@@RetroGamesRediscovered Because the same reason a ARMIGA is called a ARMIGA so it feels like a AMIGA, they are playing with 30 years of nostalgia ... :)
Because personal computers first used DB-25 connectors for their serial and parallel ports, when the PC serial port began to use 9-pin connectors, they were often labeled as DB-9 instead of DE-9 connectors, due to an ignorance of the fact that B represented a shell size.
DOpus is a multipanel file management/directory tool, was really handy for copying files from one location to another. That Clown Picture I think came with one of the Amiga Paint programs and was often used on Public Domain disks. I know I have seen it 1000's of times.
They have the Amistore inbound which could be a game changer to support ondgoing 68k development. Other than that I would say no but if they offer a functioning RS-232 serial port by utilising the internal serial header and make it fully Amiga compatible I'm in!
@@bigd5090 Thanks. I'm not that active with AMIGA, so i don't need the serial. I still own 4 real Amiga's and a CD32 with Promodule. Amibench in black looks nice.
@@V3ntilatorWhy are you asking about personal problems when he's telling you about grammatical errors? The apostrophe was used incorrectly. You have "4 Amigas". You use the apostrophe to signify belonging to something. Eg "my Amiga's hard drive".
It's just an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat and custom case. An Orange Pi is not quite fast enough for Amiga emulation. You could get near enough the same thing with a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box. As far as capability goes there's nothing new. Just use Winuae (free) or get an A500mini. Or get a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box and install the software yourself or use a Pi. Wow, over two hundred bucks. They got this guy hook, line and sinker lol
@@-NiEr The A500mini uses an Allwinner H6 chip which is a ARM Cortex A53 with a turbo clock up to 1.8GHz, released 2019. The Orange Pi uses an Allwinner H3 which is ARM Cortex A7 with a turbo clock up to 1.3GHz, released in 2014. So by those numbers alone the A500mini is better but in real terms there's very little in it since they are both very cheap ARM cpus. But certainly the A500mini has a faster CPU. Also the A500mini can be modified to run whatever you want in terms of other emulators etc. On mine I can run some other consoles like snes, colecovision, 2600/7800 etc.
@@g4z-kb7ct Thank you very much for this info. For "clearing things up" - Strange that an older product has a newer processor! It should be the other way around - I think...
Well, technically it's a new EMULATED Amiga Classic 68K Computer. A virtual classic Amiga is still an Amiga, and it comes on a NEW custom PCB, in a NEW custom case. So, they're not wrong. 😉 As far as the classic OS and applications are concerned, it's 68K Amiga hardware. Anyway, please be careful what you say... virtual Amigas have feelings too ya know. 😂
It's not something I would buy, as I already have too many devices to run emulated Amigas on. But at least it's being worked on and updated on a regular basis. It comes with a warranty and support, it's ready to run out the box, it has simple OTA updates, and unlike Hyperion, they don't charge you for the next version of the OS. But I'm guessing your soon to be released product will be much better in every way. 😂
From what I understand, this is a VERY over priced emulator with a horrible interface and a slightly shoddy case. You'd be much, much better off just using a Pi 5 for this kind of emulation.
Totally agree. Though personally I would rather use winuae. Far superior. And I hate that this hasn't got proper workbench, just some proprietary crap they chose to put on here.
@@yogibear2k220You can install and customise any version of the Amiga OS and/or GUI you want. Many modern 'Amiga' products use something other than the ridiculously simple and outdated standard Workbench from back in the day. There are a great many options out there.
@@yogibear2k220it has AmiBench which is basically workbench… It’s based on AROS + their own stuff. They’ve rewritten the data types libraries / system from scratch. These libraries “bang” the ARM metal. Plus you get a load of updated productivity software with it.
@@yogibear2k220 Having owned several Amigas, I am well aware of what they and the Workbench are. But clearly you don't. Workbench is just the desktop GUI, running on top of Amiga DOS, which in turn requires a Kick-start or compatible ROM image to boot. The vast majority of Amiga games completely bypassed Workbench, yet nobody would claim it's not an Amiga just because it's running Lemmings or Genetic Species without Workbench. And besides, several Workbench replacements existed back in the day... yet they were still Amigas. But the 600GS gives you full access to an Amiga desktop if you want it. And if you don't like it, you can install whatever Amiga OS versions you like, because it runs Linux and the Amiberry emulator. That allows seamless access to the modern hardware and do things 'real' Amigas can't. Out of the box it runs a modified version of AROS 68K under Amiga hardware emulation. AROS is a complete re-implementation of Amiga OS and Workbench, created from the ground up, and it's not bogged down by copyright and patent issues. It's being actively developed and regularly updated. AROS is also the base OS for the Vampire V4 standalone etc. So not boring at all.
