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Oilers were in the bottom quarter of the league standings when McDavid suffered that leg injury. They had no hope of making the playoffs, which made many fans question why he was in the lineup to begin with. And I'm sorry, but how is getting tripped by an opposing player seen as reckless? Or did McDavid skate too fast which led to the trip which led to his leg hitting the net?
McDavid has stated many times now, specifically in his documentary, how he was becoming reckless with his speed. He would go to balls to wall and pray it worked out. Ever since that game he drastically changed his mindset to ensure that doesn’t happen again
@@supegdakingcomparing mcdavid to his rookie season all the way to the season where he had that terrible injury against Calgary in the last game of the season, you can tell he is way more calculated when driving to the net now. Im not saying that he doesn’t anymore but he definitely reads the play to see if it’s safe for him to drive the net nowadays
That is not the point I am making. McDavid has stated he has been reckless with his top speed. An incident was bound to happen, whether it was from a penalty or not, it is no coincidence that he has become a much more polished player since that play
We were winning a game by two gals with 6 seconds left, and I was the fastest guy in the league. I chased down a guy who pissed me off earlier in the game, and I couldn't shake it. He pivoted when I had him in the corner, and with one second left, I still couldn't shake it and experienced a slight tear in my MCL. It wasn't terrible, but it set me back a few months, and I missed the playoffs. I was our leading scorer in the league and the most significant threat then. You don't realize how small the hockey window is until you aren't playing. Stay healthy both emotionally and physically. I got cocky in that game, and I paid the price. My knee was always on my mind at that and distracted me from my game.
Clearly, along the years, I see a massive difference in my game style when I play Hockey Ball in my hometown's league... based on emotion and confidence. At the time, I was fueling energy and was in the sweet spot and, at my peak emotionally, could cross the danger zone when I had a heat up situation or that a game was personal to me because of players or teams that I hate to play against... and it wasn't good overall. Today, over the years, I have changed personally, and I'm overall way below the sweet spot when I am emotionless. And when I play with the emotion and confidence... in the sweet spot, but ALMOST never to the danger zone when things heat up massively during a match.
Same thing happened with Kucherov from 2019-2022. In 2019 he let it get to him and he got suspended. In the 2020-2021 series vs the Islanders, he and Brayden Point were getting absolutely ABUSED by guys like Matt Martin. They (Point and Kuch) elevated their game and almost singlehandedly (doublehandedly?) won those series.
Yeah MacKinnon admitted the other day he felt like the team just wasn't up to the task last season, for various reasons. I think his upset during the Seattle game was the culmination of his frustration with the game and that feeling. It was definitely an out of character moment for him, usually he directs anger to part of his game. I think he'll be more dialed in this year, he sounds like he has more confidence in this group even though camp has just begun.
Peter Forsberg was one of those players that kept dancing on that line of line of using his emotions to play well throughout his entire career. With Forsberg you could literally see it in his eyes. I'm not sure any other player ever used that agressiveness as well as he did to be honest.
I become high i become quicker on point i become more focused than focused future teller of some sorts. I wanna win i wanna prove a point if even losing...Emotional wizardry...adrenaline fueled emotion...i love it...I cant lose like this. LoL..thx..a video i never ever thought or imagine to see. Wow. Its true I BELIEVE YOU.
