But you can have intrusive thoughts without having OCD, so people who have intrusive thoughts that cause distress or anxiety can understand and relate to this.
I have intrusive thoughts mainly because of my depression but I don’t think I have OCD, although sometimes I might double check to see if a door is locked or if my stove is off but nothing to the point we’re i become obsessed with it and it becomes unbearable. None of us deserve to go thru this. Blessings.
For anyone else who watches this, please show some respect, sympathy, and pure kindness for Rose Cartwright, and be blessed that consultant psychiatrists, like Dr. David Veale are around. I absolutely admire Rose Cartwright - she is such a lovely, trustworthy, and kind hearted person, and she deserves kindness, respect, and support from the general public watching this. I feel like being so sympathetically compassionate and kind hearted to people like her, and it seriously breaks my heart, and really gets my goat so so much imagining people with Pure O OCD being bullied by some mental health professionals or doctors. It is time for all people who watch this to change their attitudes to people with OCD.
She's very brave. It's hard to talk about OCD. It's like all your worst fears are playing in your head. The fact that you have anxiety about thoughts really gives you the answer to your fears. But OCD isn't very logical it's irrational lol.
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts. Wishing you all the best 😊❤
It's likely that I don't have OCD - just frequent intrusive thoughts that cause me great distress. Still, I found this helpful. Like this actually helped, I needed the reassurance and the information on this topic. I feel better. Thank you.
@@PrincessJuliah I might not be able to make a clear distinction but here it goes… Intrusive thoughts are thoughts which are disturbing in nature for the person who has them. It can differ from person to person so a though that distressing for one might be not disturbing for someone else. When it comes to OCD, intrusive thoughts do make a significant part of it but it doesn’t end there. OCD also has the “C” part to it, and that is the compulsion part. Usually people with OCD make huge efforts to neutralize their intrusive thoughts of all kinds. Some of the thoughts can be seen quite bening for the people around the owner of the thoughts but when you have OCD, it’s nowhere near bening. An easily dismissable thought can become an awake nightmare. People with OCD try to get rid of the thoughts and the feelings that come with them. They can ask for reassurance, constantly check things, pray the thought away, get into some pretty exhausting rituals in order to feel safe and better. Washing hands, re-locking doors, specific counting behaviors can also be seen. I think it would also benefit to talk about the term “Pure O”. Pure O is broadly defined as OCD withouth the compulsions but what they mean by no compulsions is that there are no compulsions that can be realised by an outside eye. Sometimes even the person who does the compulsions won’t be aware that they are doing a compulsion. Rumination, mental checking, memory hoarding are just a couple of mental compulsion examples I can give. OCD can be a very disabling illness, but recovery is possible. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy combined with ERP (Exposure-response prevention) is the gold standart these days but different people benefit from different types of therapy and even medication. Recovery of mental health is not one size fits it all. Anyway, that’s it for now. If you would like to dive into the topic of OCD more, I would gladly share some resources such as video links and articles. Take care!
You can't avoid a baseball without looking at it. It's our survival instinct to notice things that hurt us, emotionally/physically. If you're surrounded by a tiger, your mind is obviously going to be fixated on it. We don't have these thoughts/images cuz we like them. It's the opposite. 👍
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts. Wishing you all the best 😊❤
The first time I learned that these thoughts other people experience them and that in fact is OCD I felt a relief so strange that I cried hard. Every now and then I go back in the internet to “remind” myself that it is an actual condition and its not ME (in a sense). Cause I forget and sometimes the thoughts make me doubt so much that it triggers me to keep digging into this mental hole or ‘rut’. Also use it to learn a little more each time calming my anxiety and cloud of thoughts.
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7). Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Thanks OCD action on this devastating feeling we sufferers experience. It's all false thinking like the Amygdala goes haywire good luck to all that suffer.
All of these mental techniques are something. But If you have a Spiritual base. Call on God. God has helped me tremendously with intrusive thoughts. I know everyone doesnt believe when we You are at depths of despair. What do You have to lose? Sending You Love and Strength to make it through!
