Peaceful Challenge #39: Expanding The Moon Base With A Fungus Tree Farm
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- We're adding a new tree farm to the moon base area.
There's a community post on my youtube channel regarding the vote about hopper support for crafting tables.
• Post
support this channel:
Patreon: www.patreon.co...
second channel: / @imanghi-ilmangossecon...
Twitter: / ilmango1
Twitch: / ilmango
SciCraft Discord:
/ discord
Outro: Reckless by Olivaw / olivaw Creative Commons - Attribution 3.0 Unported- CC BY 3.0 creativecommon... Music provided by Music for Creators • Reckless - Olivaw
i only expected the peaceful challenge to be a small miniseries, but it's gotten so much bigger! you've brought in a lot of people and the projects just keep getting bigger and more elaborately decorated. i'm really enjoying it, it's currently my favourite minecraft series!
*Hermitcraft fan* has joined the chat
@@iskallman5706 iskall MAN
@@danielwilson9122 HALLLO-ween
To ilmango its a mini series . He is too of an expert minecrafter to understand peasants like us.
@Joshua Barbanel hows he got lazy you weapon
I love how he is now aggressively promoting the autocrafter to force Mojang to introduce it😂😂 but I am really fine with it
We have caves
Now hoppertables
same
thing is about minecraft is its a sand box , please keep in mind the game should cater to every one , and their play styles , if you dont like a certain aspect of gameplay then don't use it , but don't tell others how they should play because you dont like it.
hopper support for crafting tables*
Me too
mango: wants to add something
me: its autocrafting
mango its autocrafting
me: :o
i mean you know it's going to be MBE or crafting table hopper support and MBE would be too big a change
Absolutely yes, you guys already pretty much use bots to auto-place trees for your tree farms, so I don't think an auto-crafting table is too far off from that concept already, I say go for it.
You can do auto-crafting in vanilla:
Just throw the crafting ingredients in lava and dupe the output material.
you can't auto-dupe in vanilla
@@alexanderlea7882 yes you can throw the ingredients in lava then immediately close the window
@@alexanderlea7882 It's the sentiment that counts
Everyone: makes Halloween Special
Illmango: *Big fungus moon farm, a bazillion fungus per hour*
Big chungus
I dont like Halloween so its okay :D
Halloween isn't really a big deal in germany.
this is not an american sitcom
@@ilmango lmao
*sees ancient debris*
Me: "Finally, I can make netherite tools!"
ilmango: "Finally, I can make an automatic tree farm!"
They dont want it to become like factorio? That's a terrible take on a very small, very niche option for gameplay. Why would they limit themselves to specifically avoid increasing automation, when automation enriches the game by a huge order of magnitude? Automation is the far end of gameplay that few players even consider achieving. Increasing longevity benefits all types of players.
@Sacha Allemekinders that's not what keeps older players in a world for a long time after that though. What's been fun for me is the build up, gradual move from manual stuff to automation, and various larger scale building projects.
I agree. The important thing is to just not let automation be at all "easy" to achieve if you're gonna enable full automation.
This example of Crafting Table Hopper Support is great for auto-crafting. Doing complex crafts in it is a real challenge based on Ilmango's prior demo of the feature.
If you're gonna have a Block Placer, make it so the Block Placer itself can not be moved. You'll have to develop complex machines to transport the placed block to the desired location, and even more complex to make a useful structure with it.
I think a more legit means of block breaking automation is definitely necessary. Java users getting this absolutely cheap TNT Duper is BS. Something similar to the Block Placer. Make the Block Breaker immovable, and require the things you want it to destroy to be moved in front of it.
Excuse me... sorry out of the topic question here...... where do they get gunpowder??
@@noname-codm4590 i dont know exactly but i think they get tnt from desert temples then dupe the primed tnt entity using a machine
Bangbang Liu how do you dupe that into items lol?? I will search anyway
The autocrafting is fine for me, but I would really like to see the process of you designing machines for it! Those are my favorite parts of episodes usually. Recently you have been making many farms, but never showed the design process behind it. If I'm honest the constant time lapses are getting slightly boring, so some more designing would be awesome!
