I agree with Adam, I don’t know where people get their valuations from. £46.5 million, plus maybe £5/10 million add ons and a sell on clause is really a not a bad deal, especially when it will help the club so much going forward. Have to get a player in if they do though.
They got a new manager mid season and don’t want to spend anything on him in January 🤦♂️. They have been trying to sell two player for the whole window and they look like they are staying. Amorim is begging for Casemiro and rashford to be sold but the incompetent owners can’t do anything. You see Chelsea move the likes of havertz pulisic rlc koulibaly Mendy kepa out very easily but we’re supposed to believe that Rashford and Casemiro can’t be sold
Everyone can scream for him to stay but facts are someone has to go to comply with psr or it’s a point deduction start of next season …. Baught for €460k sold for €55 million good bit of buisness he ain’t no Ronaldo
@@paulmarshall919exactly. We are broke because rashford Casemiro mount eriksen Lindelof and Antony are stealing 200-350k per week each one of them. It’s not because of Garnacho’s 50k wages. Sell those players to comply with psr. Very club can sell players they don’t want. Our board is just incompetent
Adam your not listening to people who say keep him. £45 million doesn't get a replacement. Garnacho's figures aren't bad. Garnacho wages are low so hiring a replacement would hurt PSR. This whole deal is wrong for united. Rashford and Antony are used less than Garnacho and earn more so they should go. Yes every player has his price but for Garnacho, Amad, and Mainoo we should do our best Austin Powers impression and quote the price as 100 Billion Dollars. If Napoli want to do business offer Rashford or Antony. With regards to Amorin he is on probation with me, just like everyone else he has to prove himself in his first 6 months and at the moment I would be giving him performance warnings given the low win rate. So build a squad for a manager we may need to release is stupid. As I think other managers would use Garnacho.
There’s better championship players than Garnacho. He is very replaceable. Limited technically, limited IQ, limited athleticism, limited strength, limited finishing. He’s no better than Januzaj and look how his career turned out after leaving Man Utd. He’ll be at AEK Athens in a few seasons.
@@thebizness5596 and which of those championship players is coming to united for less than £50k a week? The transfer fee is meaningless for PSR if the wage bill goes up. Selling the sofa because you can't afford the mortgage might solve one month's payment problem but you have nowhere to sit and big bill next month. INEOS need to shift the big wage earners if PSR is the problem. Meanwhile Garnacho is a second best in goals scored this season and third best in assists. Doesn't sound bad to me, but let's sell him and play? Rashford, Antony?
@@thebizness5596there are better players but you will have to spend more than you make or else you’ll get another average player at the already mediocre squad. And whoever we get will rinse us with 150k pw minimum in wages. Leny yoro who doesn’t add anything to our team is on 115 k and costed 60 million and is even more limited than garancho. No pace no passing no touch or awareness.
@ mate Tyler Dibling at 18yrs old is wayyy better than Garnacho and if he doesn't move by next season he'll be a championship player. He's currently being paid £5k a week and we're apparently in for him so he'll be on £25k a week if he joins. Sulemana is also better and if we want to talk about actual championship players we have Chris Rigg (Man Utd heavily linked to him), Alfie Doughty, Borja Sainz, Finn Azaz, Wilfried Gnonto and Jobe Bellingham are miles better.
@@luckythrone893 you're smoking, one ''bad'' game and you're saying Yoro adds nothing, he's class player and he is young so we can expect ups and downs but for the most part he is one of the best talents in world football. Need to chill bro, Tyler Dibling is on 5k a week, he'll accept £25k a week and he is miles better than Garnacho. Plenty options out there that are 5 times the player Garnacho is who is.
Some fans are not grasping just how badly the club is in financial Dire Straits. Just before Christmas,the club announced an annual loss of -£330 million. Beggars can’t be choosers. A decade of overly-priced signings, financial mismanagement on outrageous contracts means the club no longer has the luxury of dictating any terms. Needs must! Some people really need to get their head out of the sand if they think that other clubs only want to buy the worst players and not the good ones. Time to get real ! But I do agree with Adam that the money MUST go back into buying a replacement player and not into Sir Jim’s pocket.
