I agree with you, that coach looks beautiful. I can see how I would fall in love with it but DANG!! I was gonna say the leaking shower was the final straw and then you said something about them fixing it. The tire and the slide are big things. It's a bust. 😊
Slide bothers me as well. Just talked to customers and they fixed everything. Might change front steers. Shower is perfect. They are happy 😊 we're happy for them 🙂
I like to know how a dealer trades this in without testing anything out, and doesn't smell anything!!! Gray water can be really bad, especially in Florida were its warm!!! How do they put something like that on the lot in that condition!!! Everything you pointed out is in plaid sight!!! BUST FOR ME!!!
When you don't know what you don't know...it's hard to figure what you are looking for don't you think? Once I gave you all the issues, ohhh now it's clear right?
Love your video's! I did not think they used schwintek but I guess they do!!?? I thought they stopped using those slides on Tiffin. Great inspection again!! I have learned a lot from you guys!
Another great one Blue Ox!! Thanks for helping to teach us things about RVs. A independent inspection is a must no matter the cost of the RV. To many RV dealerships will try to screw you and sell you subpar units. The only to protect yourself is a inspection.
Thanks so much for the shout out. I really enjoy your videos, inspections and the way you guys live and work together. And dang those grand kid s are cute. Keep up the good work and the awesome lifestyle.
Another great video guys, as soon as Pierre showed the slide rubbing and losing the fiberglass I started to run. I couldn't believe how bad the leak in that shower was. Wow, I always picked my own inspector not on their list or who they suggest. Who do they really work for?
This is a Bust for the price of a Tiffin so many problems I have met the both of you and yes you are on the shorter side Laurel but you both are very nice people this is another great video
I meant the shortness is to what you sad in the video you are very nice I don’t know if you remember me but at at Hershey you where helping me talk my wife it to camping she is not a fan
She needs to be a "glamper"...just remind her, compare to an hotel, she is in her own germs, her sheets, her bathroom, eating and drinking out of her own cup. Making memories 😉 Happy trails!
The dealership's 'independent' inspectors are dependent somewhat on keeping that dealer happy in order to obtain future referrals. Works the same way when buying a house and using the realtor's preferred inspector (they don't want to lose the sale).
Just subscribed. Love your channel. I started RVing at the age of 9 (54 years ago) with my parents. I've had several rvs over the years and did all my own repairs. Even with all my years of experience I would still definitely call you guys! BTW, Vt. born, raised and still live here. Great job.👍
Hey you two! It's your new friend from New Mexico! So good to see you this week in this really nice coach. I always learn something and I actually take notes! Thank you again for the awesome content, and I hope to visit with you soon. Be safe, stay healthy.
I personally think it's a bust and it's sad, that for what these cost, the build quality is so poor. I really enjoy these videos and thanks for sharing them with us.
I always ask the selling dealer for their list of recommended independent inspectors. Then I make sure to NOT call them for my buyer's inspection. Fastoche.
Do both front tires show that kind of whare pattern? I went back and looked a couple times. It could be out of round. But it most likely is alinement. All coaches have a statement some ware that says the owner should get an "all wheel alignment" loaded for travel.. I am hopping they can adjust/shim the slide so it doesn't drag. Have you ever done one of the big FMCA rally's? We are going to the one in Tucson AZ 18-23. You might think about getting a booth to promote RV inspections.
LOL I remember when they had machines that would "True" a tire. You put the mounted tire on and it was like a lathe it trimmed the tread till it was perfectly round.@@blueoxontherun9188
😺Man! That’s a beautiful interior. I can only imagine the asking price. But for only 15,000 miles, it already has serious misalignments with the slide outs and that front right wheel. Plus it could be a major job to get to where the shower is leaking. Every slide out, seems to me, to rely on little crappy rollers and glides that don’t look any more substantial than the glides on my kitchen drawers. These slide outs are heavy and massive, and they carry big sofas or even refrigerators, yet the hardware looks way to flimsy for the weight of them. Plus they are bouncing along each and every mile travelled! Constant repeated cycles of dynamic loading. It’s inevitable that they will go askew. They need to have a more industrial heft to the rollers, guides and gears. Of course, this means more GVW.
