the thing is: if the game is (near-perfectly) balanced in the competitive scene, then it is a pleasure to watch the diversity. If there are broken champs they might be fun at first, but as a player you'll be demoted to having to train and pick that op champ time and time again for weeks, maybe even months (aatrox) and as a viewer you'll be seeing the same 20 champs for a month until they really patch things up and 5 outta those 20 champs get swapped
With week 8 behind us now, my best guess is that it comes to a 100T vs Optic tiebreaker, with GG securing 5th outright. A lot of other outcomes wouldn't surprise me either.
I think Sneaky leaving Cloud9 would be a bigger deal, because he's always been there. Yes, he got benched, but that's the only team he's played for. Bjerg played for other teams, and while he's the face of TSM, I don't think he matches Sneaky w/ representing C9.
It would be a big deal, but it's something that probably needs to happen. Because he's not one of the best adcs in the lcs, he's lacking for C9... he pretty much always loses the laning phase, which essentially makes Zeyzal an ineffective support for him and his teamfighting is only on par with the other decent lcs adcs. Fact is, C9 will never win domestically with Sneaky and they'll never have a chance to win anything internationally. Sad, but true, because I really like Sneaky.
@@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV He gets very minimal attention from the jungler compared to other bot lanes. He also isn't the focal point of C9 and never has been, and that's why he works great w/ them. He can survive lane and scale up and play safe, while doing fine late game. ADCs like Zven or Doublelift need treatment if they're on the team, and that takes away from the mid/jungle/top synergy that C9 has right now. Their only weakness currently speaking, is just bad decisions. Sometimes they'll draft terribly, make a bad call in game, or both, and it loses them games that they should easily win. If they learn to be more consistent, they'll be the top team in NA, I guarantee it. Also, if you haven't watched it, you should watch Sneaky's response to the criticism from Travis Gafford and his show. It's on Sneaky's channel
what about this or that with Jatt and the Cap? Would love to see both of them clash since Cap is the most outspoken and hyperactive guy while Jatt is the calm, analytical opposite
i think the biggest part of c9's loss to clg was a bad draft. so while i'd pick c9 in a bo5 in a heartbeat - not just cause fan - i think schedule wise clg has a better last 4. c9 has to deal with FLY who have had a bad split... but were right up there in spring and also run top heavy (but adv. nisqy and sven), then TL who... is TL, then GGS who are just middle... but again are top heavy (only adv to sven this time though), and then OPT who have had a great split with meteos looking amazing most games and crown encroaching on the top 3 midlane spot. CLG on the other hand have clutch (zzz), echo fox (zzz), OPT (exciting matchup) and 100T (zzz.. probably).
They are not in the same situation tho, sneaky is playing bad and if he leaves it's because C9 dropped him, meanwhile bjergsen is the best performing player on TSM so if he leaves it's going to be him choosing to leave.
I'm pretty sure he's just sick. You can hear his voice rasping a bit throughout. He's probably fine for broadcast stuff where he can have a hot water with honey to help but long form like this it stood out a bit. Hats off for him pushing through it
@@ilovetheatf With Sven as the jungler? Sven and Bjerg don't get along in game, Sven even said that Bjerg views junglers as buffed wards. Maybe if they picked up a different jungler that'd work, but I wouldn't wanna give away Svenskaren for Bjergsen tbh
No. C9 are fine with Nisqy. What they really need is a better adc. I really like Sneaky, but he's no longer a major benefit to C9... he's way too passive in the laning phase, he doesn't pair well with a really good engage support like Zeyzal and he's not really good enough at teamfighting to compensate for that. You can't just rely on late game teamfighting to win. They need Sneaky to become more aggressive, or they need a new adc.
@@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV multiple pros have commented and said that c9 has been drafting weak botlanes and focusing on top and mid with jungler pressure. Sneaky has been going even with no pressure or resources put into him. You are just regurgitating ignorant things you heard.
@@sighface4988 Yeah, but that's exactly why they'll never be better than TL. What do you mean 'going even'? Sneaky and Zeyzal get trashed quite often. I just think, as the team that I support, that I would like them to be able to win domestically, go to msi and have a better chance at Worlds. So, no, I'm not regurgitating stuff I've heard at all, I'm just pointing out my problems with the team I support.