You really shud watch Mumbos Video about it. In the end he shows a contraption for crafting comperators and you will see why the developing part would be too much for a Video. And it also shows that compicated autocraftin in Minecraft is quite complicated.
@@vincentrau7428 I just watched Mumbos vid. You do realise its ilmango we're talking about, right? If anyone is able to make automation or creating farms interesting and fun to watch it's ilmango! The mumbo vid was entertaining right? So why wouldn't a designing video by ilmango be fun to watch?
watch cubicmetre autocrafting machines videos, he's from ilmango's patreon server and one of the best guys doing it right now.
I agree
He used to do almost all the designing on video. But then people in the comments got mad for him spending all his time in creative mode. Right around scicraft 100 ish i think. If you go to the comments its literally filled with "WoW mOrE CreEAtivE moDe AGin? JuST PlaY tHE GaME!". He found a balance now where he hasnt scared off viewers like me and you who like watching the design process but also is keeping viewers who are easily bored by the effort. Just trying to shed light on the subject :D
I don’t get why Mojang doesn’t want Minecraft to be “like Factorio” because it already is and so much more. It’s a game about making factories, exploring, mining, fighting and building. The game is so broad in what it can do that it is such a shame that they don’t want to add these features. I say go ahead and use the mods, maybe it will even change the minds of some people at mojang if they see it in action.
factorio devs were people that applied to mojang and got rejected so they did their own game instead
@@marluxiar7231 well not really, Kovarex applied to Mojang, but they just never replied. He later started Wube software which is the company that makes Factorio. So its definitely not like "the factorio devs" were all rejected by mojang or something
Minecraft is a sandbox, I thought the idea was that we can play the game any way we like?
It's commonplace in the game development industry to see game devs/pm's/etc get so overinvolved in the games mechanics that they refuse to let anyone play it in any way that isn't "right". This is basically Jeb to a T. He's never going to allow it because we aren't playing minecraft "correctly" if we automate.
@@JustinHall1468 even though the whole point of minecraft is that there is no "correct" way
i hope mojang never removes the ability to make farms like this. making fully automatic farms and chaining them together takes effort, especially building one thats actually efficient and worthwhile. its not the solution for everyone, especially me who cannot deal with more technical builds. i think keeping things like this around incentivize a more technical playstyle and bring in players looking for that sort of game, without losing the original intended solutions
Yes! Add it! We aren't watching to see you tediously craft this stuff, that's not even something we get to see in your vids. Add the auto-crafting so you have more time to do other things that you enjoy.
Loved the vid. Keep up the great work!
Really want hopper support to crafting tables in vanilla.
Even if it's just taking completed items out of the crafting table, it would be incredibly useful. So, same here I guess
@@jaxonfreeze7882 hopper above crafting table = putting items in
hopper below crafting table = taking items out
this is really simple i hope mojang adds it and i dont see any bugs although i thought of this in 2 seconds LUL
@@tr4deyy612 the amount of bugs would depend on how well it’s implemented just like everything
@@BarginsGalore yeah i would expect
I would be interested in seeing auto crafting in this series.
Me too it would be amazing to see what they can do with that
@@zoltannagy47 do you guys know if there is an auto rafting mod for minecraft bedrock???
@@andybb1500 I’m sorry but I don’t know
I play on Java
@@andybb1500 there isn’t
@@andybb1500 no there isn’t, I’m pretty sure add on support doesn’t allow for complex things like interactions between block entities yet on bedrock
Maybe someone has a crafting table like block that can auto craft with some new add on updates coming for bedrock shown in the newest betas
About the mod that autocrafts add it cuz it makes it so much easier on you and I think everyone agrees
The space theme in this world is awesome. Big props to the builders for designing around the farms!
Absolutely have auto crafting in the peaceful challenge. It adds so many more options for the technical side that we know the scicrafters for and removes unnecessary tedious tasks. Love the content ilmango!
Me : peacefull mode is for children
Illmango : hold my honey block
I would love to see hopper support for crafting tables in this series!
100% on board with the autocrafting addition, when you made it's debut video I instantly hoped somebody would start a series with it one day and I'd be stoked to see you use it!
