@@rosannecole4992 the other family members stopped doing the show...... because of all the hate..... now everyone is hating on them. Pretty soon they'll quit too cause of people like you!
I honestly, don't think Caryn is a true match for Matt. She shouldn't of gotten involved in the family business/ transactions. Matt knows he's wrong for allowing Caryn to sit in on the meetings with his sons.It's already awkward enough that she was the pumpkin season manager and then became Matt's girlfriend. Very suspicious 👀 You can't blame the immediate family for feeling a certain way about Caryn.
Why oh why did he get involved with his employee... Thank goodness Karen can't cry 'sexual harassment in the workplace' since we all see their relationship.
And all may have serious health issues. The little boy already had leg surgery and it didnt seem to help at all so far. The girl has eye issues and could have lifelong problems. Well at least lazy Tori is home to take care of them when ahea not plopping one on a rock with rushing water and telling him if he falls in she wont rescue him. Then she leaves the little girl on a counter and turns her back. I have watched this "mother" taking care of these kids. The best thing she could do is to get a job and hire someone to take care of the kids. That wayat least they would be safe.
Wow Tori said “the kids loveD them”. Past tense describing the kids Loved Matt and Caryn. How sad. Now they don’t get to love them anymore? they loved them because they were amazing grandparents. Let them still be amazing grandparents. Why should your 3 kids have to miss out on that because everyone’s pride is hurt. Such a shame for the kids 😢
No matter what you reap what you sow.Tori was disrespectful to Amy with her lack of support for her but jumped on the bandwagon with Karen who was an employee and is not even engaged or married to Matt.She is not a grandmother in any sense she is just Matt’s girlfriend so I don’t know why she is given so much importance,and she knows it and that’s why she is leaving the show.
That's what spoiled and entitled brats do! They only think of themselves. They'll deliberately choose to hurt their own kid's JUST to hurt the ones they are angry with!
@@kalyco6211 Not the entire story. MATT convinced Amy to sell him the 30 acres and house at BELOW market value at 600k, with the understanding he would pass that savings on to his kids when they were ready to buy....the legacy he kept preaching. BUT the first thing he did was cut the land in HALF to 16 acres but did not cut the price tag in half, but instead he quadrupled the price to 4 million. He tried to screw over his kids...half the land for that much money? Jeremy felt angry over it and walked out. Jermey walking away, Zach stepped up to make an offer. Matt did the same thing. THIS is why they are mad, and Caryn stuck her nose in and got snotty and Tori took offense to how Caryn spoke to her man....a cardinal sin. Now Matt has no relationship with Jeremy or his kids either....Matt was a jerk for that and you reap what you sow.
@@gerryhatrick6678 Google that information Gerry. There was also another huge money transactions between matt and amy for the land. Zach couldn't have afforded to take over that farm at even half cost regardless.
@@gerryhatrick6678 *WHERE AND WHEN DID YOU INVENT THIS CRAZY ASS STORY? THE FARM WAS SOLD SEPARATELY THAN THE HOUSE. TOTAL WAS 1.7 MILLION. SHE DIDNT GIVE ANY BARGAIN TO ANYONE. PLUS SHE DIDNT EVEN THE KIDS 1 ACRE TO BUILD A HOUSE* GREEDY AMYY ROLOFF
@@gerryhatrick6678agreed and with land and the farm being that precious to all of them why wouldn't you want your son to keep tradition and raise his babies there and keep everything in the family for generations to come! Everything isn't always money money money.
Caryn has a way of controlling Matt without Matt realizing it. Very subtle. Not to say Matt isn't his own person and does what he wants. Just that Caryn knows how to get him to want what she wants.
@@amandaliberty3866 Caryn has tons of money, she doesn't need a matt's money. She would have wanted that house from day 1 and she didn't want it or live there.
I'm still not sure how not getting the farm is a reason to not be OK with one's father, my parents have money and I may or may not inherit it, they've told me I will but frankly if they want to spend it on a condo in Hawaii so be it it's their money. I get they don't want the drama but they are responsible for it.
Because it's about growing up on a farm you consider home and want your family to be a part of, it's not about inheriting mommy and daddy's money. Zach made an offer when Matt decided to sell it. Of course Matt doesn't have to give it to him but it would be the right thing to do.
Matt talked nonstop about “the legacy” from this farm, and had put his kids in a place of needing to get his approval over it. Amy and Matt talked about wanting to keep it for the family, and Amy sold her half to Matt under the premise that Matt would leave it to the kids - a farm they both built up. And now he’s going back on everything he pretended to stand for - it like he didn’t know his dad at all.
First Matt has a right to do what ever he wants with his money and property. ..but consequences. Also, I am only speculating. Looking in from the outside, there are two issues. First the farm...and it's not about the money. I believe it is about how Matt treated both boys. Zach has said his whole life the one constant about his future was the "The Legacy of the farm. " Season after season I heard Matt say he was "building a legacy "to pass on to his children. For Matt in the end.....the "Legacy" was not the most important thing to him. I will quote Matt, "This was business, That's what Zach did not understand. It was just business" For Zach and Jeremy it was not business. Zach finally understood where Matt's priorities were when the price Matt offered to sell Zach the farm was more than he could ever afford....it was like torture to Zach and intentionally hurtful. 2nd issue; Caryn...at the time she was Matt's girl friend. Not fiancé, Things could be awkward at times, but the kids were nice to Caryn. In hindsight I am not sure how much they trusted her. Then Caryn got involved in sale of the farm. "business" Sharing in a confessional that she had no idea what Zach and tori were so upset about, that neither she or Matt had done anything wrong so she had no way to "fix" things. Zach and Tori believe Caryn should have stayed out of it...she was not family. I also think there is more hard feelings about Caryn that have not been made public.
Completely agree with Tori’s last line 👍🏽 … No reason to bring toxic relationships around your precious babies and lives!! Stay healthy and happy and positive!!
Tori needs to let this go.. There's Grandchildren involved here an she's ripping the relationship apart further an further.... The 3 children are the 1s that will lose out.. If the sale went through Zach would have ran it in the ground in no time anyway... His Father did him a favor.... Nothing is free..
It is only toxic because of Zack. His dad and Karen don't have bad things to say. They miss the grandkids. Zack is cheating his kids out of grandparents just because he didn't get his way.
Shes trashing her father in law constantly so shes the one with a toxic relationship. Zack and Tori should get a blue ribbon for pulling off living with a family of 5 who hold no jobs. Lazy and living off the show. They are looking for their own show so they dont ever have to work again.
I would say these two have nursed this grudge to the point of being cruel. Zack needs to get a job so that he has less time to focus on forcing his dad into submission by withholding the grandkids. And don't say the show is Zach's job. Matt was on the show too, and still managed to work his butt off. It doesn't take two to watch the kids. Stay at home parents do it every single day.
@@FredZiffel-m9v Yes she does. Plus. she was ALWAYS so negative about all of Matt's projects, but those projects she hated so much brought her a pretty penny after the divorce. She just never ever had anything positive to say about Matt and what he did try to make their lives better.
@@TheresaTalmage They are not toxic. Good grief. Families disagree on things all the time. This was a disagreement and those two pouty child adults need to grow up. It's time to get past this disagreement. Things in life don't always go the way we want them to. So what? That's life. Move on. Matt gave those kids a good life.
I agree 100 percent. Amy sold to Matt for money, now Matt wants to do the same. Zach was a lazy kid and adult, he never did much around the farm. He has no plan. He hasn’t ever even had a job before! All he’s ever done is the show to make money and rely on his parents. Amy was always complaining about Matt having ideas. Matt was the only hard worker and creative person. Amy is so boring, she has a RUclips channel where she is trying to make money making mediocre recipes. Matt was the brains and ambition behind it all.
You can never have to many people who love you. Personally I wouldn't deny my children the love of their grandparents. I would just send them over with other family members. I might grind my teeth the whole time but that's what I PERSONALLY would do. love the show. I except that others do things differently and I do not judge!
True. But Caryn is not a grandparent to them. That's something Matt should have thought of. You screw around on your wife, there are consequences. And honestly, Caryn is a bitch.
You need to let it go at some point. Life is way too short to continually let this dominate Your daily dialogue. Let’s move on. We all have family issues. Watching you feud is not good entertainment, and remember your little boy is very smart and hears every word you’re saying.
I hate to say this...but Matt is right about his kids thinking their entitled to this farm and the land. He mentioned in last week's episode between him and Amy that the kids were horrible with help taking care of their home and land. The kids would drink soda and just throw cans and trash all over the property. He mentioned how the kids would break windows all over the property. Basically, just how irresponsible and spoiled they were. Amy said Matt was just as responsible as she was. Matt would buy 4 wheelers and whatever the kids wanted. I feel Matt was being a great parent(spoiling them...too). He was doing what most parents would do for their kiddos, IF they could afford it. Where they (Amy and Matt) messed up was explaining to their kids...that they should appreciate and be respectful to their home and land. And that they are very fortunate to live and have such things. AND...their home property is also a business. And that they need to help keep the property looking clean. Matt, also didn't want to sell his sons the property because they couldn't keep up with the needed repairs. He ultimately would have to do the repairs himself... whilst they get to enjoy the nice property. In other words, Matt should of kept the property for himself...if he's doing ALL the work. I understand where Matt's coming from. Amy on the other hand is just being a protective mom. Who's coddling her kids. She keeps alot of shit stirred up, in my opinion. Her husband Chris wants to do the right thing BUT he's now married to Amy. This is why Amy hates Chris' and Matt's relationship. The whole show is a mess right now. However, I still love LPBW. I'm a diehard fan since the very beginning.
