What I say in this video: Man, it'd be cool if Konami promoted larger channels like Simply Unlucky, Cyberknight, Cimo, Team Aps, Team Samuraix1, and more! What people heard from this video: Dzeeff wants free cards from Konami and is salty they didn't give them to him!
Well the title of the video is kinda click-baity, as it is more about the lacking support of TCG-Yugitubers, than Konami not understanding their own product. I expected stuff like the lack of localization of essential cards of an archetype ("Frightfur Patchwork" & "Subterror Guru"), because they don't get that those might be needed and can sell products, if they are still relevant then. or stuff like "F.A. Winners", which shows a clear misunderstanding of the archetype.
I heard exactly what you said, you could have a point, but there is a huge difference between your two examples (tcg ygo and heartstone). Blizzard is known for wow. That is crystal clear to all of us. Wow isn t what it used to be, as an income for blizzard, so they released heartstone and it worked(possibly better than they thought). For konami, ygo is just a mere percentage from their income, especially in Europe or usa, so it is only logical for them not to "care" so much or "understand" at all. If ygo starts being the main income for konami, you can make the same discussion again, with much more to talk about. But right now, you were just biased and trying to prove an illogical point (at least from my POV). Keep up the good work.
While the commercial was cringey and meme-worthy, I understand Konami's logic, from a business stand point. Duel Links targets a casual, nostalgic audience, primarily. In that regard, casting a Pokemon Go RUclipsr was a stroke of marketing genius. There's probably a lot of overlap between people who fondly remember Pokemon and Yugioh, so if that guy's name cache caught their eye, there was a good chance they would be interested in the product. Can't justify those bizarre boxes, though.
What's going on guys, Bottom of the Barrel, 18kSubs "This Guy" here lol😂. I'll clear things up. As far as I know it was a Duel Links Promo and the Tcg RUclipsrs got them as well, obviously. However it feels like it was more of a 2nd thought than anything else. In my communications with "Konami" they expressed a desire to reach out to DuelLinksTubers and YugiTubers more in 2018 (Whatever that means). Why they choose 1 channel over another I have no idea. BTW Duel links players play and keep up with the TCG meta lol. If they are anything like me, they keep up with the meta by watching channels like these. We also know about Link Monsters as well LMFAO😂
Awesome to hear your insight, I wonder how truthful the "working with more tubers in 2018" will turn out to be. Also, as I'm sure you probably could tell, I don't actually think you're the "bottom of the barrel," I was more just showing that they passed up multiple 50k+ sub TCG channels for a 18k sub Duel Links channel
My favorite yugi tubers are finally talking! FA my first irl deck in a long time @dzeeff definitely one my favorite archetype! Also @ytdan cyber angel otk my parents too 😭 !
Actually, the structure deck was mostly to promote the vrains anime. To celebrate vrains' release, everyone got free yugioh vrains themed mat and sleeve in duellinks.
But Duel links players don't watch the anime. They don't play the TCG\OCG. The two games only share the same cards, the games themselves are basicaly seperate.
What do you mean they passed up Cimoo? Did you see his video titles? "Do not Buy Yu-Gi-Oh products", yeah sure let's send him a crate. Why would a company interact with someone who literally incentivises their audience to not buy said company's products?
i get what you're saying, but at the same time i'd really hope that if they do see that, that they'd understand where he's coming from as a player and a consumer, and take his criticisms seriously in order to build better packs moving forward. granted, they only have so much control in the tcg since the ocg determines the bulk of each set usually, but they can still control the rarities of cards and when the set releases for the most part, and they have complete control over the non core sets like the legendary collections/decks, star packs, and any time they do something like making the pendulum evolution structure deck a booster set instead.
While it's true that Cimo does that, it's also true that he's targetting a meta sliver of the community with his content hence he will give opinions on product based on how useful it is for the metagame. Surely Konami is well aware when they release product that's not intended for competitive players, and if the only reason for excluding Cimo is something as petty as retaliation for justified criticism, then Konami shows a facet, as a gaming company, that spells more of ruin than success. But since neither of us know for sure this is merely speculation.
I think there's a lot of personal wants that people could have from konami for yu-gi-oh, but then there's large pockets that come to agree with wants. Interaction with the player base, rarity bumping (personally I don't care as much on this one), prize support, JUMP promos etc. I think it's fine to voice displeasure, but I also do agree, when they do a good job like Konami Europe does so often, they deserve some props also.
The thing with Konami, like with other large gaming companies like EA, is that they seem to be drifting more and more towards "Get rich quick" schemes rather than keeping to a loyal fan base and actually doing things right by them. It's all about a fast dollar, hence the erratic ban lists, the severe lack of synergy between OCG and TCG releases, and pushing petty apps like Duel Links as opposed to actually paying care and attention to the real life card game. Personally I had hoped that after the backlash against EA's loot box scam, that it would have been a wake-up call to gaming companies across the board and across gaming mediums. That sadly doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't have anything against DL and it's actually like their best idea in decades even though I rarely play it, it was a good decision. But, the prize support, the mess with Jump Promos that make it seem like there's 3 versions of the game instead of 2 (and reminding people here that initially there was a single banlist but the player base insited on different banlists since OCG got the new stuff first always anyway). This video mentions Blizzard a lot, and they are definitely a large gaming company that is thoughtful about their fans/costumers, even though they are basically trying to make money as well. And although Konami needs to improve a lot in many areas, what the majority of people want isn't always the best, and the proof is that even though being so often and hugely criticised for their decisions (often correctly), Konami is still a big company and raking profits.
The one thing I will say about the Duel Links trailer specifically, they may have looked at how Pokemon GO attracted mostly people who weren't into either the TCG or the video games and attempted to go for a wider audience that might have some kind of nostalgic attachment. It's weird, but I can kind of piece together what the thought process was.
I'm not saying they're actually comparable, but I can see where Konami maybe didn't understand the difference between the two applications like you outlined. Also, bear in mind that dzeef even mentioned that one of the presenters in the ad was a PG youtuber. I think Konami just saw PG as a 90s nostalgia cash grab and figured they could go for that same market. And I don't think it's a huge stretch to say Konami didn't know what made PG successful when people in general seem to have a hard time picking out what made it work so well. I don't think Konami's decision was a good one, I just think you can kind of see the wonky logic behind it.
