Director Terry Gilliam: “We’re living in a time where irony is not recognized anymore”
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- "When we can’t distinguish between hate and humour, we are fucked! And that’s my feeling about life."
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"No, I'm making fun of humanity, and we are an absurd species of creatures." God bless you, Terry Gilliam, I love you!
A brilliant line indeed.
Absurd 💯!
I agree with him
I can't believe this genius has gone most of his career struggling to find funding for his films. Thank you to the late George Harrison for bankrolling Time Bandits.
It happened to Ken Russell too. At the end of his career, he was using a hand-held video camera in his back garden.
Money makers don't see the genius, they see the $$ and nothing past their noses for that matter.
12 monkeys was absurdly good
@@Kazekoge101 yes, considering he didn't write it.
Harrison bankrolled Life Of Brian if I'm correct
Gilliam is one of the universe’s greatest dreamers and so much more than “that American animator from Monty Python” He’s long been amongst my favourite film directors with the likes of 12 Monkeys, Brazil, Time Bandits and the hugely underrated duo of The Fisher Kung and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. The fact he struggles to fund his films whilst millions of dollars are thrown at lame remakes, reboots and other tepid shite is, quite simply, a fucking tragedy. We need more minds like Terry’s …
I suspect the difference is not the content of the move. Producers care very little about that. I think it's whether or not the director bows and scrapes to the producer and agrees to their ridiculous modifications to the script, cast, location, etc. I can't imagine Terry G doing that and so he is probably seen as a 'difficult' director.
Thank you for articulating what I was thinking while watching this short clip. I think that his lack of funding comes in large part from basic envy -- Gilliam is a magnificently effective story-telling genius ... and for this, those lesser than him, offer no light on his success.
Thank goodness George Harrison helped them with The Life of Brian.
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen was my favorite film when I was a little girl in the 80's alongside The Dark Chrystal, Time Bandits, The Secret of Nihm, Labyrinth and Monty Python films.
Thank goodness my father had impeccable taste in cinema.
Gilliam and Python are more important than one can recognise. Tyranny is terrified of humour. Because humour is humanity, it unites us. And evil people want a disunited world.
Source?
@@hb8213Source of what??
@markmawhinney4440 Just wondering if any data exists to support the claims made in the OP. Maybe a survey of so-called tyrants and "evil people"? Or maybe OP pulled a bunch of lame platitudes out their ass to gas up a comedian they like.
@@hb8213There's nothing in that statement that requires a source lmao. It's just an opinion dude, everyone has one
@@ufoash440 Opinions about evil & tyranny based on personal mythology instead of facts should not be taken seriously.
Just saw John Cleese in person (he’s not dead yet!). Anyway, he spoke of the importance of being able to laugh at yourself, and how we ALL need to get back to that. Monty Python are more important today than they ever were. Cheers!
He will be soon, he's very old.
That's actually the last thing we need right now.
@@folksurvivalSo everyone should be self-righteous and full of themselves?
@@shoujahatsumetsu Nope, I never said that.
He's not wrong. Irony is treated like hate speech from some of these idiots who forget that humour is one of our best weapons against hate.
He's so spot on. I'm a writer in Hollywood. I've written for some big-name comics, screen and teleplays, even some jokes for the stage. Yes, millennials and GenZers don't understand irony and they are leading the charge for the humorless.
see i dont get this, because gen z and millenials have created more ironic and more offensive content that has ever existed in the form of memes, video edits and sketches. Yeah its not on TV or whatever but it exists on such a magnitude that it would take you years just to go through it all. people are just out of touch with internet culture. Big tech and the media has been trying to suppress it for years now @@angusorvid8840
… Until the humor insults you. Then you turn into a hypocrite.
@@b1crusade384 Well I like a joke as much as the next person... BUT
@@b1crusade384 Everyone has a right to be offended.
It is when you weaponize that offense it can be a problem.
when Terry described his script, I can't believe the interviewer didn't follow up with, "So it's a documentary?"
