What about SA is supposed to deliver better speeds? It’s all using the same backhaul and frequencies right? And why does it provide better latency? This feels like one of those things the networks have invented.
Nice review of 5G-SA from o2! Perhaps for your upcoming videos, could you show more of the details on the SA CA Matrix page in NSG instead of the SA Data Metrics page? Gives more insight in terms of configuration, channel quality, etc. for SA cells. Thanks :) Also: What I noticed is: SS-SINR, which is displayed at the top right in NSG, is not really usable for throughput estimation, so I often use CSI-SINR value (SA Dedicated Mode page in NSG) for that.
Just moved back to VMO2 as in the South East they are reasonable, and VOLT benefits work for me. I do worry however, the amount of time i still spend on 3G, especially in areas where 5G or 4G is supposedly good; and when they switch off 3G, what then 🤔
After being on a flight from Edinburgh to Dublin with EE, I had signal for the most part, apart from a small portion of the Irish Sea, lost 4G above the clouds and lost EE (onto Emergency Calls Only) above Dumfries and Galloway, started to recive Eir and 3Ireland as we came along the coast of Ireland
I’m sure we will get the usual O2 is rubbish comments but for the customer base they have they always seem to work for me and they crucially provide usable indoor service. It’s just a shame they don’t make all their coverage 4G as ignoring technology, they still beat EE.
@contentgalaxy2095 But isn't that because they've got by far the most customers? There are some congested sites near me in London but they have got all of their spectrum deployed. So what is O2 supposed to do? I'm not sure if that is the case there so if it isn't then they need to deploy all of their bands. But I think some people have an idea that if O2 just deployed all of the bands the problem would disappear. Vodafone would struggle too if they had more customers. EE is a result of a merger which if you will recall when O2 tried it they were not allowed.
@gigabit409 Yeah, but the difference is London is a big city vs Limavady, which wouldn't have that many devices connected to the mast. Even Vodafone with only band 20 and 8 performs better. EE gets 700Mbps on 4G while O2 can be unusable in the town centre. I think O2 has poor backhaul here, but I can't be certain.
Better than EE where I live. Where I live, it's Three, Vodafone/O2, EE in that order. I left EE (for Vodafone) as VF's signal where I needed it was better than EEs and at home EE became ridiculously weak, if you try covering a small town with 5MHz paired spectrum only, you get laughable results when any sort of load is placed on the mast.
@@TheSpotify95EE can be good and on paper they are clearly the best. But the problem is that it looks like they've got loads of spectrum but indoors you can't actually use most of it as it doesn't travel. The amount of times I end up on band 20 is too many. People think O2 is unusable, band 20 on EE literally doesn't work.
Great channel Peter !!! Very informative and interesting. Smashing job!
Thank you Robert
I thought SA was to provide much better speeds and latency? Non SA was more than double with similar latency 👀
What about SA is supposed to deliver better speeds? It’s all using the same backhaul and frequencies right? And why does it provide better latency? This feels like one of those things the networks have invented.
Nice review of 5G-SA from o2! Perhaps for your upcoming videos, could you show more of the details on the SA CA Matrix page in NSG instead of the SA Data Metrics page? Gives more insight in terms of configuration, channel quality, etc. for SA cells. Thanks :)
Also: What I noticed is: SS-SINR, which is displayed at the top right in NSG, is not really usable for throughput estimation, so I often use CSI-SINR value (SA Dedicated Mode page in NSG) for that.
Can you tell us what is beam forming?
When will 3 network get standalone
Just moved back to VMO2 as in the South East they are reasonable, and VOLT benefits work for me. I do worry however, the amount of time i still spend on 3G, especially in areas where 5G or 4G is supposedly good; and when they switch off 3G, what then 🤔
If you go on a plane can you try to recieve cell signal on the plane (in the air, not at airport)
Or try to receive uk signals in ireland or france
After being on a flight from Edinburgh to Dublin with EE, I had signal for the most part, apart from a small portion of the Irish Sea, lost 4G above the clouds and lost EE (onto Emergency Calls Only) above Dumfries and Galloway, started to recive Eir and 3Ireland as we came along the coast of Ireland
What application is that your running?
Network Signal Guru, it requires Root access on Android
@@theirisheditor Cool app I need a spare phone to root :) Thanks for letting us know.
What device is this?
Xiaomi 12
I’m sure we will get the usual O2 is rubbish comments but for the customer base they have they always seem to work for me and they crucially provide usable indoor service. It’s just a shame they don’t make all their coverage 4G as ignoring technology, they still beat EE.
Their network is extremely congested in some parts of Northern Ireland though, like in Limavady..
@contentgalaxy2095 But isn't that because they've got by far the most customers? There are some congested sites near me in London but they have got all of their spectrum deployed. So what is O2 supposed to do? I'm not sure if that is the case there so if it isn't then they need to deploy all of their bands. But I think some people have an idea that if O2 just deployed all of the bands the problem would disappear. Vodafone would struggle too if they had more customers. EE is a result of a merger which if you will recall when O2 tried it they were not allowed.
@gigabit409 Yeah, but the difference is London is a big city vs Limavady, which wouldn't have that many devices connected to the mast. Even Vodafone with only band 20 and 8 performs better. EE gets 700Mbps on 4G while O2 can be unusable in the town centre.
I think O2 has poor backhaul here, but I can't be certain.
Slow-2
Better than Nothing Nowhere. 2024 and they still can’t produce usable indoor coverage in London.
Better than EE where I live. Where I live, it's Three, Vodafone/O2, EE in that order.
I left EE (for Vodafone) as VF's signal where I needed it was better than EEs and at home EE became ridiculously weak, if you try covering a small town with 5MHz paired spectrum only, you get laughable results when any sort of load is placed on the mast.
@@TheSpotify95EE can be good and on paper they are clearly the best. But the problem is that it looks like they've got loads of spectrum but indoors you can't actually use most of it as it doesn't travel. The amount of times I end up on band 20 is too many. People think O2 is unusable, band 20 on EE literally doesn't work.