True preach brother, we need spiritual work more grounding to limit intruisive thoughts. Having higher love in our lives is beautiful and keeps us strong both mentally and physically
My spiritual path is actually what made me very mentally unstable and got me into this OCD bullshit, because the ego does everything in its power to survive, but I know that with Gods help I will get through anything. Amen 🙏
I hope that some mental health professionals who misdiagnose people with this type of OCD as ''paedophiles'' lead by example of OCD expert Dr. David Veale, and stop with this horrific bullying in the first instance and use their words and non verbal communicative behaviours as carefully and in the most sensitive manner possible, and to diagnose them as having OCD instead of a ''paedophile''. Any mental health professional watching this and has deliberately slapped (mis) diagnoses of ''paedophilia'' or ''sex offender'' needs to very sincerely and compulsively apologize to the clients and their loved ones for all the unnecessary added distress and injustice caused, and feel ashamed of yourselves inside your hearts for deliberately and unscrupulously interfering with the mental health of OCD sufferers, when mental health professionals should know down well the difference between ''paedophilia'' and ''Pure O OCD''. This sort of misdiagnosis can be very psychologically brainwashing for the individual. Also, it makes me cry so so much and have a massive lump in my throat that some people with this type of OCD who fear they may have sexually abused a child or vulnerable person in the past, when they actually have not, are so vulnerable to awful bullying that they may be placed onto a sex offenders register or into prison and this makes mental health issues worsen so much to the extent of possible multiple suicide attempts, and that OCD is very, very treatable with CBT therapy, mindfulness meditations, empathic and sympathetic OCD experts like Dr. David Veale, and other correct clinical supports, and in some cases, medications. My opinion of Rose is that she clearly suffers from OCD, and she is a very, very nice person - does that make sense? Sorry for the long comment, but I just cannot stand injustice at all.
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts. Wishing you all the best 😊❤
When I started suffering of OCD, I was only 14. I thought I was a disgusting girl who had no dignity. I fell into anxiety, panic attacks and depression.
Very helpful The lady who mentioned going to the field I do that too I escape to nature to heal that moment I say moment because not living near the field I can not heal every single min of bad thoughts every day Also I feel like a weirdo outdoors so to me seeing so many of you experiencing what I do is kind of refreshing I know it sounds bad as it is so sad you all are suffering but it means I am not alone and you are not alone It is hard as people around me do not understand so I avoid people and only go out if I have to run errands and for coffee or so People judge and ocd took my life away in a way from me As I can not do normal things
Not everyone is christian this isn’t the time to bring christianity anything remotely related to mental health your religion doesn’t have to be displayed or enforced every moment you can especially when it comes to speaking of mental health so in my opinion I this your comment is disrespectful keep it to yourself.
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts. Wishing you all the best 😊❤
I feel similar to her,at a young age, I had severe OCD that stemmed memories that became so traumatic thats why the impact of intrusive thoughts makes me think I am a bad person for thinking bad things I could do to my parents and or their things. It keep me thinking if I will do it or what if I do it(p.s i didnt do anything since those are just thoughts thats not mine), which doesnt align with my morals and personality.
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7). Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7). Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7). Wishing you all the best 😊❤
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts. Wishing you all the best 😊❤
I wish they commented on the dudes story. That man is in such a nightmarish place, still having those thoughts and feelings despite being a father after years, I wish they gave him some insight as to how to come out of the OCD and whatnot. Nobody should have to suffer that much, in silence especially.
hello, I have ocd and schizophrenia where both these conditions interact with each other. when I have intrusive thoughts, the voices pick up on them and then punish me for getting these thoughts. they call me 'peaodophile ' constantly so I get the thoughts then they punish me for getting these thoughts. it feels like I am getting attacked every single day in my life. I am seeing a mental health team.
