Great vlog, thanks for posting and sharing.I had a 25 horse Chrysler that had to have the points semi cleaned every time I put the boat on the water.I kept a 3/4 inch boxed in wrench on the boat.The fuel vapors would work their way up under the flywheel.I’d take the housing off, take the flywheel off,and pull a very clean piece of cloth thru the points.Reassemble,and fire that baby up and away!!!
Nothing like that is made today. Very nice work. Much respect you are giving to those who made that new. I wonder if this much attention to detail was given to all our tasks the world would reflect it.
WOOOOOOOOOWWWWW SO NICE!! I just bought 2 motors myself a 1954 sea king 3. for $70 and a 1969 merc 40 4hp for $40 and in the process of fixing them up you inspired me!!! I do small engine repair but outboards are a different beast!!!!! so i learned a lot just from watching vids thanks!!!
I have the same motor, that is a future project. It runs great, and have everything to restore it including the decals. Thank you for your tips on the decals, I will try it, as there just a pain, from past motors I have done.... two TD-15's and a TD-20, and a couple of the old green Mercurys.
I'm working on an identical motor right now and came here for a little inspiration, mine's not gonna be even close to as nice looking when I'm done but I'm hoping to make it look pretty sharp
Very pretty OB. Nice job. The details that went awry [little bubbles] are frustrating, to be sure but, those can be avoided next time. Beautiful attention to detail. We had 12 foot Glastron w/ a 10hp Johnson back in 64' that my brother put duel wet expansion-chambers on. Sounded great, ran fantastic. Lake cops towed it away. Meanwhile, the lake is full of big-block boats with the same exhaust systems. Too far ahead of his time I guess. Thanks for the video.
looks good,, I restore motors also,, I use imron on allot of my motors and it works great and holds up nice,, flows out good and has great gloss,, on motors I have to clear over decals I use sickens high solids clear,, its an awesome clear to use,, fast dry time and great flow out,, both paints are expensive but I guess you get what you pay for,, I am looking for an old 15 merc from early 60s to do for a personal motor,, keep up the good work,, we need to save as many of these old motors as we can from the scrap pile,, its part of American history,,
Thanks for the info, hope I'm not buggin too much. The Mod is HD20 (I think it's a 2.5hp), I just checked yesterday. I guy I bought it from was mistaken, and I didn't know what I was buying. I just thought the motor looked cool. I checked for spark, and the lower cylinder didn't have any. The coil connected to the lower cylinder didn't have any resistance readings, but the other one had a ~2.5 kohms (Not sure if units are correct) reading.
Ive got a 70's model evinrude 7.5hp i want restored me and my dad started it together but he isnt able anymore. Wish i could see what you could do with it! i always thought it could be a work of art
I have an old HD25 set aside to restore some day but I think it needs new rings. It runs but gets weak after a couple of minutes, then slows down gradually to a stop. It seems to have very low compression. Not sure if I can find new rings for it!
Thanks for the correction. Another question, what is a good source that can guide me through the trouble shooting of the ignition system? I've been through a couple of older motors, but I'm not sure exactly what to check for.
I have a td 20 where in the hell do I get a coil for it. And what was the colors u used I see ppg products. Going to use water slide decals I found mine someone was tossing it in to the public land fill I saved it stand included but missing the recoil sucks. Ps they look nice grate vedio.
Nice work...I have watched this video a dozen times...looking for any clues I may find. I have a '51 TN-27 that I got with my jon boat. I have gotten it running and installed a new impeller (18-3001) that I modified. She's pumping water but will not stay running long. I have cleaned the carb, but my question is "where did you get your gasket kit, or a total carb kit. I think mine is missing a few parts from previous owners. Also noticed my gas line was not correct and my carb linkage was backwards. I have searched near and far, purchased a part manual, and still no luck. Any advice would be much appreciated. Any magneto parts too! Your the man. Thanks
I have a 1941 Johnson Seahorse ms-15 was my grandfather's. Do you know where I can get materials and information on old outboard motors? I would like to get it running. You do great work as and excellent video's
I need to know. Is there a gasket on the float needle or is the seal metal on metal? I have a 46 TD-20 that hasn't run in over 50 years and I'm having a major float seal problem. I open the fuel petcock and the bowl overflows. I've disassembled the carburetor and cleaned it and reassembled it to how it was.