Something John Cleese would ask.
@@hanknorris5642 😂😂😂exactly! God bless the Pythons 🐍❤️
Terry demonstrates how we can save ourselves a whole lot of grief by beginning at acceptance.
Irony is not recognized and critics are not accepted. Everybody thinks he's born perfect the way he is, nobody has anything to learn, nobody makes mistakes. We all take ourselves too seriously
Welcome to 2024! 🎉
@@AvaAdore-wx5ggYeah, the problem is it's more like a parasitic need for affirmation. Animals consume - it's the only way they propagate.
LOL. You don't live in reality at all. It's hilarious how out of touch and deluded old people are. You are not oppressed.
We all know everything 🥴
This interview clip should be seen by more people.. Time Bandits and Brazil are timeless classics..
Yes! And Fisher King.
@@FannyPlusvi The Fisher King is absolutely my favourite. Now that's about humanity. It's perfect. Take that away and we're no longer human.
Yes, including ELON MUSK
As was 12 Monkeys
One of my favourite filmmakers, genuinely visionary and witty and visually sumptuous!
Whenever ideological thinking dominates, irony dies. It means the populace feels threatened and therefore any hint of danger from wrongthink is taken seriously.
WHY has irony died though? Irony was in vogue from the mid 80s to about 2010, but then the world started falling apart. When that happens people look to others for help and support and that leads them into ideological tribalism. To ignore the cause of ideological thinking dominating is to ignore the problem - ie, everyone is afraid for the future for the first time in a long while.
Our Canadian government is banning certain Southpark episodes from Canadians. The left are totalitarian and people don't realize it yet still.
@@ScentsofStyle99I would argue that absurdist humor could cure that but what happens is narcissist demagogues seize the opportunity to grab power and worsen "ideological tribalism" as you aptly put.
@@ScentsofStyle99 The world isn't falling apart. Or rather, no more than what it ever has. The change is the Internet. Clickbait journalism, instant news, algorithms tailored to your ideological bias, *social media*. That's what's changed. The perception that the world is worse is being algorithmically thrust upon us in a torrent of negative and biased information.
It's a sad freaking state of affairs when an artist like Terry Gilliam is not getting the money to make his film while a rubbish superhero/ action sequel is getting commissioned every damn hour.
You can say that again!
Studios are owned by corporations so Hollywood is essentially Wall Street. It's just about balance sheets, not art or quality. Those days are long gone.
It is, but it's also entirely predictable. The people that put money into those things aren't looking to make art. They're looking to turn a number into a bigger number. That's it. I remember a comedian talking about their role in comedy clubs. They said (heavily paraphrased) they weren't there to make people happy, or to do a genius set, or to speak truth to power, or any of that. They were there to sell chicken wings. That was the horrible truth at the core of the business. And at the core of most entertainment, as an industry.
@@mahna_mahna finally, someone who understands. I worked in development and production at Warner for about 15 years and when I hear people discussing it all as if it's some artistic or emotional business J laugh. It's Wall Street with prettier people. It's solely about asses in seats and spreadsheets. That's it. They don't care about diversity or equality, they just dive into whatever trend they believe will bring in the greatest ROI. That's it. Nothing deeper. Studios used to toss low budget vanity projects to good boys and girls who made them a ton of money first, like a dog treat. That's pretty much over with since the studios became adjuncts to corporate monoliths. Want better movies made? Don't show up to or watch the crap and get out there to see the good ones. That's all they respond to.
@@mahna_mahna Yeah it's the obvious consumer corporate dynamics. Earlier it was a bit less machine- like but now everything has been replaced by this unrelenting system. My question is, does the audience taste shape the business or vice versa because as long as you keep feeding and hyper promoting the formula product they will never know better.
Love all your work Terry ! After this interview I really admire you !
What an intelligent man. And his sincere gratitude towards the interviewer when he said that he liked his film makes him very humble as well.
