I learned a lot from all the problems you faced and dealt with. Mr. Murphy was clearly hanging out in your shop, because I can't imagine much more going wrong. Thanks for the reminder not to buy steel on eBay!
You used to talk about what you were doing, not now that’s OK we can see what happens. It’s never a lost effort, you’re always learning. Thank you Sir for this opportunity to learn.
Sometimes when he's either not feeling well, or if he just needs to put out content on his channel he won't accompany the video with a voice over. Doesn't happen too often, but it does happen.
Hard on the blade. He often cuts them open while they are still hot. Heat will kill the bandsaw blade. Or he has to wait for it to cool and thus loose valuable time. Then there is the scale that will wear down the teeth faster too. Probably cheaper the way he does it
Wonder if anyone has ever tried building up welding beads (all one direction, or crisscross), just welding beads and beads, until they had enough material to make a Damascus blade?
I had a horrible feeling one of those non 52100 bearings was going to balls it up somehow. IT had promise though the rest of the patterning looked good although the bearings stuffed up the crosses by not compressing much at all...Did you get your money back from the bearing supplier atleast Ah thats a rotten shame but all power to your ability to make it work. Perhaps a shop knife of shame box where useable knives go to be used for horrible things you wouldn't want to use a good one for. Again well done for finishing it ..those weird bearings could do some interesting damascus if you knew they were in there from the start Well done and thanks for sharing.
Thank you for showing us this. With the prices of materials being so high. The alternate sourced like Ebay, Amazon and the like aren't always reliable. Personally, I'll be giving the bearings I just ordered a quick dip in ferric to help weed out any non 52100 that slip in.
i bet if you collaborate with a machinist you could mill very detailed pockets into solid stock and then back fill them with a contrasting powder and forge weld. ill bet you could even heat it to welding heats in a ceramics kiln and beat the crap out of it too. I feel like this technical concept has a lot of merit.
Seen something like this done on a reproduction wulfbert (probably spelt that wrong). Sword was forged, the lettering was cnc cut into it, then rought iron was used to fill them in. Gave a real nice contrast and made a beautiful sword!
I 100% see where you were going with the pattern. Please try it again! Probably would want to add an extra 50% more steel off the bat. Those patterns just get eaten up by scale in a hurry.
Seax's were a product of circumstance when a sword broke. Rather than completely toss it out a large knife was often made from what was left behind, and though I'm not saying that this would be a good idea for a finished commercial product, forging a short sword then breaking it on purpose, and THEN crafting a seax from it would tell this weapon's full story.
@@DH-xw6jpagreed, it's a theory, but no proof. Most swords of the age had two sides and the seax is a wide knife. Kinda hard to cut a spine for a knife from a double edged sword. The Britains did have broken back long seax's though and it was unique to them. 24-30 inches and is likely where the confusion lies with people thinking they were made from broken swords.
@@Jermz1979 long saxes are not just an anglo-saxon thing at all. Merovingians, alamannians and langobards had them before and were way more widespread, as well as scandinavian long knives (even though they are not really considered seaxes)
Hope ya will try it out again, even if it didn't turn out right, its a learning experience. Hope ya try it again. I love your videos, ya share when things don't go as planned too. Thst helps all of us know we arent alone when things don't quite go our way
I know how you feel , I made a mosaic katana and one of the first welds didn’t take , unfortunately it didn’t show up until it came out of the etch , $200+ down the drain and over 120hrs maybe more
So liquid molten hot steel would have no separations or the laminations so if you wanna weld steel, you have to get it super hot can’t be pounding on any dark red steel and hoping to laminate it
the video is true to the adage "if you don't have anything good to say then don't say anything at all".....also you need an exorcism for the gremlins in your shop...
Quite an amount of adversity on this one. Good to see, that you still make a video of the process. I wish you better luck next time - hopefully your supplier of bearings labels hus products better, so that you can at least avoid that hurdle. ☀️💪👍💪☀️.
haha, yep it was sort of doomed from the beginning. I bought 52100 bearings, and they were packaged and labeled as such, and most of the were 52100 obviously. Somehow some others got mixed in before I got them... but oh well.
Oh man. I can imagine the choice words when you realized what had happened. I'm so sorry man - way to persevere though! Those bearings weren't from one of the "official" suppliers were they? (auction find perhaps?)
