The colonies should have borders that are as convoluted and complicated as the borders back home. If London and the city of London are two different administrative entities. New York City should be right next to Jersey City but somehow be separate cities.
Oh wow that's my 360 photo at 8:52!!! (I've taken one at almost every subway stop a few years back haha) Edit: noticed it was the thumbnail I'm honored 😭
Toycat: Look at Long Island Me, a Long Islander: looks up at the sky to say hi to Toycat Also your pronunciation of Hoboken was spot on, as someone who used to live in Jersey City. And yes, you can call it the PATH. That's what we all call it. But it's the acronym for Port Authority Trans Hudson. Jersey City and Hoboken are quite convenient places to live (and cheaper to live in Jersey City than NYC). Jersey City has consistently been ranked among the top public transport cities in the US. And it's no surprise when you realize you can pretty much live there without owning a car (same goes for NYC except certain areas). You have the light rail, dollar vans/shuttle buses, NJ Transit buses, PATH, NY Waterway ferries, so many transportation options. Meanwhile on Long Island, you pretty much do need a car. No surprise Long Island has notoriously bad traffic
Yeah but I'd much rather just drive my own car but you cant' do that because traffic is terrible. Traffic is terrible because there's too many people. I'm not even sure why there's so many people, there's much cheaper places to live in the country that aren't so crowed with people.
As a New Yorker, NJ can have'em. We literally don't care. The only thing they have going for them is that the Wu Tang Clan is from there. Had it not been for that they would've been long gone.
“State shape sucks” yeah it’s weird but I’d much rather be unique then them rectangles out west. Also Long Island is shaped like a fish which is cool!!!
As he pointed out that going from West to East is like running out of space for new states, you could go the other way. Going from East to West is like running out of ideas for unique shapes.
Fun fact about NY state's strange shape: if you're in far southwestern CT, if you go north, south, east, or west, the next state you'll be in is New York. Fun fact about NY city's strange organization: if you're in Manhattan, you're in the County, City, and State of New York.
Another interesting thing I found is(as an upstate New York resident) is that old cities like Utica and Syracuse tried to have a nyc feel to them, a lot of the downtowns feel like scaled down versions of old town nyc and I think that’s cool
Even though I live in nyc, I completely agree with most of the things being said. The only thing I don’t agree with is measuring distance by public transit.
The Eastern states came first and had all sorts of boundaries drawn up colonials in pubs. When they all sobered up....they learned to not have goofy boundaries
They learned to not have goofy boundaries, leading to basic simple state border lines, ultimately leading to generic and underwhelming grid style city design
Staten Island, the forgotten borough... the Impractical Jokers are the best thing to come out of there. While the majority of visitors go to the NY part of Ellis Island, it is possible to do a tour of the lesser visited (for obvious reasons) abandoned hospital on the NJ side. 90-minute tours will let you see areas of the unrestored buildings
I’m going to blow your mind: Nicole Malliotakis holds the 11th congressional district...that covers Staten Island...and parts of South Brooklyn. Go figure.
Never lived in NYC, but I visited 10 times while I was dating a girl from Brooklyn. We went all over, from Rockaway Beach to Manhattan, to Queens, to Bronx to Coney Island Intense is a good word to describe NYC, especially the traffic. The vibe changes as you cross the East River.
Yeah, I live in New York, but it's about a 6 hour drive to NYC. NYS has such a weird population distribution, Buffalo is a lot more like Canada than NYC
I’m actually from North Bergen so this was really fun to watch as someone who basically lives right next to the city. On a side note, I was hoping that when you were looking at the city borders that you would click on Gutenberg because it’s legitimately four blocks long but holds 11k people and it’s really funny.
Also from NB and I was waiting for him to name drop north bergen since it was right there on the map lol. Hope he doesn't believe those public transportation time estimates, those are strait up lies lol, expect delays and cancellation frequently.
it’s actually shaped like this because nyc is just made up of counties that came together so actual towns can’t really join or opt out like i live on long island and and we have two counties not part of the city and two that are and new york’s borders are some of the best city borders in the country
I joked once that Staten Island should just be banished to New Jersey because it is so weird. It even voted Trump in the 2020 election, unlike the rest of New York City, which is so weird.
@Rusty Shackleford yeah who cares about staten island, it's just a suburb, we should sell it to france as an overseas territory or something, upstate doesn't want it, new yorkers don't want it, jersey doesn't want it.
I recently from Atlanta to NYC for work last year. I decided to move to Weehawken (right across the river from Midtown Manhatten). It is kind of crazy that all of Hudson County, NJ isn't part of NYC. It takes me 15-20 minutes on a bus or ferry to get over to Manhatten. Meanwhile, the apartments we could afford in Brooklyn were 45-50 minutes away from where I work in Manhatten. The only interesting fact about Weehawken is that this is where the "Burr-Hamilton duel" took place in 1804 between Aaron Burr, at that time the sitting Vice President of the United States, and Alexander Hamilton, the former Secretary of the Treasury.
Excited for you to move to NYC. I visited in September 2019 and had an incredible time. Since then, I've been watching RUclips videos of NYC apartments and just daydreaming of those morning trips to the bodega and having the entire materialistic world a single train ride away. What I'm trying to say is let me email you my paystubs lmao.
