I tried to learn Siril by watching other RUclipsrs. It was frustrating and I gave up. But I really wanted to improve my SeeStar images so I followed along with your video. Totally easy and I got a great result. Now I’m looking forward to processing many more. Thank you for the help. You’re a good teacher Cuiv. Clear skies!
I love the fact that you are spending time creating content for the seestar, and how to get the best out of the little device. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for this video! As a dad to an 11 y/o daughter and 8 y/o autistic son, I havent had much time to myself for quite a long time. I've always loved astronomy, but never had a telescope. I bought myself a Seestar for my birthday this year because of its low cost and ease of use for a newb. I've had so much fun since getting it and really looking forward to trying your methods of improving my images. I knew there were ways to improve them, just didn't know how! Thanks so much! Clear skies!
That's so amazing to hear Kevin, thanks so much for this feedback! I love how you're having fun with the Seestar, and hopefully you can share the joy with your kids!
Seestar is the best has happened to the hobby since I remember. Recently, I saw in astrobin the image of quasar taken with it. Nothing compares in simplicity, performance, and price.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I think is much more than an all in one. It's a qualitative change. Many people are entering into astrophotography because of the S50. Otherwise they would just continue with pure visual systems. S50 solves entry price point and crazy complexity.
I just received my Seestar two days ago and captured M51 and M81 right away but was looking for a workflow to get more value our of the data, and you provided exactly this, thank you so much!
A great example of what can be achieved with a little Seestar, good integration time and free software. With a bit of learning and paid software you can get even better results, however this is quite good. Thank you so much!
Ordered a Seestar S50 today. Your video was of great help explaining post processing. I will be watching it again after I get my first images from Seestar. Excellent video. At 72, I need all the help I can get.
I got my Seestar two weeks ago. My initial trials, straight from the Seestar, were pretty disappointing compared to what I see on Facebook, so I wanted to learn more about post processing. You video was immensely helpful and I am excited to try post processing. Thank you!
I just got the Seestar couple of days ago and I can't tell you how grateful I am for this video. I also live in city with really high light pollution and your guide really helped a lot improving my photos. It would be really good at some point to have another video where you can go into more advanced editing. Anyway you have a new subscriber now :)
As a regular user of deep sky stacker, gradient extractors and photoshop to develop images, I have to say this suite of software was very much straightforward and much simpler to understand. Not to mention free! You have made something wonderful come out of a low cost, astrophotography rig. Your instruction method has made the most of the data and provides simplicity and confidence for budding and seasoed amateur astroimagers. As for the final product.... Quel resultant magnifique! Thank you so much and clear skies!
I've been lurking on your channel for several days now & was dreading manually stacking and possibly having to buy a photoshop subscription and other star apps. You showed me I can do this with freeware. You also showed me that manual stacking isn't as bad as I had in my mind. I wrote down your entire tutorial in text formal as I followed along. My seestar arrives tomorrow! I especially like that you're in Tokyo. I myself am in a very dense city, so I love that this can be used in the city. Work often has me traveling far outside the city, which will be ideal for dark skies. Thanks for this! My journey begins tomorrow!
That is awesome! I'm so glad this is helpful, and have fun with your Seestar!! Test as much as possible during the day, and don't get frustrated if things don't work perfectly at first!
@Pavewy I'm loving my seestar. I ended up buying a gti mount and svbony scope, zwo guidescope and 120mm guide cam with a asi662mc main cam... lol... now i have 2 scopes working side by side. The seestar has been an awesome tool for when i don't want to fuss with a full-blown system. I also didn't know it would turn into an addiction of buying a full rig (so i can get MUCH closer to galaxies).
@Pavewy the seestar was definitely worth the cash. From the statistics I've been: it still out-specs the new dwarf. The exception might be if you think you'll use the dwarf's scenery mode as a normal camera. They both seem like excellent options though.
The SeeStar is the best $400 I’ve spent. 8” Dob for visual of the moon and planets while the SeeStar is stacking. SeeStar for anything deep sky. Awesome duo.
@@lmaoroflcopter Giving people their first view of the moon at high magnification or Jupiter/Saturn on the dob while you're photographing 15th magnitude moons on the ice giants with the SeeStar is the way to go =)
Seestar and astrophotography newbie here. I have trawled through numerous YT "tutorials", but yours, by far, was the most enlightening (no pun intended :) introduction to the whole process of taking an image from the Seestar through at least some of the options for post-processing, to completion. Knowing nothing about Graxpert or Siril coming in, I now have at least a rudimentary grasp of these tools and a clear workflow to follow. Your explanations of the process are clear and explicit, and easy to follow from beginning to end (I ended up with a very nice image of M17!). Very well done and thank you Cuiv!
Thanks for this guidance and your clear explanation! I normally only do EAA with a dobsonian and save the image as it is, but the images improves a lot where I follow your (easy and quick) steps. Much appreciated 😃
THANK YOU for this information. I just ordered my ZWO SeeStar S50 last night and am anxious to learn more about it and use it. I have used a Meade LX75 for decades, and it's a monster to lug around to enjoy an evening of star gazing. This will give me much more opportunity to spend an evening of night sky viewing. Keep up the excellent work of sharing your information. Much appreciated
Extremely interesting and helpful video and tutorial. Perfect for those of us on a budget who are enthralled by space and astrophotography, but don't have the brains or the time to buy and learn to operate the high-end equipment and software. Well done.