i cant understand this belief that if he does well he is gonna leave Napoli, what if he just stays there, napoli is the top italian club for now. if he joins Napoli i dont see him leavin
I understand that the manager is the main man to follow at the club & iit is very important to get him the players he wants/best suits him but I hope the staff above Amorin can talk some sense into him. the mob mentality against Garnacho is baffling just cause he is the only one good enough to sell for some sort of profit. personally i'd rather sell zirkzee/hojlund/Maguire/cass/shaw/dalot/mount/Erikson along with the other 3 mentioned in this show (rashy/antony/malacia ) aka the DEAD WOOD. also the people saying a young player cannot improve/adapt are idiotic, he has already shown he can do more then just run down the wing. we held the 3 golden bois (Koby,Garna,Amad) up high last year. we should stick with them as our future ❤🔥Glory Glory ManUnited
I don’t even think it’s Amorim wanting to sell him. The glazers and ineos told him that if he wants any incomings they have to sell garnacho and then they forced stories saying that he is for sale, that he wants to leave and that he agreed on moves. It’s very obviously not true. If Amorim doesn’t want him he wouldn’t be playing him like he is doing with Rashford and Casemiro. Also garancho looked miserable entering old trafford before the last game, he is being forced out and the club don’t want criticism so they’re painting him as the one who wants to leave. That’s not how we treat academy kids. Especially ones who did so much for us already.
3:05 it sounds like maybe Ruben came in and basically struck them off. If both at the same time like that. I can well imagine they both train the same to be honest. It sounds like they were just part of Ruben’s list
I’d keep both but for me garancho seems like the better player. I would have not bought yoro who didn’t even want to be here in the first place and only came because we offered him 115k pw when he wouldn’t have gotten 50k at Madrid. He also costed the club 60 million which is just as bad as the Mount deal. He was willing to leave for free for another club but we had to pay 60 on his last year remaining
Rashford won’t go. He’s burned the only bridge he had. What a stupid decision not to accept the Milan bid! If he wanted Barcelona he should have accepted Milan and see what happened!
They would never say that because Maino is English. Garancho gets way too much hate. He is our boy and we should support him and protect him. Weird toxic fans just like to downplay his ability every chance they get. He looks scared while playing for us because a large proportion of the fanbase despises him for some reason. Keep the kid and give him the chance which he earned for himself
@luckythrone893 Why are fan so eager to sell Garnacho in Jan. He provides the team with numbers, not the greatest numbers but at least he contributes. We keep saying this team needs more goals, but some fans don't care about that. Mainoo doesn't offer anything to this team. He is an asset we could make 100% profit on. We need a better player in that position anyway. Collyer should start, he's also older. Fans keep saying he's to young This to young nonsense is ridiculous. Look at all the young players in Europe doing well. Collyer has more strength and pace and stamina. This Mainoo agenda is crazy. Keep backing a 3 legged horse.
65 million Euros plus 20 percent sell on. But we have to use the money towards bringing in 2 players. I doubt Amorim would agree to sell Garnacho unless he could bring in 2 players now.
If MU fans wants 80 millions for Garnacho, we as Sporting fans want at least 150 millions for Gyokeres being sold to MU, more then fair to the player who was the best scorer in the world last season... 62 goals. 🍻
46M and a sell on clause I think it has to be a yes , Q - would u pay that amount on a player at Garn level of development? I would suggest NO. Fans would say waste of money.
We paid more on leny yoro who looked good playing for one season in France with no pressure or expectations. Yoro is also o. More than double Garnacho’s wages. And from the Southampton spurs and forest games you can see that he is nowhere near it still. So to answer your question we pay more for a player at this stage of his career
Garnacho will only be sold to raise the money to bring in 2 other players. He’s the only Man U player other clubs are offering to buy. It makes no sense to sell him other than to raise the money to buy 2 other players Amorim wants now.
Sir Jim the knobhead wudnt be in this position if he showed sum balls when he bought into us and cleared the debt. Those interest payments been killing our psr for years and now we are selling young first teamers. The fan base are getting brainwashed in my humble opinion. Stopping bonuses of staff, charging the fans more and now selling first team academy graduates and I’m seeing fans getting excited? Maybe I’m missing something.
I'd take 60 for garna instantly. We don't need wingers in this new system and when was the last time we made this kind of money from a player? We need a 60ml striker so it makes sense
If you watched Amorim’s sporting side he did play with wingers in the 10 and the wing back positions . Also we need to get rid of Rashford Casemiro Lindelof eriksen mount Shaw Antony more than we need money in. Selling those useless players would free up 60 million in wages every year. Also garancho is a better talent than yoro and we spent 60 million on him, an unproven decent cb
Hard disagree on selling him on that price. If it was summer, sure. But it’s January. They have weakened themselves by selling their best player it’s not our problem. Selling garnacho will weaken us because we can’t get replacement at a decent price in Jan. So they have to add extra money on top of what they think his value is. So either keep or sell only at an exorbitant price. Doesn’t make sense to sell in 55m euros.
Yes. Take that. And, put a cap of 150K salary for every new player. Rather than being exploited for the World Class Club factor, let us play at that level and use that in our favour to entice new players.
Exactly. What did they do to gain our trust. The glazers were able to stay for longer because they covered their faces with ineos. We are still slow in the transfer window, and still don’t do anything in January. Which is what the glazers always did.
