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The funniest part is her community isn't the entire vtuber Community every vtuber has their own community just like every RUclipsr has their own community these are the same people who save the rest of the countries has to do what their country does and then complain about things like cultural appropriation as the advocate for it
I'm not even a car guy, but the smell of gasoline or hot tires hits just right. Sort of like hot charcoal or a wood fire. Logically it's poison, but it's intoxicating.
I read one tweet that said something along the lines of "As somebody who has a learning disability, I always found it insulting when people are offended on my behalf. I'm not a child who needs to be coddled by restricting what words other people are allowed to use" And I 1000% agree with them.
When someone with a learning disability makes someone feel stupid, is there anything better? On the other hand I used to know this bloke, he was a nice fella, but he thought he was smarter than everyone He would get up in front of the class and pretend he was highly intelligent, my mate was laughing leant over and said, why isnt he doing physics with us then? Sorry im rambling
to be fair most of the people offended just tell those who have mental issues that they're basically too stupid to know to be offended, then report them for using the word in their post.
It's kinda similar to the whole "Latinx" thing. Me and others I know fucking hate being labeled as such, not only did we not ask for it but in the context of our language it makes no sense.
I love how people forget streaming etiquette: "If you like my content, then welcome. Here's a cookie. If you don't, you can leave. I ain't holding you hostage"
Twitter freaks mindset: *iam a hostage/victim even though no one is tying me down to a chair and forcing me to watch a livestream. Instead I choose to watch this,get angy, and after go to Twitter to complain about it cause... I AM STARVING FOR ATTENTION!!!*
@@-welfin- lucky my mom gave me the I’m gonna tell u straight way of *”if your gonna act like an idiot then people will treat you like an idiot. So use your common sense”*
I don't get what effect those people on Twitter think not saying the word "retard" would have. Even disregarding the fact it's not even a slur, the only thing that banning the use of a word does is encourage people to use a new word that means exactly the same thing as a substitute. Everyone would know it means exactly the same thing, so it effectively makes no difference. Like, someone could just go to a thesaurus and start using a synonym of the word people don't want them saying.
There's already a lot of synonyms of retard from either the literal term and the medical term that became slang. A LOT of people say the synonyms from slang so much they know what the source is.
@@adyatma1 Its like how black people went from telling everyone to call them black because "coloured" was offense To now asking everyone to call them coloured again What changed? *Some people view one as an insult while half view the other as an insult* Everyone is sitting there going "What do you want!?"
I'm loving this "Don't give a shit, take a hike losers" arc. These clowns are even going after Silvervale and Nyanners now for not admonishing Vei for it... nobody should cater to these bird app freaks.
Exactly. Their the epiphany of pathetic. I say retard all the time. Because at worst, all that's gonna happen is your poor feelings are gonna get hurt. I owe no one nothing. After all as the great Michaelangelo once said "if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen"
What did the Twitter freaks expect? They harassed, doxed, and made death threats on Silvervale over Hogwarts Legacy. Did they really expect her to admonish or abandon one of her friends in favor of the assholes who tormented her?
@@The-Singularity-X01 I would hope that he censors liberal beliefs on there so that we don’t have harassment on there anymore. Actually never mind. Conservatives harass people too. But we need to deal with these Twitter freaks effectively somehow!
Most streamers are entertainers. They aren't your personal therapist, pen pal or fuck buddy. They are their own person and can say and do whatever they want. Nobody can take that away from them.
Most streamers don't even know you enough as a username in their chat, if you aren't one of the hyper fans, you are just a random for them. And it's also not their job! When somebody needs a therapist to get over his/her personal problems - there are professionals for that too or they can do it pippa style with an ai therapist :D
Making a safe space is impossible anyway. Just because the creator has a safe space, it doesn't guarantee that everyone in that community will respect it as safe
For me, such wording "safe space" is kinda incorrect. If you making a space/community, you're making a place, where you entertaining people with same interests and etc. I don't how to say it correctly, but yeah...
what they in reality mean with safe space is that they want a space where they can dictate what the people in that space has to say, think and do. The problem is - these people demanding save spaces are too much NPC to be able to create one for themselves - so they think they are entitled that others make one for them.
The idea of adults needing 'safe spaces' with their favourite entertainers is the most parasocially insane thing I have ever heard, how tf do they expect themselves to function as adults if they cant handle the fact that people around them will act/speak differently and have different values from them. Jesus I don't even particularly like hearing the R word myself but surprisingly, it doesn't take the willpower of sitting through an amputation to not make a fuss over it.
@@sw0578Basic human decency entails granting others the right to free speech. Without that, not only is there no decency, there's no democracy, at all. In what universe is a thought police compatible with "basic human decency"?
She ain't wrong tho. Most of the people complaining about her usage of the word aren’t even fans of hers or watch her content. They just want to police what other people say or do, even when it has no impact on their lives or the lives of anyone close to them. It's so annoying and cringe.
It's always amusing to watch them dredge up their "oppressed people" shields to try and deflect any criticism. "You're a moron." "Oh my god, you're calling me, a trans person, a moron? GUYS! LOOK! SHE'S CALLING ALL TRANS PEOPLE MORONS!" It's so ridiculous. It's like terminal little-sibling mentality, where they start shit with someone and then run to hide behind their big brother/sister for protection.
I don't watch Idubbz but I was allowed to feel a way when he dropped the N word back then. To tell people who was targeted by the word that they are just being cringe is wild. What's cringe is with as many words in the English language you only huddle around the few that targeted a group of people
"said offensive words on stream and hurt people's feelings, even worse got them angry" damn if they said she refused to apologize I would have got bingo.
@@xxkankala1671Dude. Are you new on the internet or a terminally twitter user? No sane individual will hand you any social leverage here if they're not bound by a contract.
People used to be good people while having enough of a sense of humor not to take everything so seriously. Nowadays they pretend to be all peaceful and inclusive while secretly being backstabbing snakes who jump at any opportunity to destroy one another. It's the same for fandoms, the more sweet and wholesome the media is, the more genuinely toxic the fandom is.
@@ninjapirate1721 hella lot better. I rather some one call me stupid or a slur in a fun manner while help me, than say nice nothings and not help. That was how the internet was back then.
@@ninjapirate1721 How that's better? Because it's much more honest. You know, narcists and liars will always act nice to you and behind your back they will stab you and talk shit about you etc. But people who have their honest opinion on their mouth even if seem as "toxic" are at least honest. And often it's the facade to hide a more vulnerable inner self.
They are cultists. "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult." To them everything must be a "safe space", that is "a space dictated entirely by cult doctrine". And they've been this way for centuries. When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness. Sounds familiar? The cult is very old. Consider that by the times of Aristotle it was already ancient. Part of the reason Aristotle codified the fallacies was because he got sick of arguing with morons and cultists.
@@ismaelsantos5378 "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult." Clever, clever, I see exactly what you're doing here. Keep it up, you are over the target.
I love the fact that her redebut sparked chaos to the Twitter Police. Is like a chain reaction that only benefits no one except her while enjoying the fireworks. Props on getting more followers that way.
As someone who is "neurodivergent", I never asked for someone to shield me from slurs. I would never want verbal restrictions on anyone, I want people to speak their minds. that way, we can UNDERSTAND eachother, instead of being a smooth-brain, toxic environment with hate being distributed randomly and no one knows whats right or wrong. As a message to the newer generations, hate is like drugs, once you pick it up, its hard to put back down...
Exactly. As a diagnosed aspie (guy with Asperger's, just to clarify), I don't care about slurs. You can even hear one in the "Ayo the pizza here" meme, when the guy shouts the n-word after tripping down stairs. He did not target black people for this, he just... said it without any meaning at all. Trying to cancel someone over a certain word used in a *non-insulting* context? Nah that's fuckin retarded.
I took the "Bye R-" as what you say to like a brother, I don't understand why these people just wanna tone police others and then send accolades to harass them, acolytes who don't even watch their stuff to begin with.
