Fake Elector Struggles To Explain Role In Scheme To Submit False Election Papers

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2022
  • Rachel Maddow shares video shot by a KPNX photojournalist of Arizona Republic reporter Richard Ruelas asking Arizona State Representative Jake Hoffman how he came to represent himself as an elector on paperwork that falsely claimed Donald Trump had won Arizona in 2020.
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Комментарии • 7 тыс.

  • @saraxdouglas8577
    @saraxdouglas8577 2 года назад +51

    PROSECUTE THESE TRAITORS !!!!

  • @Groffili
    @Groffili 2 года назад +4175

    That these people are still free is a bad sign for justfice in the USA. That these people are still in office is a bad sign for democracy in the USA.

    • @robertb.australia.8801
      @robertb.australia.8801 2 года назад +187

      JAIL----- JAIL----- JAIL---- Lock them up .

    • @alanmacification
      @alanmacification 2 года назад +157

      The coup was run and still is being run at the highest corporate levels. These people are being assured absolutely that they will be pardoned if convicted or the cases will be stopped once the Republicans take over. Hoffman thinks he is immune.

    • @SeanHenrichs
      @SeanHenrichs 2 года назад +107

      These people still breathing proves there is no justice

    • @truelove-wx4bw
      @truelove-wx4bw 2 года назад +85

      JUSTICE IN AMERIKKKA??????????🤯🤯🤪🤪👺🇺🇸🤢🤮🤮

    • @pdaniaful
      @pdaniaful 2 года назад +115

      White privilege

  • @stephenwilliams203
    @stephenwilliams203 2 года назад +240

    All this blatant disregard for the law leads me to believe that they had 100% confidence they were going to succeed.

    • @TheMaryam1891
      @TheMaryam1891 Год назад +10

      In MI they tried to spend the night yet still wound up getting there after the original electors.

    • @luke_skywanker7643
      @luke_skywanker7643 10 месяцев назад

      Yep. They ALL thought they were going to get away with it -- even the Jan. 6 Terrorists and the Republican Congresspeople who helped them.

    • @mikecobalt7005
      @mikecobalt7005 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly, they didn't try to hide anything, same as trumps personal crimes, nothing was hidden.

    • @Rhaspun
      @Rhaspun 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheMaryam1891 I believe they didn't do because some of those electors thought it was illegal.

    • @sunnyramsey2753
      @sunnyramsey2753 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@RhaspunEvery one of them in all of those States knew what they were doing! This was set up long before as a just in case. All should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

  • @mackydog99
    @mackydog99 10 месяцев назад +129

    Being from AZ, and currently residing in AZ,..........this is embarrassing to say the least. This is just the tip of the iceberg as to what the republican party has become.

    • @marciafierro4931
      @marciafierro4931 9 месяцев назад

      EXACTLY 💯% the ONLY good Republican is a VOTED OUT 🗳Republican, PERIOD!!

    • @johndeach4573
      @johndeach4573 9 месяцев назад +1

      It is the republicon way .

    • @stifflerantique9005l
      @stifflerantique9005l 8 месяцев назад +1

      Arizona, stand strong with justice-democracy. United, we stand.

    • @conniedziepak6760
      @conniedziepak6760 8 месяцев назад

      I'm a Michigander and it happened here, too. However, I am proud to say that our MI A.G. Dana Nessel has indicted those fake electors. Let them explain their actions in a court of law. Somehow, I doubt that "desperate times call for desperate measures" explanation is gonna'fly in court.😂

  • @chi-townvirgolife9269
    @chi-townvirgolife9269 2 года назад +145

    He signed an “Official”document, now he has selective amnesia.

    • @corpsmanup5498
      @corpsmanup5498 2 года назад +4

      It is a mental illness clearly outlined in the DSM.

    • @pasttensehouseofmouse5194
      @pasttensehouseofmouse5194 2 года назад +4

      @@corpsmanup5498 Remember djt's first attorney general at the investigation i.e.- "I don't recall" LOL

    • @anitabruton1687
      @anitabruton1687 2 года назад +7

      Well his answer was "We didn't see a specific law that says we couldn't do it". Yeah, that one will surely hold up in court......NOT!!!!!

    • @chi-townvirgolife9269
      @chi-townvirgolife9269 2 года назад +3

      @@anitabruton1687 And that’s so crazy because isn’t it a crime to falsified official documents? It’s like a disclosure at the end of all paperwork!

  • @TheTmat007
    @TheTmat007 2 года назад +88

    Lock the traitors up already!

  • @georgesnyder3273
    @georgesnyder3273 2 года назад +67

    Shouldn't these criminals that forged these documents be sitting in jail waiting for his Federal criminal case. These POS are traitors to our country and need to be serving life when convicted.

  • @smmta1817
    @smmta1817 10 месяцев назад +6

    Did he forget he was originally walking off in the opposite direction before being expertly questioned? That just goes to show, they aren’t busy doing anything and they really aren’t ever going anywhere real. Just aimlessly walking off away from anyone with a logical mind questioning them

    • @franchiseowner1668
      @franchiseowner1668 9 месяцев назад

      They walk around looking for reporters and cameras so they can be on TV. Politicians these days want to be famous celebrities.

  • @MrKasa1989
    @MrKasa1989 2 года назад +272

    They are cowards, they won't come forward until they are exposed.

    • @abbersj2935
      @abbersj2935 2 года назад +16

      Traitors all.

