I dislike the leader that "confides" in you about the faults of other comrades or fellow leaders. I can be 100% sure that he also does this to me behind my back.
There is a level of acceptable confidence in your suboordinates. Every leader should have a level of personal understanding with their suboordinates, but there are limitations. A leader who can pick out the faults in his comrades and superiors will hopefully learn from their mistakes and faults to fix their own. However, gossiping about them is a flaw in and of itself, and may undermine team trust within the organization. Confidence is not all bad, but it needs to have its boundaries.
You forgot the "leader" that constantly yells, screams, demeans and cusses. After about two minutes of that the subordinate has mentally checked out. Poor leadership is one of the biggest reasons good Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines do not reenlist.
The best typically reenlist because they know and understand the impermanence of supervisors and leaders, just as we were informed in basic training. Impatient, snowflake enlisteds that forget that, want everything perfect now and forever, and typically desire more recognition than they deserve as well. They fake injuries and illnesses more often too. They are interested in numero uno only, cutting corners, lacking in transparency or openness and join cliques (women are the worst about creating and joining complaint cliques). Put two women in a unit and they'll gravitate to each other for whining and rumoring. If your unit is half or more women, they become catty and start going for each other's throats. You may get a woman who has been appointed to be in charge of a project, because leadership thinks she's hot, and she needs bullets in her performance report; or else they will lie about her involvement and inflate her influence and direct action in a project or mission. This has been going on for decades. Female enlisteds operate at a totally different bar of performance. We expect less, so we get less, and we're happy to promote them. In active duty, chances are good that if you are good, you'll become a leader at some point, even if it is temporary or as a test, or simply put in charge of completing a particular project (short term or long term project or mission), and you'll also screw it up until you learn by experience what motivates others learning as you go, or you'll not change to suit the feedback you are getting or refusing to hear. The best are patient and not so reactive to minor discomforts of following a new leader. The best enlisteds fight for feedback from subordinates and superiors, and spend more time listening and responding than talking. This goes for both followers and leaders.
The narrator and host of this channel was one of the best leaders I’ve ever served with and even though we’re both retired, I’d still follow him anywhere.
I hate pulling rank or pulling seniority. I’ve had that before. I remember before hitting the fleet I was told to always respect rank but that doesn’t mean you have to respect the individual. You also have to be mindful to not blur the two together because that’ll get you in trouble.
I remember as a 2LT I had a problem sergeant. In his defense, all our sergeants had gotten burned by bad planning at the Pentagon level and knew they were all pretty much doomed to never making E7. This did not help their attitudes. One day this sergeant finally got to me, and I called him in my office to give him a chance to explain and ended up yelling at him and reminding him who was who. I knew I had failed even though he really had it coming. He really missed a chance. Whenever you really want to get one over on the boss, all you have to do is take responsibility, explain how and why you should have done better, and say there really isn’t an excuse. They teach this in the military, yet most just don’t learn. It’s like punching your boss in the nose and they aren’t allowed to punch back! One time I did that to my real dirt bag commander. He dismissed me, called his XO into his office, and chewed him out!😂🤣😂 XO couldn’t even be mad at me. 🤣😂🤣
I never served, your videos are informative & inspiring. I work in public transportation. I'm in a foreman position, so leadership is important to me. To my other colleagues, it varies. Some just give out assignments , some help. Some say I don't wanna hear it. You 3 are good examples but you can make a series of these videos. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Oh yeah. Leadership by email. What a balless way to lead or hold people accountable. Use it to reinforce in person communication and leadership. Never substitute.
Had a PL that lead by email except with me since I was the RTO and I was always about 10 steps ahead of the rest of the platoon and was often the main source of guidance for my fellow joes. It's not hard to become a leader, it is hard to be a great one however.
I agree about not leading by rank, however there are situations where a more authoritarian management style will be necessary. This is especially true if the people assigned to you do not want to be there, and do not want to work. I remember one of the worst assignments on the worst shift was sent to the worst employees. Being a line supervisor on that line was a real joy(sarcasm). Sadly may find yourself in charge of people that will only appreciate someone that either lets them do what they want and "respect" someone that makes them fear the consequences of non-compliance. There are often details and assignments where screw ups are assigned. In some jobs there is usually a shift and assignment where all of the undesirable employees get moved. Being a leader in these situations requires a more authoritarian approach if you don't want them to walk all over you. These assignments require ask, tell, make. Often times every order, suggestion, or thing that you say will become an argument, because they seek to test the fence and see what they can get away with. In these situations, instead of endlessly discussing "why" the orders are they are, you may find it is far simpler to remind them exactly where they are on the pecking order, what your rank is, what their rank is, and what their consequences will be for non-compliance. Whenever I get assigned to lead or train someone in a detail that wants to be there, I rarely if ever need to mention rank. Usually I never get past ask, and occasionally tell. Most of the conversation is informal and pleasant, and most of the leading is by example. When I find myself routinely having to go all the way to make, then I know I need to start reminding people of the pecking order. In these situations managers need to start making examples and holding people accountable. They need to experience consequences to get their act together. No more arguing, no more discussion, they do what they are told when they are told or they will be held accountable. No more opinions about the management, supervisors are in charge, period. If they are that kind of employee and quit that won't be a loss, if they get their act together, then they might be salvageable.
