I've waited two decades for this video. Many, many thanks. Visual learners like me struggle with printed instructions only. I bought the Elskus book long ago, and it will now resonate so much clearer after having watched your very excellent tutorial.
Wow! You’ve made my day Jennifer 🙂 So pleased you found value in the video. Please keep in touch and tell me how you progress with your painting journey 👏👏👏
All your videos are very useful, but this one is especially useful! I always look forward to your new lessons, as a beginner they help me a lot! Thanks to your videos I fell in love with stained glass painting. I even bought myself a small kiln!)) My dream is to make my first stained glass with painting, but I have not found a suitable sketch yet, because I am not an artist). I really like medieval stained glass, rondelles with silver stain. Thank you for my new hobby!)
Exceptional. Some questions though : 1) I test the tin side by the water dropplet test (surface tension ). Remarks ? 2) didn’t see clearly which compound you use for your staining . Glycol ?
Hi, thanks for your reply. Regarding kilns, have a look at secondhand ones on Facebook marketplace, or some of the stained glass groups, as they often come up for sale. If you want to buy a new one, check out the Kilncare hobbyfuser range of kilns. I have a Kilncare and they are great ( made in the UK). Their web site is www.kilncare.com/hobbyfuser
Just to clarify firing times. Let kiln heat up to 620C and hold at that temperature for 2 minutes, then switch off the kiln to get the best results using a gas kiln.
Hi David, I generally give the brushes a really good clean in warm water only. Silver stain is very corrosive. Unfortunately there is no alternative to a kiln. You may be able to find a second hand ceramic kiln on eBay at an affordable price, or perhaps rent one from a local potter or college. Best of luck, Derek
Thank you Derek, you are a gem! The information in this video is so useful. I wasn't particularly interested in silver stain before - I'm not a big fan of yellow 😉 - but it's definitely on my list of techniques to try now. We're so lucky to have you sharing this information with us. 👏 👏 👏
Hi Derek, thank you so much for your informative videos. I’m new to all this and wanted to ask you about some technical information on how the paints you use bond with the glass? What is the difference in the pigments you purchase vs regular pigments ? Also the use of the kiln. After fired can anything be removed? How durable is the finish? Sorry for all the questions!
The glass paints are made of ceramic pigments which need heat in order to bond with the glass at high temperatures. Once fired the paint is permanent and will not fade, unlike regular acrylic or oil paints which are not light fast and will fade and peel over time from the glass surface.
Thanks once again Derek , always a joy to watch........ I've used a water based silk screen medium to suspend the silver stain with OK results...It might be worth mentioning to people who are new to painting , the reason we silver stain on the back of painted pieces......? I'll give the propylene glycol a go , that was new to me...cheers mi dears, best wishes, Mark
Hi Mark, yes you’re right about mentioning why to paint on the back to keep the silver stain from getting contaminated by the paint. To be honest this was getting quite a long video so didn’t cover everything. I also used screen printing medium in the past ( pine oil I think ) with good results. Hope you’re doing well , and best wishes as always, D 🙂
I fully understand, there is so much information approaches, details and techniques to cram in !!!! maybe another video !!!! Until next time, take care, keep 'em coming .M
That is such a great video on silver stain. Thank you so much Derek. I share your videos with my adult education glass classes, and they also find them really inspiring and accessible. I never knew what a difference the tin or non tin side of float glass made. And, I realise I often apply way too thick! Always learning.
Great video Derek, very informative. I occasionally have to replace a damaged glass piece in a Victoria stained glass window. The painting bit I'm happy with but I have loads of trouble using silver stain on green glass. I would appreciate it you could share some of your vast knowledge. Thanks, Pete
Hi Derek. Love the channel and content. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Just wondering if you had plans to cover flooding as a topic?. I always seem to get cracking or a delineation between the line work and flooded area. Thanks 🙏
That's the plan! There are lots of very specific things in painting which I will address in a more in-depth tutorial which will be available as an online course. 🙂
I'm looking to store mixed paints and stains. Think the propylene glycol will hold for potentially extended periods of time? or would it just be better to mix when i plan to use them?