When the only source of a parental figure is the internet, it is little wonder why they are so twisted. Also, accolades is the wrong word for that statement, you may have been thinking of acolytes.
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Fun fact the term retard isn’t even a slur, the medical definition is retardation. My brother has this condition as well, people just take offense to everything.
True, it became a slur when people used it against other people in reference to the mental condition. It then got tossed around until it only referenced the people under it meanwhile nobody bats an eye on other definitions like fire retardant objects.
It's not just a condition it's a Category sometimes it can be offensive sometimes people don't care honestly it's just to respect peoples boundaries. Sure I really wouldn't care for the word even tho I have Autism, Bipolar and sometimes social anxiety but some people would care and it's not being over sensitive because they probably was called that all their life and it can get really annoying. but what's more annoying is taking it too far by reporting and using it as a way to ruin someone
Seeing Vei fighting back against antis is a beautiful sight to see. Someone's gotta put them in their place. Otherwise the world would be full of self-entitled sheep with god complexes.
@@HenshinFanatic well, perhabs, without any offense, you need to learn more about her. Especially Nyanners is more than the Gossip that is spread about her, she has a more difficult to understand personal history than many others.
@@HenshinFanatic Nyanners is just as irreverent as Vei. And what do irreverent people do best? Piss off sanctimonious cultists who believe their Cult is above mockery and scrutiny.
Nah, Twitter just streamlines the process. The Cult these freaks are part of, even if they don't know it, is very old. It was called "ancient" by *greek philsophers like Aristotle or Plato*. When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness. Sounds familiar?
@@a_jay7630 i'm not sure if i'm in a "they should just grow a pair" mood or a "ok yeah maybe she should stop trying to be Shadow the Hedgehog" mood... I know i was feeling the former when i posted my original comment and even now that shit lookin kinda 😩
Autism and retardation are literally not the same thing. It would be like if someone called you a cripple because you're autistic -- doesn't logically follow, no connection.
I finally understood what you meant back in the other video, and this video was really clarifying about your feelings towards all this. It was a mindboggle to me, as a future content creator, that you, as a content creator, married to a content creator, would not "want a child of theirs within 1000 miles of vtubers and the vtubing community. It's not so much as the actual VTuber community, infact as you mentioned there doesn't seem to be one, as it is about these terminally online people who have no better things to do than to be toxic. And i have to say, as usual, that i agree with your sentiments and opinion, and Vei there did open my mind about things i thought i had to do (the so called safe language) in order to stream. Now I don't intend to drop f and r bombs left and right but at least i now know it ain't really so bad if one manages to slip, especially given how i grew up thinking these were cool (esl problems, blame rap music) and it kinda grew in my language. Thank you.
The cultist freaks operate on the premise of "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult." They blow everything out of proportion because in their minds every single thing that deviates from cult doctrine is heresy and blasphemy (except they say "bigotry" and "hate speech", because the higher ups don't want the existence of the Cult to be public, and the vast majority of morons don't even know they are in a cult) and therefore demands their full attention, at least until they move on to the next thing, the puritan purge fails, or the priests and heralds ("experts/scholars/professors" and "journalists/influencers" respectively) call them to a different action.
Nothing would change. Just look at the youtube comments on FalseEyeD's video about this matter, all those commenters sucking themselves off about how terrible Veibae is and that they hated her all the time anyway and they themselves are so much more moral and btw did you know Veibae is friends with a transphobe omg wtf how could anybody support her and her fans are just terrible people bla bla bla. Twitter is not really worse than reddit or youtube, it's just easier to make drama out of tweets.
The problem isn't Twitter. The problem is The Cult. The Cult is at war with reality itself, and, like all cultists, are a bunch of sanctimonious hipocritical assholes who believe their cult is above mockery and scrutiny. Until The Cult is dealt a fatal blow and wiped from existence nothing will change, they will just move the next twitter and continue. And when I say The Cult, I'm not being hyperbolic. The Inquisition was created largely to erradicate this cult and Plato called this cult "ancient". These twitter freaks are just the latest iteration of the Cult.
@@alorem123 Retard isnt a hit word for the algorithm, its just Rev’s personal preference, which I respect. But it makes me cringe because of how serious it sounds lol.
Censoring the word rape makes even less sense. That's just a crime, and if it happens, it needs to be stated as such. Murder is worse than rape, and we've never heard anyone refer to murder as "the m-word", right?
@@StochasticUniverse I 100% agree, but I understand RUclips is the culprit for him having to do that. Since they age restrict thing with rape as a topic. (Which is also stupid) but it is what it is, in the land of the free, home of the double standards with violence vs sex.
the Vtweeters putting up a freaking storm about this are making me turn around on people who were part of Vshojo. they are really helping promote them. also, i love how they keep trying to push that Vei is being immature, like they have any room to talk. the people threatening violence over an untargeted use of a pedestrian "slur" are the ones preaching about growing up.
Since when is "retard" even a slur? I always saw it used as an *insult,* but an insult isn't a slur. Well, every slur is an insult, but not every insult is a slur.
It's only a slur when used towards those for whom the word is no longer acceptable (mentally handicapped people). By their logic, "tranny" as shorthand for a car transmission is a "slur".
It's not a slur by itself, but its _actual_ meaning ("to delay or impede the development or progress of" or "to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment") is just one that's easy to use as an insult.
It's beginning to feel like a return to the wild west days, of the internet, and I , for one, welcome, it. Respect, to these three women, keep holding the line, never apologize.
@@ObeyNoLies In my eyes Nyanners is a bit misunderstood by the Rey fans: Yes, she don't likes Lolicon and yes, she thinks that some lolicon art could make people be interested into RL children (which is of course wrong, when somebody gets attracted to real children when he watches Lolicon he had that attraction in him already, it wasn't just exposed yet). And she took that video down what she didn't liked anymore. But I haven't seen her going after the more lolicon members of VShojo like Nazuna or outside of VShojo. It seems most to me that her opinion is just: "I don't want to deal with that stuff anymore, what you do for yourself I don't care, but please don't bother me anymore". I mean, she also didn't denied her 4chan past - she just said: "I'm grown out of it". That's absolutely ok. Nobody should be forced to always stay on the same thinking all his time. And people get different opinions over time. At least and that's in my eyes the important part: She is not trying to hide her past or like many Twitter Freaks comes with "lolicons are pedophiles" while having lolicon art liked recently. She just says: "It's my past, I prefer to live in the present"
@@acmenipponair She said a lot more than that, she got very vicious calling multiple people PDF files and going on a tear, she had it coming. I think the drama really started when some creep that makes Halo videos starting calling her a PDF file and then said he respects people who look at CP more than lolicons. That's the thing you have to realize my friend, the human mind has a need for this thing called 'congruence', most people can't be one thing and the switch completely to another thing all the time (some can, but they are few in number) most folks eventually justify their behavior. In this case Nyan and the Halo video guy both exposed their own inner dark and then projected it on others. That's the problem, that needs to be called out. Nyanners is an incredibly vicious personality sometimes and people don't need to take her shit. Does she have the capacity to learn and grow up? Of course, but I'm not gonna babysit her until she does.
If you are talking about the Wizard game situation you dont have to make a PR statement to have someone's back And despite what happen with the end of her Auto mod statement live stream where she broke down about being doxxed,her mom (who mods for her)getting doxxed, and her friends who mod for her getting doxxed in retaliation for blocking and banning...........she still stood up for herself just find and played the game next She laughed off her moment of weakness with a "Fuck you" to the Twitter Freaks
@@acmenipponair She's not misunderstood, she's well understood that she's a hypocrite no different than the twitter freaks and that's why she's disliked. She even tried cancelling Nux with that whole drama, which is how we know she hasn't changed, its just that now she just knows that she can't FA or she'll FO.
One crucial difference between getting the r-word online and saying it in front of someone's face irl, is that irl you can't really turn away from someone saying that. But online, you have a choice to easily avoid people like that.
it's because they think they're so mature that we all know they really aren't. Only when they realize they still have a long way to go will they have truly gained maturity.