Yeah, the email wizard is the worst by today’s standards. I have been a leader for most my life, I don’t micromanage, I instruct subordinates to develop quality of thought, pay attention to detail, be polite and considerate of others, demand truth, accountability and lastly never lose your cool. People who lose it never can get back to where they could have been, they will always be damaged.
Good points. Some ideas for a follow up that might help me is how to change from being a poor leader to a good or even great leader. These points are pretty straightforward. I see these all the time. How to cope and how to overcome these things might help me personally.
I had a Sgt who didn't wear his full kit to a STT (Sergeants Time & Training) and when I asked him why he wasn't wearing it, he just pointed at the rank on his chest and basically told me to fuck off The worst is definitely pulling rank, especially when you're correcting them and they wipe their ass with it
I just found this canal on my card, watched few films and it's really helpful. No complications, just things u need to understand if u want join SOF. Short, but pithy, essential. This encouraged me to take a look at books. Thanks man.
pulling rank for me inadvertently achieves the opposite of what is intended: I lose repect for that person. I don't really give a crap what poeple say, it's what we do that makes us who we are. And people in particular hiding behind rank (mostly) preach water but drink wine.
Always people throw rank at me even when they were wrong. However, it did teach me how to be a better leader. Sometimes somebody doesn't understand my commands, so I make it a note to...understand them myself. I will elaborate on why it is important. If there idea meets the criteria, than we will go with that. Otherwise, we will do it my way and if it doesn't work out...well everyday is a school day.
I only had to pull rank once in my entire career. It was effective, and I got the results I needed, immediately, but only because I only pulled rank once in my entire career. My reluctant subordinate knew that the (dangerous) thing I wanted him to do must be absolutely necessary or I wouldn’t have ORDERED him to do it.
I really, REALLY HATE the 3rd kind especially! Cuz they usually tend to impress equally moronic inferiors/juniors AND superiors/seniors! Which then leads to more, and longer chain of BS...
Great video as always, "leadership by email" is something I have seen fail many times and is a term applicable to other approaches not evolving specifically email too
I never feel satisfied in society, but I feel really satisfied by my coaches and my satisfaction comes beyond people and society, so for me society is redundant not important not interested
"There are two kinds of soldiers in this world. The first kind is the one that follow the rules in the book to the letter and the second kind are those that gets the job done." Jake McNiece "filthy thirteen". Since i am a somewhat informal leader because of knowledge and experience in my field of expertice i prefer to get the job done.
HAHAHAH I love the buzz word comments. Sounds like my commander I had once. Like just talk like a normal person! LOL the LTC reference was spot on! OR To Caveat off of what so and so said..
Perhaps this has to do with the second category, when von Steuben started drilling Americans he noted "In Prussia I tell someone to do something he does it, but here I'm obliged to tell someone why they must do it." The next example has to do with George Orwell in his essay on "Politics and the English Language." In this essay he gives examples of writings from political leaders (many Marxists) and academics and what they wrote is confusing. He outlines his rules which maintains you got to keep things simple when you write, and I think he'd agree on getting rid of the platitudes and slogans. Moreover, in the SOE manual it suggests for propaganda don't think of an academic writing down to a fisherman, think like a fisherman writing up.
What do you do when people challenge your authority? I don't want to pull the rank card, but some people need to be reminded. or maybe i should just get rid of them or pull them off of the assinement & put someone competent on that instead. And then that person can get the reward.
You missed the micro manager. When I was an SSG had a 1LT that loved to wander into my area and "help" by looking over the shoulder of his NCOs and making suggestions. Wanted to strangle that guy.
Literally watched the first 30 seconds of the video and I’m just gonna leave this here. I’m in the 82nd airborne. We have a great group of guys here. I love my platoon but we are always being yelled at for having to respond in our “group chat” on the average day we go to pt then work and then go home but the time we’re not at work information is being pushed out to us and some guys are going to the gym or going out with friends or simply going to sleep while these text messages are being pushed out to us. Leadership relies too much on technology. Some of this info will be pushed out minutes after release of the workday or pt instead of having the whole platoon gathered for an information briefing for the day. You’ll be doing your own stuff on your own time and if you don’t answer this group chat and acknowledge with a Roger or something your phone will be spammed with messages and calls and sometimes when your phone is being spammed your walking somewhere or doing something and can’t answer at that moment lol it’s ridiculous actually. Great video thank you
All 3 of these leadership styles irk me in different ways, but leadership style #3 bothers me the most because you can never get a straight answer out of people like that, they often lack discipline, and they hide their incompetence behind this wall of pseudo-intellectualism. There's nothing wrong with being a more chill/laid back leader. Heck, that's my style as an NCO- BUT stuff has to get done and done correctly
I'm totally laughing 😮 I work for a company in Australia & experience every word of this summarisation 👌 I completed 10 years of service last October & that was acknowledged last Tuesday 😂 I do the most volume of work & I'm treated like an insignificant shadow 😶
It's everywhere that I can see. The 'Californians' are in charge of everything because they realized they can bullshit their way to the top. I doubt this will be corrected anytime soon, at least in America. Hopefully, things turn around faster elsewhere, but I am sure it will be the slowest in the US.
To me it's fun to view these through the eyes of a subordinate. Leadership by Email: "Sweet. This guy never checks up on what's actually going on. We can do whatever the hell we want." Leadership by Pulling Rank: "Wow, this person's a complete asshole. I'm gonna do the opposite of what he/she wants, or do it in a way that pisses them off." Leadership by Slogans and Platitudes: "Just nod, smile, respond with things that are equally hollow and semi-on-topic, and they likely won't know the difference. Then we can go back to doing whatever we like to do." Something I've noticed about leadership, whether tough or compassionate, is that good leaders have an edge. There's something about them that makes it so you don't want to make them mad or let them down. Disobedience or rebellion seems much more costly and troublesome than following them.