Thank you! I will try this on my husband's files - he can't sit still in front of a computer to edit, but I'm happy to do it. Did try this with data I collected last night on the Fireworks Galaxy with my Sky-Watcher 150P that has had some upgrades thanks to your videos, using the 533MC Pro camera. I've only dabbled with processing in Photoshop thus far, so it's nice to have some new (and free!) tools to help me before taking the PixInsight plunge. Great video, as always!
I'm sure I could figure out all the Siril scripts and what not, but as someone entirely new to stacking astrophotographs this manual walkthrough was *very* helpful
Each time I open Pixinsight I’m killed by the sheer mass of options - and gave up. Your video encouraged me to try this way to make the most out of the few data I was able to collect in the lousy middle european night sky.
Nice explanation of "manual" stacking. Re: Stacking (actually field rotation) artifacts, I get rid of those with Siril's background extraction. It usually takes several passes: once w/o dither and then 2-6 times with drizzle ('till no more improvement is shown). Also, after stretching of the starless image, I do another denoising step in GraXpert and then adjust black point.
Fantastic video. I just received my S50 and imaged the Andromeda galaxy. Then used this to do my own modifications both with the S50 default stack and using manual stacking. This video is so useful (and so well done)!
I admire your work and your commitment to the scene. I have also recently become the proud owner of a Seestar S50. However, I have to say that, in my opinion, the extra effort compared to autoprocessing with the Seestar tools and/or other one-click tools is not worth it. From an aesthetic point of view, I think the manually corrected photo from the Seestar app is even better. But that may be due to my personal taste or different weighting in terms of detail vs. aesthetic ratio. I wish you continued fun and success with your channel and send my best wishes from Mallorca to Tokyo! Stephan aka Moonlight Surfer
Yo! I’ve never smiled the entire duration of an hour long video, untill now! Thanks for the help, this was the BEST tutorial on this I’ve found. Thanks so much! Subscribing!
"When Tokyo is cloudy, Cuiv The Lazy Geek makes excellent videos" 🤗 I have experienced a bit myself with manual stacks from my Seestar, but this video was very helpful.
I've tried to apply the manual stacking procedure as shown by Cuiv on several DSOs and indeed this method rejects significant less subs than with Siril's pre-processing scripts. The method presented is fast and allows you to include many, many more of your subs. GREAT VIDEO and GREAT TIP!! Thanks for sharing your experience Cuiv!!
Great tutorial! I enjoy your relaxed style. I don’t own a Seestar yet, but you are making it tempting! 😊 There seems to be a new version available, so now I have to figure out S50 or S30. I need to work through all the pros and cons. I just subscribed!
Merci mon ami ! I just got myself the seestar S50 and it helped a lot. Now I need to find some nice place with less light pollution than just my window, but even like that, I could get nice results :) Encore merci,
Late last year I purchased my Seestar S50. I quickly found your channel and your step-by-step guidance has been extremely helpful. Based on the guidance of previous videos I've been saving the sub files, so I'll always have the option to stack them myself if I later choose to do so. Thank you for your efforts in helping those of us new to the hobby.
What a great tutorial, thanks for taking the time to explain to first time users how this works. Most others I've seen can't keep it to a basic level for beginners and tend to put you off. I've only had my Seestar for a few weeks and using your info I have taken my images to a whole other level. Now I have the confidence to keep practicing and learning more.
This is the first Video I watched from your Channel and instantly became a Fan. Will plunge through your other Videos now :). Kind regards from germany
This is a great tutorial that pulls some key tools and processes together! I had put off trying any post processing with my Seestar because I didn't even know where to start. After working my way through this video (with lots of pausing and backtracking) I gained a better understanding of the process and managed to really improve the image I was experimenting with. Thanks!
I had to watch the video a second time and then do the process as I watched parts of it again. I couldn’t do the GraXpert denoise part, tried 5 times and each time I got a not responding error. I was happy with the final outcome of my M27. I think M27 is one of my top 3 favorites!
Hey Cuiv, I have an accessory kit for my Seestar arriving in the next day or so. It includes a filter holder, dew shield, Bhatinov and Diffraction spike Mask. I am planning on getting a nice tripod and a few different filters in the future. I am just now getting into the manual processing side of astrophotography. Thank you for making these in-depth tutorials, they are very helpful. I am extremely excited to start using my own filters in the future and seeing the results as I learn to process the data I get and try to make the best final images I can!
Great video. I was using the live stacking in my ASI Air and getting nice results but decided to try stacking on the PC for more control (Not a Seestar User). Wow, what a difference. SIRIL is really great. I'm using Photoshop for the last steps, instead of Gimp, but using your same workflow. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information. It really makes the hobby more fun. Clear skies!