@@randomperson8375 Isn't that exactly the trade of kids and young people - that they believe they are sooooo mature - but in reality, they aren't but just children and have to learn much. For example to NOT get offended over some words.
There is nothing wrong with the word. 30 years ago it was the word that those same exact type of people were pushing. I am 50. My woke school teachers told us to use that word. Now it's a slur? What I can't believe is that there are people my age who go along with this nonsense. They have lived long enough to see the blatant nonsense and hypocrisy. They just don't care. I don't blame the young people. They don't know any better.
@@acmenipponair Nah when I was a kid, I thought i knew everything but I still listened to those with credentials/experience Kids these days are in some fantasy land of their own making, and until recently, they have lived in an echo chamber Thats changing it seems
These people would try to find where they live, but then realize their lives would be empty without anyone to complain about, cause they have lack of motivation to have their own goals that doesn't involve negativity.
It's a Cult. And a very old one. When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness. Sounds familiar?
Remember everyone: "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." The amount of times we've seen people freak out and clearly not take that saying as helpful advice is truly baffling.
It's faux outrage. Mock anger because they want to be seen as edgy or cool and appealing to other cool edgelords. In Elara's case it seems to needing to get laid really bad but being such a shut-in the opportunity never comes up. Most of these female streamers do just need a dick to cure their insanity, and most of their male simps just need to have their jimmies rustled. You can tell which ones have been laid because those are the fully adults and those who haven't are desperate trying to appeal to everyone in hopes that someone will somehow break through their intense self-isolating behavior to cure their underlying mental condition of blue balls. Veibae, Silvervale, and Nyanners, as well as every other based VTubers including Strawb and Rev (obviously) are sane because they've made that physical connection with someone else and cured the insane. For politicians that push this insanity they know how desperate virgins and celibates are to get laid by a real person and push messages to either keep them from meeting OR end such relations to create more miserable, lonely, desperate people. Look at any political extremist / hardliner; if they're not in office pushing this rhetoric, they've not been laid in forever or ever and are repeating memes in desperation. Such as "Retard is a slur! OMG VEIBAE IS THE WORST! Come to my safe space and (please date me)"
Now try to get a cultist who believes wholeheartedly in "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult" to understand that simple concept.
But it wasn't offensive less than a generation ago. I'm Gen X we used it all the time and it had a clinical meaning before that. It's still used in baking. Lol 😆
ehh it depends I say it all the time but I would never use towards someone with an actual mental disability and this is coming from a dude that has OCD
@@Danny-mp8dq I have ADHD and I’ve been told it all the time. Granted it was by my older brother and not a complete stranger. I didn’t think much of it, I just thought it was playful banter.
Broadly agree with your sentiments in this video. I want to point out one part that I feel is a slippery slope: 3:52 > "this 100 follower account is going to gatekeep who's allowed in the vtuber community" I don't believe follower count is a valid detail to point out when making this statement. No user, no matter their follower count, should feel they're entitled to gatekeep the entire VTuber ecosystem. A user account arguably has the authority to say what their own follower community's culture should be like and certainly has authority over what their posted content should be like. Thank you for broadcasting the word that it's a mistake to believe authority over one's follower community can be extended to everyone else's content and communities. Of course, it's another story if it's an admin account representing the interests of the entity that's hosting and maintaining the hardware that runs the platform.
Rev to be really honest...You're a great role model. When I get children in the future (from a playground preferably), I will definitely let them watch your videos all day, in hopes to create some common sense and decency in them. Thank you for uploading 🤤
@@oriongear2499 No you're wrong. The moment I saw that cute loli model, I knew that he would be the perfect parental figure for my/our children. Can't you see...this is perfection😍
@@oriongear2499 Better role model than 100% of the teaching industry nowadays that loves shoving inappropriate garbage down kids throats.... and fondle'em too
@@datboi8357she even times you out in chat if you so much as make subtle references to Pomf Pomf Pomf, not even out of malice but because that’s how you first heard of her and thought her cover was funny.
The fact that 'retarded' is considered a slur now is hilarious. That word has been used commonly pre-2015 as a harsher version of the word 'stupid'. Even if someone got offended, no one cared at that time because the internet is not your safe space and it never will. We need more brave edgelords who just wanna have fun.
The reason Veibae truly doesn't give a shit is because she uses this term a lot. It's part of her daily vocabulary. The fact that they don't know that and is sperging out about a single time use just shows they don't watch her anyway and are not part of her viewer base. They're, once again, being outraged over what someone they don't even watch is doing. It's so fucking mentally ill.
I'm still on the fence about Silver (not because of Hogwarts but because of some earlier stuff?) and Nyanners over her loli comments, but a step towards not giving in to Twitter's collective insanity is a good step. At least we know they're not completely brainwashed. And I'm glad to know people like Vei still exist out there.
Retard is an insult, not a slur. "Impressionable people." The people watching V-Tubers are adults. They are not kids. They make their own decisions. Nice work on the insults, twitter. Maybe I should start saying Impressionable People is a slur.
Well it is a slur depending on how it is used. Hate speech on people with disabilities mate. Just like F-word for homosexuals and N-word for black people. Saying "retard" isn't a insult. Calling someone a "retard" is however.
Shout-out to Veibae for standing her grown and I'm also very glad to here that Nyanners and Silvervale stuck up for her as well. Veibae has said some things that annoyed me in the past but then again I can't really name anyone who hasn't. Overall I like her a lot. She's cool.
Is there even really such as thing as a "VTuber Community"?...Seem more to me like a collection of faction communities that just happen to be centered around the genre...As is typically the case with "communities" from what I've often seen. I would really love to think that this may be a turning point in the "culture war", maybe some common sense coming back into fashion...But at the same time it also just feels like the polar extremes are just becoming more divided, and there's no middle ground on anything anymore...I donno.
Absolutely not. The larger culture war only continues, unabated, from here. I honestly wonder if the United States will be able to continue as a unified country or if we will have a civil war at some point in the not-inconceivably-distant future, and I don't say that lightly.
@@StochasticUniverse A "war" I doubt. a type of civil collapse, that's ultimately replaced with something else?...Maybe...Ultimately though, the more likely, and less dramatic, outcome will just be a generational reset. The older gen will grow old and die out angry and resentful(As per the norm.) of the new younger gen, which will start up their own fresh take on the viscous cycle of social unrest.
That person actually said it best she "hurt peoples feelings". Poor kids. And Vei is just telling them what they always say "Dont like? Dont watch it."
I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts this observation. I honestly find it odd creators make any kind of response anymore if they don’t think they made a mistake. Some of the most vile pedos and other similar degenerates, as well as good upstanding morally sound creators have proven time and time again that no matter how big something could be, you can take the wind out of the problems sails by literally pretending nothing happened. Irrelevant of whether or not it’s deserved has never changed the ultimate strategy of simply pretending nothing happened.
If you want it to go away you can just ignore it, if you want free publicity/money you can respond and even amplify it. These are the holy commandments that have existed since the moment you could earn money from ads on RUclips. Edit: Vei, like Nyanners, is an attention whore, of course she's going to respond when there are several people like Rev that are going to talk about it and vicariously bring in new or returning viewers, it's just how publicity works.
You know what would be sooo funny? If Vei, Silver and nyanners all went live and played Hogwarts Legacy at the same time just to trigger twitter freaks even more, that would be freakin hilarious 🤣🤣
"it's sad when content creators alienate a large part of the community" - crazy twittard im pretty sure that community is very small, very hated and everyone is kind of sick off
PC culture is being resurrected by the Zoomer generation. I guess they were sad they weren't alive for its first incarntion so they brought it back, heh.