Great video! It's definitely thought-provoking using anger as a tool for success and I think it's successful if it transpires naturally. This is probably all nonsense, but I think we have some societal constructs which can just romanticize moments and can lead to a player's underperformance. If a player had a previous successful play sourced by anger or frustration, then I think it could be almost a crutch for a player, who will try to force or recreate their previous success. Mackinnon's coast-to-coast goal against St. Louis developed naturally and led to an amazing moment. (Note: probably shouldn't talk about the next players because I don't really follow them closely so let me know if it's way off base). In JT Miller's case, over last season my overall impression was that he just had all of these emotionally induced moments like with his goaltender or just freaking out on the bench leading to Petterson rolling his eyes at him, but it all seemed forced and almost theatrical. Don't get me wrong, I do think he was actually pissed in those moments, but because of previous successes stemmed from anger, the filter of trying to remain calm and collected lessens. Same thing with Binnington in 2019 with the cup. Binnington's attitude and emotional displays likely led to his outstanding performance, but he hasn't really had success since. He's had moments and stretches, but not like 2019 while I feel like his antics have only increased and become more extreme because he's trying to tap into that magic and forcing it to happen. My interpretation of your graph with more skilled players having a higher tolerance before entering into the danger zone could illustrate my point. Higher skilled players are rewarded from their skill and their skills leads to their capacity to produce a variety of successful moments. So, they're not conditioned solely from anger/frustration induced moments because the recognition/reward they receive is from a wider range of responses which lets higher skill players to develop their composure. It's likely the reason McDavid doesn't show his frustration because he knows that it's not likely to produce the desired outcome but rather if he just keeps leaning on his skills then the desired outcome will come as it many times before. Anyway, I don't know how off base I am with my thoughts about it, but interesting to think about the psychology of a player. Ultimately, I think the romanticization of the underdog or the passionate player is more harmful than good.
Not to be that guy but Mcdavid's knee injury happened in game 82 of the 2018-2019 season, the Oilers were already out of the playoffs. Therefore the injury didn't cause him to miss those playoffs.
One time my whole team was pissed at one guy who had terrible sportsmanship so I hit him into the back of the net because I felt like I had to put him in his place when I really didn't
While I agree McDavid has elevated his game with increased focus over the years, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the catalyst. When he suffered that injury against Calgary, McDavid was in total control...he has used that burst of speed and performed the same maneuver of cutting to the net time and time again...the injury was caused by Giordano knowing McDavid was going to fly past/cut in front of him, and deciding to sprawl onto the ice recklessly if not intentionally blocking McDavid's path. That he may have later thought he was becoming "reckless" with his speed was irrelevant.
When I played I did have emotional moments where when I was playing like shit I for sure was playing worse. At the same time, if bullshit happened to someone on the team or I was mad at the opposition/refs, I was amazing in spite of my skating.
I'm usually a very calm guy on any playing field I play in, but I can "pull" people into emotion both on my side and the opposing side. Usually being annoying with little things makes opponents either snap or underperform when you expect them trying to kick into higher gear after some taunting. Also it is easier to play with my own teammates when I notice someone playing with emotion or how someone doesn't really react so I can pass to either get something going or to calm things down.
Well put bud . Respect to our retired Bergy , thank you for that . Side note , at a tournament in tingsborough ma , I was going deep into a corner and was matched up against a monster . He was showing his size over me all game . Going into the corner , I dug in and lau ched up at him , dislocating my shoulder ... that was wicked fun when I realized my right arm wouldn't work .
Have some experience in this but in the opposite manner. Being a low skill, low emotion but highly conditioned player i mentally bullied the skilled guys into the danger zone. Always on their side, always talking shit.
this guy shot at my goalie after the whistle, so in the next play when he was caught with his head down, I did what Stevens did to lindros and got into a fight that got me banned from the league
I got slashed in the wrist and then someone hooked my skate and pulled my leg after the played was called dead I slashed him in the shin we both go to the box it’s 4 on 4 and I was livid next shift I scored
i play house league hockey all my life and in my U15 year i had orange and i got traded and was so mad about it cause it was my first team where people talked to eachother in the locker room i became a different beast also on my new team which was yellow there was one kid where if you fucked with him or the team mates he would litterly score 5 goals in five mins it was insane
This why I think Guy Boucher joining the Leafs this summer might be a game changer for that team. Both time he join a team as head coach, they made the conference final the first year.
Unreal perspective and I couldn't agree more! 👏 Feels like the Leafs need to utilize emotional energy a bit more... hopefully Domi can spark some of that for them!