Thank you very much for your detailed yet easy to follow tutorial. I'm waiting for my Seestar S50 to arrive supposedly 2 days from now. In the meantime I've been joining S50 Facebook groups and watching RUclips videos. This is the 1st explanation of the stacking, image processing, that didn't totally overwhelm me. After I've done some decent long sessions and processed the image I'll see what you think of my results. Once again, I appreciate your outstanding tutorial. Troy Howlett Yukon, Oklahoma
Excellent tutorial! I live in Tokyo too, and I've just ordered a Seestar S50. I'll be trying it out on a hike of Mt Fuji. Hopefully I'll get clear skies!
Hey, Thank You very much. That was a great basic tutorial that really helps alot of the folks just learning. Its also inportant so people know, dont over process, you dont need perfection
I liked the processed Seestar image the best. Trouble is, I'm red/green colour blind so there's no point me having an opinion as I can't tell if the colours are right. Same when I try and process an image, I can't change colours or I just mess it up! :)
As always: Many thanks! You have once again filled the gap between theory and practice for me. Now I have a 'red thread' that I can work my way along again and again! I assume that in principle I can work in a similar way with my "Dwarf 2", right? I have both telescopes, but the "Dwarf" is more compact for me and therefore easier to take with me everywhere...
It should indeed work well for the Dwarf II, although for that you will need to take your Darks to calibrate - I actually have a separate, similar video for the Dwarf II! ruclips.net/video/pZJmdNyEKf0/видео.html
Wow! This is a lot of great content. Can you do another one for the Seestar S50 without doing your one sracking? Would love to focus and learn more of the details of the technique using the Seestar stacking. Especially, the sequence. Would love to see that process in action. Great job!
Wow! Thank you for the video. Saving it for future follow-along-edit session(s). But I gotta say that I'm happier with the SeeStar image in this video. It might be less bright, but I loth the noise of the other two images. I personally just cannot take the darkness of space not being "black" and void of light. There were points in Siril or Gimp edits where I shouted at the screen, "No! Go to black". But I learned by watching you that this is something I could/can do. Thank you!
First, I love your videos! Very informative and entertaining! A couple of questions. 1. How does the Seestar handle dew? 2. Can filters be used with it? 3. Can you live stack with it? 4. Can it be used with sharpcap? Thanks again!
Hey, Cuiv! This tutorial is great and I have had great results with it. The Seestar now has a mosaic mode. Perhaps it would be interesting if you showed us how we can process these mosaics while stacking the individual subframes using the steps you outlined here.
Best overall video I have seen on processing Seestar images manually! I would like to ask, have you used ASI Studo for stacking and gotten similar results as with Siril?
Super vid Cuiv also if you have the Seestar in 'Station' mode you can use \\Seestar to connect to it a pull the frames in across wifi, even whilst its still imaging.
I've just bought my seestar now after i saw this video... i haven't done any astrophotography more than two years. I have a heavy rig and to be honest i don't want to spend hours anymore for setups and calibrations and cables and all those things. I just want to be under a dark sky and take pictures. Finally i want to go out again!!!!!!!! :)
I prefer the image in the middle. Auto- Stacking by S50 is not that bad ! Anywhay I would like to understand more deeply what the image processing algorithms are doing ! Would you recommend reading the following book The Deep-sky Imaging Primer, Third Edition by Charles Bracken . Would you suggest another book ?
I have now figured out how to fix another issue that I had when trying to use these instructions for data from the Celestron Origin. The Debayer didn't work well, and didn't produce the correct colours because the Origin does not put Bayer pattern info in the headers. When there is no info in the headers, Siril defaults to using its preferred Bayer pattern, which is initially set to RGGB. That is not correct for the Origin, for which the Bayer pattern is BGGR. Siril's fallback pattern can be set through Preferences - click the icon with three horizontal lines at the top right, select Preferences, uncheck Bayer Info From File’s Header, and then set the Bayer Mosaic Pattern to the correct value for your sensor - for the Origin it is BGGR. Then hopefully conversion will produce the correct colours. I did write up a summary of your instructions, with some additional notes, as a Word document, and I tried to share that here on Google Drive, but that doesn't seem to have worked, so maybe RUclips didn't allow it, or maybe you didn't want it.
Wow you hit the nail on the head with this video! Pix incite is wonderful software but cost 1/2 the price of the seestar. For beginning astrophotography on a budget this is great. Thanks.
Great tutorial Cuiv! I'm a total novice and feel like I can make a real start with image processing based on this video. I took a lot of notes. I notice on the Siril-stacked image you skipped the background extraction step to remove gradient in Graxpert. Could that be why the Siril-stacked image was noisier? David
Thanks David! The background extraction being quite smooth it wouldn't introduce noise... It's just easier that Siril's built-in background extraction!
Thanks so much, wonderful training on these tools. I Hestia smartphone telescope from Vaonis with a iPhone 15 pro camera and it does not have tracking, but takes I think about 10 or 20 images and stacks them. I’ll call these mini stacks. Can I multiple mini stacked images that it makes of something like the Hercules and cluster and stack these, them process them as you did. Or can I only process my mini stack image? To be honest I;m not too impressed by this telescope but only have used in in Phoenix which has a lot of light pollution. They are suppose to come out with a tracker and maybe I’ll buy it when they do. Thanks for your help
Yeah I've been very wary of the Hestia, it didn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. You can indeed stack many mini stacks as well, it should enhance results to some extent, but a tracker is the true way to go!