A lot of people already commented on the auto crafting issue, but i guess i'll comment aswelle anyway. I personnally think this is a great idea, and that it should be in the game. It would both be more interesting for us as viewers to see you make more crazy contraptions, and more convenient for you so that you don't have to manually craft all sorts of things, and possibly get bored of this challenge altogether.
I am absolutely loving this Moon base. That was one of the most satisfying excavation and building timelapses I've seen.
I'm for it! I know the big unique thing about the series is that it's peaceful and working around the limitations is interesting, but why struggle when it's tedious and unnecessary? Plus think of all the cool new redstone contraptions. Like Mumbo's video outlined, it's not even that OP at all.
Ilmango said factorio HE SAID FACTORIO ILMANGO FACTORIO
Farms 10m white science...
Ilmango: now the game begins
Just add the autocrafting Mango, few to none would mind. Not as if someones gonna be mad that they don't get to watch you craft a bunch of items.
Besides more interesting builds
I would probably skip the rest if they do autocrafting. For me personally, the attraction of the peaceful challenge is to see what's possible in the vanilla game. I'm already disappointed they use flexible block placing from tweakaroo to build down. I know why they use it, but for _me_ its close to cheating. But as loads of people know, there is no "right" way to play. So if they decide to do it then good on them. I'll just loose interest.
@@DavidLatham-productiondave tbh it doesnt really change the viewer expirience. What they can do doesn't really change it's more that instead of them crafting a bunch of stuff off camera they build crafting automation on camera
It feels like they are skipping the grind. This game is a grind intensive game. It's a core feature. Ilmango wants to avoid that so they can push and focus on other mechanic boundaries. Without the grind the game experience is vastly different. But as I said, to each their own I suppose.
@@DavidLatham-productiondave there are fun and interesting grinds sure, but mass crafting is one of the most boring and monotone grinds ever, it takes stupidly long to do, autocrafting just lets you grind doing something interesting or fun like building another superfarm or even mining a dessert
@@DavidLatham-productiondave So you would skip the rest if they use autocrafting. Would you like to watch hours of manually crafting items and have it effect the creators motivation and slow down the series since they cant spend time on other stuff?
That's something I really like about mc. "Maybe spending even more time designing a system for it". I really like solving problems using contraptions. Not because it makes life easier, but it's very fun. For example, I spent a lot of time today making a machine to check if a shulker is filled up or not. All that because I had like 30 shulkers I wanted to check that. It would've taken A LOT less to manually check it. But now I have a cool machine that I had a lot of fun designing it.
I don’t see what auto crafting could hurt. Technical players would love it.
Damn i love this series. Your usual stuff is superb, but this is just like another level. Love how you work around the peacefull limits and create beautifull things in the meantime!
I would say yes to auto-crafting.
There is essentially no drawback to it and you can turn brainless grinding into something automatic by putting in some brainpower once. So it is just like normal technical minecraft.
Isn't there even an option to add polls into RUclips?
unfortunately youtube got rid of the poll feature in the videos:/// (they still exist in community posts though!)
they removed polls from info cards :(
Mango has a poll for this
@@honeybeestims That is strange. I watch another guy that does polls frequently and they pop up in my feed, even though they are posted in the community section.
@@racernatorde5318 community posts (including posts with polls) can show up in your feed, they just got rid of the feature that allows creators to put polls *in* the actual videos as info cards
Manually crafting up blocks is just a waste of time that doesn't add anything to the game or videos. Wish Mojang would change its stance on this.
Yup. maybe even as a late game block, like beacons, if theyre so worried about it ruining the experiences for the casual players
I think it should be a late game feature. Like around post enderdragon fight would be good
@@PotatoMC1 Yeah. It could be a special Crafting Table made with Netherite or something. This one would work the exact same but supports hoppers.
@@Ender_Onryo I'd say make it require 1 crafting bench, 1 dragon egg, 3 netherite, 2 redstone blocks, and 2 eyes of ender. should be more than sufficient to mark it as an "end game item" while still making it accessible for determined players.
@@CycloneSP I like the idea of it being really expensive but I wouldn't want it to include the Dragon Egg. Because then there can only be one per world. And most people using it would want more than one in their farms & factories.
Legitimately blown away by how much effort goes into every one of these survival series videos.