That big bridge you mentioned is actually a tunnel called the Hugh Carey tunnel but better known as the battery tunnel. Also, I know people that live in Staten Island and actually commute through NJ (Bayonne) to get to Manhattan every day.
Towns in New England are also really weird in that there is no space between towns. The border of one town is where the next town begins, and it doesn’t even matter if there is a settlement there.
Hey Toycat, check out the slimjimjammer channel. He's a Brooklynite who can teach you how to do a Brooklyn accent, which will come in handy. (As opposed to your semi-Southern accent.) And the guy's pretty funny.
Another Strange Geographic oddity in New York is Fisher's Island. it is officially part of the State of New York but it has a Zip code Corresponding to the Neighboring state of Connecticut, they also do not have a Direct Ferry from New York but one coming from New London only
As a Western New Yorker (NOT WEST NEW YORK THAT WAS SHOWED IN VIDEO) our major cities are Buffalo and Rochester. The cities are alot different and I agree with lots of thing in this video
You should see São Paulo. The city is shaped like a wolf head with an enormous neck and snout. The South Zone stretches so far away there are indian reserves with city limits.
One of my friends was in high school when 9/11 happened and he was living in New Jersey. He went out for a smoke, looked across the river and saw the first plane hit the tower and was like nope and ran back to school.
One of my favorite examples of a weirdly shaped US city is San Diego, CA. SERIOUSLY, LOOK IT UP! 90% of the city is packed together in the North on the coast; but then the 10% of the city that borders the Mexico is completely separated from the rest of it and has multiple smaller cities stuck in-between. It takes 15 minutes to get from the Southern tip of the Northern part of the city to the Northern tip of the Southern part of the city. Also, SD claims the San Diego Zoo Safari Park and some random land to keep it contiguous; yet there's not a single direct road connecting those two parts of the city. You have to drive into Escondido, CA to get from the main part San Diego to it's own zoo (unlike the example in the video with Denver and its airport). Likewise, San Diego randomly claims some parts of the 78 and not others, making it so that if you drive from Ramona to Escondido, you enter and leave San Diego three times! Back to the coast, SD reaches across the bay and takes large chunks of coastline, both on the Pacific side, and the bay side, from the city of Coronado, the only major civilian settlement on that peninsula. Lastly, San Diego claims all of Lake Hodges despite having very few of its residential or developed areas nearby other than the tourist sites related to the lake, and despite Del Dios and Escondido both being closer to the lake.
21:43 the Oranges of New Jersey are named for the royals of Netherlands, Orange County New York too. In California and Florida, each state have an Orange County, named for the fruit.
@@christinschumacher2143 yeah fair, those on the way far end are better off by bus. That said when he referenced this, he was close enough to St. George to take the ferry
I live miles east of Syracuse New York, NYC is around 270 miles away from me. I've been to the city once for a Yankees game. its pretty awesome in the city as long as you know where you are going and know where not to go.
Most everyone that lives on Staten Island takes the Staten Island Ferry to the island of Manhattan. Which is Free. There are above ground trains (MetroNorth) that run North from Grand Central station to Westchester County NY, and to parts of Western Connecticut. Or you can take the East bound above ground trains to parts of Long Island (LIRR) from Penn station. Here you can also take the "long distance trains" (Amtrak) to other major cities in the US (Boston, Philadelphia, Washington DC, etc.) There are also massive tools on almost all the bridges and tunnels that transverse the city. There's no sales tax in New Jersey.
I like in the suburbs of NYC and I can say public transport is basicly useless just 20 mi away. I can take a train into the city but if I wanna get 2 mile north I have to change at Newark. The car ride is 20 minutes and the bus service doesn’t happen really as they just run with the trains. All that to say NJ transit sucks and I wanna be able to take the train to Summit.
2:38 I heard from another big youtuber that the island was split almost in half between the two states, having the statue on the New York side, and the gift shop on the Jersey side.
While you’re out here this summer, you should check out that Rhode Island / New York border island (Block Island). It’s my fav place to vacation in the summer, you can get there by ferry. Beautiful beaches and a small, lively island that is very accessible by bike. Highly recommend!!
Also about the subway maps, London is a larger city than NY and the tube system is less intricate than NYC’s subway system. Therefor, by design, the nyc subway systems map which is going to be more dense despite its abstraction. While I believe there is room for critique on the map Vingnelli associates designed in comparison to the tubes map, I believe in a vacuum, the abstraction created by Vingnelli Associates is relatively perfect. Also the map you showed of the nyc subway map is the 70s prototype, not the one in use which is actually really impressive.
New York State is a place that I wish was separate from NYC. Upstate NY and the lakes in the Adirondacks are some of the beautiful places in the USA and I would love to live there but the taxes and weird laws in NYS make me shy away from it.
Please come im 15 and im not bragging tho but i do have a apartment in nyc abd a ski house in windham(i use it almost every weekend in the winter so its not like ive used it once lol) ithe catskills the Adirondacks theres no place like upstate ny
11:22 - This little bridge is not open to the public; it is only for the use of National Park Service. The general public visitors ride a ferryboat from Battery-Manhattan or a short ride from Jersey City.