1:52 Another proof that Seestar is neither AI nor does it download frames from the Internet. I own a green laser pointer, and once, while imaging M13, I pointed my laser toward M13 in the sky. Consequently, I saw the green glow in my image of M13
Thank you for the very comprehensive tutorial. I have processed some images several times - and the result is very different every time. Is that a beginner's problem? Or does this happen to you too?
I’m not an expert by any means regarding deep sky imaging and processing. As a photography enthusiast I do have experience with processing and removing noise from high ISO images and some astro photos. To me it’s always best to remove the noise from an image as early as possible in the post processing so that any other algorithms used to correct or enhance the image is not seeing and working on the noise along with the rest of the image. With that in mind, would it not be better to do the same with these deep sky images that contain a lot of noise, possibly right after stretching, so that the remaining processing is analyzing a "clean" image with only the desired data and not being thrown off by interpreting the noise as well. What are your thoughts?
Thank you so much for this excellent tutorial. You certainly know how to communicate clearly. I used this tutorial to help me process data from the Celestron Origin, which I just acquired. Some of your steps didn't quite work with the Origin data - the deBayer wouldn't work, as Siril reported no Bayer data in the headers; and the color balancing wouldn't work as you did it, as it kept complaining that it couldn't find stars, even after I specified the object. Still, even with those steps not working as they did for you, I was able to register and stack the raw data from the Origin, and get a good image. I must say though, this all looks very complex, and I feel rather as though I am stumbling through a great, dark forest, with only your small beam of light to guide me.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I've now figured out why I couldn't get photometric color calibration to work. There was a message 'No metadata in header' (which seems a bit surprising from the Origin), so I found the object; but I didn't set the correct focal length and pixel size. Once I set those values and found the correct reference object, the color correction worked fine.
Maybe due to lower res of RUclips difficult to tell differences. It actually looked like worse artifacts in the third image to me so I would definitely be happy with the middle image. Great video..its like having a pocket Hubble telescope ..amazing.
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I tried to learn Siril by watching other RUclipsrs. It was frustrating and I gave up. But I really wanted to improve my SeeStar images so I followed along with your video. Totally easy and I got a great result. Now I’m looking forward to processing many more. Thank you for the help. You’re a good teacher Cuiv. Clear skies!
Awesome to hear, glad this was helpful! Clear skies!
I love the fact that you are spending time creating content for the seestar, and how to get the best out of the little device. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you so much for this video! As a dad to an 11 y/o daughter and 8 y/o autistic son, I havent had much time to myself for quite a long time. I've always loved astronomy, but never had a telescope. I bought myself a Seestar for my birthday this year because of its low cost and ease of use for a newb. I've had so much fun since getting it and really looking forward to trying your methods of improving my images. I knew there were ways to improve them, just didn't know how! Thanks so much! Clear skies!
That's so amazing to hear Kevin, thanks so much for this feedback! I love how you're having fun with the Seestar, and hopefully you can share the joy with your kids!
Seestar is the best has happened to the hobby since I remember. Recently, I saw in astrobin the image of quasar taken with it. Nothing compares in simplicity, performance, and price.
Yeah as an all in one at this price, it's impressive!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I think is much more than an all in one. It's a qualitative change. Many people are entering into astrophotography because of the S50. Otherwise they would just continue with pure visual systems. S50 solves entry price point and crazy complexity.
I just received my Seestar two days ago and captured M51 and M81 right away but was looking for a workflow to get more value our of the data, and you provided exactly this, thank you so much!
Glad this is helpful, I hope you have fun testing this out!
A great example of what can be achieved with a little Seestar, good integration time and free software. With a bit of learning and paid software you can get even better results, however this is quite good. Thank you so much!
Absolutely! Wanted to restrict myself to free software for now though!
Ordered a Seestar S50 today. Your video was of great help explaining post processing. I will be watching it again after I get my first images from Seestar. Excellent video. At 72, I need all the help I can get.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant, thanks. I've just been given a S50 by my wife and all the info here was exactly what I was looking for!
Great to hear! Glad this helped :)
I got my Seestar two weeks ago. My initial trials, straight from the Seestar, were pretty disappointing compared to what I see on Facebook, so I wanted to learn more about post processing. You video was immensely helpful and I am excited to try post processing. Thank you!
I'm glad this is helpful! Good luck with the processing!
I just got the Seestar couple of days ago and I can't tell you how grateful I am for this video. I also live in city with really high light pollution and your guide really helped a lot improving my photos. It would be really good at some point to have another video where you can go into more advanced editing. Anyway you have a new subscriber now :)
As a regular user of deep sky stacker, gradient extractors and photoshop to develop images, I have to say this suite of software was very much straightforward and much simpler to understand. Not to mention free! You have made something wonderful come out of a low cost, astrophotography rig. Your instruction method has made the most of the data and provides simplicity and confidence for budding and seasoed amateur astroimagers. As for the final product.... Quel resultant magnifique! Thank you so much and clear skies!
Thanks so much for this feedback!! This made my day :) Clear skies!