I wish Mr Gilliam great health to be able to stay on this planet as long as possible!
The guy is a genius! 12 Monkeys and Brazil are favourites! Hope that you get another film out Sir!
I still laugh riotously at their sketches and will often take in one of their films! If you can't laugh at these many thrilling and tremendously entertaining things with which they have all blessed us, then the problem is with you! Their expertise has been genius for almost sixty years! I mean "Bring out your dead!", The Silly Olympiad, Queen Victoria Handicap, Argument, Dead Parrot, Spanish Inquisition, Fish Slapping Dance, Crunchy Frog, Every Sperm is Sacred, SPAM, The Black Knight, "How shall we fuck off, oh Lord?", The Ministry of Silly Walks, "Blessed are the Cheesemakers.", Knights of Ni, "We have found a witch!", and on and on. Majestically hilarious all!
🤣😂😉😎
I wonder WHERE that fish did go?!
@@warlockofwordschannel7901 That went wherever I did go! 😂😉😎
The fish slapping dance is one of my faves, just totally "silly" and forever entertaining. Plus anything involving the wearing of pith helmets and Bombay bloomers, is a good sign of imminent goofyness and guffaws!
Mr. Gilliam is one of humanities treasures. As much as I love all the creators of Monty Python and the works of their lives and appreciate their opinions, I do find many of them have dark opinions on humanity and where we have come to. We are all just trying. I love how Mr. Gilliams description of humanity as an absurd species. We are. We have the most prodigious intellects of all species we know of. Yet we have not come to terms with our existence.
I look forward to any works done by Mr, Gilliam and all the creators of Monty Python. Except for of course Graham. That's asking too much.
Don’t forget Terry Jones!
@@blueabattoir Yeah I was heartbroken when Terry Jones passed, especially with the condition he dealt with.
We are suffering from irony deficiency...
Another film by Terry Gilliam? We desperately need this guy to keep making movies.
His comments on A.I. and technology are exactly what a colleague and I have been saying as we watch it eroding the shores of our voice over careers.
I'm sorry to hear that, matey. Hope you're doing ok. It's affecting my illustration industry too.
@@oneworldfamily I think illustrators and designers are being hit harder. I recently had the PR department of a major entertainment studio asking me information about A.I. image generation because they wanted to work on concept art ideas before handing them off to designers.
We've been fortunate in that games, and film and series dubbing still require actors and script adaptors, and we've been lucky to see that growing with the studios we work with, however the e-learning and training courses that filled in the gaps disappeared almost overnight. It reached a point where the ratio of quality to cost reached a level clients could excuse, and for things like employee training they have a captive audience anyway, so it doesn't matter if it sounds slightly off.
On the other side, we've been working for 2 years with one client who uses our performance to drive their voice generation, changing our voices. I've heard from the editors that the end results are a bit flatter than the original, and that some are better than others. It seems that actors who adjust the way they speak for each character get better separation in the final version. It allows for a small pool of actors to dub an entire series making it more efficient and providing more hours for those who make the cut. Obviously for people who aren't chosen it's not a positive.
There have been many technologies we do not use as a society.
We do have the ability to say “no we don’t want this.”
I love this guy and been a huge fan for 50 years but I disagree with him about having to accept AI and technology. We don't have accept anything that is dangerous. Humanity keeps accepting and tolerating, while we watch whatever it is kill us.
AI will shortly be affecting the music industry too. Feeling you buddy.
This is literally what i needed right now. Thank you Terry for being a real human being.
Please refer to her as Loretta. She's a black lesbian 🖤 in transition. Love 🖤
Terry is a genius. I loved Python as a kid but my favourite parts were all Terry's animations. The way had made them and how they came across in real time watching them was magic. You don't get animators these days with all the software produce that level of quality!
I disagree with the quality comment, but you definitely dont find as much absurdity in animation and that medieval style, though. Felix Colgrave is an example, and Guldies is another.