    • @overthis
      @overthis 2 года назад +2

      Until pelosi stops hiding all of the evidence you can't have an honest opinion on this.
      Huge cover up, like 9/11 big.
      PS I'm very open to some people being found guilty but many were tricked, body cam videos will show officers waving people into the building

    • @mikejones8866
      @mikejones8866 2 года назад +15

      @@overthis
      So, Democrat Peolosi is hiding evidence of Democrat protesters storming the Capitol to stop a Democratic President's election from being certified?
      Geez, that makes so much sense. /s Good grief.

    • @JONeal826
      @JONeal826 2 года назад +4

      @@overthis your not supposed to like your own post

    • @shari9721
      @shari9721 2 года назад +2

      @@overthis The officers were completely outnumbered , they had no choice , it was either pull out their guns and start shooting them until they run out of bullets and then get attacked by the angry violent mob or step aside and wait for backup then control and direct the mob back out.

  • @Kiki-en9vm
    @Kiki-en9vm 2 года назад +2483

    Please prosecute them all ,they are squeezing this nation to death.

    • @pam9470
      @pam9470 2 года назад +29

      and the truth too!

    • @mossydog6968
      @mossydog6968 2 года назад +31

      And milking it's citizens dry.

    • @queensamara5898
      @queensamara5898 2 года назад +33

      Make an example out of the big fish & the small fish. If found guilty give the a decade for breaking so many federal laws.

    • @MrBreeze66
      @MrBreeze66 2 года назад +4

      This is standard, you can find dem electors submitted their paperwork in Florida. Once again liberals love to believe their lies, and comp,sin about conspiracy theories while engaging in conspiracy theories all over the place.

    • @jesuscichlidtank
      @jesuscichlidtank 2 года назад +73

      @@MrBreeze66 lie deflect repeat.

  • @bfdzvalable
    @bfdzvalable 2 года назад +38

    The arrogance and shamelessness this dude exhibits is truly astounding. I'm not surprised these people would have the gall to try and get away with something like this. After all, their fearless leader has been practicing this way of life since his daddy taught him how to do it. All of them need to be lined up in front of a firing squad for treason.

    • @bonniehall578
      @bonniehall578 10 месяцев назад +2

      He knows he is in trouble. He should have said "no comment".

    • @annakingry9157
      @annakingry9157 9 месяцев назад +2

      "The Chairman made me do it."

  • @dreamcatcher5502
    @dreamcatcher5502 2 года назад +42

    His answer described the attempt of a COUP !! Thanks for incriminating yourself !! 👏

  • @billbrown5196
    @billbrown5196 2 года назад +16

    Why arent these people in jail?

  • @robertjohnson3555
    @robertjohnson3555 9 месяцев назад +3

    He's acting guilty.. They think they are above the law.

  • @jamesfogerty2493
    @jamesfogerty2493 10 месяцев назад +7

    This investigation could lead to Virginia Thomas becoming criminally indicted, prosecuted, and convicted. She could possibly be sentenced to serve time in prison. She might become tempted to agree to a plea deal and talk about the corruption within The Supreme Court Of The United States Of America. Republican Members of both houses of Congress should start to worry as well.

  • @crookeddonald4761
    @crookeddonald4761 2 года назад +396

    And these are the people that have the nerve to shout "STOP THE STEAL!" God help us.

    • @ExcretumTaurum
      @ExcretumTaurum 2 года назад +32

      Straight out of the Drumpf playbook - accuse everyone else of doing what you’re doing.

    • @crookeddonald4761
      @crookeddonald4761 2 года назад +21

      @@ExcretumTaurum 100% !!! Trump and the GOP do it on EVERYTHING. They're the kings of projection.

    • @weeverob
      @weeverob 2 года назад +15

      Trumpism = projection, projection, projection

    • @anthonydurante1149
      @anthonydurante1149 2 года назад +28

      "COUNT THE VOTES" when Trump was winning.
      "STOP THE STEAL" when Biden was winning.
      Need I say more?

    • @paulm4457
      @paulm4457 2 года назад +10

      If you had video of them conspiring secretly of what they did they would say it was antifa blackflag operation or maybe rogue f.b.i operation.They are brainwashed and willing to let democracy die to appease trump.

  • @kaneo6162
    @kaneo6162 2 года назад +847

    AT least give them the same time as the Mistaken voter black lady who voted in Texas. She got 5 years.

    • @mrsdraper171
      @mrsdraper171 2 года назад +160

      That lady did not deserve any time. This man deserves no less than 20 years.

    • @willybones3890
      @willybones3890 2 года назад +129

      She was railroaded. That needs to be rectified.

    • @lis819
      @lis819 2 года назад +94

      Can Biden pardon her?

    • @elizabethdelacerda2087
      @elizabethdelacerda2087 2 года назад +56

      @@lis819 good question!🤔

    • @jorgecarrejo7562
      @jorgecarrejo7562 2 года назад +67

      @@lis819 someone needs to ask President Biden that question..

  • @buckeyechuck4064
    @buckeyechuck4064 10 месяцев назад +3

    How are these people gullible enough to be talked into breaking the law for a man who cares nothing about them.

  • @josephvandevander6848
    @josephvandevander6848 2 года назад +11

    These ppl need to go to PRISON!! What happens if you forge any official document?? What happens when you get caught impersonating a cop?? GOOD GOD!! 🙄🤬🤦‍♂️

  • @RightANDTruong
    @RightANDTruong 2 года назад +22

    Please somebody please explain to me why this man is not actively being arrested right now?!

    • @bshaw1004
      @bshaw1004 2 года назад +2

      Right..

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 2 года назад

      Arizona Attorney General is t(R)umpian of course.