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7). Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Some "old treatments" for OCD used in my country (Spain) were just torture methods. I am 51 and I have overcame it completely, but It was highly traumatising. For years I tried to heal the wounds and resentment produced by the therapy. They let the OCD grind you from inside until you change. I stood the pain for almost 3 years until they broke me.
I had an intrusive thought about stepping on my cats tummy. And I think a small part of me wanted to do it. I obviously regretted thinking of it then, and I still do now. The thing is I just randomly remembered it, since I had forgotten. It had been many months since I had those thoughts. Now I feel extremely guilty. I love my cat so much, and I don't want to hurt her. I feel so guilty. What do I do about it?
If you had to question yourself whether you wanted to do it or not chances are you didn’t want to do it. I know it’s very hard, but try not to beat yourself over it..I really do wish you the best💗
Ahh finally a man with a family struggles with this just like me I love my kids and fiancé to death bro but aye your brain is stupid don’t listen to it❤️❤️
I used to think me being trans was just intrusive thoughts but being the opposite gender inside has always been there and me gradually realising that oh shit this is what I am wasn’t an intrusion, it’s just a part of life for me and always has been, but me worrying I’m a bad person and having intrusive thoughts hasn’t always been there, it’s not a part of me and I don’t plan to act on what comes into my head like it disgusts me but being the opposite gender doesn’t disgust me and I guess that’s how you can tell the difference between desire and intrusion
Rose would like to know why she’s still “bodily wired” to OCD triggers although she intellectually understands there is no valid content to her intrusive thoughts (20:50-21:36). She thinks that if she only knew how to “rewire her body”, her problem would be solved. This is why she asks the question to Professor Veale: “This is a question for you, David”. The problem is that if consulted experts don’t know the answer, she’ll probably believe she’s stuck with her condition for the rest of her life, which is not a pleasant prospect. Experts do have a role to play. However, it may be best "not to bet too heavily on a horse", just in case. This is particularly difficult for people with OCD who are naturally tempted to incorporate their recovery into their OCD. Rose may make what’s called an “attribution error”. She thinks that her anxiety is due to the fact that her body is wired a certain way and that she doesn’t know “how to rewire it with CBT and ERP alone”. She could be wrong. Maybe her intrusive thoughts (which could pop up in anybody’s mind) make her abnormally anxious because they prevent her from having a normal life. If that’s the case, it’s a matter of focusing on normal activities and trusting that, with the passage of time and basic good judgement, her body will respond in an appropriate manner (see Acceptance and Commitment Therapy or ACT). The fundamental question is to determine whether I can’t live a normal life because I’m excessively anxious or I’m excessively anxious because I can’t live a normal life.
Unlike child porn, acting on pedophile thoughts, murdering/hurtig someone etc., being gay (or the fear of being gay) should really not be put in the same context when talking about something so horrible or disgusting. I have no idea why this was neccessary. Aside from that I found this video really helpful.
Are you supposed to purposely think about the thoughts in situations you would normally avoid or is this possibly unhelpful? As my therapist tells me to think of them on purpose.
I’ve always been told that if you try to avoid thinking about it then you are placing importance on the thoughts and giving them more meaning than they have
A couple of questions for sufferers to help with me study this topic : 1. What type of dicipline/punishment did your parents use to correct you when you were children ? A. Harsher method( smacking with hand or belt ect...) B. Softer method ( told to stop, go to your room, naughty corner, grounded ect...) ? C. Given a lecture but no punishment at all 2. Was punishment administered every time you did something wrong or at least 80-90% of the time, or was punishment rarely implemented. ( reasons for last option can be varied ie. parents too busy ect... )
It's not the thoughts that are the problem it's what you DO that's the problem,if you did nothing about them they would fade/calm and your life would be so much better😉..learn to 'accept 'the thoughts it's all bullshit anyway...
Ocd is like brain or mind disorder it's not just something you can simply 'cure' like maybe someone with like schizophrenia maybe, who can take antipsychotic medications, or something.. It's actually quite more complicated than a simple one all, be all 'simple cure' of sorts and takes a quite deep understanding of the morals/ethics/philosophy behind these thoughts and movements/actions associated with OCD..