This is my workflow for my Seestar photos. It's all I need. Works a treat. Thanks Cuiv. This is a fantastic tutorial.
So glad it's helpful!
I've been lurking on your channel for several days now & was dreading manually stacking and possibly having to buy a photoshop subscription and other star apps. You showed me I can do this with freeware. You also showed me that manual stacking isn't as bad as I had in my mind. I wrote down your entire tutorial in text formal as I followed along. My seestar arrives tomorrow! I especially like that you're in Tokyo. I myself am in a very dense city, so I love that this can be used in the city. Work often has me traveling far outside the city, which will be ideal for dark skies.
Thanks for this! My journey begins tomorrow!
That is awesome! I'm so glad this is helpful, and have fun with your Seestar!! Test as much as possible during the day, and don't get frustrated if things don't work perfectly at first!
It's been a month, how did it go?
@Pavewy I'm loving my seestar. I ended up buying a gti mount and svbony scope, zwo guidescope and 120mm guide cam with a asi662mc main cam... lol... now i have 2 scopes working side by side. The seestar has been an awesome tool for when i don't want to fuss with a full-blown system. I also didn't know it would turn into an addiction of buying a full rig (so i can get MUCH closer to galaxies).
@@revenger681 Awesome! Thanks for the update. So is the SseStar worth the money?
I've been looming at either the SeeStar or the Dwarf 3.
@Pavewy the seestar was definitely worth the cash. From the statistics I've been: it still out-specs the new dwarf. The exception might be if you think you'll use the dwarf's scenery mode as a normal camera. They both seem like excellent options though.
The SeeStar is the best $400 I’ve spent. 8” Dob for visual of the moon and planets while the SeeStar is stacking. SeeStar for anything deep sky. Awesome duo.
$400? That's a great price, all I see is $500 (499).
@@dannylgriffin the pre-release price was $399 so you had to get in early to get the lower price
I was thinking exactly the same thing, doing observational astronomy with a simple dobsonian, whilst I do astro photography with the smart scope!
@@lmaoroflcopter Giving people their first view of the moon at high magnification or Jupiter/Saturn on the dob while you're photographing 15th magnitude moons on the ice giants with the SeeStar is the way to go =)
I’ve been wanting a video like this for ages Fantastic tutorial and explanation best I’ve come across. Thank you.
Thank you!
Seestar and astrophotography newbie here. I have trawled through numerous YT "tutorials", but yours, by far, was the most enlightening (no pun intended :) introduction to the whole process of taking an image from the Seestar through at least some of the options for post-processing, to completion. Knowing nothing about Graxpert or Siril coming in, I now have at least a rudimentary grasp of these tools and a clear workflow to follow. Your explanations of the process are clear and explicit, and easy to follow from beginning to end (I ended up with a very nice image of M17!). Very well done and thank you Cuiv!
Hi cuiv, I've seen many seestar and siril tutorials, but yours is the easiest one to follow. Thank you.
Thanks for this guidance and your clear explanation! I normally only do EAA with a dobsonian and save the image as it is, but the images improves a lot where I follow your (easy and quick) steps. Much appreciated 😃
Glad it helped!
THANK YOU for this information. I just ordered my ZWO SeeStar S50 last night and am anxious to learn more about it and use it. I have used a Meade LX75 for decades, and it's a monster to lug around to enjoy an evening of star gazing. This will give me much more opportunity to spend an evening of night sky viewing. Keep up the excellent work of sharing your information. Much appreciated
This is really good video all steps included. Many professionals skip some steps and that's the reason newbies can't understand how to do ghe stuff.
Extremely interesting and helpful video and tutorial. Perfect for those of us on a budget who are enthralled by space and astrophotography, but don't have the brains or the time to buy and learn to operate the high-end equipment and software. Well done.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! I will try this on my husband's files - he can't sit still in front of a computer to edit, but I'm happy to do it. Did try this with data I collected last night on the Fireworks Galaxy with my Sky-Watcher 150P that has had some upgrades thanks to your videos, using the 533MC Pro camera. I've only dabbled with processing in Photoshop thus far, so it's nice to have some new (and free!) tools to help me before taking the PixInsight plunge. Great video, as always!
Happy to see that, and thanks for helping your husband like that! Good luck with the processing!
getting mine S50 on Monday. this tutorial is released just in time for me and it is perfect , thank you !
Excellent! Enjoy the scope and the processing!
Thanks! For all your info.
Thank you for your support!
I'm sure I could figure out all the Siril scripts and what not, but as someone entirely new to stacking astrophotographs this manual walkthrough was *very* helpful
Glad it helped!!
Each time I open Pixinsight I’m killed by the sheer mass of options - and gave up. Your video encouraged me to try this way to make the most out of the few data I was able to collect in the lousy middle european night sky.
Nice explanation of "manual" stacking. Re: Stacking (actually field rotation) artifacts, I get rid of those with Siril's background extraction. It usually takes several passes: once w/o dither and then 2-6 times with drizzle ('till no more improvement is shown). Also, after stretching of the starless image, I do another denoising step in GraXpert and then adjust black point.