The sad thing is that if C9 had a better adc, they wouldn't be in this position. I feel like CLG have a better chance, because their team synergy has stacked up really well. C9 are good, but the bot lane is just not great with Sneaky and Zeyzal. Actually, Zeyzal is really good, but Sneaky just hasn't changed at all. If Sneaky got better, more aggressive in lane, then C9 would look incredible, they'd honestly be neck and neck with TL. But, Sneaky just always loses lane and that hurts them, because Zeyzal is a really good engage support. If they could get leads in bot in the early game, against the other top teams, then they'd be soooooo much better.
Sike bro. Bjerg is literally TSM. Without him idk if I'd even be interested in them anymore. Could easily watch C9 without Sneaky. No offense to him but he's been benched like 3 times now but they won't lose fans because of it. That team is the laid back underdogs of LCS .
Sololaners are clearly scarier. If there's a game with a smurf Vladimir with 4 kills in 7 minutes and 6 stacks of mejai's, the game is legit over and there's nothing to do about it
Smurfing junglers are definitly more inpactfull, as a silver player when i face an platinum or diamond in my normals it feels awful, he's everywhere all the time, he's counterganking the lane my jungler tries to gank 5 fdecs after the gank starts
Junglers are still usually melee champs which makes it more risky the longer the game goes. Midlaners for example have ranged poke, cc and waveclear which makes them ultimately better especially when the enemies have a tanky comp that you can't easily oneshot.
Bjergson should leave tsm. He owes tsm nothing. I feel bad because he’s my favorite player on my favorite team but I want him to succeed. Him leaving will either finally kill off TSM or somehow bring them back to the top.
Thing is that there are no other teams where he would have much more sucess than TSM... TL has Jensen, CLG has PoE and C9 has Nisquy. I don't see a world where you break your team synergy to add bjerg who isn't a big enough difference to really make these teams more sucessful. The only team I could see him go to, still have chances of success and be a huge upgrade would be 100T, But all other teams are just not competitive.
@@hydraavux8636 That might be worse than kicking Stephen Curry off the GSWs. Bjergsen IS TSM, he is THE one and only young superstar kid turned mature leader of TSM. At this point, he'll never mesh with other teams as he loves TSM too much as well. He got lots and lots of emotional investment in and emotional attachment to TSM. I don't like TSM too much, but that guy is their identity. And Bjerg's identity is TSM. tl;dr Bjergsen is TSM, TSM is Bjergsen
I don't think so, I think it was just realism. Everybody knew that Sneaky and Jensen were coming back, and it wasn't because their replacements weren't good, it's just because it was Sneaky and Jensen (We'll ignore Smoothie). Plus, Keith played well during his time in the LCS. I can see why GGS picked him up, especially since FBI doesn't seem to be doing amazing.
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this or that and sometimes Jatt.
i fuck with the vision
This is the solution
I like the sound of that
this is beyond science
I want Jatt back but I dont want Flowers to leave :(
This or That with Cap and Jatt
@@xahhfink Kobe needs no stay too xD
I want This or That or the Other Thing featuring all 3
@@AsgUnlimited Or maybe put Azael in there to make a 2x2
@@DaiKappa no. No Azael please
_that awkward moment when Jatt comes back for This or That_
9:22 you can hear jatt laugh "HA HA" in the back
needs to come back to TOT
Sounded more like Phreak tbh
How about Hide and Seek with Jatt and Phreak?
I wanna see that
U cant, they hidin'
Someone Udunno nice
Phreak? Yikes
ew not phreak, maybe azael
hey @lolesports i got a good idea just bring back the "the breakdown" segment with jatt.
you dont need to thank me just do it, thanks
yeah i would like that... breakdown was a really good series made by riot.
breakdown was amazing.
They continued it for a while after Jatt stopped with Zirene.
Team fight breakdown was better imo
I guess someone *got fired from the balance team*
*Jatt waving at the corner*
Jatt career in the balancing team after he managed to nerf galio,
"Gone,reduced to atoms"
Chad Skarner in the bush. Lmfao
Bring in Jatt for "THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER THING"
Faker is the embodiment of mechanics confirmed.