Surely Antony would be better used as a LWB so that the left sided #10 goes inside & Antony overlaps. Using him as RWB and having him cut inside cramps the space the right sided #10 wants to occupy
We shouldn’t use him at all. Amorim obviously doesn’t rate him. And him being on 200k is a disgrace. We should force him out and cut our losses with him. End of
at this moment united should just stop entertaining any bid from napoli. 46 mil is an insult. 70 million pound or stay home. guy is 20 and already has 50 g/a in England. if it was the other way around, we would have been quoted 80 mil minimum
Glazers debt ‘only’ costs around £32m/year to service. A significant amount but it won’t be a game changer even if it was cleared. Our financial position is screwed because of the horrific overspending on transfers and wages by Arnold/Murtough and co.
A bit of common sense at last. The owners have provided a rediculous amount of money to buy players and it isn’t their fault the money has been wasted on planks. It’s not their decision to give Trashford a new contract at stupid wages either. With the money we have spent we should be winning the Premier League for sure.
Exactly. Casemiro for 70 million at 30 years old and giving him 350k per week which he didn’t earn close to that at Madrid in his prime. Giving Rashford 300k pw after a purple patch that ended in march of the same seaosn. Paying 80 million for Sancho and the. Giving him 300k pw when no one else would and he didn’t earn 50k at Dortmund. Mount for 60 million then giving him 250k. Antony for 85mil then giving him 200k. Old eriksen on 200k. Lindelof who has never been good getting 150k pw. Rasmus for 70 million. Onana for 60 million. Leny yoro for 60mil and then giving him 115k at 19 when he isn’t going to start for us and he hasn’t done anything yet. Pogba for 100 million maguire for 70 mil and getting 190k per week for five years martial had massive wages varane took 350k pw which he didn’t make in his prime and he barely played. Manchester United is paying squid money for players when they should take less to be able to play for us. Joke of a club
@@Malc-k8pthe ownership is definitely at fault because they didn’t have a director of football or a football oriented ceo. Also you don’t sign off any contract a manager wants no matter how bizarre it is. The owners didn’t hire anyone who can negotiate with clubs. And the 32 mill per year they pay to service the debt they gave the club to purchase it which no one else did is not something you defend. No other ownership did that ever. 32 mill is an additional player which you can sign every year.
Better club? Napoli is not the club you think it is. 2 titles in their entire history. Never been competitive in Europe and their best players always look for a move out as soon as they can. Kvara and osimhen can tell you something
Garnacho has been more than good for his age. Weird fan base to downplay his ability and potential. I think he should be unsellable for no price at all. Otherwise we are just giving away a player that will be a 100 mill euro player in the next 5 years. If someone offered 80 mill pounds now id understand the club to at least listen to the offer. But im sorry. The fan base should be up in arms about this. I guess the fan base is just disillusioned with the whole situation of the club and you end up becoming immune to crazy decisions like selling Garnacho or maino. Fan base is just a bunch of zombies at this point. moaning and groaning as they go along supporting this club. Dead.
Adam, i think you need to look at the structure changes ineos made that you applauded. Amorin does not pick the style of play nor the players that stay and go that is the sporting directors job. Amorin is a coach he picks the team and formation, but that should match the style that the DoF chooses. So its not upto Amorin if a player stays or goes or who comes in so Garnacho going is not a sign of the club backing the manager its a sign united no longer intended to play with wingers for the foreseeable future, is that the style united fans want? No future best, giggsy, beckham? Thats not a united i want to see, sure rashford can go he has shown he doesn't want to work for the shirt, but beyond that losing wingers without replacements is bad for the style and losing a young highly effective starlet is not the united style of the past. They way you talk i think you would have sold giggsy and becks the first time a bid came in. United is more than a balance sheet, it has tradition and style, no board member or owner should be allowed to kill that for a quick buck.
Think we understand what you’re saying mate, we just don’t agree with you ! Due to his age he’s worth at least 65-75m ! The boy Napoli just sold to PSG went for 70m and he’s a bit older, Garna has a much higher ceiling! 65-75m with a 20% sell on clause.
You choose to believe Sir Jim's propaganda just because he is English, you try tk make us think Garnacho is pushing for a move yet it's Sir Jim pushing him out for money
Not everyone deserves time. Amorim doesn’t like or rate malacia. Boot him out. If he wants him great. Also you’re talking as if Zirkzee has been a revelation. Looking good without scoring or assisting against Southampton or dribbling twice against Arsenal’s after having come on against tired legs is still very below par.