Unlike some people trying to cancel them, all imma say is that its disrespectful of them to use that word and I don't respect them for doubling down. Its not that the word bothers me but It bothers others and is harmful for some people (Not the ones making a fuss but the ones who are actually affected by that word.) So unlike others who did their tweets calling them out. I just blocked them and no longer respect them. (Not like I ever had respect for veibae lol, but silver kinda shocked me not gonna lie, nyanners was expected.) But yeah people who go as far as to dox or try to bully, harass and ban them from platforms because "They don't belong in the Vtuber community" are full of it. Don't like it? Block and move on. Simple... but I get some are hurt because they liked them until these events but they'll get over it. I hope. Anyways love you rev, keep making awesome videos and you have a good day my guy! ;)
@@ninjapirate1721 Life goes on, and besides its not like they commited a crime. (Like actual predators, not lolicons obviously since I'm a rev viewer lol) But yeah used the word before and stopped when people started making it a big deal... but also because of people I know and respect that have been called that for their condition in the past. But I'll never go and tell someone that they're a bad person for using it, I'll warn them that some people won't take kindly to the usage of that word. I just worry about people getting into trouble is all.
@@ninjapirate1721 if not wanting character to boil down to flanderized versions of what they are supposed to be, their genitalia being literally all they have, having fat heroes that make no sense in existing or terribly done self inserts is being afraid of "woke" then i am
@@ninjapirate1721 A lot is, considering that they're being totally out-competed by manga at this point. I never thought I'd see D.C. and Marvel in such a state, but look at the statistics.
I dont know much about Veibae but well I dislike both Nyanners and Silvervale(less the latter) but it comes to me as a shock that they were the ones to defend Veibae given that their communities are safe spaces of sort
These people got too used to complaints about Veibae being a one way interaction since she part of an organization. The gloves are off now. She's full indie now and can clap back at anyone who gets a little too big for their britches, and she has the numbers and support to ratio pretty much any VTweeter out there.
I so much would like to see the responds to these tweets. Like, imagine the hundreds and thousands of avarage vtuber enjoyers just simply responding gtfo to these tweets.
Sadly, it isn't usually like that, because the enjoyers are people of positivity and they don't usually waste their time to do stuff like that. It's the same reason why there's a known negativity bias in things like Yelp reviews. Unhappy people live to bitch, and happy customers just shrug and go on about their lives. I worked for a major retailer once and the company did internal research that concluded that an unhappy customer was 13x more likely to leave a bad review than a happy customer was likely to leave a good review.
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"It's always disappointing when people tell others to leave their community"
Ah I love the smell of hypocrisy.
...I read that in Alucard's voice...
The funniest part is her community isn't the entire vtuber Community every vtuber has their own community just like every RUclipsr has their own community these are the same people who save the rest of the countries has to do what their country does and then complain about things like cultural appropriation as the advocate for it
Oh...well uh, I like the smell of gasoline after getting the tank freshly filled of my car
I'm not even a car guy, but the smell of gasoline or hot tires hits just right. Sort of like hot charcoal or a wood fire. Logically it's poison, but it's intoxicating.
@@j.r.huffnstuff3549 It is indeed, and maybe quite literally, intoxicating.
I read one tweet that said something along the lines of "As somebody who has a learning disability, I always found it insulting when people are offended on my behalf. I'm not a child who needs to be coddled by restricting what words other people are allowed to use" And I 1000% agree with them.
When someone with a learning disability makes someone feel stupid, is there anything better?
On the other hand I used to know this bloke, he was a nice fella, but he thought he was smarter than everyone
He would get up in front of the class and pretend he was highly intelligent, my mate was laughing leant over and said, why isnt he doing physics with us then?
Sorry im rambling
to be fair most of the people offended just tell those who have mental issues that they're basically too stupid to know to be offended, then report them for using the word in their post.
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
It's kinda similar to the whole "Latinx" thing. Me and others I know fucking hate being labeled as such, not only did we not ask for it but in the context of our language it makes no sense.
2:08 I feel like it's "basic human decency" not to harass people for playing games, but here we are
Me when words of screen 😢
I love how people forget streaming etiquette:
"If you like my content, then welcome. Here's a cookie.
If you don't, you can leave. I ain't holding you hostage"
Twitter freaks mindset: *iam a hostage/victim even though no one is tying me down to a chair and forcing me to watch a livestream. Instead I choose to watch this,get angy, and after go to Twitter to complain about it cause... I AM STARVING FOR ATTENTION!!!*
I'm glad we learned netiquette back in high school and digital footprints as well
@@-welfin- lucky my mom gave me the I’m gonna tell u straight way of *”if your gonna act like an idiot then people will treat you like an idiot. So use your common sense”*
@@waterking74 for me it was *"Treat others the way you want to be treated."*
@@freakysquirrel7218 we learned the opposite;
"Don't do unto others, what you don't want others to do unto you"
I don't get what effect those people on Twitter think not saying the word "retard" would have. Even disregarding the fact it's not even a slur, the only thing that banning the use of a word does is encourage people to use a new word that means exactly the same thing as a substitute. Everyone would know it means exactly the same thing, so it effectively makes no difference. Like, someone could just go to a thesaurus and start using a synonym of the word people don't want them saying.
Monkami, mongoloid, slow, anti-gifted?
Where are we?
There's already a lot of synonyms of retard from either the literal term and the medical term that became slang. A LOT of people say the synonyms from slang so much they know what the source is.
Soft words are kinda stupid imo
It's litterally the same meaning just "softer"
"Disabled" nah "physically challenged"
@@adyatma1 Its like how black people went from telling everyone to call them black because "coloured" was offense
To now asking everyone to call them coloured again
What changed?
*Some people view one as an insult while half view the other as an insult*
Everyone is sitting there going
"What do you want!?"
Seems like a lot of people are already using _autistic_ or _autist_ as a substitute.
I'm loving this "Don't give a shit, take a hike losers" arc.
These clowns are even going after Silvervale and Nyanners now for not admonishing Vei for it... nobody should cater to these bird app freaks.
Exactly. Their the epiphany of pathetic. I say retard all the time. Because at worst, all that's gonna happen is your poor feelings are gonna get hurt. I owe no one nothing. After all as the great Michaelangelo once said "if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen"
What did the Twitter freaks expect? They harassed, doxed, and made death threats on Silvervale over Hogwarts Legacy. Did they really expect her to admonish or abandon one of her friends in favor of the assholes who tormented her?
That's the only way you can combat them.
@@The-Singularity-X01 we’re would people go then
@@The-Singularity-X01 I would hope that he censors liberal beliefs on there so that we don’t have harassment on there anymore. Actually never mind. Conservatives harass people too. But we need to deal with these Twitter freaks effectively somehow!
Most streamers are entertainers. They aren't your personal therapist, pen pal or fuck buddy. They are their own person and can say and do whatever they want. Nobody can take that away from them.
Most streamers don't even know you enough as a username in their chat, if you aren't one of the hyper fans, you are just a random for them. And it's also not their job! When somebody needs a therapist to get over his/her personal problems - there are professionals for that too or they can do it pippa style with an ai therapist :D
Twitter freaks chooses stupidity or enablers over seeking professional help
slurs aren't Entertainment tho
@@RailwayScholar Lol, tell that Chris Rock.
@@RailwayScholar You don't get to decide that for everyone else. Stay mad.
Making a safe space is impossible anyway. Just because the creator has a safe space, it doesn't guarantee that everyone in that community will respect it as safe
For me, such wording "safe space" is kinda incorrect. If you making a space/community, you're making a place, where you entertaining people with same interests and etc. I don't how to say it correctly, but yeah...
I’d even call such a claim to a safe space as hypocrisy
what they in reality mean with safe space is that they want a space where they can dictate what the people in that space has to say, think and do. The problem is - these people demanding save spaces are too much NPC to be able to create one for themselves - so they think they are entitled that others make one for them.
@@caramelmonk3817 I get what you're saying. Maybe a 'niche space' is a good descriptor for it.
People who crave safe spaces are more than likely predators taking advantage of vulnerable people a so-called safe space would provide.
The idea of adults needing 'safe spaces' with their favourite entertainers is the most parasocially insane thing I have ever heard, how tf do they expect themselves to function as adults if they cant handle the fact that people around them will act/speak differently and have different values from them. Jesus I don't even particularly like hearing the R word myself but surprisingly, it doesn't take the willpower of sitting through an amputation to not make a fuss over it.