Good Video. The worst one I had. The pull rank guy. “ are you questioning a fucking NCO?!!!!!” Well I asked a question, so yes and considering the fact that you never have information or an answer on anything which is proof that you don’t know what the FUCK you’re doing…. Yes. Yes I did.
Leadership, I never face any decent leader in my life, but the best leader and mentor was my mauy Thai coach only when I started Thai boxing before 15 12 13 years
I dislike all three and have dealt with all three over the years. Email is especially evil because it added the third category, which you addressed first. Also deserving of mention are Cell phones, and especially text messages and similar apps deserve their own special place in h*ll as they’re more likely to be poorly timed and intentionally over used.
For sure those who pull rank. We don’t care what rank you are. Take care of us. If you’re pulling rank. There’s a reason why. 9/10 it’s because it’s a stupid decision and your juniors who might know better are saying no
the one i appreciate the MOST>>>> the Authoritarian leadership style... respect my RANK! even if you cannot respect the man in the uniform... doesnt matter if he has a full bird on his lapel or not, a butt shark CO is still a butt shark cruising his nose up the Admirals ASS... now that particular Admiral... id follow into hell and back again... wait... He pulled ME out from hell. thanks again Squadron!
I work for Norfolk Southern Railroad and 'buzzword' was their greatest (weakest) leadership style and it was terrible. Every year or so some ass-hat vice president would come up with some lame, new and disingenuous mantra and all supervisors would embrace it like it was the 11th commandment. All it ever really did was create a giant echo chamber and a gigantic case of year long ear-worm.
I've got two "leaders" now who couldn't lead a starving man to an all you can eat for free buffet. The director is the very epitome of the leader by email. The guy above me is a divisive weasel. Loves stirring the pot. Won't listen to others who have a whole lot of time on the job. He does it his way and manages to screw it up, then blames others for the screwup. Can't make consistent work schedules. Is a narcissist and takes credit for other people's work. Worst of all, he's protected by his work daddy aka, the director. If these two were out in the field during war, they'd probably get fragged by their own men.
You should be leader and not just you --the u's out there. The ones who make youtube vids ...about how to....to to boil eggs, start a camp fire, boil water, cook fish, you know! Everyone wants to be the person who people follow, even if it is a power struggle really. Who doesnt know how to make hard boiled eggs? Leadership by email---be a better follower since you want to be a leader--it just says your not there yet...you cant preform ....
Imagine all three of these bad leadership styles in one man who was your supervisor and who barely spoke English as a second language albeit poorly. Welcome to hell. I forgot to add that this was done in the tribals too.
@Captain Jam 1. All ceos and generals use correspondence emails. The Holy Bible is one big email from God. There's nothing wrong with email unless it's the ONLY method and usually it's because it lacks context, clarification, or the proof the leaders are as invested as you are in the mission. So long as you maintain deep relationships in the down time, emails are excellent and efficient. 2. The purpose of rank is precisely to denote who has more capability overall and who has access to secret information that is not able to be relayed to the main troop. What you think is a stupid idea on the ground very often has a reason which is above your pay grade. Teaching men not to respect the rank system reveals that the system is broken. Something our enemies would love to hear. If it's true that rank is not currently matching people's skillsets, fix the ranking system, not the principle of hierarchy itself. 3. Leaders use slogans, bullet points, ritualistic mantras, and chants since the beginning of human history because they boost moral and engrain instructions in us even in times we aren't always listening. That way in a combat situation we retain the information when we lose prefrontal cortex capability due to stress.
In fighting games, the coach communication is also direct not similar to society, it's way better, people use different ways tools to manipulate others when comes to leadership and communication
😁 I would like to train more and when I reach 40years old, I become fully trained man similar to special force man, than anything else not important, becomes my god, me with my mother, me again with my all coaches, and in the end me and special force unit
When I took the Q-course, the guys from the 10th group who were instructors never talked about their rank, some of them did marches with a backpack with us, they were an example for us. There was a lot of personal communication and they spoke in a simple way with humor.
Pvt. Denver 'Bull' Randleman: I'm gonna say something. Pvt. George Luz: To who? Randleman: Lieutenant Winters! Lt. Richard Winters: What is it? Randleman: Permission to speak, sir. Winters: Granted. Randleman: Sir, we got nine companies, sir. Winters: We do. Randleman: Well, how come we're the only one marching every Friday night, twelve miles, full pack, in the pitch dark? Winters: Why do you think, Private Randleman? Randleman: Lieutenant Sobel hates us, sir. Winters: Lieutenant Sobel does not hate Easy Company, Private Randleman. ... He just hates you. Randleman: Thank you, sir.
When I attended IOBC, there was a senior instructor at formerly Benning who was a SFC who really carried himself well, really knew his stuff, and was an outstanding teacher. He was truly a role model to us young 2LTs learning how to be infantry ossifers. Later learned he had been a major who got passed over twice thanks to the Army’s promotion system and was afforded the courtesy of finishing out his 20 as an E7. He made an impact on all his students. It’s been like 35 years and I can’t remember his name.