I usually just put the wet stain straight into the kiln face up, however I've heard other artist say that leaving the stain overnight before firing helps it to work better, however I've not tried that. Hope that helps :-)
Thanks for this Derek- very helpful. Do you fire your silver stain with the stain side up, or down, or does it not matter? Does it make a difference if the stain has been mixed with water or glycol / oil as to which side us uppermost when firing? ( I was told that firing it with the stain side up can contaminate the kiln, but perhaps less so depending on the mixing medium?) And also when doing double staining, do you paint on one side, fire and then repaint the same side, or paint the other side to get the darker effect. Thanks!
Hi Kate, regarding stain, I fire it up side so it doesn’t contaminate the kiln shelf. When adding extra stain, I fire it once then apply more stain to the same side and fire a second time. Hope that helps, best wishes Derek
Aside from my Query below I ( Terrible California Manners) forgot to THANK YOU for this particular video among your others. I feel like an idiot. Never paid attention to the word “ stained” in Stained Glass. It made me think of a U friend who pieces glass. I “assumed “ the glass was colored in manufacture. Never occurred to me to ask HOW the pigmented glass was made. I loved the look but me & cutting glass ? NOT a good combo. Now I can not only investigate art I might make, I Will somehow learn how to attain the colored large window I want to do that must be right when finished. It’s not just decor; it’s a happy Memorial that contains elements in geometric & free style drawing that were such a part of my life with my late husband. The room is one wall of vinyl records, a pull out settee bed for guests, a lava lamp & posters on the walls from the Beatles at Shea Stadium to John Steinbeck, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, Bobby Kennedy & Eleanor Roosevelt. It’s not a “shrine”. It’s the music room I promised him that I’ll enjoy with family & friends. The one large ( HUD ESCAPE WINDOW) will be painted by me when I’m able to do the relatively straightforward geo design he would have loved. A painter at heart if not for support, I have his best up & they ALL are made up of geometric shapes, some obvious, some hidden within a portrait. So glad I found a place & recommended books to learn before rushing into something I’ll regret! You’re obviously a person whose time is Valuable so many thanks for sharing it without cost! Maggie E
I use a gas kiln for stain work as it’s more controllable and quicker than electric. Hoaf Kilns are really great. See this discussion link www.americanglassguild.com/forum67/2420.html
I have just happened upon this channel and it is fascinating. I love stained glass but am extremely novice having attened only a weekend course where we made a 12 piece sun catcher from design to finish. I have a very small window in my front door (8" x 11") which I want to replace with painted glass which, being in the front door will be toughened. I have bought ready mixed Pebeo Vitrea 160 which you bake so that it is weatherproof. Do you know if Pebeo will work and will a painted glass door light look silly as I think it too small for trad leaded and I am not skilled enough anyway. Any advice would be greatly appreciated (from anyone. reading this)
Hi Kim, yes transparent yellow enamel will work. In fact, when I’ve had projects made for me in Germany by Derix studios, they use yellow enamel more often than stain. I believe it’s more cost effective on a large scale. 🙂
Hi Patrick, I use the really small ones from Amazon. The bigger jars means you have to fill them up with more paint in order to dip the pen in. I tend to make small batches of paint at a time, as it lasts for ages in the air right jars. 🙂
Query: Is it possible to paint silver stain onto a glass window that obviously cannot go into a kiln. I have two windows that I want to make patterns on & I’m researching. I don’t want to use children’s acrylic used for cute little craft pieces of “stained glass”. I do draw well & I want to have the most authentic stained glass possible on an existing window & glass door.
The only thing I can suggest is to cut coloured vinyl into the shapes you want and stick that to the window. If you contact a local sign maker they might be about to computer cut the shapes needed in transparent vinyl for you.
@@DerekHuntArtistThank you so much for your prompt reply. After viewing more videos, I think I’m going to practice glass painting perhaps with a different type paint. You’ve given me some ideas about things I would never have thought of; the photo of the girl. It occurred to me if there’s enough room to easily open window ( I didn’t have the best builders), I could add the glass or simply replace the window with mine. Sounds crazy, no? But your inspiring videos are leading SOMEWHERE. There are a pile of small canvases in my husband’s art box. Between our two boxes, I have oil, acrylic & watercolor & pens. I think I should walk before running. I do draw well or I DID. So just using those 8 x 10 canvases , new ideas may arise. And hey, I can’t sing well anymore & singing always made me happy. Getting out John’s easel & practicing may very well do the same. It’s great to be looking ahead. 👩🏽🦰😺😺💁🏾♀️🎨
@@ikust007 hahaha! Well, most of the time I just mix my paints or my stains with water. No gum arabic is needed in the silver stain. I'm not all that keen on the smell of vinegar, so don't use that as much as water. I only use glycol if I want to achieve a special blended effect of the stain. Hope that helps! 🙂
Brilliant informative video. Thankyou Derek. Lots of great tips and techniques. I love painting on glass and have been very tentative when it comes to using silverstein , will splash out ! from now on.
