I'm Day 6 into your 30 day Challenge BlitzDG. I'm going to work some of these points into yours. :) I'm a newish player (15 full rounds maybe) and doing it for a Combat Veteran Rec group I started. I'm using yours and this as my foundation skill. :) Thanks Nick for a different explanation of this, it goes really well with what blitz says. I appreciate your work.
This is one of the best videos on disc golf form I’ve seen. This reminds me of good powerlifting form videos. It’s nice to see you go through the details of a general overview of how things should work and specific cases on when it needs done. Excellent video!
Oh thank you. I’m a somewhat fit 57 & new to disc golf (5 months). I am so hooked on this sport. You explained it perfectly for me so I subbed. Best I’ve seen yet.
Wow! This is all amazingly close to what I have recently discovered working of my own form, mostly nose angle/swing plane. This feeling of tension has significantly improved my TechDisc stats, both speed and nose angle. Great rundown!
An absolute Masterclass! I geeked out on the backhand form and the things you mention here took me from 375ft. to 500ft+. Especially thoracic spine mobility, rear hip IR to improve coil tension (X-Factor Stretch), and rotational stability & strength. Sure, there are nuances to add like staying behind the brace (crumple zone), nose angle, etc. but this is the meat and potatoes of an efficient backhand.
Convinced me to sign up for your coaching soon! I’m also a PT if you ever need consult from an injury perspective since that came up a few times in this video
They are good for general strength and power development and can sort of be a hybrid of what a deadlift and plyo jump would provide for us, but I'd still recommend getting some rotational core work and shoulder work in the mix too 👍
First, great vid. Lol Second. So, on an old Ezra A. Video about the backhand from years ago, someone recently commented this year something about "not using your throwing arm at all, its all about body rotation" and Ezra said "100%." In ur practice throws you state you "pull the disc in" Do we use our throwing arm or not?! Lmao ❤
thank you! For the throwing arm, it feels different for everyone so for Ezra it likely feels like he isn't actively using his arm much, but for some others (myself included), the shoulder and arm will feel very active 👍 so it's worth experimenting with.
You 100% use your throwing arm muscles. Having a "loose arm" is just a mental cue that some people find useful, generally when their timing is off and they're pulling too early or they're too tight and not achieving full stretch on the reach back, but the reality is that the throwing arm is very much active during the throw. The reality is that you must actively use your shoulder to keep your elbow on the throwing plane and you must actively use almost all of the arm muscles to make the fast twitch movement of pulling the disc across your body. If your pull isn't using an active arm the disc won't reach your armpit for that "deep pocket" form and you're likely to have the disc trail behind your body, and possibly even collide with it when you throw. This robs an otherwise good form of a surprising amount of release velocity. Definitely use the arm, but understand you need full extension on the reach back, disc away from body, and disc pulled in right and forward on plane actively.
Fantastic subject, delivery, and relevant drills! Question about the pelvis/shoulder girdle positioning for all throws- should our effort be to mimic the alignment in these drills? As in, should we aim to keep the pelvis in its “perpendicular” position (relative to target) while maximizing the shoulder girdle angle?
Glad to hear it! You are correct about the pelvis, in an ideal world we would keep it somewhat static during the shoulder coil, but there will be some inevitable small bits of rearward rotation that happen for most folks.
What are your thoughts on breathing? I can coil more if I have no air in my lungs. Do my lungs act as balloons where as I should have a deep breath when I throw and exhale at my release like most boxers or martial artists do? I’m just curious how you breathe or if I should even be thinking about it when I throw
Good question, there will be a lot of interplay between the intercostal muscles of the ribcage (which stretch out when lungs expand and also have to stretch for trunk rotation) and the diaphragm-TVA-pelvic floor muscle combo down lower. I'd generally recommend being in a state of somewhat low chest expansion, but you can have more pressure in your lower abdomen (diaphragmatic breathing) if you want. I'd experiment with what feels the most comfortable and powerful.
This video came at the perfect time for me, as i was looking at from and wondering about this exaxt thing! I have 2 questions, though. The first is that as i have done this, my off (left) leg tends to swing behind me instead of in the front, especially on x-step throws. Is that a balance thing? Second, I found in doing this that I sometimes get a sharp pain in my right hip when I externally rotate it and put weight on it. Any ideas for what that is caused by? Thanks, and keep up the great work! This is the kinda stuff that will make disc golf a mainstream sport - scientific, specific explainations that people can understand.