Aren't soda viewers like 12 years old?
There's a difference between "Safe Space" and "Basic Human Decency". Mocking a group of individuals online falls into the second.
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
@@sw0578 Whatever retard.
@@sw0578Basic human decency entails granting others the right to free speech. Without that, not only is there no decency, there's no democracy, at all.
In what universe is a thought police compatible with "basic human decency"?
She ain't wrong tho. Most of the people complaining about her usage of the word aren’t even fans of hers or watch her content. They just want to police what other people say or do, even when it has no impact on their lives or the lives of anyone close to them. It's so annoying and cringe.
That’s so true
That’s why u don’t bend to the mob that doesn’t even consume your product😂😂😂 aka why Dave chappelle can’t be cancelled
is like those who ask for censhorship in a game when they dont even play games. The so called "minority" that fight for free speech.
It's always amusing to watch them dredge up their "oppressed people" shields to try and deflect any criticism.
"You're a moron."
"Oh my god, you're calling me, a trans person, a moron? GUYS! LOOK! SHE'S CALLING ALL TRANS PEOPLE MORONS!"
It's so ridiculous. It's like terminal little-sibling mentality, where they start shit with someone and then run to hide behind their big brother/sister for protection.
I don't watch Idubbz but I was allowed to feel a way when he dropped the N word back then. To tell people who was targeted by the word that they are just being cringe is wild.
What's cringe is with as many words in the English language you only huddle around the few that targeted a group of people
"said offensive words on stream and hurt people's feelings, even worse got them angry" damn if they said she refused to apologize I would have got bingo.
😂👍❤️
So will you have the same reaction to the n word?
@@xxkankala1671Dude. Are you new on the internet or a terminally twitter user? No sane individual will hand you any social leverage here if they're not bound by a contract.
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
@@xxkankala1671 yes
I miss the days where people were so toxic to each other in the surface but so nice and sweet in reality
now unfortunatelly its the inverse
How is that better
People used to be good people while having enough of a sense of humor not to take everything so seriously. Nowadays they pretend to be all peaceful and inclusive while secretly being backstabbing snakes who jump at any opportunity to destroy one another. It's the same for fandoms, the more sweet and wholesome the media is, the more genuinely toxic the fandom is.
@Selin Naz Sur, welcome to the new segregation era,where they mask it in a nice way.
@@ninjapirate1721 hella lot better. I rather some one call me stupid or a slur in a fun manner while help me, than say nice nothings and not help. That was how the internet was back then.
@@ninjapirate1721 How that's better? Because it's much more honest. You know, narcists and liars will always act nice to you and behind your back they will stab you and talk shit about you etc. But people who have their honest opinion on their mouth even if seem as "toxic" are at least honest. And often it's the facade to hide a more vulnerable inner self.
When someone say the word “safe space” I only remember of that South Park episode. What out for “reality”
Vei is doing what everyone targeted by Twitter-freaks should do: "Don't like it? Too bad now GTFO."
She is quickly earning my respect.
Sodapoppin you lucky bastard.
Common Veibae W
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
It's funny seeing antis labeling Vei's streams as a "safe space" then getting mad because she didn't cater to them 😂 These antis are so entitled
They are cultists.
"All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult."
To them everything must be a "safe space", that is "a space dictated entirely by cult doctrine".
And they've been this way for centuries.
When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness.
Sounds familiar?
The cult is very old.
Consider that by the times of Aristotle it was already ancient. Part of the reason Aristotle codified the fallacies was because he got sick of arguing with morons and cultists.
@@ismaelsantos5378 "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult."
Clever, clever, I see exactly what you're doing here. Keep it up, you are over the target.
Glad to see Vei and the rest telling the constantly offended to get f'd. It's way past time we all did that. Never apologize. Double down.
I love the fact that her redebut sparked chaos to the Twitter Police. Is like a chain reaction that only benefits no one except her while enjoying the fireworks. Props on getting more followers that way.
What they did to pikamee removed any and all restraint I had at calling them out
No love lost
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
As someone who is "neurodivergent", I never asked for someone to shield me from slurs. I would never want verbal restrictions on anyone, I want people to speak their minds. that way, we can UNDERSTAND eachother, instead of being a smooth-brain, toxic environment with hate being distributed randomly and no one knows whats right or wrong. As a message to the newer generations, hate is like drugs, once you pick it up, its hard to put back down...
Exactly.
As a diagnosed aspie (guy with Asperger's, just to clarify), I don't care about slurs.
You can even hear one in the "Ayo the pizza here" meme, when the guy shouts the n-word after tripping down stairs.
He did not target black people for this, he just... said it without any meaning at all.
Trying to cancel someone over a certain word used in a *non-insulting* context? Nah that's fuckin retarded.
Neurodivergent 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 just say different or retarted
Hell, I encourage them. I mean treat me like you would anyone else. Just cause I'm a few crayons short of a box doesn't mean I'm made of glass.
I took the "Bye R-" as what you say to like a brother, I don't understand why these people just wanna tone police others and then send accolades to harass them, acolytes who don't even watch their stuff to begin with.
When the only source of a parental figure is the internet, it is little wonder why they are so twisted.
Also, accolades is the wrong word for that statement, you may have been thinking of acolytes.
@@carnackketral9904 yea, not my first language, never looked for the definition of each.
Because context is for the dead.
@@lord_boneman Context has been in the Enimen Basement for years with another C term, Common sense.
@@Saint_Wolf_ it's all good
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Fun fact the term retard isn’t even a slur, the medical definition is retardation. My brother has this condition as well, people just take offense to everything.
True, it became a slur when people used it against other people in reference to the mental condition. It then got tossed around until it only referenced the people under it meanwhile nobody bats an eye on other definitions like fire retardant objects.
I must be in an office because all i see is fax
@@jaidora or that retard is a term that belts out at you in a plane's cockpit telling you to decelerate while landing
It's not just a condition it's a Category sometimes it can be offensive sometimes people don't care honestly it's just to respect peoples boundaries. Sure I really wouldn't care for the word even tho I have Autism, Bipolar and sometimes social anxiety but some people would care and it's not being over sensitive because they probably was called that all their life and it can get really annoying. but what's more annoying is taking it too far by reporting and using it as a way to ruin someone
Autistic myself, I even call myself retarded.
There's nothing wrong with the word itself.
0 Neurodivergent people will be harmed because Vei said Retard.
0 Trans people will be harmed because Silver played Hogwarts Legacy.
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
*OBJECTION!*
I fell down the stairs the other day. It had to be Vei's fault.
Apathy is the ultimate weapon against twitter. It's like the social media equivalent of a nuke.
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Seeing Vei fighting back against antis is a beautiful sight to see. Someone's gotta put them in their place. Otherwise the world would be full of self-entitled sheep with god complexes.
Refreshing to see push back against Twitter's oversensitivity.
It was about damn time.
Very much, and I’m pleasantly surprised Nyanners is pushing back as well.
@@lord_boneman I'm more confused, as from the little I know this seems against her character.
@@HenshinFanatic well, perhabs, without any offense, you need to learn more about her. Especially Nyanners is more than the Gossip that is spread about her, she has a more difficult to understand personal history than many others.
@@HenshinFanatic Nyanners is just as irreverent as Vei.
And what do irreverent people do best? Piss off sanctimonious cultists who believe their Cult is above mockery and scrutiny.
They're finally learning. I'm glad there are some vtubers standing up for themselves.
Yup.
The cultists deserve only Mockery and Scorn.
The quicker the Cult gets destroyed, the better society will be.
Vei is the last person who needs to stand up for herself for the things she does.
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
@@EmotionalParaquat714神离天Who on Earth is Meobah?
@@StochasticUniverse Looks like you haven’t heard about *that* drama right
Twitter is the only place where a clip less than 10 seconds can get people trying to cancel you.
Nah, Twitter just streamlines the process.
The Cult these freaks are part of, even if they don't know it, is very old. It was called "ancient" by *greek philsophers like Aristotle or Plato*.