Imo auto-crafting should be a part of vanilla, but be either a late-game thing with a crafting table modified with smth found in the nether or end, or it should cost fuel. The fuel option could be made interesting via the extra complexity that you have to supply the right fuel to achieve the correct timing needed for the auto-crafting, replacing the redstone clocking. For instance, with bamboo for fuel you'd only be able to auto-craft 2-item recipes (torches, sticky pistons etc.), dried kelp (edit: blocks) for fuel could time the auto-crafting of 9-item recipes etc.
The Moonbase is looking great! A big advantage of peaceful mode is the ability to build without having to worry about mob spawns, and you all are taking great advantage of that with your End builds!.
Makes you really wish there was a survival feature to block spawns in a large radius.
These are the only things keeping me sane during quarantine.
I like the idea of adding it. The most fun of Minecraft in my mind is playing around with the technical aspect. And that gives a lot to play with.
And I can learn a lot about redstone watching you building cool stuff
These farm decorations are getting crazier and crazier. Your moon base farms are looking awesome, and I’m very glad you guys are putting in so much effort to decorate and not just making large farms by themselves. Its inspiring me to decorate some of my farms, on my multiplayer server. Keep up the amazing work, and continue this series! (Maybe try farming everything u possibly can in peaceful??)
Maybe a balanced compromise is a 3x3 recipe hopper compatible auto crafter , which required some kind of fuel to them. The fuel is especially important because every hopper accessible 'crafting' machine requires fuel that I can think of.
Based on your skyblock series that had autocrafting and MBE I have to say it didn't fit well with vanilla. It is just too broken to be able to autocraft just about everything in the game.. I think your 1.14 skyblock episode 24 'Now It's Fully Automatic' is a good example of both the concept of stringing together multiple farms like you said, and its a good example of what I mean of it being a bit too broken. I know that series also had MBE and without that it would be less broken but I think free autocrafting is waaay too broken
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
Yes add the hopper support for the crafting table to the peaceful series, if it helps cut down on tedious tasks that are necessary why not, I see no downside.
Yes to the crafting mod, that would be so sick
The afk bot must be named FunGuy come on... XD
MAKE AN ITEM CRAFTING FACTORY COMPLEX!!!!! Seriously showcasing carpet mod autocrafting would be amazing since the effort-payoff is not as broken as the current iron golem farm. A new theme for the autocrafting complex would be nice. I still do not know if the carpet mod autocrafting is lag-friendly if several are working all at once in an area.
16:39 mango produces so many resources that it’s literally not worth his time to pick up full stacks that he drops
lmao
on the one hand, I kind of like that this series is basically pure vanilla since your other ones all have minor changes here and there. on the other hand, I want yall to have fun and endlessly crafting the same recipes is not exactly the most entertaining way to spend your time.
Either way, I support your decision. Keep up the great work!
Personally, I would imagine that by the time a player would want an auto-crafting table, they would be in the endgame, so I would have it where it is a modified crafting table, maybe something using Netherite?
Im all for the hopper support. I really like the idea of it and want to see it explored and it will only extend the life of the series.
I've spent some time working with the autocrafting and creating different designs for different uses. It doesn't seem unbalanced to me, and is great fun.
The issues it fixes may only be an inconvenience in most worlds, but at scale, it's game changing in the best of ways. Less time spent on boring item hell and more time actually playing the game
Had an idea for the MBE series involving this auto crafting and making it easy to auto craft things such as shears which have blank spaces inbetween materials.
You could have a way to put in (for shears) iron in the right spot and a filler item to occupy the unused spots in the crafting recipe, then piston push a hopper to pull out the filler materials and move them back to a looping system to re-use them but with the shears themself they get crafted and sent for example to the sheep farm storage.
Just a suggestion that could be a fun thing to explore in MBE
Yes! To the hopper! I wish it was in vanilla, so go ahead
Yep, add autocrafting!
I'd also be a fan of some kind of niche block placing method, some funky way that can place (some more) blocks
I think it’s perfectly reasonable adding auto crafting
I understand how a hopper can insert things to cook + fuel into a furnace, same thing for a brewing stand. As thing only have to be cooked, it is not irrelevant to have them already automatic.