looks like a standart single board arm device, in a nice case and an gpio board with db9 connector. the true value of this device is the software and the nostalgia
Two questions that remain unanswered (from my searches): 1) Am I right in assuming that these updated apps can only run on AmiBench? i.e. You can't copy them and use them on a classic Amiga? 2) In what way(s) has Directory Opus 4 been updated? Has it been well and truly bug fixed since it was abandoned, or is it just a new version stamp on old software?
Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
@@wonderdog8895 the target market is suckers with too much money who don't do enough research (lol) to see it's just an Orange Pi Zero and the top hat isn't needed, just use a usb joystick, plenty of retro usb controllers out there now.
Like a "$30" Raspberry Pi but one provided with an HDMI cable, power cable and SD card, complete with preconfigured OS, plus an Amiga emulator, an Amiga OS and several licenced software packages installed and preconfigured. Plus a number of useful, bespoke tools and addtions to make your Amiga life easier, all with frequent free updates. Installed in a nifty little case with two 'DB9' joystick ports for old style mice and joysticks if you want to use them instead of USB. A $30 Raspberry Pi doesn't come with those things, you have to buy them as extras, plus install and set up everything yourself. Adding those joystick ports might be problematic. But otherwise... yes, like a Raspberry Pi.
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@@another3997 Yep, just a $30 Pi..... with about another $30 worth of cables, SD card etc..... set up in a way that many would not like and would want to format, start again and configure it to their own tastes..... ....so, you are saying this emulation box is for either dim wits that cannot do it themselves (takes like an hour to format an SD card, set up Retroarch or any number of easy to install emulators and copy a heap of ADF's over) or those who don't care enough to want to set it up to their own personal tastes? Gotcha'. For the rest of us, it is simply another cheap and nasty emulation box.
You can build a "true" hardware Amiga, whatever you think that should be these days, and then populate it with the free Kickstart replacement ROMS and install AROS. Or populate it with ROM chips harvested from dead classic Amigas, or licence Kickstart ROMs and Amiga OS from Cloanto. Best not to mention Hyperion and their legally dubious products. 😂 Whichever way, as far as the OS and software are concerned, it's still a true Amiga. But then nobody has ever actually agreed on exactly what a "true" Amiga should be. Everyone argues about all the hardware, ROM and OS combinations for the 1000, 500, 600, 1200, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 4000 etc... and that's before you even contemplate adding any modern options. 😂
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You should have familiarised yourself with it before reviewing. I’m glad I saw this review before I bought one. It doesn’t look ready. I’ll wait for a new version.
Hi russ. Just subscribed . Have not seen your channel before looks good. Think i might order one of these if shipping to australia is not too crazy. Thanks for the review😅
Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
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Interesting. I like the fact that it plays a sound sample of a floppy disk being inserted when you click on the disk icon. The bundled software looks decent - just to let you know - dopus is a file manager application. I wonder if you can install a web browser yet, as then it could be used as a PC, and not just a games machine.
Hi Gavin! Thanks for watching and for your insightful comment! I love the floppy disk sound effect too - it adds to the nostalgic feel. Thanks for the info about dopus being a file manager, I hadn't heard of it before. As for a web browser, I do hope one is planned. If you haven't already, please subscribe to the channel for more retro gaming content and updates. Thanks again for your support!
No details on the hardware, not even on the GS600 wiki; that reeks of emulation, rather than having real MC680x0 hardware, or even an FPGA implementation...
@@AnnatarTheMaia yes indeed. Not able to dig up a board pic in 30 seconds of looking, as I was curious how the joystick posts were done. Otherwise this is not even slightly interesting unfortunately.
It's just a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box with a re-skin and a bit of software and a menu. As far as capability goes there's nothing new. Just use Winuae (free) or get an A500mini. Or get a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box and install the software yourself. Wow, over two hundred bucks. They got this guy hook, line and sinker lol
Nice review, but it seems this is not a very 'polished' product, maybe even a bit unfinished, you chose on-screen keyboard when no real keyboard was connected and on the next screen you can't type in the SSID of your wifi because theres no keyboard, on-screen or physical :-)) sorry, this device is definitely not for me and I must say, that for my purposes, an A500Mini does just as good, and if I wanted to do more, I'd probably just use WinUAE on my pc.