I completely agree! I believe those boys expected the farm to be handed to them like everything was when they were little… They come off as very entitled…
I disagree with you all lol he worked those kids all thier lives. They were kids. How many of you were perfect at that age? Matt asked wayyyyy above what Amy sold her portion for thinking he would do the same for his kids. They didn't want it for nothing. They worked. Hard. Then Matt asks double. Shameful of Matt and Karen.
Nonsense that Matt is now spewing to try and make his kids look bad. He's glowed for years about the work Zach has done on the farm and how he is pushing the kids to take over yet when they won't pay nearly double what he paid their Mom for the same property a mere year or so before, suddenly the kids are unfit to take over....
Why was Caryn even sitting in on that negotiation meeting in the first place? These negotiations should have been between Matt and his son's. And if Matt felt that the boys weren't going to run the property properly he should have told them that he wasn't even considering them as a buyers and I thought the point of having property and a legacy was to pass it on to your children and keep it going.
They shouldn't use the kids as a pawn to punish Matt, just because they didn't get to takeover the farm. Matt did most the maintenance there, and he's the owner. My mom never gave me an option to buy her houses when she was ready to sell, nor would I expect her to. Why do they feel so entitled to it? He needs to sell it for as much as he can get out of it because he's about due to retire and he deserves to have a nice life. He worked hard all his life. Zach needs to humble himself and go earn his own farm, if that's what he wants. Quit acting like a spoiled child.
I completely agree! Same with my parents home! My mom has willed it to my youngest brother out of 6 of siblings BECAUSE he sacrificed his life for 20 years to care for her and the property after our dad passed away. NONE of my siblings had any resentment or expectation to HER HOME! We are grateful and love our brother for his selflessness!
😂Sorry but I do not agree with you at all! Zach nor his brother should be labeled entitled like you did because each one of them tried to BUY the house that they where raised in which also included some acreage, the NEVER once asked that it should be given to them!!! However, Matt on the other hand had dollar signs flashing in front of his eyes and raised the price up so high that neither Zach or his brother could afford it! Even Amy’s husband who is a realtor said that he was very surprised at the price tag Matt has put on the house and property which ought to tell you something! Matt is a very shrewd businessman but your children are NOT strangers that just walked off the street asking to buy this home, THEY ARE FAMILY, your own flesh and blood!!! I would NEVER try to sell our son our home for the same price I would ask for Joe Blow on the street, NEVER!!! I would much rather have my own flesh and blood living right next to me instead a stranger whom I don’t know and Matt might just get his wish with someone buying this place with whom he won’t get along, which would serve him right for being so unreasonable and greedy!!! Matt’s sidekick Caryn doesn’t help in the matter, she was present at the meeting between Zack and Matt and she opened up her mouth saying things that she shouldn’t have because it is none of her business what goes on between Matt and his children! If she was smart, she would stay out of the family business but she wants to weasel her her way into the whole family dynamic for some reason! This women is NOT married to Matt and in the last episode that aired, she sort of let the cat out of the bag saying that Matt and her have been together for MANY YEARS! Hello, anyone paying attention to that, because It hasn’t been that many years since Matt and Amy got divorced! I still say that Caryn played a big factor in Matt and Amy splitting up, everything pointed to it and for Matt to play innocent and the “nice” guy is laughable‼️
@@rosetijerina2567 My issue is that Amy sold it to him and BELOW market value with the idea of passing the savings onto the kids when they were ready. She sold it for 600K....he cut the land in HALF, but did not HALF the price, but asked 4 million....THAT is the crux of that issue....he was all for legacy when he wanted to buy cheap from AMY but sure changed his tune, when he kept HALF the land and quadrupled the price tag. He did the same to Jeremy which is why he is not in Jeremy's life now either. You reap what you sow Matt.
Yal sure do forget how much fighting Matt had to do back in the day to get those boys to do anything and then he had to pay them! Also if you look back at all the damage the boys did to the structures a d then Amy did nothing!! Matt is not dead the farm is his to do what he csn to make money!! The boys shpuld have showed Matt by doing all the things Matt wanted, reliability, responsibility, and dedication! I love the show and the family but have been watching since first show, I'm on Matts side for the farm! Glad Amy is happy, she should never have sold her part to Matt in the first place!
@@MyButterfly60Amy was hypocritical because she sold her half to Matt for money, so she could move on. And then has her husband complain on her behalf in front of the camera that Matt wants to do the same. Those kids never showed initiative, at least not from what we saw on camera. As adults they came around once a year to help out. Not saying they would have still gotten the farm, but they are acting like they want it now.
Exactly. He was a lazy kid and always complaining, even as an adult he only showed up to help out a a couple times a year IF that. The kids are acting spoiled and petty.
So sick and tired of Tori, Zach and hell even Amy for that matter bitchin and moaning for months now about how Matt handled the sale of the farm. Amy you're married now so why are you still going in on Matt? Focus on you and Chris. Same for Tori and Zach. You bought a beautiful home for your family so live happily ever after already. Granted the farm has alot of sentimental value but at the end of the day it's only a house. Make your new home one your kids will create new memories just as the farm did for you all. Move on already.
TORI IS TOXIC, SHE IS THE REASON THE FAMILY IS SPLIT. AND AMY JUST AS TOXIC. THE MOTHER SHOULD BE MENDING THE FAMILY. MATT GAVE HER 1.7 MILLION. HE SET HER UP FOR LIFE!!
@@PostUp_Time The mother could have sold her part of the farm to the kids. But she knew she would get more money out of Matt. And she called him greedy.
I believe Zachary and Jeremy feel as entitled as they did as teenagers. Matt worked hard to give his children the childhood he dreamed of his dreams and he was successful.
Since they were born matt has told them they are getting the farm he bought it for family and for the boys to take over he instilled this growing up. So of course they feel entitled to it it was drilled into them from birth
@Kelsea Caesar I agree Matt encouraged the idea of at least Jeremy taking over the running of the farm because he did wish to have his children remain living on the farm and he dreamed of having grandchildren enjoy the farm. Matt is one of a kind and he is kind of annoying. Matt and Amy did not know each other very long before they married and it is probably amazing they stayed together as long as they did. The family was in danger of losing the farm when they decided to do the show which was something Amy resented. I think the older boys do want the farm but I am not sure either would be up for the task or happy doing all the work. The show brought a lot of revenue and opportunities. It is amazing it lasted so long. The show was in danger of being canceled after Matt's court case. Matt also had the stool company with Mike who passed away suddenly. Matt and Amy need to think about Molly and Jake. I hope they figure it out. I don't think the family fight makes for good entertainment. Amy has her faults too.
Zach and Tori need to get a job and stop with all this negative energy. Tori and her feud with Audrey has driven a wedge between Zach and Jeremy, now she is encouraging him to hold a grudge against his father. Tori was Molly's friend, and she has distant herself from her now it is Caryn's fault get rid of her who's next. Tori and Zach thought they could hang around until Matt just handed over everything to them which is not fair to the other siblings. The way they use those kids against Matt as pawns is despicable Tori is the bigger problem in my opinion.
Obviously you didn’t watch last season. The thing with Caryn isn’t new this is due to the falling out last season. And Zach and tori never thought anything was getting handed to them. Matt said for the entire existence of the show that he wanted to hand the farm down as a legacy to his kids.
ShawnieBee Well said ' Both Tori and Zack want everything handed to them and are causing friction with family members..Tori and Zack need to get regular jobs instead of living off the cameras !!!
When Matt talked about legacy of the farm him and Amy were still married then .Everything changed when they got divorced.Matt has said numerous times that he wanted to be fair to all four kids . He wanted zack and Jeremy to run it together but they didn’t want that .The farm is what it is because of Matt he worked for years on that place .Amy always called him a dreamer .Jeremy actually loved farm work and I believe he would have done well but zack doesn’t take the initiative like Jeremy.I think using the grandkids as a pawn is horrible . The kids love them . Amy could have given her part to her kids but she didn’t .She could have even sold it to them with a family discount.Everybody says caryn is the problem she might be who knows but tori is a big problem too .
They both act like brats. They expected to just be handed over that farm. Nevermind that there are two other siblings that are part of that family. They get on their TV program and bash their Dad who bought that farm and wants to benefit from it to live the rest of his life. The two of them feel entitled for everything. My question is, what have Tori's parents given them?? I think that they both feel like they are the only ones entitled to something that never earned.
