WOULD YOU QUIT Special Operations or Military Training? Top 6 Reasons Others Do
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Let’s examine the top 6 reasons that candidates quit Special Operations training and then discuss ways that you can mitigate these “reasons for quitting” in order to be more successful.
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When I wanted to quit, I remembered what my father said to me before I left for boot camp, "You'll wash out". Every time I felt like quitting, I used that to motivate me to finish, just to prove him wrong. I didn't know that he was proud of me until after he died and I heard it from his friends. He never said anything to me about it.
That's sad. I tell my children that I love them and I am Very Proud of them.
My eldest is a Navy Nuke. I cry when I drop my Sailor of at his ship when they are going underway.
Granted a Nuke is not physical. But mentally tough.
I know basic is basic but my Dad
Doubted me
Said I would never actually join
Proved that wrong, and still use that to this day
What does “you will wash out” mean??
@@klrkss
Quit.
“Do what you want to do” rather than “Be what your want to be” is great advice.
I'm a 31-year-old who was looking to give back to a country that has given me so much. So, a month ago, after three attempts, I finally passed the Air Force's PAST test twice and got my contract. Nov 9th I ship out for BMT. 8 weeks later I'll be at special warfare prep to get ready for Pararescue selection. I'd just like to say thank you to this channel as it was the first channel that informed me on what a Pj is and motivated me to begin this journey just over a year ago. The information provided here has been invaluable and I am forever grateful.
congrats, don’t give up
@@khakipeach2128 🙏
Congratulations. Go and Get It Done.
Don’t give up brother. It’s gonna suck, you’re gonna be far from home, surrounded by assholes, you’re always going to be told what to do when to do it and how to do it, and you’re not gonna get much sleep. It’s gonna suck so much, but it’ll be worth it
Congrats, friend! You're an example and inspiration to me. Good luck!
I attended military school and some courses. What I suffered the most was sleep deprivation. I was fine with combat, running fully geared up, lack of eating or eating a full meal in less than 5 mins and then run again, but I never got used to sleep deprivation for long periods of time. Now that I'm a bit old and no longer on active duty, I sleep 10 hours a day, every day.
YES, that is correct. There simply is no substitute for half way decent rest. Too much could also be just as bad as not enough. Also exercising or not, working or not, vacationing, or otherwise if you sleep in a physically uncomfortable position when you wake up it will only feel worse.
Totally agree . Lack of sleep is absolutely horrible , and comes a point all the willpower in the world won’t keep you from going delusional.
that's tough
Dude for reals that’s me. I have a weakness for sleep. You can take anything from me but take my 40 winks and I’ll lose it. When I get out of the Corps that’s one of the things I’ll enjoy the most.
I wish I could get 10 hours of sleep a week.
Never give up, no matter how big the opposition is. Take every challenge, even if it seems impossible. You'll get further than you think, and you'll do better than you imagine.
Truth! There's always a way to get the job done.
that's right, having the courage to face the challenge is the hardest part
damn facts
Well said, everyday is a challenge for all of us including myself to be engaged in the battlefield called life
This is a fact, learned it the hard way.
I went to SF selection at 32 years old, We started with 240, and 77 were selected. I Graduated the Q course at 34 years old, with 22% of the original class graduating. Rewind back When I was 19, in Airborne school, the Ranger liaison gave daily announcements at the last formation for anyone that wants to volunteer for RIP. I had no clue what RIP was but this dude wore a Black Beret, had a Ranger Tab and was a Fking Beast, and I wanted to be a beast too, so I volunteered for it. In Airborne school I started out in a 12 man room, then During Jump week, I was the only one left in the room. Everyone else quit or got dropped. Every day after training, I kept seeing empty bunks and wall lockers until I was alone. Jump week was lonely for me..lol. So after Airborne graduation, we get on a few buses and head over to the old WW II RIP barracks at the top of Cardiac Hill. We unload the bus, into a formation that was waiting for us….from there we did over 600 push-ups, 600 side straddle hops, 600 flutter kicks, everything we did was 600 and we low crawled around the WW II barracks for over 4 hours. What kept me going was the instructor did all of this shit with us. We lost well over 100 men and it wasn’t even day one. My RIP class graduated under 30 men. I think we started with over 300. If you get in top physical condition and the right mindset everything will be cake. Just like the song says…….100 men will test today, and only 3 win the Green Beret, I think of how I looked to my right and left, in formations and over the days of training people would just disappear. Now that I’m old and broken sometimes people ask me if I’d do it all over again…… I just smile and I think to myself……this guy has no clue.