Society is at fault believe me I am a victim of it. One I never had ocd before till after so many years and life incidents that made me that way. But through out the years believe me or not society played it’s part. One I know I am not the only one who was accused out of the blue by people of staring at their privates being placed in a scary and embarrassing moment. Also had people who went out their way to embarrass me sexually with porn by attacking my size and my sexuality.
@Jim Newt I am a lesbian. I was just commenting to make a point that there is absolutely no shame in being gay or having gay thoughts. We have been conditioned to think that it is something to be afraid and shamed of. My intention was to release the shame around but it seems to have been received a different way... Sorry
@Jim Newt I think problems occur when the ego is so strongly identified with a certain orientation and any thought of anything otherwise is so absolutely terrifying and sends one into an existential crisis... Of course the ego is a legitimate thing but I also think it's important to practise releasing the ego and any fear or shame around being one way or another...
I believe it was very unnecessary to use being gay in the context it seems as if it comes off as being bad or expressing who you’re as for sexuality the information can be helpful however that in the context wasn’t worded right nor needed.
I don't know where you're from, Ray, but - as someone from the British isles, I pick up that the doctor is using inclusive, ironic humour as a way of relieving sufferers who are watching. I cry-laughed out of relief at his manner
Only people who suffered from OCD know how it feels. Other people can try to understand it but it’s so much more to really go through it.
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Exactly, I got an early start like at 7 years old!
But you can have intrusive thoughts without having OCD, so people who have intrusive thoughts that cause distress or anxiety can understand and relate to this.
I have intrusive thoughts mainly because of my depression but I don’t think I have OCD, although sometimes I might double check to see if a door is locked or if my stove is off but nothing to the point we’re i become obsessed with it and it becomes unbearable. None of us deserve to go thru this. Blessings.
For anyone else who watches this, please show some respect, sympathy, and pure kindness for Rose Cartwright, and be blessed that consultant psychiatrists, like Dr. David Veale are around. I absolutely admire Rose Cartwright - she is such a lovely, trustworthy, and kind hearted person, and she deserves kindness, respect, and support from the general public watching this. I feel like being so sympathetically compassionate and kind hearted to people like her, and it seriously breaks my heart, and really gets my goat so so much imagining people with Pure O OCD being bullied by some mental health professionals or doctors. It is time for all people who watch this to change their attitudes to people with OCD.
Intrusive thoughts\images is a popular BPD symptom as well.
It's sad people who suffer like this even get disrespected on top of it.
I totally relate to her. She seems so relatable and sweet.
Thank you so much for uploading this. My intrusive thoughts are 24/7 and are really debilitating. This has brought me hope.
She's very brave. It's hard to talk about OCD. It's like all your worst fears are playing in your head. The fact that you have anxiety about thoughts really gives you the answer to your fears. But OCD isn't very logical it's irrational lol.
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts.
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
@@feelsokayman3959 Thank you God Bless
It's likely that I don't have OCD - just frequent intrusive thoughts that cause me great distress. Still, I found this helpful. Like this actually helped, I needed the reassurance and the information on this topic. I feel better. Thank you.
Same!
What’s the difference between OCD and intrusive thoughts?
@@PrincessJuliah I might not be able to make a clear distinction but here it goes…
Intrusive thoughts are thoughts which are disturbing in nature for the person who has them. It can differ from person to person so a though that distressing for one might be not disturbing for someone else.
When it comes to OCD, intrusive thoughts do make a significant part of it but it doesn’t end there. OCD also has the “C” part to it, and that is the compulsion part. Usually people with OCD make huge efforts to neutralize their intrusive thoughts of all kinds. Some of the thoughts can be seen quite bening for the people around the owner of the thoughts but when you have OCD, it’s nowhere near bening. An easily dismissable thought can become an awake nightmare. People with OCD try to get rid of the thoughts and the feelings that come with them. They can ask for reassurance, constantly check things, pray the thought away, get into some pretty exhausting rituals in order to feel safe and better. Washing hands, re-locking doors, specific counting behaviors can also be seen.
