I grew up next to this place and it was amazing seeing all of these trains so often. However people sometimes would get grumpy at the locals for wanting to ride the trains. But all in all it was a great experience living there and the railway made for supreme hiking routes seeing all the props, tunnels, bridges, and railway cars.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. I see that a lot in this hobby. People like that should remember that they were kids once, and probably got into the hobby because some grownup encouraged and supported them. Thanks for watching!
A lot of it depends on if the people know you. Giving a stranger/a member of the public a ride can open up the door to liability and the state could get involved as giving the public rides could put the miniature train under the state amusement ride act. In the later 90's some people in MI tried to get the hobby trains under the amusement ride act as well. For the most part, if the general public rides, it would fall under the amusement ride act (the state is responsible for the safety of the public on amusement rides), but if it is for private use (friends, family) then it is private.
Wow! It must be nice to operate live steam on a railway where the full route requires more than one filling of the tender. Very interesting video when you are also looking at the track map on the railroad's website.
I got a wooden boxcar that I got when I was a kid it's actually a toy box lift up the lid and the door even slides open has Burlington Northern stickers on it I am 56 years old now I got it when I was 7 I see the boxcar your Towing has a wooden lid are some of the boxcars made out of wood
I believe most of the car are aluminum or some other metal. There are occasional derailments, and I don’t support wooden cars would hold up to those very well. Thanks for watching!
That would be interesting, only that's not how they lay track for this scale. It's assembled in sections in the shop (rails and ties together as a length of track) and hauled out to the location and installed.
How come the tank car changed to that Flatbed car with that blue thing and the cardboard box on it at 16.03 ??? , Extra cool setup but ya need tunnels ,,just saying.
Good eye! We were setting out and picking up cars, so the consist changed. There are two tunnels, neither very long. We enter the first one right away after leaving the yard, at approximately 0:45. The second one (much shorter) is around 22:35. Thanks for watching!
I should have paid attention to where you switched out cars! I suddenly noticed around Edison or so that the orange tanker turned into the blue tugboat.
I believe they use winter to work on new track sections (in the shop) and perform other maintenance. The rails would have no traction in the cold wet icy winter conditions.
The two lakes are named Reed Lake and Mirror Lake. Two of the “towns” bear the same names. There is also a Lake City town, as well as Waterton and Seaside. At the farthest south end there is a branch running to Three Mile Island with a Bayport town.
Yes, this is layout is quite large, about eight actual miles of mainline track. N-scale would be much more manageable, and affordable. But it is a lot of fun! Thanks for watching!
Funny you should say that... At the end of the weekend, we do go around the layout and pick up a lot of cars and bring them back in. I think the longest consist I've pulled is 15-16 cars. That's about as much a single locomotive can pull up the grades. Thanks for watching!
Sorry for the confusion. Standard gauge railroad (the real thing) has a track gauge of 4’ 8-1/2”. Live steam, which is 1/8 Scale, has a track gauge of 7-1/2”.
You did see all the towns and stations, just not every tree on the 120 acres. I had to cut something out or it would have been a 40+ minute video. Thanks for watching!
Doug & Kathy Davies Most of the mainline is single track. Those white posts are push switches that set and clear the track signals so other trains know when a block is occupied.
Doug & Kathy Davies so basicly they push the signal and down the line it tells other trains "hey lookout train on the line headed your way" is that about right?
Моё предложение; заделайте для детей аттракцион, и катайте их за небольшую плату, и дети будут довольны, ну и у вас будут средства для содержания вашей уникальной железной дороги, кто за!
I grew up next to this place and it was amazing seeing all of these trains so often. However people sometimes would get grumpy at the locals for wanting to ride the trains. But all in all it was a great experience living there and the railway made for supreme hiking routes seeing all the props, tunnels, bridges, and railway cars.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. I see that a lot in this hobby. People like that should remember that they were kids once, and probably got into the hobby because some grownup encouraged and supported them. Thanks for watching!
Oh I was going to ask if they gave rides to kids. I guess not. It would be a huge liability problem these days though.
@@stpaulimdog They did at first but it became less frequent over time.
A lot of it depends on if the people know you. Giving a stranger/a member of the public a ride can open up the door to liability and the state could get involved as giving the public rides could put the miniature train under the state amusement ride act. In the later 90's some people in MI tried to get the hobby trains under the amusement ride act as well.
For the most part, if the general public rides, it would fall under the amusement ride act (the state is responsible for the safety of the public on amusement rides), but if it is for private use (friends, family) then it is private.
I like all the sidings with industry, very realistic for drop offs and pick ups!
Yes, I agree! This layout was built for operations like that, and it’s what makes it so enjoyable . Thanks for watching!
This HAS to be one of the largest in the U.S. WOW! Just incredible.
Actually, Train Mountain is much much larger: trainmtn.org/pages/visitors-1.shtml
The largest east of the Mississippi I believe. Around 5 miles of mainline track
This is just one of those dreams I have that will never be fulfilled, but still nice to think about
And fun to operate! Thanks for watching!
Amazing micro-railway! Many thanks for filming
Thank you for watching!
Ive been here before I think its really cool but some parts you would have to get off the train so it could go through the little tunnels
These tunnels seemed to be big enough, but I suppose that could be possible. I don't recall seeing anyone having to get off.
This is just too cute!
Nice Railroad you guys got, I've always love live steam operations
Yes, it's a lot of fun watching the live steamers! Thanks for watching!
Wow! It must be nice to operate live steam on a railway where the full route requires more than one filling of the tender. Very interesting video when you are also looking at the track map on the railroad's website.
Thanks for watching!
awesome., i wish i can build that thing , i want to experience that ride., but here in philippines thats to far away to experience.,
Thanks for watching!
