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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2020
- Season 11 Episode 5: The Roman Fort That Wasn't There
Nobody knows what happened immediately after the Romans arrived in 43 AD, because no Roman fort has been discovered in this part of South East England. Time Team are on a mission to find the missing link. Local archaeologist Paul Wilkinson believes he has already found a military ditch, which would surround such a fort. It's a prime site, right next to Watling Street. However geophysics cannot find any evidence for a ditch. Join the Time Team for another dig into Britain's history.
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Am I the only one who spends the whole episode waiting for Phil to say "Ooo arr"?
Lol gotta love Phil:)
hopefully he don't bed over to far hahahahahaha
that and "Stone the crows!"
Every Episode.
Or they’ve found somat’ interestin’.
I love it when Tony says "Here's the idiot's guide to Roman forts", and the pamphlet is clearly titled "Tony's guide".
gosh, in the 20 yrs or so of watching this show on and off, its the first time ive heard geophiz explained like that and i understood it.
I absolutely ADORE the expertise of the scientists on this show. They can pick up the smallest dirtiest piece of pottery and immediately know where it was manufactured, with what materials and the entire shape and size of the vessel it belonged to. Blows my mind and gives me goosebumps lol
I mean that tends to be what happens on scripted shows where you have a bunch of paid actors.... you really thing that the 5-6 people you see every episode are really the ones actually doing the work? 😂🤣😂🤣
@@richardgrace4500 they all have (had) doctorates in their various fields of expertise; they weren’t doing all the work but they certainly analyzed some of the finds
Indeed... I agree. As a hobby potter, I often giggle at the thought that centuries from now, some Time Teamer will pick up my scraps and determine that it's definitely a 'Dessie pot- circa 2022!'
@Richard whatever makes you think they didn't? These are real archaeologists, doing real work. Fought like hell against scripting and multiple takes, too.
I love the pub scene. It’s shows the team as real people.
Lovely to see Brigid pop up very briefly in this episode, I'm guessing she wasn't yet part of the main inner circle of archaeologists at this point.
46:44 I am pretty sure that's a plumb line weight from a groma, which was a Roman surveying instrument. They even had one on an episode at some point used by reenactors in a race against modern equipment.
Haha! Yes, indeed it is. Although I know this tool from using them as a carpenter, and didn't know the name of the Roman tool before. Thank You. I actually just left a big comment about them (and a couple of other tools), but I'm years late, so I'll copy/paste it here where someone might read it instead..
46:41 Pretty sure that's a "plumb bob." (see OP's comment for the actual tool and name used by the Romans. The basic tool hasn't changed in two millennia though), Not sure if they're called that in Britain, but you attach a length of string to the top, and they're used to build walls and other structures "plumb" (perfectly vertical).
You hold the string up where the top of your structure is, until that pointed end swings freely just above the floor, then after you get the plumb bob to stop swinging, you make a mark on the floor exactly below where that tip is.
It's a bit similar to the levels the ancients used where a string hangs with the same type of bob in front of a wooden triangle. Those can also have set angles marked on them so they can be used to build correct angles as well.
Sometimes carpenters and masons still use plumb bobs today. I always had one because I was a carpenter, then a cabinet builder and woodworker for 3 decades.
It's funny because people often can't understand how the ancients could build the things they did, but they had most of the same hand tools we do, so it just took them longer is all. It's also great to know about these things as a builder even now, because they're easy to build if you happen to not have a modern level or protractor, etc.
One last trick, since I'm going on about them: water finds it's own level. The ancients could make massive but perfectly level structures by digging a trench and filling it with water.
A modern quick fix if one doesn't have a transit, is a long clear tube filled with water. The first time I was shown this was for leveling the courses of shingles on a large house we were remodeling. Simply have one person hold one end, and another person hold the other end of the hose against the corners of the wall, and make a mark at the waterline when the water has found it's level (stopped moving). Then use a chalk line to connect the two points.
This is incredibly entertaining and informative at the same time. Shows passionate people doing what they love, with a lot od humor and self awesomeness.
I think Phil set Tony up just right with the "little fella" crack. Of course the "little fella," (Rick) isn't going to have a comment when Tony asked, "Did he just call you "little fella?" He just half groaned, half grunted in frustration. (He values his paycheck too much!) Then Tony said, "Shall we deck him?" Then the laugh fest was on. Then Tony finished, "At least we're not super anurated old hippies!" (Anurated?? Hmm.) Thus setting Phil in his place for once. Everyone was laughing in typical but classic TT Style. This classic good natured banter is what makes Time Team special for all of us. GO TIME TEAM!!!