Hi dempseydiscuss! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I understand your concerns about the on-screen keyboard and connectivity issues. I didn't know this at the time of recording the video, but after reading some of the comments, in order to activate the on-screen keyboard, you need to press the fire button on the gamepad. The A600GS does have some quirks, but it also offers a unique experience for those who enjoy classic computing. The A500 Mini and WinUAE are great alternatives for different needs. If you haven't already, please subscribe to the channel for more retro gaming content and updates. I appreciate your feedback and support!
Do you often go around commenting on RUclips, telling everyone about how you don't need something and aren't interested in it? Seems like a pointless exercise... there must be millions of things reviewed on RUclips that you DON'T want. 😁
Was this even needed? I mean we got winuae, Mister, Minimig v1.98itx, AmiCube, Vampire SA... I know it's fairly cheap but why this? I guess more options for more people, you can't really go wrong.
@@ShmupsBR It's an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat running Pi version of an open-source Amiga OS called AROS. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
Yes that would be great, I think RetroGames Ltd have got something coming in Q4 of 2024 and it's rumoured to be a CD32. Fingers crossed it is! Thanks for your comment, I'd really appreciate a subscribe if you haven't already done so 👍🏻
Great video thanks for taking the time to make it. Some follow ups: To activate the main gui on screen keyboard when you enter the text gadgets, press the fire button. When you are in a game you can activate the game keyboard by press select on the gamepad. Wifi SSID scans when you enter the SSID text box with a drop down that auto completes the SSID or lets you choose with a mouse. When you got that mouse pointer freeze in AmiBench, press the 'start' button on the gamepad (or F12 if a real keyboard is attached) and you will bring up the "PAUSE MENU" this allows you to quit gracefully back to the main GUI. The "PAUSE MENU" also offers other functions like inert floppy choose between disk in multi folppy game etc. In the dock just a single click needed.
Thanks for watching and for your detailed feedback! Thanks for the tips for activating the on-screen keyboard and handling the WiFi SSID scans. They'll be handy to know when I power it on next, although I've just bought a USB keyboard for it too. Your advice about the "PAUSE MENU" in AmiBench and single-clicking in the dock will be super helpful for everyone. I'll definitely try these out in my next video. If you haven't already, please subscribe to the channel for more retro gaming content and updates. Thanks again!
i wonder how they expect preorders if they dont even state the price ! mah ! furthermore on their site : Games compatiblity will vary and cannot be guaranteed, very cool indeed then
I'm sorry, but... what hardware is that, exactly? Not an actual 68k, is it, as those aren't produced anymore. If it's a proper FPGA implementation I'd be interested - but if this is just a software emulation running in a shoddy looking box that probably contains a PI or something similar... I really don't know why I would want this. Come to think of it, MiSTer already provides that coveted FPGA implementation...
uhhh... really nothing new to see here are there? Same old stuff in a different theme... What would be more interesting (for me) would be information about how they pull it off, software or hardware emulation, is it running at stock speed, what graphics modes do you have to play with, does it emulate a soundcard and so on... nice video though, thumbs up on that!
Hi Hass.Andersson! Thanks for watching and for your feedback. I understand your curiosity about the technical details. The A600GS uses a combination of hardware and software emulation. It runs at stock speed with various graphics modes and soundcard emulation. I'll dive deeper into these aspects in an upcoming video. If you haven't already, please subscribe to the channel for more in-depth content and updates. Thanks for the thumbs up and your support!
Thank you for putting the video together. We'll done. Unfortunately, there is nothing in this unit that excites me. I have a 9pin adapter already for the mini, the mini comes with a mouse and a SOLID gamepad, not a 3.99 cheap snes pad. The mini looks the part, and this looks boring and yet cumbersome to use. If it were an only choice, it might be good...
Could be a pre-production board? Also, when the reviewer of an Amiga related product doesn't know what Directory Opus is, and can't be bothered to figure out the onscreen keyboard or plug in a real keyboard, I wouldn't place too much faith in their review.
Not for me. I loved my Amiga back in the 90's and had a 500, 500+, 600 and 1200, but, times moved on. Now I just use WINUAE for anything Amiga. Its perfect for me and emulates every Amiga made. Including the CD32 and CDTV for which i pretty much have everything ever made for those consoles, and an almost a complete collection of Amiga software. Sorry, i had to smile at the out of memory error. I thought 4gb would of been plenty. I guess not.