Maybe you can help me out. I have a Johnson Seahorse HD 25 Serial number 88069 and I am trying to figure out the year. I know HD25's were build between 1946 to 1950 but would like to nail it down...can you help me determine the year?
Did your TH26 have a water pump impeller cooling system? I have a HD20 and I was wanting to replace the impeller, but I don't think it has one to replace.
Not sure what the HD20 has but the TN26 has an impeller inside the lower unit and the direct drive TD20's have a wobbler style water pump located behind the prop.
Did you say in your last post to also replace the water pump or just make sure it works? My gas tank has a few dents in it, would you recommend me to fill the dents in with bondo and paint over?
I have one of these that doesn't run I'm wanting to take it apart I have tank off but can't figure out how to get the rest to come apart I don't want to destroy it do you have a video showing the full dismantling thanks
Vickie Sollars Not really generally l would say just take your time and study it you can figure it out eventually it’s been a while since I’ve taken one apart just start taking screws and bolts out till it comes apart
Enjoyed the video as I have a similar motor I'm rebuilding could you please let me know more about the carburetor ? Where can I find the rebuild kit for the same carburetor you have in the video.
Have three antique Seahorse Motors if anyone is interested, they are still all original. I think there 1925, 1928 and 1940 models. Would love to sell to someone who would appreciate them!!
My dad gave me a 5 hp and a 2.5 hp Johnson’s. I want to restore both. I’m working on the 2.5 cleaning now. Do you know of any good resources for parts?
I just got a Johnson seahorse serial number 478-731 model number ts20 not sure what the year is I believe it's from the 1940s or later this is the silver version which I believe was built in the world war II era but I could be wrong thought that I could get some help from you with knowing what the year is, or I could find a manual, and where am I be able to get replacements parts and I'm also looking for a motor cover for it. Thanks for any help that you can give to help me in my restoration.
Where would you find a float and the leather seals in the primer plunger thing in this day and age? Just picked one up today and it needs those and a few other things.. Thanks, cool video and awesome work.
So i took my 1950 5hp out.... and I had a little gasoline leak. but i hit the carb and i get the flot to moving... this is a new float two... My air screw seams to be cuting off the air after a few minutes, do you have any ideas on that. Gas cap air screw? Also my neutral is not working. Im thinking the cable could be loose. Do you have any suggestions on that as well. I love this motor. I bought the handle you recommended...
I have a 1946-1950 Johnson Seahorse 2.5 hp HD25 that leaks gas from the carb so need a carb kit. Any idea where I can get one? I've checked all my local marinas here in Wisconsin and so far no success.
Hey bigdmc, I watch this channel over and over while Im working on my 51' tn 27, where do you get your piston rings from or what ringsets are you using. And is the tank steel or aluminum I havent stripped my yet, but I plan on opening my tank up and gettin it back straight. Another question that popped into my mind is are the 5.5 and 6 hp pistons from the cd engines the same as the tn pistons or did johnson increase the bore size. I only have one engine and online searches are really providing little info or none on the forums and most parts searches are only going to 55 or 68.
Fishng Trips For Charity I really don’t change the rings on those old Johnson’s they seem to be in good shape if it needs rings then it’s too far gone I don’t rebuild them however I’m sure if you search long enough you could find rings for those as far as the tank is concerned it is aluminum some people have had success filling it with water and freezing it to get the dents out but I chose just to fill it in with body filler as I was afraid I would damage the tank if I tried to freeze water in it
bigdmc1 thanks for the reply im going thru mine now the weather has warmed up i just disassembled the top end i found that the points cam is crack right along the keyway 😣 gonna be fun trying to find that one, carbs gotta be completely done, coils were shot, those i can still get, next im gonna pull my lower unit, thanks for the tip about freezing it i might try that but i may have to cut this one and tig it back together its really rough and gonna need to be massaged, i see its aluminum now. Happy building brother.