@@RobTalksHockey Sure. "So, guys, here's a video with Connor McDavid in the title, guys. But enough about Connor Now I'm gonna talk about JT Miller for 5 minutes."
@@RobTalksHockey Don't get upset. I just find your vids titles funny. I think you might be in a bit of a canuck bubble if you think JT is the "posterboy". Its just fun how you spin any topic back to talking about your team. Ohnyquist does the same thing with the red wings.
I love watching McDavid play hockey because he is the greatest right now. But I love when he gets his head buried by a hit. It’s a bipolar situation lol. And with Tony DeAngelo, I actually feel for him as a Flyers fan because that’s what he’s wanted his whole life, and they just kicked him to the curb after a year. He may be inconsistent, but he’s born to be a Flyer. No pun intended on consistency mentioned lol
McDavid's injury was hardly his fault nor due to his loss of control of his emotions. Wrong example. It was a clear trip by Giordano which should have resulted in a suspension, but DPS was run by a famous goon. If an opposing player wants to injure someone with a blindside hit near the boards, or a slewfoot, then it happens. It's not the injured player's fault. Victim blaming is not the way to handle it. Enforcement of rules for player safety is.
Man you just made all this stuff up about the coaching change and discipline being the reason. On-field performance and off field discipline are only related insofar as teams scratching someone from the lineup for behavior or the league suspending them. Rodman and Rasheed Wallace in the NBA. Machado and everyone in the 90's in baseball. Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco in the NFL. All have "discipline issues" while being the best player in their league and continuing to improve. Top players naturally continue to improve up to season 4-5 of their career on average. Someone going through a natural progression doesnt mean that suddenly some other factor made the difference. Your own other videos don't support it. You generally do a good job, don't start lying or it will hurt your credibility.
This has happened to me. I was maybe 11 in an important playoff game and the other team was abusing everyone on the ice, there was a net front scrum where punches were thrown, after that I started wheeling up the ice and embarrassed the goalie(I also did a flyby celly at there bench) But emotion plays a massive role in hockwy
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Can you name an emotional player who comes up huge? Or perhaps, crumbles...
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@@fireboltgaming3558 Kucherov... and both.
Marko Anttila but ONLY in international games
Drouin
Jonathan Drouin
Oilers were in the bottom quarter of the league standings when McDavid suffered that leg injury. They had no hope of making the playoffs, which made many fans question why he was in the lineup to begin with. And I'm sorry, but how is getting tripped by an opposing player seen as reckless? Or did McDavid skate too fast which led to the trip which led to his leg hitting the net?
McDavid has stated many times now, specifically in his documentary, how he was becoming reckless with his speed. He would go to balls to wall and pray it worked out. Ever since that game he drastically changed his mindset to ensure that doesn’t happen again
@@supegdakingcomparing mcdavid to his rookie season all the way to the season where he had that terrible injury against Calgary in the last game of the season, you can tell he is way more calculated when driving to the net now. Im not saying that he doesn’t anymore but he definitely reads the play to see if it’s safe for him to drive the net nowadays
@@RobTalksHockeyGiordano himself admitted that it was a bad play, try and contain your bias.
That is not the point I am making. McDavid has stated he has been reckless with his top speed. An incident was bound to happen, whether it was from a penalty or not, it is no coincidence that he has become a much more polished player since that play
It's the old battle of using your emotions or letting your emotions use you.
The fan at 5:12 flipping the bird 😂
We were winning a game by two gals with 6 seconds left, and I was the fastest guy in the league. I chased down a guy who pissed me off earlier in the game, and I couldn't shake it. He pivoted when I had him in the corner, and with one second left, I still couldn't shake it and experienced a slight tear in my MCL. It wasn't terrible, but it set me back a few months, and I missed the playoffs. I was our leading scorer in the league and the most significant threat then. You don't realize how small the hockey window is until you aren't playing. Stay healthy both emotionally and physically. I got cocky in that game, and I paid the price. My knee was always on my mind at that and distracted me from my game.