2:28 that's bizarre seeing Sam McLewee on this channel. (I know him from my competitive pokemon TCG days, he was my age and his brother was my brother's best friend through Pokemon so we used to play together a lot)
Trisha (the girl in the duel links commercial) Was a host for a GREAT Channel called Sourcefed and Sourcefed nerd. The Sourcefed channel was a news channel it was an off shoot channel to Phillip De Franco and Sourcefed Nerd was a second channel made by some of the host of the first channel
As someone who started with Duel Links and wants to starts getting into the TCG now I'm surprised to hear all this. Even though the Duel Links devs don't actively talk on the Reddit sub we've seen multiple times that they do browse it and they do listen to players' complaints there. Features like surrendering during the opponent's turn, banning/limiting problematic cards, etc. Of course there's a lot of things that people want (better ranking system) that they seem to be stuck on not giving us, but overall it seems like they really do care about it.
WotC does something similar with spoiler weeks ahead of prerelease for a new set. They give cards to members of the community to reveal to the players in the weeks leading up to the set release. It is especially relevant because during prerelease players know what cards are worth playing in a sealed environment and it lets them develop strategies early.
YTDan (the duel links RUclipsr with 18k subs who got a crate) makes some really high quality content sometimes so perhaps that quality was recognized with the crate
Konami is detached because it is not an English company. Even if they are going to reveal cards, they will tell Japanese youtubers to reveal them. It will only work if TCG players get to reveal TCG exclusives. There is a bigger bridge to built for konami because the release dates for products are at different times of the year. Not to mention the different products that are available/unavailable.
+ping chang Konami is detached because they really don't give a shit about you or the community. I know that's hard to hear but it's the truth. You are just a cow for them to milk and they made this clear for years and how they became complete assholes. To them, what's makes you think you're worth their time talking to? You support bad business, you get treated like shit. Look how Konami shit on Kojima and their gaming division. All they care about is shitty gambling machines and that's where they focus is at now and to them, if you don't like how the game is going, you can just fuck out.
Are you the one spouting "muh Kojima" on every Yu-Gi-Oh! vid? Stop with your bullshit. Konami has several departments, and the Konami employees that are in charge of Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG has nothing to do with the video game department of Konami.
YGO and gaming may be handled by different departments, but they bow to the same board. And with how much bad publicity the gaming department has been gaining, I'd pass the word to do some reforms there if I was up there... But they didn't. So they don't see it as a problem.
The higher-ups only say if a brand will be discontinued or not. They do not really influence what each specific department does. You're seeing Konami as a monolithic entity when they're not actually. The Konami that manages the Yu-Gi-Oh! card game can in fact be subdivided into Japanese, America and Europe branch (could be more, but those are what we know for now). Their operations are in fact different. The European division of Konami is actually doing great (interacting w/ community through reddit account, Facebook polls, bringing back traditional format tournament, etc) compared to America's hands-off approach.
Japanese led brands seem to always have major fuck ups in the west and in general be slow to capitalize on opportunities. I think the problem is that they usually have to get approval from the Japanese side before they can really do anything. I suspect either Japanese businesses are very slow to do things or they just don't understand how a change can benefit them overseas and carry on as normal until their ship sinks.
As someone who plays mostly magic and plays yugioh more casually, it is is bizarre to see the difference between Magics "spoiler season" where big names get an exclusive card to reveal a month or so early and then the closest we get with Yugioh is just the odd Facebook post sharing contests
A fellow Duel Links RUclipsr here, who also got a crate from KONAMI (And had only ~11K subscribers when I got it). Clearly the product was a KONAMI US PR thing, intended to promote the beginning of Duel Links' second year and in the words of their PR staff was 'as a thank you for supporting Duel Links this past year'. As Dan said below, they did express to me that they'd be hoping to work closer with content creators in the future and if we needed anything just to reach out to them. It does suck the TCG doesn't seem to get the same treatment, but given how big Duel Links is - and how much of their revenue it accounts for I can see why in this instance they're more focussed on it (which you can also kinda see by them introducing speed duel products to the TCG this year)
A thing worth noting: Konami UK actually did try to collaborate with a Yugituber; Alintheayoh. This was around the time leading up to the release of Invasion Vengeance. From what I understand, he was invited to the Konami HQ in London, and was to film some Deck Profiles featuring the new cards (e.g. Subterrors, Frogs, etc.). However, while he did go to film those videos, he was ultimately shutdown from uploading them. Not by Konami though; someone higher up (potentially N.A.S. TV Tokyo).
+bob bill They don't care. All they care about is Pachinko machines. Look what they did to Kojima and their gaming division. It's not that hard to see why Konami doesn't give a fuck about the community for real.
Konami just doesn't seem to care about the western audience it seems. Can't remember who said it but they put it the best, "If the tcg died they wouldn't care, if the ocg died then they lost their game". Then there's yugioh duel links. How do you create a giant rift within you game then duel links is what you need
+TheKidFawFul I don't know why people keep bitching about Konami. Konami has always been a shitty company. This isn't anything new. Konami is detached because they really don't give a shit about you or the community. I know that's hard to hear but it's the truth. You are just a cow for them to milk and they made this clear for years and how they treat their consumers. To them, what's makes you think you're worth their time talking to? You support bad business, you get treated like shit. Look how Konami shit on Kojima and their gaming division. All they care about is shitty gambling machines and that's where they focus is at now and to them, if you don't like how the game is going, you can just fuck out.
It's crazy how many smaller card games put more effort into presenting or building up excitement for their product. The old "once a month myspace blog post" is just dated.
I believe the reason that they don't reveal sets early in the TCG is because of deals with Shonen Jump magazine (where sets usually get revealed for the OCG) Which still doesn't stop them potentially revealing the TCG(timed)-exclusive cards via the way the hearthstone devs do it.
Konami doesn't understand how to function properly To put it simply, when one of my friends first told me about Metal Gear Survive, I thought he was making a joke about how incompetent they are
The title couldn't be anymore but true. They don't understand the saying: "If it anit broke don't fix it". *Cough* *cough* Link summoning *cough* *cough* Master Rule 4. Like yea it had its issues but it could be easily solved with a banlist. And not making cards like D barrier, VFD, etc.