Fantastic video. I just received my S50 and imaged the Andromeda galaxy. Then used this to do my own modifications both with the S50 default stack and using manual stacking. This video is so useful (and so well done)!
Glad you found it helpful!
I admire your work and your commitment to the scene. I have also recently become the proud owner of a Seestar S50. However, I have to say that, in my opinion, the extra effort compared to autoprocessing with the Seestar tools and/or other one-click tools is not worth it. From an aesthetic point of view, I think the manually corrected photo from the Seestar app is even better. But that may be due to my personal taste or different weighting in terms of detail vs. aesthetic ratio. I wish you continued fun and success with your channel and send my best wishes from Mallorca to Tokyo! Stephan aka Moonlight Surfer
Yo! I’ve never smiled the entire duration of an hour long video, untill now! Thanks for the help, this was the BEST tutorial on this I’ve found. Thanks so much! Subscribing!
I'm glad you found it helpful! I'm always trying to make my tutorials the best I can, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Wooo buddy my computer huffs and puffs through the Siril processing though 😂 but with a little patience I get GREAT results!
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am a beginner, waiting impatiently for my Seestar 50. Thanks to you I can quickly achieve better results. 🙏
"When Tokyo is cloudy, Cuiv The Lazy Geek makes excellent videos" 🤗
I have experienced a bit myself with manual stacks from my Seestar, but this video was very helpful.
Haha thank you so much!
I've tried to apply the manual stacking procedure as shown by Cuiv on several DSOs and indeed this method rejects significant less subs than with Siril's pre-processing scripts. The method presented is fast and allows you to include many, many more of your subs. GREAT VIDEO and GREAT TIP!! Thanks for sharing your experience Cuiv!!
I'm so happy this made such a difference!! Thanks for the feedback!
Wonderful explanation. This really helped me understand an efficient workflow for processing S50 files. Much appreciated.
Glad to hear it!
Great tutorial! I enjoy your relaxed style. I don’t own a Seestar yet, but you are making it tempting! 😊 There seems to be a new version available, so now I have to figure out S50 or S30. I need to work through all the pros and cons. I just subscribed!
Welcome to the channel! It's definitely a good scope!
Yet another great video. Appreciate the detail you go into in explaining how to get better images.
Thank you so much for the feedback as always!
Merci mon ami ! I just got myself the seestar S50 and it helped a lot. Now I need to find some nice place with less light pollution than just my window, but even like that, I could get nice results :)
Encore merci,
Thanks!
Thanks for your support, Steve!
Late last year I purchased my Seestar S50. I quickly found your channel and your step-by-step guidance has been extremely helpful. Based on the guidance of previous videos I've been saving the sub files, so I'll always have the option to stack them myself if I later choose to do so. Thank you for your efforts in helping those of us new to the hobby.
I am getting my seestar tomorrow and I can't wait to try it with this workflow. Thank you for helping those of us just learning the hobby.
What a great tutorial, thanks for taking the time to explain to first time users how this works. Most others I've seen can't keep it to a basic level for beginners and tend to put you off. I've only had my Seestar for a few weeks and using your info I have taken my images to a whole other level. Now I have the confidence to keep practicing and learning more.
This is the first Video I watched from your Channel and instantly became a Fan. Will plunge through your other Videos now :). Kind regards from germany
Just fantastic. Thanks for the detailed step-by-step instructions.
This is a great tutorial that pulls some key tools and processes together! I had put off trying any post processing with my Seestar because I didn't even know where to start. After working my way through this video (with lots of pausing and backtracking) I gained a better understanding of the process and managed to really improve the image I was experimenting with. Thanks!
I had to watch the video a second time and then do the process as I watched parts of it again. I couldn’t do the GraXpert denoise part, tried 5 times and each time I got a not responding error. I was happy with the final outcome of my M27. I think M27 is one of my top 3 favorites!
Haha glad you mention images downloaded from internet. It's the first reaction I've seen in some people that owns expensive visual rigs.
Hey this kind of comment is actually a form of flattery ;)
Another excellent video Cuiv. The SeeStar has given me so much fun. It's a joy to use and serves my purpose fully
Thanks so much, and yes it is a cracking little scope :)
Hey Cuiv, I have an accessory kit for my Seestar arriving in the next day or so. It includes a filter holder, dew shield, Bhatinov and Diffraction spike Mask. I am planning on getting a nice tripod and a few different filters in the future. I am just now getting into the manual processing side of astrophotography. Thank you for making these in-depth tutorials, they are very helpful. I am extremely excited to start using my own filters in the future and seeing the results as I learn to process the data I get and try to make the best final images I can!
great tutorial ! havent bought s50 yet but soon will.cant wait to apply this tutorial by myself
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. I was using the live stacking in my ASI Air and getting nice results but decided to try stacking on the PC for more control (Not a Seestar User). Wow, what a difference. SIRIL is really great. I'm using Photoshop for the last steps, instead of Gimp, but using your same workflow. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information. It really makes the hobby more fun. Clear skies!
Great to hear, glad this was helpful!
Very clear explanation of a complicated process. Thank you 👏
Thank you, and glad it was helpful!
Awesome tutorial. Thank you very much. So far, I have been using the Sesstar stacking, but I'll try your two approaches next.