I feel like he has been for a while. He's good on everything, has never been bad and is the most successful player ever.
"Broken but fun" *I see this as an absolute win*
the thing is: if the game is (near-perfectly) balanced in the competitive scene, then it is a pleasure to watch the diversity. If there are broken champs they might be fun at first, but as a player you'll be demoted to having to train and pick that op champ time and time again for weeks, maybe even months (aatrox) and as a viewer you'll be seeing the same 20 champs for a month until they really patch things up and 5 outta those 20 champs get swapped
This or That with Kobe, Cap and Jatt. PogU
it is an unwritten rule of league, the yasuo on your team will feed the enemy yasuo is secretly faker
With week 8 behind us now, my best guess is that it comes to a 100T vs Optic tiebreaker, with GG securing 5th outright. A lot of other outcomes wouldn't surprise me either.
I'd like to point out that the "Which are you more frightened of" slide also applies to Shaco. Maybe even more than Yas
"Who would win in a B05?"
This: Peak Immortals
That: Team Liquid 2019
This or that or the other that with:
Kobe, Cap and TSM Jatt
The real impact is the smurfing support. They literally carry the entire team
i thought the last slide would be jatt or cap haha
Best series
Kobe and Jatt!!
*Jatt* is the hero we need but the hero we didnt deserve.
I think Sneaky leaving Cloud9 would be a bigger deal, because he's always been there. Yes, he got benched, but that's the only team he's played for. Bjerg played for other teams, and while he's the face of TSM, I don't think he matches Sneaky w/ representing C9.
It would be a big deal, but it's something that probably needs to happen. Because he's not one of the best adcs in the lcs, he's lacking for C9... he pretty much always loses the laning phase, which essentially makes Zeyzal an ineffective support for him and his teamfighting is only on par with the other decent lcs adcs. Fact is, C9 will never win domestically with Sneaky and they'll never have a chance to win anything internationally. Sad, but true, because I really like Sneaky.
@@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV He gets very minimal attention from the jungler compared to other bot lanes. He also isn't the focal point of C9 and never has been, and that's why he works great w/ them. He can survive lane and scale up and play safe, while doing fine late game. ADCs like Zven or Doublelift need treatment if they're on the team, and that takes away from the mid/jungle/top synergy that C9 has right now. Their only weakness currently speaking, is just bad decisions. Sometimes they'll draft terribly, make a bad call in game, or both, and it loses them games that they should easily win. If they learn to be more consistent, they'll be the top team in NA, I guarantee it. Also, if you haven't watched it, you should watch Sneaky's response to the criticism from Travis Gafford and his show. It's on Sneaky's channel
Strong or Weak with Jatt and Phreak
THIS, THAT, OR JATT. Hope to see it
So is Jatt coming back to This and Jatt?
Welcome to This or That with Cap, Kobe and Jatt!
I think it has a better ring to it this way
Hands down I'm scared of my team's yasuo inting
If Mr. Flowers gets kicked off for Jatt I'm gonna be a Mad Boi.
PLEASE BRING BACK TEAMFIGHT BREAKDOWN
everyone misses Jatt so much lol
Can we get breakdown series back?
CHAD SKARNER WAITING IN THE BUSH
TSM JATT LETS GO
10:07 little bug there top left?
what about this or that with Jatt and the Cap? Would love to see both of them clash since Cap is the most outspoken and hyperactive guy while Jatt is the calm, analytical opposite
Jatt came back because he was going to get stuck with the next ryze rework.
This or That with Cap and Jatt inc
anyone else hear someone laughing in the background when the slide about "Why did Jatt return" show up?