Superannuated - old and obsolete
I could have sworn i'd seen every episode of TT at least once, yet i've missed this one somehow. Too bad the audio is screwed up. I'm also disappointed that the baby wasn't introduced.
As i watch these now that i'm over 60 & am dealing with joints & back issues, i find my focus has shifted from what it was when i first watched decades ago. I can't help being preoccupied with just how much physical labor is involved. As an episode progresses, my knees & back begin to ache from just thinking about it, lol.
where can you get them all? i really want to watch them.
@@frustin There are a few channels that have them & there's actually a Time Team channel. A quick search should find them for you. Hope you enjoy getting to know the different members of the team.
You really start to notice Phil adding safety equipment as the show goes on.
Great HD video, sound mix is corrupted, but I'll take this over 240p any day.
I love your series, it makes archaeology exiting! Your staff are so enthusiastic and I enjoy all the quibbling and comments. In Hawaii we have so little to search for because our history is so young and we are on lava with not very forgiving weather to preserve much other than stone items. Thank you for all you do.
They have an American series as well and HAVE done some shows on Hawaii. You should look into that!! I think it's 'TimeTeam America' but I could be wrong
the sound seems to be messed up. Frequently when someone is talking, Tony is doing a voice over narration, making it difficult to follow.
Yep. The sound mix is off.
Download the video and play it with Classic Media player. YOu can adjust sound to fit. Or just find the video somewhere else on youtube.
typical Tony, speaking right trough everybody hahaha
@@limafive I think the programme would be better without his comments. He chops everyone to pieces and does nothing to contribute to the dig.
It's done because the interview material is bad, with said person going off on a tangent of details.
You don't want to listen to a 2 hour documentary of tangent, you want to keep the core message. So lower the volume and narrate over it.
Digital audio compression problems again, when you convert Broadcast TV to RUclips formats. This is why Tony's voice overs are swamped by background audio - all sound levels are equalized in the conversion.
Thanks for explaining that.
I really like that Tony still get some Tv work after Black Adder back in the 80s. I like his voice as a tv presenter.
Someone did really bad audio mixing on this.
Critical Role Highlights -- Sounds fine to me...
I agree, Baldric is talking, or trying to, over the top of others... so really, you hear no one except gibberish.
Yes, the audio is simply awful. The video editing is quite bad too. And it's not just this episode. As a cultural historian, I think that perhaps what we have here is an example of Time Team: The Much-Too-Much Cocaine Years.
@@stevenbollinger9776 lol
@@stevenbollinger9776 Yeah, there's a period where Time Team had a lot of audio issues, some video issues, and I felt some episodes lacked focus. I think it was around the early 2000s (2002 being the worst of it).
Am so hooked on Time Team videos I've been neglecting my housework and, heaven forbid, my dog!
Lol too true! I listen and watch while walking now 😂
I wonder if the Roman soldier using the space, wasn't the one removing the loose dirt.
But considering that there are questions regarding where the Norman invasion actually occurred, it would not be difficult to believe the first Roman fort location might be unknown.
I always loved this program, it was interesting and those crazy archaeologists were real characters, that something missing from modern ctupid brainless selfish celeb bassed TV shite. Well done Time Team thanks for many many years of good telly. Nice share thanks
Did anyone else notice the baby bottle sitting next to the pints of beer? 34:43
Are you able to make more of these episodes available in Australia? This was my favourite show as a kid
Also a VPN/proxy (free ones for most browsers) will let you avoid any regional restrictions.
You guyz are to funny! What a wonderful show!
For me Stewart is the secret hero of time team.
need to get back on tv miss watching time team on a sunday at 6pm
This is a great show. Love it
This could be the title of 50% of Time Team episodes.
😂 😂 😂
love there is a random baby in the pub scene 🤣
That’s Carenza’s daughter. She was pregnant in season 10.
Love this series.
One cold foggy UK morning...
Phil: right we gonna find a Roman fort today?
Two thousand years earlier.....
Legionnare: fuck I am glad to be off that boat let's build some stuff.
I can see it all clear as day...