One time during a game I made a bad play in the defensive zone and my teammate was yelling at me and I got mad and instantly scored an insane assist
how does one score an assist?🤔
@@alexk4513only a legend known as @TANNMAN54 could do such a thing
@@alexk4513 You can't get credit for an own goal. He scored on his net and the last player on the other team to touch it got the point.
Clearly, along the years, I see a massive difference in my game style when I play Hockey Ball in my hometown's league... based on emotion and confidence.
At the time, I was fueling energy and was in the sweet spot and, at my peak emotionally, could cross the danger zone when I had a heat up situation or that a game was personal to me because of players or teams that I hate to play against... and it wasn't good overall.
Today, over the years, I have changed personally, and I'm overall way below the sweet spot when I am emotionless. And when I play with the emotion and confidence... in the sweet spot, but ALMOST never to the danger zone when things heat up massively during a match.
I just binge watched your channel, bravo…damn, you have a fan.
Same thing happened with Kucherov from 2019-2022. In 2019 he let it get to him and he got suspended. In the 2020-2021 series vs the Islanders, he and Brayden Point were getting absolutely ABUSED by guys like Matt Martin. They (Point and Kuch) elevated their game and almost singlehandedly (doublehandedly?) won those series.
This was amazing. I appreciate this video and will take the advice you provide here with cautious ears. Thank you Rob.
Yeah MacKinnon admitted the other day he felt like the team just wasn't up to the task last season, for various reasons. I think his upset during the Seattle game was the culmination of his frustration with the game and that feeling. It was definitely an out of character moment for him, usually he directs anger to part of his game. I think he'll be more dialed in this year, he sounds like he has more confidence in this group even though camp has just begun.
One of your best video's yet my man. Can I just say the Goldeneye music brings me back too.. absolutely on point.
Peter Forsberg was one of those players that kept dancing on that line of line of using his emotions to play well throughout his entire career. With Forsberg you could literally see it in his eyes. I'm not sure any other player ever used that agressiveness as well as he did to be honest.
Forsberg was insane.
FORSBERG IS THE BEST CHOICE.
WOW YOUR SO RIGHT MAN.
PETER FORSBERG
UNSTOPPABLE IT SEEMED.
Wouldn't be a RTH video without the golden eye theme music gotta love it!
Dude these videos are so awesome
Malkin is the epitome of this. Don’t poke the Russian bear! Angry Geno is score!
ANGRY GENO IS SCORE!
I become high i become quicker on point i become more focused than focused future teller of some sorts. I wanna win i wanna prove a point if even losing...Emotional wizardry...adrenaline fueled emotion...i love it...I cant lose like this. LoL..thx..a video i never ever thought or imagine to see. Wow. Its true I BELIEVE YOU.
Great video! It's definitely thought-provoking using anger as a tool for success and I think it's successful if it transpires naturally.
This is probably all nonsense, but I think we have some societal constructs which can just romanticize moments and can lead to a player's underperformance. If a player had a previous successful play sourced by anger or frustration, then I think it could be almost a crutch for a player, who will try to force or recreate their previous success.
Mackinnon's coast-to-coast goal against St. Louis developed naturally and led to an amazing moment. (Note: probably shouldn't talk about the next players because I don't really follow them closely so let me know if it's way off base). In JT Miller's case, over last season my overall impression was that he just had all of these emotionally induced moments like with his goaltender or just freaking out on the bench leading to Petterson rolling his eyes at him, but it all seemed forced and almost theatrical. Don't get me wrong, I do think he was actually pissed in those moments, but because of previous successes stemmed from anger, the filter of trying to remain calm and collected lessens.
Same thing with Binnington in 2019 with the cup. Binnington's attitude and emotional displays likely led to his outstanding performance, but he hasn't really had success since. He's had moments and stretches, but not like 2019 while I feel like his antics have only increased and become more extreme because he's trying to tap into that magic and forcing it to happen.
