The War Aims of Each Nation in WW1 (Part 2) - Old Britannia Reaction
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Chris I hope that you truly know that your subscribers appreciate your content. You’ve gotten me through several tough times. Keep doing what you’re doing and know that hundreds of thousands find joy in that.
And I appreciate all of you. Thanks for the support, and i hope times are going better for you now.
@@VloggingThroughHistorythey are indeed. If you ever want another fun character in American history, look out for August Willich, the Communist Union general. The man challenged Karl Marx to a duel for being too conservative. He was one of the most effective lower level generals due to his experience in the Prussian military.
Same here. I recently lost my fur baby, a cat, named Mr. Furball. Listening to his videos has helped me sleep at night and takes my mind off of his passing.
Chris, I really like this idea of suggesting a video from the original creator that you are *not* going to react to. It's a very good way of encouraging your audience to the original content creators in a way that is richer than simply "Go check them out." To be clear, it's awesome that you already encourage us to check out the original content creators and their other work, but pointing to a specific video for us to learn more really motivates someone like me to actually go check out Old Britannia. I would highly encourage that you keep doing this when reacting to smaller channels (as opposed to, say, extra history or oversimplified). Keep up the great work, and thanks for taking the time to listen.
Old Britannia is very good quality but sadly not enough people know about their great videos yet.
Yeah, I agree. I like the idea of suggesting one of the original content creator's other videos.
VTH: "Italy is the cradle of Western Civilization"
Crete and Greece: "I guess I'm a part of the East then"
I know right? 😂
Everyone knows Fuck Austria is the REAL cradle of Western Civilization 😂😂😂
Facts
Didn’t know Tony Romo majored in History.
You should definitely check out is Great Game between US vs Britain series. I think it would be great to hear an Americans perspective on the topic and our rise to power
You rock Chris! Keep it up. Whenever i need to fall asleep i just put you on. I mean that in the best way possible 😅😅
You and me both, going on 4ish years 🤣
I really enjoyed these videos when I first watched them myself. I always enjoy looking deeply into the motives behind conflicts and getting down to the specifics of the cause and aftermath of conflicts and I would love to see similar content for other conflicts as well and Chris reacting and putting his input to those too. Great videos as always Chris!
I love your videos. Your commentary adds a lot. I also love your original content. Your videos have helped me through tough times ❤
I'm really glad you are reviewing old Britannia, as I think I said yesterday, one of my favourite channels
Drachinifel just had a great video on Prince Phillip. Goes into his Greek background well
Mr. Chris, when I comes to the statement on Italy’s involvement in ww2, said little before this time 5:29, I will say that Italy was betrayed by Germany when Germany went into Poland because the pact of steel that created both an offensive and defensive alliance between them required they state beforehand that they’re going to attack, but Germany didn’t tell Italy about the crises in Czechoslovakia and Poland, with Mussolini stating that Italy wasn’t going to be ready by 1942-43. Just info, love the channel!
I don't think "betrayed" is the right choice of words for it. The diplomatic spiral leading to all of this, in geo strategic matters and in terms of its general and individual timing, was also very volatile and depended on multiple factors on how things turned out. A real big opportunity arose through continuous western allied appeasement politics and the successful non-aggression pact with the Soviets. Germany was under pressure in terms of available time and some of their "plans" (especially the later invasion of the Soviet Union) required very quick actions. Western allies allowing them to annex multiple nations without military intervention, opend up the window for a "simulated" successful war on the Soviets, within German simulated war schedule, while any other outcome made the invasion of the Soviet Union questionable (at a later date that is).
And it turned out Mussolini completely sucked as a military leader.
I like your comment on Japan. We in the West tend to focus on the European theater and ignore Africa and Asia. It's called a world war for a reason.
Serbias strong defense against the Austrians was thanks to an Austrian espionage Case. The Austrian Officer Alfred Redl sold all the Plans Austria made in advance to the Russians years before the war started and Russia gave them to Serbia. This helped the Serbs to prepare their defense.
Maybe, but the fact was that in 1914 AH attacked from the west across the Drina river which is to put it simply: stupid. If you look into the geography of Serbia, you'll see that the natural way to invade it was from the north, which in the end Germans and Austrians did in 1915. Serbian military leadership believed for quite a long time that it was a diversion and that the real attack was to come from the north.
Additionally, AH hadn't fought a war since 1848 and neither officers nor troops had any combat experience, where Serbs have fought for two years prior to the WWI. Officers and enlisted men alike were veterans by the outbreak of the Great War.