I would like to mention the micro-manager and the detached elitist: the former kills initiative and subverts the development of leadership abilities among subordinates by making them afraid to make a move without his specific input, and the latter provides little to no guidance, leaving everyone uncoordinated unsure of their part in the mission, and unable to prepare and coordinate.
I worked with an individual that when they were in a leadership position, always had to walk away and check with his superior before going ahead. It seriously bogged us down and impeded the team efforts. He finally self selected out. Nice guy, but afraid to make a decision on his own.
@@SocialistDistancing Too many infantry units breed this type of leader. In some instances that I've personally witnessed, guys up to SSG weren't even able to operate autonomously without a go from PSG/LT/1SG permission, even for simple shit like "Hey we just finished all go-home tasks, i'm going to take my guys out and practice BD6". It was a 50/50 chance if they were actually able to go train or not, and if the leadership decided no, they sat in the Cof with their thumbs up their ass until COB because that's all they were allowed to do
Sadly, this our top government leaders these days. It seems to have become a bipartisan affair. The current administration is now suffering because the President is just too old and the bench was not deep. There’s a lot of bright people with little experience trying to make it up as they go along.
As a leader, it should be known that your subordinates will always have an opinion of you. If you stay in a nice warm tent while your section is freezing at 3am in a trench, they might start to hold some negative opinions. But if your that leader who’s willing to put in some work and lead by example your troops will do anything for you.
I had a guy like this in the fire academy. He literally was one of the smartest cadets in the class and happened to have gone through another academy prior so he thought his shit didn’t stink. He talked down to everyone and barked orders all the time. No one liked him and he almost got kicked out. Some of the people who feel they need to lead are usually the super insecure people who haven’t properly been put in place.
As someone who has most of my career in intelligence, the field fosters and harbors the largest contingent of blue falcons. The level of scum and villainy is only surpassed by lawyers and politicians.
as some1 who was in the S-4 that dealt with S-2 on daily basis. You guys Article 15 or try to get enough to NJP a junior enlisted on minor infractions no1 would really care about. Also the non-recs is amazing. way to kill morale. dunno if thats how its run throughout the whole intel community but for the 2 units i was with, it rang true.
In the Corps, we had the "coffee cup gunnys". Just pining away towards retirement with mininal effort, passed over for First Sargaent. Completely useless.
I really appreciate you making this video. In my time as a leader for different things, I had made several of the mistakes you listed. I wrote verbose emails, I repeated myself so often that it annoyed my subordinates, and I had trouble seeing the fault in what I was doing. Making long winded and verbose speeches to say simple things and to repeat it constantly only detracts people from what you are saying. Part of being an effective communicator, as all leaders should be, is getting engagement from your audience. If you aren't engaging your audience then you are failing regardless of how flawlessly you hit a 4k word mark on your document. And the biggest hurdle for me was overcoming that idea of my infallibility through word-count, when instead I should be almost exclusively focusing on getting the message across instead. Of course old habits die hard, and this comment is evidence of that. Thank you, sir.
Fellow verbose-leader type here 😬 Being concise is really hard when you're trying to paint a picture with words, rather than convey information. But also, editing takes so much damn time. Ugh lmao
I had a boss tell me that "if you have to tell someone your title, you're not doing your job right" . That has stuck with me ever since.
That goes hand-in-hand with chasing job titles
Also people from the outside should easily be able to tell who is in charge.
I heard "if you have to tell someone you're in charge, you're not in charge"
He should be a good boss.
"Anybody who has to say 'I am king' is no true king." -Tywin Lannister
Being a lower enlisted during my time the worst leaders for me where the ones who pulled the rank card.
There’s no such phrase as lower enlisted. Try junior or novice enlisted(ee).☮️🇺🇸☯️
@@d.wright2725 there’s obviously such a phrase since he just used it. Gtfoh tool
I dislike the leader that "confides" in you about the faults of other comrades or fellow leaders. I can be 100% sure that he also does this to me behind my back.
There is a level of acceptable confidence in your suboordinates. Every leader should have a level of personal understanding with their suboordinates, but there are limitations. A leader who can pick out the faults in his comrades and superiors will hopefully learn from their mistakes and faults to fix their own.
However, gossiping about them is a flaw in and of itself, and may undermine team trust within the organization. Confidence is not all bad, but it needs to have its boundaries.
You forgot the "leader" that constantly yells, screams, demeans and cusses. After about two minutes of that the subordinate has mentally checked out. Poor leadership is one of the biggest reasons good Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines do not reenlist.
Who wants a failure as a leader
we should reeintroduce the Classics like mutiny and killing the superior officer
The best typically reenlist because they know and understand the impermanence of supervisors and leaders, just as we were informed in basic training. Impatient, snowflake enlisteds that forget that, want everything perfect now and forever, and typically desire more recognition than they deserve as well. They fake injuries and illnesses more often too. They are interested in numero uno only, cutting corners, lacking in transparency or openness and join cliques (women are the worst about creating and joining complaint cliques). Put two women in a unit and they'll gravitate to each other for whining and rumoring. If your unit is half or more women, they become catty and start going for each other's throats. You may get a woman who has been appointed to be in charge of a project, because leadership thinks she's hot, and she needs bullets in her performance report; or else they will lie about her involvement and inflate her influence and direct action in a project or mission. This has been going on for decades. Female enlisteds operate at a totally different bar of performance. We expect less, so we get less, and we're happy to promote them.