I have the exact same motor. Please message me with information as to how I can contact you so we can talk about having you restore mine. What a beautiful job.
I made some. it took a couple of attempts... the trick was using a weak metal... So I broke open a diabetic thing that sticks your finger. Inside of it were two springs. A large and a small. I used the metal out of the large. Now for the bad. It works almost perfectly... But, when ever i run the motor slowly, the fingers are clicking out and making nose. So that is an issue for me...
Your dedication to detail is at par with mine. I believe you are a bit too hard on yourself with the air bubbles in the sag area of the finish. That could be an acceptable factory finish any day of the week. I own two model T's and can tell you up front when something is over restored. Your air bubbles ARE factory and period correct. A faster reducer in your paint or hotter weathershould cure that issue.
Olá.. tenho um motor... Johnson Sea Horse .. tenho interesse de venda, ele está em perfeito estado. Tem como me mandar seu whatsapp pra eu te mandar fotos? Caso interesse....
Great vlog, thanks for posting and sharing.I had a 25 horse Chrysler that had to have the points semi cleaned every time I put the boat on the water.I kept a 3/4 inch boxed in wrench on the boat.The fuel vapors would work their way up under the flywheel.I’d take the housing off, take the flywheel off,and pull a very clean piece of cloth thru the points.Reassemble,and fire that baby up and away!!!
Elevating mechanic work to the level of artist. Amazing! Thank you for sharing your expertise.
The early outboards are a work of art. You do amazing restorations.
Nothing like that is made today. Very nice work. Much respect you are giving to those who made that new. I wonder if this much attention to detail was given to all our tasks the world would reflect it.
WOOOOOOOOOWWWWW SO NICE!! I just bought 2 motors myself a 1954 sea king 3. for $70 and a 1969 merc 40 4hp for $40 and in the process of fixing them up you inspired me!!! I do small engine repair but outboards are a different beast!!!!! so i learned a lot just from watching vids thanks!!!
Absolutely fantastic video! Superb all the way around. Great job. You are a mechanical artist. Thanks.
I have the same motor, that is a future project. It runs great, and have everything to restore it including the decals. Thank you for your tips on the decals, I will try it, as there just a pain, from past motors I have done.... two TD-15's and a TD-20, and a couple of the old green Mercurys.
Your to hard on yourself! Looks absolutely beautiful! Great job.
This is fantastic... I was just complaining that no one fixes anything anymore. Very nice!
that motor is sweet, i'm sure it ran when you sold it.. thanks for sharing
I absolutely love this outboard, it would look awesome in my man cave
nah, this motor is meant to be on the water
I'm working on an identical motor right now and came here for a little inspiration, mine's not gonna be even close to as nice looking when I'm done but I'm hoping to make it look pretty sharp
Very pretty OB. Nice job. The details that went awry [little bubbles] are frustrating, to be sure but, those can be avoided next time. Beautiful attention to detail.
We had 12 foot Glastron w/ a 10hp Johnson back in 64' that my brother put duel wet expansion-chambers on. Sounded great, ran fantastic. Lake cops towed it away. Meanwhile, the lake is full of big-block boats with the same exhaust systems. Too far ahead of his time I guess.
Thanks for the video.
You did an amazing job. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for making this video. I have restored same one myself and your video was very helpful.