I'd rather have the box adjusted and not worry about the stripes not lining up. The rest of this is careless assembly. Don't sign unless it is all fixed and perfect.
Oh my gosh another nightmare. Same model that you are going to inspect tomorrow morning for us. But ours is a 2018. I’m now sick to my stomach. Because this would be a bust for us. Fingers crossed. Hope I sleep tonight. So did your customers buy it?
They did. Picking it up sometime this week. Shower has supposedly been fixed and electronics as well. They will go to Rdd Bay for the slideout 😉 See you in a few 🙂
Pass, that leaking shower has been doing that for a while looking at the damage, the slides are off and the electrical problems with the panel and the shades. Disappointed as its a nice looking bus.
You need to go to our playlist of videos we did about " how to hire an inspector " here's the link ruclips.net/p/PLE6c865sbAWbKvSz8Is_E58eH4m5gGAyI&si=7BZpe77Qtr1krBr1
A bust for me. Don't want to spend a bundle on the RV and then drive to Red Bay, Alabanana, to spend more money and time. Much prefer the old rocker switches to the digital pads as you can use other switches if something goes out. If the pad goes out, your pretty much stuck.
Nope! Not for the money I want slides that work as designed. Also who knows how much damage that shower leak has caused. I was so hopeful for this coach! Next!!!!
I expect there are problems if there's a lot of mileage on the coach. But this one looks almost new. Dam water issues. Spoils the unit completely for me. I wouldn't buy it for sure.
Its a huge bust , about those Michelin Tires , I had those on my old Buick , being a young foolish punk at the time , out in the country racing around , stop at a buds house , have a few beers , get up next morning to get into the car ,, oops I notice a flat tire , drop it off to get fix . , pick it up next day , the repair guy tells me the tire cant be fixed , because the tire desaturated from the inside of tire . Just think doing 120 mph and having a blow out on the front tire . Toyo tires is a lot better tire and get more miles on them as well . A big no for Michelin for me , almost killed me .
Even though it is beautiful to the eye, I think this would be a BUST for me! So sad someone else will buy it and be SO excited until they start having issues right from the start! Not a great feeling knowing how much $$ they would be putting out for their “Dream” coach to start crying buckets just like the shower.
Know that stow and go is not for me. That's why I wouldn't buy one like that. I want a little room to walk around when we stopped at a rest stop. These RV makers are crazy.
After watching the video in full I would not buy that coach. Just for the record. Me and my wife toured tiffin camp in their campground talk to all the people talk to all the people waiting to get their RV fixed we bought a newmar.
Very shady dealership and so called independent inspectors, very disappointing for a Tiffin , high dollar issues. Tale tale signs of shower.leaki g way to long since it is smelling . I agree Keep It Simple , more expensive and frustration with the new touch screens. Sarcasm you are awesome. For me it's a bust . Send me your address I can get you a Clapboard Hooha
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Issues on the outside mean problems on the inside, "just like people" 😅 Love the humor, keep it up guys! Plus its an education every time.
Thanks Mr Matt !!
I will take Pierre’s two cents every time. it turns into gold in my pocket. great education every time.
Sweet 😘 🤣 glad you get something out of it 😉
I agree with you, that coach looks beautiful. I can see how I would fall in love with it but DANG!!
I was gonna say the leaking shower was the final straw and then you said something about them fixing it. The tire and the slide are big things. It's a bust. 😊
Slide bothers me as well.
Just talked to customers and they fixed everything. Might change front steers. Shower is perfect.
They are happy 😊 we're happy for them 🙂
Great explanation by Pierre on what an inspector should be and do . 😊 That coach would be a bust for me.
" Independent " you say 😉?
The fastest way to travel for those not in a hurry, Love it! I'm almost thinking this one might be a bust for me so wonder what the buyers decided..
They agreed with the seller and was fixed and picking it up soon!
Love the inspections !! I'm sure you saved that customer from a headache. Love the humor in the videos as well !!
The slide out at the end looks like it is the leaning tower of Pizza
Bust too many issues. Keep up the great videos we learn so much from you guys.