@@FireCreekForge I can image! Stay strong brother. You've stepped everything you do up by a thousand times this year. Bound to be some roadblocks! Hard times make strong men 👍
I noticed you quenched and annealed before you ground to rough shape. Doesn't that make it harder to grind and wear your belts out faster? I'm not knocking, you do great work.
Shame it failed, but I trust you'll...forge ahead. (Ba Dum Tish). BTW - any chance at a raindrop one for a future vid? Always loved that pattern... Either way, keep up the good work!
@@FireCreekForge blame the ever increasing glut of voiced manga (and other) "real life" tales flooding youtube friend, those of us hardcore watchers will always follow true artists like you
@@DH-xw6jp more like the glut of comic vids flooding RUclipss algorithm make finding anything useful or interesting a real chore without deliberately searching for something... I don't know when it started for me, but I've blocked hundreds of revenge tale, comic vid and more channels, but for every one I block, it seems five more appear 😭🤬
I love watching this stuff on RUclips but. Cutting and grinding metal without gloves on is a really silly idea. Sorry, but I don't care how much experience you have. Real bad way to learn a lesson
Well the Ulfberht sword has crosses on it, so I don't think it's too far out of the realm of possibility. But I'm not claiming to try and make an historical replica or anything.
A cross doesn’t necessarily mean Christianity or religion, the nazi swastika symbol was used by many groups of people to signify different things, it was just the nazis that made it notorious.
To be pagan means you have many gods. They had Odin and Thor and Loki and Freya just to name a few. So how can they be godless when they had more gods than the monotheistic religions of today?
@@JohnSmith-gs4lw so that makes them godless heathen's? The cross symbol is far older than the Christian religion. They just adopted it. Either way they weren't godless words have meaning.
I never said crosses weren’t older than the Christian religion. Obviously they crucified Jesus on a cross so it existed before Jesus, if that makes you feel better. I also don’t need to defend your strawman arguments against me; you made that argument, not me. Cheese and rice! Who would have thought Vikings would have such delicate sensibilities? Sorry to offend. Don’t cancel me or anything. Don’t worry, you’re on a Google platform. The only people who catch shade out here are Christians and Jews.
The fact that you post everything is hugely inspiring to me. You're a masterful steelsmith and watching the occasional failures is satisfying
Glad to hear it. That is life sometimes
I don't think they are failures. He is experimenting
I learned a lot from all the problems you faced and dealt with. Mr. Murphy was clearly hanging out in your shop, because I can't imagine much more going wrong. Thanks for the reminder not to buy steel on eBay!
You used to talk about what you were doing, not now that’s OK we can see what happens. It’s never a lost effort, you’re always learning.
Thank you Sir for this opportunity to learn.
Sometimes when he's either not feeling well, or if he just needs to put out content on his channel he won't accompany the video with a voice over.
Doesn't happen too often, but it does happen.
@@paykore45
That’s fine with me, just different, I’ve watched enough of his videos to understand what he’s doing.
This was a cup of tea away from being a shurap video, and I mean this as a great compliment. I like watching you forge.
Seeing the mistakes is just as entertaining as the successes!
I was really excited to see how this was gonna turn out, but this was cool to see the process anyways.
Yeah man
“Even an adult, experienced monkey sometimes unsuccessfully jumps from a tree” (c) China
Best regards from Russia
Learning is dang tough sometimes! Love what you do. Can't wait to see what you do next.
Yeah it can be for sure! Thanks for watching!
I hate that it happened to you, but I'm glad you showed us.
Love the dust bag on your height gauge! I’m lucky to have a clean room for mine!
I would wonder if every project came out perfect...
Still better than I could do.
You do such clean work and it's a pleasure to watch.
Loved the ASMR approach.
Thank you!
This is awesome !!! I love this stuff !!! I can't wait to see the final results !!! Good luck!!!
Man, the frustration was all over your face on the etch. We've all been there.
For sure
Your work is always impress 👏👏
A bad day in the forge beats a good day in the office, still sucks when nuthin' goes your way.
What rod do you use for welding the blanks?
Odd question but what do you do with all the metal from the canisters you cut off your billets?
Can't see this staying together
Good video, You cutting the steel in half by pushing your hands toward the band saw blade, wow, brace soul you are. Stay safe
When it comes time to remove the metal casing you welded, why don't you cut off the ends with your bandsaw?