Holy cow, that large a jar of silver stain must have cost a fortune! Great video though, my results with silver stain have been inconsistent at best and I really need to block out some time and just do enough test panels to get a feel for how the variables affect outcomes. The cost of enough stain to do that, though...it's daunting at best.
@@DerekHuntArtist - I'm ordering the Kenneth Leap book, it looks like it has dozens of test firing samples and that will be a nice way to get the info from somebody who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks for leafing through it in your video so that I could get an idea what it contains.
You can use glycol as a mixing medium with silver stain. Just let the mixure sit for at least 24 hours before using or it might be too oily to paint with 🙂
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Welcome!😀
I attempted to teach myself 25 years ago with the aid of Elskis book. Some success but watching your videos is amazing
So good to know you find my tutorial helpful!🙏🙂
I've waited two decades for this video. Many, many thanks. Visual learners like me struggle with printed instructions only. I bought the Elskus book long ago, and it will now resonate so much clearer after having watched your very excellent tutorial.
Wow! You’ve made my day Jennifer 🙂 So pleased you found value in the video. Please keep in touch and tell me how you progress with your painting journey 👏👏👏
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Thank you for your support!🙏🙂
@@DerekHuntArtist gracias a ti por contestar y por el corazón! Te admiro y te amo por lo que nos ofreces! Eres grande!!! Como artista y maestro!
All your videos are very useful, but this one is especially useful! I always look forward to your new lessons, as a beginner they help me a lot! Thanks to your videos I fell in love with stained glass painting. I even bought myself a small kiln!)) My dream is to make my first stained glass with painting, but I have not found a suitable sketch yet, because I am not an artist). I really like medieval stained glass, rondelles with silver stain. Thank you for my new hobby!)
@@soul963You thank you so much for your support! I means the world to me and helps my channel make more tutorials for the creators out there!🙏🙂
Wonderful presentation. The Albinas Elskus book is quintessential for all glass painters. Thank you Professor Derek!
Thank you Jason !
Exceptional. Some questions though :
1) I test the tin side by the water dropplet test (surface tension ). Remarks ?
2) didn’t see clearly which compound you use for your staining . Glycol ?
VERY good!
Thank you
Patricia
You’re very welcome 🙏🙂
Thank you Derek, fantastic content as usual, could you recommend a small kiln suitable for home use, uk based. Thank you
Hi, thanks for your reply. Regarding kilns, have a look at secondhand ones on Facebook marketplace, or some of the stained glass groups, as they often come up for sale. If you want to buy a new one, check out the Kilncare hobbyfuser range of kilns. I have a Kilncare and they are great ( made in the UK). Their web site is www.kilncare.com/hobbyfuser
@@DerekHuntArtist Thank you Derek, will keep an eye on FB market, thank you
@@welshartnow good luck!
Your video make my sunday more happy! Wonderfull work!
Hahaha! Awesome !🔥🔥🔥🔥🙂
Really, a great comprehensive video with so many interesting sections and suggestions.
Awesome! Great to hear you found it all helpful 🙂
Just to clarify firing times. Let kiln heat up to 620C and hold at that temperature for 2 minutes, then switch off the kiln to get the best results using a gas kiln.
Thank you so much for sharing this Derek
Hi Derek
Did you say how to clean the brushes?
Also, I could never afford a kiln
Is there any other way?