You are a craftsman sir.
harbor freight $20.00 spray gun,well worth the coin! I use mine all the while- - - sweeeet,GREETINGS from Tampa Florida
AWEsome video! Great work.
looks good,, I restore motors also,, I use imron on allot of my motors and it works great and holds up nice,, flows out good and has great gloss,, on motors I have to clear over decals I use sickens high solids clear,, its an awesome clear to use,, fast dry time and great flow out,, both paints are expensive but I guess you get what you pay for,,
I am looking for an old 15 merc from early 60s to do for a personal motor,,
keep up the good work,, we need to save as many of these old motors as we can from the scrap pile,, its part of American history,,
Looks like RIck's Restoration- Indiana style. Looks good Mr. Warner
Hello, love your videos....AWESOME WORK!!!!! I would like to know where do you find new water pump parts for these motors ?
excellent job
Thanks for the info, hope I'm not buggin too much. The Mod is HD20 (I think it's a 2.5hp), I just checked yesterday. I guy I bought it from was mistaken, and I didn't know what I was buying. I just thought the motor looked cool. I checked for spark, and the lower cylinder didn't have any. The coil connected to the lower cylinder didn't have any resistance readings, but the other one had a ~2.5 kohms (Not sure if units are correct) reading.
How does the throttle linkage connect? I just picked one up trying to make it run before i spend money to restore
Yes I replaced the water pump and yes you can fill dents with bondo just make sure to take it to bare metal and scuff it up good
Ive got a 70's model evinrude 7.5hp i want restored me and my dad started it together but he isnt able anymore. Wish i could see what you could do with it! i always thought it could be a work of art
I have an old HD25 set aside to restore some day but I think it needs new rings. It runs but gets weak after a couple of minutes, then slows down gradually to a stop. It seems to have very low compression. Not sure if I can find new rings for it!
That is some sweet ass outboard. I also want that bad-girl in my man cave. Hell, I'd put that thing anywhere. Fine job my friend,...very nice!
If were to do that it would be covered in air bubbles, all of your motors look extremely excellent.
Thanks for the correction. Another question, what is a good source that can guide me through the trouble shooting of the ignition system? I've been through a couple of older motors, but I'm not sure exactly what to check for.
Wow! Beautiful!
Do you have any schematic for carburetor and procedure how to fix it?
I have a td 20 where in the hell do I get a coil for it. And what was the colors u used I see ppg products. Going to use water slide decals I found mine someone was tossing it in to the public land fill I saved it stand included but missing the recoil sucks. Ps they look nice grate vedio.
Nice work...I have watched this video a dozen times...looking for any clues I may find. I have a '51 TN-27 that I got with my jon boat. I have gotten it running and installed a new impeller (18-3001) that I modified. She's pumping water but will not stay running long. I have cleaned the carb, but my question is "where did you get your gasket kit, or a total carb kit. I think mine is missing a few parts from previous owners. Also noticed my gas line was not correct and my carb linkage was backwards. I have searched near and far, purchased a part manual, and still no luck. Any advice would be much appreciated. Any magneto parts too! Your the man. Thanks
Where did you get that cork float I’m sure I’m gonna need one just like it
I think I made it from a hardware store Cork
Where did you get your carb kit ?
I have a 1941 Johnson Seahorse ms-15 was my grandfather's. Do you know where I can get materials and information on old outboard motors? I would like to get it running. You do great work as and excellent video's
Check out the antique outboard motor club. They are on facebook too. Helped when i did my 39 champion
Would anyone be able to help me find the brand new condensers he used?
What's the big old machine at time 6:08 with the big belt and pulley for and it's name?
That is an antique drill press with an electric motor added to it. It is nicked named "the Widow maker"
Do you have a good market for those TN’s and TD’s ? We can’t hardly give them away up here in Minnesota !
Wher did you get your ignition components, impeller and gear case seal kit?
+rc pilot You cand find most of the parts at www.vintageoutboard.com/
This guy is awesome!
You're my hero! Looks great!
I need to know. Is there a gasket on the float needle or is the seal metal on metal?