I think that they are being petty and resentful. How do you cut your family out in a second when things don't go well? They are acting like children and it's going to hurt the children because of the parents pettiness.
Caryn has made mistakes and she is not a perfect person, but Zach and Tori are such an ungrateful . They like it or know Caryn adores their kids and has been specially amazing with Jackson , she has taken care of him with patience and love .
Ungrateful Tori and Zach tend to forget that Caryn and Matt were filmed by TLC cameras changing Lilah's diaper when Tori went to hospital for the birth of the 3rd child. All I saw was much love and caring for the child by Matt and Caryn. What many people do not realize is that Tori in a covert manner has effectively add logs of timber to the blazing fire between Matt and his sons. She's very devious and overtly rude towards Matt while her low IQ husband allows her to carry out her evil intentions. But, there again, does anyone really know why Tori got married to Matt? Was it love for a severely deformed and undereducated man or the possibility of being co-owner of the farm? I'm reminded of a classic Shakespeare quotation, "Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. Such men are dangerous". Over to you, Mrs Tori Roloff.
I love Zach and Tori, but they should not hold the kids from Matt and Karen. It’s so petty and unfair. They’ve been wonderful to your kids and just because you didn’t get the farm, don’t do this. You are creating a problem out of nothing. Please get over it. You say you have moved on but you really haven’t.😢
I agree. And they weren’t even doing farm work or duties, like they didn’t hardly show up to do all the work and show initiative. Matt has a right to sell.
I don't agree with playing the victim card and using their kids as pawns. Let it go. Ok, the negotiation did not go as wanted/planned. But sooner or later, you gotta let the resentment go and not let it eat you up.
You can not tell people how to feel. People process hurt differently. For you to just tell him to get over it and move on, is to tell him to just let his feelings go because hers matter more. She should learn her place in this dynamic and then move on. He needs to take as much time as he needs to process this.
Jackson loved Cha Cha his term of endearment for Karyn. When they asked Jackson who they should invite to Lila’s birthday first person he said was Cha Cha. Because of the bitterness Zach and Tori hold they are keeping grandkids from those that love them and watched them a lot. Latest episode Tori says we’ll see what God has in store for us in coming year. Hypocrites. Religious people forgive. They need to leave the show like the rest of the kids and get real jobs.
I've been in a position with my inlaws similar to this. They treated us terrible. And cut us out of a business we starred. We let lots of money go for peace we didn't talk to them for a year and the business went under without us. After a year they reached out and we let bygones be bygones and are glad that's in the past. They have admitted faults and we have been able to move forward in a healthy relationship.
I've watched this show from the beginning and I find Tori and Zack to be hypocritical. Before the farm deal went south, they were very much "Team Matt and Caryn." When they didn't get their way, they cut them out of their lives. This season, Zack and Tori are constructing almost another house on their property to serve as a work space so Zack can learn to "tinker" on his property. They're grownups now so they need to be on their own and have a relationship with their parents. Life changes very quickly; Matt made decisions and it's his property. He stated that they wanted it cheap and they wanted him to stick do the work!
She loves Matt and dedicated her life to that farm before and Matt is a solid dad & business man...Stop blaming Caryn...Zach barely knows how to hold a hammer...and never held a job! Pulling their kids away is evil and selfish... Amy is the one that rushed into marriage with someone that can tolerate her controlling angry competitive ways....God bless Chris
@@colettejaques2559 she ruined a marriage and family but cheer for her if you want. Her goal is the farm and has been been from the start. Hard to raise kids when the father is sleeping with the family business manager
Zach and Tori are entitled brats. Matt had every right to consider all of his children when selling the farm. Frankly, Zach knows how his father is in regards to business. He saw how Matt ran the farm business with Any. Zach was surprised that his father would be any better with him than he was with his mother?
Entitled children. They could have been in the farmhouse if they never got passive aggressive, and forced Amy to move out and sell to Matt. There is also 90 acres of farmland, that is so much land to do so much with. Using children as ransom because you didn''t get the farmhouse is pathetic.
Why does Zack feels entitled to having the farm. Physically he cannot manage the farm, a lot of work is involved, Zack does not strike me as a labor intensive guy, like his father. Stop feeling entitled Zack, help take care of your 3 kids and wife.
True. Zach, I think feels entitled because of blood line. But, he would NEVER be able physically to handle the farm, all the work. AND would never want to put the mental energy into it. He likes a cushy life with making money from the show. No hard labor for him.
She loves being with the kids, she herself said. But I think she needs to have Zach babysit for a couple hours 4-5 x a week so she can get out and exercise. She needs it for body mind and spirit
I think you all need to work on keeping the family intact. Dividing the family is damaging to your kids and future generations. The issue will be long forgotten but the division will be long lasting. What if your grandparents were kept from you?
@@rocksanscatliffe974 . They didn't mind when Caryn took care of thier kids even over night. She was cha cha to them. Those grand babies love her. Zack and Tori ended their relationship!
Ya Zach is upset but holding a grudge & not wanting his dad & Caryn to be with the kids is not right. Tori not wanting to forgive just like Zach is making it worse....life is short. Tori is dividing the family....shameful.
I find Zach to be very immature, and to treat his dad poorly cause he didn’t get the deal he wanted is petty. ( From what they tell on show) Tori to me is a divider and trouble maker.
If there is another season of Zach and Tori acting like entitled brats, I’m not watching. I’m so sick of blaming the “other woman” for everything. Caryn genuinely loved the kids.
Agree, ever liked Zack, was a horrible brother to Jacob an Tori my God she thinks she is IT, just once i would like to see her being involved with Lilah poor kids
There jealous of Caryn.I always thought Caryn only got close to Matt because of money. I also thought the same with Amy’s husband Chris.I think Chris is awesome.He’s so easy going.He’s one of these guys who would try anything.For instance Chris does not look like the type of guy who played sports. I guarantee you if you asked him to play a game of whiffle ball he would not hesitate. I would love to hang out with this guy & Amy.Chris is a class act.
Zach-no skills no money-but give me the farm. Matt should not allow Zach to ruin what Matt has built. Using your kids to manipulate your father-shame on you. If you wanted a "so called deal" why didn't you buy your mom out?
I have been saying that for years! I certainly hope they save the Reality show money! The podcast is not gonna be a great help because out of sight out of mind now that the show is ending! Dumber than a bag of rocks! Tori the teacher! Go get a job!
Zach seem so entitled to the farm. I can't stand his attitude towards his dad. I only see greed on Zach's part. He should be thankful for all the things his dad.has done financally on his behalf. Zach is the only Karen in this picture.Not Caryn.
No he sees than his father is being manupulated by the same mistress who destroyed their family. She is fake. She will soon has control to all his money and he will be declared bankrupt. And Zack and the others will have to pick up the peices. Its happens all the time. She does not love him she loves his money.... Thats clear...
She has an interest in the farm if she wanted. If the farm goes up in value or expands from here on she is entitled to half the difference. Zach is entitled to nothing!!!!
Sometimes adults have to make decisions that their children don’t like. It’s just a part of life. Take some advice from an elderly person, forgive your family for whatever happened. What’s important is that they love you and your family.
Someone needs to explain to these brats that they are not entitled to anything Matt owns. It's not theirs, it's Matt's farm. He put the blood sweet and tears into it, the rest of the family only pitched in at their convince. Go read the story about the little Red Hen. It explains it perfectly, for you kids that think you're entitled to someone else's hard work.
He’s learning to hold on to things like his mom. So it was ok for your dad and Caryn to watch and live your 2 older kids especially Jackson but not the new baby. Grow up and talks things out if not you’re going to be resentful like your mom.
You hate her more than you love your children! That’s disgusting! The more love the children have in their life the better!, Grow up! Put your big girl/boy panties on and do what’s best for the kids!!
you have to realize this is a super complicated matter, and not easy for anyone involved, this kind of decision would take alot to decide, but it seems obvious that this caryn person is just out for the loot... her demeanor is so diffrent then chris, who u can tell has genuine respect and adoration .. caryn seems like the kind who trys to put her two cents in as if she was responsible or is in charge of roloff farms and family .. matts wild ideas havent made him too popular either!
The boys wanted Matt to gift them part of the property and Amy is mad because she said she sold at a discount. Everybody is upset over money. Matt has done nothing wrong.
Zack has to stop throwing a hissy fit on not getting the farm. I’m sure it was very disappointing not getting the farm but Matt wasn’t going to give it to him. There were other family members that wanted the farm too. What job does Zach hold in order to buy such an expensive piece of property? Now he’s going to take it out on Caryn. Matt seems to have moved on and heal the relationship but Zack is holding a grudge.
If I was Matt I would put Zach's 1/4 of the will into a trust fund for the grandkids when they turn 21 and I would leave a letter for all my grandchildren a note telling them how much I loved and missed them while I was alive.
I was just watching the show and saw Matt insinuate the farm was a family farm over & over. When the family wanted to buy a portion Matt reniged and added Caryn to the mix... because he would loss control.