Hard on the blade. He often cuts them open while they are still hot. Heat will kill the bandsaw blade. Or he has to wait for it to cool and thus loose valuable time. Then there is the scale that will wear down the teeth faster too. Probably cheaper the way he does it
Wonder if anyone has ever tried building up welding beads (all one direction, or crisscross), just welding beads and beads, until they had enough material to make a Damascus blade?
interesting idea. i would imagine it would depend on what filler you use
I had a horrible feeling one of those non 52100 bearings was going to balls it up somehow.
IT had promise though the rest of the patterning looked good although the bearings stuffed up the crosses by not compressing much at all...Did you get your money back from the bearing supplier atleast
Ah thats a rotten shame but all power to your ability to make it work.
Perhaps a shop knife of shame box where useable knives go to be used for horrible things you wouldn't want to use a good one for.
Again well done for finishing it ..those weird bearings could do some interesting damascus if you knew they were in there from the start
Well done and thanks for sharing.
Of all the Viking weapons you could have made, you made an Anglo Saxon one.
Call this one, Spot 😁
Haha, totally
Thank you for showing us this. With the prices of materials being so high. The alternate sourced like Ebay, Amazon and the like aren't always reliable. Personally, I'll be giving the bearings I just ordered a quick dip in ferric to help weed out any non 52100 that slip in.
i bet if you collaborate with a machinist you could mill very detailed pockets into solid stock and then back fill them with a contrasting powder and forge weld. ill bet you could even heat it to welding heats in a ceramics kiln and beat the crap out of it too. I feel like this technical concept has a lot of merit.
Seen something like this done on a reproduction wulfbert (probably spelt that wrong). Sword was forged, the lettering was cnc cut into it, then rought iron was used to fill them in. Gave a real nice contrast and made a beautiful sword!
@@JacobE-23 sounds awesome I always did think the pattern welding potential between smiths and machinists was very high.
I 100% see where you were going with the pattern. Please try it again!
Probably would want to add an extra 50% more steel off the bat. Those patterns just get eaten up by scale in a hurry.
Seax's were a product of circumstance when a sword broke. Rather than completely toss it out a large knife was often made from what was left behind, and though I'm not saying that this would be a good idea for a finished commercial product, forging a short sword then breaking it on purpose, and THEN crafting a seax from it would tell this weapon's full story.
Interesting
Not at all.
The handle construction is radically different. The seax (or sea ax) has always been a heavy utility knife, not a broken sword.
@@DH-xw6jpagreed, it's a theory, but no proof. Most swords of the age had two sides and the seax is a wide knife. Kinda hard to cut a spine for a knife from a double edged sword.
The Britains did have broken back long seax's though and it was unique to them. 24-30 inches and is likely where the confusion lies with people thinking they were made from broken swords.
This is totally false
@@Jermz1979 long saxes are not just an anglo-saxon thing at all. Merovingians, alamannians and langobards had them before and were way more widespread, as well as scandinavian long knives (even though they are not really considered seaxes)
Hope ya will try it out again, even if it didn't turn out right, its a learning experience. Hope ya try it again. I love your videos, ya share when things don't go as planned too. Thst helps all of us know we arent alone when things don't quite go our way
What boots are you wearing?
Danner Bull Run
I know how you feel , I made a mosaic katana and one of the first welds didn’t take , unfortunately it didn’t show up until it came out of the etch , $200+ down the drain and over 120hrs maybe more
Yeah it's a big bummer when an extensive project fails!
So liquid molten hot steel would have no separations or the laminations so if you wanna weld steel, you have to get it super hot can’t be pounding on any dark red steel and hoping to laminate it
the video is true to the adage "if you don't have anything good to say then don't say anything at all".....also you need an exorcism for the gremlins in your shop...
Thank you
Still awesome you posted the video and made a blade!!! Get back up on the horse and FORGE ON!!! 👊
Thank you
I feel your pain, been there.
Quite an amount of adversity on this one. Good to see, that you still make a video of the process. I wish you better luck next time - hopefully your supplier of bearings labels hus products better, so that you can at least avoid that hurdle.
☀️💪👍💪☀️.
haha, yep it was sort of doomed from the beginning. I bought 52100 bearings, and they were packaged and labeled as such, and most of the were 52100 obviously. Somehow some others got mixed in before I got them... but oh well.
@@FireCreekForge you are such a high spirited man. I tip my har for you 👍
....hat....... Stupid autocorrect.
Oh man. I can imagine the choice words when you realized what had happened. I'm so sorry man - way to persevere though! Those bearings weren't from one of the "official" suppliers were they? (auction find perhaps?)