I think it would also benefit to talk about the term “Pure O”. Pure O is broadly defined as OCD withouth the compulsions but what they mean by no compulsions is that there are no compulsions that can be realised by an outside eye. Sometimes even the person who does the compulsions won’t be aware that they are doing a compulsion. Rumination, mental checking, memory hoarding are just a couple of mental compulsion examples I can give.
OCD can be a very disabling illness, but recovery is possible. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy combined with ERP (Exposure-response prevention) is the gold standart these days but different people benefit from different types of therapy and even medication. Recovery of mental health is not one size fits it all.
Anyway, that’s it for now. If you would like to dive into the topic of OCD more, I would gladly share some resources such as video links and articles. Take care!
@@Christine-qg8jc share please and thank you.
That is OCD! It’s likely more Pure O
You can't avoid a baseball without looking at it. It's our survival instinct to notice things that hurt us, emotionally/physically. If you're surrounded by a tiger, your mind is obviously going to be fixated on it. We don't have these thoughts/images cuz we like them. It's the opposite. 👍
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts.
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
The first time I learned that these thoughts other people experience them and that in fact is OCD I felt a relief so strange that I cried hard. Every now and then I go back in the internet to “remind” myself that it is an actual condition and its not ME (in a sense). Cause I forget and sometimes the thoughts make me doubt so much that it triggers me to keep digging into this mental hole or ‘rut’.
Also use it to learn a little more each time calming my anxiety and cloud of thoughts.
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7).
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
I need this. Thank YOU
Thanks OCD action on this devastating feeling we sufferers experience. It's all false thinking like the Amygdala goes haywire good luck to all that suffer.
He's very comforting and reassuring. I need people like them in life.
Me too
All of these mental techniques are something. But If you have a Spiritual base. Call on God. God has helped me tremendously with intrusive thoughts. I know everyone doesnt believe when we You are at depths of despair. What do You have to lose? Sending You Love and Strength to make it through!
True preach brother, we need spiritual work more grounding to limit intruisive thoughts.
Having higher love in our lives is beautiful and keeps us strong both mentally and physically
@@motivate_k3766 Right On!
My spiritual path is actually what made me very mentally unstable and got me into this OCD bullshit, because the ego does everything in its power to survive, but I know that with Gods help I will get through anything.
Amen 🙏
Amen to that 😇🙏
I just can’t help but think why are we suffering in this way. Why were we given this pain to suffer through instead of others?
This was very comforting, thanks for uploading.
I hope that some mental health professionals who misdiagnose people with this type of OCD as ''paedophiles'' lead by example of OCD expert Dr. David Veale, and stop with this horrific bullying in the first instance and use their words and non verbal communicative behaviours as carefully and in the most sensitive manner possible, and to diagnose them as having OCD instead of a ''paedophile''. Any mental health professional watching this and has deliberately slapped (mis) diagnoses of ''paedophilia'' or ''sex offender'' needs to very sincerely and compulsively apologize to the clients and their loved ones for all the unnecessary added distress and injustice caused, and feel ashamed of yourselves inside your hearts for deliberately and unscrupulously interfering with the mental health of OCD sufferers, when mental health professionals should know down well the difference between ''paedophilia'' and ''Pure O OCD''. This sort of misdiagnosis can be very psychologically brainwashing for the individual. Also, it makes me cry so so much and have a massive lump in my throat that some people with this type of OCD who fear they may have sexually abused a child or vulnerable person in the past, when they actually have not, are so vulnerable to awful bullying that they may be placed onto a sex offenders register or into prison and this makes mental health issues worsen so much to the extent of possible multiple suicide attempts, and that OCD is very, very treatable with CBT therapy, mindfulness meditations, empathic and sympathetic OCD experts like Dr. David Veale, and other correct clinical supports, and in some cases, medications. My opinion of Rose is that she clearly suffers from OCD, and she is a very, very nice person - does that make sense? Sorry for the long comment, but I just cannot stand injustice at all.