In active duty, chances are good that if you are good, you'll become a leader at some point, even if it is temporary or as a test, or simply put in charge of completing a particular project (short term or long term project or mission), and you'll also screw it up until you learn by experience what motivates others learning as you go, or you'll not change to suit the feedback you are getting or refusing to hear. The best are patient and not so reactive to minor discomforts of following a new leader. The best enlisteds fight for feedback from subordinates and superiors, and spend more time listening and responding than talking. This goes for both followers and leaders.
the smallest dogs bark the loudest
This on so many levels, I had a 1SG that would bitch about his exwife while we were in final formation.
The narrator and host of this channel was one of the best leaders I’ve ever served with and even though we’re both retired, I’d still follow him anywhere.
Yeah, but what about that guy who sends you an email full of buzzwords to let you know they outrank you?
satan himself
this example of a REMF does not get to play the big kid really stupid games
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reply to him all the emperors outranked their Praetorian guards in theory
I hate pulling rank or pulling seniority. I’ve had that before.
I remember before hitting the fleet I was told to always respect rank but that doesn’t mean you have to respect the individual. You also have to be mindful to not blur the two together because that’ll get you in trouble.
I remember as a 2LT I had a problem sergeant. In his defense, all our sergeants had gotten burned by bad planning at the Pentagon level and knew they were all pretty much doomed to never making E7. This did not help their attitudes.
One day this sergeant finally got to me, and I called him in my office to give him a chance to explain and ended up yelling at him and reminding him who was who. I knew I had failed even though he really had it coming.
He really missed a chance. Whenever you really want to get one over on the boss, all you have to do is take responsibility, explain how and why you should have done better, and say there really isn’t an excuse. They teach this in the military, yet most just don’t learn. It’s like punching your boss in the nose and they aren’t allowed to punch back! One time I did that to my real dirt bag commander. He dismissed me, called his XO into his office, and chewed him out!😂🤣😂 XO couldn’t even be mad at me. 🤣😂🤣
I never served, your videos are informative & inspiring. I work in public transportation. I'm in a foreman position, so leadership is important to me. To my other colleagues, it varies. Some just give out assignments , some help. Some say I don't wanna hear it.
You 3 are good examples but you can make a series of these videos. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Oh yeah. Leadership by email. What a balless way to lead or hold people accountable. Use it to reinforce in person communication and leadership. Never substitute.
Had a PL that lead by email except with me since I was the RTO and I was always about 10 steps ahead of the rest of the platoon and was often the main source of guidance for my fellow joes. It's not hard to become a leader, it is hard to be a great one however.
I agree about not leading by rank, however there are situations where a more authoritarian management style will be necessary. This is especially true if the people assigned to you do not want to be there, and do not want to work. I remember one of the worst assignments on the worst shift was sent to the worst employees. Being a line supervisor on that line was a real joy(sarcasm).
Sadly may find yourself in charge of people that will only appreciate someone that either lets them do what they want and "respect" someone that makes them fear the consequences of non-compliance. There are often details and assignments where screw ups are assigned. In some jobs there is usually a shift and assignment where all of the undesirable employees get moved. Being a leader in these situations requires a more authoritarian approach if you don't want them to walk all over you.
These assignments require ask, tell, make. Often times every order, suggestion, or thing that you say will become an argument, because they seek to test the fence and see what they can get away with. In these situations, instead of endlessly discussing "why" the orders are they are, you may find it is far simpler to remind them exactly where they are on the pecking order, what your rank is, what their rank is, and what their consequences will be for non-compliance.
Whenever I get assigned to lead or train someone in a detail that wants to be there, I rarely if ever need to mention rank. Usually I never get past ask, and occasionally tell. Most of the conversation is informal and pleasant, and most of the leading is by example. When I find myself routinely having to go all the way to make, then I know I need to start reminding people of the pecking order.
In these situations managers need to start making examples and holding people accountable. They need to experience consequences to get their act together. No more arguing, no more discussion, they do what they are told when they are told or they will be held accountable. No more opinions about the management, supervisors are in charge, period. If they are that kind of employee and quit that won't be a loss, if they get their act together, then they might be salvageable.
Yeah, the email wizard is the worst by today’s standards. I have been a leader for most my life, I don’t micromanage, I instruct subordinates to develop quality of thought, pay attention to detail, be polite and considerate of others, demand truth, accountability and lastly never lose your cool. People who lose it never can get back to where they could have been, they will always be damaged.
Good points. Some ideas for a follow up that might help me is how to change from being a poor leader to a good or even great leader. These points are pretty straightforward. I see these all the time. How to cope and how to overcome these things might help me personally.
Don’t be an asshole. Learn to reflect, and think “Would I want to be lead like this?”
I had a Sgt who didn't wear his full kit to a STT (Sergeants Time & Training) and when I asked him why he wasn't wearing it, he just pointed at the rank on his chest and basically told me to fuck off
The worst is definitely pulling rank, especially when you're correcting them and they wipe their ass with it
"Any man who says I am the king is no true king"
I just found this canal on my card, watched few films and it's really helpful. No complications, just things u need to understand if u want join SOF. Short, but pithy, essential. This encouraged me to take a look at books. Thanks man.
pulling rank for me inadvertently achieves the opposite of what is intended: I lose repect for that person. I don't really give a crap what poeple say, it's what we do that makes us who we are. And people in particular hiding behind rank (mostly) preach water but drink wine.