To top all of that, AH army was a mess of two different armies (Austrian Landwehr and Hungarian Honved) and dozens of nationalities and religions, while the Serbian army was homogenous.
There's an anegdote about a major that was flanked on an exam by general Stepa, for favoring the idea that Austrians would attack from the west. In the middle of the first battle of 1914, he was giving a report to general Stepa as his battalion was at the central point of the front line. After giving the report, he made a comment to the general about being flanked at the exam, and yet the Austrians had indeed attacked from the west. To which the general replied:
- Well, they are going to get the same result as you did on the exam.
Very pleased to see you react to this channel, I have been pushing it for some time. I will echo another commenter and suggest their series on US-British relations as it it is very informative on how US and British interests began to align by about 1900 and it helps to explain why Britain was far less alarmed by the US naval buildup in contrast to the German one.
From a Bulgarian perspective, I can tell you that what he says about my ancestors here is 100% on point. The Bulgarian government at the time did act like a mercenary. It is actually a very accurate description. The reason for this being that Bulgarian politics at the time was still fixed on the treaty of San Stefano and the territories that it promised.
So after the treaty of Berlin (1878) crossed out those promises the actions of Bulgaria, at least foreign policy wise, were all set up so as to claim (or in eyes of my ancestors reclaim) those lands. The two Balkan wars being great examples. After the Bulgarian defeat in the second one of these, the country lost even more territory. So come WW1 it kinda makes sense that Bulgaria would join who ever can offer the most since the aim now is to recuperate the lost territory in the second Balkan war and also still chase after the territories promised long time ago in San Stefano.
A bit of a long explanation but I do know how much you love historical context. Great video by the way. And best regards from Bulgaria
I've never been super interested in the Great War era, but I'm loving these videos so far!
Heads up Chris, the grand finale of Checkmate Lincolnites is coming out soon!
Hi. Love your channel. Please venture into history of countries you're not familiar with that much. Would love to see more of that as well.
Florence is my favorite city I visited, you're going to love it there!
Chris, if you go to northern Italy, or into Tuscany, then besides Florence, you absolutely have to visit San Gimignano and Monteriggioni, if you ever are in the Emilia-Romagna, make sure to visit Bologna!
VTH made a video. Today will be a great day.
The Great War and Epic History TV do episodes about lesser known topics about smaller countries and lesser known treaties. Pretty fascinating stuff
Have a good time in Italy!
Speaking of the founding of Italy, any chance you cover HistoryMarche's video on Napoleon III and the Battle of Solferino?
great!
2:04 have you watched the series of the medici family thats came out a couple years ago?
i thought it was fantastic, keep it on a USB with other series for rewatching.
The ruler of Romania was interestingly a Catholic branch of the Hohenzollern Royal Family.
13:10 It's not just Austria-Hungary and Bulgaria that attacked Serbia in fall of 1915 (in Serbia it's called "Triple invasion" for reason), Germany also sent one of it's entire army (11th army i think). Heck, even the commander of the entire operation was german general and later fieldmarshal, August von Mackensen (also known as "Last Hussar").
Please do More Old Britannia. He is great!
Nice old Britannia is crazy underrated!
The Great War is interesting because an end date is very hard to pin down exactly. You have 1918 (which isn’t really an end date for various reasons including the fact it had to be renewed something like four times.). The Treaty of Versailles, the Treaty of Saint Germain-en-Laye, the Treaty of Neuilly-sur-Seine are signed in 1919 but don’t go into effect until 1920. You have the Treaty of Trianon and the Treaty of Sèvres which were signed in 1920 and the Trianon treaty went into effect in 1921 while the Sèvres treaty was rendered void. The United States- Austria, the United States-Germany, the United States-Hungary Treaties signed in 1921 and would go into effect later that year. Finally the Treaty of Lausanne signed in 1923 and would go into effect in 1924 (and is the reason the Sèvres treaty is rendered void. Out of all the treaties (because an armistice isn’t a real end to a war, for example look at Korea, I like to say the war ended in 1920 as that’s when most of the great powers ended the war (except the United States because they have to make everything so difficult).
Old Britannia is a really interesting channel because he delves into nuances and lesser-known thoughts of the day that are rarely mentioned. However it should be noted that some of his earlier videos are quite biased and he makes no secret of his patriotism for Britain. Worth bearing in mind.
He talks more about the foreign diplomacy and policy.
I think one of Wilsons major reasons for entering the war was to have a seat at the table in the peace negotiations. While his ideals of national determination was one motivation for this, a more important one was the real politick aim to limit the British Empire's influence in the peace negotiations. The 'special relationship' between the British and the United States was far from established in 1917 and a British Empire strengthened by being the predominant power in peace negotiations was seen as a threat to US interests.