This will be some kind of Raspberry pi type board no doubt. It's too cheap to be fpga, so I'm guessing it's arm based emulation with a horrible custom frontend. Why doesn't it have a proper workbench? Awful. It's not worthy of being called an Amiga.
Yes it's an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat running Pi version of an open-source Amiga OS called AROS. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
to be honest...every Raspberry Pi with Pimiga from Chris has more features, more software, more fun. I dont get the point in buying extra non 68k hardware that looks like a console, without mouse, keyboard. There is plenty of amiberry, UAE and so on if you like having an emulator...😂 I prefer Pimiga to this, its a Pi4 with Amiberry plus plenty of software and you have a full linux computer additionally...😂
The mini is probably worse for performance. The GS is using an Orange Pi Zero but they may be matched in terms of cpu power. Either way it's not powerful enough for Amiga emulation. Would need a Pi4 or Pi5 at least for decent performance. But you could actually get a proper Pi 4 or Pi 5 for a fraction of the cost of this custom thing. The top hat is just for the 9 pin ports to use old style single button Atari joysticks. Nowadays there are many better controllers. Even the unit comes bundled with a re-hashed five dollar SNES chinese clone controller with usb connector lol
I'm just patiently awaiting the Amigi Maxi.....
A600 was my first computer, I got it when I was 9. That machine made me a gamer for over 31 years now. 😂
Looks a nice enough box but why use the A600 name if it has no resemblance to one?
I thought that too, I did wonder why they didn't call it the A300GS
@@RetroGamesRediscovered Because the same reason a ARMIGA is called a ARMIGA so it feels like a AMIGA, they are playing with 30 years of nostalgia ... :)
What should they have called it? I suggest they rename it to Fred or Ermintrude. Or maybe the A3.1415926535? 😂
octamed 8 looks dope. thanx :P
Because personal computers first used DB-25 connectors for their serial and parallel ports, when the PC serial port began to use 9-pin connectors, they were often labeled as DB-9 instead of DE-9 connectors, due to an ignorance of the fact that B represented a shell size.
You are generally better off buying a Mini PC and either setting up LInux and amiberry for auto start or installing PiAmiga on it.
I'm interested, but after searching around I couldn't find much in-depth details for the hardware or Octamed 8.
DOpus is a multipanel file management/directory tool, was really handy for copying files from one location to another. That Clown Picture I think came with one of the Amiga Paint programs and was often used on Public Domain disks. I know I have seen it 1000's of times.
DOpus is still around today for PC, I have it.
If you already have A500 Mini with a DB-9 Adapter, is there any reason at all to get this?
They have the Amistore inbound which could be a game changer to support ondgoing 68k development. Other than that I would say no but if they offer a functioning RS-232 serial port by utilising the internal serial header and make it fully Amiga compatible I'm in!
@@bigd5090 Thanks. I'm not that active with AMIGA, so i don't need the serial. I still own 4 real Amiga's and a CD32 with Promodule.
Amibench in black looks nice.
@@V3ntilator 4 real Amigas do not require an apostrophe. No simple plural EVER does!
@@SpeccyMan Why are you telling me about your personal problem when i have no clue who you are? I'm not a therapist.
@@V3ntilatorWhy are you asking about personal problems when he's telling you about grammatical errors? The apostrophe was used incorrectly. You have "4 Amigas". You use the apostrophe to signify belonging to something. Eg "my Amiga's hard drive".
Does this use the same type of (ARM?) processor etc. as the A500 mini..?
I think it's a similar ARM SoC and I know the graphics library is native ARM.
It's just an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat and custom case. An Orange Pi is not quite fast enough for Amiga emulation. You could get near enough the same thing with a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box. As far as capability goes there's nothing new. Just use Winuae (free) or get an A500mini. Or get a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box and install the software yourself or use a Pi. Wow, over two hundred bucks. They got this guy hook, line and sinker lol
@@g4z-kb7ct Is there any performance difference between A500 Mini and A600GS? (Or is the "speed" the same...)
@@-NiEr The A500mini uses an Allwinner H6 chip which is a ARM Cortex A53 with a turbo clock up to 1.8GHz, released 2019. The Orange Pi uses an Allwinner H3 which is ARM Cortex A7 with a turbo clock up to 1.3GHz, released in 2014. So by those numbers alone the A500mini is better but in real terms there's very little in it since they are both very cheap ARM cpus. But certainly the A500mini has a faster CPU. Also the A500mini can be modified to run whatever you want in terms of other emulators etc. On mine I can run some other consoles like snes, colecovision, 2600/7800 etc.