Thank you
Patricia
Hi David, I generally give the brushes a really good clean in warm water only. Silver stain is very corrosive. Unfortunately there is no alternative to a kiln. You may be able to find a second hand ceramic kiln on eBay at an affordable price, or perhaps rent one from a local potter or college. Best of luck, Derek
Thank you Derek, you are a gem! The information in this video is so useful. I wasn't particularly interested in silver stain before - I'm not a big fan of yellow 😉 - but it's definitely on my list of techniques to try now. We're so lucky to have you sharing this information with us. 👏 👏 👏
Hi Karen, that’s awesome! Great you hear you found it valuable 🙂🙏
Excellent!!! Great tutorial!
thank you !
Thanks for another great video Derek. I'm learning so much.
Really glad Jo :)
Hi Derek, thank you for the video! Is it possible to save mixed silver stain in a sealed container if I mix a large batch?
Yes, you can save your unused silver stain in a container. It may dry out but will come back to life when you add a mixing medium to it again. 🙂
What a good video a great refresher.
Glad you enjoyed it!🙏🙂
excellent, thanks for sharing that. can't wait to try some of these things you've been sharing.
Awesome!
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Wow! You are amazingly good! Thank you!
Hey Sonia, really pleased you liked the video🙂🙏
Wow I've been in Ely cathedral and did not see the museum. I will have to go back, I am fascinated cant wait to use silver stain
Turn left when you enter the cathedral and you’ll see a door with the museum sign. The museum is on the first floor up some stairs 👍🏼🙂
I have subscribed and so excited to learn all about painting on glass!
For example putting veins on a stained glass leaf😄
Thank you!
Patricia
Welcome on board Patricia 🙂
Great information , thank you ! I lived in Cambridge for couple of months but haven’t seen Ely church :(
Ely Cathedral is amazing !🙂
Thank you derek, All the tips in this video was very useful , also make a video on what temperature to fire this stained.
Yellow stain is fired at 620 centigrade for 2 minutes :)
Wow -Thank you so much for sharing this Derek- I have always wondered how this was done
Great to hear this is of value to you Ernest 🙂
Brilliant.
Subscribed
Hi Derek, thank you so much for your informative videos. I’m new to all this and wanted to ask you about some technical information on how the paints you use bond with the glass? What is the difference in the pigments you purchase vs regular pigments ? Also the use of the kiln. After fired can anything be removed? How durable is the finish? Sorry for all the questions!
The glass paints are made of ceramic pigments which need heat in order to bond with the glass at high temperatures. Once fired the paint is permanent and will not fade, unlike regular acrylic or oil paints which are not light fast and will fade and peel over time from the glass surface.
Thanks once again Derek , always a joy to watch........ I've used a water based silk screen medium to suspend the silver stain with OK results...It might be worth mentioning to people who are new to painting , the reason we silver stain on the back of painted pieces......? I'll give the propylene glycol a go , that was new to me...cheers mi dears, best wishes, Mark
Hi Mark, yes you’re right about mentioning why to paint on the back to keep the silver stain from getting contaminated by the paint. To be honest this was getting quite a long video so didn’t cover everything. I also used screen printing medium in the past ( pine oil I think ) with good results. Hope you’re doing well , and best wishes as always, D 🙂
I fully understand, there is so much information approaches, details and techniques to cram in !!!! maybe another video !!!! Until next time, take care, keep 'em coming .M
That is such a great video on silver stain. Thank you so much Derek. I share your videos with my adult education glass classes, and they also find them really inspiring and accessible. I never knew what a difference the tin or non tin side of float glass made. And, I realise I often apply way too thick! Always learning.
Fantastic that you can share the vids with your students too! Thank you Jane 🙏🙂
Brilliant!
Thank you ! Glad it was helpful Alena 🙏🙂
Great video Derek, very informative. I occasionally have to replace a damaged glass piece in a Victoria stained glass window. The painting bit I'm happy with but I have loads of trouble using silver stain on green glass. I would appreciate it you could share some of your vast knowledge.
Thanks, Pete
Hi Pete, do have a look at my video on yellow stain as it takes you through my methods of application and firing. 🙂
15:56 just super posing both is sublime as a design !
Hi Derek. Love the channel and content. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Just wondering if you had plans to cover flooding as a topic?. I always seem to get cracking or a delineation between the line work and flooded area. Thanks 🙏
That's the plan! There are lots of very specific things in painting which I will address in a more in-depth tutorial which will be available as an online course. 🙂
@@DerekHuntArtist Brilliant, I look forward to it 😀.