Hey man nothing against you but your really an outsider. The history of places are nuts and there are tons of tunnels. Too many time you say tunnles at bridges. Also your not looking at social factors and who lives where
Ignoring Boundarys and Working together would ALWAYS be the better system in boarder regions for Infrastructure. Not only because of the cost and efficiency side but also because of convenience. However, it often doesn't get done. Especially if structures started over 100 Years ago... In some parts of switzerland, for example Bern Mainstation there are to this day 2 or more stations within the same station or town, often only sepparated by a few meters that are not connected, because at the time the lines where owned by different operators. And it creates a mess, inefficiency and inconvenience. It would be much much simpler if we only had one state owned train company that has restrictions for pricing to avoid monopolisation issues, issues that are here anyway because of the small number of companies and the high costs of getting into the transportaition industry for trains...
No offense to staten islanders, but as a Brooklyner, the only thing that comes to mind when someone says Staten Island is Pete Davidson and highways. Also the reason the map is so weird for the trains is because theres a lot of space in the outer boroughs where there are no train lines, so there is not much of a need to show them, and so there is more emphasis on more train intensive areas. (MY OPINION)
Even a video titled about New York STATE, with 'City' in parenthesis is actually really just about NYC. Rip upstate NY as usual... :'( (I'm from the Albany area)
Three things, the primary shape of New York is a consequence of the Hudson River basin, which basically forms its primary North-South axis. The 13 British colonies basically all originally claimed that their borders extended west in a straight line as far as the authority of the British crown reached which is what is going on with the borders of Pennsylvania and New York. The fact that Ellis island's reclaimed land is in New Jersey is a very big deal because the gift shop, and its sales tax revenue, are in New Jersey. The weird shapes of American cities are generally driven by taxes. Cities annex adjoining land because there is something there worth taxing. That is why the Denver airport is in the City of Denver. Check out the shape of Tampa, Florida. Same thing, the bit to the North East was annexed to capture the property taxes from the nice houses there.
I was driving that route down from Rockland County one time, and I stopped at a gas station- forgetting that New York is where you pump your own gas/petrol. New Jersey and Oregon still have gas/petrol station attendants.
“There’s a lot of interesting reasons why you wouldn’t want to live in New Jersey as opposed to New York.” For any non Americans watching this, this is pretty much the most accurate way to describe New Jersey in one sentence.
@@johnmartinez4576 my dads side of the family is from New Jersey, and while I kinda enjoy New Jersey for short periods because I associate it with a more suburbia style of living, and stuff like hearing my dad, his brother, brother in law, and his brother n laws 2 sons talk about football, or my grandma way overthink what people are gonna think of her thanksgiving dinner or whatever, I don’t think I could live there. When my parents started dating more seriously, my mom actually asked him if he wanted to settle down in New Jersey, and apparently he shit down that idea real quick lol.
@@parispc honestly yeah but NJ is fine and as a resident the only things that people seem to know are wildwood, Atlantic City, Hoboken, the jersey shore house and like being basicly New York or Philadelphia the entire time
The GDP you showed for New York City was for its Metropolitan Statistical Area, which is a pretty large part of the Northeast, including much of New Jersey and Connecticut. MSAs are one of the ways that the US Government ignores certain inconvenient boundaries, but they can also be useful in better understanding the day-to-day lives of Americans. No intranational border is a boundary to the MSAs, not even time zone boundaries.
Apparently the deal with Ellis Island is it used to be a lot smaller and they dredged up and expanded the island and courts decided that since it was dredged up for New Jersey Waters it would be part of New Jersey.
Best to think of New York City area in terms of Manhattan, then Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens, the urban areas of North Jersey and Staten Island, and then the immediate surrounding mostly suburban counties in the area like Westchester/Rockland/Putnam/Dutchess, Nassau/Suffolk (Long Island), and the small cities and suburbs of southwest Fairfield County, Connecticut. That’s most of the Tristate and metropolitan area, leaving out a few counties a bi less connected than the ones mentioned. There’s about a 75 miles radius around the city that has a direct local connection to it in terms of how people live there life in and out of it.
New Yorker here! I'm not offended, our subway system layout is terrilble, and also basically no trains that provide belt service (to go around Manhattan instead of through it, I can think of only one train that doesn't pass through Manhattan, and that would be the G train, but its only in Brooklyn)
I live in New York State and can confirm it is a strange place. I use guns as a measurement of distance and name everything “New York”. You get us so well!
I know it’s not completely comparable because of the size difference, but this video makes me feel so thankful to live in Chicago and have access to the CTA. It’s just such an easy and efficient system to use. I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Chicago has the best transportation system in the US.
Chicago does have the best public transportation system in the country. Even European travelers who have visited New York and Chicago, almost always agree Chicago has a better system as well.
“I assume Christopher Street is an important street” - it’s a reasonable assumption, but it’s actually just a quiet side street, the station entrance is tucked in between 3-story brick apartments and little pizza shops and such
You can call Hoboken whatever you want. Just remember it's HOW-stin street and not HUE-stin street. Welcome to the region. As a NYer, you'll love it here.
