@@chrisd742 If you need an example from 35 years ago to prove your point you're probably wrong. The passing game in the NFL has been completely transformed since Phil Simms played. There aren't even any players on the Giants who watched him play. There is no comparison to be made.
@@CenkZappa That was only 2 franchise QBs ago. So if the question is "how long do you give your franchise QB to produce" I don't think you can find a better comparison. "The passing game in the NFL has been completely transformed." is completely irrelevant. "There aren't even any players on the Giants who watched him play" is also irrelevant.
Can we please acknowledge that to us we heard them say yesterday that they’re not sure if he will start week 1 but in reality that conversation happened 3-4 months ago. Much has changed since then. I think he’ll be ready to go week 1
Qualifications needed that tell you what kind of QB, in this case Daniel Jones, is one way or another. Questions that need to be asked by every team. Be honest with the answers. Apply these questions to any QB you’re curious about or just don’t know about them. You will be surprised on which QBs pass or fail these questions. Copy the Questions if you want. 1. Health-How many times did the QB miss a Season? 2. Does the QB Consistently Win games enough to reach Double Digit(10+) won games each Season? 3. Do opponents fear your QB & Team when the new schedules are presented and do they mark your game as an L or a W? 4. Is the QB ever listed on the Top 10 consistently? The NFL Top 100? 5. How many Division Titles have been won with the QB? 6. How many trips to the Playoffs did the QB make? 7. What is the QB’s Win/Loss Record? Are there more Wins than Losses? 8. Has the QB gotten any Awards such as Pro Bowls, All Pros, or Rookie of the Year? 9. Does the QB have a high Success %(At least 50%+) based on the way he throws to Wide Receivers? 10. Has the QB thrown 30+ TDs(Only Passing TDs)? 11. Has the QB ever thrown for 4,000+ Yards?(The ball is thrown much more during the past several years)
Iv'e said this, even Eli's last/dJ'S rookie year they wanted Eli out and DJ starting after a few games. Wanted Jones to sit the season and build the team around him before you let him start.
Tiki I ❤ u.. u are one of my favorite Giants of all time, no matter how you left. Danny had a pretty good season for Daniel and I wouldn't say really "damn" good either but I understand you have to stand with the franchise on this. Appreciate you all the same.
You're all wrong. First of all Schoen said that months ago. Daniel is progressing ahead of schedule and in fact it has been said that he will likely be ready for training camp. Schoen also said that Daniel's tough season was not his fault. And they have addressed, hopefully, some of the issues in the offensive line which will mitigate injuries.
If they win with DJ, he continues. The injury guarantee says that losses benches him. That's if he doesn't get injured during however many games he does play of course
@@troybenson5767 Tyrod is a Qb that has better command of the team and he played way better than DJ. If Tyrod would have started the year before last we would have made the playoffs still and won more games because the offense wasn’t ran through DJ it was through Saquon. So that means Tyrod would have been able to throw the ball down the field more and the team would have look more explosive. He also had less help on the line but still kept us competitive and the team really rallied behind him after that stitch smell DJ left while he was out there.
Then why don't any of the coaches think that? They deal with both of them every day. They know them inside and out. None of them agree with you. Tyrod's a good back-up but has a low ceiling.
"Daniel Jones, when healthy is really damn good" - Complete Bullsh*t. This fanbase needs to stop telling themselves the lie that the only problem with DJ is his injuries. He is an AVERAGE quarterback. Period.
Whoa, whoa now. Go easy on the average guys! DJ is bottom of the barrel. He might have a few good games cuz they'll try a few new things with the new players, but after everyone has film on this "revamped" offense, he'll fall back to reality
@@christopherreed7508 I'm tired of that excuse.. you should be too.. did you know the Giants went two games last season without giving up a sack. One with Tyrod Taylor the other Tommy Devito. My point is the QB plays a significant role in how many sack he will take. DJ is a bum who can't read the field pre or post snap. He can't throw with anticapiation and he holds onto the ball too long
It's time to move off the trash DJ, he is the Giants QB whether you like him or not and it makes no sense of talking crap about Jones, let just see what he can next season and if doesn't get the job done he'll be gone in 2025!
Evan is talking about Andrew Thomas being hurt a lot it’s gonna happen again. What about Tyron Smith for Jets? He’s always hurt so expect it to happen even more than Thomas. Not good for Aaron Rodgers.
Hating Jones is one thing, but not rooting for him to do good is another thing. I don't care what you think of him root for your team to win games. It's the, I told you so, people that want him and the team to fail, just to prove they are right. That's immature at best.