I don’t like Garnacho as a player and I think he’s hit his ceiling already and won’t fit to the Amorim system. However, this club needs to learn to sell players properly. £60m for a 20 year old with a perceived higher ceiling and demand from La Liga clubs is not enough money. £70m should be a minimum figure. £46m is a joke of an offer. The club should play hard ball and turn the current offer down. His value will only increase in the summer market if we don’t get a sale now. Selling other deadwood is a bigger priority for this window. Esp, Rashford and Cassa.
Only if he wants to go at this point but otherwise no it's not, like I said before coming the season he had last year ,if untd wanted to buy him ,it would put us back 80mil so do the numbers
How do you pay the wages under PSR? Garnacho is on 50k a week do you think either of those player will want less than that let alone both of them? It doesn't matter if you can afford to buy you have to also be able to afford to pay. I would love those players but we need to move on someone who is paid more like Antony or Rashford. Given the low price of these players you suggest, then either Antony or Rashford going would make that deal a positive PSR contribution.
Would Kerkez leave Bournemouth they just stuffed Newcastle 4-1 at Newcastle never mind they beat us has did Newcastle. It not looking great and I would not sell garnacho unless we at least get a left back and a forward in jan which is highly unlikely we can only hope because in the summer we were getting all sorts of players midfielders neves olmo and the rest what did we get ugarte who looks good but what if he gets injured so we should have another for at least cover.
Transfermarkt values garnacho at €55 million, so that's his actual valuation. Utd would be stupid not to sell him. And if palmer went for 46 million garnacho's value true is about 20 million
Before moving to chelsea what had Palmer done for man City? He hardly played for them or for ENG. Garnacho is already arg international and has played more than 100 games and has around 50 g/a...so getting palmer money is stupid for us. Also who are we buying to replace him.
Why are we even considering Selling Garnacho for 50 to 60 million. When we bought Anthony for 85 million
Utd were the mugs doesn't mean other clubs have to join in
There's a big difference between £60 million pounds and 55 million euros
€60m is about £50m - that’s what Adam said and I think that’s the number when we push the button
Ruben Amorim has said he doesn't want to sell him.
It's an insult to think Garnacho costs less than £70
£70 is super cheap pal
What's he ever done to warrant that price
Cole Palmer went for around £50m
This man here is getting his face glazed 100%
You can't sell Garnacho while Rashford is still here...
They can and they will
Why not?
Nobody wants trashford
But they can, and they will as glazer/Ineos are scum bags
What you expect them too say no coz we got rashford? That's even more reason too sell him. Helmet
Must sell Trashford first before Garna.
Garnacho money is going to the glazers for pocket money 😂😂😂😂
I agree with Adam, I don’t know where people get their valuations from. £46.5 million, plus maybe £5/10 million add ons and a sell on clause is really a not a bad deal, especially when it will help the club so much going forward. Have to get a player in if they do though.
Napoli would charge utd 70m ..
@@barbarohelm9697 Another Ineos shill who loves them and the glazers more than "their" club
Rashford lied to the coaches face. it was at that point he was out. He's a loser.
Gotta give it to the Glazers. They know just how to BS and gaslight fans while taking the soul of the club, as well as billions!
Yes yes take the money. Get Cherki and Dorgeles for a combined £30m
6:57 They sold Kvara for 70M, there is no way Napoli will bid for Garnacho anywhere close to what Kvara was sold for. Its crazy to even think about it
Minimum 75 million + addons and a sell on fee or tell them the do one.
It’s time for Utd fans to start protesting for Glazers and INEOS to go jeez man it’s terrible
We will, but these content you tubers won't!!
They got a new manager mid season and don’t want to spend anything on him in January 🤦♂️. They have been trying to sell two player for the whole window and they look like they are staying. Amorim is begging for Casemiro and rashford to be sold but the incompetent owners can’t do anything. You see Chelsea move the likes of havertz pulisic rlc koulibaly Mendy kepa out very easily but we’re supposed to believe that Rashford and Casemiro can’t be sold
Glineos would not use a penny of the sale if they sold him , so keep him.
Everyone can scream for him to stay but facts are someone has to go to comply with psr or it’s a point deduction start of next season …. Baught for €460k sold for €55 million good bit of buisness he ain’t no Ronaldo
How do you know... He is only 20..
Let's lose the points I'd buy more players and take a 10 point deduction look what city got away with
@@paulmarshall919exactly. We are broke because rashford Casemiro mount eriksen Lindelof and Antony are stealing 200-350k per week each one of them. It’s not because of Garnacho’s 50k wages. Sell those players to comply with psr. Very club can sell players they don’t want. Our board is just incompetent
Adam your not listening to people who say keep him. £45 million doesn't get a replacement. Garnacho's figures aren't bad. Garnacho wages are low so hiring a replacement would hurt PSR. This whole deal is wrong for united. Rashford and Antony are used less than Garnacho and earn more so they should go. Yes every player has his price but for Garnacho, Amad, and Mainoo we should do our best Austin Powers impression and quote the price as 100 Billion Dollars. If Napoli want to do business offer Rashford or Antony. With regards to Amorin he is on probation with me, just like everyone else he has to prove himself in his first 6 months and at the moment I would be giving him performance warnings given the low win rate. So build a squad for a manager we may need to release is stupid. As I think other managers would use Garnacho.