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts.
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Breath of fresh air thank u
Amazing video! Thank you
When I started suffering of OCD, I was only 14. I thought I was a disgusting girl who had no dignity. I fell into anxiety, panic attacks and depression.
This is expert advice from this professor
Thanks so
Much great content
Loved this!
I need this guys in my life
thank you for this.
Very helpful
The lady who mentioned going to the field I do that too I escape to nature to heal that moment
I say moment because not living near the field I can not heal every single min of bad thoughts every day
Also I feel like a weirdo outdoors so to me seeing so many of you experiencing what I do is kind of refreshing
I know it sounds bad as it is so sad you all are suffering but it means I am not alone and you are not alone
It is hard as people around me do not understand so I avoid people and only go out if I have to run errands and for coffee or so
People judge and ocd took my life away in a way from me As I can not do normal things
God Bless everyone!!!! Jesus Loves you all very much!!!!
Not everyone is christian this isn’t the time to bring christianity anything remotely related to mental health your religion doesn’t have to be displayed or enforced every moment you can especially when it comes to speaking of mental health so in my opinion I this your comment is disrespectful keep it to yourself.
Amen ❤✝️🙏
@@user-qt6bz6cr5eWell said.
I’ve been dealing with this lately, helpful. I really relate to the thinking about the thought, like do I really believe this, etc…. It’s been tough
How are u doing now? Currently going through this, I don’t know if it will ever go away
Brilliant. Found this very helpful
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts.
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
@@feelsokayman3959 Beautiful. Thank you so much for this. Have copied it into my journal. God bless
I feel similar to her,at a young age, I had severe OCD that stemmed memories that became so traumatic thats why the impact of intrusive thoughts makes me think I am a bad person for thinking bad things I could do to my parents and or their things. It keep me thinking if I will do it or what if I do it(p.s i didnt do anything since those are just thoughts thats not mine), which doesnt align with my morals and personality.
Thank you Rose 💚
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7).
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
He is a LEGEND
Thank you SO much..
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7).
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
@@feelsokayman3959 Appreciate it 😁👍
A amazing usefully video
very informative, on POINT! i relate to this so much, gives me comfort. thank u! :(
There are many of us out there
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7).
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Thanks for sharing
If you have intrusive thoughts, do these two things consequently and your intrusive thoughts WILL 100% get better or maybe even completely vanish if you do it long enough: Meditate daily (ideally 30-60+ minutes, I recommend Vipassana, which is simply putting your Awareness on your breath) and constantly practice Awareness throughout the entire day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a distanced and detached way. You have to realize that you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. Do not identify with your thoughts and simply observe them from a distance. Intrusive thoughts are randomly generated and you have absolutely 0 control over them, but you have the power of being able to ignore them and not worry about them. Fully accept and welcome all thoughts, no matter how strange or disturbing they may be. Never feel ashamed, disgusted or shocked, this fuels intrusive thoughts immensely. Intrusive thoughts thrive on the attention and meaning you give to them. Meditating is gonna be extremely hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness. The goal would be to remain in Awareness 24/7, which would make you completely invulnerable to all intrusive thoughts.
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
I wish they commented on the dudes story. That man is in such a nightmarish place, still having those thoughts and feelings despite being a father after years, I wish they gave him some insight as to how to come out of the OCD and whatnot. Nobody should have to suffer that much, in silence especially.
Easy said then done !
hello, I have ocd and schizophrenia where both these conditions interact with each other. when I have intrusive thoughts, the voices pick up on them and then punish me for getting these thoughts. they call me 'peaodophile ' constantly so I get the thoughts then they punish me for getting these thoughts. it feels like I am getting attacked every single day in my life. I am seeing a mental health team.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PARTICIPANT FOR FUTURE STUDIES! Anyone know how to be connected?
