I just play at the LA fitness and people always run the "person with the ball dribbles to the 3 point line and throw up a prayer, then don't play defense." hahah
I hated this offense in high school. The coach left no room to reacting to the defense, forcing passes the opposing team knew were coming. Basketball players should not be drones. Though, this may have been a coaching error, not systematic.
I agree that robotic implementation passes up many opportunities. Robotic implementation of the Open Post has the same issues -- and doesn't even start with the initial screen down low. One thing I will teach day 1 this year is that about 50% of the picks in college and pro ranks never actually get set -- and that my guys are to learn from this. I will also use the term "pick & roll/slip if available" over and over so they are always looking for this. I teach that the person equally likely to be open is the screener. The Flex as described gets some movement and screens going so they don't just stand around, but there are many roll/slip opportunities early into the offense that the outlined play just ignores completely. 4 on the baseline to roll back to the basket after the initial pick on 5 is a "slam dunk" waiting to be taken advantage of without a doubt. (Still not my favorite offense, though -- I agree.)
Great point, Lee. Any offense can be effective if the players and coach running it take advantage of its strengths. If a defender is going to cheat on screens assuming the outcome, a slip is a great move to keep him on his toes and to run him off of big screens later if he corrects. Any time a defender is sleeping they should be made to pay the price. Especially, as you stated very well, if that results in a direct move to the basket. Good luck this season!!!
This is just the basic pattern. Once players understand the basic pattern there are so many "counters" to what the defense will inevitably do. It's a great offense to teach players how to screen, read, and react both as the passer and the cutter. It also is a great offense to teach players how to read driving lanes and hard first step attacks BEFORE the receive a pass. There is a reason why so many NBA teams run variation of this offense. Most notable Jordan's Bulls (Triangle) and more currently GSW. How do you think they get so many pin downs and flare jumpsuits off the "flex cut" action on the weak side? The pattern is basic, the options are limitless and impossible to guard if taught correctly to smart players.
Honestly, sounds like you just had a bad coach. I love the flex. Some coaches just get too bogged down in their “system” or aren’t capable of teaching kids how to score when a play breaks down
Simple offense, yet very effective against younger defenses. Also great and getting kids used to offensive movement and screen setting, so this is a good one for a younger team to get down befor moving on to a more complex motion offense where correct reads must be made. Awesome diagram, thanks!
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This is an excellent offense. I highly recommend that you teach your players how to cut to the basket when a defender cheats the pass. In addition if your players don't know how to set and use screens this offense is ineffective.
When you're coming off the baseline screen, does it matter if you come off it baseline side or above? This diagram shows it happening both ways. I always thought it depends on how the defender is playing you. That would make the most sense to me. However, I just watched some younger kids learning this the other day, with no defense, and the coach was correcting the kid for coming off the screen the wrong way.
Essentially it's a read and react. Read how the defender defends your cut and from there decide where you should cut. Preferably the cut should be above the screen because of an easier layup once caught. It might be a tougher angle to make the layup if the cut was made underneath the screen.
I'm a freshman using this play for my varsity team and it's effective if they know what to do but if they don't it's a mess and we are running into each other
Just think of the shape of a table, or the Greek letter pie. Everyone is moving fluidly within that shape. Once you get that down, you just need to understand where the screens are happening. It seems confusing at first, but it's really just the same thing over and over again. There's no post-specific role to remember -- everyone is moving in the same path.
My coach is making me watch this until I memorize this
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I just play at the LA fitness and people always run the "person with the ball dribbles to the 3 point line and throw up a prayer, then don't play defense." hahah
Lol i thought i was the only one
I love the way this iHoops stuff with Immersion Media explains the plays. It is extremely clear.
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I hated this offense in high school. The coach left no room to reacting to the defense, forcing passes the opposing team knew were coming. Basketball players should not be drones. Though, this may have been a coaching error, not systematic.
I agree that robotic implementation passes up many opportunities. Robotic implementation of the Open Post has the same issues -- and doesn't even start with the initial screen down low. One thing I will teach day 1 this year is that about 50% of the picks in college and pro ranks never actually get set -- and that my guys are to learn from this. I will also use the term "pick & roll/slip if available" over and over so they are always looking for this. I teach that the person equally likely to be open is the screener. The Flex as described gets some movement and screens going so they don't just stand around, but there are many roll/slip opportunities early into the offense that the outlined play just ignores completely. 4 on the baseline to roll back to the basket after the initial pick on 5 is a "slam dunk" waiting to be taken advantage of without a doubt. (Still not my favorite offense, though -- I agree.)
Great point, Lee. Any offense can be effective if the players and coach running it take advantage of its strengths. If a defender is going to cheat on screens assuming the outcome, a slip is a great move to keep him on his toes and to run him off of big screens later if he corrects. Any time a defender is sleeping they should be made to pay the price. Especially, as you stated very well, if that results in a direct move to the basket. Good luck this season!!!
Thank you!