  • @Steve.Dennis
    @Steve.Dennis 2 года назад +549

    Everyone part of that illegal, fraudulent coup needs to be charged and dorms fine in prison.

    • @johngodley256
      @johngodley256 2 года назад +16

      Where is Garland, what is he doing about the matter? The GOP are acting worse than any
      party in a 3rd world country.

    • @l.m.6090
      @l.m.6090 2 года назад +11

      Yes, didn't these criminals commit a felony? Of course they did.

    • @gener.1253
      @gener.1253 2 года назад +9

      We need to re-populate Guantanamo with these traitors!

    • @MyHandelsMessiah
      @MyHandelsMessiah 2 года назад +1

      These people are _TRAITORS_ and need to be *EXECUTED FOR TREASON*
      It’s that simple.

    • @cyninbend
      @cyninbend 2 года назад

      @@MyHandelsMessiah Watch Legal Eagle's post about treason--he researched it. This is not what the Constitution defined as treason--they were stuck on foreign countries getting US citizens to help them during war. We have forgery and election fraud laws for this and need new laws on trying to overturn elections and lying about candidates.

  • @kb-xp1zu
    @kb-xp1zu Месяц назад +2

    Thanks you, Rachel Maddow! You were on to something 2 years ago: Indictments aplenty. Respect for you team!

  • @littlebean1556
    @littlebean1556 10 месяцев назад +17

    Omg we got a really good admission that can stand in court- he called what they did as “dueling opinions” and the election wasn’t litigated at the time he did it because the winner hadn’t been declared yet at the time. ALSO he just gave us the Republican chair 🎉🎉🎉 good job everyone involved in the investigation! This is how good ol fashion journalism works

    • @karinaz8756
      @karinaz8756 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly. It blows my mind that he REALLY believed they could get away with this. Did they think everyone in DC was going to say HURR DURR well ok - four more years I guess. Dueling opinions? The 64 court cases they lost made it pretty clear to the rest of America. He didn’t want to admit on camera that they quietly met in basements and clandestine locations under the cover of darkness. The fake electors in Michigan are facing charges. It should be copied to. EVERYONE that participated in this FRAUD.

    • @annakingry9157
      @annakingry9157 9 месяцев назад

      Now the good ol fashioned law needs to work.

  • @rogerbarnes9641
    @rogerbarnes9641 9 месяцев назад +3

    Why aren't these people in jail already ?

  • @sandarahcatmom9897
    @sandarahcatmom9897 2 года назад +866

    He struggled not to explain himself and his role in trying to defraud the government.

    • @leahketay
      @leahketay 2 года назад +47

      Yes, I noticed him squirming too all while trying to maintain a false bravado. Body language belies the fraudsters yes?

    • @skux0146
      @skux0146 2 года назад +35

      Get them individually and they will flip quickly. Once the first domino bricks fall, the whole scheme will collapse

    • @janicehotchkiss3786
      @janicehotchkiss3786 2 года назад +29

      Handcuffs may be in order...
      Ask the "party chair" why *I* signed a forged document.
      "Unprecedented times" caused me to support the "Big Lie". 🗽
      Green Bay Coup Failed 🇺🇸

    • @watchinit6530
      @watchinit6530 2 года назад +27

      @@leahketay , You're correct. He was cornered, and struggling to find answers that would not convict him of anything right there on the spot. But, I would wager that he's sweating right now, and wondering what's starting to simmer behind the scene.

    • @alanhart2745
      @alanhart2745 2 года назад +20

      Its gonna come to a head and these slim balls are gonna CRY !!! VOTE BLUE AND RUN THESE CLOWNS OUT OF TOWN. !!!

  • @twill9278
    @twill9278 2 года назад +158

    These people need to do SERIOUS jail time

    • @sgrimm7346
      @sgrimm7346 2 года назад

      That's the problem, there is probably no specific law against what he did. Read my comments above....several others have stated the same thing...even this 'elector' was saying there is no precedent set for what he and others did, no case law. It's very unfortunate, but these people will take advantage of every scenario in which to cheat.

  • @williamgraham5630
    @williamgraham5630 2 года назад +3

    This is dangerous and frightening. How is it that these people have not been arrested and prosecuted? What exactly is Garland doing at the DOJ?

  • @Sparrowdean
    @Sparrowdean 9 месяцев назад +2

    How can a State Representative not understand that forging a document is a crime? What is wrong with these people?

  • @rizzb4011
    @rizzb4011 2 года назад +22

    Prosecute every last one of those criminals. Minimum 20 years, federal prison.

    • @fredylucas2484
      @fredylucas2484 2 года назад +1

      20 months in Colombian jails will be enough

    • @unknownsample4801
      @unknownsample4801 2 года назад

      I mean that is election fraud

    • @martianunlimited
      @martianunlimited 2 года назад +3

      Traditionally treason is punished by hanging, drawing and quartering. Why spend tax payer's money keeping them alive

    • @satanicmicrochipv5656
      @satanicmicrochipv5656 2 года назад

      @@martianunlimited
      Unfortunately, the charge of treason is only applicable during an active, formal declaration of war.
      While their actions and intentions were certainly treasonous, they are considered as sedition and/or insurrection by law.
      Since Guantanamo is empty and being kept around for a rainy day as our premier place of forgetting, it's the perfect location for domestic terrorists and enemies of the Constitution.
      I would be more satisfied knowing that ol' Methaleptic Mussolini and his conspiratorial accomplices spent the rest of their lives in solitary confinement.
      That would be a punishment worse than death for the attention seeking narcissist.