Have fun testing out the manual processing!
Thank you very much for your detailed yet easy to follow tutorial.
I'm waiting for my Seestar S50 to arrive supposedly 2 days from now.
In the meantime I've been joining S50 Facebook groups and watching RUclips videos.
This is the 1st explanation of the stacking, image processing, that didn't totally overwhelm me.
After I've done some decent long sessions and processed the image I'll see what you think of my results.
Once again, I appreciate your outstanding tutorial.
Troy Howlett
Yukon, Oklahoma
This is the best image processing video! Thanks Cuiv!!
I'm glad you like it!
Excellent tutorial!
I live in Tokyo too, and I've just ordered a Seestar S50. I'll be trying it out on a hike of Mt Fuji. Hopefully I'll get clear skies!
Brilliant tutorial - as a S50 user I'll give this a go. I'm in Abernethy, Scotland, bortle 4. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy!
Very helpful! I'm sure I'll be watching it again when my S30 arrives.
Awesome, you'll love it!
Hey, Thank You very much. That was a great basic tutorial that really helps alot of the folks just learning. Its also inportant so people know, dont over process, you dont need perfection
I liked the processed Seestar image the best. Trouble is, I'm red/green colour blind so there's no point me having an opinion as I can't tell if the colours are right. Same when I try and process an image, I can't change colours or I just mess it up! :)
Incredibly helpful, taking my Seestar to another level. Thank you 👍
Great to hear!
Thank you so much, with this tutorial I can try follow your step and make my seestar imaging even better 🎉
You are so welcome!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Is this tutorial gonna work for nebulae's too?
Hey there! Many thanks for such a great tutorial! It is a very easy explanation of complex things! Appreciate this a lot!
All the best to you!
This is a great video and one I will revisit many times in the future, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
As always: Many thanks!
You have once again filled the gap between theory and practice for me. Now I have a 'red thread' that I can work my way along again and again!
I assume that in principle I can work in a similar way with my "Dwarf 2", right?
I have both telescopes, but the "Dwarf" is more compact for me and therefore easier to take with me everywhere...
It should indeed work well for the Dwarf II, although for that you will need to take your Darks to calibrate - I actually have a separate, similar video for the Dwarf II! ruclips.net/video/pZJmdNyEKf0/видео.html
Thanks! How might one determine the actual correct colors of deep sky objects, then process accordingly?
Thanks Spencer! The Photometric Color Calibration tool does exactly that :)
Wow! This is a lot of great content. Can you do another one for the Seestar S50 without doing your one sracking? Would love to focus and learn more of the details of the technique using the Seestar stacking. Especially, the sequence. Would love to see that process in action. Great job!
Wow! Thank you for the video. Saving it for future follow-along-edit session(s). But I gotta say that I'm happier with the SeeStar image in this video. It might be less bright, but I loth the noise of the other two images. I personally just cannot take the darkness of space not being "black" and void of light. There were points in Siril or Gimp edits where I shouted at the screen, "No! Go to black". But I learned by watching you that this is something I could/can do. Thank you!
Great video Cuiv!
My wife loves her S50.
Excellent!
Great explanations. Looking forward to try it by myself. Thanks for sharing your Knowledge with us.
Awesome tutorial Cuiv! Makes me want a SeeStar S50 now 🙂
Thanks Dave! It definitely helps when you're feeling frustrated by something not working on your main rig!
First, I love your videos! Very informative and entertaining! A couple of questions. 1. How does the Seestar handle dew? 2. Can filters be used with it? 3. Can you live stack with it? 4. Can it be used with sharpcap? Thanks again!
Hey, Cuiv! This tutorial is great and I have had great results with it. The Seestar now has a mosaic mode. Perhaps it would be interesting if you showed us how we can process these mosaics while stacking the individual subframes using the steps you outlined here.
Warm regards from Korea. Super helpful and educative. Thank you so much for your video.
Glad it's helpful!
These videos on the Seestar are excellent. Thank you.
Bought 1 yesterday. hopefully I'll get to use it over the weekend here in the UK
Best overall video I have seen on processing Seestar images manually! I would like to ask, have you used ASI Studo for stacking and gotten similar results as with Siril?
I haven't tried ASI Studio, I'll have a look at some point :)
This is a great tutorial! Thanks for making this easy and informative!
Super helpful! A free course how to process astrophotography images! Once it is a bit darker earlier, I will try this out!
Enjoy!
I always look forward to your videos. Well done and keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
Super vid Cuiv also if you have the Seestar in 'Station' mode you can use \\Seestar to connect to it a pull the frames in across wifi, even whilst its still imaging.
Very nice! Thanks for the tip!
Great work I will use this video for reference last image was the best to me
Awesome, thank you! Enjoy processing :)
I've just bought my seestar now after i saw this video... i haven't done any astrophotography more than two years. I have a heavy rig and to be honest i don't want to spend hours anymore for setups and calibrations and cables and all those things. I just want to be under a dark sky and take pictures. Finally i want to go out again!!!!!!!! :)
Awesome!! Have fun with the Seestar!
Brilliant as usual--merci! And I'll think of you next time I get to that touristy square on Montmartre (inside joke).