There’s better championship players than Garnacho. He is very replaceable. Limited technically, limited IQ, limited athleticism, limited strength, limited finishing. He’s no better than Januzaj and look how his career turned out after leaving Man Utd. He’ll be at AEK Athens in a few seasons.
@@thebizness5596 and which of those championship players is coming to united for less than £50k a week? The transfer fee is meaningless for PSR if the wage bill goes up. Selling the sofa because you can't afford the mortgage might solve one month's payment problem but you have nowhere to sit and big bill next month. INEOS need to shift the big wage earners if PSR is the problem. Meanwhile Garnacho is a second best in goals scored this season and third best in assists. Doesn't sound bad to me, but let's sell him and play? Rashford, Antony?
@@thebizness5596there are better players but you will have to spend more than you make or else you’ll get another average player at the already mediocre squad. And whoever we get will rinse us with 150k pw minimum in wages. Leny yoro who doesn’t add anything to our team is on 115 k and costed 60 million and is even more limited than garancho. No pace no passing no touch or awareness.
@ mate Tyler Dibling at 18yrs old is wayyy better than Garnacho and if he doesn't move by next season he'll be a championship player. He's currently being paid £5k a week and we're apparently in for him so he'll be on £25k a week if he joins. Sulemana is also better and if we want to talk about actual championship players we have Chris Rigg (Man Utd heavily linked to him), Alfie Doughty, Borja Sainz, Finn Azaz, Wilfried Gnonto and Jobe Bellingham are miles better.
@@luckythrone893 you're smoking, one ''bad'' game and you're saying Yoro adds nothing, he's class player and he is young so we can expect ups and downs but for the most part he is one of the best talents in world football. Need to chill bro, Tyler Dibling is on 5k a week, he'll accept £25k a week and he is miles better than Garnacho. Plenty options out there that are 5 times the player Garnacho is who is.
It’s rashford and Casemiro we need to sell
@@grahamrichardson7851 agreed 👍
46,494,250.00 pounds, nahhhhh jog on Napoli, stand firm Berrada my man 💪🙌
Some fans are not grasping just how badly the club is in financial Dire Straits. Just before Christmas,the club announced an annual loss of -£330 million. Beggars can’t be choosers. A decade of overly-priced signings, financial mismanagement on outrageous contracts means the club no longer has the luxury of dictating any terms. Needs must! Some people really need to get their head out of the sand if they think that other clubs only want to buy the worst players and not the good ones. Time to get real ! But I do agree with Adam that the money MUST go back into buying a replacement player and not into Sir Jim’s pocket.
How much would they have to pay for a replacement more than 55 million euros
Selling ganacho is complete madness, im not listening to none of u guys untill feb 1st
i cant understand this belief that if he does well he is gonna leave Napoli, what if he just stays there, napoli is the top italian club for now. if he joins Napoli i dont see him leavin
Because he wants to follow CR7 by going to Madrid
I understand that the manager is the main man to follow at the club & iit is very important to get him the players he wants/best suits him but I hope the staff above Amorin can talk some sense into him. the mob mentality against Garnacho is baffling just cause he is the only one good enough to sell for some sort of profit. personally i'd rather sell zirkzee/hojlund/Maguire/cass/shaw/dalot/mount/Erikson along with the other 3 mentioned in this show (rashy/antony/malacia ) aka the DEAD WOOD. also the people saying a young player cannot improve/adapt are idiotic, he has already shown he can do more then just run down the wing. we held the 3 golden bois (Koby,Garna,Amad) up high last year. we should stick with them as our future ❤🔥Glory Glory ManUnited
I don’t even think it’s Amorim wanting to sell him. The glazers and ineos told him that if he wants any incomings they have to sell garnacho and then they forced stories saying that he is for sale, that he wants to leave and that he agreed on moves. It’s very obviously not true. If Amorim doesn’t want him he wouldn’t be playing him like he is doing with Rashford and Casemiro. Also garancho looked miserable entering old trafford before the last game, he is being forced out and the club don’t want criticism so they’re painting him as the one who wants to leave. That’s not how we treat academy kids. Especially ones who did so much for us already.