I got a wooden boxcar that I got when I was a kid it's actually a toy box lift up the lid and the door even slides open has Burlington Northern stickers on it I am 56 years old now I got it when I was 7 I see the boxcar your Towing has a wooden lid are some of the boxcars made out of wood
I believe most of the car are aluminum or some other metal. There are occasional derailments, and I don’t support wooden cars would hold up to those very well. Thanks for watching!
That is one huge layout it must took years to put that together
I don't know exactly how long it took to build, but I'm sure it's taken a long time. Thanks for watching!
It would be cool to see a modern scale rail laying set up for this railroad.
That would be interesting, only that's not how they lay track for this scale. It's assembled in sections in the shop (rails and ties together as a length of track) and hauled out to the location and installed.
How come the tank car changed to that Flatbed car with that blue thing and the cardboard box on it at 16.03 ??? , Extra cool setup but ya need tunnels ,,just saying.
Good eye! We were setting out and picking up cars, so the consist changed. There are two tunnels, neither very long. We enter the first one right away after leaving the yard, at approximately 0:45. The second one (much shorter) is around 22:35. Thanks for watching!
This is so cool! It's a real functioning railroad. What happens when the crew runs out of hours, is there a van that shows up for the crew change?
haha! yes! Each run out and back takes an hour or two. There's almost 8 miles of mainline track. We take breaks every so often. Thanks for watching!
Just a small van. Room enough for the driver and one passenger.
Very nice layout .
Thanks for watching!
I should have paid attention to where you switched out cars! I suddenly noticed around Edison or so that the orange tanker turned into the blue tugboat.
TAMosquito haha! Yeah, not all the video I shot made it into the final cut. It would have been way too long.
I would love to work there as care taker, to make this place even more beautiful and interesting.
The owner has a couple staff employees that maintain things. Thanks for watching!
It's a nice look at the layout, but some looking left and right for some perspective would have been nice. Especially around the big horseshoes.
Thank you for the feedback. Yes, it would have been nice to add different shots, and I will keep that in mind next time. Thanks for watching!
Does the train/railroad operate during the winter?
I believe they use winter to work on new track sections (in the shop) and perform other maintenance. The rails would have no traction in the cold wet icy winter conditions.
@@tjbuege Makes sense. I know how cold and nasty it gets there after spending several years in Wisconsin. Thanks TimB. Cheers.
And I suppose the lake is called Lakeview nice setup I like it
The two lakes are named Reed Lake and Mirror Lake. Two of the “towns” bear the same names. There is also a Lake City town, as well as Waterton and Seaside. At the farthest south end there is a branch running to Three Mile Island with a Bayport town.
May I have a link to white creek
this must have been fun constructing
I'm sure, but it's not something I've had the opportunity to participate in building.
I would build a ferry next to the lake.
how this infrastructure was made, if this is in our country, the roads in many villages are damaged, maybe we will be happy
Yes, you can't build something like this just anywhere. You would need to consider location. Thanks for watching!
This place is 50 minutes from me, I should check it out. I can put the address if you want
Where is this at? Would like to visit sometime.
Tanker 10001 where is White Creek located.
I'll just stick to playing with N scale in my backyard. So expansive in miniature form.
Yes, this is layout is quite large, about eight actual miles of mainline track. N-scale would be much more manageable, and affordable. But it is a lot of fun! Thanks for watching!
It's a private layout north of Grand Rapids, MI. Open by invitation only. Thanks for watching!
i want to build these, just dont know how to do it or start at all, would make a big yard work look fun lol
It's very expensive and time consuming. I couldn't do it. I'll stick to small scale trains in my basement. Thanks for watching!
How many Acres ?
I believe it's 120 acres
Jesus, how big is this place?
120 acres
Idk about you all but if i saw random carts on sidelines id takem with my train and keep picken them up as i go down the track
Me too. Make a nice long consist.
Funny you should say that... At the end of the weekend, we do go around the layout and pick up a lot of cars and bring them back in. I think the longest consist I've pulled is 15-16 cars. That's about as much a single locomotive can pull up the grades. Thanks for watching!
what Gauge and where is this?
N2RI1 The description of the video says where it is located. It is standard gauge 1/8 scale (1-1/2” to the foot).
track gauge? 12"?
Sorry for the confusion. Standard gauge railroad (the real thing) has a track gauge of 4’ 8-1/2”. Live steam, which is 1/8 Scale, has a track gauge of 7-1/2”.
based on the jump cut edits.....we really didn't see the full line
You did see all the towns and stations, just not every tree on the 120 acres. I had to cut something out or it would have been a 40+ minute video. Thanks for watching!
Nice nice
Thanks for watching!
And at 15:24 the train weebl wobbles but it dont fall down xD
Just a little shake. Nothing out of ordinary.
Yep, this is normal. Thanks for watching!
What's with grabbing the white topped posts on the way by?
Doug & Kathy Davies Most of the mainline is single track. Those white posts are push switches that set and clear the track signals so other trains know when a block is occupied.
Thanks Tim. I kinda though that was the case but asking confirms it. What a great setup.
Doug & Kathy Davies so basicly they push the signal and down the line it tells other trains "hey lookout train on the line headed your way" is that about right?
Play this while you watch: open.spotify.com/track/61nSbxyL6VRPp32AMscxiF
Моё предложение; заделайте для детей аттракцион, и катайте их за небольшую плату, и дети будут довольны, ну и у вас будут средства для содержания вашей уникальной железной дороги, кто за!
The owner has another stable means of income to pay for this. They do allow visitors to occasionally ride around on weekends. Thanks for watching!
The locos are the stars of these things, not the back of red baseball caps.
Почему в России такого нет!?
Maybe you could build something like this and start a new trend? Thanks for watching!