Thank you
C4BO, Tiffin used to be a quality company now it looks like a Friday build. I wouldn’t have this for free! Great job guys!
Tiffin just thought ahead and created the first automatic shower drain so you don't have to fill your grey tank with actual grey water. Great idea!
Right!! Just forgot about the fowl smell left behind 🤣
I like to know how a dealer trades this in without testing anything out, and doesn't smell anything!!! Gray water can be really bad, especially in Florida were its warm!!! How do they put something like that on the lot in that condition!!! Everything you pointed out is in plaid sight!!! BUST FOR ME!!!
When you don't know what you don't know...it's hard to figure what you are looking for don't you think?
Once I gave you all the issues, ohhh now it's clear right?
@@blueoxontherun9188 The smell is to let you know it is working..lol
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Love your video's! I did not think they used schwintek but I guess they do!!?? I thought they stopped using those slides on Tiffin. Great inspection again!! I have learned a lot from you guys!
You guys are awesome people should be glad you are working for them.
Most people appreciate the value we are bringing into the deal!
Another great one Blue Ox!! Thanks for helping to teach us things about RVs. A independent inspection is a must no matter the cost of the RV. To many RV dealerships will try to screw you and sell you subpar units. The only to protect yourself is a inspection.
I'm happy to see we are starting getting through to more people 😉🤣
hey guys like you always say it's a negotiation tool that can be repaired so get it done before you take possession. Great job.
Exactly...before you sign your final paperwork
They’d have to pay me to take that thing. Love you two.
Thanks so much for the shout out. I really enjoy your videos, inspections and the way you guys live and work together. And dang those grand kid s are cute. Keep up the good work and the awesome lifestyle.
You are welcome 😊
We appreciate you as well 🙏
Old school is great , nice work!
Thanks 😊
That's a bust....I guess it's impossible to find the perfect RV😢 another great inspection
It's close to impossible right?
The stow and go is tight, but accessible.
Another great video guys, as soon as Pierre showed the slide rubbing and losing the fiberglass I started to run. I couldn't believe how bad the leak in that shower was. Wow, I always picked my own inspector not on their list or who they suggest. Who do they really work for?
Love watching so I can keep an eye on my coach I check the items you point out to make sure no future issues. Thank you for making these videos
We appreciate you 🙏
I Love your videos! I bought a Fiberglass trailer because of these problems I have seen on your channel. It's small but have I never had any problems.
Anything to make us happy and put a smile 😃
Happy trails 🤙
Great job blue ox!
Thanks 😊
C4bo.
Loved the bloopers. Was this Pierre getting back at Laurel's camera aim a few videos back??
Nooo...I just happen to love em 🤣🤣😉
This is a Bust for the price of a Tiffin so many problems
I have met the both of you and yes you are on the shorter side Laurel but you both are very nice people this is another great video
Well thank you Mr Bill 🙏 😊
I meant the shortness is to what you sad in the video you are very nice
I don’t know if you remember me but at at Hershey you where helping me talk my wife it to camping she is not a fan
She needs to be a "glamper"...just remind her, compare to an hotel, she is in her own germs, her sheets, her bathroom, eating and drinking out of her own cup.
Making memories 😉
Happy trails!
The dealership's 'independent' inspectors are dependent somewhat on keeping that dealer happy in order to obtain future referrals. Works the same way when buying a house and using the realtor's preferred inspector (they don't want to lose the sale).
We never hand out business card or even meet the salesperson 98% of the time 🙂
Learn something new on every video. This was a nice rig. Great job!!!! ❤❤❤❤
Thanks 😊
It is a beautiful rig. They are picking it up this week sometime 🙂
Great video as always!
C4BO another great video. Thank you.
That's called 'Trading In Your Problem'
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Just subscribed. Love your channel. I started RVing at the age of 9 (54 years ago) with my parents. I've had several rvs over the years and did all my own repairs. Even with all my years of experience I would still definitely call you guys! BTW, Vt. born, raised and still live here. Great job.👍
Welcome on our journey!