I'm looking to store mixed paints and stains. Think the propylene glycol will hold for potentially extended periods of time? or would it just be better to mix when i plan to use them?
Hi Derek. Do you need to let the stain + glycol mix dry before firing? Thanks for all these useful videos.
I usually just put the wet stain straight into the kiln face up, however I've heard other artist say that leaving the stain overnight before firing helps it to work better, however I've not tried that. Hope that helps :-)
15:02 yeah I have exactly that !
Thanks for this Derek- very helpful. Do you fire your silver stain with the stain side up, or down, or does it not matter? Does it make a difference if the stain has been mixed with water or glycol / oil as to which side us uppermost when firing? ( I was told that firing it with the stain side up can contaminate the kiln, but perhaps less so depending on the mixing medium?)
And also when doing double staining, do you paint on one side, fire and then repaint the same side, or paint the other side to get the darker effect. Thanks!
Hi Kate, regarding stain, I fire it up side so it doesn’t contaminate the kiln shelf. When adding extra stain, I fire it once then apply more stain to the same side and fire a second time. Hope that helps, best wishes Derek
Aside from my Query below I ( Terrible California Manners) forgot to THANK YOU for this particular video among your others. I feel like an idiot. Never paid attention to the word “ stained” in Stained Glass. It made me think of a U friend who pieces glass. I “assumed “ the glass was colored in manufacture. Never occurred to me to ask HOW the pigmented glass was made. I loved the look but me & cutting glass ? NOT a good combo. Now I can not only investigate art I might make, I Will somehow learn how to attain the colored large window I want to do that must be right when finished. It’s not just decor; it’s a happy Memorial that contains elements in geometric & free style drawing that were such a part of my life with my late husband. The room is one wall of vinyl records, a pull out settee bed for guests, a lava lamp & posters on the walls from the Beatles at Shea Stadium to John Steinbeck, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, Bobby Kennedy & Eleanor Roosevelt. It’s not a “shrine”. It’s the music room I promised him that I’ll enjoy with family & friends. The one large ( HUD ESCAPE WINDOW) will be painted by me when I’m able to do the relatively straightforward geo design he would have loved. A painter at heart if not for support, I have his best up & they ALL are made up of geometric shapes, some obvious, some hidden within a portrait. So glad I found a place & recommended books to learn before rushing into something I’ll regret! You’re obviously a person whose time is Valuable so many thanks for sharing it without cost! Maggie E
You’re welcome Margawyn 🙏🙂
Derek Can you advise on what type of Kiln you use- I know they are pricey but I am determined to have one
I use a gas kiln for stain work as it’s more controllable and quicker than electric. Hoaf Kilns are really great. See this discussion link www.americanglassguild.com/forum67/2420.html
I have just happened upon this channel and it is fascinating. I love stained glass but am extremely novice having attened only a weekend course where we made a 12 piece sun catcher from design to finish. I have a very small window in my front door (8" x 11") which I want to replace with painted glass which, being in the front door will be toughened. I have bought ready mixed Pebeo Vitrea 160 which you bake so that it is weatherproof. Do you know if Pebeo will work and will a painted glass door light look silly as I think it too small for trad leaded and I am not skilled enough anyway. Any advice would be greatly appreciated (from anyone. reading this)
Hi Emma, thanks for your support. Unfortunately I’m not familiar with the product you mentioned so can’t advise. 🤷♂️
Derek, just out of curiosity, what size is your glass muller? Thanks in advance!
It’s about 100mm diameter I think 🙂
Hi Derek, would transparent yellow enamel, give you a similiar look to Yellow stain? kind regards Kim
Hi Kim, yes transparent yellow enamel will work. In fact, when I’ve had projects made for me in Germany by Derix studios, they use yellow enamel more often than stain. I believe it’s more cost effective on a large scale. 🙂
Oh thankyou very much for that info!! It is absolutely cost effective, great news Derek 🙋♀️
@@DerekHuntArtist thanks so much for your informative reply..!!
You’re welcome 🙏🙂
Hi Derek - did you fire the glass face down or face up and does it affect the stain?
Hi Warren, I fire the silver stain face up so it doesn't contaminate the kiln bed:)
If using silver stain as background color can you paint over it after firing with the the enamels
Yes I think you can, as long as you fire the silver stain first then clean the glass, you should be able to then apply an enamel layer after that .