I watched a documentary years back about how the leader's we're allowing people to graduate when the instructors where trying to fail them. The war was in full swing and they needed bodies to fill the mission. Needles to say the instructors were not happy.
I'll always remember what my Marine recruiter has said to me and others around me that when it comes to Basic training and advance training plus your missions in the military is to take one day at a time regardless, because everyday is a challenge in itself, do quit, improvise adapt and overcome
Inch by inch life is a cinch. Yard by yard life is hard.
Your video is really helpful to me. I failed the Asvab 4 times. I am taking the fifth one in next 3 weeks. I dont give up. Every time I fail, I feel stronger and stronger Because I know one thing. I did win my self. My motivation is “Pass Asvab and Go Airborne”. 82nd All the way. I hope i can make it this time.
Did you do it
The most transparent, pragmatic, and “real” explanation of going through a gauntlet that I’ve ever seen. 👍
This is so true, not only for special forces training but basic training as well. I just graduated from basic training for the army. My platoon started with 52 trainees and only graduated with 44. And that was only my platoon. Other one's lost more then mine. It's sad to see how far my generation has fallen. Some of them even had 18x contract's.
Lol, wash out of basic with an 18x is just sad
If it's not for them it's not for them. No reason to down them just because they chose they didn't want to live that life despite thinking they did.
What is really scary is that something like 75% of today’s young adults can’t even meet the basic standards for enlistment in any MOS of any branch.
Well done man what regiment have you joined
Wow, there is really no excuse for not making it through basic. They train you up physically, and you get plenty of rest and sleep. We had some complete losers who failed to adapt to the military discipline and one guy was literally psycho...but any average person should make it no problem.
They won’t intentionally kill you or ask you to do something impossible in any of the selection or training programs. Just keep going one step at a time, and don’t quit.
Just keep asking g yourself "How badly do you want it?"
Thank you so much for all the information that you put out and the time and effort it must take to make these videos. I’m shipping off to basic in 10 months on a Ranger contract and I want to try out for SF selection after a few years. These videos have helped so much when it comes to learning how not to quit when it gets tough.
Wish I saw this before I went to infantry school. I learned all this the hard way.
Thank you man. This video really made me look at special operations training seem like any other day. But with what I love doing. I always used to doubt if I would make it. Now I just prepare until I am old enough, go for it, dive into it, head first, hard and fast.
I always remember this quote, oddly enough from thundercats: I may lose but it won't be because I gave up
The majority of it is a mental game....but the physical fitness part can be just as tough if you weren't preparing for it....
I believe every human being has the same purpose, which is self-mastery, while serving family, community, nation, and the world. Every human being has a specific "mission"/ "calling". This has nothing to do with religion. Are you being called to be a special operations member?
Lack virtues, character, values, and ethics will force most candidates to quit or fail.
Special Operations members who lack virtues, character, values and ethics, get kicked out, divorced, and/or have Uniform Code of Military Justice proceedings.
Thanks for your videos. (You mentioned in the man plan video that you are not doing it for money, this is why I think we should thank you). In my opinion, civilians can learn a lot from it, e.g. from the personal apperance video. As to me, your videos really helped me to "endure" more. For example, not eating something as soon as I feel just a bit of appetite, not complaining about cold temperatures or other inconveniences. Do not get me wrong. This is nothing compared to what soldiers in the field struggle with, but it is also worth a lot to toughen up im everyday life. By now I can feel a difference compared to what my peers complain about, and I have always been one of the tougher ones. When I was 15, one job during summer holidays was paving. I am also a martial artist. Today I trained ground fighting with a former soldier, a really though guy who was in the field, almost died there, and who endured a lot of crazy fights in the ring almost everyone I know would have given up. Today, he asked me, if I was ready to fight, like my life depends on it (of course meaning he would give me a hard time, but I should show him all I got). One Judo choke was especially painful, but I endured and the others said "He's got the spirtit". So, compared to other men my age (I am 26, I am though. And even I feel that I learn from your videos.
I thought, you might be happy to read such a feedback.
P.S. Of course, I will buy your new book soon.
Whether you think you can do it or if you know you'll quit, you are probably right. Many things I'm life are obtainable, but are certainly mind games.
The new intro tho 🥵 Super good info as well thank you man
People that were in the US Military whether they were a member of any given special forces unit have often said someone didn't make it because they fell in love with the dream but but didn't catch or stay with the reality.
The meaning of life is through suffering.
As someone who got an opinion 40 contract and ships out in less than 20 days I’m glad I watched this video, thank you man
Goodluck brother. It isn’t fun, but it’s easier now than it was with some big army changes
Competitive shooting is very difficult, it provides reaching down within yourself to deal with adversity and demands of winning. So many times I felt despair during the various stages of firing but find out that you fight it to make all the rounds count, and achieve victory. Mental fortitude is everything.