  • @villehytonen7279
    @villehytonen7279 2 года назад +338

    Is there really no law to hold them accountable? Lock them up!

    • @LS-bb9qh
      @LS-bb9qh 2 года назад +22

      Yeah, forging government docs is not illegal? I call Bs.

    • @lorraine5558
      @lorraine5558 2 года назад +34

      In Arizona, any violation notarizing a forged document is typically a Class 4 felony punishable with a prison sentence of almost four years.

    • @marcwheeler4406
      @marcwheeler4406 2 года назад +12

      @@lorraine5558 I think that should be about right as a ex female convict was sent back to jail cause she was told by her election board she could vote legally...

    • @happyhermit4800
      @happyhermit4800 2 года назад +6

      yeah, there ARE ways to hold them accountable...permanently

    • @DanTheMailman330
      @DanTheMailman330 2 года назад +7

      Forge a check for 50 bucks and they'll try to give you jail time...

  • @cindygiardina3523
    @cindygiardina3523 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sickening!!! Thank you for reporting this ridiculousness

  • @user-lo1qt2ev5c
    @user-lo1qt2ev5c 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is treason

  • @diannelake969
    @diannelake969 2 года назад +85

    Guilty as sin. You can tell by his anger and comment about Schumer.

    • @Godwinpounds4333
      @Godwinpounds4333 2 года назад

      Hello Dianne, how are you doing?

    • @caroledmonds4070
      @caroledmonds4070 2 года назад

      Dianne Lake, when in doubt,"it's time for the GQP to play "whatabout". They are angry because they have nothing. "If I don't win, the election was rigged"---Donald Trump,2016.

    • @diannelake969
      @diannelake969 2 года назад

      @@caroledmonds4070 YEP.

  • @willybones3890
    @willybones3890 2 года назад +32

    Charge them with fraud.

  • @davidjkramer1
    @davidjkramer1 10 месяцев назад +10

    I hope that all the fake electors get jail time and have to pay fines!

    • @stevemoyer2273
      @stevemoyer2273 10 месяцев назад +2

      And be removed from and prevented from holding public office.

  • @theobvious5221
    @theobvious5221 2 года назад +2

    I absolutely love Rachel Maddow's tenacity. I wish she would run for Congress.

  • @karldammann
    @karldammann 2 года назад +346

    "Yes, I sent forged documents to the government, is there something wrong with that?"

    • @Franco1395
      @Franco1395 2 года назад +61

      It’s funny. He pretty much said that and his reasoning was that it hadn’t been done before therefore is legal.

    • @carlie22168
      @carlie22168 2 года назад +25

      Yes, there is something wrong with that! He and the fake electors should be expelled! Never allowed to run for office of any kind!

    • @gperson1967
      @gperson1967 2 года назад +11

      @@carlie22168 : They should be in prison or at least thoroughly publicly shamed and made example of. But people have such little faith in democracy now, in the face of decades of neglect, that any attempt to bolster it by tearing down people who offend its values will likely not accomplish much.
      We just need money.

    • @rwksasc
      @rwksasc 2 года назад +2

      No nothing wrong. Because this is America..

    • @qwadratix
      @qwadratix 2 года назад +14

      I guess he wants someone to point to the specific precedent in case law where it forbids forging the Arizona electoral return. Similarly, I guess there's no law that specifically forbids defecating on the carpet in the Capitol.

  • @lazarfranco6029
    @lazarfranco6029 2 года назад +11

    Is there a jail for traitors like this one? JAIL!

  • @elsierodgers4874
    @elsierodgers4874 10 месяцев назад +2

    So glad they are not going to get away with that crime. People ages 55 to 82 jeopardizing their freedom for a crooked clown.

  • @thomashyatt7031
    @thomashyatt7031 10 месяцев назад +5

    I grew up in a town with public fire alarms. Hanging out one day Frank approached me asking me to pull a fire alarm so he could engage in some petty theft. I declined. I was around 12 at the time. This was a conspiracy to commit a crime and I knew it. I'm sorry but I can not believe for a moment these people don't have a sense of right and wrong.

    • @franchiseowner1668
      @franchiseowner1668 9 месяцев назад

      You're forgetting that even though you were 12 you still had a good heart and probably are inherently good. But Trump and his loyal clan of political hooligans are PURE EVIL. They are a sugar coated evil that goes to church and prays and pretends to be a good God fearing person but the reality is they are anything but that. The Bible says Satan will come back like Jesus. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Trump and his gang are all pure evil and its not that they don't know the difference between right and wrong , they just don't care

  • @williamzame3708
    @williamzame3708 2 года назад +2230

    Submitting forged documents in an official proceeding is almost surely a felony. These people should be prosecuted.

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday 2 года назад +1325

    Needs to be in jail. Genuinely
    How these people are waking around freely is amazing to me.

    • @justsayn5255
      @justsayn5255 2 года назад +30

      If you want to be part of the solution, contact your state attorney general's office, repeatedly, and ask some friends to do the same, repeatedly. If that doesn't work, vote them out. 🖖

    • @rayhall5280
      @rayhall5280 2 года назад +44

      If you or I forged any kind of document that was supposed to be an "official document" then transmitted it across state lines we would be in jail! The way this guy smugly laughs this off is mind boggling.

    • @roberttaylor9563
      @roberttaylor9563 2 года назад +5

      You're a fake baby no need to conseal it,
      Know how i know, cause i can feel it.
      You're a fake baby, no rhyme or reason
      Cause in your mind, it's the lying season
      Whenever we hear about you,
      We find out something new
      But one thing is all so true
      You're a fake!!