He’s very smart.
Breath of fresh air
Tolerate anxiety helps in the long run because of ot will helps to resists urges, compulsions
I have religious mental rituals going on on my thoughts its been a burden on my entire life its very exhausting
22:00 This, It seems as if I have ptsd from pure o to this day.
Best advice I can give you if you have intrusive thoughts is meditating daily and constantly practicing Awareness throughout the day. Practicing Awareness means simply observing your thoughts and negative feelings in a detached manner. Realize you ARE the observer/the Awareness and not the observed thoughts. You are completely free of all of your thoughts if you do not identify with them and simply observe them from a distance. Thoughts are randomly generated and you have no control over that, but you have the control of ignoring them, and therefore not giving them any power. This is gonna be hard at first, but don't be discouraged, it will become easier and easier the more you meditate and practice Awareness (ideally 24/7).
Wishing you all the best 😊❤
Some "old treatments" for OCD used in my country (Spain) were just torture methods. I am 51 and I have overcame it completely, but It was highly traumatising. For years I tried to heal the wounds and resentment produced by the therapy. They let the OCD grind you from inside until you change. I stood the pain for almost 3 years until they broke me.
Wow. I wish you the best
How did you overcome ocd ?
como le hiciste para recuperarte y que OCD tenias
I had an intrusive thought about stepping on my cats tummy. And I think a small part of me wanted to do it. I obviously regretted thinking of it then, and I still do now. The thing is I just randomly remembered it, since I had forgotten. It had been many months since I had those thoughts. Now I feel extremely guilty. I love my cat so much, and I don't want to hurt her. I feel so guilty. What do I do about it?
If you had to question yourself whether you wanted to do it or not chances are you didn’t want to do it. I know it’s very hard, but try not to beat yourself over it..I really do wish you the best💗
@@hoimawi Thanks! :)
Ahh finally a man with a family struggles with this just like me I love my kids and fiancé to death bro but aye your brain is stupid don’t listen to it❤️❤️
“George” (Hayes)
God my OCD is killing me rn. I just want to stop questioning if I'm a shitty person.
Maybe just treating all thoughts that arise as a question/invitation…
You can accept it or you can leave it be
?
I used to think me being trans was just intrusive thoughts but being the opposite gender inside has always been there and me gradually realising that oh shit this is what I am wasn’t an intrusion, it’s just a part of life for me and always has been, but me worrying I’m a bad person and having intrusive thoughts hasn’t always been there, it’s not a part of me and I don’t plan to act on what comes into my head like it disgusts me but being the opposite gender doesn’t disgust me and I guess that’s how you can tell the difference between desire and intrusion
Rose would like to know why she’s still “bodily wired” to OCD triggers although she intellectually understands there is no valid content to her intrusive thoughts (20:50-21:36). She thinks that if she only knew how to “rewire her body”, her problem would be solved. This is why she asks the question to Professor Veale: “This is a question for you, David”. The problem is that if consulted experts don’t know the answer, she’ll probably believe she’s stuck with her condition for the rest of her life, which is not a pleasant prospect. Experts do have a role to play. However, it may be best "not to bet too heavily on a horse", just in case. This is particularly difficult for people with OCD who are naturally tempted to incorporate their recovery into their OCD.
Rose may make what’s called an “attribution error”. She thinks that her anxiety is due to the fact that her body is wired a certain way and that she doesn’t know “how to rewire it with CBT and ERP alone”. She could be wrong. Maybe her intrusive thoughts (which could pop up in anybody’s mind) make her abnormally anxious because they prevent her from having a normal life. If that’s the case, it’s a matter of focusing on normal activities and trusting that, with the passage of time and basic good judgement, her body will respond in an appropriate manner (see Acceptance and Commitment Therapy or ACT). The fundamental question is to determine whether I can’t live a normal life because I’m excessively anxious or I’m excessively anxious because I can’t live a normal life.