Yep ... Gilliam is interesting ... and his films are so much more important than that unfunny forced English 'comedy' ... I can't stand Monty Python. 😂 ... and there's also something about the fans who go on about them that really irritate me. Especially if they're American.
@Fiveash-Art brit humor is very intellectual and dry. I think Python is brilliant, but Gilliams career has offered more emotional depth.
As an American I think it’s background. My grandparents were from UK , my mother, cousins. So I prefer British comedy!!
It’s nice to hear a cool and funny guy talk like terry , there’s either a shortage of them these days or they are overlooked completely because they don’t fit the current weirdo narrative of the world these days . Bravo Terry for staying cool
I don’t know how deep he dove into YT, but irony is so alive, we’ve developed the idea of layering irony.
Such an awesome guy. Brazil is one my favourite movies of his, and the movie of my childhood.
"Brazil", "The Fisher King" and "12 Monkeys" are masterpieces in the art of film making.
And I am sure his Don Quixote would have also been stellar.
Brazil...what a wako of a movie. He truly captured what is a fever nightmare.
It's absolutely criminal that this mad genius who's given me so much joy as a child and now as an adult, cannot get funding for doing the very thing he was put on this earth to do. If I ever win the lottery I would give him however much he would need.
It's because he's deemed a 'British' director, who hates the Hollywood scene.
In the US we can use the decline and eventual death of Mad Magazine as a barometer for our inability to properly value satire and irony. It has been happening for 30 years or so, but certainly today the coffin has all the nails it needs to be permanently shut. I don't think we can blame the current generation of youth for the entire collapse. Consider the lack of interest in satire of previous generations for creating the conditions that led to it. What happened over the years to the adolescent males that demanded the skepticism that Mad encouraged? They weren't shamed away from it.
Is MAD magazine gone????
I hope his film project gets funded. Great idea for a film. Great point in general. Thank god there are individuals like TG providing humor and perspective to all the craziness.
Yes. But now the likes of the BBC want to take it away?? It's even worse in the US. But they can still have a laugh in Germany and elsewhere.
Something about his movies makes me sit and take notice. I love the cinema of Gilliam
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Still a legend Terry
The world might not request more groups of 6 white males right now … bit we could ceirtainly use a few more Terry Gilliams!
Irony is not recognized because younger generations do not even know the definition of the word. Thank you Alanis Morissette.
Words of great wisdom and truth! Thank you Mr. Gilliam!
One of the best lessons he has learned in life is "Don't work with the Weinsteins." A lesson he learned after working with the Weinsteins.
The Pythons used to kill what ever was considered current trends of the time with their intelligent humor.😂 that's why they are legends
@@Fiveash-Artthey're brilliant, you just don't get the jokes. 😂
Gilliam's joke in Germany was an example of absurdist humour, not irony. Now there's irony.
WHAT A BRILLIANT MAN ... just LOVE that guy and his films ... WHAT A LEGEND !
well, if he MEANS watching former leftists turn into anti-immigrant weirdos, he's RIGHT
everytime some joker whines abut "drag story hour" i point to MONTY PYTHON and I WIN
Not just irony, we can't satirize anymore because this current generation cannot see past the surface.
Comedy today is: Pull funny faces, make funny noises, stare directly at camera whilst doing so.
Basically today it's "jangle the keys in front of the baby's face" because IQs seem to have dropped extremely sharply in the past 6-7 years... and sadly, those with that IQ have the power to break the careers of geniuses.
There will be a rebound. I'm sure of it. The world goes around in circles. New generations rebelling against what came before, that sort of thing.
Get off my LAWN!!!!! 🤬
We used to be a society of Monty Pythons...
Now we're all swirling around in the Skibidi Toilet
There are people who watched Monty Python when it first aired who are just as clueless and devoid of humor or nuance.