Hey Chris! A brother of mine is currently studying in Rome, and I was wondering if it would be possible for him to join you in one of your walks through the city, that would be awesome. Cheers!
Whats with the Ipswich shirt in the thumbnail?
Interresting that Italy didn't get most of the territory they wanted but they still got south tyrol, which had basically no italians in it at the time (and besides the south western tip is still only about 10% italian even after 100 years)
Hi Chris! I was wondering if you could do a react vid to Ryan Chapman’s “How World War 2 Began”. It’s about 2 hrs long, but certainly has a lot of historical substance!
To be fair to that English statesman commenting on the Italian contribution, we’d all be better off if all the involved nations were more interested in serving ice cream than making war…
Just a recommendation I think you’d be very interested in the Spanish civil war, there are some good videos on YT about it as well. Very underdiscussed part of history imo
It's interesting that it is as you say a somewhat under discussed part of history, but has a rather large representation in literature.
WW1 in Romania is viewed overall in a positive light, as it did lead to the largest version from a lands point of view, and the fulfilling of hundres of years of desire, and that is finally gaining control over Transilvania. Despite the early war disasters, the loss of manpower and equipment it led to great out come in terms of territory, national identity and pride, world stage recognition etc. AND YET, during WW1, when the country was on the verge of completly falling to the Axis Powers (well, lets face it, Germany) we have the source of a decades old dispute with the Soviets, and later the Russians, that is still relevant today: and that is the question of the Treasury (which involved both monetary and cultural objects) that was transfered to the Russians and was never returned. Actually, in the context of the ongoing Russo - Ukrainian war, it has resurfaced in recent weeks as a point of contention, and from our viewpoint, a chance to get the international comunity to take notice of our grievance and maybe, just maybe setting in motion a positive resolution in the years that come. Of course, that may very well depend on the outcome of the current war in Ukraine
It's essential to recognize Italy's unique position among the great powers. I disagree with Old Britannia's statement that Italy was not a "Great Power" and I believe it also goes against historians general consensus. Despite Italy's historical significance, Italy's population is smaller compared to other major nations, including Japan. Additionally, its industrial development lagged behind (primarily being made up of specialized craftsmen and luxury goods industries, though with a notable naval industry that was competitive), and the country's population is characterized by significant linguistic, dialectical, and identity differences. It wasn't until World War I that a sense of national unity emerged among Italians, forged through shared experiences on the frontlines. This nuanced history positions Italy as either the 'Least of the Great Powers' or the 'Greatest of the Regional Powers', though most historians and contemporary sources will refer to Italy's as the former.
i liked the video a lot
Best RUclipsr hopefully you see this
You should do a reaction video on spectrum, he does a WW1 performance tier list
Sadly, no Belgium... They actually wanted more parts of Germany, Dutch Limbourg and Luxembourg, the latter two because they were part of their kingdom in the early stages of the country (from 1830 to 1839). the great powers settled the seperation of half of Luxembourg and half of Limbourg for the Dutch king.
The map is a bit confusing because the map is a lot different now so know on the regular map where the countries are more but looked different back then. lol
hay Chris you reckon ipswich are getting promoted?
They're in a good position for it! I think they will.
@@VloggingThroughHistory If West Brom get in, how do you think WBA will do in the playoffs?
I'd Like to mention Poland. Obviousely she wasn't a country by then, being divided between Russia Germany and Austria-Hungary, but WWI became a real opportunity for gaining independence, as our three partitioners were fighting each other. Polish soldiers were included in all three armies, and in the end, all three nations lost, allowing Poland to gain independence
Chris you are a legend, let’s grab a drink sometime 😅
Wilson and the qestion of self-determinination. That worked out well.😒
Wars of Diadochi reactions?
The British also wanted to go to war against the Kemalists during the Chanak crisis and asked for help from the empire. Canada, South Africa, and Australia refused and the British were forced to evacuate Constantinople. A little over a decade later the Dominions received control over their own foreign policies.
Again complete and utter tosh.
Good old Italy flip-flopping and still not getting what they wanted.
You should react to history bombs
"Pastors don't wear West Brom tops. You, sir, are an anarchist!" My Opinion 4:13
Could be argued that the Mongol Empire was the greatest empire, especially if you are judging by territory.
US War Aim: make sure the countries indebted to them survive so they can potentially repay those debts.
Who else thinks Chris should react to Shane Gillis and Louis cks presidents series
The results of Western promises to those living in Palestine, to both Jews and non-Jews at the end of the war, that end up not entirely being kept, has largely contributed to many of the tensions and troubles in the Mideast today.
anyone else think italy should have asked for corsica ?