"the US has a bigger economy than New York City", this is exactly the type of thing I expected to learn when I subscribed to this channel
"your knowledge has increased"
Me padding my knowledge stats
Yess
Yu Narukami on the Nintendo 3DS
I had no idea, this revelation has changed my life
“New York is a terribly shaped state”
Maryland: “Hold my beer”
Have him do a MD vid!
florida and oklahoma be like: liar
Wisconsin: _Allow me to introduce myself_
@@obsidianking621 not all of us are bad. just cause we live somewhere doesnt mean we are all the same.
Ever notice how Wisconsin is just mini Tanzania
"What's more New York than 9/11" Ngl as a New Yorker that got me sad af but got me laughing lol
I mean, the football team is still called the Jets
@Gaming York no it was ugly
@@bruhz_089 nah mate the Twin Towers were 20 times better then One World Trade Center.
@@ArkSucksAtGames lmao
@@ArkSucksAtGames the old towers looked way better at night and sunset but the new tower looks better in the day
Toycat: these borders are so weird look at the quirky Americans
I wonder who made the borders on the east coast
RULE BRITANNIA! BRITANNIA, RULE THE WAVES!
@@RohanGuptarg Yep hahaha 🤣 and God bless America!
The colonies should have borders that are as convoluted and complicated as the borders back home. If London and the city of London are two different administrative entities. New York City should be right next to Jersey City but somehow be separate cities.
Imagine the confusion in Ellis Island if weed was legal in one of the states
As of last week, weed is now legal in New Jersey, but not New York
@@iancypes5911 I imagine people smoking weed and the NYPD officer standing there cause the guys are 2m from the state line
@@iancypes5911 s tier comment
It is legal in New Jersey...
take a swim and its legal, xD
Oh wow that's my 360 photo at 8:52!!! (I've taken one at almost every subway stop a few years back haha)
Edit: noticed it was the thumbnail I'm honored 😭
😱😱😱
You're famous!
wow what are the chances you would stumble upon this video
Toycat: Look at Long Island
Me, a Long Islander: looks up at the sky to say hi to Toycat
Also your pronunciation of Hoboken was spot on, as someone who used to live in Jersey City. And yes, you can call it the PATH. That's what we all call it. But it's the acronym for Port Authority Trans Hudson. Jersey City and Hoboken are quite convenient places to live (and cheaper to live in Jersey City than NYC). Jersey City has consistently been ranked among the top public transport cities in the US. And it's no surprise when you realize you can pretty much live there without owning a car (same goes for NYC except certain areas). You have the light rail, dollar vans/shuttle buses, NJ Transit buses, PATH, NY Waterway ferries, so many transportation options. Meanwhile on Long Island, you pretty much do need a car. No surprise Long Island has notoriously bad traffic
Never knew you were a Long Islander. Are you still living there?
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Are you just a Cuban version of me. I see you on every channel I watch and you live on the same island as me
Just western Nassau County (where I live). Anything else, yeah.
Yeah but I'd much rather just drive my own car but you cant' do that because traffic is terrible. Traffic is terrible because there's too many people. I'm not even sure why there's so many people, there's much cheaper places to live in the country that aren't so crowed with people.
Yeah the NYC Subway is big
but it ain't beautiful like the Pyongyang Metro
Norf Kawea Numba 1!!!!!
Nothing is
@@TheMrPeteChannel I read this in a WaLuigi accent. It fits nicely lol.
@@nicholas104 ha ha!
The main thing preventing Staten Island from being more connected with New Jersey is the fucking $15 bridge toll.
And the fact that there's only one bus that runs whenever the hell it feels like it.
Yeah i really think that like Coudnt they like not build Manhattan bridge and buuld a bridge to like governers island to stayen island
As a New Yorker, NJ can have'em. We literally don't care. The only thing they have going for them is that the Wu Tang Clan is from there. Had it not been for that they would've been long gone.
Also the Impractical Jokers and Pete Davison
Wu Tan Clan is so cringe
Ralph's Ices is from here to :)
@awfulguitarplucker most the people from that show including the snook were New Yorkers lol
Also us new jerseyans hate that show
@@labadaba5088
You must be really young bcuz they are icons for the right reasons.
Its fun watching ibx's confidence in a subject collapse halfway in a sentence
Damn it Brussels!
“State shape sucks” yeah it’s weird but I’d much rather be unique then them rectangles out west.
Also Long Island is shaped like a fish which is cool!!!
As he pointed out that going from West to East is like running out of space for new states, you could go the other way. Going from East to West is like running out of ideas for unique shapes.
In Australia most of our state borders are straight lines. The only reason we don’t have any rectangle states is because none of them are landlocked
When you try to offend New Yorkers by dissing the subway map but you picked the Vignelli map which everyone hated already.
Yeah no one even uses that map. We use the other one they have all over the subway which is way easier to read.
Fun fact about NY state's strange shape: if you're in far southwestern CT, if you go north, south, east, or west, the next state you'll be in is New York.
Fun fact about NY city's strange organization: if you're in Manhattan, you're in the County, City, and State of New York.
13:55 “What is wrong with Brussels” ok how long do we have
not enough
At least Belgium has township border signs
@@Jasupa This renders my previous comment completely untrue.