Fantastic video. I start RASP 1 in less than a week. Great fuel for the coming weeks.
I have been thinking about this for months because the approval rate for special forces in Germany is about just 10% and the reason is as simple as that they were not prepared and didn't know in what they were getting into, most people probably think that they are good enough and that the initial training wont be so hard, but in reality it is the most hard one because you need to discard almost everyone to leave only the best, so unless you are one of the best soldiers you know, you will probably quit special forces training or get kicked out
while i may not be able to join the military or do any form of active service because of medical conditions these videos help me throughout my work day because of how terribe i feel day after day and it only feels like its getting worse each shift however my day is over before i know it and i can rest easy when i get home. because the only easy day was yesterday.
I love this channel. I've never been in the military, but learn so much to apply to regular life here.
I wanted to be SF the first time I was in, but when I came back in after 9/11, I got a chance to go PSYOP, and I learned that, while it wasn't "door-kicker" cool, it fit me better. I'm not the biggest guy, I'm tough, mentally and physically, just not that strong and athletic (at least on par with other operators). No amount of exercise was going to make me what I'm not. I also have a sense of humor and don't take anything seriously. Not the best mindset for someone who has six other guys relying on them. PSYOP allowed me to be a part of that world, just not in a way where I was a danger or an embarrassment to them or me. Besides, I can't kick doors in as a civilian, but I can screw with people's minds all I want in the real world.
My aim is to serve as a Clearance Diver in the Australian Navy. I am a year off graduating school and am currrently working on improving my running as it is my main weakness. If anyone has any suggestions or advice I would love to hear it.
Easy and long, run triple the amount you want to master. And do sometimes a speed session, of intervals of 2 to 10 minutes
Good luck
I can only speak from American army experience, but running in any sof unit is a huge thing. Like one of the main things. for us we had the standard 2 mile for pt tests, but we also had additional standards like a timed 4 mile every couple of months, running wearing pro masks, running in full kit etc. just a lot of running. And apart from physical standards and tests, the training just requires it a lot as well to qualify on different tasks to become fully mission qualified (FMQ)
Increase your training by 10% a week so you don’t get injured when you start running
Hey Lachlan, pretty much mix of interval training, fartlek training and long distance each week, probably focusing on the first two. Make sure all that shit is up to BFA standard or what ever the Australian Navy and overachieve since you're doing clearance diver.
Could always find a trainer that specialises in the adf fitness standard if you cant figure with the runs.
You'll also might meet some of my mate whom are fellow sailors too, they'll be happy to have you as a fellow man.
I am waiting for my medical test and PFA for ADF Reserves Infantry.
What's the dropout percentage vs the kicked out percentage? Do more people choose to dropout than people that get kicked out?
I can’t give you exact statistics but I do know a lot more people who quit than we’re kicked out, I know of one person who said they got kicked out due to discipline but in reality they DOR’d (Dropped On Request) 3 days into BRC (Basic Reconnaissance Course)
@@DaltonSmith Thanks for the info. Ahh so they ask you to drop out, but you can still refuse? I assume injury means instant kickout?
@@Jim58223 injury is definitely one of the things that can get you easily disqualified, but you can retry. I have never heard of anyone being asked to quit, I do know a lot of people who have quit though. I do know of somebody who was trying to be a SARC (Corpsman for recon) who did get dropped from the course though.
I assume the whole thing is designed to make you want to quit if you're the type of person that shouldn't be there. probably not a lot of need to make anyone quit. but I'm just a civilian
New intro music? Niiiice!!!
Also, great video!
“Do what you want to do, not be what you want to be.” I’ve thought about going SFAS in the past but I’ve since re-evaluated my priorities and am looking at WOFT or CID instead as those would be things I’d rather be doing on a day to day basis. I graduated 11B OSUT with no issues so I know I’m capable of taking it to the next level if I put my mind to it and train for it but I know my skills and abilities would better served to the military and the country if I find the niche that’s right for me instead of trying to be someone I’m not just to impress other people.
It's better to be prepared and be in excellent physical condition and have developed the endurance to be able to make a through the training.
You are on target just got to add the family seperation is a real problem too
Going to Soar for selections in a couple months appreciate the vid.