@@andycastner8918 glad to hear it! For the leg swing, if you are talking about after the brace (while pulling through), it’s ok and even a good thing if it swings behind the butt. If it’s happening during your approach, you’ll want to not drift as far to the left side of the teepad during your final step (can imagine you are walking up slightly rightward so the target is your 11 o clock). For the pain in the right hip, there’s no way for me to know for sure without doing in-depth form analysis but I’d make sure you have a clean heel pivot and aren’t forcing your body into any uncomfortable positions when you plant.
@NickKrush.DGandFit thanks for the advice! After watching and applying, i have been able to add 3mph and ~100 rpm to my throw already! Also side plank workout is killer
If the pain is inside the hip joint, get an MRI. Usually a sharp pain there is a sign of degeneration. Learn forehands so that you use the right hip less often as a brace.
😂no, just busy at the field that day with some youngsters group type of gathering on one side and a cricket game on the other side. Had to throw between everyone which was a bit sketchy
FIRST. Excellently done imo. I'll be linking this all over the place instead of explaining!
@@BlitzDG let’s gooo
And thank you btw!
I'm Day 6 into your 30 day Challenge BlitzDG. I'm going to work some of these points into yours. :) I'm a newish player (15 full rounds maybe) and doing it for a Combat Veteran Rec group I started. I'm using yours and this as my foundation skill. :) Thanks Nick for a different explanation of this, it goes really well with what blitz says. I appreciate your work.
@@tattoodsamurai I'm a combat veteran myself brother. Good luck!
Same
This is one of the best videos on disc golf form I’ve seen. This reminds me of good powerlifting form videos. It’s nice to see you go through the details of a general overview of how things should work and specific cases on when it needs done. Excellent video!
well thank you for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙂
I have thrown over 400 feet for the first time thanks to your advice. Thank you very much for all the help and content
Oh thank you. I’m a somewhat fit 57 & new to disc golf (5 months). I am so hooked on this sport. You explained it perfectly for me so I subbed. Best I’ve seen yet.
thank you for stopping by and for the sub!
Wow! This is all amazingly close to what I have recently discovered working of my own form, mostly nose angle/swing plane. This feeling of tension has significantly improved my TechDisc stats, both speed and nose angle. Great rundown!
You’re really taking dg tutorials to the next level. Thank you!
Thank you, that's a big compliment for me!
An absolute Masterclass! I geeked out on the backhand form and the things you mention here took me from 375ft. to 500ft+. Especially thoracic spine mobility, rear hip IR to improve coil tension (X-Factor Stretch), and rotational stability & strength. Sure, there are nuances to add like staying behind the brace (crumple zone), nose angle, etc. but this is the meat and potatoes of an efficient backhand.
That's awesome, I'm super pumped about how well it worked out for you man and nice job on getting out there and executing, 100+ft gains is beastly!
Keep the 🔥💪🔥 coming!!! Excellent as always brother! Thank you for all the time and energy you put into your content! 🤙
will do, and thanks for the continued support!
This is top tier content! Looking forward to testing out some of these drills!
💪 have fun and best of luck!
Another excellent video Nick.
thanks brother!
Convinced me to sign up for your coaching soon! I’m also a PT if you ever need consult from an injury perspective since that came up a few times in this video
That's great to hear and thank you for offering that! We'll be in touch soon over email 🙂
It might be a lot for some but I enjoyed every section. That intro got me lowkey pumped to get jacked and throw some plastic
heck yeah man 👍
This video got me excited to grind some form work! Thank you
that's great to hear!
Man, you know how to drop videos at the right time 😅
@@Izz.yG24 haha glad to hear that! Best of luck with the drills
Awesome stuff yet again. Do you feel kettlebell swings are an adequate workout for the DG throw?
They are good for general strength and power development and can sort of be a hybrid of what a deadlift and plyo jump would provide for us, but I'd still recommend getting some rotational core work and shoulder work in the mix too 👍
First, great vid. Lol
Second. So, on an old Ezra A. Video about the backhand from years ago, someone recently commented this year something about "not using your throwing arm at all, its all about body rotation" and Ezra said "100%." In ur practice throws you state you "pull the disc in"
Do we use our throwing arm or not?! Lmao ❤
thank you! For the throwing arm, it feels different for everyone so for Ezra it likely feels like he isn't actively using his arm much, but for some others (myself included), the shoulder and arm will feel very active 👍 so it's worth experimenting with.