When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness.
Sounds familiar?
Vei: **says "retard"**
Me who is actually autistic: oh, oh ScArY! oh, oh, oh, oh, oh shiver me timbers! 🗿
i didnt even know she said it till this video but it does hurt some other autistic people, as autism is a spectrum lol
@@a_jay7630 i'm not sure if i'm in a "they should just grow a pair" mood or a "ok yeah maybe she should stop trying to be Shadow the Hedgehog" mood... I know i was feeling the former when i posted my original comment and even now that shit lookin kinda 😩
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
@@EmotionalParaquat714神离天 Someone asked if she could say it, and she proved that she can. I'm more distraught about how she called us a fandom.
Autism and retardation are literally not the same thing. It would be like if someone called you a cripple because you're autistic -- doesn't logically follow, no connection.
The shaker got me like "And our sponsor today, raid shadow legends". Thank you Rev. ❤ That sounds nice and I look forward to it's release.
Anyone that makes Twitter users upset is doing a favor to society.
Indeed.
I finally understood what you meant back in the other video, and this video was really clarifying about your feelings towards all this.
It was a mindboggle to me, as a future content creator, that you, as a content creator, married to a content creator, would not "want a child of theirs within 1000 miles of vtubers and the vtubing community.
It's not so much as the actual VTuber community, infact as you mentioned there doesn't seem to be one, as it is about these terminally online people who have no better things to do than to be toxic.
And i have to say, as usual, that i agree with your sentiments and opinion, and Vei there did open my mind about things i thought i had to do (the so called safe language) in order to stream.
Now I don't intend to drop f and r bombs left and right but at least i now know it ain't really so bad if one manages to slip, especially given how i grew up thinking these were cool (esl problems, blame rap music) and it kinda grew in my language.
Thank you.
This whole thing easily got blown way out of proportion.
The cultist freaks operate on the premise of "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult."
They blow everything out of proportion because in their minds every single thing that deviates from cult doctrine is heresy and blasphemy (except they say "bigotry" and "hate speech", because the higher ups don't want the existence of the Cult to be public, and the vast majority of morons don't even know they are in a cult) and therefore demands their full attention, at least until they move on to the next thing, the puritan purge fails, or the priests and heralds ("experts/scholars/professors" and "journalists/influencers" respectively) call them to a different action.
Streisand Effect
So refreshing to see popular content creators being so unapoligetic about the words they use.
How wonderful this world would be if one day twitter was suddenly wiped from existence.
Nothing would change. Just look at the youtube comments on FalseEyeD's video about this matter, all those commenters sucking themselves off about how terrible Veibae is and that they hated her all the time anyway and they themselves are so much more moral and btw did you know Veibae is friends with a transphobe omg wtf how could anybody support her and her fans are just terrible people bla bla bla. Twitter is not really worse than reddit or youtube, it's just easier to make drama out of tweets.
The problem isn't Twitter.
The problem is The Cult.
The Cult is at war with reality itself, and, like all cultists, are a bunch of sanctimonious hipocritical assholes who believe their cult is above mockery and scrutiny.
Until The Cult is dealt a fatal blow and wiped from existence nothing will change, they will just move the next twitter and continue.
And when I say The Cult, I'm not being hyperbolic. The Inquisition was created largely to erradicate this cult and Plato called this cult "ancient".
These twitter freaks are just the latest iteration of the Cult.
The problem is not solely on twitter, it is the user.
I mean the upside of Twitter, or its big redeeming factor is that it has porn. 😂
@@Crazylegoman3791 I guess I was a bit too harsh on Twitter 🤣
Rev saying “The R Word” is killin me man lmao. It sounds so serious like he’s censoring the word RAPE. Which i could understand lol.
Gotta circumvent RUclips algorithmic de-ranking
@@alorem123 Retard isnt a hit word for the algorithm, its just Rev’s personal preference, which I respect. But it makes me cringe because of how serious it sounds lol.
Censoring the word rape makes even less sense. That's just a crime, and if it happens, it needs to be stated as such. Murder is worse than rape, and we've never heard anyone refer to murder as "the m-word", right?
@@StochasticUniverse I 100% agree, but I understand RUclips is the culprit for him having to do that. Since they age restrict thing with rape as a topic. (Which is also stupid) but it is what it is, in the land of the free, home of the double standards with violence vs sex.
the Vtweeters putting up a freaking storm about this are making me turn around on people who were part of Vshojo. they are really helping promote them. also, i love how they keep trying to push that Vei is being immature, like they have any room to talk. the people threatening violence over an untargeted use of a pedestrian "slur" are the ones preaching about growing up.
Yep. Oh, it turns out that some of these people have spines? Now I can respect them more.
Truly retatded behaviour
Never would've thought I'd ever be rooting for Veibae or even Nyannrts
yea twitter has a way of doing that lol
Since when is "retard" even a slur? I always saw it used as an *insult,* but an insult isn't a slur.
Well, every slur is an insult, but not every insult is a slur.
Old words given new definitions type of age today.
It's only a slur when used towards those for whom the word is no longer acceptable (mentally handicapped people). By their logic, "tranny" as shorthand for a car transmission is a "slur".
It's not a slur by itself, but its _actual_ meaning ("to delay or impede the development or progress of" or "to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment") is just one that's easy to use as an insult.
It’s only a slur to over sensitive snowflakes. The “participation award” generation in particular.
i mean, play league of legends for long enough and you'll hear the word enough times to treat it like a friendly greeting xd
It's beginning to feel like a return to the wild west days, of the internet, and I , for one, welcome, it. Respect, to these three women, keep holding the line, never apologize.
Hell yea we riding hooting and tooting again i hope these kids get a life and not take internet seriously
All the respect for women who hold the front line to freedom of speech.
No they’re not really good people
@@xxkankala1671 Better than the perpetually-offended feefees crowd
I am honestly surprised Nyanners has her back...
Props to her for once
Yeah totally.
@@ObeyNoLies In my eyes Nyanners is a bit misunderstood by the Rey fans: Yes, she don't likes Lolicon and yes, she thinks that some lolicon art could make people be interested into RL children (which is of course wrong, when somebody gets attracted to real children when he watches Lolicon he had that attraction in him already, it wasn't just exposed yet). And she took that video down what she didn't liked anymore. But I haven't seen her going after the more lolicon members of VShojo like Nazuna or outside of VShojo. It seems most to me that her opinion is just: "I don't want to deal with that stuff anymore, what you do for yourself I don't care, but please don't bother me anymore". I mean, she also didn't denied her 4chan past - she just said: "I'm grown out of it". That's absolutely ok. Nobody should be forced to always stay on the same thinking all his time. And people get different opinions over time. At least and that's in my eyes the important part: She is not trying to hide her past or like many Twitter Freaks comes with "lolicons are pedophiles" while having lolicon art liked recently. She just says: "It's my past, I prefer to live in the present"
@@acmenipponair She said a lot more than that, she got very vicious calling multiple people PDF files and going on a tear, she had it coming. I think the drama really started when some creep that makes Halo videos starting calling her a PDF file and then said he respects people who look at CP more than lolicons. That's the thing you have to realize my friend, the human mind has a need for this thing called 'congruence', most people can't be one thing and the switch completely to another thing all the time (some can, but they are few in number) most folks eventually justify their behavior. In this case Nyan and the Halo video guy both exposed their own inner dark and then projected it on others. That's the problem, that needs to be called out. Nyanners is an incredibly vicious personality sometimes and people don't need to take her shit. Does she have the capacity to learn and grow up? Of course, but I'm not gonna babysit her until she does.
If you are talking about the Wizard game situation you dont have to make a PR statement to have someone's back
And despite what happen with the end of her Auto mod statement live stream where she broke down about being doxxed,her mom (who mods for her)getting doxxed, and her friends who mod for her getting doxxed in retaliation for blocking and banning...........she still stood up for herself just find and played the game next
She laughed off her moment of weakness with a "Fuck you" to the Twitter Freaks
@@acmenipponair She's not misunderstood, she's well understood that she's a hypocrite no different than the twitter freaks and that's why she's disliked.