Your videos, cimooos, Davinators + Yuginono, are all a very interesting lot that i like & frequent primarily because it lets a casual such as myself that while will probably never play championships gives me at least some ghost of what mindset I'd want to carry as a player and how i would want to arrange my deck as a whole. what combos can i pull? How often? What weaknesses? Can i defend said weaknesses and is it worth it? What monster is best suited to be "The final boss"?These are but a few questions I've always asked myself since watching yours and all the others.
Something interesting that Pokemon does for it's prominent PTCGO youtubers is that they give them a PTCGO account that has all the cards as soon as they are released but the cards are locked so they can't use the cards for online trading(yes you can trade cards online on PTCGO). I just thought that this could be an option for duel links youtubers. P.S.: Sorry for grammatical and spelling errors.
He wasn't blaming anyone, he was just wondering why he got it and not people with more subs. Because this is a PR move, it's pointless if not many people get to see this.
The really interesting stuff is that Wizards of the Coast actually does that for Magic the Gathering. About three weeks before a new set releases, spoiler season starts, and so many Magic youtuber get exclusive preview-cards. And podcasters, and artists etc. That should be something Konami can do, but I guess, they are just too distanced from the community to actually care.
Magic The Gathering does the stuff you mentioned hearthstone and others doing as well. They have players that are known on youtube to reveal cards from the set on videos either on the official MTG youtube channel or their own channels.
The problem is that they pass up channels that talk bad about them. They constantly try to fix things by covering it up. Also, link monsters ruined Yu-gi-oh, they are basically required at this point because so many decks rely on their extra deck, they killed pendulum too, and every kind of new special summon mechanic is better than the last with power and consistency.
I have never actually watched that duel links trailer. I can't believe I didn't know Trisha Hershberger was in it. Trish is awesome. If you don't know who she is you should definitely check her out.
Link Summoning and its vast changes to the game (one extra deck monster unless linking in particular) single handedly killed the game for me. Not just me, but everyone who came to the group I used to run of 40+ people, fell that. It was all just way too much.
The card reveal is something that magic does as well, it's pretty cool. I find it weird that Konami has been in the market for so long and still don't understand their players,
This is Komoney you're talking about here! IMO they've actually been making steps in the right direction since Duel Links (I'll admit that the ad was terrible though, but like you said it still reached me and I heard about the game, and then started playing so it did it's job at least). The player surveys they take and seemingly listen to and at least try to understand their playerbase, it's more than they ever used to do. I do agree to some extent though and think Konami should do more serious partnerships (or sponsorships) with the bigger Yugioh channels. Can't think of a better paid ad sponsor on yugioh channels than Konami, but you don't seem to see it.
The title of your videos always comes off as.... not clickbait but aggressive in a way. Then i watch the video and its like a soft plot twist. You bring up good points.
@dzeeff it would be cool if you made a series explaining why some archtypes are "bad" and explain helpful ways of how to improve said archtype kinda like what you did with F.A.s for example in one of your streams you told me that dark magician is bad because it doeant have a win condition and to this day im still confused lol
dpYGO (Yu-Gi-Oh!), who is a YugiTuber, already does the "reviewing new cards that will come to the TCG soon" idea. He's pretty good at reviewing new cards, says the pros and cons of the new cards, and says what Archetype deck, the new card would be useful/good in.
I don’t watch or follow other tcg games too much but my friend and I talk about this kind of stuff a lot. I always bring up Trainer Tips for comparison. He is a Pokémon go channel I’m sure most people are aware of and niantic the company responsible for the game does a great job using his passion and audience as a way to promote and communicate with the player base
Wizards of the Coast gives away cards to RUclips channels to preview, based closely off of what format they specialize in, or related to their channel.
Can you do a video on why konami doesn't release a rule book that covers all the rules? Most of the game seems pretty ambiguous if you were to just go by the rule book given with structure decks.
Yeah, I agree. Sometimes the rules of the card you use can get lost in translation because of the way it's worded. Even worse, some cards that once gave a duelist an edge have horrible errata issues because Konami feels that more is worse or just totally change it to make you think that the new effect of the card is better. I do like Konami, with all due respect to them, but they need to know to leave some things alone.
The thing with YTDan is a pretty poplar DuelLinks Streamer, he´s personally one of the 3 people I follow just for updates on the current environment of DL.
Dkayed (owner of Duel Links Meta) shared with us after the World Championship that Konami has 1 person who speaks Japanese and English who keeps up with the Duel Links community. He follows youtubers, and reads through reddit, then reports back to Konami. It's surprising they seem to have noone fulfilling this role for the TCG.
The exclusive card reveal for youtubers is a thing in MtG which is played in paper so I don't see why Konami can't do the same for tcg exclusive cards. Imagine if dzeeff got to reveal the FA cards himself?
as someone whos apart of the gaming side of youtube as well as a yugioh player,i don't understand the disconnect yugioh players have with thinking konami cares about anything.
Even if they just got ahold of Casuls, improve the terminology, cut down on mechanics- Essentially, I’m saying “Simplify”. I’d be more serious if there was a streamlining overhaul. Otherwise, I’m just gonna keep playing the houserules I’ve been playing fifteen years.
A pretty good review with good references of Konami’s missteps. Another couple of mishandling of the game is the following: Not releasing sets the same time in ocg. Not getting all cards imported to tcg like they did for electrumite and some of link vrains pack cards in EXFO. (Frightfur Patchwork, Number 29: Mannequin Cat) Not extending Shonen Jump Promos to the Euro TCG.