The audio mixing is absolutely terrible, often with three voices at similar volumes simultaneously. Did you let the intern do it?
Hey Jeff let me know what you think, please , ice age farmer , YT t y
i was just gonna comment on the mixing. i wonder if they remastered the video from the orginal digital stuff, and just didnt check their work very well
thats how some of the epsiodes were on tv at 21 min mark see what you mean
This was not uploaded by anyone involved with channel 4 or Time Team, and not by anyone that would have an intern, it was probably up-loaded from a dvd rip and some one that has no idea screwed with the sound before it was!
That's British sound mixing for you. It's all over the place - audience covering the panelists on many of the comedy shows. Can hardly hear anyone speaking anything anywhere.
This was a really, really good one.. realistic!
That Roman shovel-not-shovel would be great for clearing couch grass.
What a great program
Aw I wanted to see Tony in Roman armor too ☹️ very interesting
Well he does apear in roman style clothing in Black Adder Back and Forth, with Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry.
Jaceric2 perfect! Thx 😀
@@lisaenglert3202 Alltho i should warn you, its a comedy movie, so it is not a historacly accuret depiction.
It seemed to me that at the beginning of the programme that Tony was confusing the first Roman fort ever built in Britannia with the first Roman camp. The first Roman camp would have been constructed a day’s march from the landing site, as he says, but this camp would then have been taken down the next day as the army continued its march westwards.
in the days, it seems the Roman army often built intermediate mini-forts as fortified camps after a days march...
the insides would be those of a camp, no permanent structures, but a standard encampment still had an earth bank with some form of a sharpened stakes defense palisade, & a shallow often double ditch....
Tony had a special program on it, I think it was done as part of his Time-Specials series.
I don't see anyone else saying anything, but the soundtracks are going on top of each other in several places. Tony's going on while the group discusses something. The captions are usually Tony. Someone needs to fix this since I image it would be off-putting for the curious not-yet-fan.
Did he call you a little person, shall we deck him pmsl
The sound was great.
A really interesting episode, loved it
Sound is fine for me!
Damn it, I wanted an early occupation Roman fort!! 😫
IT"S THERE ...3 days just wasn't long enough .... but why did they wait for 3/4 of day 1 for geophys result .... like at least scratch something
How about to digs here in Finland? Oldest Kingdom here up North?
Matt sure looks young in this one, talking to Carenza at the pub.
Phil is so cool
Good to see Martin the Optio in his prime
Wonderful, no as interruptions
While I was certainly convinced that the fort wasn't there, there were a few things I was left wondering about by the end. First, what was the date of that "embankment" vs. Watling St.? I don't recall getting an answer to that and I was curious. Second, I admit I agree with Dan (?) that his ditch did look very military in nature, and the very randomness of the various ditches in type and date, does make me wonder if at some point there was somewhere nearby military activity. TT may just have had the misfortune to be digging in the wrong spot where for the most part there was a Roman farm. Or perhaps that from the start, the assumptions about the fort have been all wrong. That it was more of a temporary marching camp. Up long enough to get people and cargo through to a point more inland, and taken down again afterwards a few weeks later. Leaving some odd remnants of ditches for a farmer later to reuse.
I had the idea that it may have been an early invasion satellite marching camp, sited to keep look-out over the area with the main force encamped below. Given the large force involved there would have had to have been a number of discreet camps.
ditch plus palisade = defence ....why not look for post holes while they were there
One Part, prows can found from Swedish colleegs. Greetings from Finland.
The soil always looks good. I wonder why theres so few trees? Lucky you dont have to dig through all those roots.
Phil cheers me up! The man is as Genuine as any human comes and I like him, even with his unique accent - I could aliken to a close sound to the East Tennessee Mountain Folk. 😁
They're normally some good people too - if they haven't been stewed too long in Evangelical Fundamentalism till they start that Judging stuff!
Mercy - keep a Positive Thought!
National Treasures every one of them, people are the real wealth of any Nation. Audio? If you expect perfection from people, you will always be disappointed. None of us are perfect, interesting is more important anyway. These people are always interesting! Sadly some of them are no longer with us, all things must pass in their own time.