“Pulling funny faces, stare into the camera”
You’re inadvertently just describing boomer humour lol, I don’t think a lot of modern comedies really do that.m
God bless Terry Gilliam - man, he is so needed STILL!!!!!
Really authentic person and great filmmaker
Good questions and responses in this interview.
Irony is recognized, but people are narcissists who choose to take offence and portray themselves as a victim at every opportunity
Very wise man - love him!
My angry old uncle told me that Monty Python was my downfall! Thanks unk, I'm proud to fall so low! 👍🏻
Absolute Brilliance
He's a legend.
Your background music is cruel and unusual punishment.
He is a genius those animations fkn priceless
We should listen to our predecessors. Despite our youth, our ego, our vigor or outright contempt - They've been there and already trodden the same path many times.
Let in the old. Let in the new ❤
"So from now on, please call me Loretta" 😅Classic response. And nothing could be truer than the comment that we are an "absurd species of creatures!"
Terry ! Thanks for this interview and for all Your work and for hours of smile that You give us for free :)!
So, THANK YOU !
Greetings from Czech
A genius that refuses to genuflect at the alter if madness. A visionary that is never not interesting.
Before social media I didn’t know how many people are humourless, perpetually offended and unable to understand context and message.
They really are like the NPC meme
I still remember the episode of "Yes Minister" where he explains that they joined the EU in order to wredk it. Similar approach here, the BBC embraces "diversity" in such a manner as to discredit the very concept.
Irony requires perspective, we’ve got the “bundles of reflexes” in spades instead.
Dear Gilliam. Sarcasm or black humor isn't "not recognized"...is forbidden!
Thank God we still have the Pythons
Is there a longer version of the interview available?
It's way harder to make comedy when the audience has no sense of humor.
People younger than you do have a sense of humour, it just changes over time. Your parents probably thought Monty Python sucked-and said it was the death of comedy or whatever-so the cycle goes on
@@jpc2470nah, my grandparents thought Python was hilarious, and they were born in 1920. The issue now is humorless twats everywhere. People are professionally offended, no time for humor.
I'm writing a bit about the death of subtlety, context, nuance and implied meanings. Irony is lost on morons also.
Wise man we need in this absurd world ❤
Monty Python is a very unique comedy that couldn’t be made today. Some people won’t accept jokes anymore, so as a result humour has nullified, censored and monitors. I wish there were more shows that could teach us how to laugh again.
Thank you Loretta.
So we appear still to have the sense of humour in Germany that Britain has lost.
no, it's apples to oranges; a crowd of people who gathered to see Terry on one hand, the bureaucratic elite and the angry activists on social media on the other
Irony, politeness, consideration, a knowledge of how the world works, ....
Human beings are a failed species.
I was working in Highgate a few years back...Every lunch time we (2 of us) sat in the little park to eat a butty we got from the deli across the road and feed the pigeons...One day as I was walking back to site Terry was walking the opposite direction hunched shoulders like it's raining but it isn't...He was on a mission with his 'do not disturb' aura locals all know about...There was no one else around...As a Python and Gilliam fan I want to talk to my hero, I want an autograph, I want to tell him 'thank you', I wanted to shout 'We've got lumps of it round the back!'...even if I had got an 'FU!'...I want to make him smile...I said nothing...One of the toughest things to do as a fan...and...I still regret it
Anymore I am convinced this world needs The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Listen to this man!
If he grows out his beard a little more, he'll just be the bridge keeper from Holy Grail.
Blue!
Those that don't understand don’t understand on purpose
When he was asked if he was worried about technology, I thought for sure he'd say "you got to stop worrying and love the bomb."
There is a whimsical s-f short story titled "God is an Iron". (I don't remember who wrote it. I read it back in the 80s)
The premise is: If a surgeon does surgery, a felon commits felony, and so on, then God must be an Iron. Even though I read the story nearly 40yrs ago, that lone has stuck with me. It's quite short, Like 5-6 pages at the most, to the best of my memory. It's worth a read. I'm gonna see if I can find
more info about the story.