3:05 it sounds like maybe Ruben came in and basically struck them off. If both at the same time like that. I can well imagine they both train the same to be honest. It sounds like they were just part of Ruben’s list
Goals , he's sets up as much as anyone else and he's 20 no way should we sell ! Would you take that offer for koby
I’d keep both but for me garancho seems like the better player. I would have not bought yoro who didn’t even want to be here in the first place and only came because we offered him 115k pw when he wouldn’t have gotten 50k at Madrid. He also costed the club 60 million which is just as bad as the Mount deal. He was willing to leave for free for another club but we had to pay 60 on his last year remaining
@luckythrone893 mount was a shocking buy but yoro is 18 and a defender so his ceiling could go high if he is too become the new varane
Was Anthony worth 80£ million
Rashford won’t go. He’s burned the only bridge he had. What a stupid decision not to accept the Milan bid! If he wanted Barcelona he should have accepted Milan and see what happened!
Same PLANET WE CAME FROM PAYING 😂80 Million for ANTHONY
Keep Garnacho. He gives us goals and assists. Sell Mainoo instead.
They would never say that because Maino is English. Garancho gets way too much hate. He is our boy and we should support him and protect him. Weird toxic fans just like to downplay his ability every chance they get. He looks scared while playing for us because a large proportion of the fanbase despises him for some reason. Keep the kid and give him the chance which he earned for himself
@luckythrone893 Why are fan so eager to sell Garnacho in Jan. He provides the team with numbers, not the greatest numbers but at least he contributes. We keep saying this team needs more goals, but some fans don't care about that. Mainoo doesn't offer anything to this team. He is an asset we could make 100% profit on. We need a better player in that position anyway. Collyer should start, he's also older. Fans keep saying he's to young This to young nonsense is ridiculous. Look at all the young players in Europe doing well. Collyer has more strength and pace and stamina. This Mainoo agenda is crazy. Keep backing a 3 legged horse.
How much would Napoli want if they were selling Garna to us?
Exactly the right way to think about it
Insulting bid and stupid to sell when they’re so late in the window to get anything better at a lower value
65 million Euros plus 20 percent sell on. But we have to use the money towards bringing in 2 players. I doubt Amorim would agree to sell Garnacho unless he could bring in 2 players now.
I fully expect Rashford to join the overpaid bench warmers sitting out their contracts
I don’t want to see him even on the bench. Let him rot his career away. Joke of a player
It will go in the glazers pocket its not for the team
If MU fans wants 80 millions for Garnacho, we as Sporting fans want at least 150 millions for Gyokeres being sold to MU, more then fair to the player who was the best scorer in the world last season... 62 goals. 🍻
Hilarious
Fair point!
Different leagues boss
That’s fair, Garnacho is a league 2 player.
in a crap league
I would be sorry to see him go but If he wants to leave to further his career let him go.
46M and a sell on clause I think it has to be a yes , Q - would u pay that amount on a player at Garn level of development? I would suggest NO. Fans would say waste of money.
We paid more on leny yoro who looked good playing for one season in France with no pressure or expectations. Yoro is also o. More than double Garnacho’s wages. And from the Southampton spurs and forest games you can see that he is nowhere near it still. So to answer your question we pay more for a player at this stage of his career
If we sell Ganacho mate they'll keep the money and put it against ffp because I bet it's worse than there saying
Some add ons and 40% resell 👍👍👍👍
Take the money and let Garnacho run
Why do you want to sell Garnacho for less than £70 million ?
😂
Keep the kid
We paid more for Antony 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tbh id rather live pretty much anywhere than the UK right now- Napoli, great pizza, nice weather…
I am very happy with Utd's new approach. Jim wants value for money and I dont see any huge money signing in the future.
Garnacho will only be sold to raise the money to bring in 2 other players. He’s the only Man U player other clubs are offering to buy. It makes no sense to sell him other than to raise the money to buy 2 other players Amorim wants now.
Sir Jim the knobhead wudnt be in this position if he showed sum balls when he bought into us and cleared the debt. Those interest payments been killing our psr for years and now we are selling young first teamers. The fan base are getting brainwashed in my humble opinion. Stopping bonuses of staff, charging the fans more and now selling first team academy graduates and I’m seeing fans getting excited? Maybe I’m missing something.
Anything less than 70mil is criminal
70m for someone who cannot do two things well weekly?
Your delusional mate 70 mill 😂
He's not worth that at this present time
I'd take 60 for garna instantly. We don't need wingers in this new system and when was the last time we made this kind of money from a player? We need a 60ml striker so it makes sense
If you watched Amorim’s sporting side he did play with wingers in the 10 and the wing back positions . Also we need to get rid of Rashford Casemiro Lindelof eriksen mount Shaw Antony more than we need money in. Selling those useless players would free up 60 million in wages every year. Also garancho is a better talent than yoro and we spent 60 million on him, an unproven decent cb
Take it. Take it now
Hard disagree on selling him on that price. If it was summer, sure. But it’s January. They have weakened themselves by selling their best player it’s not our problem. Selling garnacho will weaken us because we can’t get replacement at a decent price in Jan. So they have to add extra money on top of what they think his value is. So either keep or sell only at an exorbitant price. Doesn’t make sense to sell in 55m euros.