I play duels links exclusively and YTDAN is pretty influential in the meta and has been around for some time. I subsricbe to the tcg channels such as yours for helpful info on certain cards and strats.. that cross over. YTDAN, duel links meta, gunsblazing, shadypenguin, mariozrg, are some of the bigger links streamers.
i wish people would stop beating the dead horse about cash prizes. Takahashi said no cash prizes, so until he changes his mind on that, move on. Play ARG in the US or CCG in europe if you want cash prizes. But Konami can have better prize support overall, thats where the focus needs to be. Point 1:We all assume konami makes lots of money on YCS attendance, but in actuality, they ALWAYS operate at a loss. Simple math: multiply # of attendants times entry fee($20). Usually to rent out a room in a city's convention center takes upwards of $30,000, that does not include security, vending(if applicable). So theoretically each & every YCS has to have a minimum of roughly 1500 in the states to break even. But we know even in the USA(with larger general population than EU or Central/South America)that isn't happening. Salt Lake city YCS had less attendees than regionals in my home state of Texas. So Konami operates at a loss for almost every YCS except big commemorative ycs events like the 75th, 100th, 150th, etc.. Look it up in your own city how much it is to rent out a space for 2-3 days for ygo & you will see that Konami don't make shit off of YCS attendance, period. This is also why there are no live streaming in US YCS events, the logistical nightmare of child consent & privacy laws that vary from convention center to convention center & from state to state in the US & the monetary constraints associated with that. Point 2: What other TCGs give educational scholarships(how do they do it) & can it apply to Yugioh?(though it would me unrealistic to hear Konami give a response on that) Point 3: Giving out the latest gaming console isn't inherently bad(unless you already own it). Point 4: Prize cards, the crush card fiasco back in the SJC days is proof that they aren't putting meta-relevant or busted cards as prize cards anymore. People need to better frame the conversations & concerns in an intelligible manner. Every year the community complains the same about the same thing. We need to unite on a feasible solution that works for all parties involved.
Please do a video on why no one plays Champions vigilance. Blue eyes is pretty popular right now, Dark Magician and red eyes can also use the card. It's basically like having an extra solemn as long as your boss monster is on the field. I get that it's a dead card if you don't have your boss monster on the field but I would think people would still run at least one of them, especially in blue eyes
Champion's Vigilance would only be played if those decks were already playing 3 Strike, 1 Warning, and 1 Judgment, which they're usually not. There just isn't enough room for all those traps
dzeeff gotcha, that was my other assumption-- blue eyes has so much support that you don't wanna sacrifice a card that actually makes plays for you to make room for something like a CV. Thanks man!
The Konami Crew up and coming check them out. Couldn’t agree more on Cyberknight as well he’s a genuine guy and would be a great advocate for Konami. He just loves yugioh.
The mat from the duel links box isn't even worth it as it lacks the link zones and since it has 5 monster and s/t zones it isn't even useable in the upcoming speed format
I think they gave them to channels that don't voice there negative or constructive opinions about konami. Which doesn't make sense since they should listen to the channels that speak facts about improvements needed to better the game
Don’t be talking smack about my boi Dan! Sub wise it might not look it, but he’s like the 3rd-4th biggest DL channel? You have Gunsblazing, Dkayed, and Dan, also Shadypenguinn but like others said, he got 95% of his subs as a Pokémon guy. Definitely not scraping the bottom of the barrel there. But I agree with what you’re saying overall, Konami should be more active in this way. They don’t have the drive of these other companies because of their size.
What I say in this video: Man, it'd be cool if Konami promoted larger channels like Simply Unlucky, Cyberknight, Cimo, Team Aps, Team Samuraix1, and more!
What people heard from this video: Dzeeff wants free cards from Konami and is salty they didn't give them to him!
What casuals hear
Chaos Maxx is garbage
Sounds about right
wally4 golly
there are plenty of valid reasons for him to be salty. only if you paid attention to what he was saying to back up his claim.
Well the title of the video is kinda click-baity, as it is more about the lacking support of TCG-Yugitubers, than Konami not understanding their own product.
I expected stuff like the lack of localization of essential cards of an archetype ("Frightfur Patchwork" & "Subterror Guru"), because they don't get that those might be needed and can sell products, if they are still relevant then.
or stuff like "F.A. Winners", which shows a clear misunderstanding of the archetype.
I heard exactly what you said, you could have a point, but there is a huge difference between your two examples (tcg ygo and heartstone). Blizzard is known for wow. That is crystal clear to all of us. Wow isn t what it used to be, as an income for blizzard, so they released heartstone and it worked(possibly better than they thought). For konami, ygo is just a mere percentage from their income, especially in Europe or usa, so it is only logical for them not to "care" so much or "understand" at all. If ygo starts being the main income for konami, you can make the same discussion again, with much more to talk about. But right now, you were just biased and trying to prove an illogical point (at least from my POV). Keep up the good work.
So about that prize support... 👀
When you can't decide on a position so you post opposing positions on your two channels ;)
It’s like we could be...the same person... 👀
Here Cimoooooooo goes talking to himself again 😐
what prize support? lol It is the lack of prize support that doesn't give players incentives to travel to win regionals/ycs.
I literally just got done watching your prize support vid before checking this one out. Haha, first minute immediate shade is thrown. ;P
While the commercial was cringey and meme-worthy, I understand Konami's logic, from a business stand point.
Duel Links targets a casual, nostalgic audience, primarily. In that regard, casting a Pokemon Go RUclipsr was a stroke of marketing genius. There's probably a lot of overlap between people who fondly remember Pokemon and Yugioh, so if that guy's name cache caught their eye, there was a good chance they would be interested in the product.
Can't justify those bizarre boxes, though.
Konami and missed opportunity, name a more iconic duo
microsoft and missed opportunities
Konami and EA
+bob bill That's the thing. Konami doesn't care. Look how they killed off Metal Gear and Silent Hill. All they care about is gambling machines.
Plus 1 and Negative 9
Ash Forehead CapG and mispronouncing cards
your videos are really interesting to me, even thought i dont play yugioh. thanks for being such a great pack opening channel. i mean great yugituber
HoshiHearts RetroGaming Well put , well put 👍
A lot of concepts in card games are transferable (like card advantage). I find this stuff interesting even though I don't play yugioh.
same actually. I have never played a full game of yugioh but love the content.
I think making everyone happy is possible. It's called unbanning Stratos.
Crazy not really, I want denglong. Dont care about that windy warrior.
tim5fl i don't think he needs an errata. Putting him to 1 will be fine.
Well then, we're gonna be unhappy for a while.