Its a lot like the down east, carolina hoi toide accent. Its a West Country or original pronunciation accent in England. Mountain talk has some OP with scots-irish influence
@@scruffmcgruff03 It's a *Wiltshire* accent similar to some other west country accents.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532i am aware its the same accent in a few parts of Colonial America. Its also called OP or original pronunciation and English used to sound that way across the nation. But thanks i agree.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 research the outer banks brogue or hoi toide accent. Very west country. My grandparents on my mothers side spoke this way. On my fathers side had a Virgina/Tennessee mountain accent which has many many similarities to differnt english accents and scots-irish / ulster scots influence.
Is there a reason that it went from middle of season 3 strait in to season 11 after the channel uploaded every episode from season 1,2 and halfway season 3 in numerical order?
I don't know why this is but *Reijer Zaaijer* and *Fillask* have posted many more episodes, all of them in fact.
At least we're not superannuated old hippies... Well played :P
Soooo....apart from looking at the bank and ditches, what was on the flat internal area? I get that the gardens would have removed any walls but not everything.
Most likely tents, the demonstrated walls were out of earth with wood spikes and the door house, towers from wood and they mentioned the fort was only used for some weeks before they moved on to conqer
Also there should be an area to keep the elephants and feed them.
Episode 112 (Season 11, Episode 5): The Roman Fort That Wasn't There, Aired: February 1, 2004
Good episode but a huge pity regarding the sound! It seems to be a common occurrence with these time team videos.
It's just this channel. The audio is fine in this episode on other YT channels.
Crenzas baby is adorable. Go for smart working moms.
Sound is fine for me.
You need to listen closer to the over dubbing
In later days of the Western Roman Empire, the building of marching forts fell out of fashion with the Roman legions. Just guards, trenched-around camping area, and pointed sticks.
Wouldn't the fort have been built much closer if not adjacent to the beachhead where they brought in supplies?, unless there was defenses there as well.
heh , Stewart compares the shape to a cricket bat, the Yorkshire unit of measure
The find at 48:43 also looks like a plumb bob to me ..especially with the pointed end on it.
I think you're right. Google says they've been used since at least ancient Egyptian times, and looking at images of Roman examples there are definite similarities.
Oohh Corenza has a kid, cute :D :D
Well that just ruined their tourist drawcard
I'm Time Team mark 2
West Country Clegg.
Sometimes I can hear Tony very well but other times I can hardly hear and understand what he says. Otherwise I really enjoy watching the Time Team.
I mean I pretty much turn down the volume (all the way down) any time he speaks because odds are whatever he says is going to be completely useless and moronic but what do you expect from a paid life long actor who really serves no purpose on the show other than to read off of a script because he has ZERO clue what is going on or what people are doing or saying which is why they always have to talk to him like he is an idiot
I spy a future archaeoligist, 34 minutes in! 😻
The audio seems off. Tony will get really quiet when he's doing the voice over, then, once he's done, the audio randomly gets loud again. When he's doing voice over while others are talking, his voice is too soft to hear and the conversation he's supposed to be speaking over is too loud. They mix together and trying to follow what either is saying is really hard to do. I'm sorry but, with the hearing troubles I already have, and with the audio not being what it should, I can't understand what's going on, nor can I enjoy this episode at all :(
he wernt quite during voice over
I was trying to watch all the episodes in chronological order. The problem is that when I finished watching the E04S03 I looked for the logical next one, but it seems that it's not uploaded and the next one in your list of uploaded videos is this, so al the seasons between the third and the eleventh are missed in this channel. Is this so, or I didn't make the search correctly?
The scientists are cool!
I would think they had one guy using the spade to break into the ground and a guy with a basket removing the loose soil
May have been a temporary Roman camp. Tents and ditches ,with wood/brush ramparts, all torn down when they left and moved on??? Wouldn't leave much archaeology to find.
Poor John lol. Phil lmao... don’t run off yet
Why wouldn't the Roman fort at that location be under the current farm house at that location - highest point and relatively flat?
that's what I just typed in ( sort of )
Maybe I'm missing something but if I'd picked an anchorage for my fleet that contained my supplies I'd fortify that. Sure the fleet could always move but I'm going to need those supplies some of which need to be unloaded so the ships can return to the mainland and pick up more. I'd want a fresh water supply. Dig a trench and some walls tall enough to be an obstacle made out of whatever was handy. I wouldn't move inland till I had my arse covered. To me that's just basic tactics. Not claiming that's what they did. I guess I need to read up on that.