@@g4z-kb7ct Thank you very much for this info. For "clearing things up" - Strange that an older product has a newer processor! It should be the other way around - I think...
DONT doubleclick on the items on the dock !! click ONE time or it will launch 2 times. Hence the memory problem.
Both DB9s have stopped working on mine already... and even when they were working up didn't work on port 1 😒
Do you mean the first thing you see on screen is the red checkmark logo? There is no firmware display?
"A New Amiga Classic 68k Computer". Erm, hardly.
Well, technically it's a new EMULATED Amiga Classic 68K Computer. A virtual classic Amiga is still an Amiga, and it comes on a NEW custom PCB, in a NEW custom case. So, they're not wrong. 😉 As far as the classic OS and applications are concerned, it's 68K Amiga hardware. Anyway, please be careful what you say... virtual Amigas have feelings too ya know. 😂
Finally I get to see that thing in action. Thank you. I didn't expect much from the device (and its creator) but I'm still underwhelmed.
Thanks for your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah I was a little underwhelmed by it too to be honest. I was hoping for a lot more!
It's not something I would buy, as I already have too many devices to run emulated Amigas on. But at least it's being worked on and updated on a regular basis. It comes with a warranty and support, it's ready to run out the box, it has simple OTA updates, and unlike Hyperion, they don't charge you for the next version of the OS. But I'm guessing your soon to be released product will be much better in every way. 😂
From what I understand, this is a VERY over priced emulator with a horrible interface and a slightly shoddy case. You'd be much, much better off just using a Pi 5 for this kind of emulation.
Totally agree. Though personally I would rather use winuae. Far superior. And I hate that this hasn't got proper workbench, just some proprietary crap they chose to put on here.
@@yogibear2k220You can install and customise any version of the Amiga OS and/or GUI you want. Many modern 'Amiga' products use something other than the ridiculously simple and outdated standard Workbench from back in the day. There are a great many options out there.
@@another3997 sorry but an Amiga Is not an Amiga without workbench. It's just another boring Linux machine.
@@yogibear2k220it has AmiBench which is basically workbench…
It’s based on AROS + their own stuff. They’ve rewritten the data types libraries / system from scratch. These libraries “bang” the ARM metal.
Plus you get a load of updated productivity software with it.
@@yogibear2k220 Having owned several Amigas, I am well aware of what they and the Workbench are. But clearly you don't. Workbench is just the desktop GUI, running on top of Amiga DOS, which in turn requires a Kick-start or compatible ROM image to boot. The vast majority of Amiga games completely bypassed Workbench, yet nobody would claim it's not an Amiga just because it's running Lemmings or Genetic Species without Workbench. And besides, several Workbench replacements existed back in the day... yet they were still Amigas. But the 600GS gives you full access to an Amiga desktop if you want it. And if you don't like it, you can install whatever Amiga OS versions you like, because it runs Linux and the Amiberry emulator. That allows seamless access to the modern hardware and do things 'real' Amigas can't. Out of the box it runs a modified version of AROS 68K under Amiga hardware emulation. AROS is a complete re-implementation of Amiga OS and Workbench, created from the ground up, and it's not bogged down by copyright and patent issues. It's being actively developed and regularly updated. AROS is also the base OS for the Vampire V4 standalone etc. So not boring at all.
What does it deliver that a pi 500 running pimiga with a cheap usb snes/nes/sega controller does not?
I wonder if Bars & Pipes Professional would run on this?
looks like a standart single board arm device, in a nice case and an gpio board with db9 connector. the true value of this device is the software and the nostalgia
Waiting for mine. Hope it get dropped in my direction soon. Thanx for making this. Btw: db9 :)
Thanks for your comment and watching the video. Yes, it's a really impressive little machine!
Two questions that remain unanswered (from my searches): 1) Am I right in assuming that these updated apps can only run on AmiBench? i.e. You can't copy them and use them on a classic Amiga? 2) In what way(s) has Directory Opus 4 been updated? Has it been well and truly bug fixed since it was abandoned, or is it just a new version stamp on old software?
Looks like a cheap Android box using a very old ARM apu. Would have appreciated to see the inside.