    • @wvin1450
      @wvin1450 2 года назад +27

      If I signed my name on a bad check they would catch it and have me in jail. How can this guy forge a document and tamper with our election record system? He was basically trying to put a "gotcha" document in to magically be found as evidence for "fraud" later.

    • @Annie-zd6rn
      @Annie-zd6rn 2 года назад +26

      Look at their skin color that explains it all. Let it had been ALL Black Democrats behind this huge crime trying to overturn an election for Obama.

  • @TheKingdallaz
    @TheKingdallaz 2 года назад +2

    WHEN WILL THESE PEOPLE BE LOCKED UP AND FIRED FROM THEIR JOBS

  • @gusjackson3658
    @gusjackson3658 10 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing that these fools signed assuming no consequences for committing public fraud.

  • @macywacy7384
    @macywacy7384 2 года назад +308

    Great work from the reporter!

    • @maxmorehouse4190
      @maxmorehouse4190 2 года назад +10

      Right!? Finally, a reporter who asks relevant questions!

    • @dannysantos1266
      @dannysantos1266 2 года назад +2

      Richard Ruelas. He’s an excellent journalist. “Do you NOT know how you arrived at a place?”

  • @pbeezum
    @pbeezum 2 года назад +112

    He is as guilty as a smell, his whole demeanour told us all we need to know about him.

    • @bethparker1500
      @bethparker1500 2 года назад +1

      I think he acted rather proud, no case law, so anyone can be an elector?
      If they can get everybody through the IRS, we should all vote the same way

    • @tonyblair8797
      @tonyblair8797 2 года назад

      There's always a first case and he would nicely fit the case as a defendant.

  • @timisaac8121
    @timisaac8121 10 месяцев назад +3

    WOW!!! Why Rachel rocks!! Thank you for giving so much credit to the reporter and camera man on the scene. "We are going to get to the bottom of this"- one year later this plays like yesterday! Thanks again!!

  • @eugenerhee9297
    @eugenerhee9297 9 месяцев назад +1

    Richard Ruelas of the Arizona Republic: Polite, to the point, good follow up questions, didn’t let him off with weak answers. Well done!

  • @thejosephchrist
    @thejosephchrist 2 года назад +726

    See that little head twitch he did when asked if they had any direction? Thats called a tell. He knows exactly who was coordinating it.

    • @mossydog6968
      @mossydog6968 2 года назад +60

      "The end justifies the means"
      I always knew Republicans secretly has a soft spot for Stalin.

    • @leahketay
      @leahketay 2 года назад +30

      Good observation!

    • @spacecowboy7591
      @spacecowboy7591 2 года назад +44

      we all know who he is working for the same goon that sicked the maga inbreeders on the capitol ol trumpy pee tapes lol

    • @suehowie152
      @suehowie152 2 года назад +29

      He shut up real quick..Coward..

    • @CheersNE
      @CheersNE 2 года назад +15

      @@mossydog6968 Funny, I accidentally read that as Satan instead of Stalin, potato, potato!

  • @GarrettCharnin
    @GarrettCharnin 2 года назад +125

    I truly hope these "electors" are being prosecuted...

  • @bzert281
    @bzert281 2 года назад +18

    Just so I'm clear, when Hoffman said what he said about "there's no case law" regarding that matter... it IS a law on the books, prohibiting this type of action, but I'm guessing that nobody had yet been charged with filing a false raft of electors in a Presidential campaign, because nobody had dared to do it, right?
    So, this is grounds for a criminal case, if the grand jury indicts.

  • @rickeydonald4756
    @rickeydonald4756 2 года назад +1

    You could get more punishment for a fake driver’s license than you would for forging a federal document. That makes legal sense!

  • @kevinnsevinn799
    @kevinnsevinn799 2 года назад +20

    Good for that reporter to directly ask & ask & ask

  • @Franco1395
    @Franco1395 2 года назад +1177

    Hound them all! Ask these “electors” the same question every day.

    • @danielminutilli5372
      @danielminutilli5372 2 года назад +36

      It's all starting to unravel.

    • @zenmode6144
      @zenmode6144 2 года назад +27

      They have to pay for the lies they built.

    • @peggystoutemorin4529
      @peggystoutemorin4529 2 года назад +25

      @Rick Threat The only threat you are is to your common sense, if you have any. You behave like a three year old .

    • @connieb4372
      @connieb4372 2 года назад +29

      @Rick Threat and YOU are one of them.. you just can't make up the level of idiocy that his cult members exude. I feel sorry for them.. they obviously can't think on their own and have to be told how to feel by their "dear leader".. they hang on his every word like he's some God, or like he's going to throw money at them (which is hilarious because he doesn't even pay his bills, if he can get someone else to pay them for him) and, if truth be known, he would just as soon spit on them as to look at them (that is AFTER he's emptied their wallets).. you have to wonder how they can accept the fact that after 5 years, he's still fighting to keep THEM from seeing his tax returns.. all the way to the supreme court because that's the way "innocent" people behave.. right? And we are the foolish ones?

    • @stevecopper1667
      @stevecopper1667 2 года назад +9

      He didn't answer he said the party chair told him to go do it there's no point in asking this man anymore questions he's just a muppet
      They need to go find the rich people that donated to his campaign and ask them they're the ones that actually have the answer

  • @steveborn5986
    @steveborn5986 9 месяцев назад +2

    They know exactly what they attempted. Justice!