But crafting an item is supposed to be more complex (tie, nail, glue etc IRL)
I would be ok with only a new block used to compact stuff: (Redstone, lapis, bonemeal, ingots) but requiring some fuel to operate.
For the more complex stuff like crafting, I would prefer a mechanism involving villagers: first set a recipe in their UI and then just throw them the ingredients + some emeralds as a payment; after some time they throw the crafted item on the ground (something a bit similar to bartering)
I think the idea of autocrafting is great, and I'm excited to see how you'll use it, if you do.
Obsidian gets destroyed by lava because it is effectively lava which has been cooled down. The heat of the lava just melts it and turns it back into lava.
Ancient debris is fundamentally different and apparently has a melting point greater than that of the temperature of lava.
As iron has a melting point of ~1500 C, that mean the lava needs to be at least that hot and thus the ancient debris and netherrite needs to be made of something that can withstand that.
This would also explain why you need a diamond tool.
Diamond when exposed to air will burn below the temperature of lava, but if protected from the air they can go much hotter before breaking down.
So with the upgrade, you apply a thin coating to the tool/armour which protects the diamond from the air, and which itself can withstand the temperature of lava.
It wouldn't work with other materials (like an iron sword) as they would melt/break down inside the netherrite.
I would suggest tungsten (due to its high , but that doesn't allow with gold (unless gold isn't actually gold).
Assuming the scrap is a pure metal, then the candidates include Hafnium, Tantalum, Vanadium and Niobium. I think Hafnium is one of the better candidates.
If adding the hopper support to crafting tables helps all of you make content more smoothly then I am 100% on board. I think we can implicitly fill in the gaps with manual crafting and focus on the awesome farms y'all are making :)
I'm excited for the addition of autocrafting to the series from now on. It should really be a feature for vanilla anyways, I don't get why it shouldn't.
One of the many things I appreciate about your videos is the variety in timelapse music.
I understand why a lot of people want hopper support for the crafting table. And the argument that the furnace and brewing stand have hopper support is a good one, but the crafting table is so much more complex than the furnace or brewing stand. The furnace needs 2 inputs and gives one output, the output always being in the same slot. The brewing stand is the same with 3 inputs and 3 outputs that are in isolated slots. But the crafting table has 9 inputs and the way the you show it all 9 inputs slots are also output slots. Once again I do really like this feature I just think that mojang has no obligation to add hopper support for the crafting table
I love how they are so good at red stone and then to flex even more they create builds that are this amazing
Im drunk sitting on a toilet waching this while people knocking on the door, thats how much i love the series
now it makes perfect sense dat glotz is thinking about replaying starbound^^
what an awesome buld!
Before when I heard "auto crafting" it sounded too moddy to me, but when Mango explained it a few episodes ago by pointing out that he just means hopper support to crafting tables with set recipes, and we already have hoppers interacting with brewing stands, furnaces, chests, etc. then it really does make sense. I'd love to see some vanilla-style auto crafting mods and hopefully Mojang reconsiders.
Seriously, the fact that you COULD automate just about everything doesn't mean every player WILL. It's perfectly balanced because it takes so much effort to make these creations.
I did a quick browse of CurseForge and "Crafting Automat" by Loldoggy seems to be the best! (At least in terms of simplest and closest to vanilla.) Unfortunately I think it's only for Forge, not Fabric.
But oooh Carpet Mod includes it? nice
I'm binging these series as much as possible. Love it!
I am all for the hopper support for crafting tables as I feel it should be a base game thing anyway.
I think it's a very good idea to add hopper support for crafting tables as a really valuable proof of concept ! c:
Yes use the autocrafting !! That seems so fun!!!
I'm begging you Mojang! Put that Hoppersupport in Vanilla!
You should totally add the hopper supported crafting table, it should be in the vanilla game anyway so its nice to see and promote!
8:50 amazing edit with the music calimg down for a pause right at the transition between digging and building.
Nice to know that even IlMango projects can start off with an unintentional bang, just like most of my projects that involve TNT.
I would LOVE Minecraft to be a little more like factorio. just hopper support with crafting and this game would be 11/10. You wouldn't have to play it that way either, that's the beauty of Minecraft. It wouldn't be forced upon anyone, it lets those who love redstone and automating to do so, while enjoying the beauty that is Minecraft.