It’s time for a debate on Rasmus !!!
Yes. Take that. And, put a cap of 150K salary for every new player. Rather than being exploited for the World Class Club factor, let us play at that level and use that in our favour to entice new players.
£46 million for Garnacho = £26 million dividen's for glazers, £15 million dividen's Inios and £5 million for Sir Jim dividen's to pocket, 🙄😭
Exactly. What did they do to gain our trust. The glazers were able to stay for longer because they covered their faces with ineos. We are still slow in the transfer window, and still don’t do anything in January. Which is what the glazers always did.
70m hes yours ...
65 million start price for garnacho
I’d rather sell rashford for 35 million
If sell him for 10 million. He is a big problem stealing the wages of salah
Surely Antony would be better used as a LWB so that the left sided #10 goes inside & Antony overlaps. Using him as RWB and having him cut inside cramps the space the right sided #10 wants to occupy
We shouldn’t use him at all. Amorim obviously doesn’t rate him. And him being on 200k is a disgrace. We should force him out and cut our losses with him. End of
@ I’m no fan either but I’ve never seen him used in what I’d call his best position
We need to add 20% plus sell on
at this moment united should just stop entertaining any bid from napoli. 46 mil is an insult. 70 million pound or stay home. guy is 20 and already has 50 g/a in England. if it was the other way around, we would have been quoted 80 mil minimum
Go for it
You don't keep a player that doesn't want to stay,
Should not Muk around with his career and use him to end of season,he will only get pissed off and not play
Ineos are a disgrace, Done nothing
Glazers debt ‘only’ costs around £32m/year to service. A significant amount but it won’t be a game changer even if it was cleared. Our financial position is screwed because of the horrific overspending on transfers and wages by Arnold/Murtough and co.
A bit of common sense at last. The owners have provided a rediculous amount of money to buy players and it isn’t their fault the money has been wasted on planks. It’s not their decision to give Trashford a new contract at stupid wages either. With the money we have spent we should be winning the Premier League for sure.
Exactly. Casemiro for 70 million at 30 years old and giving him 350k per week which he didn’t earn close to that at Madrid in his prime. Giving Rashford 300k pw after a purple patch that ended in march of the same seaosn. Paying 80 million for Sancho and the. Giving him 300k pw when no one else would and he didn’t earn 50k at Dortmund. Mount for 60 million then giving him 250k. Antony for 85mil then giving him 200k. Old eriksen on 200k. Lindelof who has never been good getting 150k pw. Rasmus for 70 million. Onana for 60 million. Leny yoro for 60mil and then giving him 115k at 19 when he isn’t going to start for us and he hasn’t done anything yet. Pogba for 100 million maguire for 70 mil and getting 190k per week for five years martial had massive wages varane took 350k pw which he didn’t make in his prime and he barely played. Manchester United is paying squid money for players when they should take less to be able to play for us. Joke of a club
@@Malc-k8pthe ownership is definitely at fault because they didn’t have a director of football or a football oriented ceo. Also you don’t sign off any contract a manager wants no matter how bizarre it is. The owners didn’t hire anyone who can negotiate with clubs. And the 32 mill per year they pay to service the debt they gave the club to purchase it which no one else did is not something you defend. No other ownership did that ever. 32 mill is an additional player which you can sign every year.
@@Malc-k8p Trying to absolve the Glazers of blame for our demise is like crashing your car into a tree and blaming it for not getting out of your way.
Don't do business with Calciopoli
If we sell... And dont bring anyone in, how is that helping?
I think We will get 60 mil in the summer, riight now i don't think they will invest the money back only a week left on the transfer
Let him go,he deserves to go to a better club.55 mill is way to much,I'd take it.
Better club? Napoli is not the club you think it is. 2 titles in their entire history. Never been competitive in Europe and their best players always look for a move out as soon as they can. Kvara and osimhen can tell you something
Garnacho has been more than good for his age. Weird fan base to downplay his ability and potential. I think he should be unsellable for no price at all. Otherwise we are just giving away a player that will be a 100 mill euro player in the next 5 years. If someone offered 80 mill pounds now id understand the club to at least listen to the offer. But im sorry. The fan base should be up in arms about this. I guess the fan base is just disillusioned with the whole situation of the club and you end up becoming immune to crazy decisions like selling Garnacho or maino. Fan base is just a bunch of zombies at this point. moaning and groaning as they go along supporting this club. Dead.