  • @peterprentice9179
    @peterprentice9179 10 месяцев назад +4

    treasonous snakes . . . lock them up for life

  • @chicagoboy1106
    @chicagoboy1106 2 года назад +111

    *There goes another "I plead the fifth!" sort of guy! Pay Attention America!*

    • @ramonascottkemp2279
      @ramonascottkemp2279 2 года назад

      They have the right to remain silent but (un) fortunately he's already opened his mouth just enough 😉

  • @icin4d
    @icin4d 2 года назад +1201

    There was no real "litigation in the courts." They took it to the courts and nothing stood up as being factual for fraud. But this sure looks like a slam dunk for fraud.

    • @rjlchristie
      @rjlchristie 2 года назад +67

      and 1:57 "...so, in unprecedented times... blah blah blah"
      Someone tell Bozo that that bs won't fly. In case he had never noticed it was a straight forward loss at the ballot box - and amazingly that's happened before .

    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 2 года назад +45

      in many cases Rudy stopped just short of being sworn in. He just wanted to make it LOOK like there was fraud so the justice department could take over, but he wasn't so far gone he'd commit purgery. I think Trump WANTED him to, but he knew better. And now Rudy's still gonna lose his liscence to practice law. LOL.

    • @truth9133
      @truth9133 2 года назад +58

      Criminal trump: "just say it was corrupt and I and the Republicans will take care of the rest"

    • @JasonBoyce
      @JasonBoyce 2 года назад +39

      in "unprecedented times" they think alternate electors and the vice president can simply overrule the will of the people, and now the vice president is kamala harris. that's an interesting power for the vice president to have 😂

    • @Mt-ue9qz
      @Mt-ue9qz 2 года назад +33

      @@JasonBoyce since V.P. has do much power why not have Ms. Harris begin rank choice voting, obliterate the electoral college, assign term limits officially arrest and indict the clown clan because, you know... unprecedented times n all.

  • @georgewilson4245
    @georgewilson4245 10 месяцев назад +3

    Explanation is totally necessary. When you do the crime you will need to do the time...in a prison.

  • @MGrand-du7wz
    @MGrand-du7wz 3 месяца назад +1

    it boggles my mind that people would try this.

  • @thomaschapman8312
    @thomaschapman8312 2 года назад +1615

    Shouldn’t they be prosecuted for forging official documents especially as they are elected officials ?

    • @kkaybaltimore
      @kkaybaltimore 2 года назад +59

      Yes.

    • @estocadatx8172
      @estocadatx8172 2 года назад +43

      Yes, absolutely!

    • @CMOSjockey
      @CMOSjockey 2 года назад +83

      I sincerely hope they are, as THAT is voter fraud.

    • @itsjustmeagain986
      @itsjustmeagain986 2 года назад +83

      In my state intentional forgery (fraud) is punishable with a possible sentence of 7 to 14 years in prison. Letting this slide will encourage them to repeat their crimes.

    • @warrinbang1191
      @warrinbang1191 2 года назад +52

      Of course, they should be charged. But the real question is will they be charged.

  • @Olddeadleadfoot
    @Olddeadleadfoot 2 года назад +111

    It's time to abolish the electoral college.

  • @dennisbruechert6233
    @dennisbruechert6233 10 месяцев назад +1

    Keep at it Rachel...I'm from WI and want accountability

  • @rpowarz
    @rpowarz 2 года назад +3

    BUSTED!

  • @victorcelna3028
    @victorcelna3028 2 года назад +37

    "Why did I do that? You need to speak to the organizer about my actions."

    • @StopWhining491
      @StopWhining491 2 года назад +2

      Translation: I'm a mindless robot who does whatever I'm programmed to do.

  • @dariussims430
    @dariussims430 2 года назад +60

    Forget asking them questions they can spend the next 5 to 10 years in prison thinking about why they did what they did

    • @ronwest217
      @ronwest217 2 года назад +1

      But will they ever be prosecuted?

  • @angeldelcourt6882
    @angeldelcourt6882 10 месяцев назад +2

    Put them in prison. Throw away the key.

  • @lazurm
    @lazurm 10 месяцев назад +2

    When I think about all the people who have died and been injured in defense for democracy and the right to vote for a government meant to represent the will of the voters and then I see these people who, without any moral compass, selfishly don't care about anything but obtaining their own power by any means necessary my feelings of revulsion and anger overwhelm me. They must be tried and punished severely and sooner than later.

  • @ArtHistoryNstuff332
    @ArtHistoryNstuff332 2 года назад +318

    That guy is a traitor to our nation, as are all of them. The evidence is pretty damning that all them committed fraud and forgery, at the very least. His avoidance of answering is an admittance of guilt. Guilty people avoid, innocent people answer.

    • @andrefasset3266
      @andrefasset3266 2 года назад +4

      Art, I would love to put several gross adjectives in front of your word "traitor", but the auto-erase algorithm at RUclips would delete it.

    • @pamelapeterson2987
      @pamelapeterson2987 2 года назад +8

      Eleven people just got arrested/charged for seditious conspiracy. I'm guessing all these frauds are on the short list for the same charges. We'll just work our way up the Trumplican food chain...

    • @ramonascottkemp2279
      @ramonascottkemp2279 2 года назад +1

      @@andrefasset3266 lol

    • @ramonascottkemp2279
      @ramonascottkemp2279 2 года назад +2

      @@pamelapeterson2987 God I can still dream 🤔

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 2 года назад +4

      It's a coup attempt

  • @jamesross1003
    @jamesross1003 2 года назад +102

    The guy says it's not been litigated in court. Oh, I beg to differ to the tune of 60 times. But fine let's litigate it in one more time in court with an indictment for all of these forgers.