Unban Stratos and unban Denglong. #MakeZefrasGreatAgain
Unban Chaos Emperor Dragon, it has been 84 years
What's going on guys, Bottom of the Barrel, 18kSubs "This Guy" here lol😂. I'll clear things up. As far as I know it was a Duel Links Promo and the Tcg RUclipsrs got them as well, obviously. However it feels like it was more of a 2nd thought than anything else. In my communications with "Konami" they expressed a desire to reach out to DuelLinksTubers and YugiTubers more in 2018 (Whatever that means). Why they choose 1 channel over another I have no idea. BTW Duel links players play and keep up with the TCG meta lol. If they are anything like me, they keep up with the meta by watching channels like these. We also know about Link Monsters as well LMFAO😂
Awesome to hear your insight, I wonder how truthful the "working with more tubers in 2018" will turn out to be.
Also, as I'm sure you probably could tell, I don't actually think you're the "bottom of the barrel," I was more just showing that they passed up multiple 50k+ sub TCG channels for a 18k sub Duel Links channel
dzeeff lol I get the intent. If my skin was that thin I'd be in tears, daily lol. At the end of the day we are all DUELIST! Nice to meet ya, I'm Dan!✌
Just watched your most recent Hazy Flame video. Good stuff, dude
Bottom of the Barrel LUL
My favorite yugi tubers are finally talking! FA my first irl deck in a long time @dzeeff definitely one my favorite archetype! Also @ytdan cyber angel otk my parents too 😭 !
Actually, the structure deck was mostly to promote the vrains anime.
To celebrate vrains' release, everyone got free yugioh vrains themed mat and sleeve in duellinks.
But Duel links players don't watch the anime. They don't play the TCG\OCG. The two games only share the same cards, the games themselves are basicaly seperate.
Marik Zilberman I play both
Once again you got me while shitting. In awe at the timing of this lad.
has it been going on for 3 days straight?
man, you sure had the time of your life during easter
Yeah I did really that guy was a piece of work
He uploaded while I was in the bathroom 2 days in a row a few weeks ago and he did it once today
Your poop cycle and his upload cycle has synched up
This comment is always interesting
What do you mean they passed up Cimoo? Did you see his video titles? "Do not Buy Yu-Gi-Oh products", yeah sure let's send him a crate.
Why would a company interact with someone who literally incentivises their audience to not buy said company's products?
i get what you're saying, but at the same time i'd really hope that if they do see that, that they'd understand where he's coming from as a player and a consumer, and take his criticisms seriously in order to build better packs moving forward. granted, they only have so much control in the tcg since the ocg determines the bulk of each set usually, but they can still control the rarities of cards and when the set releases for the most part, and they have complete control over the non core sets like the legendary collections/decks, star packs, and any time they do something like making the pendulum evolution structure deck a booster set instead.
Cimoo just tells the truth , if a set is garbage , or a ripoff , he will tell you .
Does konami listen? Nope
JokerJack lmao, this is my favorite comment
While it's true that Cimo does that, it's also true that he's targetting a meta sliver of the community with his content hence he will give opinions on product based on how useful it is for the metagame. Surely Konami is well aware when they release product that's not intended for competitive players, and if the only reason for excluding Cimo is something as petty as retaliation for justified criticism, then Konami shows a facet, as a gaming company, that spells more of ruin than success. But since neither of us know for sure this is merely speculation.
There's an MTG RUclipsr that grades MTG product and will grade them harshly for various reasons and WoTC happily works with him.
The opening quip about Konami going bakrupt and Dzeeff being jobless was pretty hilarious.
I think there's a lot of personal wants that people could have from konami for yu-gi-oh, but then there's large pockets that come to agree with wants. Interaction with the player base, rarity bumping (personally I don't care as much on this one), prize support, JUMP promos etc. I think it's fine to voice displeasure, but I also do agree, when they do a good job like Konami Europe does so often, they deserve some props also.
The thing with Konami, like with other large gaming companies like EA, is that they seem to be drifting more and more towards "Get rich quick" schemes rather than keeping to a loyal fan base and actually doing things right by them. It's all about a fast dollar, hence the erratic ban lists, the severe lack of synergy between OCG and TCG releases, and pushing petty apps like Duel Links as opposed to actually paying care and attention to the real life card game.
Personally I had hoped that after the backlash against EA's loot box scam, that it would have been a wake-up call to gaming companies across the board and across gaming mediums. That sadly doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't have anything against DL and it's actually like their best idea in decades even though I rarely play it, it was a good decision. But, the prize support, the mess with Jump Promos that make it seem like there's 3 versions of the game instead of 2 (and reminding people here that initially there was a single banlist but the player base insited on different banlists since OCG got the new stuff first always anyway). This video mentions Blizzard a lot, and they are definitely a large gaming company that is thoughtful about their fans/costumers, even though they are basically trying to make money as well. And although Konami needs to improve a lot in many areas, what the majority of people want isn't always the best, and the proof is that even though being so often and hugely criticised for their decisions (often correctly), Konami is still a big company and raking profits.
The one thing I will say about the Duel Links trailer specifically, they may have looked at how Pokemon GO attracted mostly people who weren't into either the TCG or the video games and attempted to go for a wider audience that might have some kind of nostalgic attachment. It's weird, but I can kind of piece together what the thought process was.
I'm not saying they're actually comparable, but I can see where Konami maybe didn't understand the difference between the two applications like you outlined. Also, bear in mind that dzeef even mentioned that one of the presenters in the ad was a PG youtuber. I think Konami just saw PG as a 90s nostalgia cash grab and figured they could go for that same market. And I don't think it's a huge stretch to say Konami didn't know what made PG successful when people in general seem to have a hard time picking out what made it work so well. I don't think Konami's decision was a good one, I just think you can kind of see the wonky logic behind it.
2:28 that's bizarre seeing Sam McLewee on this channel. (I know him from my competitive pokemon TCG days, he was my age and his brother was my brother's best friend through Pokemon so we used to play together a lot)
Trisha (the girl in the duel links commercial) Was a host for a GREAT Channel called Sourcefed and Sourcefed nerd. The Sourcefed channel was a news channel it was an off shoot channel to Phillip De Franco and Sourcefed Nerd was a second channel made by some of the host of the first channel
I believe the crate was sent to Team APS because both the twins play duel links and say things about duel links
As someone who started with Duel Links and wants to starts getting into the TCG now I'm surprised to hear all this. Even though the Duel Links devs don't actively talk on the Reddit sub we've seen multiple times that they do browse it and they do listen to players' complaints there. Features like surrendering during the opponent's turn, banning/limiting problematic cards, etc. Of course there's a lot of things that people want (better ranking system) that they seem to be stuck on not giving us, but overall it seems like they really do care about it.
danyx1980 Yeah plus they give us a reason why they nerf/ban cards and decks with each list
WotC does something similar with spoiler weeks ahead of prerelease for a new set. They give cards to members of the community to reveal to the players in the weeks leading up to the set release. It is especially relevant because during prerelease players know what cards are worth playing in a sealed environment and it lets them develop strategies early.