I have a 46 TD-20 that hasn't run in over 50 years and I'm having a major float seal problem. I open the fuel petcock and the bowl overflows. I've disassembled the carburetor and cleaned it and reassembled it to how it was.
Maybe you can help me out. I have a Johnson Seahorse HD 25 Serial number 88069 and I am trying to figure out the year. I know HD25's were build between 1946 to 1950 but would like to nail it down...can you help me determine the year?
Did your TH26 have a water pump impeller cooling system? I have a HD20 and I was wanting to replace the impeller, but I don't think it has one to replace.
Not sure what the HD20 has but the TN26 has an impeller inside the lower unit and the direct drive TD20's have a wobbler style water pump located behind the prop.
bigdmc1 P.m.
Did you say in your last post to also replace the water pump or just make sure it works? My gas tank has a few dents in it, would you recommend me to fill the dents in with bondo and paint over?
great quality. Where do you order vintage parts for a seahorse? Im looking at buying an older small outboard as a project.
Where do you get your parts? My boys inherited a similar model and we are looking to restore it
I use to get them from various places like American outboard and eBay but haven’t been able to find stuff recently
What oil would I use in the gear case?
where can i get the springs for the flywheel, the springs that make the dowhoppies connect to the pull cord...
Where do you get engine rebuild kits? Great job btw
Where do you get missing bolts and screws?
I have one of these that doesn't run I'm wanting to take it apart I have tank off but can't figure out how to get the rest to come apart I don't want to destroy it do you have a video showing the full dismantling thanks
Vickie Sollars Not really generally l would say just take your time and study it you can figure it out eventually it’s been a while since I’ve taken one apart just start taking screws and bolts out till it comes apart
Enjoyed the video as I have a similar motor I'm rebuilding could you please let me know more about the carburetor ? Where can I find the rebuild kit for the same carburetor you have in the video.
what type of paint and primer did you use?
Where do you get your carb kits and condensers? I am restoring an hd-20 and am struggling to find parts.
James
James Keller There are several places one is www.laingsoutboards.com/index.html but I think I got my parts from www.vintageoutboard.com/
Hi there, are you using the NY Marine Alkyd Enamel paint? Did you paint everything in one day or let it dry between coats?
Have three antique Seahorse Motors if anyone is interested, they are still all original. I think there 1925, 1928 and 1940 models. Would love to sell to someone who would appreciate them!!
My dad gave me a 5 hp and a 2.5 hp Johnson’s. I want to restore both. I’m working on the 2.5 cleaning now. Do you know of any good resources for parts?
American outboard for decals and rubber grips and reprotint for paint
I just got a Johnson seahorse serial number 478-731 model number ts20 not sure what the year is I believe it's from the 1940s or later this is the silver version which I believe was built in the world war II era but I could be wrong thought that I could get some help from you with knowing what the year is, or I could find a manual, and where am I be able to get replacements parts and I'm also looking for a motor cover for it. Thanks for any help that you can give to help me in my restoration.
What clear do you use?
Where do you order parts for these old outboards? I just purchased a 1947 johnson 3.5hp and may need some parts... Thanks
Where would you find a float and the leather seals in the primer plunger thing in this day and age? Just picked one up today and it needs those and a few other things.. Thanks, cool video and awesome work.
That was fun, thanks.
So i took my 1950 5hp out.... and I had a little gasoline leak. but i hit the carb and i get the flot to moving... this is a new float two... My air screw seams to be cuting off the air after a few minutes, do you have any ideas on that. Gas cap air screw? Also my neutral is not working. Im thinking the cable could be loose. Do you have any suggestions on that as well. I love this motor. I bought the handle you recommended...
where can you get the decals
I have a 1950 tn26 Johnson Seahorse, could you please tell me wait the GAS to OIL RATIO IS.
How would I buy one of these and do you have a website.