    • @flowerchild3686
      @flowerchild3686 2 года назад +5

      AND SCOTUS WOULDN'T EVEN HEAR IT BECAUSE THEY KNEW TRUMP WAS A DELUSIONAL LIAR!! ANY COURT STILL INVESTIGATING WAS IN ON IT!!

    • @beebuzz959
      @beebuzz959 2 года назад +1

      I think you're wrong, I think its 61 times.

    • @jamesross1003
      @jamesross1003 2 года назад +1

      @@beebuzz959 Ok, my apologies. I can admit when I am wrong.

  • @lancemiller4647
    @lancemiller4647 10 месяцев назад +2

    He'll have plenty of time to get his story right while resting in Jail..!!!

  • @ronadams3107
    @ronadams3107 2 года назад +2

    How are these people NOT in jail?

  • @Sendu7
    @Sendu7 2 года назад +38

    So a forged document is just a 'dueling opinion'? I wonder how that would play out in court?

    • @jerrymeeuwse859
      @jerrymeeuwse859 2 года назад +6

      Yeah just like Kellyanne Conway and her alternate facts. If you or I pulled some crap like that we would be held without bail faster than Trump can tell a lie.

    • @jollyjoker888
      @jollyjoker888 2 года назад

      @ Stephen ; " dueling opinion " !! ..Sgt Schiltz : " crack me up !"

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 2 года назад +2

      @@jerrymeeuwse859 The MOMENT Kellyanne said the words "alternative facts" I knew our nation had wandered into the twilight zone. There IS NO SUCH THING as alternative facts. There are facts, lies, and errors. You can also HAVE an opinion but you can't present one as a fact. That's it. No alternative facts.

    • @dawnbrown6578
      @dawnbrown6578 2 года назад

      GQP loves those alternative facts.

  • @asbe0180
    @asbe0180 2 года назад +171

    I'm no expert, but this sure sounds like a felonious conspiracy.

    • @andrewcrowder4958
      @andrewcrowder4958 2 года назад +8

      RICO. Get one to squeal, then roll
      up the whole crew.

    • @ramonascottkemp2279
      @ramonascottkemp2279 2 года назад +2

      Any fraud involving an election is considered a felony. All states are governed in the same way it comes to election voter registration, therefore the federal government has jurisdiction and President Joe Biden could certainly pardon this lady.

    • @ritemolawbks8012
      @ritemolawbks8012 2 года назад +6

      The GOP claims to believe in election integrity and are serious about election fraud, so we'll see if any of the new laws they've proposed would address this.

    • @id10t98
      @id10t98 2 года назад

      Banana Republic Status: ACHIEVED

    • @ramonascottkemp2279
      @ramonascottkemp2279 2 года назад +2

      @@ritemolawbks8012 it doesn't have to be a new law. The law is already on the books you finagle with an election that is a felony. No I want to see these idiots slide by this one because more than likely they will! I could just imagine if Hunter Biden pretended to be an elector! He'd end up like Epstein 🤦‍♀️

  • @jeffanderson8384
    @jeffanderson8384 9 месяцев назад +1

    Have they seized their phones yet?!?!?!?!
    It would seem that might shed a WHOLE lot of light on who was calling who and pulling strings.
    This slow walk to justice is getting aggravating.

  • @tube95759
    @tube95759 10 месяцев назад +2

    Justice must be served.

  • @raphaelabotticelli1501
    @raphaelabotticelli1501 2 года назад +86

    "We are going to get to the bottom of this". THANK YOU!!!!!!

    • @JRoss-zxzx
      @JRoss-zxzx 2 года назад +4

      We just need the justice department to do something once we do.

  • @playwithyourfood1962
    @playwithyourfood1962 2 года назад +1007

    For a party thats been yelling election is rigged, it seems they have a lot rigging done during election. 😂

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 2 года назад +81

      They are masters at projection

    • @mossydog6968
      @mossydog6968 2 года назад +55

      Of course!! How else would they have known that the election was rigged.
      If ANYONE tells you that the only way that they can lose a contest BEFORE the contest even starts, you know for sure that something is very, very wrong.

    • @danielminutilli5372
      @danielminutilli5372 2 года назад +58

      It is unraveling. They will turn on each other the more we find out, to save themselves. Rats fleeing a sinking ship. Keep digging Rachel. I'll make more popcorn.

    • @jdiepjd
      @jdiepjd 2 года назад +33

      Thank you! Well said! They are the true color of RIGGING. Noone else but themselves.

    • @jazldazl9193
      @jazldazl9193 2 года назад +17

      This was minor, wait til 2024

  • @sonjeow
    @sonjeow 10 месяцев назад +2

    "If you have nothing to hide, you should be able to talk, right?"

  • @peterbland7227
    @peterbland7227 2 года назад +7

    I fear those that funded and organized this will escape prosecution. If I knowingly falsified a document in my job, I’d be fired immediately.

  • @redordead4491
    @redordead4491 2 года назад +25

    THIS IS THE BIG STORY!! Keep up the good work 👍

  • @ragingmonk6080
    @ragingmonk6080 2 года назад +49

    The only thing "unprecedented" was you trying to overturn a legal election result.

  • @tonyface2007
    @tonyface2007 2 года назад +2

    Talk of entitlement, they looked like they were waiting in line for the complaints dept at Walmart and not committing fraud at best, treason at worst.

  • @meomy1937
    @meomy1937 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can’t wait until we put all theses traitors in jail.

  • @valerienady3499
    @valerienady3499 2 года назад +267

    Expose all these "Americans" ! They need to answer to their fellow Americans for their actions and be held accountable.