@@JohnPArguetathe reach is crazy, if u would of said “which rb play better this year” I can agree with you. BUT u throwing in last year stats just shows the bias in you 😂😂😂😂. U wanna make sure you’re right 😂
Why does everything have to be perfect for DJ in there eyes to make him good I don’t understand stands some of the Giants fans logic. We will still suck ass and blame the line for a Duke qb this is insane!!!!
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If you have to ask this question going into year 6. You already know the answer.
Thank you.
Exactly
Like Simms right?
@@chrisd742 If you need an example from 35 years ago to prove your point you're probably wrong. The passing game in the NFL has been completely transformed since Phil Simms played. There aren't even any players on the Giants who watched him play. There is no comparison to be made.
@@CenkZappa That was only 2 franchise QBs ago. So if the question is "how long do you give your franchise QB to produce" I don't think you can find a better comparison. "The passing game in the NFL has been completely transformed." is completely irrelevant. "There aren't even any players on the Giants who watched him play" is also irrelevant.
Can we please acknowledge that to us we heard them say yesterday that they’re not sure if he will start week 1 but in reality that conversation happened 3-4 months ago. Much has changed since then. I think he’ll be ready to go week 1
Qualifications needed that tell you what kind of QB, in this case Daniel Jones, is one way or another. Questions that need to be asked by every team. Be honest with the answers. Apply these questions to any QB you’re curious about or just don’t know about them. You will be surprised on which QBs pass or fail these questions. Copy the Questions if you want.
1. Health-How many times did the QB miss a Season?
2. Does the QB Consistently Win games enough to reach Double Digit(10+) won games each Season?
3. Do opponents fear your QB & Team when the new schedules are presented and do they mark your game as an L or a W?
4. Is the QB ever listed on the Top 10 consistently? The NFL Top 100?
5. How many Division Titles have been won with the QB?
6. How many trips to the Playoffs did the QB make?
7. What is the QB’s Win/Loss Record? Are there more Wins than Losses?
8. Has the QB gotten any Awards such as Pro Bowls, All Pros, or Rookie of the Year?
9. Does the QB have a high Success %(At least 50%+) based on the way he throws to Wide Receivers?
10. Has the QB thrown 30+ TDs(Only Passing TDs)?
11. Has the QB ever thrown for 4,000+ Yards?(The ball is thrown much more during the past several years)
It's crazy to me how people dont realize DJ had no chance. Eli had to deal with the same issues and the fans turned on him too
Iv'e said this, even Eli's last/dJ'S rookie year they wanted Eli out and DJ starting after a few games. Wanted Jones to sit the season and build the team around him before you let him start.
Trashy O-line play for 5yrs
Giants had editorial control so we don’t really know if John Mara isn’t making decisions
Tiki I ❤ u.. u are one of my favorite Giants of all time, no matter how you left.
Danny had a pretty good season for Daniel and I wouldn't say really "damn" good either but I understand you have to stand with the franchise on this.
Appreciate you all the same.
Daniel Jones skill-set more closely aligns with that of a career back-up than it does to the of an elite QB.
Pretty much sums up most quarter backs in the league. There may be only a handful of elite quarterbacks out there or even less.
I think these guys don't know. When Shoene spoke about Dj not being ready for 3 games. This was before the draft. 😂😂
Biggest front office blunder I’ve ever seen this team make was drafting this scrub smh
Agreed. He was referring to DJs rehab progress. It was too early to know.
@@dre2k188They should have never drafted Saquon. They should have drafted Josh Allen
@@cpaghdal Shoene wasnt running the team back im sure he would've now theyre stuck with another year of mediocrity
If you can get a competent offensive line to block for him maybe he can get a full season in 💯
You're all wrong. First of all Schoen said that months ago. Daniel is progressing ahead of schedule and in fact it has been said that he will likely be ready for training camp.
Schoen also said that Daniel's tough season was not his fault. And they have addressed, hopefully, some of the issues in the offensive line which will mitigate injuries.
This is what happens to every running quarterback. Why are you surprised that he is always hurt?
Joe Shoen said that months ago Tiki. Not 2 days ago. This is b4 the the draft
😂😂😂 ridiculous
Facts
Daniel Jones is done after this season.
If they win with DJ, he continues. The injury guarantee says that losses benches him.
That's if he doesn't get injured during however many games he does play of course
I think we can all agree whether you a Stan or a giants fan, DJ has a lot to prove this year.
Tyrod is better than DJ plain and simple.