Did they mention what sort of CPU and GPU is in this thing ? It sort of looks like a re-branded miniPC of sorts, if I am being honest.
i am sure that this a re-brand arm singleboard computer with an soc like the rk3568
@@hrbt78 This is most likely the case. If this is true, then the roms pack is better value for money than this.
Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
Is this just emulation in a box, like a $30 Raspberry Pi?
Yup, its an Orange Pi on a daughter board (for the 9pin joystick ports). Not sure who the target market is if I'm being honest.
@@wonderdog8895 the target market is suckers with too much money who don't do enough research (lol) to see it's just an Orange Pi Zero and the top hat isn't needed, just use a usb joystick, plenty of retro usb controllers out there now.
Like a "$30" Raspberry Pi but one provided with an HDMI cable, power cable and SD card, complete with preconfigured OS, plus an Amiga emulator, an Amiga OS and several licenced software packages installed and preconfigured. Plus a number of useful, bespoke tools and addtions to make your Amiga life easier, all with frequent free updates. Installed in a nifty little case with two 'DB9' joystick ports for old style mice and joysticks if you want to use them instead of USB. A $30 Raspberry Pi doesn't come with those things, you have to buy them as extras, plus install and set up everything yourself. Adding those joystick ports might be problematic. But otherwise... yes, like a Raspberry Pi.
@@another3997 Yep, just a $30 Pi..... with about another $30 worth of cables, SD card etc..... set up in a way that many would not like and would want to format, start again and configure it to their own tastes.....
....so, you are saying this emulation box is for either dim wits that cannot do it themselves (takes like an hour to format an SD card, set up Retroarch or any number of easy to install emulators and copy a heap of ADF's over) or those who don't care enough to want to set it up to their own personal tastes? Gotcha'.
For the rest of us, it is simply another cheap and nasty emulation box.
Another emulator with orange pi zero w I think 😂
Nothing wrong with using emulation where needed. It's using a native ARM graphics library and they intend to make more components native.
no one's allowed to make another true Amiga because the whole roms licence situation.
Orange seem to always beat Pi for emulation
You can build a "true" hardware Amiga, whatever you think that should be these days, and then populate it with the free Kickstart replacement ROMS and install AROS. Or populate it with ROM chips harvested from dead classic Amigas, or licence Kickstart ROMs and Amiga OS from Cloanto. Best not to mention Hyperion and their legally dubious products. 😂 Whichever way, as far as the OS and software are concerned, it's still a true Amiga. But then nobody has ever actually agreed on exactly what a "true" Amiga should be. Everyone argues about all the hardware, ROM and OS combinations for the 1000, 500, 600, 1200, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 4000 etc... and that's before you even contemplate adding any modern options. 😂
Please, share some benchmarks. Tnx
Thanks for your comment, I will do in the next video. Please subscribe if you haven't already.
Done!👍
Thank you!
Did this ever happen?
Wait so there is no on/off switch on it?😅
There is an on/off switch on the power cable, I just chose to unplug the cable in the video.
The original box had the switch on the power supply, I guess they wanted to stay faithful xD
Like the Raspberry Pi.
Yes, exactly like the Raspberry Pi
That's a very good point!
Do they also sell the controller on its own?
My option is the FPGA system. Some stuff that you open like ppaint I believe are running on linux.
Thanks for the comment! It's great to hear you're considering the FPGA system. It's a fantastic option for those who want the full Amiga experience.
You're absolutely right about some applications running on Linux. This is a great way to access a wider range of software and tools.
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You should have familiarised yourself with it before reviewing. I’m glad I saw this review before I bought one. It doesn’t look ready. I’ll wait for a new version.
@@The-Scots-man build a Mister. Much more useful.
Hi russ. Just subscribed . Have not seen your channel before looks good. Think i might order one of these if shipping to australia is not too crazy. Thanks for the review😅
You know you can do the same thing but faster on a Pi4 or Pi5 at a cheaper price, right? ;-)
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What hardware inside of the machine?
Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
Does it have midi in and out?
That's some Good Stuff right there!
Hi Jason! Thanks for the kind words - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! If you haven't already, please consider subscribing to the channel for more awesome retro gaming content and updates. Your support means a lot!
@@RetroGamesRediscovered Good Stuff might also be what the "GS" stands for ;)
Interesting. I like the fact that it plays a sound sample of a floppy disk being inserted when you click on the disk icon. The bundled software looks decent - just to let you know - dopus is a file manager application. I wonder if you can install a web browser yet, as then it could be used as a PC, and not just a games machine.
Hi Gavin! Thanks for watching and for your insightful comment!