She even tried cancelling Nux with that whole drama, which is how we know she hasn't changed, its just that now she just knows that she can't FA or she'll FO.
One crucial difference between getting the r-word online and saying it in front of someone's face irl, is that irl you can't really turn away from someone saying that. But online, you have a choice to easily avoid people like that.
What I find most amusing are the children telling others they need to 'grow up' as if they are some how mature adults by being offended over a word.
it's because they think they're so mature that we all know they really aren't. Only when they realize they still have a long way to go will they have truly gained maturity.
@@randomperson8375 Isn't that exactly the trade of kids and young people - that they believe they are sooooo mature - but in reality, they aren't but just children and have to learn much. For example to NOT get offended over some words.
There is nothing wrong with the word. 30 years ago it was the word that those same exact type of people were pushing. I am 50. My woke school teachers told us to use that word. Now it's a slur?
What I can't believe is that there are people my age who go along with this nonsense. They have lived long enough to see the blatant nonsense and hypocrisy. They just don't care. I don't blame the young people. They don't know any better.
Probably the new IDubbbz fans who know dick all about growing and maturing.
@@acmenipponair
Nah when I was a kid, I thought i knew everything but I still listened to those with credentials/experience
Kids these days are in some fantasy land of their own making, and until recently, they have lived in an echo chamber
Thats changing it seems
Hearing them mocking the freaks is like music to my ears and brings a tear to my eyes, much respect to Vei, Silver and Nyanners keep strong!
These people would try to find where they live, but then realize their lives would be empty without anyone to complain about, cause they have lack of motivation to have their own goals that doesn't involve negativity.
It's a Cult. And a very old one.
When Richard Hooker tried to debate the cultists in the 1500s he found out he couldnt. They would reject debating, destroy logic with irrationality, throw insults and selectively quote to suit their agenda while dismissing anything that contradicted it, them, or proved that they are a bunch of hipocritical assholes. All while being sanctimonious holier-than-thou puritans who presented themselves as beacons of "morality" with zero self-awareness.
Sounds familiar?
Finally people are fighting back against the Twitter freaks..it is so refreshing after everything that has happened so far.
People have finally had enough of woke supremacy, look at what's happened to AB InBev. It's a silent boycott in my area, but it's still evident.
Tell me your existence is devoid of meaning, without telling me your existence is devoid of meaning.
Remember everyone: "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." The amount of times we've seen people freak out and clearly not take that saying as helpful advice is truly baffling.
Cause half of the world got told that "words hurt". Especially during that cyber bullying peak in like the 2000s.
It's faux outrage. Mock anger because they want to be seen as edgy or cool and appealing to other cool edgelords. In Elara's case it seems to needing to get laid really bad but being such a shut-in the opportunity never comes up. Most of these female streamers do just need a dick to cure their insanity, and most of their male simps just need to have their jimmies rustled. You can tell which ones have been laid because those are the fully adults and those who haven't are desperate trying to appeal to everyone in hopes that someone will somehow break through their intense self-isolating behavior to cure their underlying mental condition of blue balls. Veibae, Silvervale, and Nyanners, as well as every other based VTubers including Strawb and Rev (obviously) are sane because they've made that physical connection with someone else and cured the insane. For politicians that push this insanity they know how desperate virgins and celibates are to get laid by a real person and push messages to either keep them from meeting OR end such relations to create more miserable, lonely, desperate people. Look at any political extremist / hardliner; if they're not in office pushing this rhetoric, they've not been laid in forever or ever and are repeating memes in desperation. Such as "Retard is a slur! OMG VEIBAE IS THE WORST! Come to my safe space and (please date me)"
This whole Twitter drama can summed up as "Dont like it it Dont watch it"
Now try to get a cultist who believes wholeheartedly in "All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult" to understand that simple concept.
Lol this gives me a horrific idea. Thanks Rev. 🌻
Twitter really melting down over a word that has existed for years. Well, it is offensive but it's still funny to see them mald
But it wasn't offensive less than a generation ago. I'm Gen X we used it all the time and it had a clinical meaning before that. It's still used in baking. Lol 😆
@steelfallageek in 2012 the word was just used for stupid but ig people have glass feeling now
It's not offensive at all.
ehh it depends I say it all the time but I would never use towards someone with an actual mental disability and this is coming from a dude that has OCD
@@Danny-mp8dq I have ADHD and I’ve been told it all the time. Granted it was by my older brother and not a complete stranger. I didn’t think much of it, I just thought it was playful banter.
These the same people that send death threats in dms. "Rules for thee and not for me".
Tards continue to spreg out.
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
"The Speds are coming!!!"
'Heh
Never go full tard.
Broadly agree with your sentiments in this video. I want to point out one part that I feel is a slippery slope: 3:52
> "this 100 follower account is going to gatekeep who's allowed in the vtuber community"
I don't believe follower count is a valid detail to point out when making this statement. No user, no matter their follower count, should feel they're entitled to gatekeep the entire VTuber ecosystem. A user account arguably has the authority to say what their own follower community's culture should be like and certainly has authority over what their posted content should be like. Thank you for broadcasting the word that it's a mistake to believe authority over one's follower community can be extended to everyone else's content and communities. Of course, it's another story if it's an admin account representing the interests of the entity that's hosting and maintaining the hardware that runs the platform.
Twitter implodes when "slurs" are said fr
Rev to be really honest...You're a great role model. When I get children in the future (from a playground preferably), I will definitely let them watch your videos all day, in hopes to create some common sense and decency in them. Thank you for uploading 🤤
He’s isn’t supposed to be anyone’s role model.
@@oriongear2499 No you're wrong. The moment I saw that cute loli model, I knew that he would be the perfect parental figure for my/our children. Can't you see...this is perfection😍
@@oriongear2499 Better role model than 100% of the teaching industry nowadays that loves shoving inappropriate garbage down kids throats.... and fondle'em too
I think you should know that this is the (almost) same word that Meobah used and caused an outrage
@@idfc922 i’m kind of concerned
good on silvervale, but as for nyanners no matter how much she tries to be based, as long as she shits on loli she will always be cringe
It even adds a bit of irony when one realizes she used to do loli song covers
@@datboi8357 Yep
@@datboi8357 Crazy how that makes it worst
@@datboi8357she even times you out in chat if you so much as make subtle references to Pomf Pomf Pomf, not even out of malice but because that’s how you first heard of her and thought her cover was funny.
Personally all 3 sucks
Thanks for the video, imma start watching nyan and vei again. Keep up the good work!
I think every form of twitter drama needs to be fought in a meme battle now
The Cult the freaks are part of must be fought at all times.
The fact that 'retarded' is considered a slur now is hilarious. That word has been used commonly pre-2015 as a harsher version of the word 'stupid'. Even if someone got offended, no one cared at that time because the internet is not your safe space and it never will. We need more brave edgelords who just wanna have fun.
The reason Veibae truly doesn't give a shit is because she uses this term a lot. It's part of her daily vocabulary. The fact that they don't know that and is sperging out about a single time use just shows they don't watch her anyway and are not part of her viewer base. They're, once again, being outraged over what someone they don't even watch is doing. It's so fucking mentally ill.
I'm reminded of a t shirt I got that has Vegeta on it that says "are you so weak that mere words hurt you?"
I'm still on the fence about Silver (not because of Hogwarts but because of some earlier stuff?) and Nyanners over her loli comments, but a step towards not giving in to Twitter's collective insanity is a good step. At least we know they're not completely brainwashed. And I'm glad to know people like Vei still exist out there.
What did silver do
@@ninjapirate1721 she was being a dick in the nux situation
Nux is also a dick, but still didn't deserve that
@@blooocki Didnt Nux do some fucked shit?
Damn everybody sucks
@@blooocki who cares they all moved on past it, why keep beating up a dead horse by bringing it up?
Omg your friend said this and that you should call them out.
“ lol no they can say whatever they want “ based
Her (Vei) reputation is on the line alright. It's gonna give her even more people to watch her.