🤣 your impression of the politician was flipping hilarious!! 😂
Always people throw rank at me even when they were wrong. However, it did teach me how to be a better leader. Sometimes somebody doesn't understand my commands, so I make it a note to...understand them myself. I will elaborate on why it is important. If there idea meets the criteria, than we will go with that. Otherwise, we will do it my way and if it doesn't work out...well everyday is a school day.
Picture on 2:48. Anyone who’s ever gone to Navy OCS at Newport knows that CKZ very well. Seeing that brought back memories
I only had to pull rank once in my entire career. It was effective, and I got the results I needed, immediately, but only because I only pulled rank once in my entire career. My reluctant subordinate knew that the (dangerous) thing I wanted him to do must be absolutely necessary or I wouldn’t have ORDERED him to do it.
I swear, this explains just about every leader I have had in EMS.
I really, REALLY HATE the 3rd kind especially! Cuz they usually tend to impress equally moronic inferiors/juniors AND superiors/seniors! Which then leads to more, and longer chain of BS...
"Any man who must say i am the king is no true king" - tywin lannister
Great video as always, "leadership by email" is something I have seen fail many times and is a term applicable to other approaches not evolving specifically email too
Text messaging
more leadership vids please. as a leader I demand it!
If you must demand it, then leadership is not working ...
I never feel satisfied in society, but I feel really satisfied by my coaches and my satisfaction comes beyond people and society, so for me society is redundant not important not interested
Thank you for posting this. I want to be a good leader. This helps.
3:20 😂 that was really really really funny and 5:33 was the chef’s kiss
Thank you for the valuable information provided.
Man really fit in the synergy meme in the platitude part
I had a GS try to get me to type out a document for them. I simply said "I'm not your secretary".
Leadership by buzzwords is probably the most common leadership stile
6:10 hey Lt. Col BF you forgot to say that youll do it becoming a force multiplier
Love it, sharing to my Facebook feed 🥋🙏
I am surrounded by all three of these examples!
I love how I can hear the frustration.
I've never seen a video that I agree with more.😅
Those based upon: religion, identity politics, personal beliefs, title, inflexibility, feeling threatened, threatening, coercive, etc
"There are two kinds of soldiers in this world.
The first kind is the one that follow the rules in the book to the letter and the second kind are those that gets the job done." Jake McNiece "filthy thirteen".
Since i am a somewhat informal leader because of knowledge and experience in my field of expertice i prefer to get the job done.
HAHAHAH I love the buzz word comments. Sounds like my commander I had once. Like just talk like a normal person! LOL the LTC reference was spot on! OR To Caveat off of what so and so said..
Bro I absolutely lost it at falcon
I remember the saying, if you have to tell someone your in charge, you're not in charge.
I have worked with and met everyone of these type of people both in the air force and in civilian life......there are too many of them....
People are fascinating.
I quit a job I had for 18years for basically these very reasons
“That’s what it’s all about. That’s the name of the game. THAT’S how we make our money!"
Perhaps this has to do with the second category, when von Steuben started drilling Americans he noted "In Prussia I tell someone to do something he does it, but here I'm obliged to tell someone why they must do it." The next example has to do with George Orwell in his essay on "Politics and the English Language." In this essay he gives examples of writings from political leaders (many Marxists) and academics and what they wrote is confusing. He outlines his rules which maintains you got to keep things simple when you write, and I think he'd agree on getting rid of the platitudes and slogans. Moreover, in the SOE manual it suggests for propaganda don't think of an academic writing down to a fisherman, think like a fisherman writing up.
Sometimes that abuse of words might also be called “word salad;” the worst tasting of all-thank you.
The best leaders lead by example!
The Peter Principal
Rise the level of their incompetentance
To many cases of poor leadership have lead to disaster in Military History
Speaking of leadership and management, how close did "Dilbert" reflect your time in service?
What do you do when people challenge your authority? I don't want to pull the rank card, but some people need to be reminded. or maybe i should just get rid of them or pull them off of the assinement & put someone competent on that instead. And then that person can get the reward.
You missed the micro manager. When I was an SSG had a 1LT that loved to wander into my area and "help" by looking over the shoulder of his NCOs and making suggestions. Wanted to strangle that guy.
Literally watched the first 30 seconds of the video and I’m just gonna leave this here. I’m in the 82nd airborne. We have a great group of guys here. I love my platoon but we are always being yelled at for having to respond in our “group chat” on the average day we go to pt then work and then go home but the time we’re not at work information is being pushed out to us and some guys are going to the gym or going out with friends or simply going to sleep while these text messages are being pushed out to us. Leadership relies too much on technology. Some of this info will be pushed out minutes after release of the workday or pt instead of having the whole platoon gathered for an information briefing for the day. You’ll be doing your own stuff on your own time and if you don’t answer this group chat and acknowledge with a Roger or something your phone will be spammed with messages and calls and sometimes when your phone is being spammed your walking somewhere or doing something and can’t answer at that moment lol it’s ridiculous actually. Great video thank you
Thanks.
All 3 of these leadership styles irk me in different ways, but leadership style #3 bothers me the most because you can never get a straight answer out of people like that, they often lack discipline, and they hide their incompetence behind this wall of pseudo-intellectualism. There's nothing wrong with being a more chill/laid back leader. Heck, that's my style as an NCO- BUT stuff has to get done and done correctly
I'm totally laughing 😮 I work for a company in Australia & experience every word of this summarisation 👌 I completed 10 years of service last October & that was acknowledged last Tuesday 😂 I do the most volume of work & I'm treated like an insignificant shadow 😶
It's everywhere that I can see. The 'Californians' are in charge of everything because they realized they can bullshit their way to the top. I doubt this will be corrected anytime soon, at least in America. Hopefully, things turn around faster elsewhere, but I am sure it will be the slowest in the US.