Zoe isnt a broken champ at all
Edit: oh wait he meant before the nerfs
TSM Jatt
THIS OR THAT WITH KOBE, CAP N JATT
So relatable at 4:55 hahah
This or that, with Kobe, Cap and Jatt
this or *_J A T T_*
good old times
Excuse me but when they say Jatt is coming back to the LCS, is it going to be as a caster or a player? Thanks
i think the biggest part of c9's loss to clg was a bad draft. so while i'd pick c9 in a bo5 in a heartbeat - not just cause fan - i think schedule wise clg has a better last 4. c9 has to deal with FLY who have had a bad split... but were right up there in spring and also run top heavy (but adv. nisqy and sven), then TL who... is TL, then GGS who are just middle... but again are top heavy (only adv to sven this time though), and then OPT who have had a great split with meteos looking amazing most games and crown encroaching on the top 3 midlane spot. CLG on the other hand have clutch (zzz), echo fox (zzz), OPT (exciting matchup) and 100T (zzz.. probably).
I dont understand the jatt thing with tsm. Did he use to play for them because I've watched them for years and have never seen him.
now sneaky is gone
Sneaky nor Bjergesen can leave. That wouldve been super sad
They are not in the same situation tho, sneaky is playing bad and if he leaves it's because C9 dropped him, meanwhile bjergsen is the best performing player on TSM so if he leaves it's going to be him choosing to leave.
Yes another one over 10mins boys! That means last time wasn't a fluke! Noice
If you're fed mid and every other role is feeding, there's a chance. If you're fed jungle but your lanes are losing, you lose.
If everyone's broken, it's balanced
TSM Jatt is back boiz
This or that with Cap and Jatt.
Where is Jat?
TSM sent out the Jatt signal
This or That with Kobe, Jatt and Cap.
Jatt will sit on the floor in between the two since he has to reclimb the ladder hehe
Owhh well Cap Flowers....I can feel your energy is not the same here.
I'm pretty sure he's just sick. You can hear his voice rasping a bit throughout. He's probably fine for broadcast stuff where he can have a hot water with honey to help but long form like this it stood out a bit. Hats off for him pushing through it
Sneaky stays on c9... and berg leaves tsm... for c9 PogU
They'd win worlds
@@ilovetheatf With Sven as the jungler? Sven and Bjerg don't get along in game, Sven even said that Bjerg views junglers as buffed wards. Maybe if they picked up a different jungler that'd work, but I wouldn't wanna give away Svenskaren for Bjergsen tbh
No. C9 are fine with Nisqy. What they really need is a better adc. I really like Sneaky, but he's no longer a major benefit to C9... he's way too passive in the laning phase, he doesn't pair well with a really good engage support like Zeyzal and he's not really good enough at teamfighting to compensate for that. You can't just rely on late game teamfighting to win. They need Sneaky to become more aggressive, or they need a new adc.
@@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV multiple pros have commented and said that c9 has been drafting weak botlanes and focusing on top and mid with jungler pressure. Sneaky has been going even with no pressure or resources put into him. You are just regurgitating ignorant things you heard.
@@sighface4988 Yeah, but that's exactly why they'll never be better than TL. What do you mean 'going even'? Sneaky and Zeyzal get trashed quite often. I just think, as the team that I support, that I would like them to be able to win domestically, go to msi and have a better chance at Worlds. So, no, I'm not regurgitating stuff I've heard at all, I'm just pointing out my problems with the team I support.
as a yasuo main when someone else locks yas on my team i get nervous
weird black screen appears at 10:00 and 10:07 top left lol
This is the reason they used to do only 6 slides and quickly
Even tho I'm a C9 fan I think clg will get the bye simply due to the fact C9 has TL and optic left to face
Yeah. C9 fan as well, and C9 have a much harder schedule and have been much more inconsistent as a team so far.
sadly i have to agree as well but i know our boys can do it so i still 110% believe they will win it all
AnimeAmvStar FNC will beat them again.
Ur wrong
The sad thing is that if C9 had a better adc, they wouldn't be in this position. I feel like CLG have a better chance, because their team synergy has stacked up really well. C9 are good, but the bot lane is just not great with Sneaky and Zeyzal. Actually, Zeyzal is really good, but Sneaky just hasn't changed at all. If Sneaky got better, more aggressive in lane, then C9 would look incredible, they'd honestly be neck and neck with TL. But, Sneaky just always loses lane and that hurts them, because Zeyzal is a really good engage support. If they could get leads in bot in the early game, against the other top teams, then they'd be soooooo much better.