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh Queen Elizabeth's SECOND husband??? Queen Elizabeth was only married once and that marriage was to Philip..
I think he said,'Queen Elizabeth the seconds husband'.
@@abett6111 I am hard of hearing so I listened to that part of the clip 9 times to best understand what was said. But I'll freely admit I could have misunderstood what was said.
"Queen Elizabeth the Second's husband", does make a lot more sense..
@@rickwiles8835I can imagine even if you heard correctly that it was a misspeak on the part of the speaker regardless to be fair
How much history does it take to kill Chris Mowery? None.
Did the american civil wars brutality have an effect on why america wouldnt join?
Day 100 of asking for a reaction to any video on the Sengoku Period of Japanese History :)
at 4:16 you say Austria shpuld give up the Italian claims, but taht was never going to happen, considering Triest was Austrais only Port on the Mediterranean in Austria proper.
if it was some bumfuck serbian or balkan land maybe, but not the most important austrian port
Day 15 of requesting a reaction to the Unbiaised history of Rome
OK, my comments:
- Around 10:40, it is not true that "it is too late", whatever the German Kaiser said. The German Kaiser wanted this war first and foremost, using the cause of the assasination of the Austrian archduke as casus belli. But whatever the Austrians wanted in response to this assasination, did not matter. It was the German Kaiser who told their subordinates, including A-H, what to do. So if the German Kaiser would not want war, there would be no war. Period.
- Second, I think Bulgaria's pre-war borders are wrongly drawn in this video. Bulgaria definitely did not have access to the Aegan sea in 1914. There were two Balkans wars, and in the second, everyone teamed up against Bulgaria and took huge lands from it which it gained in the first Balkans war. So Bulgaria wanted those territories back from Serbia, Romania etc, that's why they joined the Central Powers, the only logical choice given these events.
- As for Romania's war aims, and that they still did not get the Tisza border they wanted after the war.. to understand this, we have to open up a nasty can on worms, which however is the truth, so it's inevitable. Romania, after it's creation, went on with a fictional history being taught as official history, and it is the official version there even today. It holds that the Romanians living today are the descendants of the antique people of the Dacians who lived on about that area which is Romania today (except that in that time the Dacians western border was the Tisza river), and that continuity persisted ever since, their old Dacian people and lands just have been under uccupation from foreign powers, like the Cumans, Hungarians, Petchenegs, Golden Horde Mongols, Turks etc. etc. but the Dacian/Romanian peoples (which are the same) have always lived on those territories, and now are finally free.
The only problem with this theory is that it is complete bullshit, not acknowledged by any contemporary historian outside Romania:P Yet, it is the official Romanian version even nowadays and the Romanian state is backing excavations at town squares in Transylvania just to prove that "OMG these are Dacian remains - you see? We were here even back then!'"
In reality however, the Romanians of today are descendants of romanized Thraks (from the Roman province of Thrakia) who over time migrated upwards north. By the time the Hungarians arrived to the Carpathian basin and Transylvania, they were about in the middle of nowaday Serbia. The Carpathian basin and Transylvania was generally a no-ones land, scarcely populated by the remnants of Attila's huns, the remnants of the Avars, and some Slavs. Generally, it was an unpoulated battlefield of the Frank Empire and the Byzantine Empire until the migrating Hungarian tribes claimed it and populated it for themselves by the IX. century CE.
After that the whole Carpathian basin was entirely Hungarian populated, until the Mongol invasion of Hungary in 1241 which ended in the extermination of half of Hungary's population, and also the 150 years of Ottoman occupation when most of Hungary's territory, including Transylvania, was a warzone and largely depopulated.
Landlords wanted serf labor working on their new lands however and "imported" serfs from the neighbouring areas after 1686. In the case of Transylvania these new serfs were brought in from the neighbouring principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia which were already settled by Vlachs (descendants of nowadays Romanians) by that time.
So that's why by the time of the Trianon peace treaty, Transylvania had a Romanian majority. Not at all such a large majority as it has today, which is the result of the communist dictator Ceausescus settling of more Romanians in Transylvania, and like 1.5 millions of Hungarians still live in Transylvania today, outside of Hungarian borders..
But that is the true story behind this and none of this nonsense taught in Romanian schools today about "Daco-Romanian history".
Japan is probably the only World War One nation to get everything it wanted and not have major repercussions as a result of deeds in the war.
Yeah defo Austrians were idiots if italy may have entered imo central powers would have won
If you posted more my day would be so much better...