
Bruh ppl passing Will on the freeway be like “OMG does he have OnStar, I think he’s been in an accident, he’s currently in denial”
0:03 bro really hit us with the rizzcore face, chad metal
I laugh now, but when I go to learn how to do this I'll be in the same boat
The ear cupping technique is fucking nuts! It helps with projection when you can't hear yourself or you're trying to pick up volume!
Great punk band! And Nik is a cool punk guitarist!
We need to see Ben Duerr from Shadow of Intent do this kind of shit.
Fucking love Ben from soi
yessss dude he's my favourite vocalist,, his voice is so powerful
lol the completely cupping your ear has me rolling. need a little gap, but you probably figured that out since.
Dudes be afraid to moan, but there’s me at @2:50 in my girls ear lmao
This was a cool, fun video, Nik! I'd love to see more of you just exploring and learning stuff, haha. Maybe trying some insane riffs or more vocal stuff
I laughed so damn hard during this
Chris Liepe reaction to Nobody from A7X is such a treat
Loved your subtitles... They were practically the subtitles to my thoughts, too 😂
He starts with false cords, but then connects epiglottal folds to them, so not everything they say is true, we all saw his throat perfectly on camera, and saw that this sound comes from twisting the epiglottic folds. I’m lucky I learned how to close them and I can reproduce the same sounds, but I don’t think that you can learn this by squeezing false cords
There are other scope videos done by Brandon Kennedy and a few other death metal vocalists that show false cord differently than Will. Depends on anatomy and technique. For Wills growls he closed his false folds more which hid his vocal folds from view so you could not see if they were more open or closed. The false cord growl is done the same way as Kargaraa where you vibrate the false cords and cartilage around them, but with more relaxed and open vocal folds than Kargarraa or normal speaking. If you whisper and then try to make that loud like you are shouting through it, that will be a relaxed / open vocal fold coordination. With the right airflow you will vibrate the false cords and create a growl.
Yes, that’s false chord. Once you get it down, it flows like butter and you can make some pretty gnarly sounds. You’re just going to look and sound like a mental patient either way, so have fun with it lmao I’m going on 16-17 years as a metal vocalist and some of the coolest things I learned to do came from the stupidest of ideas. Like there’s a thing I do similar to tunnel throat, except I slide my tongue over to one side and it has a more clear sound without so much of the overtone. Just a small shift can change things up in small ways. In a way, it’s like a fighting game. Once you know the base moves, you can mix and march em for different results. Keeps from sounding too samey. And for me, I actually add a tad bit more of my voice sometimes just as a little seasoning. I love these kind of vocals but I hate hearing people who stick to one thing. Like learning to do a smooth transition from high to low or low to high with that side tongue thing, but start normally and move your tongue as you change pitch and it has this really cool shift with the overtone as well. Honestly, as long as you’re serious about the health and safety part, the rest is all goofing off and not taking it seriously. Because once the first part is down, the rest is experimenting, unless you stick with basic lows, mids, and highs. In a way, it takes a lot of humility to do this haha I laugh at myself all the time because I know how stupid it really is at the end of the day. Cool af, but stupid none the less.
Nice to see chris in your channel nik
and yeah
this was veeery helpful
Will - Open cup hand to ear, Nik - Holds hand to side of face :D
bro this is crazy
Someone needs to edit all the vocal sounds together by themselves lmao.
You're a musical chameleon, and I mean that in the best way possible
Nick you are awesome🌌
i have this video bookmarked using to actually practice in private and get somewhere with it
I’m glad he does the ear cupping thing lol I have always done that and thought it was a bad habit or some shit but I swear I feel like my tone is so much better when I do it lol
"I do not cup the ear" Nik - Proceeds to cup the ear but still be amazed by self
0:00
Nice burp😂
The tongue vs no tongue sounded like a demonic toliet flushing.
*When Will Ramos just comes out like a beast, my face turned on stank face mode*
I like what i believe Austin Dickey called the "toilet bowl scream". I think with the tongue. Landon Tewers does it often
This video should be very entertaining
I knew most of the stuff Will said before watching the video, unfortunately I never took my vocals anywhere and probably never will because I'm getting too old at this point
“This is 2023” is my most used phrase currently, so had a little sex wee when you said that. X
Ok ok 2 years later, I think I need to subscribe already, damn bro, cool down.
I’ve never laughed so hard at a video 😂🤣 I really had to keep quiet because my clients are currently sleeping lmao
"First step : bad scream, sigh into it."
Alright, how do you even do that :')
one thing I will add to what will said when doing the huh sound in that lower false cord. Imagine trying to fog a window with warm breath and that should help you get the pitch down to where you want it to be hope this helps