5:40 so basically when you choose the profession you also chose the lifestyle so don't be naiveté about it. That's the realization of it all 💪👍💪
This is one of your best videos. Thank you
" To do what you want to do and not be what you want to be "
“A lot of guys want to be navy seals until they go for that first swim in ice cold water at night”
Me: yeah polar plunges are cold…
“A lot of people want to marine raiders …”
Me: I mean that’s pretty cool tho…
“A lot of people want to be PJ’s”
Me: yeah carrying a guy 2 clicks that might be bleeding all over… hard but pretty badass
“A lot of guys want to be green berets until they realize they’ll be fighting on the front lines of freedom the rest of their lives…”
Me: *instant freedom boner* god I hope so…
what branch are you in?
Currently National guard. Looking to change over to active duty soon
Day 1 one of the cadre said you won’t make it to day 3 after that every time I got down I thought about that and it just fueled me to drive on.
Not wanting to take orders is a big reason, many want to join because they want to be heros, but those heros has to listen.
That was very helpful and eye opening. Thank you for everything, Sir!
The dislikes are from the people that gave up
I went to BUD/S. I had a great time, I recommend you train for ocean swims and intense water survival situations. It's 100% accomplishable and 100% a challenge.
What about sharks and crocodiles? Wouldn't it be safer to just swim in a huge deep pool
@@gaythugsmatter7029 You’re more likely to die from a boat on your head
@@ThisIsQuixoticHD yeah even more of a reason to train is a specific pool.
@@gaythugsmatter7029 I meant a boat pt, not an actual boat
@@ThisIsQuixoticHD i heard on the jocko podcast that they don't do that at buds anymore
That was a good intro thank you for a new topic sir
I feel like the only thing that would be really challenging for me going into the Marines is swimming
Im 14 and always wanted to join the special forces until 2 months ago i realised that if in going to continue to sit down on my ahh and not do sht i wasent going to make it now i work out every day and doing things im not comfortable with and building a tough mind
Thank you for all information triste help me a lot
Depends on the context and situation.
I want to join the army and go special forces through 18X. But I am still weighting that choice, because I have a semester left of community college and could either transfer or enlist. I don’t know what to do. I am at a crossroads.
Good videos always
I got a interview for military police officer position army
how to overcome the piled up failures that made way for mission to be unsuccessful ? how to get back to fighting for the life's purpose after great setbacks ?
please make a video on this , thanks
This reminds me chris Kyle he was growing in a ranch cowboy for real
Great content
Thank you for sharing
It was helpful to hear this, I'm training and going to try enlisting at a pararescue men, I'm kinda overweight but I'm really dedicating myself to bulk up and lose weight and I'm hoping I'll be able to get in next year
At 58 I would probably more get medical out. In my 20's no way would I have quit.
Can you do a video on why people are kicked out of special operations training?
I am not American, however, I may one day go to Ranger School, SFQC or BUD/s depending on the branch of the SAF I go to, whether I am a commando or navy frogmen. I think if you really want it, you will do it
You from Denmark? Your Special Operations are on another level ha
I LIKE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THIS AINT HOLLYWOOD
My moto was "quit tomorrow" and then rinse and repeat.
Wow that's amazing video
Space force is the hardest branch of all ,you know how long it takes to be a Jedi ,u start as a kid an turn master about 35 ,
I’ve never quit a thing that I haven’t started!
4:10 Anyone else remember that from oversimplified?
I studied life before 1 year..when i took the decision to succeed i deal with a god something and i said that matter what i will never give..i will give up only when i die..i don't give a damn when it hurts ..i love suffering, because this is the only i can find who i am ..there is no option like this..i cant even think about about it ..i would regret that day for my entire life wanting to suicide my self just for that moment..but im different, im not like others. I want leave my mark in this world being a lover , a fighter and a navy seal diver ..thats my goal and my will
If you want it... embrace the challenge. The hardest part of most things is the last 10%... or closing the deal. Don't do 90% of tbe work and give up when there's only 10% left to the finish line. Unlike tv and the movies where everyone is equal, everything is fair, and there's participation trophies for everyone... in real life there are actual winners and losers, and you have to motivated to be a winner (and spoiler, life isn't fair, get over it).
I look at my life now and I can’t believe how used to being a pussy I am. Your videos are the just the wake-up call I need to get at it. Thank you!
Impossible isn’t possible, it means Im possible!
i DID ARMY BOOT , A FOOT BALL INJURY AND DID OKAY NEVER GAVE UP . I THINK MY LEG WOULD FALL APART GOING AIRBORNE,
I REMEMBER SEEING A GUY HIS KNEE FELL APART, HE WAS IN A LOT OF PAIN SCREAMING ,IT FINISHED HIM IN THE ARMY.