**New York is a terribly shaped state**
Maryland: Hold my crab
And Old Bay
Washington a person so nice they named him thrice
Another interesting thing I found is(as an upstate New York resident) is that old cities like Utica and Syracuse tried to have a nyc feel to them, a lot of the downtowns feel like scaled down versions of old town nyc and I think that’s cool
Even though I live in nyc, I completely agree with most of the things being said. The only thing I don’t agree with is measuring distance by public transit.
It works in some cases but on the other hand you have oddities like Staten Island and NJ being 2 hours apart all times except rush hours.
Russia: Same population as the island of Java, same GDP as New York City.
who knew Russia had a population of 3 billion
That belies their true power as a self-sufficient army/intelligence apparatus with the legitimacy of state power, rather like early Prussia
The Eastern states came first and had all sorts of boundaries drawn up colonials in pubs. When they all sobered up....they learned to not have goofy boundaries
They learned to not have goofy boundaries, leading to basic simple state border lines, ultimately leading to generic and underwhelming grid style city design
By that logic , all states are terrible shape. New York has the Great Lakes plus the Atlantic plus Appalachia, so yeah .
Staten Island, the forgotten borough...
the Impractical Jokers are the best thing to come out of there. While the majority of visitors go to the NY part of Ellis Island, it is possible to do a tour of the lesser visited (for obvious reasons) abandoned hospital on the NJ side. 90-minute tours will let you see areas of the unrestored buildings
Impractical jokers swag as hell!
also Wu-Tang Clan and Christina Aguilera
I’m going to blow your mind: Nicole Malliotakis holds the 11th congressional district...that covers Staten Island...and parts of South Brooklyn. Go figure.
It's fine she'll never visit those places are even cares anyway 😉
No one would take the bus from Staten Island to the 9/11 Memorial. Take the Staten Island ferry instead.
Not if you are far the sim4,1,33 are much faster than the ferry/local bus combo the ferry is only useful if you are close to the ferry
Never lived in NYC, but I visited 10 times while I was dating a girl from Brooklyn. We went all over, from Rockaway Beach to Manhattan, to Queens, to Bronx to Coney Island Intense is a good word to describe NYC, especially the traffic. The vibe changes as you cross the East River.
Yeah, I live in New York, but it's about a 6 hour drive to NYC. NYS has such a weird population distribution, Buffalo is a lot more like Canada than NYC
you want Canada? the Adirondacks will give you Canada bud. We got venison, syrup, and of course good ole BattenKill.
I live closer to NYC than New York is, and I'm two states away
As long as you ignore the fact that not too many people in Buffalo speak French.
@@davidobrien2739 Well not too many people in Toronto speak French either
Ok so I live just out side of NYC and go to Buffalo frequently and I 100%agree
I’m actually from North Bergen so this was really fun to watch as someone who basically lives right next to the city. On a side note, I was hoping that when you were looking at the city borders that you would click on Gutenberg because it’s legitimately four blocks long but holds 11k people and it’s really funny.
Also from NB and I was waiting for him to name drop north bergen since it was right there on the map lol. Hope he doesn't believe those public transportation time estimates, those are strait up lies lol, expect delays and cancellation frequently.
Fun Fact: Staten Island is the only NYC borough that skews Republican.
also the only borough in Jersey
damn thats the whole video didnt realize
@@malikshakur1306 Staten Island is in New York not New Jersey.
@@TheMrPeteChannel agree to disagree
@@malikshakur1306 I live near by. I know. Staten island is part of New York
it’s actually shaped like this because nyc is just made up of counties that came together so actual towns can’t really join or opt out like i live on long island and and we have two counties not part of the city and two that are and new york’s borders are some of the best city borders in the country
Yup long island is great.. from there too
yooo that’s dope i’m from LI too
@@matttriglia5337 Suffolk?
@@royzala631
yeah suffolk what about you
@@matttriglia5337 SUFFFOK BRROOOO
I joked once that Staten Island should just be banished to New Jersey because it is so weird. It even voted Trump in the 2020 election, unlike the rest of New York City, which is so weird.
@Rusty Shackleford yeah who cares about staten island, it's just a suburb, we should sell it to france as an overseas territory or something, upstate doesn't want it, new yorkers don't want it, jersey doesn't want it.
A lot of the state also voted red maybe New York City is weird but I do agree with getting rid of Staten Island it’s not a nice place
@@donutcobra3144 My county voted red, I voted blue. Maybe i'm weird.
As a new New Yorker, I think the London tube map is so confusing since it’s not geographical. We like to know where exactly or near we are on the map
Exactly
I recently from Atlanta to NYC for work last year. I decided to move to Weehawken (right across the river from Midtown Manhatten). It is kind of crazy that all of Hudson County, NJ isn't part of NYC. It takes me 15-20 minutes on a bus or ferry to get over to Manhatten. Meanwhile, the apartments we could afford in Brooklyn were 45-50 minutes away from where I work in Manhatten. The only interesting fact about Weehawken is that this is where the "Burr-Hamilton duel" took place in 1804 between Aaron Burr, at that time the sitting Vice President of the United States, and Alexander Hamilton, the former Secretary of the Treasury.