This is just the basic pattern. Once players understand the basic pattern there are so many "counters" to what the defense will inevitably do. It's a great offense to teach players how to screen, read, and react both as the passer and the cutter. It also is a great offense to teach players how to read driving lanes and hard first step attacks BEFORE the receive a pass. There is a reason why so many NBA teams run variation of this offense. Most notable Jordan's Bulls (Triangle) and more currently GSW. How do you think they get so many pin downs and flare jumpsuits off the "flex cut" action on the weak side? The pattern is basic, the options are limitless and impossible to guard if taught correctly to smart players.
Honestly, sounds like you just had a bad coach. I love the flex. Some coaches just get too bogged down in their “system” or aren’t capable of teaching kids how to score when a play breaks down
I never got the flex while I played vars lol I looked lost there bro lmao...no wonder coach never liked me
lmao
Lmao same but I’m in middle school
I feel the same rn I’m in 6th grade and my coach sent me this video to study lol
lmao that’s me rn got a scrimmage today and i’m a mess im tryna drawing the shit out
My high school basketball practices have this drill and as a freshman, this drill confuses me. I hope this helps for tomorrow.
This is awesome I really appreciate repetition of the video
Simple offense, yet very effective against younger defenses. Also great and getting kids used to offensive movement and screen setting, so this is a good one for a younger team to get down befor moving on to a more complex motion offense where correct reads must be made. Awesome diagram, thanks!
Im here because im dumb af
yo thats crazy same here
Here cause my coach forced me here
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Same lol 😂
Man I Love This Videos! There Very Informative!!!! I Love The Animations Diagrams, Their Good Cause They Show How Offenses and Defenses Work!! Thanks!!!!
My 6th grade team has begin running it. Trying to get it solid before the season starts. If they do it’s going to be rough on teams lol.
Same here, I just suck remnbering plays and this is the hardest one
And in the end we’re at half time without even make a shot.
Gary Williams Ran this Offense at Maryland and it was very great Offense!!
Who's here after our coach told us to watch this for hw
It’s like pass, screen, fill then repeat until the defense gets confused
this is my favorite play
Lol 2 years no likes
flicksz lol I don’t even play basketball anymore
I’m here cuz my coach told us to watch this
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@@drippyd3210 this is so confusing
Ikr
I'm trying to learn more about this offense.
Yo what is the point of this play 🤷🏽♂️ to see how many screen we can set?
it's not a play, it's an offense you moron
Great to run as a set
This is an excellent offense. I highly recommend that you teach your players how to cut to the basket when a defender cheats the pass. In addition if your players don't know how to set and use screens this offense is ineffective.
Who's here bc y'all team is ass In pro am
My coach
Why isn’t anyone talking abt how it sounds like the voice on the pacer test💀omllll
Not really but I see where you coming from
It's so simple
@@maestrokimpembe5965 bro chill he just thinks its easy
@@maestrokimpembe5965 all good lmao
@@maestrokimpembe5965 its easy if you realy take you time on it all it is is screens and movement
When you're coming off the baseline screen, does it matter if you come off it baseline side or above? This diagram shows it happening both ways. I always thought it depends on how the defender is playing you. That would make the most sense to me. However, I just watched some younger kids learning this the other day, with no defense, and the coach was correcting the kid for coming off the screen the wrong way.
Essentially it's a read and react. Read how the defender defends your cut and from there decide where you should cut. Preferably the cut should be above the screen because of an easier layup once caught. It might be a tougher angle to make the layup if the cut was made underneath the screen.
My coach teaches us to cut on the non baseline side so that your screener can get a seal on that person
I'm a freshman using this play for my varsity team and it's effective if they know what to do but if they don't it's a mess and we are running into each other
I grew up running this offense. Works great
game will be 4-2 if there is this much time of possession
are you stupid or something? this is no set play this is a motion
More confusing for me cuz my team has 2 people in the corners instead of one in the corner and 1 on the block
Cameron Bortle,, Same
Also O-H
I don’t really like this but it’s still good😮
anyone here in 2020
Time is 24 second very long
Bro it doesn’t even work
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My 7/8 grade team runs this with ease so it's not necessarily for older kids...
My coach sent me this video-
anyone else's coach making them memorize this or they not playin
Yep
Thank you do much
Why do you screen your own teammates
no you screen the person who is playing your teammate (this is for man defense)
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I’m in 5th grade and my team running this offense
Simple I swear
Same
8th grade basketball???
Same
5th
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2-3zone defense will kill this
Ummmm.....this is meant for man to man defense, not zone. Play much?
thats why you play this against man to man idiot
A little confusing
Just think of the shape of a table, or the Greek letter pie. Everyone is moving fluidly within that shape. Once you get that down, you just need to understand where the screens are happening. It seems confusing at first, but it's really just the same thing over and over again. There's no post-specific role to remember -- everyone is moving in the same path.
Offense is dog shit the defense reads it everytime smh