Would be fun to see the hopper crafting table in this series! :)
We need factorio series with this guys
Omg yes! I'd love to see Mango go full overvoard and build a 'small' 10KSPM base :D
I think ilmango likes how it is hard to automate and how the you have to work to do it
I dont think factorio is anything like this? I don't think he would enjoy it
@@Elyzeon. are you not seeing how this guy plays minecraft?
@@nicolaslinopereira677 I am and it's not how factorio is played.
Would love to see what you guys can do with autocrafting, from what i've seen the implementation seems pretty fair and requires a lot of effort rather than being overpowered, and i'd rather see videos of interesting autocrafting contraptions being built than have you waste hours offscreen on manual crafting. Heck, throw in movable block entities too while you're at it, i want to see what you can do with it in practice!
Oh forgot: aside from the innovativeness of some of your farms, this moon base looks really impressive!
I am all for the auotcrafting block with an input like the crafting table gui which represents the recipe and hoppers to feed the materials and collect the output.
The autocrafting is a really nice idea👌👍
I was expecting a poll 😁 Would love to see autocrafting and the expansion of farms through it.
Yes, do the hopper support. It would be way more interesting and make it easier for you to play.
i vote yes for autocrafting like that, its not modded autocrafting which is super easy. This is much more complicated becuase you have to feed the crafting table with hoppers and put items in the right order instead of just putting the recipe there and leaving it to craft
Can you really craft honey blocks and shears without also adding MBEs? I'm in favour either way, I'm just now curious if there is a way to craft complex recipies without MBEs? If there is I'm sure you would know!
I think this should be possible. It could work by alternating the function of the hopper below the crafting table as an item filter to remove the filler materials, and as a normal hopper to remove the crafted item.
To switch the hoppers 'mode', you would need to remove the sorting items (5 different items, one for each slot) and add them again afterwards.
@@g4me-time524 or just move the crafting table between the two hoppers with a piston
I vote yes! Add hopper support to the crafting table.
I like the idea of adding that feature. It just ads more interesting stuff
Even if they won't add an auto crafter, a compressor table would be great which could take 2x2 or 3x3 of the same item and auto craft to help with storage. I feel that would be genuinely useful to most players.
I don't get Mojang sometimes. "You can make anything you can imagine in Minecraft" but not like in a factorio way, that's too much, we don't want that.
It's so limiting.
This series really shows what Minecraft is capable of, and just adding autocrafting would really just enhance it. And it's not like the average player will use it, since more advanced crafting recipes are fairly hard to "encode" with redstone. It's just one of those things that should be supported to fully embrace the creative side of the game. If someone wants to do autocrafting, they should be able to.
This would be awesome to have! It would be awesome to see the complex systems on this!
I said it last episode and I'll say it again , its ur series as long as it makes you guys have fun ( and less annoyed by the grind ) then do it. I've been there crafting thousands of items isn't fun at all.
welp, the last time I checked in we were building an automatic crop farm with a honeyblock slime machine... how far have we come!?
'we only want to add a small bulk storage', 'a little bulk storage'
... ilmango has finally become a caricature of himself
you definitely should add hopper support to the crafting tables. the fact that it's not already in is surprising tbh.
I think you should add hopper support for crafting tables to the peaceful challenge.
I would like to see auto crafting in the peaceful series
TBH I feel like you should just go full 1.14 skyblock, add the movable tile entities and increased dispenser support too. Also the chainstone would definitely be a cool addition that didn't exist back then. I think everyone on the server and most viewers on YT agree that these are cool features which should be in the vanilla game to begin with.
GO FOR IT. Autocrafting would be sick!
Mojang: we won't add autocrafting.
Ilmango: *fine, I'll do it myself*
That mod is powerful. The challenge is to make the most complete brewing station possible.
Love factorio ilmango glad you mentioned it.
How did u disable block breaking particles?
Tweakeroo mod
Yes, please add the crafting table with hopper support
definitely add auto-crafting, id love to see that.
Yes please do, Id even say you add the movable entity blocks mod as well for even more fun stuff