Excited for you to move to NYC. I visited in September 2019 and had an incredible time. Since then, I've been watching RUclips videos of NYC apartments and just daydreaming of those morning trips to the bodega and having the entire materialistic world a single train ride away. What I'm trying to say is let me email you my paystubs lmao.
You sound exactly like the kind of person that I don't want living in NYC.
@@somebonehead Sounds like the only people who would move to NYC since anybody with half a brain and some change is moving out lol
Just about to type 'you think NYC is weird, look at Brussels!". Lol.
“The stories are fake...” “circumnavigated the island...”
CGP Grey is not happy
5:03 yeah you're not from NYC. THAT'S A TUNNEL MY GUY
That big bridge you mentioned is actually a tunnel called the Hugh Carey tunnel but better known as the battery tunnel. Also, I know people that live in Staten Island and actually commute through NJ (Bayonne) to get to Manhattan every day.
Wait until you find out about Marble Hill being a part of Manhattan
today i learned that those fucking cheats at Metro North put a part of manhattan into the same ticket price zone as the bronx
23 minutes : New York
1 minute : *_FREE UNLIMITED COFFEE_*
We need chill time with Toycat every day cuz we love random geography things 🤣
The NY subway map you’re looking at isn’t the up to date one. The current subway map is easier to read; I personally think it’s a genius map.
The one he was looking at was an unofficial map, vignelli-style.
The current map is better than the one he showed, but I still hate it. No consistent curves or angles.
13:29 ah yes, Germany the big, big city
Towns in New England are also really weird in that there is no space between towns. The border of one town is where the next town begins, and it doesn’t even matter if there is a settlement there.
Hey Toycat, check out the slimjimjammer channel. He's a Brooklynite who can teach you how to do a Brooklyn accent, which will come in handy. (As opposed to your semi-Southern accent.) And the guy's pretty funny.
ah yes when i think of nyc i think of some planes flying into buildings
I mean JFK Airport is a pretty iconic
@@abdisaniini i think you're not really getting the concept of an airport
Oh so thats how the express way of shipping people
Another Strange Geographic oddity in New York is Fisher's Island. it is officially part of the State of New York but it has a Zip code Corresponding to the Neighboring state of Connecticut, they also do not have a Direct Ferry from New York but one coming from New London only
As a Western New Yorker (NOT WEST NEW YORK THAT WAS SHOWED IN VIDEO) our major cities are Buffalo and Rochester. The cities are alot different and I agree with lots of thing in this video
Normally you're 3300 miles east of me, but soon you will be just 87 miles west of me. I don't know why that's exciting.
Said the guy who uses stones as a measurement of weight.
3:21 my favorite city, _new hork_
Also New York's borders, in a way, make sense, as the state is based on two main rivers, so it makes sense that it has two outcroppings.
But idk what's going on with the NYC metro
Wow I live in New Jersey very close to NYC and I visit NYC all the time! This was such a great video to watch. Thank you!
Do you like that song whistful Debbie Harry song about sitting in NJ looking at Manhattan across the river?
You should see São Paulo. The city is shaped like a wolf head with an enormous neck and snout. The South Zone stretches so far away there are indian reserves with city limits.
One of my friends was in high school when 9/11 happened and he was living in New Jersey. He went out for a smoke, looked across the river and saw the first plane hit the tower and was like nope and ran back to school.
Ah yes, I do remember having fun whenever the path is down and having to take the boat from Exchange place to manhattan
One of my favorite examples of a weirdly shaped US city is San Diego, CA. SERIOUSLY, LOOK IT UP! 90% of the city is packed together in the North on the coast; but then the 10% of the city that borders the Mexico is completely separated from the rest of it and has multiple smaller cities stuck in-between. It takes 15 minutes to get from the Southern tip of the Northern part of the city to the Northern tip of the Southern part of the city. Also, SD claims the San Diego Zoo Safari Park and some random land to keep it contiguous; yet there's not a single direct road connecting those two parts of the city. You have to drive into Escondido, CA to get from the main part San Diego to it's own zoo (unlike the example in the video with Denver and its airport). Likewise, San Diego randomly claims some parts of the 78 and not others, making it so that if you drive from Ramona to Escondido, you enter and leave San Diego three times! Back to the coast, SD reaches across the bay and takes large chunks of coastline, both on the Pacific side, and the bay side, from the city of Coronado, the only major civilian settlement on that peninsula. Lastly, San Diego claims all of Lake Hodges despite having very few of its residential or developed areas nearby other than the tourist sites related to the lake, and despite Del Dios and Escondido both being closer to the lake.
21:43 the Oranges of New Jersey are named for the royals of Netherlands, Orange County New York too.
In California and Florida, each state have an Orange County, named for the fruit.
A) Staten island is the worst
B) you'd never take a bus, the ferry drops you a short subway ride to WTC
Most people I know that live on Staten Island take the bus or drive because they don’t live close to the ferry
@@christinschumacher2143 yeah fair, those on the way far end are better off by bus. That said when he referenced this, he was close enough to St. George to take the ferry
me, living in new york: >:(
me too >:(
@@isleaf69 hello fellow new yorkers
And i live in Durban, South Africa :D
Me :')
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I didn't know NY has a border with Rhode Island until now!!! Thanks.