Mwahaha i do have a picture with the name of that Place
Great, really fantastic video for seestar users!❤
Thank you! I do hope the video finds its audience :)
Thank you for this tutorial. It was easy to follow, and i was successful.
That's awesome to hear, thanks for the feedback!!
I prefer the image in the middle. Auto- Stacking by S50 is not that bad ! Anywhay I would like to understand more deeply what the image processing algorithms are doing ! Would you recommend reading the following book The Deep-sky Imaging Primer, Third Edition by Charles Bracken . Would you suggest another book ?
I don't really have opinions on those books, I only own The Astrophotography Manual
Excellent guidance! Tell me, did you use a flare filter or not?
I have now figured out how to fix another issue that I had when trying to use these instructions for data from the Celestron Origin. The Debayer didn't work well, and didn't produce the correct colours because the Origin does not put Bayer pattern info in the headers. When there is no info in the headers, Siril defaults to using its preferred Bayer pattern, which is initially set to RGGB. That is not correct for the Origin, for which the Bayer pattern is BGGR. Siril's fallback pattern can be set through Preferences - click the icon with three horizontal lines at the top right, select Preferences, uncheck Bayer Info From File’s Header, and then set the Bayer Mosaic Pattern to the correct value for your sensor - for the Origin it is BGGR. Then hopefully conversion will produce the correct colours. I did write up a summary of your instructions, with some additional notes, as a Word document, and I tried to share that here on Google Drive, but that doesn't seem to have worked, so maybe RUclips didn't allow it, or maybe you didn't want it.
Great video, obviously doing own stacking and processing produces a great result!
Wow you hit the nail on the head with this video! Pix incite is wonderful software but cost 1/2 the price of the seestar. For beginning astrophotography on a budget this is great. Thanks.
Exactly! Cheers!
Thx lot for this easy and useful tutorial - now I have a lazy workflow to get more out of my Seestar!
Great tutorial Cuiv! I'm a total novice and feel like I can make a real start with image processing based on this video. I took a lot of notes.
I notice on the Siril-stacked image you skipped the background extraction step to remove gradient in Graxpert. Could that be why the Siril-stacked image was noisier?
David
Thanks David! The background extraction being quite smooth it wouldn't introduce noise... It's just easier that Siril's built-in background extraction!
Very helpful video. Thanks a bunch , joined your patreon
Thank you so much for your support!!
Thanks so much, wonderful training on these tools. I Hestia smartphone telescope from Vaonis with a iPhone 15 pro camera and it does not have tracking, but takes I think about 10 or 20 images and stacks them. I’ll call these mini stacks. Can I multiple mini stacked images that it makes of something like the Hercules and cluster and stack these, them process them as you did. Or can I only process my mini stack image? To be honest I;m not too impressed by this telescope but only have used in in Phoenix which has a lot of light pollution. They are suppose to come out with a tracker and maybe I’ll buy it when they do. Thanks for your help
Yeah I've been very wary of the Hestia, it didn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. You can indeed stack many mini stacks as well, it should enhance results to some extent, but a tracker is the true way to go!
1:52 Another proof that Seestar is neither AI nor does it download frames from the Internet. I own a green laser pointer, and once, while imaging M13, I pointed my laser toward M13 in the sky. Consequently, I saw the green glow in my image of M13
Yep, exactly!
Thank you for the very comprehensive tutorial.
I have processed some images several times - and the result is very different every time.
Is that a beginner's problem? Or does this happen to you too?
I’m not an expert by any means regarding deep sky imaging and processing. As a photography enthusiast I do have experience with processing and removing noise from high ISO images and some astro photos. To me it’s always best to remove the noise from an image as early as possible in the post processing so that any other algorithms used to correct or enhance the image is not seeing and working on the noise along with the rest of the image. With that in mind, would it not be better to do the same with these deep sky images that contain a lot of noise, possibly right after stretching, so that the remaining processing is analyzing a "clean" image with only the desired data and not being thrown off by interpreting the noise as well. What are your thoughts?
Thank you so much for this excellent tutorial. You certainly know how to communicate clearly. I used this tutorial to help me process data from the Celestron Origin, which I just acquired. Some of your steps didn't quite work with the Origin data - the deBayer wouldn't work, as Siril reported no Bayer data in the headers; and the color balancing wouldn't work as you did it, as it kept complaining that it couldn't find stars, even after I specified the object. Still, even with those steps not working as they did for you, I was able to register and stack the raw data from the Origin, and get a good image. I must say though, this all looks very complex, and I feel rather as though I am stumbling through a great, dark forest, with only your small beam of light to guide me.
It's always a learning process, and getting this to work with the Origin is great, well done!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I've now figured out why I couldn't get photometric color calibration to work. There was a message 'No metadata in header' (which seems a bit surprising from the Origin), so I found the object; but I didn't set the correct focal length and pixel size. Once I set those values and found the correct reference object, the color correction worked fine.
Maybe due to lower res of RUclips difficult to tell differences. It actually looked like worse artifacts in the third image to me so I would definitely be happy with the middle image. Great video..its like having a pocket Hubble telescope ..amazing.