I love the floppy disk sound effect too - it adds to the nostalgic feel. Thanks for the info about dopus being a file manager, I hadn't heard of it before. As for a web browser, I do hope one is planned.
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Can that floppy disk sound be deactivated. It will probably get annoying after a while. - Or can it be changed to a more "pleasant" sound?
No details on the hardware, not even on the GS600 wiki; that reeks of emulation, rather than having real MC680x0 hardware, or even an FPGA implementation...
@@AnnatarTheMaia yes indeed. Not able to dig up a board pic in 30 seconds of looking, as I was curious how the joystick posts were done. Otherwise this is not even slightly interesting unfortunately.
You would think that if it’s emulated the specs would be much better
I don't think AmigaKit have suggested it is anything other than an emulated Amiga.
@@another3997 I don't think AmigaKit has suggested anything at all!
It's just a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box with a re-skin and a bit of software and a menu. As far as capability goes there's nothing new. Just use Winuae (free) or get an A500mini. Or get a cheap twenty dollar Android TV box and install the software yourself. Wow, over two hundred bucks. They got this guy hook, line and sinker lol
nice !!!
Deos the MiDI in/out in octamed 8 work via usb to midi really work?
What's the browser like?
Nice review, but it seems this is not a very 'polished' product, maybe even a bit unfinished, you chose on-screen keyboard when no real keyboard was connected and on the next screen you can't type in the SSID of your wifi because theres no keyboard, on-screen or physical :-)) sorry, this device is definitely not for me and I must say, that for my purposes, an A500Mini does just as good, and if I wanted to do more, I'd probably just use WinUAE on my pc.
Press the fire button on gamepad to activate the onscreen keyboard 🙂
Yep personally I'll stick with my mister
Hi dempseydiscuss! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I understand your concerns about the on-screen keyboard and connectivity issues. I didn't know this at the time of recording the video, but after reading some of the comments, in order to activate the on-screen keyboard, you need to press the fire button on the gamepad. The A600GS does have some quirks, but it also offers a unique experience for those who enjoy classic computing. The A500 Mini and WinUAE are great alternatives for different needs.
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Ah. The perils of not RTFM!
Do you often go around commenting on RUclips, telling everyone about how you don't need something and aren't interested in it? Seems like a pointless exercise... there must be millions of things reviewed on RUclips that you DON'T want. 😁
Was this even needed? I mean we got winuae, Mister, Minimig v1.98itx, AmiCube, Vampire SA... I know it's fairly cheap but why this? I guess more options for more people, you can't really go wrong.
Shame the ones people have ordered are still not delivered but guess i will just have to wait!!
Get a Pi4 with Pimiga, its way more fun I guess...
A real Amiga has a real workbench. This is an interesting project I would like to use Workbench, can be handled by included joypad?
Is this emulation or is it using an FPGA???
Emulation, it seems.
@@ShmupsBR It's an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat running Pi version of an open-source Amiga OS called AROS. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
dopus4 is a file manager type thing
With the budget FPGA MisTer clone around the corner for less cost then this it's worth anyone waiting instead, much better bang for buck.
"DB9" :D
Thank you!
Controller is SNES
I want a mini cd32.
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Interesting device. How easy is it to use Amibench, like can we load up say an Amiga basic package?
BTW thanks for the overview!
Great video thanks for taking the time to make it.
Some follow ups:
To activate the main gui on screen keyboard when you enter the text gadgets, press the fire button. When you are in a game you can activate the game keyboard by press select on the gamepad.
Wifi SSID scans when you enter the SSID text box with a drop down that auto completes the SSID or lets you choose with a mouse.
When you got that mouse pointer freeze in AmiBench, press the 'start' button on the gamepad (or F12 if a real keyboard is attached) and you will bring up the "PAUSE MENU" this allows you to quit gracefully back to the main GUI. The "PAUSE MENU" also offers other functions like inert floppy choose between disk in multi folppy game etc.
In the dock just a single click needed.
Thanks for watching and for your detailed feedback!
Thanks for the tips for activating the on-screen keyboard and handling the WiFi SSID scans. They'll be handy to know when I power it on next, although I've just bought a USB keyboard for it too. Your advice about the "PAUSE MENU" in AmiBench and single-clicking in the dock will be super helpful for everyone.
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Could you use a drawing tablet also! A multi track music recording studio app would be amazing! PD software!