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To me it's fun to view these through the eyes of a subordinate.
Leadership by Email: "Sweet. This guy never checks up on what's actually going on. We can do whatever the hell we want."
Leadership by Pulling Rank: "Wow, this person's a complete asshole. I'm gonna do the opposite of what he/she wants, or do it in a way that pisses them off."
Leadership by Slogans and Platitudes: "Just nod, smile, respond with things that are equally hollow and semi-on-topic, and they likely won't know the difference. Then we can go back to doing whatever we like to do."
Something I've noticed about leadership, whether tough or compassionate, is that good leaders have an edge. There's something about them that makes it so you don't want to make them mad or let them down. Disobedience or rebellion seems much more costly and troublesome than following them.
Can I really not call my dudes "brother"? awwww come on.
I believe in leadership by example and shaming.
I want to post this on my Battery group chat soooo bad😂
Good Video.
The worst one I had. The pull rank guy. “ are you questioning a fucking NCO?!!!!!” Well I asked a question, so yes and considering the fact that you never have information or an answer on anything which is proof that you don’t know what the FUCK you’re doing…. Yes. Yes I did.
Leadership, I never face any decent leader in my life, but the best leader and mentor was my mauy Thai coach only when I started Thai boxing before 15 12 13 years
Well . I seen people pulling ranks before. A lot of cases.
Spot on…
Leadership by buzzwords = almost ever corporate executive (I won't call them leaders). A corollary of this is leadership by latest management fad.
Perfect.
The three styles of leadership: Authoritarian, participative and free-rein.
I dislike all three and have dealt with all three over the years. Email is especially evil because it added the third category, which you addressed first. Also deserving of mention are Cell phones, and especially text messages and similar apps deserve their own special place in h*ll as they’re more likely to be poorly timed and intentionally over used.
The worst is one you didn't acknowledge...the micro manager
Damn I'm a repeater....
I believe real leadership is to served your subordinates
For sure those who pull rank. We don’t care what rank you are. Take care of us. If you’re pulling rank. There’s a reason why. 9/10 it’s because it’s a stupid decision and your juniors who might know better are saying no
the one i appreciate the MOST>>>> the Authoritarian leadership style... respect my RANK! even if you cannot respect the man in the uniform... doesnt matter if he has a full bird on his lapel or not, a butt shark CO is still a butt shark cruising his nose up the Admirals ASS... now that particular Admiral... id follow into hell and back again... wait... He pulled ME out from hell. thanks again Squadron!
I work for Norfolk Southern Railroad and 'buzzword' was their greatest (weakest) leadership style and it was terrible. Every year or so some ass-hat vice president would come up with some lame, new and disingenuous mantra and all supervisors would embrace it like it was the 11th commandment. All it ever really did was create a giant echo chamber and a gigantic case of year long ear-worm.
leadership by buzzwords "behoove"
If I join the US Army today will I get 2 more moms?
I've got two "leaders" now who couldn't lead a starving man to an all you can eat for free buffet. The director is the very epitome of the leader by email. The guy above me is a divisive weasel. Loves stirring the pot. Won't listen to others who have a whole lot of time on the job. He does it his way and manages to screw it up, then blames others for the screwup. Can't make consistent work schedules. Is a narcissist and takes credit for other people's work. Worst of all, he's protected by his work daddy aka, the director.
If these two were out in the field during war, they'd probably get fragged by their own men.
You should be leader and not just you --the u's out there. The ones who make youtube vids ...about how to....to to boil eggs, start a camp fire, boil water, cook fish, you know! Everyone wants to be the person who people follow, even if it is a power struggle really. Who doesnt know how to make hard boiled eggs?
Leadership by email---be a better follower since you want to be a leader--it just says your not there yet...you cant preform ....
Imagine all three of these bad leadership styles in one man who was your supervisor and who barely spoke English as a second language albeit poorly. Welcome to hell. I forgot to add that this was done in the tribals too.
I dislike all of these styles! Keep communication short and to the point! You'll be respected more by leading from the front, not the back!!!
4:46 ah yes the CCP buzzword style speech
The buzz words guy souns like he can fluff up any award or Evaluation Report lol
lmfao love this guy
Best leadership styles:
1. Open source RUclips
2. From an anonymous guy whom nobody can verify
3. Who gives bro science bullet points
Do you have an actual criticism or are you just going to say you don't like it and move on?
@Captain Jam 1. All ceos and generals use correspondence emails. The Holy Bible is one big email from God.
There's nothing wrong with email unless it's the ONLY method and usually it's because it lacks context, clarification, or the proof the leaders are as invested as you are in the mission.
So long as you maintain deep relationships in the down time, emails are excellent and efficient.
2. The purpose of rank is precisely to denote who has more capability overall and who has access to secret information that is not able to be relayed to the main troop.
What you think is a stupid idea on the ground very often has a reason which is above your pay grade.
Teaching men not to respect the rank system reveals that the system is broken. Something our enemies would love to hear.
If it's true that rank is not currently matching people's skillsets, fix the ranking system, not the principle of hierarchy itself.