Make sure to say hi to Lisa!! As well as Larry and your other brother Daryl 😉🤣
😂😂 👍
great job
We had a leak like that, when we 1st bout our 07. It was the shower hot & cold faucet leaking. We replaced the faucet and stopped the leak
You have to be somewhat mechanical right ?
I wonder if the electronic issue is related to that waterfall of water coming from the shower.
It’s a bust guess who’s going back to tiffin 🤬 thanks guys great video
🤣🤣 sorry...at least you know right ??
No go with that water leak and slide problem. Give me normal switches any day. If it ain’t breaking then you ain’t RV’ing😂.
The rust I just saw !! No way !!
Hey you two! It's your new friend from New Mexico! So good to see you this week in this really nice coach. I always learn something and I actually take notes! Thank you again for the awesome content, and I hope to visit with you soon. Be safe, stay healthy.
Hey Pat! Looking forward to sit down one day soon...after August once you gave them all away and graduated 😉
Stay safe my friend 🙏 🤙
I personally think it's a bust and it's sad, that for what these cost, the build quality is so poor. I really enjoy these videos and thanks for sharing them with us.
You are welcome Mr Bill 🤙
A 50k rigg. From the midd 2000 to 1999. Actually better than any rig built today..
I always ask the selling dealer for their list of recommended independent inspectors.
Then I make sure to NOT call them for my buyer's inspection.
Fastoche.
Good idea 💡 genius!!
Great video!
Thanks 😊
Looked like a nice unit…at first, def a bust 😢. Your bloopers are hilarious! C4BO
I like them, what can I say 🤣
So do you think that was an obvious flaw before it was painted? I kinda think so.
That one would be a no for me.
Do both front tires show that kind of whare pattern? I went back and looked a couple times. It could be out of round. But it most likely is alinement. All coaches have a statement some ware that says the owner should get an "all wheel alignment" loaded for travel..
I am hopping they can adjust/shim the slide so it doesn't drag.
Have you ever done one of the big FMCA rally's? We are going to the one in Tucson AZ 18-23. You might think about getting a booth to promote RV inspections.
Might be out of round...
We went to Perry GA last year at FMCA.
We were by far the youngest couple there...🤣
LOL I remember when they had machines that would "True" a tire. You put the mounted tire on and it was like a lathe it trimmed the tread till it was perfectly round.@@blueoxontherun9188
You kids! @@blueoxontherun9188
I would keep looking.When did thor purchased tiffin
December of 2020
Perfect time to trade in- OMG' yeah another reason I'm overpaying fer NEW
You said it 😊
That's another bust for me.For all the money I'd have to pay, it's not my responsibility to take it to Red Bay and spend who knows how long..🤨
😺Man! That’s a beautiful interior. I can only imagine the asking price. But for only 15,000 miles, it already has serious misalignments with the slide outs and that front right wheel. Plus it could be a major job to get to where the shower is leaking.
Every slide out, seems to me, to rely on little crappy rollers and glides that don’t look any more substantial than the glides on my kitchen drawers.
These slide outs are heavy and massive, and they carry big sofas or even refrigerators, yet the hardware looks way to flimsy for the weight of them. Plus they are bouncing along each and every mile travelled! Constant repeated cycles of dynamic loading. It’s inevitable that they will go askew.
They need to have a more industrial heft to the rollers, guides and gears. Of course, this means more GVW.
I'm in total agreement with your position. There's not much hope this will sustain these kind if applications for long without issues 🙃
A bust for me. Too many serious issues! You're leaving when? Lol! Enjoy your videos!
Thanks Ms Sharon 😘
I'd rather have the box adjusted and not worry about the stripes not lining up. The rest of this is careless assembly. Don't sign unless it is all fixed and perfect.
Wow
Oh my gosh another nightmare. Same model that you are going to inspect tomorrow morning for us. But ours is a 2018. I’m now sick to my stomach. Because this would be a bust for us. Fingers crossed. Hope I sleep tonight. So did your customers buy it?
They did. Picking it up sometime this week. Shower has supposedly been fixed and electronics as well. They will go to Rdd Bay for the slideout 😉
See you in a few 🙂
Pass, that leaking shower has been doing that for a while looking at the damage, the slides are off and the electrical problems with the panel and the shades. Disappointed as its a nice looking bus.