I wanted to join special force unit badly, I really wanted, today I want, still I will find some where to train, drills, etc
No I would not
I'm currently I'm the army but thinking about transferring to the royal marines my only worry is I struggle with my learning but since joining the army and finishing my first tour in June. I feel like I have gained a good mindset so with my military experience and my focus on my fitness such as swimming as I am a terrible swimmer. Marine history and navigation I feel like I could pass-out through training.
no .. only 1 foot and 8 fingers , and ill GO UNTIL MY HEART STOPS BEATING !!!
I will continue until I find somewhere to train me
Looking at that chess position---I think the rule is Queen on her own color starting out....:)
Now I'm 34 years old, single, looking forward to train gun position and gun walk, tactical training, I want to focus on gun walk like tiger guerilla walk and others
Always been told 90% mental, 10% physical. Age and Cigarettes got me licked 34 smoked for 20 years I might run a block before killing over lol. Respect to the Men and Women who can and have made the selection.
I think I would be kicked out special operation. I'm not enough physically fit for it.
For military basic training I think I could endure it.
I'm amatuer kickboxer and substitute soldier in air defense unit, I want to train special force
Why do some soldiers tape their buttstock, is it to always have it in an adjustable position?
If your joints supports one, one can do anything
I feel like I can do this but I don’t know how to swim 😭😭😭
I would like to ask any special forces operators, of all the people that started the training program, how many were kicked out vs. how many walked out?
Family.
Ah I got a question. What happens when you get dropped?
This is why you should definitely spend a few years in your MOS before attempting to join the SOCOM community, as you’ll gain experience but also you’ll have a chance to get specialty training that help you along your way to become a SOF Operator. For example 50% of people don’t make it into a infantry Recce platoon, it’s challenging and difficult. It will help give you an idea of just how much harder SOF selection would be if you’re having trouble joining a Recce platoon and if you make it then you’ll have an upper hand compared to your own battle Buddies trying out for SOF.
One day at a Time. Just get to the next meal. And the next. And the next.
Sir I wanted to know do federal tactical teams such as BORTAC FBI HRT and others undergo thrpugh SERE school too? I think they should
People also quit because they're not motivated and don't have an actual purpose for being there , if you're going spec ops you need a purpose in my opinion
No i will not quite
I'll make or or die. Not a figure of speech. I'll either pass, or pass away.
No matter what mental state, not everyone has the same physical capabilities though, often it’s genetic based.
I would never start
I served in the USN in the 70s. Went to boot camp in Orlando, FLA. Don't laugh. If the temps were high and the black flag was flying strenuous exercise was forbidden. One afternoon I had gotten a pass to go to the commissary for toothpaste. I did that a lot. I was running along when I was stopped by an NCO. He asked why was I running with a black flag flying. I answered I'm from GA and I don't like cold weather. He looked at me confused and just said "carry on recruit". I'm much older these days but I still test myself daily.
I wanna write this because I wanna see what you think about this, as a kid I never did any hard work, I was fat, lazy, didn’t want to train, immature, eating like garbage. Today after high school I am a slightly different person. The difference is that I box or boxed, run miles and train hard but nothing compared to special ops and on my free time I play video games or fuck around mostly staying in the house. Because of my weak of a past I want to be a Ranger and change even more.
Honestly, it's hard to change as a kid/teen if you grew up without any sort of guidance (in my case). If you want something, you're going to have to work hard for it, motivate yourself & find your reason why you have to push yourself
@@JD-jc5hg Yes and I believe I’m on that path already and I feel like I’m making progress but some days my old self comes back in a way and I start to be lazy but I realize what I want and I get my ass up.
@@SlavicRatnik That's good, I'm rooting for you that you can make it possible :)
been a while since I went to green platoon but somebody I was talking to said a lot of sof selection courses got rid of the whole "ringing the bell" to quit because it was too demeaning to the people quitting or something. I really hope that isn't true
Green platoon doesn’t have the bell anymore. They make it hard to quit, too. I know a guy that got an article for refusing the training he signed up for
@@spencerbennett7540 Jesus. glad I'm out. talk about pushing people through who don't deserve to be there. Very glad I was in before that. only ever saw one guy make it through who wasn't regiment material and he got booted quick. Took effective fire and instead of firing back he hid behind his gun like a child
@@carsonkouts yeah unfortunately the program has changed quite a bit since then. Seen a lot of good soldiers get dropped for silly things before class, and a lot of subpar ones easily get through EGP. Hopefully regiment straightens them all out.
@@spencerbennett7540 that's crazy. times be changing. I got out shortly after they started putting females through en mass and tried sticking them into barracks alongside the males. I can only imagine how that's turned out