Thank you for your advise
Hi what size mason jars do you use when you’re using your dip pens
Hi Patrick, I use the really small ones from Amazon. The bigger jars means you have to fill them up with more paint in order to dip the pen in. I tend to make small batches of paint at a time, as it lasts for ages in the air right jars. 🙂
Have you ever used these stains with glassblowing? Im interested to know how they hold up to the extreme heat?
I think the temperature will be too high. Yellow stained fires at around 620 degrees centigrade- which is a lot lower than molten glass
Please is it possible to mix silver stain same as iron oxide with gum Arabic?
Silver stain doesn't need gum arabic as it already has gamboge gum added during the manufacturing process.
@DerekHuntArtist thank you very much for your reply. I used just water, it worked beautifully
@@otilston8730 awesome!
Query: Is it possible to paint silver stain onto a glass window that obviously cannot go into a kiln. I have two windows that I want to make patterns on & I’m researching. I don’t want to use children’s acrylic used for cute little craft pieces of “stained glass”. I do draw well & I want to have the most authentic stained glass possible on an existing window & glass door.
The only thing I can suggest is to cut coloured vinyl into the shapes you want and stick that to the window. If you contact a local sign maker they might be about to computer cut the shapes needed in transparent vinyl for you.
@@DerekHuntArtistThank you so much for your prompt reply.
After viewing more videos, I think I’m going to practice glass painting perhaps with a different type paint. You’ve given me some ideas about things I would never have thought of; the photo of the girl. It occurred to me if there’s enough room to easily open window ( I didn’t have the best builders), I could add the glass or simply replace the window with mine. Sounds crazy, no?
But your inspiring videos are leading SOMEWHERE. There are a pile of small canvases in my husband’s art box. Between our two boxes, I have oil, acrylic & watercolor & pens. I think I should walk before running. I do draw well or I DID. So just using those 8 x 10 canvases , new ideas may arise. And hey, I can’t sing well anymore & singing always made me happy. Getting out John’s easel & practicing may very well do the same. It’s great to be looking ahead. 👩🏽🦰😺😺💁🏾♀️🎨
@Margawyn Evans 😀👍
❤🙏😊thank you..
You’re very welcome Nilay🙏🙂
My thesis can I write your working?master I'm a Ceramic glass Artist and designer..😊
@@Roblox.comeee Sure, I am happy to help where I can 🙂
@@DerekHuntArtist we have friends with you at facebook my thesis next year..😊
Thank you🙏
Your views on using vinegar ?
You can mix silver stain with vinegar also 🙂
@@DerekHuntArtist but not your favorite …;)
@@ikust007 hahaha! Well, most of the time I just mix my paints or my stains with water. No gum arabic is needed in the silver stain. I'm not all that keen on the smell of vinegar, so don't use that as much as water. I only use glycol if I want to achieve a special blended effect of the stain. Hope that helps! 🙂
I find very hard to get rid of any residues of stain once I worked the designs :(
Brilliant informative video. Thankyou Derek. Lots of great tips and techniques.
I love painting on glass and have been very tentative when it comes to using silverstein ,
will splash out ! from now on.
Awesome! Keep me posted on how you’re getting on 🙂
Holy cow, that large a jar of silver stain must have cost a fortune! Great video though, my results with silver stain have been inconsistent at best and I really need to block out some time and just do enough test panels to get a feel for how the variables affect outcomes. The cost of enough stain to do that, though...it's daunting at best.
Stain is pricey to be sure! Saving the fired stuff in a spare jar is a good plan:)
@@DerekHuntArtist - I'm ordering the Kenneth Leap book, it looks like it has dozens of test firing samples and that will be a nice way to get the info from somebody who actually knows what they're doing. Thanks for leafing through it in your video so that I could get an idea what it contains.
@@someoldguy383 great stuff! Its a very in depth look at lots of stains available and a great reference book
17:30!! Damn…
Is this permanent?
Yes the yellow stain is fired into the body of the glass, so it’s permanent 🙂
Elkus: the Great. My copy is falling apart!
16:17 with glycol !?
You can use glycol as a mixing medium with silver stain. Just let the mixure sit for at least 24 hours before using or it might be too oily to paint with 🙂
Thank you!