3. Leaders use slogans, bullet points, ritualistic mantras, and chants since the beginning of human history because they boost moral and engrain instructions in us even in times we aren't always listening.
That way in a combat situation we retain the information when we lose prefrontal cortex capability due to stress.
None of these are that bad. Leadership by yelling, psychological abuse and manipulation are worse.
In fighting games, the coach communication is also direct not similar to society, it's way better, people use different ways tools to manipulate others when comes to leadership and communication
Only in fighting, the coach is best leader and friend, in society any other form of leadership is worst
😁 I would like to train more and when I reach 40years old, I become fully trained man similar to special force man, than anything else not important, becomes my god, me with my mother, me again with my all coaches, and in the end me and special force unit
"Any man who says I.. AM... THE.... KING..... is no true king".
When I took the Q-course, the guys from the 10th group who were instructors never talked about their rank, some of them did marches with a backpack with us, they were an example for us. There was a lot of personal communication and they spoke in a simple way with humor.
Pvt. Denver 'Bull' Randleman: I'm gonna say something.
Pvt. George Luz: To who?
Randleman: Lieutenant Winters!
Lt. Richard Winters: What is it?
Randleman: Permission to speak, sir.
Winters: Granted.
Randleman: Sir, we got nine companies, sir.
Winters: We do.
Randleman: Well, how come we're the only one marching every Friday night, twelve miles, full pack, in the pitch dark?
Winters: Why do you think, Private Randleman?
Randleman: Lieutenant Sobel hates us, sir.
Winters: Lieutenant Sobel does not hate Easy Company, Private Randleman. ... He just hates you.
Randleman: Thank you, sir.
When I attended IOBC, there was a senior instructor at formerly Benning who was a SFC who really carried himself well, really knew his stuff, and was an outstanding teacher. He was truly a role model to us young 2LTs learning how to be infantry ossifers. Later learned he had been a major who got passed over twice thanks to the Army’s promotion system and was afforded the courtesy of finishing out his 20 as an E7. He made an impact on all his students. It’s been like 35 years and I can’t remember his name.
I would like to mention the micro-manager and the detached elitist: the former kills initiative and subverts the development of leadership abilities among subordinates by making them afraid to make a move without his specific input, and the latter provides little to no guidance, leaving everyone uncoordinated unsure of their part in the mission, and unable to prepare and coordinate.
I worked with an individual that when they were in a leadership position, always had to walk away and check with his superior before going ahead. It seriously bogged us down and impeded the team efforts. He finally self selected out. Nice guy, but afraid to make a decision on his own.
@@SocialistDistancing Too many infantry units breed this type of leader. In some instances that I've personally witnessed, guys up to SSG weren't even able to operate autonomously without a go from PSG/LT/1SG permission, even for simple shit like "Hey we just finished all go-home tasks, i'm going to take my guys out and practice BD6". It was a 50/50 chance if they were actually able to go train or not, and if the leadership decided no, they sat in the Cof with their thumbs up their ass until COB because that's all they were allowed to do
Sadly, this our top government leaders these days. It seems to have become a bipartisan affair. The current administration is now suffering because the President is just too old and the bench was not deep. There’s a lot of bright people with little experience trying to make it up as they go along.
As a leader, it should be known that your subordinates will always have an opinion of you. If you stay in a nice warm tent while your section is freezing at 3am in a trench, they might start to hold some negative opinions. But if your that leader who’s willing to put in some work and lead by example your troops will do anything for you.
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I had a guy like this in the fire academy. He literally was one of the smartest cadets in the class and happened to have gone through another academy prior so he thought his shit didn’t stink. He talked down to everyone and barked orders all the time. No one liked him and he almost got kicked out. Some of the people who feel they need to lead are usually the super insecure people who haven’t properly been put in place.
As someone who has most of my career in intelligence, the field fosters and harbors the largest contingent of blue falcons. The level of scum and villainy is only surpassed by lawyers and politicians.
Leave it the Col to show us the way! 3-325 stays alive lmao! 🎉🎉🎉
as some1 who was in the S-4 that dealt with S-2 on daily basis. You guys Article 15 or try to get enough to NJP a junior enlisted on minor infractions no1 would really care about. Also the non-recs is amazing. way to kill morale. dunno if thats how its run throughout the whole intel community but for the 2 units i was with, it rang true.
In the Corps, we had the "coffee cup gunnys". Just pining away towards retirement with mininal effort, passed over for First Sargaent. Completely useless.
@@evilchaperone They're on the R.O.A.D. program.
"Learn to obey before you command" Solon of Athens
I really appreciate you making this video.
In my time as a leader for different things, I had made several of the mistakes you listed. I wrote verbose emails, I repeated myself so often that it annoyed my subordinates, and I had trouble seeing the fault in what I was doing. Making long winded and verbose speeches to say simple things and to repeat it constantly only detracts people from what you are saying. Part of being an effective communicator, as all leaders should be, is getting engagement from your audience. If you aren't engaging your audience then you are failing regardless of how flawlessly you hit a 4k word mark on your document. And the biggest hurdle for me was overcoming that idea of my infallibility through word-count, when instead I should be almost exclusively focusing on getting the message across instead.
Of course old habits die hard, and this comment is evidence of that.
Thank you, sir.
Fellow verbose-leader type here 😬
Being concise is really hard when you're trying to paint a picture with words, rather than convey information.
But also, editing takes so much damn time. Ugh lmao