Your not understanding what really went on . Zack is not qualified to run the farm. The only thing he did was ride a tractor around during pumpkin season and complained that he wanted to do it his way. He complained how his dad spent his own money. He botched and bellyache about everything . His lazy wife said they liked the home they were in and she had no interest in living on the farm. The reason is it takes both of them to WORK. She has no clue how to work.
I watch the show and never understood why his son is so angry with his dad? His dad dint want to sell his property for less than what it was worth. I must have missed something. To keep grandchildren away from grandparents is so sad, it hurts the children the most
Caryn was fine as long as she was babysitting sitting for Zack and Torie! They were way to happy to use Matt and Caryn. Why does Chris always gets the go ahead to share his opinions.. because he has a paper stating he is married? That paper doesn’t mean crap! Zack and Torie both should be ashamed of what they did. You NEVER.. EVER use your child to tell anyone anything about an adults situation. Zack wasn’t man enough to tell Matt how fe felt about the situation. Then the parents decide to USE their kids against Caryn. They hurt their own kids by not letting them around Caryn anymore. She didn’t have a piece of paper! But she has more rights to say anything than Amy. Amy sold her part. Did she give her kids any money???? If Caryn is staying there and helping Matt do ANYTHING, she has the right to say anything!! Looks like Chris has really lost his damn mind!! You bought Zack a motorcycle?? Seriously?? What did you buy for the other 3 kids? I know a lot of dumbass people, but even they would buy for the grandkids first!! There are 4 Roloff kids, and the LAZIEST ONE, wants the farm. After all this messed up whinnying over anything Matt build himself, I would sell it all or better yet, I would sell it to Caryn for $1:00 love and affection. Sending Caryn lots of hugs and adoration from South Caroline!! p.s..tell Matt to stop inviting Chris and Amy to those FREE vacations!!
I do not understand why Zach thinks he should of gotten the farm there are also 3 other siblings stop the complaining life is to short enjoy the family you have. Get over it Zach
I have always found Tori and Zach 's behavior in this part to be entitled and selfish. It's okay to have a disagreement and even spend time apart when you feel slighted by a family member or friend. To kind of force it off as it being Caryn playing a primary role is wrong. They're mad because they didn't want to pay the money that it would take to buy mat out of the farm. They're going to end up getting the farm or its proceeds at some point. Anyway. Amy roloff has remarried and Chris was just readily accepted. I don't know what the problem is towards Caryn but I do think that Tori and Zack especially are in the wrong here.
He had very little to do with his mother. The kids always stayed at Matt's place UNTIL he had the falling out. Now Amy is good enough to take care of the kids.
Zach has the entitled mentality. He has to remember that his dad and mom made this farm while they where growing up. They put the money into it. Dad worked his butt off fixing it. I dont know what his deal is, but he needs to let some things go.
I think Zach and Tori both are acting super entitled and kind of snobby. I get being upset you didn't get the farm but they are acting like Matt and Caryn have been hostile and mean towards them for many years which isn't true. They've been good grandparents, loved their kids, and been nothing but nice. I agree Caryn shouldn't have gotten involved but Zach and Tori need to chill.
Zach has a lot of almost resentment, toward his parents. Which makes sense if you have been following them since the beginning. But how much Zach has flourished and being about his, is really cool to see. He has stood his ground. They’re over it at this point. I’d be mad too if my parents couldn’t act more like the adult than their child. And tori just wants to have peace and raise her babies.
This isn't about the money or the farm, it's about feeling valued. Zach knows how much the farm meant to his dad. By not letting one of the children buy the farm, Matt is telling them they are not important, not deserving. What makes a child feel loved more than sharing with them the things you love. JMO.
Zach is a spoilt brat he's always got his way and there were never any consequences for anything he done ,he didn't get his way so he is throwing a tantrum ,his father built that farm up Zac is lazy he can't even help his wife watch their children but he wants to run a million dollar farm ??? I can see why he wouldn't sell it to him did you not see the old episodes all the kids were lazy , I blame Matt and Amy for that but not for not wanting to sell the farm to him.
That was the cutest run to the baby I ever seen
Producers probably told them
Those 3 babies are so precious!! ❤
Tori wants the show forever to revolve around her but 🤔 there are other family members ..!
@@rosannecole4992 the other family members stopped doing the show...... because of all the hate..... now everyone is hating on them. Pretty soon they'll quit too cause of people like you!
Yes they are but they are being used by Tori and Zack totally dislike them
@t dow Good For JD! That Slime Ball Needs Her Arse Checked
@@jenpringle6402 Hopefully They Do & Then They Can Get Real Jobs & Stop The Grifting, Bitching & Whining 🙄 They're So Damn Entitled It's Disgusting.
I honestly, don't think Caryn is a true match for Matt. She shouldn't of gotten involved in the family business/ transactions. Matt knows he's wrong for allowing Caryn to sit in on the meetings with his sons.It's already awkward enough that she was the pumpkin season manager and then became Matt's girlfriend. Very suspicious 👀
You can't blame the immediate family for feeling a certain way about Caryn.
I AGREE!!💯
I think they were fooling around for a while!
They're both adulterous 👿 period
It's come out they did have an affair Amy said matt could lie about a lot of things but that's something he knew he couldn't lie about
Why oh why did he get involved with his employee... Thank goodness Karen can't cry 'sexual harassment in the workplace' since we all see their relationship.
Holy moly these kids are adorable 🥰
THEY ALL ARE SO GOSH DARN CUTE
Maybe, but they all will have life long medical issues! Selfish parents! 😠
And all may have serious health issues. The little boy already had leg surgery and it didnt seem to help at all so far. The girl has eye issues and could have lifelong problems. Well at least lazy Tori is home to take care of them when ahea not plopping one on a rock with rushing water and telling him if he falls in she wont rescue him. Then she leaves the little girl on a counter and turns her back. I have watched this "mother" taking care of these kids. The best thing she could do is to get a job and hire someone to take care of the kids. That wayat least they would be safe.
They need to eventually let this bitterness go, it won't do anyone any good in the long run, especially the kids
Agree dont leave the kids out stupid selfish zack is
Wow Tori said “the kids loveD them”. Past tense describing the kids Loved Matt and Caryn. How sad. Now they don’t get to love them anymore? they loved them because they were amazing grandparents. Let them still be amazing grandparents. Why should your 3 kids have to miss out on that because everyone’s pride is hurt. Such a shame for the kids 😢
No matter what you reap what you sow.Tori was disrespectful to Amy with her lack of support for her but jumped on the bandwagon with Karen who was an employee and is not even engaged or married to Matt.She is not a grandmother in any sense she is just Matt’s girlfriend so I don’t know why she is given so much importance,and she knows it and that’s why she is leaving the show.
That's what spoiled and entitled brats do! They only think of themselves. They'll deliberately choose to hurt their own kid's JUST to hurt the ones they are angry with!
Jackson was close to Matt tori rewining that
@@carmenvalle5457 yup tori ignored Amy big time
"The relationship with the kids will suffer"...when... the parents fail to grow.
The relationship will suffer when kids think they are entitled to what doesn't belong to them
@@kalyco6211 Not the entire story. MATT convinced Amy to sell him the 30 acres and house at BELOW market value at 600k, with the understanding he would pass that savings on to his kids when they were ready to buy....the legacy he kept preaching. BUT the first thing he did was cut the land in HALF to 16 acres but did not cut the price tag in half, but instead he quadrupled the price to 4 million. He tried to screw over his kids...half the land for that much money? Jeremy felt angry over it and walked out. Jermey walking away, Zach stepped up to make an offer. Matt did the same thing. THIS is why they are mad, and Caryn stuck her nose in and got snotty and Tori took offense to how Caryn spoke to her man....a cardinal sin. Now Matt has no relationship with Jeremy or his kids either....Matt was a jerk for that and you reap what you sow.
@@gerryhatrick6678 Google that information Gerry. There was also another huge money transactions between matt and amy for the land. Zach couldn't have afforded to take over that farm at even half cost regardless.
@@gerryhatrick6678 *WHERE AND WHEN DID YOU INVENT THIS CRAZY ASS STORY? THE FARM WAS SOLD SEPARATELY THAN THE HOUSE. TOTAL WAS 1.7 MILLION. SHE DIDNT GIVE ANY BARGAIN TO ANYONE. PLUS SHE DIDNT EVEN THE KIDS 1 ACRE TO BUILD A HOUSE* GREEDY AMYY ROLOFF
@@gerryhatrick6678agreed and with land and the farm being that precious to all of them why wouldn't you want your son to keep tradition and raise his babies there and keep everything in the family for generations to come! Everything isn't always money money money.
Matt knows what he is doing so does karen
ZACH TORI USING THEIR CHILDREN AS POWER PIECES, PAWNS. SO LOW CLASS TORI AND ZAK
@@PostUp_Time yeah I have to agree….Zach and tori your kids are not all that
As someone who has been through a lot at a young age…life’s to short for things like this. Forgive and move on.