Adam, i think you need to look at the structure changes ineos made that you applauded. Amorin does not pick the style of play nor the players that stay and go that is the sporting directors job. Amorin is a coach he picks the team and formation, but that should match the style that the DoF chooses. So its not upto Amorin if a player stays or goes or who comes in so Garnacho going is not a sign of the club backing the manager its a sign united no longer intended to play with wingers for the foreseeable future, is that the style united fans want? No future best, giggsy, beckham? Thats not a united i want to see, sure rashford can go he has shown he doesn't want to work for the shirt, but beyond that losing wingers without replacements is bad for the style and losing a young highly effective starlet is not the united style of the past. They way you talk i think you would have sold giggsy and becks the first time a bid came in. United is more than a balance sheet, it has tradition and style, no board member or owner should be allowed to kill that for a quick buck.
No one will be brought in, as they need the money😂
Think we understand what you’re saying mate, we just don’t agree with you ! Due to his age he’s worth at least 65-75m ! The boy Napoli just sold to PSG went for 70m and he’s a bit older, Garna has a much higher ceiling! 65-75m with a 20% sell on clause.
If good add ons perhaps
You choose to believe Sir Jim's propaganda just because he is English, you try tk make us think Garnacho is pushing for a move yet it's Sir Jim pushing him out for money
No one gave zirkzee a chance or time,and now doing the same with malacia
Not everyone deserves time. Amorim doesn’t like or rate malacia. Boot him out. If he wants him great. Also you’re talking as if Zirkzee has been a revelation. Looking good without scoring or assisting against Southampton or dribbling twice against Arsenal’s after having come on against tired legs is still very below par.
I don’t like Garnacho as a player and I think he’s hit his ceiling already and won’t fit to the Amorim system. However, this club needs to learn to sell players properly. £60m for a 20 year old with a perceived higher ceiling and demand from La Liga clubs is not enough money. £70m should be a minimum figure. £46m is a joke of an offer. The club should play hard ball and turn the current offer down. His value will only increase in the summer market if we don’t get a sale now.
Selling other deadwood is a bigger priority for this window. Esp, Rashford and Cassa.
Amorim literally said he is improving and adapting and that he wants to keep him
Only if he wants to go at this point but otherwise no it's not, like I said before coming the season he had last year ,if untd wanted to buy him ,it would put us back 80mil so do the numbers
If Garnatcho was owned by another team how much would they want if united wanted him, minimum uk £60 mill
How do you know the money from Garnacho will go to buy more players ? Garnacho is worth more than £46 million
Have we bought any player because I would have at least a left back ?
If the money is good then let him go With Jonathan David coming in for 15m Euro also alvaro for about 10m euro....Great business
How do you pay the wages under PSR? Garnacho is on 50k a week do you think either of those player will want less than that let alone both of them? It doesn't matter if you can afford to buy you have to also be able to afford to pay. I would love those players but we need to move on someone who is paid more like Antony or Rashford. Given the low price of these players you suggest, then either Antony or Rashford going would make that deal a positive PSR contribution.
Is it £55 million or is it £55 million plus is the question
60 million pounds or the cost of another season Rashford needs to go first or buy back clause/ sell on
How much "right now"???
Will sell him for 60m euro with 5 in add on. And 10% sell on
Man utd don't want Gyokeres😅😅😅
Tell them to go away
Let's just sell him! He's trouble and isn't all that amazing!!! Very overrated and will bring us some nice profit!
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55m with a big sell on clause
Would Kerkez leave Bournemouth they just stuffed Newcastle 4-1 at Newcastle never mind they beat us has did Newcastle. It not looking great and I would not sell garnacho unless we at least get a left back and a forward in jan which is highly unlikely we can only hope because in the summer we were getting all sorts of players midfielders neves olmo and the rest what did we get ugarte who looks good but what if he gets injured so we should have another for at least cover.
55 million pounds more on par euros it’s too low I’m afraid has to be 50 million pounds or more end of
No chance, it's not pounds is it 😮
Garnacho is going nowhere, we have to build this team around the likes of Garnacho, Mainoo, Yoro and ugarte and hungry young talent.
You won't get that good bid in the summer,do you want to loose that deal for a couple extra mill
Transfermarkt values garnacho at €55 million, so that's his actual valuation. Utd would be stupid not to sell him. And if palmer went for 46 million garnacho's value true is about 20 million
Before moving to chelsea what had Palmer done for man City? He hardly played for them or for ENG. Garnacho is already arg international and has played more than 100 games and has around 50 g/a...so getting palmer money is stupid for us. Also who are we buying to replace him.
Sell him. Better for the player, better for us.
No 70 mill euros minimum