EDIT:
I got the timeline wrong. I guess it was written in 2002, by Spider Robinson.
"Since he began writing professionally in 1972, *Spider Robinson* has won 3 Hugo Awards, a Nebula Award, the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer, Locus Awards for Best Novella and Best Critic, and numerous other awards. Twenty-four of his 30 books are still in print, in 10 languages. ... Google Books
Originally published: 2002
Somebody give Terry the money! (and have a bit of extra earmarked if he asks for more halfway through the production please. ;) )
What’s with the campy/cute background music? Did someone mistake an interview with one of the greatest comedic minds in history with a cute kitten video?
Patience be with us all.
Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python by two TV stations --WOR and WLVI.
1:18 - Wow!
I still remember when Terry was banned from Facebook for speaking out about Amber Turd’s character.
So I don’t suppose the skit about gay hairdressers’ climb up Mt. Everest will be shown on tv anytime soon. It is hilarious! My husband is still spending about $60-70 a month for Dish and it’s 95% crap. Even if we were willing to pay extra $$ each for streaming channels I doubt much improvement considering the woke ‘mass formation psychosis’ in the world😢. Luckily Python hasn’t been removed from the internet.
They also want to control what I think is funny; I'll laugh at whatever I goddamn please. I can determine for myself what I find to be funny. Do you know why a government full to the brim with the Dark Triad personality hates your laughter? It's because laughter is the sound of freedom, confidence, and, most importantly, resistance.
There might not be too many psychopaths in higher positions, but there are certainly many narcissists and machiavellians in those positions. Those come a dime a dozen. You see them *EVERYWHERE.*
Talking sbout irony, I remember whe he was invited to some film festival or cultural event in Ukraine and said how much he admired Russian culture and how happy he was to be in Russia. This was before the war but just after the annexation of Crimea. You could hear flies buzzing around. 😅😂
Am I mistaken or did the interviewer take issue with Terry's mention of Elon Musk? I mean, really? Isn't that the very type of intolerant behavior that we're all talking about?
old man yells at cloud. people who are upset by the fact that comedy ages should probably not be comedians.
you want to tell me that irony is dead when memes like "why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food" spread like wildfire? irony just evolved, because the once outré sensibilities of folks like the monty python crew BECAME the mainstream and got old.
what's really ironic is that it's my fellow "trannies" and "snowflakes" who wind up the most irony poisoned people you'll meet out in the world. nothing curdles your sense of humor quite like having a giant target on your back constantly. not that terry gilliam has ever spoken to one, or seemingly anyone under the age of 30 in the past decade.
quite a messiah complex for the guy who directed life of brian
And you're telling this to Euronews. That's brilliantly ironic.
Anyone noticed that Terry used the name Loretta? Shall we vote on whether Loretta has the RIGHT to have a baby?
I am afraid Monty Python may end up being the high water mark of creative freedom in the West.
Somehow some folks never received the irony gene......
Cripes, I'd almost forgotten what an intelligent, sensible filmmaker sounds like. There are so few of them left these days.
Glad to know he still preserves his sanity after all 😊
Diversity doesn’t mean that every single show needs to have mixed races. Sometimes if it works out that way, sometimes one particular, etc. this is all ridiculous now.
Don't really need to hear Terry Gilliam lecturing me about how we've lost our sense of humor when he says Trump sounds like Hitler and he sees no irony in that statement. Even John Cleese can see humor and occasionally wisdom from people he doesn't agree with.
Interesting clip, but I can do without background music in interviews.
Nothing is funny unless it inappropriate, absurd, too early [Edit: or too late].
So few people know what irony is, any more.
His statement about AI is so needed. Yes, it’s here, you cannot change that. You can only learn to adapt.
You mean like being suspended for harassment as a form of sanctioned harassment?
I’d like a Brazil VR game
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