I like how Rev says it like it is. Let's go champ!
Retard is an insult, not a slur. "Impressionable people." The people watching V-Tubers are adults. They are not kids. They make their own decisions. Nice work on the insults, twitter. Maybe I should start saying Impressionable People is a slur.
Well it is a slur depending on how it is used. Hate speech on people with disabilities mate. Just like F-word for homosexuals and N-word for black people.
Saying "retard" isn't a insult. Calling someone a "retard" is however.
As a rtard i don't care how much you use that word so long as you don't harass actual disabled people with that word.
Silvervale with the based take out of nowhere. She knows what it's like to deal with Twitter users.
thank you for showing their names
Anything that makes Twitter users mad is worth celebrating. Also, be patient with them, they're clearly severely rhubarbed. 🤣
This just told me "go watch Veibae, as often as you can", and I'll be there, when I can I'll sub, I'll be supporting from now and onwards.
Shout-out to Veibae for standing her grown and I'm also very glad to here that Nyanners and Silvervale stuck up for her as well. Veibae has said some things that annoyed me in the past but then again I can't really name anyone who hasn't. Overall I like her a lot. She's cool.
A safe space is one where people can express themselves freely without fear of attack.
Preach.
Twitter went full r-word, never go full R-word XD
Is there even really such as thing as a "VTuber Community"?...Seem more to me like a collection of faction communities that just happen to be centered around the genre...As is typically the case with "communities" from what I've often seen.
I would really love to think that this may be a turning point in the "culture war", maybe some common sense coming back into fashion...But at the same time it also just feels like the polar extremes are just becoming more divided, and there's no middle ground on anything anymore...I donno.
Absolutely not. The larger culture war only continues, unabated, from here. I honestly wonder if the United States will be able to continue as a unified country or if we will have a civil war at some point in the not-inconceivably-distant future, and I don't say that lightly.
@@StochasticUniverse A "war" I doubt. a type of civil collapse, that's ultimately replaced with something else?...Maybe...Ultimately though, the more likely, and less dramatic, outcome will just be a generational reset. The older gen will grow old and die out angry and resentful(As per the norm.) of the new younger gen, which will start up their own fresh take on the viscous cycle of social unrest.
"why are you not offended by a word? You need to grow up!" the whole situation in a nutshell
You gotta hand it to them, only Twitter could actually make Rev and others, who've had issues with these 3, take their side in any way
That person actually said it best she "hurt peoples feelings". Poor kids.
And Vei is just telling them what they always say "Dont like? Dont watch it."
It's a Cult of Comfort
Veibae: **Goes indie**
Twitter: **Gets offended**
Veibae: You have no power here!
You love to see it.
I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts this observation. I honestly find it odd creators make any kind of response anymore if they don’t think they made a mistake. Some of the most vile pedos and other similar degenerates, as well as good upstanding morally sound creators have proven time and time again that no matter how big something could be, you can take the wind out of the problems sails by literally pretending nothing happened. Irrelevant of whether or not it’s deserved has never changed the ultimate strategy of simply pretending nothing happened.
If you want it to go away you can just ignore it, if you want free publicity/money you can respond and even amplify it. These are the holy commandments that have existed since the moment you could earn money from ads on RUclips.
Edit: Vei, like Nyanners, is an attention whore, of course she's going to respond when there are several people like Rev that are going to talk about it and vicariously bring in new or returning viewers, it's just how publicity works.
You know what would be sooo funny? If Vei, Silver and nyanners all went live and played Hogwarts Legacy at the same time just to trigger twitter freaks even more, that would be freakin hilarious 🤣🤣
Does the game actually have multiplayer?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And then Nyanners sings the- oh wait nvm Twitch banned karaokes.
sings the what? 👀
@@suhnih4076i see karaoke streams all the time on twitch
I don't know why but Veibae's responses had me cracking up, I wish she streamed on too, cause I would most def watch.
Honestly this is nothing but bait for free advertisement, she does not care about criticism, she cares about the eyes she's getting
And I respect that
??? I’m so confused on how we’re just skipping over the fact that she said a slur and then doubled down
i never understood why 'retard' is considered a slur
Congrats on the shaker!!
"it's sad when content creators alienate a large part of the community" - crazy twittard
im pretty sure that community is very small, very hated and everyone is kind of sick off
Wait! We're going over THAT again? As a kid of the 90's I thought we were past all that. WTF happened in the last couple years?
PC culture is being resurrected by the Zoomer generation. I guess they were sad they weren't alive for its first incarntion so they brought it back, heh.
Unlike some people trying to cancel them, all imma say is that its disrespectful of them to use that word and I don't respect them for doubling down. Its not that the word bothers me but It bothers others and is harmful for some people (Not the ones making a fuss but the ones who are actually affected by that word.) So unlike others who did their tweets calling them out. I just blocked them and no longer respect them. (Not like I ever had respect for veibae lol, but silver kinda shocked me not gonna lie, nyanners was expected.) But yeah people who go as far as to dox or try to bully, harass and ban them from platforms because "They don't belong in the Vtuber community" are full of it. Don't like it? Block and move on. Simple... but I get some are hurt because they liked them until these events but they'll get over it. I hope. Anyways love you rev, keep making awesome videos and you have a good day my guy! ;)
Wow an actual level headed response good job 👍
@@ninjapirate1721 Life goes on, and besides its not like they commited a crime. (Like actual predators, not lolicons obviously since I'm a rev viewer lol) But yeah used the word before and stopped when people started making it a big deal... but also because of people I know and respect that have been called that for their condition in the past. But I'll never go and tell someone that they're a bad person for using it, I'll warn them that some people won't take kindly to the usage of that word. I just worry about people getting into trouble is all.
im not even suprised twitter is twitter but from just googling how much drama is involved with those 3 i can imagine dat drama follows them
These people are probably the ones who wondered why people aren't enjoying the terrible modern American comics and moving to manga
What wrong with comics. Are u one of those everything is “woke” guys
@@ninjapirate1721 numbers don't lie
@@ninjapirate1721 if not wanting character to boil down to flanderized versions of what they are supposed to be, their genitalia being literally all they have, having fat heroes that make no sense in existing or terribly done self inserts is being afraid of "woke" then i am
@@ninjapirate1721 A lot is, considering that they're being totally out-competed by manga at this point. I never thought I'd see D.C. and Marvel in such a state, but look at the statistics.
@@crowe6961 I don’t care about that. If I wanna read something imma read it. Not just because everyone says it is.
I dont know much about Veibae but well I dislike both Nyanners and Silvervale(less the latter) but it comes to me as a shock that they were the ones to defend Veibae given that their communities are safe spaces of sort
Safe spaces 'of sort' ?
These people got too used to complaints about Veibae being a one way interaction since she part of an organization. The gloves are off now. She's full indie now and can clap back at anyone who gets a little too big for their britches, and she has the numbers and support to ratio pretty much any VTweeter out there.
I so much would like to see the responds to these tweets. Like, imagine the hundreds and thousands of avarage vtuber enjoyers just simply responding gtfo to these tweets.
Sadly, it isn't usually like that, because the enjoyers are people of positivity and they don't usually waste their time to do stuff like that. It's the same reason why there's a known negativity bias in things like Yelp reviews. Unhappy people live to bitch, and happy customers just shrug and go on about their lives. I worked for a major retailer once and the company did internal research that concluded that an unhappy customer was 13x more likely to leave a bad review than a happy customer was likely to leave a good review.
Man this whole "slur" drama is hilarious.
Right? 😂😂😂😂 just turn off twitter and these people disappear
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It's funny how they always say "Grow up."
There's only one group of people who are constantly concerned with acting like adults. Children.
"if my dad was this soft i would wish i was aborted" **wheeze** 😂
I second that.
I'd reduce his allowance, he is more like a pre pubescent kid seething and throwing a fit
"Look at this White paper, so clean, so perfect, and what if we drop a little, jut a little, nod of Ink on there, now everyone thinks the Paper is ugly and dirty"