Good Stuff?
i wonder how they expect preorders if they dont even state the price ! mah ! furthermore on their site : Games compatiblity will vary and cannot be guaranteed, very cool indeed then
Why do these mini Amiga consoles always come with gamepads and not joysticks? 🕹️
Amiga games were designed for 🕹️ and thats how we played them.
I played plenty with a keypad back in the day
A good online play people over the internet chess game should be made called 'chess club'! That would be good!
That’s is not an Amiga
I'm sorry, but... what hardware is that, exactly? Not an actual 68k, is it, as those aren't produced anymore. If it's a proper FPGA implementation I'd be interested - but if this is just a software emulation running in a shoddy looking box that probably contains a PI or something similar... I really don't know why I would want this.
Come to think of it, MiSTer already provides that coveted FPGA implementation...
I'm assuming it runs AGA games so the name of it is ridiculous. Why not A1200GS or just straight out AmigaGS?
uhhh...
really nothing new to see here are there?
Same old stuff in a different theme...
What would be more interesting (for me) would be information about how they pull it off, software or hardware emulation, is it running at stock speed, what graphics modes do you have to play with, does it emulate a soundcard and so on...
nice video though, thumbs up on that!
Hi Hass.Andersson! Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
I understand your curiosity about the technical details. The A600GS uses a combination of hardware and software emulation. It runs at stock speed with various graphics modes and soundcard emulation. I'll dive deeper into these aspects in an upcoming video.
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Thank you for putting the video together. We'll done. Unfortunately, there is nothing in this unit that excites me. I have a 9pin adapter already for the mini, the mini comes with a mouse and a SOLID gamepad, not a 3.99 cheap snes pad. The mini looks the part, and this looks boring and yet cumbersome to use. If it were an only choice, it might be good...
It didn't seem like a great experience honestly, lots of unexpected things or not working!
Could be a pre-production board? Also, when the reviewer of an Amiga related product doesn't know what Directory Opus is, and can't be bothered to figure out the onscreen keyboard or plug in a real keyboard, I wouldn't place too much faith in their review.
Not for me. I loved my Amiga back in the 90's and had a 500, 500+, 600 and 1200, but, times moved on. Now I just use WINUAE for anything Amiga. Its perfect for me and emulates every Amiga made. Including the CD32 and CDTV for which i pretty much have everything ever made for those consoles, and an almost a complete collection of Amiga software. Sorry, i had to smile at the out of memory error. I thought 4gb would of been plenty. I guess not.
Please consider editing out constant smacking. It sounds revolting.
This will be some kind of Raspberry pi type board no doubt. It's too cheap to be fpga, so I'm guessing it's arm based emulation with a horrible custom frontend. Why doesn't it have a proper workbench? Awful. It's not worthy of being called an Amiga.
Yes it's an Orange Pi Zero with a custom Amigakit top hat running Pi version of an open-source Amiga OS called AROS. Better to buy a Pi5 or similar at a fraction of the price. The top hat isn't needed, just use a USB controller.
What’s the point of this? We already have RaspBerry pi for a cheap solution
Amiga themed keyboard required for authentic feels.
to be honest...every Raspberry Pi with Pimiga from Chris has more features, more software, more fun. I dont get the point in buying extra non 68k hardware that looks like a console, without mouse, keyboard. There is plenty of amiberry, UAE and so on if you like having an emulator...😂 I prefer Pimiga to this, its a Pi4 with Amiberry plus plenty of software and you have a full linux computer additionally...😂
And folks are slagging off the A500 Mini.... lol.. A500 Mini is premium compared to this
The mini is probably worse for performance. The GS is using an Orange Pi Zero but they may be matched in terms of cpu power. Either way it's not powerful enough for Amiga emulation. Would need a Pi4 or Pi5 at least for decent performance. But you could actually get a proper Pi 4 or Pi 5 for a fraction of the cost of this custom thing. The top hat is just for the 9 pin ports to use old style single button Atari joysticks. Nowadays there are many better controllers. Even the unit comes bundled with a re-hashed five dollar SNES chinese clone controller with usb connector lol
Andy's Blues made my ears hurt. It's either a serious bug or whoever made that OctaMed song is tone deaf.
Wow that really was slow moving between menus in Amibench, my 500 is faster
Your Amiga 500 does not run a Workbench in 1080p 32bit
Well, I open source Amiga/AmigaOne Not a good start.
The joypad looks like it's made from chocolate box inlay plastic, it really looks like a pile of pap.
needs to be housed in a keyboard.
better off just using your emulator..
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