My interpretation of your graph with more skilled players having a higher tolerance before entering into the danger zone could illustrate my point. Higher skilled players are rewarded from their skill and their skills leads to their capacity to produce a variety of successful moments. So, they're not conditioned solely from anger/frustration induced moments because the recognition/reward they receive is from a wider range of responses which lets higher skill players to develop their composure. It's likely the reason McDavid doesn't show his frustration because he knows that it's not likely to produce the desired outcome but rather if he just keeps leaning on his skills then the desired outcome will come as it many times before.
Anyway, I don't know how off base I am with my thoughts about it, but interesting to think about the psychology of a player. Ultimately, I think the romanticization of the underdog or the passionate player is more harmful than good.
Jt miller lives in the danger zone 😂😂😂
goldeneye audio adds a good touch
I thought this video was going to be just cheese but you made another good one Rob. Great points.
great video man, i love your content !!
Thanks my man
lmao you are such a nerd and i love it.
McDavid healed a PCL by thinking about it hard and won the Hart and art ross next season.
emotional enegery xD
Trouba gets him mad and he quiets down
I once got so mad because I got a pen that I punched the box and I got suspended for it lol
Not to be that guy but Mcdavid's knee injury happened in game 82 of the 2018-2019 season, the Oilers were already out of the playoffs. Therefore the injury didn't cause him to miss those playoffs.
Sorry to hear. I did the same, but collarbone. He dropped to one knee lol but that was uncommon
I find it funny since i called rob out for posting a vid every 3 months he picked it up. Thank you for listening
One time my whole team was pissed at one guy who had terrible sportsmanship so I hit him into the back of the net because I felt like I had to put him in his place when I really didn't
This is why so many players have mental coaches now
Mcdavid didn’t lose control giordano took out his feet.
While I agree McDavid has elevated his game with increased focus over the years, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the catalyst. When he suffered that injury against Calgary, McDavid was in total control...he has used that burst of speed and performed the same maneuver of cutting to the net time and time again...the injury was caused by Giordano knowing McDavid was going to fly past/cut in front of him, and deciding to sprawl onto the ice recklessly if not intentionally blocking McDavid's path. That he may have later thought he was becoming "reckless" with his speed was irrelevant.
don't make him mad , cause he'll pout.....
Mackinnon is on roids. You expect me to believe a sports psychologist made him that much stronger and faster?
He was always stupidly fast you can watch his rookie season and QMJHL highlights for that
jealous cause hes not a bum like you are?
TYE KARTYE SUPER ELITE GENERATIONAL
Brooo he didn’t lose control, he got effing tripped, get it right
Nick Lidstrom was the perfect example of a franchise flat-line player. He almost never made mistakes and never let his emotions get to him.
and then he GOT flat lined by stevens
When I played I did have emotional moments where when I was playing like shit I for sure was playing worse. At the same time, if bullshit happened to someone on the team or I was mad at the opposition/refs, I was amazing in spite of my skating.
Iggy is the goat for this!
Amazing video
But Rob, when you are angry do your videos go from elite to otherworldy?
I'm usually a very calm guy on any playing field I play in, but I can "pull" people into emotion both on my side and the opposing side. Usually being annoying with little things makes opponents either snap or underperform when you expect them trying to kick into higher gear after some taunting. Also it is easier to play with my own teammates when I notice someone playing with emotion or how someone doesn't really react so I can pass to either get something going or to calm things down.
Well put bud . Respect to our retired Bergy , thank you for that . Side note , at a tournament in tingsborough ma , I was going deep into a corner and was matched up against a monster . He was showing his size over me all game . Going into the corner , I dug in and lau ched up at him , dislocating my shoulder ... that was wicked fun when I realized my right arm wouldn't work .
Have some experience in this but in the opposite manner. Being a low skill, low emotion but highly conditioned player i mentally bullied the skilled guys into the danger zone. Always on their side, always talking shit.