He said recognization…. 🤣
Proper word is recognition.
Zach is a complete idiot. He said Columbus sailed in the 1980s! 😂
Oh boy...they're mad at Dad and Ms. Caryn now.
Caryn has a way of controlling Matt without Matt realizing it. Very subtle. Not to say Matt isn't his own person and does what he wants. Just that Caryn knows how to get him to want what she wants.
All women control the house and men bcuz they are kids basically. I'd rather Karen do it that nasty attitude Amy
I agree.👍Caryn reminds me of Robyn from the TLC TV show Sister wives.
SO TRUE!!!
Caryn want his $$$. I bet she use on him as what she want
@@amandaliberty3866 Caryn has tons of money, she doesn't need a matt's money. She would have wanted that house from day 1 and she didn't want it or live there.
These two need to grow up.
I'm still not sure how not getting the farm is a reason to not be OK with one's father, my parents have money and I may or may not inherit it, they've told me I will but frankly if they want to spend it on a condo in Hawaii so be it it's their money. I get they don't want the drama but they are responsible for it.
Because it's about growing up on a farm you consider home and want your family to be a part of, it's not about inheriting mommy and daddy's money. Zach made an offer when Matt decided to sell it. Of course Matt doesn't have to give it to him but it would be the right thing to do.
Zach promised Tori that she was going to be Queen of the farm.
How much did Amy gift Zach when she took her half and ran?? @@natalieh8023
Matt talked nonstop about “the legacy” from this farm, and had put his kids in a place of needing to get his approval over it. Amy and Matt talked about wanting to keep it for the family, and Amy sold her half to Matt under the premise that Matt would leave it to the kids - a farm they both built up. And now he’s going back on everything he pretended to stand for - it like he didn’t know his dad at all.
First Matt has a right to do what ever he wants with his money and property. ..but consequences. Also, I am only speculating. Looking in from the outside, there are two issues. First the farm...and it's not about the money. I believe it is about how Matt treated both boys. Zach has said his whole life the one constant about his future was the "The Legacy of the farm. " Season after season I heard Matt say he was "building a legacy "to pass on to his children. For Matt in the end.....the "Legacy" was not the most important thing to him. I will quote Matt, "This was business, That's what Zach did not understand. It was just business" For Zach and Jeremy it was not business. Zach finally understood where Matt's priorities were when the price Matt offered to sell Zach the farm was more than he could ever afford....it was like torture to Zach and intentionally hurtful.
2nd issue; Caryn...at the time she was Matt's girl friend. Not fiancé, Things could be awkward at times, but the kids were nice to Caryn. In hindsight I am not sure how much they trusted her. Then Caryn got involved in sale of the farm. "business" Sharing in a confessional that she had no idea what Zach and tori were so upset about, that neither she or Matt had done anything wrong so she had no way to "fix" things. Zach and Tori believe Caryn should have stayed out of it...she was not family. I also think there is more hard feelings about Caryn that have not been made public.
Completely agree with Tori’s last line 👍🏽 … No reason to bring toxic relationships around your precious babies and lives!! Stay healthy and happy and positive!!
Maybe She Can Start @ Home? She's Been A Big Drama Queen Since She's Had Her Kids & Talked Zach Into Acting An Ass On Her Behalf
Tori needs to let this go.. There's Grandchildren involved here an she's ripping the relationship apart further an further.... The 3 children are the 1s that will lose out.. If the sale went through Zach would have ran it in the ground in no time anyway... His Father did him a favor.... Nothing is free..
It is only toxic because of Zack. His dad and Karen don't have bad things to say. They miss the grandkids. Zack is cheating his kids out of grandparents just because he didn't get his way.
@@mhdz2691 yep, nothing worth watching with those two
Shes trashing her father in law constantly so shes the one with a toxic relationship. Zack and Tori should get a blue ribbon for pulling off living with a family of 5 who hold no jobs. Lazy and living off the show. They are looking for their own show so they dont ever have to work again.
But until Matt opens his eyes up to what Caryn doing he will never have a relationship with his kids
Caryn isn't doing anything wrong at all.
Right we can count down they're going to end and matt then will see
Caryn has been patient with Matt's family drama....this is not her fault.
It's just as much his fault too!!!
I would say these two have nursed this grudge to the point of being cruel. Zack needs to get a job so that he has less time to focus on forcing his dad into submission by withholding the grandkids. And don't say the show is Zach's job. Matt was on the show too, and still managed to work his butt off. It doesn't take two to watch the kids. Stay at home parents do it every single day.
Amy eggs on the hard feelings too!
@@FredZiffel-m9v Yes she does. Plus. she was ALWAYS so negative about all of Matt's projects, but those projects she hated so much brought her a pretty penny after the divorce. She just never ever had anything positive to say about Matt and what he did try to make their lives better.
They are toxic so Zack is protecting the is children
@@TheresaTalmage They are not toxic. Good grief. Families disagree on things all the time. This was a disagreement and those two pouty child adults need to grow up. It's time to get past this disagreement. Things in life don't always go the way we want them to. So what? That's life. Move on. Matt gave those kids a good life.
I agree 100 percent. Amy sold to Matt for money, now Matt wants to do the same. Zach was a lazy kid and adult, he never did much around the farm. He has no plan. He hasn’t ever even had a job before! All he’s ever done is the show to make money and rely on his parents. Amy was always complaining about Matt having ideas. Matt was the only hard worker and creative person. Amy is so boring, she has a RUclips channel where she is trying to make money making mediocre recipes. Matt was the brains and ambition behind it all.
You can never have to many people who love you. Personally I wouldn't deny my children the love of their grandparents. I would just send them over with other family members. I might grind my teeth the whole time but that's what I PERSONALLY would do. love the show. I except that others do things differently and I do not judge!
True. But Caryn is not a grandparent to them. That's something Matt should have thought of. You screw around on your wife, there are consequences. And honestly, Caryn is a bitch.
Even if you're children were black and your parents were racist, you'd let your child be exposed to racism?
You need to let it go at some point. Life is way too short to continually let this dominate
Your daily dialogue. Let’s move on. We all have family issues. Watching you feud is not good entertainment, and remember your little boy is very smart and hears every word you’re saying.
Karen is not a Family member!
@@ronaldmaatman7130amen! Hate the divorce and the two families bickering
EVERYTHING boils down to MONEY!! Makes me SICK!!😡👎🏻
And they are already rich anyway
I hate to say this...but Matt is right about his kids thinking their entitled to this farm and the land. He mentioned in last week's episode between him and Amy that the kids were horrible with help taking care of their home and land. The kids would drink soda and just throw cans and trash all over the property. He mentioned how the kids would break windows all over the property. Basically, just how irresponsible and spoiled they were. Amy said Matt was just as responsible as she was. Matt would buy 4 wheelers and whatever the kids wanted. I feel Matt was being a great parent(spoiling them...too). He was doing what most parents would do for their kiddos, IF they could afford it. Where they (Amy and Matt) messed up was explaining to their kids...that they should appreciate and be respectful to their home and land. And that they are very fortunate to live and have such things. AND...their home property is also a business. And that they need to help keep the property looking clean.
Matt, also didn't want to sell his sons the property because they couldn't keep up with the needed repairs. He ultimately would have to do the repairs himself... whilst they get to enjoy the nice property. In other words, Matt should of kept the property for himself...if he's doing ALL the work.
I understand where Matt's coming from. Amy on the other hand is just being a protective mom. Who's coddling her kids. She keeps alot of shit stirred up, in my opinion. Her husband Chris wants to do the right thing BUT he's now married to Amy. This is why Amy hates Chris' and Matt's relationship. The whole show is a mess right now. However, I still love LPBW. I'm a diehard fan since the very beginning.
Agreed. When they were married and all 4 of the kids were still living at the home. The place was a pig sty.
Agree.
I completely agree! I believe those boys expected the farm to be handed to them like everything was when they were little… They come off as very entitled…
I disagree with you all lol he worked those kids all thier lives. They were kids. How many of you were perfect at that age? Matt asked wayyyyy above what Amy sold her portion for thinking he would do the same for his kids. They didn't want it for nothing. They worked. Hard. Then Matt asks double. Shameful of Matt and Karen.
Nonsense that Matt is now spewing to try and make his kids look bad. He's glowed for years about the work Zach has done on the farm and how he is pushing the kids to take over yet when they won't pay nearly double what he paid their Mom for the same property a mere year or so before, suddenly the kids are unfit to take over....
Why was Caryn even sitting in on that negotiation meeting in the first place? These negotiations should have been between Matt and his son's. And if Matt felt that the boys weren't going to run the property properly he should have told them that he wasn't even considering them as a buyers and I thought the point of having property and a legacy was to pass it on to your children and keep it going.
Matt obviously wanted Caryn to be there during the meetings with Jeremy and Zach, and that was his prerogative to do so.
@@ilovegoodsax I thought she said during one of the shows that she decided to be there.