They’d rather drink wine every week (or the finest orange juice). Thanks for nothing, Pegasus.
skipping the channels that ever talked trash about konami
On the other news fire is hot
Sad man who plays games People for when they are killed
TheKidFawFul "People die when they are killed" "Just because you are right doesnt mean you are correct!"
Sad man who plays games That's like saying "The archers class really is made up of archers"
speaking as someone who has played video games obsessively for a very long time, I can safely say that Konami doesn't understand ANYTHING
There's only one type of card that Konami is interested in.
HINT: it's green and printed on 2.61 in. x 6.14 in. soft, cotton-fiber paper.
Dang, I guess they're just pretty incompetent...
YTDan (the duel links RUclipsr with 18k subs who got a crate) makes some really high quality content sometimes so perhaps that quality was recognized with the crate
You forgot the best thing about Hearthstone's card revealing. There usually is a stream to reveal the final cards, but ingame. It's awesome.
Castlevania fans have felt this way for awhile about Konami.
they game one of those duel links crates to a youtuber with 10k subs he now has like 13k.
Konami is detached because it is not an English company. Even if they are going to reveal cards, they will tell Japanese youtubers to reveal them. It will only work if TCG players get to reveal TCG exclusives. There is a bigger bridge to built for konami because the release dates for products are at different times of the year. Not to mention the different products that are available/unavailable.
+ping chang Konami is detached because they really don't give a shit about you or the community. I know that's hard to hear but it's the truth. You are just a cow for them to milk and they made this clear for years and how they became complete assholes. To them, what's makes you think you're worth their time talking to? You support bad business, you get treated like shit.
Look how Konami shit on Kojima and their gaming division. All they care about is shitty gambling machines and that's where they focus is at now and to them, if you don't like how the game is going, you can just fuck out.
Are you the one spouting "muh Kojima" on every Yu-Gi-Oh! vid? Stop with your bullshit. Konami has several departments, and the Konami employees that are in charge of Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG has nothing to do with the video game department of Konami.
YGO and gaming may be handled by different departments, but they bow to the same board. And with how much bad publicity the gaming department has been gaining, I'd pass the word to do some reforms there if I was up there... But they didn't. So they don't see it as a problem.
The higher-ups only say if a brand will be discontinued or not. They do not really influence what each specific department does. You're seeing Konami as a monolithic entity when they're not actually. The Konami that manages the Yu-Gi-Oh! card game can in fact be subdivided into Japanese, America and Europe branch (could be more, but those are what we know for now). Their operations are in fact different. The European division of Konami is actually doing great (interacting w/ community through reddit account, Facebook polls, bringing back traditional format tournament, etc) compared to America's hands-off approach.
Japanese led brands seem to always have major fuck ups in the west and in general be slow to capitalize on opportunities. I think the problem is that they usually have to get approval from the Japanese side before they can really do anything. I suspect either Japanese businesses are very slow to do things or they just don't understand how a change can benefit them overseas and carry on as normal until their ship sinks.
Konami knows what they are doing. They want to make money, and they engineer sets and packs and decks to do that.
As someone who plays mostly magic and plays yugioh more casually, it is is bizarre to see the difference between Magics "spoiler season" where big names get an exclusive card to reveal a month or so early and then the closest we get with Yugioh is just the odd Facebook post sharing contests
A fellow Duel Links RUclipsr here, who also got a crate from KONAMI (And had only ~11K subscribers when I got it). Clearly the product was a KONAMI US PR thing, intended to promote the beginning of Duel Links' second year and in the words of their PR staff was 'as a thank you for supporting Duel Links this past year'. As Dan said below, they did express to me that they'd be hoping to work closer with content creators in the future and if we needed anything just to reach out to them.
It does suck the TCG doesn't seem to get the same treatment, but given how big Duel Links is - and how much of their revenue it accounts for I can see why in this instance they're more focussed on it (which you can also kinda see by them introducing speed duel products to the TCG this year)
A thing worth noting: Konami UK actually did try to collaborate with a Yugituber; Alintheayoh. This was around the time leading up to the release of Invasion Vengeance. From what I understand, he was invited to the Konami HQ in London, and was to film some Deck Profiles featuring the new cards (e.g. Subterrors, Frogs, etc.). However, while he did go to film those videos, he was ultimately shutdown from uploading them. Not by Konami though; someone higher up (potentially N.A.S. TV Tokyo).
Konami doesn't understand it's customers.
+NeonRogue Konami doesn't give a fuck about you or the community. It's that simple.
NeonRogue The sky is BLUE!? NANI!?11!
+bob bill They don't care. All they care about is Pachinko machines. Look what they did to Kojima and their gaming division. It's not that hard to see why Konami doesn't give a fuck about the community for real.
Anyone remember that Yugioh Arc V dub promotion where they got Jeff Jones to say Performapals were the best cards in the gane?
Konami just doesn't seem to care about the western audience it seems. Can't remember who said it but they put it the best, "If the tcg died they wouldn't care, if the ocg died then they lost their game".
Then there's yugioh duel links. How do you create a giant rift within you game then duel links is what you need
+TheKidFawFul I don't know why people keep bitching about Konami. Konami has always been a shitty company. This isn't anything new. Konami is detached because they really don't give a shit about you or the community. I know that's hard to hear but it's the truth. You are just a cow for them to milk and they made this clear for years and how they treat their consumers. To them, what's makes you think you're worth their time talking to? You support bad business, you get treated like shit.
Look how Konami shit on Kojima and their gaming division. All they care about is shitty gambling machines and that's where they focus is at now and to them, if you don't like how the game is going, you can just fuck out.
It's crazy how many smaller card games put more effort into presenting or building up excitement for their product.
The old "once a month myspace blog post" is just dated.