Totally. I wouldn't be surprised if the fort was in that area despite the issues, but maybe just a bit off of the hill it was said to be on. After all, it's rolling country so the fort could be on the other side of the road... or it could be under houses we see near the trenches in the aerial shots, etc.
I don't know if you can ever find the FIRST fort. When you invade a place, you're not going to put up anything permanent, ecause you're still sussing out the landscape. I'd imagine that the first "forts" for some time are more likely to be encampments -- bivouacs that are easily put up and torn down, and less likely to survive.
I had a thought, no use now. The moon is gradually moving away from the earth, resulting over time in longer days. I think the difference between now and 2000 years ago is about an hour? So, maybe the first fort is an hour away? Just putting that out there.
When I watch these vids... I feel like the excavator-operators. Head on palm, bewildered look. WTF are they talking about?!
Ahah
They appreciate the easy day and watching the goings on.
OMG, I WANT THE SAMIAN BIRD BOWL!!!
It kinda bums me out that the videos jumped from season 3 to season 11 starting with this video. Everyone ages in a matter of seconds! LOL
Dear Time team, I was wondering if you looked into the plowed field across the road. From the air you can see a wide mass that heads towards the hill you were digging on. I know you didn't have long on this site or any of the others you have been on but i think you are focusing too hard on the site where you have been digging and should be focusing on what it means. Clearly there are ditches, which i am sure you could have seen by the aerial shots in the helicopter. To see things by air is almost a guarantee that the ditches were in place but the trenches the diggers uncovered also brought forward the various pieces of pottery used during the roman invasion. But there was a road that was obviously part of the settlement on the other side of the road in the plowed field. instead of moving across the site you should have been going lower on the site this is where the geo people come in to survey that area as opposed to the areas you were digging in It is great that the bits of pottery you found and the other items can date the site but more is needed to make a complete picture of what the site was at the time the romans invaded Britain. It could have been a place that was used as a market place by the Brits or even by the Romans. I am sure the romans had slaves after a while to dig the ditches for then rather than the lower ranking soldiers would have dug earlier, slaves were used for various jobs from pandering to house owners whims to digging ditches and building structures for the Romans. it still could be a Roman settlement with the soldiers camped out on the other side of the road with a road leading to the settlement for goods and services for the garrisons of soldiers of the Roman empire.
Waz here 2020
Why are so few videos available in the UK? Is this genuine TT material?
Search for channels belonging to Reijer Zaaijer and Fillask, between them they have all 20 seasons including all 100+ time team specials ;)
Where is your posing pouch?
The elephants came with Cladius not before
Plus Juilus Ceasar built the 1st Roman forts in Brotian
Perhaps Phil Harding is a bit older than the usual young guys :)
But what happened with the elephants ? I’ve never seen T T dig elephant bones from Roman sites.
With the utmost respect and love Steve Irwin and Maurice Moulterd had a son his name was Phil
I wonder what happened to all the elephants??
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They used baskets for the soil, Didnt they?
At 47 minutes, it's not a weight for a scale: It's a plumb.
I'd love to see those elephants on a Roman ship...!
The sound guy from hell is back. He need to get a other job in line with his competence.
And you need English lessons
@@jordanh5312 how so? The only correction I spotted was they used an "a", when they should have used an "an".
@@jordanh5312 If you notice his name, he is not a native English speaker; I bet he's got a better grasp on English than you do on his mother tongue. "He needs to get another job" is the correct phrase, but his is comprehensible.
@@jordanh5312 There's no issue with his English except a missing "n". He could have accidentally hit the space bar instead of the "n" key and not caught the mistake.
Did the story of this extravagant Roman invasion remind anyone else of the movie 300? maybe the Romans entered inland through a land corridor opposed to using the inland waterways? Hopefully some local mudlarkers, detectorists or archaeologist will find something to prove where the invasion initially took place. Interesting episode thanks for sharing!
Also should be a place to keep the
Perhaps we need to look elsewhere for evidence of the Romans landing like Hailsham ( Pevensey Levels inlet) or Fishbourne.
I got 99 problems but a ditch ain't one.
Was the audio engineer for post excavated from a ditch? Tony's voice over comments get multiple times drowned out by the scene audio and it's really hard to follow. But then, such a shoddy audio job makes me appreciate proper audio mixing in post even more so.
REALLY disappointing... Audio is so out of whack, I can't watch it. Too bad! Looks to be yet another VERY INTERESTING episode! I love TimeTeam!!!