@@76TomD If Matt didn't want Caryn to be there for those meetings, he would not have allowed her to participate. That's just common sense.
@@ilovegoodsax she said she decided to go and speak up . Her words, just common sense
@@76TomD Okay...🙄
Bitterness only makes your heart grow colder. Grandparents should be in the kids life, it’s a love you haven’t experienced yet but one day you will.
i think it’s sad for the grandkids. The grandkids miss out and have a huge loss. They all should grow up. Grudges do no good
Zach uses parents u notice he ignored his mom that hole time hanging out with matt
HOW CAN TOXIC TORI SAY ITS NORMAL FOR CHILDREN TO SUFFER WHEN THE ADULTS HAVE CONFLI
They shouldn't use the kids as a pawn to punish Matt, just because they didn't get to takeover the farm. Matt did most the maintenance there, and he's the owner. My mom never gave me an option to buy her houses when she was ready to sell, nor would I expect her to. Why do they feel so entitled to it? He needs to sell it for as much as he can get out of it because he's about due to retire and he deserves to have a nice life. He worked hard all his life. Zach needs to humble himself and go earn his own farm, if that's what he wants. Quit acting like a spoiled child.
Get over it, it's not your farm,, he has a right to do what he wants,,
I completely agree! Same with my parents home! My mom has willed it to my youngest brother out of 6 of siblings BECAUSE he sacrificed his life for 20 years to care for her and the property after our dad passed away. NONE of my siblings had any resentment or expectation to HER HOME! We are grateful and love our brother for his selflessness!
I agree . Stop feeling so entitled.
😂Sorry but I do not agree with you at all! Zach nor his brother should be labeled entitled like you did because each one of them tried to BUY the house that they where raised in which also included some acreage, the NEVER once asked that it should be given to them!!! However, Matt on the other hand had dollar signs flashing in front of his eyes and raised the price up so high that neither Zach or his brother could afford it! Even Amy’s husband who is a realtor said that he was very surprised at the price tag Matt has put on the house and property which ought to tell you something! Matt is a very shrewd businessman but your children are NOT strangers that just walked off the street asking to buy this home, THEY ARE FAMILY, your own flesh and blood!!! I would NEVER try to sell our son our home for the same price I would ask for Joe Blow on the street, NEVER!!! I would much rather have my own flesh and blood living right next to me instead a stranger whom I don’t know and Matt might just get his wish with someone buying this place with whom he won’t get along, which would serve him right for being so unreasonable and greedy!!! Matt’s sidekick Caryn doesn’t help in the matter, she was present at the meeting between Zack and Matt and she opened up her mouth saying things that she shouldn’t have because it is none of her business what goes on between Matt and his children! If she was smart, she would stay out of the family business but she wants to weasel her her way into the whole family dynamic for some reason! This women is NOT married to Matt and in the last episode that aired, she sort of let the cat out of the bag saying that Matt and her have been together for MANY YEARS! Hello, anyone paying attention to that, because It hasn’t been that many years since Matt and Amy got divorced! I still say that Caryn played a big factor in Matt and Amy splitting up, everything pointed to it and for Matt to play innocent and the “nice” guy is laughable‼️
@@rosetijerina2567 My issue is that Amy sold it to him and BELOW market value with the idea of passing the savings onto the kids when they were ready. She sold it for 600K....he cut the land in HALF, but did not HALF the price, but asked 4 million....THAT is the crux of that issue....he was all for legacy when he wanted to buy cheap from AMY but sure changed his tune, when he kept HALF the land and quadrupled the price tag. He did the same to Jeremy which is why he is not in Jeremy's life now either. You reap what you sow Matt.
The relationship with the kids shouldn't suffer. Using kids as weapons is immature and detrimental to the little ones. Suck it up, Buttercups...
Yal sure do forget how much fighting Matt had to do back in the day to get those boys to do anything and then he had to pay them! Also if you look back at all the damage the boys did to the structures a d then Amy did nothing!! Matt is not dead the farm is his to do what he csn to make money!! The boys shpuld have showed Matt by doing all the things Matt wanted, reliability, responsibility, and dedication! I love the show and the family but have been watching since first show, I'm on Matts side for the farm! Glad Amy is happy, she should never have sold her part to Matt in the first place!
I can’t stand Karen and Matt but I agree that Amy instead of constantly complaining should have sold her part to one of the boys
You would be 100% correct, she owns part she still has say in who would reside there
@@MyButterfly60Amy was hypocritical because she sold her half to Matt for money, so she could move on. And then has her husband complain on her behalf in front of the camera that Matt wants to do the same. Those kids never showed initiative, at least not from what we saw on camera. As adults they came around once a year to help out. Not saying they would have still gotten the farm, but they are acting like they want it now.
Zach has always bumped heads with Matt. Since he was younger. Zach is demanding the farm. It is ridiculous.
he wants it and contributed nothing,typical children
Exactly. He was a lazy kid and always complaining, even as an adult he only showed up to help out a a couple times a year IF that. The kids are acting spoiled and petty.
He deserves the farm more than the others.
So sick and tired of Tori, Zach and hell even Amy for that matter bitchin and moaning for months now about how Matt handled the sale of the farm. Amy you're married now so why are you still going in on Matt? Focus on you and Chris. Same for Tori and Zach. You bought a beautiful home for your family so live happily ever after already. Granted the farm has alot of sentimental value but at the end of the day it's only a house. Make your new home one your kids will create new memories just as the farm did for you all. Move on already.
So no one thinks that Zach wife is controlling him the same way you think Matt wife is controlling him?
Oh she does she made zach suck up to Matt that hole time
I do but Matt isnt married to Caryn yet,Tori is def the boss
TORI IS TOXIC, SHE IS THE REASON THE FAMILY IS SPLIT. AND AMY JUST AS TOXIC. THE MOTHER SHOULD BE MENDING THE FAMILY. MATT GAVE HER 1.7 MILLION. HE SET HER UP FOR LIFE!!
@@PostUp_Time The mother could have sold her part of the farm to the kids. But she knew she would get more money out of Matt. And she called him greedy.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Caryn's a home-wrecker and I'll never think otherwise
I agree
lol
Doubt it, but Caryn is better than Amy in every way! All Amy does is complain, complain, complain. And, she is very unpleasant to look at
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@@DollyPardonMe701 you sound like easy prey for women like her lol
I completely agree with you
I believe Zachary and Jeremy feel as entitled as they did as teenagers. Matt worked hard to give his children the childhood he dreamed of his dreams and he was successful.
Since they were born matt has told them they are getting the farm he bought it for family and for the boys to take over he instilled this growing up. So of course they feel entitled to it it was drilled into them from birth
@Kelsea Caesar I agree Matt encouraged the idea of at least Jeremy taking over the running of the farm because he did wish to have his children remain living on the farm and he dreamed of having grandchildren enjoy the farm. Matt is one of a kind and he is kind of annoying. Matt and Amy did not know each other very long before they married and it is probably amazing they stayed together as long as they did. The family was in danger of losing the farm when they decided to do the show which was something Amy resented. I think the older boys do want the farm but I am not sure either would be up for the task or happy doing all the work. The show brought a lot of revenue and opportunities. It is amazing it lasted so long. The show was in danger of being canceled after Matt's court case. Matt also had the stool company with Mike who passed away suddenly. Matt and Amy need to think about Molly and Jake. I hope they figure it out. I don't think the family fight makes for good entertainment. Amy has her faults too.
You can’t blame the kids when their parents handed them everything…they should have also taught their kids a work ethic…the didn’t do that.
@@kelseacaesar2566 drilled into them??? LOL. Well yes, they will take over the family farm when he dies.
I thought Jeremy would get it zach lazy
Only the children will suffer in this decision...
Zach and Tori need to get a job and stop with all this negative energy. Tori and her feud with Audrey has driven a wedge between Zach and Jeremy, now she is encouraging him to hold a grudge against his father. Tori was Molly's friend, and she has distant herself from her now it is Caryn's fault get rid of her who's next. Tori and Zach thought they could hang around until Matt just handed over everything to them which is not fair to the other siblings. The way they use those kids against Matt as pawns is despicable Tori is the bigger problem in my opinion.
Obviously you didn’t watch last season. The thing with Caryn isn’t new this is due to the falling out last season. And Zach and tori never thought anything was getting handed to them. Matt said for the entire existence of the show that he wanted to hand the farm down as a legacy to his kids.
Taking care of threes kids is a full time job.
ShawnieBee Well said ' Both Tori and Zack want everything handed to them and are causing friction with family members..Tori and Zack need to get regular jobs instead of living off the cameras !!!
When Matt talked about legacy of the farm him and Amy were still married then .Everything changed when they got divorced.Matt has said numerous times that he wanted to be fair to all four kids . He wanted zack and Jeremy to run it together but they didn’t want that .The farm is what it is because of Matt he worked for years on that place .Amy always called him a dreamer .Jeremy actually loved farm work and I believe he would have done well but zack doesn’t take the initiative like Jeremy.I think using the grandkids as a pawn is horrible . The kids love them . Amy could have given her part to her kids but she didn’t .She could have even sold it to them with a family discount.Everybody says caryn is the problem she might be who knows but tori is a big problem too .