    • @cathiking9025
      @cathiking9025 2 года назад +7

      These are NOT americans

    • @Oshann0n
      @Oshann0n 2 года назад +2

      yes

    • @rubeen3504
      @rubeen3504 2 года назад +4

      The obvious fact is that US laws don't not apply to everyone.

  • @jonathancapps1103
    @jonathancapps1103 2 года назад +9

    Each time I hear about this, more states are involved.

  • @richardwilliams8863
    @richardwilliams8863 2 года назад +2

    Get them out of office they are serving

  • @sanchezd981
    @sanchezd981 2 года назад +1

    That is the face of guilty of getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

  • @justinczech1489
    @justinczech1489 2 года назад +134

    See how he tries to give his bs answer but the reporter keeps at it? Well done

    • @mossydog6968
      @mossydog6968 2 года назад +6

      👍👍👍👍

    • @JohnBailey39
      @JohnBailey39 2 года назад +7

      Well.. this is how a journalist is supposed to work.
      A journalist's job is to ask questions in the public interest. Not the politician's interest. They are asking on our behalf.
      They get extra rights and freedoms to pursue the story without official or legal interference so long as they are acting in the public interest. And even more importantly, are protected only so long as they don't make it up.
      Sadly.. Far far too often, news show presenters and political propaganda is all we get.
      We need a free press.
      Sadly, what we seem to mostly get is an unaccountable press.

    • @scooooter37
      @scooooter37 2 года назад +6

      We need more of that…

    • @TheBiggreenpig
      @TheBiggreenpig 2 года назад +1

      Well, he is a criminal, so he should better be silent, or anything he says could be used against him.

  • @adrianaguirre7006
    @adrianaguirre7006 2 года назад +157

    When a man is digging his own grave don't fight him for the shovel.

  • @doncherf2610
    @doncherf2610 9 месяцев назад +1

    Send them all to prison. There is no better way to handle criminals involved in politics.

  • @OffBeatLondon101
    @OffBeatLondon101 9 месяцев назад +3

    His facila expressions and body language all say that he is terrified. Jail time is a very real prospect for him.

  • @kevinmcinerney1959
    @kevinmcinerney1959 2 года назад +42

    "It was an unprecedented situation. So a dozen of us appointed ourselves as representing 7 million people, and forged a document to say we had the authority we didn't. The 7 million? Who cares about them?".

    • @jb888888888
      @jb888888888 2 года назад

      Both sides appoint electors before the actual election and then what's supposed to happen is whichever side wins the state, their electors are the ones who submit their EC votes. So what they did wasn't 100% unprecedented. Only about 95%.

  • @user-wq4yu9xr4g
    @user-wq4yu9xr4g 2 года назад +606

    Arizona citizen here; that man needs to be prosecuted for fraud. Everyone that signed that document should be prosecuted for fraud.

    • @gemanscombe4985
      @gemanscombe4985 2 года назад +24

      Looks like vote fraud to me, and for the Electoral College vote count - where the election is really decided. If (R)s are so concerned about vote fraud, here it is! Oh, I see - it's THEIR fraud. Never mind ... .

    • @twill9278
      @twill9278 2 года назад +40

      And seditious conspiracy.
      These are serious crimes.

    • @JLee-rt6ve
      @JLee-rt6ve 2 года назад +29

      Also stupidity in the first degree. Did the signers really expect nobody would notice?

    • @PapagenoMF
      @PapagenoMF 2 года назад +20

      KA - you're in a position where you have power in Arizona as a citizen. Please scream it to the roof top. Contact the attorney general's office. Make a stink!

    • @forrestcommander6283
      @forrestcommander6283 2 года назад +20

      As an AZ citizen, you can contact your AG and anyone else, and have him removed for violation of his oath and violation of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. No person in office under the United States in any fashion can be appointed an elector.
      His actions were knowingly and deliberately a violation.

  • @hillbillydeluxe27
    @hillbillydeluxe27 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why haven’t these people been charged? I bet he wouldn’t have that smug holier-than-thou look on his face if a federal judge asked him those questions.

  • @dreamcrone
    @dreamcrone 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Rachel!❤️

  • @cantsay8894
    @cantsay8894 2 года назад +13

    Why hasn’t he been arrested?

    • @xjunkxyrdxdog89
      @xjunkxyrdxdog89 2 года назад +2

      Because we live in an oligarchy. Their class doesn't face consequences... those are for the peasants.

  • @caipirinha_king1632
    @caipirinha_king1632 2 года назад +535

    This man literally swallowed his heart when he realized the direction this questioning was going 😂😂

    • @rubeen3504
      @rubeen3504 2 года назад +10

      And then he realized that US laws dont apply to everyone. Some people just are oblivious to how the system actually works.

    • @pasttensehouseofmouse5194
      @pasttensehouseofmouse5194 2 года назад +13

      Yeah, he will claim executive privy- like the rest of djt's sycophants. LOL

    • @c.j4209
      @c.j4209 2 года назад +6

      In real time 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @Yaveren
      @Yaveren 2 года назад +7

      No heart

    • @MetalMama-zb4wg
      @MetalMama-zb4wg 2 года назад +18

      ...And republicians say democrats cheat!

  • @ladyhawke-tt4un
    @ladyhawke-tt4un 10 месяцев назад +2

    ALL SHOULD GO TO JAIL IF FIND GUILT.

  • @butterflyd1269
    @butterflyd1269 10 месяцев назад +3

    This story has broken wide open since your reporting!!! Michigan has charged 16 ppl so far.