EmOtIoNaL dAmAgE!
this guy shot at my goalie after the whistle, so in the next play when he was caught with his head down, I did what Stevens did to lindros and got into a fight that got me banned from the league
I got slashed in the wrist and then someone hooked my skate and pulled my leg after the played was called dead I slashed him in the shin we both go to the box it’s 4 on 4 and I was livid next shift I scored
i play house league hockey all my life and in my U15 year i had orange and i got traded and was so mad about it cause it was my first team where people talked to eachother in the locker room i became a different beast also on my new team which was yellow there was one kid where if you fucked with him or the team mates he would litterly score 5 goals in five mins it was insane
McDavid did not miss any games with that knee injury. That was the last game of the season and the oilers missed the playoffs.
This why I think Guy Boucher joining the Leafs this summer might be a game changer for that team. Both time he join a team as head coach, they made the conference final the first year.
Unreal perspective and I couldn't agree more! 👏 Feels like the Leafs need to utilize emotional energy a bit more... hopefully Domi can spark some of that for them!
Let's see how Rob will turn this into a video about the Canucks somehow.
Hahaha. I’ve been referencing them a lot because they make a great case study with the bizarre moves they make
@@RobTalksHockey Sure. "So, guys, here's a video with Connor McDavid in the title, guys. But enough about Connor Now I'm gonna talk about JT Miller for 5 minutes."
@@smithryansmith This video was about how emotions impact players. JT Miller was the posterboy for this last season. Chill lmao
@@RobTalksHockey Don't get upset. I just find your vids titles funny. I think you might be in a bit of a canuck bubble if you think JT is the "posterboy". Its just fun how you spin any topic back to talking about your team. Ohnyquist does the same thing with the red wings.
"DADDY CHilllll"
The flyers have a talent for pissing off great players lol
Saw him get mad during a canucks game...all he did was cry to the refs
He should try to get madder in the playoffs because up to now nothing as happened.
In the 2020 season mtl was good to shutdown mcdavid. Mcdavid was so pissed he straight up elbow kotkaniemi in to the head..
Connor did nothing wrong on the play the gio took out his feet. Gio can't keep up with most snd that's his go to move
I love watching McDavid play hockey because he is the greatest right now. But I love when he gets his head buried by a hit. It’s a bipolar situation lol. And with Tony DeAngelo, I actually feel for him as a Flyers fan because that’s what he’s wanted his whole life, and they just kicked him to the curb after a year. He may be inconsistent, but he’s born to be a Flyer. No pun intended on consistency mentioned lol
McDavid's injury was hardly his fault nor due to his loss of control of his emotions. Wrong example. It was a clear trip by Giordano which should have resulted in a suspension, but DPS was run by a famous goon. If an opposing player wants to injure someone with a blindside hit near the boards, or a slewfoot, then it happens. It's not the injured player's fault. Victim blaming is not the way to handle it. Enforcement of rules for player safety is.
Unless its the playoffs. Then you just knock them out Leafs style and laugh
im sorry but that injury is totally on giordano not mcdavid.
Man you just made all this stuff up about the coaching change and discipline being the reason. On-field performance and off field discipline are only related insofar as teams scratching someone from the lineup for behavior or the league suspending them. Rodman and Rasheed Wallace in the NBA. Machado and everyone in the 90's in baseball. Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco in the NFL. All have "discipline issues" while being the best player in their league and continuing to improve. Top players naturally continue to improve up to season 4-5 of their career on average. Someone going through a natural progression doesnt mean that suddenly some other factor made the difference. Your own other videos don't support it. You generally do a good job, don't start lying or it will hurt your credibility.
Evander kane
This emotional analysis of hockey players! You taking Hockey Psychology's turf !!!
Jk tho, the more hockey youtube channels the better !
This has happened to me. I was maybe 11 in an important playoff game and the other team was abusing everyone on the ice, there was a net front scrum where punches were thrown, after that I started wheeling up the ice and embarrassed the goalie(I also did a flyby celly at there bench)
But emotion plays a massive role in hockwy
Loved the video , bummer you didn’t mention Malkin that much , he’s the best player in the NHL when he’s angry
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