They take pot of greed off the ban list, and then put pot of desires on the ban list
You probably have been April fooled lol
Or you are trying to April fool the ones Who are reading your comment
I cant tell
Ben Solves Why take off the neg 9 if you’re putting on neg 9?
Ben Solves that might be the most retarded thing ive ever heard
Konami IS the Pot of Greed
And the things we want is the pot of desires...
but ytdan is better than you. its cause he is dank.
Andres you too can be dank like him by using this simple trick: copy gunsblazing
I believe the reason that they don't reveal sets early in the TCG is because of deals with Shonen Jump magazine (where sets usually get revealed for the OCG) Which still doesn't stop them potentially revealing the TCG(timed)-exclusive cards via the way the hearthstone devs do it.
Konami doesn't understand how to function properly
To put it simply, when one of my friends first told me about Metal Gear Survive, I thought he was making a joke about how incompetent they are
Konami is like your grandma who thinks bottle catching is popular.
The title couldn't be anymore but true. They don't understand the saying: "If it anit broke don't fix it". *Cough* *cough* Link summoning *cough* *cough* Master Rule 4. Like yea it had its issues but it could be easily solved with a banlist. And not making cards like D barrier, VFD, etc.
Your videos, cimooos, Davinators + Yuginono, are all a very interesting lot that i like & frequent primarily because it lets a casual such as myself that while will probably never play championships gives me at least some ghost of what mindset I'd want to carry as a player and how i would want to arrange my deck as a whole. what combos can i pull? How often? What weaknesses? Can i defend said weaknesses and is it worth it? What monster is best suited to be "The final boss"?These are but a few questions I've always asked myself since watching yours and all the others.
Something interesting that Pokemon does for it's prominent PTCGO youtubers is that they give them a PTCGO account that has all the cards as soon as they are released but the cards are locked so they can't use the cards for online trading(yes you can trade cards online on PTCGO). I just thought that this could be an option for duel links youtubers.
P.S.: Sorry for grammatical and spelling errors.
Why you blame ma boi YTDAN???He is the dankest duelist ever born ma boi
dude you feel me!!! this video had me like "NANI!" ytdan deserves way more repect!
He wasn't blaming anyone, he was just wondering why he got it and not people with more subs. Because this is a PR move, it's pointless if not many people get to see this.
The really interesting stuff is that Wizards of the Coast actually does that for Magic the Gathering. About three weeks before a new set releases, spoiler season starts, and so many Magic youtuber get exclusive preview-cards. And podcasters, and artists etc. That should be something Konami can do, but I guess, they are just too distanced from the community to actually care.
The only time I've seen Konami get prominent real-life yugioh players to advertise for them was when they got Jeff Jones to talk about Arc-V
Magic The Gathering does the stuff you mentioned hearthstone and others doing as well. They have players that are known on youtube to reveal cards from the set on videos either on the official MTG youtube channel or their own channels.
The problem is that they pass up channels that talk bad about them. They constantly try to fix things by covering it up. Also, link monsters ruined Yu-gi-oh, they are basically required at this point because so many decks rely on their extra deck, they killed pendulum too, and every kind of new special summon mechanic is better than the last with power and consistency.
I have never actually watched that duel links trailer.
I can't believe I didn't know Trisha Hershberger was in it.
Trish is awesome. If you don't know who she is you should definitely check her out.
Konami doesn't understand how one of its flagship products works... Shocking
hey dzeef could you do a video of which extra deck mechanics
is the best from your perspective?
Link Summoning and its vast changes to the game (one extra deck monster unless linking in particular) single handedly killed the game for me. Not just me, but everyone who came to the group I used to run of 40+ people, fell that. It was all just way too much.
Days since last mention of Legendary Collection Kaiba: 0
I beleive they added the Link structure deck to the box to pull that person into the real game.
The card reveal is something that magic does as well, it's pretty cool. I find it weird that Konami has been in the market for so long and still don't understand their players,
This is Komoney you're talking about here! IMO they've actually been making steps in the right direction since Duel Links (I'll admit that the ad was terrible though, but like you said it still reached me and I heard about the game, and then started playing so it did it's job at least). The player surveys they take and seemingly listen to and at least try to understand their playerbase, it's more than they ever used to do. I do agree to some extent though and think Konami should do more serious partnerships (or sponsorships) with the bigger Yugioh channels. Can't think of a better paid ad sponsor on yugioh channels than Konami, but you don't seem to see it.
The title of your videos always comes off as.... not clickbait but aggressive in a way. Then i watch the video and its like a soft plot twist. You bring up good points.
I would love to see Simply Unlucky doing a Duel Links commercial. XD
@dzeeff it would be cool if you made a series explaining why some archtypes are "bad" and explain helpful ways of how to improve said archtype kinda like what you did with F.A.s for example in one of your streams you told me that dark magician is bad because it doeant have a win condition and to this day im still confused lol
dpYGO (Yu-Gi-Oh!), who is a YugiTuber, already does the "reviewing new cards that will come to the TCG soon" idea. He's pretty good at reviewing new cards, says the pros and cons of the new cards, and says what Archetype deck, the new card would be useful/good in.
OHHHH DZEEF THROWING SHAAAAAADE!!!! THIS IS WHY I SUB TO YOU! NO FILTER, NO CENSOR, NO MERCY!
Konami is doing a very poor job of managing YuGiOh.
Someone get this man a Duel Links crate
Ignis Heat burnt my wallet.
The card reveal thing is also applicable to Clash Royale in the past
I don’t watch or follow other tcg games too much but my friend and I talk about this kind of stuff a lot. I always bring up Trainer Tips for comparison. He is a Pokémon go channel I’m sure most people are aware of and niantic the company responsible for the game does a great job using his passion and audience as a way to promote and communicate with the player base
Its Konami, they don't really care unless it involves with pachinko.
The ad just cancelled out and didn't play! What the hell!
Wizards of the Coast gives away cards to RUclips channels to preview, based closely off of what format they specialize in, or related to their channel.
Can you do a video on why konami doesn't release a rule book that covers all the rules? Most of the game seems pretty ambiguous if you were to just go by the rule book given with structure decks.