You 100% use your throwing arm muscles. Having a "loose arm" is just a mental cue that some people find useful, generally when their timing is off and they're pulling too early or they're too tight and not achieving full stretch on the reach back, but the reality is that the throwing arm is very much active during the throw.
The reality is that you must actively use your shoulder to keep your elbow on the throwing plane and you must actively use almost all of the arm muscles to make the fast twitch movement of pulling the disc across your body. If your pull isn't using an active arm the disc won't reach your armpit for that "deep pocket" form and you're likely to have the disc trail behind your body, and possibly even collide with it when you throw. This robs an otherwise good form of a surprising amount of release velocity. Definitely use the arm, but understand you need full extension on the reach back, disc away from body, and disc pulled in right and forward on plane actively.
Great stuff 😀👍
Fantastic subject, delivery, and relevant drills! Question about the pelvis/shoulder girdle positioning for all throws- should our effort be to mimic the alignment in these drills? As in, should we aim to keep the pelvis in its “perpendicular” position (relative to target) while maximizing the shoulder girdle angle?
Glad to hear it! You are correct about the pelvis, in an ideal world we would keep it somewhat static during the shoulder coil, but there will be some inevitable small bits of rearward rotation that happen for most folks.
What are your thoughts on breathing? I can coil more if I have no air in my lungs. Do my lungs act as balloons where as I should have a deep breath when I throw and exhale at my release like most boxers or martial artists do? I’m just curious how you breathe or if I should even be thinking about it when I throw
Good question, there will be a lot of interplay between the intercostal muscles of the ribcage (which stretch out when lungs expand and also have to stretch for trunk rotation) and the diaphragm-TVA-pelvic floor muscle combo down lower.
I'd generally recommend being in a state of somewhat low chest expansion, but you can have more pressure in your lower abdomen (diaphragmatic breathing) if you want. I'd experiment with what feels the most comfortable and powerful.
@ ok thanks!
@@waynereynolds7323 👍 you're welcome!
Are you thinking of the brace/push back before you start the pull threw if that makes sense
For me it feels like the brace and push happens at the same time as the pullthrough 👍
@NickKrush.DGandFit ok thanks for the reply
@@tylerorange6856 👍you're welcome!
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Thank you!
my pleasure!
This video came at the perfect time for me, as i was looking at from and wondering about this exaxt thing! I have 2 questions, though. The first is that as i have done this, my off (left) leg tends to swing behind me instead of in the front, especially on x-step throws. Is that a balance thing? Second, I found in doing this that I sometimes get a sharp pain in my right hip when I externally rotate it and put weight on it. Any ideas for what that is caused by?
Thanks, and keep up the great work! This is the kinda stuff that will make disc golf a mainstream sport - scientific, specific explainations that people can understand.
@@andycastner8918 glad to hear it!
For the leg swing, if you are talking about after the brace (while pulling through), it’s ok and even a good thing if it swings behind the butt. If it’s happening during your approach, you’ll want to not drift as far to the left side of the teepad during your final step (can imagine you are walking up slightly rightward so the target is your 11 o clock).
For the pain in the right hip, there’s no way for me to know for sure without doing in-depth form analysis but I’d make sure you have a clean heel pivot and aren’t forcing your body into any uncomfortable positions when you plant.
@NickKrush.DGandFit thanks for the advice! After watching and applying, i have been able to add 3mph and ~100 rpm to my throw already! Also side plank workout is killer
@@andycastner8918 that's amazing progress :D keep up the good work man
If the pain is inside the hip joint, get an MRI. Usually a sharp pain there is a sign of degeneration.
Learn forehands so that you use the right hip less often as a brace.
Thank you. For the viewers unfamiliar with the curl up, prepare to get humbled.
you're welcome, and so true that exercise is surprisingly difficult when executed correctly lol
Are you at a family reunion?
great video btw, really enjoyed it.
😂no, just busy at the field that day with some youngsters group type of gathering on one side and a cricket game on the other side. Had to throw between everyone which was a bit sketchy
I'm on it 🫡
let's gooo :D