I do not have any restored at this time my web site is www.bigdmc.com
How much do you sell your old outboard motors for I wood like to have one
It all depends on what model it is the only thing I have ready to sell right now is a Mercury Mark 28 which is a 23hp for 2500
did you use epoxy primer? anything special???
I have a 1946-1950 Johnson Seahorse 2.5 hp HD25 that leaks gas from the carb so need a carb kit. Any idea where I can get one? I've checked all my local marinas here in Wisconsin and so far no success.
Hey bigdmc,
I watch this channel over and over while Im working on my 51' tn 27, where do you get your piston rings from or what ringsets are you using. And is the tank steel or aluminum I havent stripped my yet, but I plan on opening my tank up and gettin it back straight. Another question that popped into my mind is are the 5.5 and 6 hp pistons from the cd engines the same as the tn pistons or did johnson increase the bore size. I only have one engine and online searches are really providing little info or none on the forums and most parts searches are only going to 55 or 68.
Fishng Trips For Charity I really don’t change the rings on those old Johnson’s they seem to be in good shape if it needs rings then it’s too far gone I don’t rebuild them however I’m sure if you search long enough you could find rings for those as far as the tank is concerned it is aluminum some people have had success filling it with water and freezing it to get the dents out but I chose just to fill it in with body filler as I was afraid I would damage the tank if I tried to freeze water in it
bigdmc1 thanks for the reply im going thru mine now the weather has warmed up i just disassembled the top end i found that the points cam is crack right along the keyway 😣 gonna be fun trying to find that one, carbs gotta be completely done, coils were shot, those i can still get, next im gonna pull my lower unit, thanks for the tip about freezing it i might try that but i may have to cut this one and tig it back together its really rough and gonna need to be massaged, i see its aluminum now. Happy building brother.
Awesome job! I need condensers, impeller, bottom seal, carb kit..Can anyone help. Johnson Skeehorse TN 26. Thank you.
I have the exact same motor. Please message me with information as to how I can contact you so we can talk about having you restore mine. What a beautiful job.
Hi @bigdmc1 i have the 1952 johnson seahorse tn-28 5hp can you help i have some questions to ask
Amazing Do you do restorations for others. How do I contact you.
Hi, I am trying to find out what the color name is for this 1950 TN26 Johnson Sea Horse. If anyone has the name, could you please share? :) Thanks!
And there's that box again, at 9:20 in this video...lol
I wish I knew as I had to make them and it is not easy.
Wow!!!
I fucken wish I could do this
I made some. it took a couple of attempts... the trick was using a weak metal... So I broke open a diabetic thing that sticks your finger. Inside of it were two springs. A large and a small. I used the metal out of the large. Now for the bad. It works almost perfectly... But, when ever i run the motor slowly, the fingers are clicking out and making nose. So that is an issue for me...
20 to 1 with today's oil... no problem
28 dollars far a condenser? my God! How times change
beautiful engine by the way!
Your dedication to detail is at par with mine. I believe you are a bit too hard on yourself with the air bubbles in the sag area of the finish. That could be an acceptable factory finish any day of the week. I own two model T's and can tell you up front when something is over restored. Your air bubbles ARE factory and period correct. A faster reducer in your paint or hotter weathershould cure that issue.
I just seen a motor just like this or maybe this one on Craigslist for $350
you blew right by the only thing i wanted to see,the carb
i just got a johnson seahorse 1964 that im rebuilding
Not much. sadly. No young people are interested in old motors, and the old men that were interested in them are dying off....
I'm 17 and just got a TN 28 seahorse 5hp. I wanna buy a few more old motors and fix them ! I have found out I love fixing motors and boats too !
Amazing job. Check out my vid of me restoring a 1966 Johnson 3hp... Not nearly as thorough a job as yours though!
candy
AOMCI!
Olá.. tenho um motor... Johnson Sea Horse .. tenho interesse de venda, ele está em perfeito estado. Tem como me mandar seu whatsapp pra eu te mandar fotos?
Caso interesse....