Yeah, I agree. Sometimes the rules of the card you use can get lost in translation because of the way it's worded. Even worse, some cards that once gave a duelist an edge have horrible errata issues because Konami feels that more is worse or just totally change it to make you think that the new effect of the card is better. I do like Konami, with all due respect to them, but they need to know to leave some things alone.
The thing with YTDan is a pretty poplar DuelLinks Streamer, he´s personally one of the 3 people I follow just for updates on the current environment of DL.
5:39 in fairness to team APS those at 30-40% of their content is opening packs and products so Konami may have noticed and thought makes sense.
Well Azneyes lives 2 hours from LA and Simply Unlucky lives 5 hours from LA. I'm sure either of them could have done the Duel Links trailer.
Yeah the only thing keeping them afloat did they know how they know how I messed
Dkayed (owner of Duel Links Meta) shared with us after the World Championship that Konami has 1 person who speaks Japanese and English who keeps up with the Duel Links community. He follows youtubers, and reads through reddit, then reports back to Konami. It's surprising they seem to have noone fulfilling this role for the TCG.
The new Dzeeff meme: "I'm not a harthstone channel"
What the title says: Fuck Konami.
What he says: I want to help Konami connect with RUclips.
They just dont wanna listen to the crowd
The exclusive card reveal for youtubers is a thing in MtG which is played in paper so I don't see why Konami can't do the same for tcg exclusive cards. Imagine if dzeeff got to reveal the FA cards himself?
It's cool to see How Konami improved on pretty much all of those points
as someone whos apart of the gaming side of youtube as well as a yugioh player,i don't understand the disconnect yugioh players have with thinking konami cares about anything.
What i hate about yugioh is how konami insists on nerfing cards instead of printing nerfed versions like other tcgs or even them in the past have.
Even if they just got ahold of Casuls, improve the terminology, cut down on mechanics-
Essentially, I’m saying “Simplify”. I’d be more serious if there was a streamlining overhaul. Otherwise, I’m just gonna keep playing the houserules I’ve been playing fifteen years.
A pretty good review with good references of Konami’s missteps. Another couple of mishandling of the game is the following:
Not releasing sets the same time in ocg.
Not getting all cards imported to tcg like they did for electrumite and some of link vrains pack cards in EXFO. (Frightfur Patchwork, Number 29: Mannequin Cat)
Not extending Shonen Jump Promos to the Euro TCG.
Dzeeff is throwing mad shade in this video 😂
Looking forward for that juicy FA combo build ;)
I play duels links exclusively and YTDAN is pretty influential in the meta and has been around for some time. I subsricbe to the tcg channels such as yours for helpful info on certain cards and strats.. that cross over. YTDAN, duel links meta, gunsblazing, shadypenguin, mariozrg, are some of the bigger links streamers.
i wish people would stop beating the dead horse about cash prizes. Takahashi said no cash prizes, so until he changes his mind on that, move on. Play ARG in the US or CCG in europe if you want cash prizes. But Konami can have better prize support overall, thats where the focus needs to be. Point 1:We all assume konami makes lots of money on YCS attendance, but in actuality, they ALWAYS operate at a loss. Simple math: multiply # of attendants times entry fee($20). Usually to rent out a room in a city's convention center takes upwards of $30,000, that does not include security, vending(if applicable). So theoretically each & every YCS has to have a minimum of roughly 1500 in the states to break even. But we know even in the USA(with larger general population than EU or Central/South America)that isn't happening. Salt Lake city YCS had less attendees than regionals in my home state of Texas. So Konami operates at a loss for almost every YCS except big commemorative ycs events like the 75th, 100th, 150th, etc.. Look it up in your own city how much it is to rent out a space for 2-3 days for ygo & you will see that Konami don't make shit off of YCS attendance, period. This is also why there are no live streaming in US YCS events, the logistical nightmare of child consent & privacy laws that vary from convention center to convention center & from state to state in the US & the monetary constraints associated with that. Point 2: What other TCGs give educational scholarships(how do they do it) & can it apply to Yugioh?(though it would me unrealistic to hear Konami give a response on that) Point 3: Giving out the latest gaming console isn't inherently bad(unless you already own it). Point 4: Prize cards, the crush card fiasco back in the SJC days is proof that they aren't putting meta-relevant or busted cards as prize cards anymore. People need to better frame the conversations & concerns in an intelligible manner. Every year the community complains the same about the same thing. We need to unite on a feasible solution that works for all parties involved.
What I keep hearing: Konami activates Bad Aim and chains Oops!
Please do a video on why no one plays Champions vigilance. Blue eyes is pretty popular right now, Dark Magician and red eyes can also use the card. It's basically like having an extra solemn as long as your boss monster is on the field. I get that it's a dead card if you don't have your boss monster on the field but I would think people would still run at least one of them, especially in blue eyes
Champion's Vigilance would only be played if those decks were already playing 3 Strike, 1 Warning, and 1 Judgment, which they're usually not. There just isn't enough room for all those traps
dzeeff gotcha, that was my other assumption-- blue eyes has so much support that you don't wanna sacrifice a card that actually makes plays for you to make room for something like a CV.
Thanks man!
The Konami Crew up and coming check them out. Couldn’t agree more on Cyberknight as well he’s a genuine guy and would be a great advocate for Konami. He just loves yugioh.
At least they understand wahmen. That's why Trickstars haven't been hit. 👸
Yet.
f. g hell yeah
The mat from the duel links box isn't even worth it as it lacks the link zones and since it has 5 monster and s/t zones it isn't even useable in the upcoming speed format
How about Guns Blazing got one? Maybe because he is not considered a tcg player? So he is not included in this video.
The Hearthstone card reveals happens in MTG too, fam
I think they gave them to channels that don't voice there negative or constructive opinions about konami. Which doesn't make sense since they should listen to the channels that speak facts about improvements needed to better the game
Don’t be talking smack about my boi Dan! Sub wise it might not look it, but he’s like the 3rd-4th biggest DL channel? You have Gunsblazing, Dkayed, and Dan, also Shadypenguinn but like others said, he got 95% of his subs as a Pokémon guy.
Definitely not scraping the bottom of the barrel there. But I agree with what you’re saying overall, Konami should be more active in this way. They don’t have the drive of these other companies because of their size.
My guess is that the disconnect lies somewhere in the difference between eastern and western culture