I live miles east of Syracuse New York, NYC is around 270 miles away from me. I've been to the city once for a Yankees game. its pretty awesome in the city as long as you know where you are going and know where not to go.
Most everyone that lives on Staten Island takes the Staten Island Ferry to the island of Manhattan. Which is Free. There are above ground trains (MetroNorth) that run North from Grand Central station to Westchester County NY, and to parts of Western Connecticut. Or you can take the East bound above ground trains to parts of Long Island (LIRR) from Penn station. Here you can also take the "long distance trains" (Amtrak) to other major cities in the US (Boston, Philadelphia, Washington DC, etc.) There are also massive tools on almost all the bridges and tunnels that transverse the city. There's no sales tax in New Jersey.
Imagine using public transport, this message is paid for by Rest of the Union gang.
America overall is car centric, not people centric.
I like in the suburbs of NYC and I can say public transport is basicly useless just 20 mi away. I can take a train into the city but if I wanna get 2 mile north I have to change at Newark. The car ride is 20 minutes and the bus service doesn’t happen really as they just run with the trains. All that to say NJ transit sucks and I wanna be able to take the train to Summit.
2:38 I heard from another big youtuber that the island was split almost in half between the two states, having the statue on the New York side, and the gift shop on the Jersey side.
Nope,
While you’re out here this summer, you should check out that Rhode Island / New York border island (Block Island). It’s my fav place to vacation in the summer, you can get there by ferry. Beautiful beaches and a small, lively island that is very accessible by bike. Highly recommend!!
i live in niagera falls, and we should really be two seperate states
@Crossiant Studios Nah fam pretty sure he lives on federal land
Do Texas next aka where you'll be moving to within ten years
All big city borders in Texas look like cancerous blobs.
I know from living here...
I'll be in London in 10 years...
@@Oblivicraft2012 you speak the truth coming from another Texas resident
London, Texas
Also about the subway maps, London is a larger city than NY and the tube system is less intricate than NYC’s subway system. Therefor, by design, the nyc subway systems map which is going to be more dense despite its abstraction. While I believe there is room for critique on the map Vingnelli associates designed in comparison to the tubes map, I believe in a vacuum, the abstraction created by Vingnelli Associates is relatively perfect. Also the map you showed of the nyc subway map is the 70s prototype, not the one in use which is actually really impressive.
There’s a ferry from Staten Island to the financial district where the freedom tower is located in that takes about 10 minutes each way.
25 - 30 minutes
New York State is a place that I wish was separate from NYC. Upstate NY and the lakes in the Adirondacks are some of the beautiful places in the USA and I would love to live there but the taxes and weird laws in NYS make me shy away from it.
Yeah it's depressing. Seeing how Pennsylvania and New Hampshire are doing makes upstate NY feel like a waste of space.
Please come im 15 and im not bragging tho but i do have a apartment in nyc abd a ski house in windham(i use it almost every weekend in the winter so its not like ive used it once lol) ithe catskills the Adirondacks theres no place like upstate ny
11:22 - This little bridge is not open to the public; it is only for the use of National Park Service.
The general public visitors ride a ferryboat from Battery-Manhattan or a short ride from Jersey City.
Hey man nothing against you but your really an outsider. The history of places are nuts and there are tons of tunnels. Too many time you say tunnles at bridges. Also your not looking at social factors and who lives where
If you happen to move to New Jersey, hope to meet you someday and talk about geographical anomalies XD. Central NJ resident here. Nice vid!
'What is more New York than 9/11' -Toycat, 2021
Ignoring Boundarys and Working together would ALWAYS be the better system in boarder regions for Infrastructure.
Not only because of the cost and efficiency side but also because of convenience.
However, it often doesn't get done.
Especially if structures started over 100 Years ago... In some parts of switzerland, for example Bern Mainstation there are to this day 2 or more stations within the same station or town, often only sepparated by a few meters that are not connected, because at the time the lines where owned by different operators. And it creates a mess, inefficiency and inconvenience.
It would be much much simpler if we only had one state owned train company that has restrictions for pricing to avoid monopolisation issues, issues that are here anyway because of the small number of companies and the high costs of getting into the transportaition industry for trains...
As a America I approve of this message
@Krishna Raghavan same
Wow I’ve never had the honor of speaking to a continent (are you north or South America)
An
@@gjdjdtht so I’m a America from a alternate timeline
As a message I approve of this America
Ibx2cat: New York City is weird
also ibx2cat: BUT IM MOVING THERE ANYWAYS
No offense to staten islanders, but as a Brooklyner, the only thing that comes to mind when someone says Staten Island is Pete Davidson and highways. Also the reason the map is so weird for the trains is because theres a lot of space in the outer boroughs where there are no train lines, so there is not much of a need to show them, and so there is more emphasis on more train intensive areas. (MY OPINION)
I also have to point out that NYC is shaped weirdly because each borough is a different county, and they decided to join together.
Even a video titled about New York STATE, with 'City' in parenthesis is actually really just about NYC. Rip upstate NY as usual... :'(
(I'm from the Albany area)
im from Captial Region too, (rural part tho) we never get acknowledged
I heard the steamed hams are really good in Albany.