I don’t see it
Yeah, but he’s always hurt. Maybe hurt more than Jones
@@troybenson5767 Tyrod is a Qb that has better command of the team and he played way better than DJ. If Tyrod would have started the year before last we would have made the playoffs still and won more games because the offense wasn’t ran through DJ it was through Saquon. So that means Tyrod would have been able to throw the ball down the field more and the team would have look more explosive. He also had less help on the line but still kept us competitive and the team really rallied behind him after that stitch smell DJ left while he was out there.
you know nothing about football
Then why don't any of the coaches think that? They deal with both of them every day. They know them inside and out. None of them agree with you. Tyrod's a good back-up but has a low ceiling.
Year of the crow 🐦⬛!!!!!
I really like listening to Tiki. When he left the Giants, I couldn't stand the guy. You learn to appreciate his takes on certain topics.
"Daniel Jones, when healthy is really damn good" - Complete Bullsh*t. This fanbase needs to stop telling themselves the lie that the only problem with DJ is his injuries. He is an AVERAGE quarterback. Period.
Whoa, whoa now. Go easy on the average guys! DJ is bottom of the barrel. He might have a few good games cuz they'll try a few new things with the new players, but after everyone has film on this "revamped" offense, he'll fall back to reality
💯 I don't understand why so many of my fellow Giant fans are still drinking the "Danny Dimes" kool-aid.
Tommy DeVito isn’t bad, but he was made to look a lot better than he is with that simplified, Vanilla offense. That offense won’t exist this year
Yes theyll get answers, unfortunately they wont like the answers.
omg they shading 26 this is crazy
Year 6 for Fs sake!
Let’s do it! DJ will lead this team!
6 years without an offensive line.
@@christopherreed7508 I'm tired of that excuse.. you should be too.. did you know the Giants went two games last season without giving up a sack. One with Tyrod Taylor the other Tommy Devito. My point is the QB plays a significant role in how many sack he will take. DJ is a bum who can't read the field pre or post snap. He can't throw with anticapiation and he holds onto the ball too long
He stinks when healthy
It's time to move off the trash DJ, he is the Giants QB whether you like him or not and it makes no sense of talking crap about Jones, let just see what he can next season and if doesn't get the job done he'll be gone in 2025!
he will get the job done cause he's a tough winner and competitor!
@@healthyone100this isn’t a Disney movie lmao
Why do people refer to speaking facts about someone as trashing them? Lol
Exactly! People have to deal with the fact he’s the QB this year. I hope he lights it up
@@RevolutionaryEdits I hope I hit the lottery! Lol
Tiki is wrong
Daniel jones is not a starting nfl qb
That's clearly incorrect, he's starting for the Giants.
Evan is talking about Andrew Thomas being hurt a lot it’s gonna happen again. What about Tyron Smith for Jets? He’s always hurt so expect it to happen even more than Thomas. Not good for Aaron Rodgers.
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Or Aaron Rodgers for more than 10 plays?? Make it make sense?? 😂😂
Tiki is delusional
Let's Go Jones....
🗑️🗑️🗑️
Should be a solid year for him, let’s go!
@@troybenson5767 based upon what evidence? Hear this BS every offseason then he comes out and gets shut out by 40 smh
@@just908blaze1 yeah yeah we hear it all the time. Talk your shit after the season not before.
Hating Jones is one thing, but not rooting for him to do good is another thing. I don't care what you think of him root for your team to win games. It's the, I told you so, people that want him and the team to fail, just to prove they are right. That's immature at best.
Giants should copy the Jets. Get broken down over the hill QB every other year.. All three Giant QB injured last year.
Year 6 😂
Evan Neil starting is a joke lol
Who gets injured first; Jones or Barkley?
Probably Barkley but hoping neither one gets hurt
Great question!
None, the question is: who will play better jones or Barkley 👀.
My money is on saquan.
@@ggraham852not the right question. The question is which RB will play better on the NYG.
Singletary this year vs Saquon last year stats.
@@JohnPArguetathe reach is crazy, if u would of said “which rb play better this year” I can agree with you. BUT u throwing in last year stats just shows the bias in you 😂😂😂😂. U wanna make sure you’re right 😂
Why does everything have to be perfect for DJ in there eyes to make him good I don’t understand stands some of the Giants fans logic. We will still suck ass and blame the line for a Duke qb this is insane!!!!
Daniel Jones sucks, the fact that he was given the contract at all proves the league is fixed and the Giants drew a short straw
DJ is good enough ....... good enough for what ???? to win you a game like a Drew Lock he is not the future as well.
What is this geek doing wearing a OMG Mets shirt makes me want to root against Mets even more. Mediocre franchise.
This is a horrible take DJ is horrible