They both act like brats. They expected to just be handed over that farm. Nevermind that there are two other siblings that are part of that family. They get on their TV program and bash their Dad who bought that farm and wants to benefit from it to live the rest of his life. The two of them feel entitled for everything. My question is, what have Tori's parents given them?? I think that they both feel like they are the only ones entitled to something that never earned.
I think that they are being petty and resentful. How do you cut your family out in a second when things don't go well?
They are acting like children and it's going to hurt the children because of the parents pettiness.
Caryn has made mistakes and she is not a perfect person, but Zach and Tori are such an ungrateful . They like it or know Caryn adores their kids and has been specially amazing with Jackson , she has taken care of him with patience and love .
Ungrateful Tori and Zach tend to forget that Caryn and Matt were filmed by TLC cameras changing Lilah's diaper when Tori went to hospital for the birth of the 3rd child. All I saw was much love and caring for the child by Matt and Caryn. What many people do not realize is that Tori in a covert manner has effectively add logs of timber to the blazing fire between Matt and his sons. She's very devious and overtly rude towards Matt while her low IQ husband allows her to carry out her evil intentions. But, there again, does anyone really know why Tori got married to Matt? Was it love for a severely deformed and undereducated man or the possibility of being co-owner of the farm? I'm reminded of a classic Shakespeare quotation, "Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. Such men are dangerous". Over to you, Mrs Tori Roloff.
They sees thay its Caryn controlling matt. She is after his money and the family home money.
I love Zach and Tori, but they should not hold the kids from Matt and Karen. It’s so petty and unfair. They’ve been wonderful to your kids and just because you didn’t get the farm, don’t do this. You are creating a problem out of nothing. Please get over it. You say you have moved on but you really haven’t.😢
Excuse me? How dare you tell them they need to get over it. That's his childhood home and because Karen and Matt its from him, go fuck yourself
I agree. And they weren’t even doing farm work or duties, like they didn’t hardly show up to do all the work and show initiative. Matt has a right to sell.
100% agree.
I don't agree with playing the victim card and using their kids as pawns. Let it go. Ok, the negotiation did not go as wanted/planned. But sooner or later, you gotta let the resentment go and not let it eat you up.
YEAH MOVE ON. YOU DIDNT OWN THE PROPERTY/FARM BEFORE. YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO WHATS THE BIGGY? TOXIC TORI WANTS TO LIVE IN ISOLATION
Matt screwed his Grandchildren over to... not just his own
You can not tell people how to feel. People process hurt differently. For you to just tell him to get over it and move on, is to tell him to just let his feelings go because hers matter more. She should learn her place in this dynamic and then move on. He needs to take as much time as he needs to process this.
Matt was wrong and needs to ask for forgiveness. He just wants MONEY.
@@jonibrown4427 he is not wrong. The lady needs to stay in her place. Out of family business
Jackson loved Cha Cha his term of endearment for Karyn. When they asked Jackson who they should invite to Lila’s birthday first person he said was Cha Cha. Because of the bitterness Zach and Tori hold they are keeping grandkids from those that love them and watched them a lot. Latest episode Tori says we’ll see what God has in store for us in coming year. Hypocrites. Religious people forgive. They need to leave the show like the rest of the kids and get real jobs.
Y'all have the most adorable children. Love your family.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've been in a position with my inlaws similar to this. They treated us terrible. And cut us out of a business we starred. We let lots of money go for peace we didn't talk to them for a year and the business went under without us. After a year they reached out and we let bygones be bygones and are glad that's in the past. They have admitted faults and we have been able to move forward in a healthy relationship.
Just keep your distance if you can’t forgive
You thought you could get the farm for .25 on the dollar. And your dad called your bluff. He owes none of his kids.
I've watched this show from the beginning and I find Tori and Zack to be hypocritical. Before the farm deal went south, they were very much "Team Matt and Caryn." When they didn't get their way, they cut them out of their lives. This season, Zack and Tori are constructing almost another house on their property to serve as a work space so Zack can learn to "tinker" on his property. They're grownups now so they need to be on their own and have a relationship with their parents. Life changes very quickly; Matt made decisions and it's his property. He stated that they wanted it cheap and they wanted him to stick do the work!
Your a wonderful family.Put all negative people aside.
don't support their stupidity
I think Karen knows exactly what she’s doing. She wants the farm for herself
..and likely always has been her goal
She loves Matt and dedicated her life to that farm before and Matt is a solid dad & business man...Stop blaming Caryn...Zach barely knows how to hold a hammer...and never held a job! Pulling their kids away is evil and selfish... Amy is the one that rushed into marriage with someone that can tolerate her controlling angry competitive ways....God bless Chris
@@colettejaques2559 she ruined a marriage and family but cheer for her if you want. Her goal is the farm and has been been from the start. Hard to raise kids when the father is sleeping with the family business manager
@@colettejaques2559 totally agree with you
Definitely wants to take it all just like she did her ex !! Probably wants to make it a upscale Winery 🍷🍷
Zach and Tori are entitled brats. Matt had every right to consider all of his children when selling the farm. Frankly, Zach knows how his father is in regards to business. He saw how Matt ran the farm business with Any. Zach was surprised that his father would be any better with him than he was with his mother?
Grow up Zach. Blended families include mom and dad's new partners..you are being mean.
Entitled children. They could have been in the farmhouse if they never got passive aggressive, and forced Amy to move out and sell to Matt. There is also 90 acres of farmland, that is so much land to do so much with. Using children as ransom because you didn''t get the farmhouse is pathetic.
Life's too short to bear grudges. 😕
Why does Zack feels entitled to having the farm. Physically he cannot manage the farm, a lot of work is involved, Zack does not strike me as a labor intensive guy, like his father. Stop feeling entitled Zack, help take care of your 3 kids and wife.
True. Zach, I think feels entitled because of blood line. But, he would NEVER be able physically to handle the farm, all the work. AND would never want to put the mental energy into it. He likes a cushy life with making money from the show. No hard labor for him.
Zach you are so right. Love you and your family.
Tori never looks happy
She's a legend
She loves being with the kids, she herself said. But I think she needs to have Zach babysit for a couple hours 4-5 x a week so she can get out and exercise. She needs it for body mind and spirit
Well said!❤
I think you all need to work on keeping the family intact. Dividing the family is damaging to your kids and future generations. The issue will be long forgotten but the division will be long lasting. What if your grandparents were kept from you?
Hello Caryn is no family to him or his children.
@@rocksanscatliffe974 . They didn't mind when Caryn took care of thier kids even over night. She was cha cha to them. Those grand babies love her. Zack and Tori ended their relationship!
Ya Zach is upset but holding a grudge & not wanting his dad & Caryn to be with the kids is not right.
Tori not wanting to forgive just like Zach is making it worse....life is short.
Tori is dividing the family....shameful.
Yeah she is too involved in dividing them. Zach is so greedy and Amy too, all the complaining and trying to make Matt look bad.
I dont blame them, she isn't their family.
I find Zach to be very immature, and to treat his dad poorly cause he didn’t get the deal he wanted is petty. ( From what they tell on show) Tori to me is a divider and trouble maker.
If there is another season of Zach and Tori acting like entitled brats, I’m not watching. I’m so sick of blaming the “other woman” for everything. Caryn genuinely loved the kids.
Agree, ever liked Zack, was a horrible brother to Jacob an Tori my God she thinks she is IT, just once i would like to see her being involved with Lilah poor kids
She must of done something really messed up for them to feel this way towards her .
There jealous of Caryn.I always thought Caryn only got close to Matt because of money. I also thought the same with Amy’s husband Chris.I think Chris is awesome.He’s so easy going.He’s one of these guys who would try anything.For instance Chris does not look like the type of guy who played sports. I guarantee you if you asked him to play a game of whiffle ball he would not hesitate. I would love to hang out with this guy & Amy.Chris is a class act.
She was the empolyee who cheated with their father and broke their family now she controls the father and their home....
Zach-no skills no money-but give me the farm. Matt should not allow Zach to ruin what Matt has built. Using your kids to manipulate your father-shame on you. If you wanted a "so called deal" why didn't you buy your mom out?
What I would like to know is does anyone on this show have a job
I have been saying that for years!
I certainly hope they save the Reality show money!
The podcast is not gonna be a great help because out of sight out of mind now that the show is ending!
Dumber than a bag of rocks!
Tori the teacher! Go get a job!
Matt. That's all.
Zach seem so entitled to the farm. I can't stand his attitude towards his dad. I only see greed on Zach's part. He should be thankful for all the things his dad.has done financally on his behalf. Zach is the only Karen in this picture.Not Caryn.
No he sees than his father is being manupulated by the same mistress who destroyed their family. She is fake. She will soon has control to all his money and he will be declared bankrupt. And Zack and the others will have to pick up the peices. Its happens all the time. She does not love him she loves his money.... Thats clear...