Unlike child porn, acting on pedophile thoughts, murdering/hurtig someone etc., being gay (or the fear of being gay) should really not be put in the same context when talking about something so horrible or disgusting. I have no idea why this was neccessary.
Aside from that I found this video really helpful.
Agreed, I thought that exact same thing , but the video is very helpful
Agreed.
Agreed. Saying being gay as disgusting to look upon was very unnecessary for this video
Yeah agreed
Though i could see how a homophobe would have intrusive thoughts about it
Are you supposed to purposely think about the thoughts in situations you would normally avoid or is this possibly unhelpful? As my therapist tells me to think of them on purpose.
I’ve always been told that if you try to avoid thinking about it then you are placing importance on the thoughts and giving them more meaning than they have
A couple of questions for sufferers to help with me study this topic :
1. What type of dicipline/punishment did your parents use to correct you when you were children ?
A. Harsher method( smacking with hand or belt ect...)
B. Softer method ( told to stop, go to your room, naughty corner, grounded ect...) ?
C. Given a lecture but no punishment at all
2. Was punishment administered every time you did something wrong or at least 80-90% of the time, or was punishment rarely implemented.
( reasons for last option can be varied ie. parents too busy ect... )
C and punishment rarely implemented.
A
All the time
1. A
2. Very rarely, upon me doing absolutely terrible deeds
A and 90% of the timr
A
One trip to Chuckie Cheese restaurant will make you hate kids.
These women know so much more than this dude
It's not the thoughts that are the problem it's what you DO that's the problem,if you did nothing about them they would fade/calm and your life would be so much better😉..learn to 'accept 'the thoughts it's all bullshit anyway...
Spoiler alert: No cure
Tell me about it.
yet
Well only manageable symptoms
Ocd is like brain or mind disorder it's not just something you can simply 'cure' like maybe someone with like schizophrenia maybe, who can take antipsychotic medications, or something.. It's actually quite more complicated than a simple one all, be all 'simple cure' of sorts and takes a quite deep understanding of the morals/ethics/philosophy behind these thoughts and movements/actions associated with OCD..
No there's not, this is just a lot of hot air.
Society is at fault believe me I am a victim of it. One I never had ocd before till after so many years and life incidents that made me that way. But through out the years believe me or not society played it’s part. One I know I am not the only one who was accused out of the blue by people of staring at their privates being placed in a scary and embarrassing moment. Also had people who went out their way to embarrass me sexually with porn by attacking my size and my sexuality.
Their is group, for ocd staring 😊👍
There is no shame in being gay or potentially being gay !!!
@Jim Newt I am a lesbian. I was just commenting to make a point that there is absolutely no shame in being gay or having gay thoughts. We have been conditioned to think that it is something to be afraid and shamed of. My intention was to release the shame around but it seems to have been received a different way... Sorry
@Jim Newt I think problems occur when the ego is so strongly identified with a certain orientation and any thought of anything otherwise is so absolutely terrifying and sends one into an existential crisis...
Of course the ego is a legitimate thing but I also think it's important to practise releasing the ego and any fear or shame around being one way or another...
@Jim Newt let what go?
And if you'd like to be more compassionate towards my ignorance and help me understand OCD and its origins then I would be so grateful.
@Jim Newt interesting. Have you been diagnosed with it?
Ok but it's ok to be gay
I agree. It's just good to know if you're actually gay or if it's just a compulsion.
I believe it was very unnecessary to use being gay in the context it seems as if it comes off as being bad or expressing who you’re as for sexuality the information can be helpful however that in the context wasn’t worded right nor needed.
This guy has zero empathy !
I don't know where you're from, Ray, but - as someone from the British isles, I pick up that the doctor is using inclusive, ironic humour as a way of relieving sufferers who are watching. I cry-laughed out of relief at his manner
He's a professional
He has a british sense of humor, their humor is just like that. Man is trying to relieve tension