A company that sells them on eBay.
I just cried a little inside..
@@FireCreekForge I can image! Stay strong brother. You've stepped everything you do up by a thousand times this year. Bound to be some roadblocks! Hard times make strong men 👍
Looks more like a warncliff or sheep foot blade to me, but I’m no expert.
there was some angst behind those throws haha...
Haha, little steel test
I noticed you quenched and annealed before you ground to rough shape.
Doesn't that make it harder to grind and wear your belts out faster?
I'm not knocking, you do great work.
Shame it failed, but I trust you'll...forge ahead. (Ba Dum Tish).
BTW - any chance at a raindrop one for a future vid? Always loved that pattern...
Either way, keep up the good work!
Don’t worry be happy ❤
These things happen. That is how we learn. The next one will be better.
Hard won experience!
Well that had to be frustrating.
Yep it was
Many of us appreciate you shielding the welding flash
Why? Can't hurt you on a computer. lol
Good night nurse.... secure that O2 bottle!
Why do you always stick weld stuff? You’d be much better off with the tig process. On the knife steel that is, not the canister.
If it works for him, it works.
Why don't you do voice over anymore?
Trying some new things because views and especially new subscribers have been way down over the last 6 months- year.
@@FireCreekForge blame the ever increasing glut of voiced manga (and other) "real life" tales flooding youtube friend, those of us hardcore watchers will always follow true artists like you
@@GaisaSanktejoare you really blaming comic books for the lower view count of a bladesmith?
Really?
@@DH-xw6jp more like the glut of comic vids flooding RUclipss algorithm make finding anything useful or interesting a real chore without deliberately searching for something...
I don't know when it started for me, but I've blocked hundreds of revenge tale, comic vid and more channels, but for every one I block, it seems five more appear 😭🤬
@@FireCreekForge Need some verbal from you. I enjoy hearing your thoughts.
Now don't crucify me but wouldn't the rust inhibit fusion with the 2 metals between the can and the high carbon steel
Not enough to avoid at least some welding
Well Damn!
What a curmudgeonly little blade, it really did not want to be, did it?
Impressive process, very involved. I felt your pain. Come back to it again.
I had high hopes! good experience either way.
Sander bite on your thumb knuckle…. Im a welder and i wear my work as well
Yep, that'll happen!
у автора отличный станочный парк. а вот знаний и навыков ему очень не хватает
Не понял для чего столько геморроя? Сделать дамаск и приварить к нему лезвие, это верх извращения. Не проще сразу сделать дамаск который будет резать?
Disconnect mic from table. Makes sound so bad
👏👏👏🤜🤛
I never understood Christians and the cross thing. It's a torture device. Why would you worship a torture device? Kind of odd if you ask me...
Good question. But actually we don't worship the cross, we worship the one who died on it.
Ridiculous
I love watching this stuff on RUclips but. Cutting and grinding metal without gloves on is a really silly idea. Sorry, but I don't care how much experience you have. Real bad way to learn a lesson
Seriously? A viking seax with a christin cross pattern?
Well they did technically “convert to Christianity” eventually.
Well the Ulfberht sword has crosses on it, so I don't think it's too far out of the realm of possibility. But I'm not claiming to try and make an historical replica or anything.
A cross doesn’t necessarily mean Christianity or religion, the nazi swastika symbol was used by many groups of people to signify different things, it was just the nazis that made it notorious.
You know they converted, right?
Weren’t Vikings Godless pagans?
Yep
To be pagan means you have many gods. They had Odin and Thor and Loki and Freya just to name a few. So how can they be godless when they had more gods than the monotheistic religions of today?
My point was that the cross and a crucifixion had a different meaning to them than it has to Christians.
@@JohnSmith-gs4lw so that makes them godless heathen's? The cross symbol is far older than the Christian religion. They just adopted it. Either way they weren't godless words have meaning.
I never said crosses weren’t older than the Christian religion. Obviously they crucified Jesus on a cross so it existed before Jesus, if that makes you feel better. I also don’t need to defend your strawman arguments against me; you made that argument, not me.
Cheese and rice! Who would have thought Vikings would have such delicate sensibilities? Sorry to offend. Don’t cancel me or anything. Don’t worry, you’re on a Google platform. The only people who catch shade out here are Christians and Jews.
The process was very cool
But I won’t lie seeing the initial pattern I thought you were going for the end result pattern was bit of a let down 😔