Southern tier, finger lakes native here
@Naomi Isaac we all did :(
Was eagerly waiting for a toycat geography video
As a New Yorker I'm offended by the title, but as a subscriber Toycat is yes
Three things, the primary shape of New York is a consequence of the Hudson River basin, which basically forms its primary North-South axis. The 13 British colonies basically all originally claimed that their borders extended west in a straight line as far as the authority of the British crown reached which is what is going on with the borders of Pennsylvania and New York.
The fact that Ellis island's reclaimed land is in New Jersey is a very big deal because the gift shop, and its sales tax revenue, are in New Jersey.
The weird shapes of American cities are generally driven by taxes. Cities annex adjoining land because there is something there worth taxing. That is why the Denver airport is in the City of Denver. Check out the shape of Tampa, Florida. Same thing, the bit to the North East was annexed to capture the property taxes from the nice houses there.
I was driving that route down from Rockland County one time, and I stopped at a gas station- forgetting that New York is where you pump your own gas/petrol.
New Jersey and Oregon still have gas/petrol station attendants.
i'm a new yorker, welcome man! the city is pretty shaken up because of covid but we're getting better :)
“There’s a lot of interesting reasons why you wouldn’t want to live in New Jersey as opposed to New York.” For any non Americans watching this, this is pretty much the most accurate way to describe New Jersey in one sentence.
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@@johnmartinez4576 my dads side of the family is from New Jersey, and while I kinda enjoy New Jersey for short periods because I associate it with a more suburbia style of living, and stuff like hearing my dad, his brother, brother in law, and his brother n laws 2 sons talk about football, or my grandma way overthink what people are gonna think of her thanksgiving dinner or whatever, I don’t think I could live there. When my parents started dating more seriously, my mom actually asked him if he wanted to settle down in New Jersey, and apparently he shit down that idea real quick lol.
@@alphawolf4643 As a New Yorker, I would only go to Jersey to go to Cape May. Been there twice, it's pretty much just a better version of Montauk.
@@parispc honestly yeah but NJ is fine and as a resident the only things that people seem to know are wildwood, Atlantic City, Hoboken, the jersey shore house and like being basicly New York or Philadelphia the entire time
The GDP you showed for New York City was for its Metropolitan Statistical Area, which is a pretty large part of the Northeast, including much of New Jersey and Connecticut. MSAs are one of the ways that the US Government ignores certain inconvenient boundaries, but they can also be useful in better understanding the day-to-day lives of Americans. No intranational border is a boundary to the MSAs, not even time zone boundaries.
Apparently the deal with Ellis Island is it used to be a lot smaller and they dredged up and expanded the island and courts decided that since it was dredged up for New Jersey Waters it would be part of New Jersey.
7:19 YES, PATH trains (Port Authority Trans-Hudson) ... formerly known as "Hudson Tubes", as a Londoner, you can say that! ;)
Best to think of New York City area in terms of Manhattan, then Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens, the urban areas of North Jersey and Staten Island, and then the immediate surrounding mostly suburban counties in the area like Westchester/Rockland/Putnam/Dutchess, Nassau/Suffolk (Long Island), and the small cities and suburbs of southwest Fairfield County, Connecticut.
That’s most of the Tristate and metropolitan area, leaving out a few counties a bi less connected than the ones mentioned. There’s about a 75 miles radius around the city that has a direct local connection to it in terms of how people live there life in and out of it.
Currently watching Toycat scroll through a Pret menu. This is my life now.
Lol when you come here actually give Staten Island a try, some people visit and never see all 5 boroughs it
s really cool
New Yorker here! I'm not offended, our subway system layout is terrilble, and also basically no trains that provide belt service (to go around Manhattan instead of through it, I can think of only one train that doesn't pass through Manhattan, and that would be the G train, but its only in Brooklyn)
I live in New York State and can confirm it is a strange place. I use guns as a measurement of distance and name everything “New York”. You get us so well!
I know it’s not completely comparable because of the size difference, but this video makes me feel so thankful to live in Chicago and have access to the CTA. It’s just such an easy and efficient system to use. I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Chicago has the best transportation system in the US.
Chicago does have the best public transportation system in the country. Even European travelers who have visited New York and Chicago, almost always agree Chicago has a better system as well.
As a Ny'er, you guys don't have express trains, which is very bad, please get some and then make that claim ;)
So what I learned today is don't you dare try to work in mainland NYC if you live on Staten Island. Wow what a nightmare that bus ride would be.
As a Staten islander, yeah.
And we don't have a subway we got a kick ass train
“I assume Christopher Street is an important street” - it’s a reasonable assumption, but it’s actually just a quiet side street, the station entrance is tucked in between 3-story brick apartments and little pizza shops and such
riding the path literally nothing happens at christopher street and no subway stations are nearby too so kinda weird station
This video in a nutshell:
Germany
"That's a big, big city"
Belgium
"That's a big city"
NYC
"That's a big mess"
You can call Hoboken whatever you want. Just remember it's HOW-stin street and not HUE-stin street. Welcome to the region. As a NYer, you'll love it here.