Nicely put!
Relationship will suffer for the kids if you allow it!
If Matt and Karen aren’t married yet she needs to keep her nose out of family issues/business.
She has an interest in the farm if she wanted. If the farm goes up in value or expands from here on she is entitled to half the difference. Zach is entitled to nothing!!!!
Therefore she has more interest legally in the farm than Amy, Zach or anyone else..
@@FredZiffel-m9v They were not married so the person you replied to is 100% correct. She had ZERO interest in the farm legally.
I remember when Zach had Caryn watch the first child many times. Get over it Zach, everything in life is NOT free
Sometimes adults have to make decisions that their children don’t like. It’s just a part of life. Take some advice from an elderly person, forgive your family for whatever happened. What’s important is that they love you and your family.
Zach and Tori are so petty. Throwing a tantrum and "punishing" Matt with his grandkids. So gross.
Someone needs to explain to these brats that they are not entitled to anything Matt owns. It's not theirs, it's Matt's farm. He put the blood sweet and tears into it, the rest of the family only pitched in at their convince. Go read the story about the little Red Hen. It explains it perfectly, for you kids that think you're entitled to someone else's hard work.
I agree 100%!
That little Jackson is adorable. Family is the only one you will have, Matt and Zach should be able to just forgive and move on😊
The sweetest little ones.
These 2 should grow up
He’s learning to hold on to things like his mom. So it was ok for your dad and Caryn to watch and live your 2 older kids especially Jackson but not the new baby. Grow up and talks things out if not you’re going to be resentful like your mom.
You hate her more than you love your children!
That’s disgusting!
The more love the children have in their life the better!,
Grow up! Put your big girl/boy panties on and do what’s best for the kids!!
you have to realize this is a super complicated matter, and not easy for anyone involved, this kind of decision would take alot to decide, but it seems obvious that this caryn person is just out for the loot... her demeanor is so diffrent then chris, who u can tell has genuine respect and adoration .. caryn seems like the kind who trys to put her two cents in as if she was responsible or is in charge of roloff farms and family .. matts wild ideas havent made him too popular either!
The boys wanted Matt to gift them part of the property and Amy is mad because she said she sold at a discount. Everybody is upset over money. Matt has done nothing wrong.
SO, what if she doesn't meet your baby, you think she cares!?
If kids suffer its because of the parents allowing that between them and using children in the middle
Zack has to stop throwing a hissy fit on not getting the farm. I’m sure it was very disappointing not getting the farm but Matt wasn’t going to give it to him. There were other family members that wanted the farm too. What job does Zach hold in order to buy such an expensive piece of property? Now he’s going to take it out on Caryn. Matt seems to have moved on and heal the relationship but Zack is holding a grudge.
There are 5 kids, what gave Useless Zack the right to get the main house ?
Zack has a lot of anger and blaming Matt and Karen
Looks like Karen has made a bunch of fake profiles. 🤣🤣
He’s really annoying and Tori’s posture is like nails on a chalkboard , it’s like sit up straight !
If I was Matt I would put Zach's 1/4 of the will into a trust fund for the grandkids when they turn 21 and I would leave a letter for all my grandchildren a note telling them how much I loved and missed them while I was alive.
Caryn was awesome with your other kids. Not letting her see the baby is just wrong in Tori and Zak. That's ridiculous!
Technically she is not family. They don't have to allow her too.
She is dads girlfriend not grandmother
She was fake she destroyed that family
@@NoloyisoMaqhubela she did not
You don't keep grandkids away because of adult issues. You are depriving the kids of grandparent love.
A thousand percent agree. Immature. What a shame.
I was just watching the show and saw Matt insinuate the farm was a family farm over & over. When the family wanted to buy a portion Matt reniged and added Caryn to the mix... because he would loss control.
Your not understanding what really went on . Zack is not qualified to run the farm. The only thing he did was ride a tractor around during pumpkin season and complained that he wanted to do it his way. He complained how his dad spent his own money. He botched and bellyache about everything . His lazy wife said they liked the home they were in and she had no interest in living on the farm. The reason is it takes both of them to WORK. She has no clue how to work.
Yeah...we all need a break from their family
I watch the show and never understood why his son is so angry with his dad? His dad dint want to sell his property for less than what it was worth. I must have missed something. To keep grandchildren away from grandparents is so sad, it hurts the children the most
Caryn loves the kids to.
They are soooo cute!! Precious babies
Caryn was fine as long as she was babysitting sitting for Zack and Torie! They were way to happy to use Matt and Caryn. Why does Chris always gets the go ahead to share his opinions.. because he has a paper stating he is married? That paper doesn’t mean crap! Zack and Torie both should be ashamed of what they did. You NEVER.. EVER use your child to tell anyone anything about an adults situation. Zack wasn’t man enough to tell Matt how fe felt about the situation. Then the parents decide to USE their kids against Caryn. They hurt their own kids by not letting them around Caryn anymore. She didn’t have a piece of paper! But she has more rights to say anything than Amy. Amy sold her part. Did she give her kids any money???? If Caryn is staying there and helping Matt do ANYTHING, she has the right to say anything!! Looks like Chris has really lost his damn mind!! You bought Zack a motorcycle?? Seriously?? What did you buy for the other 3 kids? I know a lot of dumbass people, but even they would buy for the grandkids first!! There are 4 Roloff kids, and the LAZIEST ONE, wants the farm. After all this messed up whinnying over anything Matt build himself, I would sell it all or better yet, I would sell it to Caryn for $1:00 love and affection. Sending Caryn lots of hugs and adoration from South Caroline!! p.s..tell Matt to stop inviting Chris and Amy to those FREE vacations!!
Yesssss
@@jgirl982 so glad you seem to know it all
@@jgirl982 so glad you know it all
Zach is such a baby. He really thinks that Matt takes orders from Caryn. Heck Matt didn't take them from Amy either and she is 10 tougher than Caryn!
Zach and Tori have some super cute kids they are adorable
I do not understand why Zach thinks he should of gotten the farm there are also 3 other siblings stop the complaining life is to short enjoy the family you have. Get over it Zach
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 ... God bless you Zach and Tori 🤩 your three kids are gorgeous 😍
Don’t lie!
I have always found Tori and Zach 's behavior in this part to be entitled and selfish. It's okay to have a disagreement and even spend time apart when you feel slighted by a family member or friend. To kind of force it off as it being Caryn playing a primary role is wrong. They're mad because they didn't want to pay the money that it would take to buy mat out of the farm. They're going to end up getting the farm or its proceeds at some point. Anyway. Amy roloff has remarried and Chris was just readily accepted. I don't know what the problem is towards Caryn but I do think that Tori and Zack especially are in the wrong here.
The spite move an hour away from two grandparents is amazing. I needed help with kids! Kids need their grandparents period.
Didn't Zach and Tori use to hang out more with Matt and Caryn than with his own mom? Or was that editing?
He had very little to do with his mother. The kids always stayed at Matt's place UNTIL he had the falling out. Now Amy
is good enough to take care of the kids.
good lord Zach..grow up!! This is not a family business. IT is your dads and maybe moms business.
Caryn knows exactly what she’s doing and what she did!! I never liked her.
I actually like her MUCH better than little Amy! 🤮
Me neither using mistress is what she is matt too nasty af
Well, Zach and Tori are upset and taking it out on Caryn. Maybe they feel that Caryn broke the family.
Oh please they dont give a hoot
But she did and is still contolling their home through mat
Zach has the entitled mentality. He has to remember that his dad and mom made this farm while they where growing up. They put the money into it. Dad worked his butt off fixing it. I dont know what his deal is, but he needs to let some things go.
I think Zach and Tori both are acting super entitled and kind of snobby. I get being upset you didn't get the farm but they are acting like Matt and Caryn have been hostile and mean towards them for many years which isn't true. They've been good grandparents, loved their kids, and been nothing but nice. I agree Caryn shouldn't have gotten involved but Zach and Tori need to chill.
Zach has a lot of almost resentment, toward his parents. Which makes sense if you have been following them since the beginning. But how much Zach has flourished and being about his, is really cool to see. He has stood his ground. They’re over it at this point. I’d be mad too if my parents couldn’t act more like the adult than their child. And tori just wants to have peace and raise her babies.
This isn't about the money or the farm, it's about feeling valued. Zach knows how much the farm meant to his dad. By not letting one of the children buy the farm, Matt is telling them they are not important, not deserving. What makes a child feel loved more than sharing with them the things you love. JMO.
Zach is a spoilt brat he's always got his way and there were never any consequences for anything he done ,he didn't get his way so he is throwing a tantrum ,his father built that farm up Zac is lazy he can't even help his wife watch their children but he wants to run a million dollar farm ??? I can see why he wouldn't sell it to him did you not see the old episodes all the kids were lazy , I blame Matt and Amy for that but not for not wanting to sell the farm to him.
I don't blame you guys for not letting her see him. I wouldn't either