There should have been a slide....
This or That: Capp or Jatt😂
0:45 you mean like those 3 times in MSI finals?
Kaeel, FinD mE bRoTHeR
You allways scared of your yasuo
CHAD SKARNA Pog
Sike bro. Bjerg is literally TSM. Without him idk if I'd even be interested in them anymore. Could easily watch C9 without Sneaky. No offense to him but he's been benched like 3 times now but they won't lose fans because of it. That team is the laid back underdogs of LCS .
He was benched once and Jensen got benched with him, it wasn't a performance bench either. You're dumb af
TSM JATT
Sololaners are clearly scarier. If there's a game with a smurf Vladimir with 4 kills in 7 minutes and 6 stacks of mejai's, the game is legit over and there's nothing to do about it
Welcome to this or that, with Kobe, Cap AND Jatt?
Love from Viet Nam 🇻🇳🇻🇳
Smurfing junglers are definitly more inpactfull, as a silver player when i face an platinum or diamond in my normals it feels awful, he's everywhere all the time, he's counterganking the lane my jungler tries to gank 5 fdecs after the gank starts
Junglers are still usually melee champs which makes it more risky the longer the game goes. Midlaners for example have ranged poke, cc and waveclear which makes them ultimately better especially when the enemies have a tanky comp that you can't easily oneshot.
This or that with Kobe, cap and Jatt?
This That or the Other with Kobe Cap and the Flower?
All ik is that GGS loss to TSM was pretty fun to watch :)
ALL 3
C9 Bjergsen 2020
I just had a Yasuo in my team that went 2/10...
That, i have to go with that.
definitely the yasuo on your own team. 9 times out of 10, the yasuo would feed
The enemy teams yasuo. Blademaster demon comp is soo op. Wait....
This, that or Jatt other thing?
From a constant 4th place into back to back champion, huh funny what money can do
Jatt come back
Bring Jatt back god pleassdr
My Team's Yasuo is always more dangerous. It's always 4v5 with My Team's Yasuo.
Faker is God
Where's Jatt? 😭
Why does Yasuo support have a 17.6% winrate against Morgana shouldn't it be easy to block the Qs?
Hope this is a joke
5 mins in zoe support, 65% HP Q's to the AD.... seems legit.
Who is this guy on the left? and who picked his outfit?...
I hope Cap stays in this show
TSM Jatt is back baby! o(^-^)7
Bjergson should leave tsm. He owes tsm nothing. I feel bad because he’s my favorite player on my favorite team but I want him to succeed. Him leaving will either finally kill off TSM or somehow bring them back to the top.
'_'
Berj join TSM because he wanted to, he prob stilk feels liek he owes TSM for everything he was goven and prob wont leavr tsm intill he retires
Thing is that there are no other teams where he would have much more sucess than TSM... TL has Jensen, CLG has PoE and C9 has Nisquy. I don't see a world where you break your team synergy to add bjerg who isn't a big enough difference to really make these teams more sucessful. The only team I could see him go to, still have chances of success and be a huge upgrade would be 100T, But all other teams are just not competitive.
Alexandre Sinotte every team in NA and EU besides G2 would take bjergson
@@hydraavux8636 That might be worse than kicking Stephen Curry off the GSWs.
Bjergsen IS TSM, he is THE one and only young superstar kid turned mature leader of TSM. At this point, he'll never mesh with other teams as he loves TSM too much as well. He got lots and lots of emotional investment in and emotional attachment to TSM. I don't like TSM too much, but that guy is their identity. And Bjerg's identity is TSM.
tl;dr
Bjergsen is TSM, TSM is Bjergsen
"We all knew he was coming back when he was bench" Is that a lowkey bm to Keith?
My man LeToucan getting disrespected
I don't think so, I think it was just realism. Everybody knew that Sneaky and Jensen were coming back, and it wasn't because their replacements weren't good, it's just because it was Sneaky and Jensen (We'll ignore Smoothie). Plus, Keith played well during his time in the LCS. I can see why GGS picked him up, especially since FBI doesn't seem to be doing amazing.
Neither because I ban yasuo every game :)