It is a hard one, you're right!
C4BO iT'S A bust. I've had slide problems and they are never right even after being repaird.
If you are shopping in your area how do you know if the inspector you choose isn't on there kickback list !
You need to go to our playlist of videos we did about " how to hire an inspector " here's the link
ruclips.net/p/PLE6c865sbAWbKvSz8Is_E58eH4m5gGAyI&si=7BZpe77Qtr1krBr1
Its a bust for me. Thanks Don
A bust for me. Don't want to spend a bundle on the RV and then drive to Red Bay, Alabanana, to spend more money and time. Much prefer the old rocker switches to the digital pads as you can use other switches if something goes out. If the pad goes out, your pretty much stuck.
EXACTLY 😠 All this Geek Squad technology 🙄🤨
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I'd want that list. Mainly so I could find one who isn't on it.
Nope! Not for the money I want slides that work as designed. Also who knows how much damage that shower leak has caused. I was so hopeful for this coach! Next!!!!
Me too !!😊
Bust !
Bust!!!!
C4BO 💯
It's an outside shower!
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I would buy if dealer would fix the slides and front wheel issue on there dime. This would not be a deal breaker. ..I've seen worst.
Exactly. Most everything is fixable.
This customer actually got everything fixed from this seller 🙂
They're on their way 😁
C4BO
“Bust”
I expect there are problems if there's a lot of mileage on the coach. But this one looks almost new. Dam water issues. Spoils the unit completely for me. I wouldn't buy it for sure.
Talked to the owners a few days ago, seller fixed everything and went beyond their expectations. They are happy campers 😊
Its a huge bust , about those Michelin Tires , I had those on my old Buick , being a young foolish punk at the time , out in the country racing around , stop at a buds house , have a few beers , get up next morning to get into the car ,, oops I notice a flat tire , drop it off to get fix .
, pick it up next day , the repair guy tells me the tire cant be fixed , because the tire desaturated from the inside of tire . Just think doing 120 mph and having a blow out on the front tire . Toyo tires is a lot better tire and get more miles on them as well . A big no for Michelin for me , almost killed me .
Not a fan of Michelin either...same in the trucking industry.
Bust
😢
A bust for me as why should I have to take it to red bay 😮
That is a determining factor for a lot of customers. When it's too much, one can walk away reassured they are making the right call!
Even though it is beautiful to the eye, I think this would be a BUST for me! So sad someone else will buy it and be SO excited until they start having issues right from the start! Not a great feeling knowing how much $$ they would be putting out for their “Dream” coach to start crying buckets just like the shower.
Good one 😉
C4BO👍🏼😎
Have you guys ever been refused by a dealer to come in and perform an inspection?
Yep!
Left with our customers and they found a smarter dealership not as shady 😉
👍🏼
C4BO!
The best RVs ever made was from 1999 to 2017. They have been dumbed down since .. not true hard wood.. along with many other things..
Know that stow and go is not for me. That's why I wouldn't buy one like that. I want a little room to walk around when we stopped at a rest stop. These RV makers are crazy.
Us too...that's a bummer 😕
C4BO To me that would be a bust
Bust.
Bust, c4bo
After watching the video in full I would not buy that coach. Just for the record. Me and my wife toured tiffin camp in their campground talk to all the people talk to all the people waiting to get their RV fixed we bought a newmar.
They all have their qualities and fail...choose the one you like 😉
cb04
Very shady dealership and so called independent inspectors, very disappointing for a Tiffin , high dollar issues. Tale tale signs of shower.leaki g way to long since it is smelling .
I agree Keep It Simple , more expensive and frustration with the new touch screens.
Sarcasm you are awesome.
For me it's a bust .
Send me your address I can get you a Clapboard Hooha
😍🤣 😊 thanks
C4BO
It’s a bust.
C4bo
Total bust. There is way too much wrong with this unit.
c4bo
Bust !
C4BO
Bust!
C4BO
Bust for me. Spending a ton for it.