I think you will enjoy your heater. Sky just told me today production is finally started in their new factory and he is living there now to boost production. Yeah! We think we will have a Gen 2 demo with us at the Mother Earth News Fair in Texas in February if you want to see one.
In my basement exhaust is gonna be the problem. Is there a blower you can put on the pipe to push it out I do have a corn burger going out to the side.
EDIT: The price of the Liberator RMH-2 will be $2900 when it is available for purchase again. Supply chain problems and building a new factory to accommodate existing orders have slowed things down. Tell them Uncle Mud sent you.
How thick is the ceramic coating inside the pipes?Are all the pipes that are direct in contact with the flames coated with this ceramic? Do you spray/paint the coating before welding the pipes together? And where do you find this coating to buy it?
This video is a few years old. The Gen 2 Liberator has a replaceable 1/2" ceramic board liner in the entire burn chamber and heat riser. I don't think they found the spray coat adequate given the high temperatures inside. rocketmassheater.com/recommends/unclemud/
@@UncleMud Ahh. I see. But sky thought it worked, or not? How thick is the inner tube in your 2.0? I am building my own since I works with welding and have a lot of material at hand. Thought maybe a slightly thicker inner tube would do. I have 6 milimeter (which I think would be 1/4 inch, if I am not mistaken). I thought of having three pipes. One inner, then one outside of that as an "outer wall". In between those I would use some form of isolation so that it becomes a thicker pipe all together. Then the outer, big pipe as combustion chamber. As showed 1:55 into this video: ruclips.net/video/z_hgLoMPaGg/видео.html Is it of any importance of how wide the outer pipe can be/needs to be?
@@Zazquatch1 For long life the inside of the 1/8" steel inner tube (riser) is lined with 1/2" ceramic board on the gen 2 liberator and the standard stove pipe inner tube on my considerably lower tech CottageRocket is lined inside with ceramic wool. They are all aging quite gracefully, even my 8" CottageRocket. I want to thank you for the video of your great rocket heater. There's a lot of innovative stuff there. Unless you keep the cross sectional area down below about 20 square inches AND forego insulation around the metal to carefully keep the metal sides below 906 degrees (like the gen 1 liberator did) I do worry from personal experience that your well insulated (on the outside) inner tube is going spall away to nothing within a season or two no matter how thick you make it. To be clear I think it is a good idea to be able to easily inspect and replace any and all rocket components so that you will do it at least every year or two no matter what you make it out of. If you have the same access to and familiarity with metal that I do to cob I could totally see you making your inner tube super easy to replace like a pool filter. The problem with making your unlined uninsulated inner tube out of metal like the Gen 1 liberator was is that creosote burns at about 1300 degrees, so even though an uninsulated metal rocket has a lot cleaner burn than a typical woodstove allowing us to use a thermal mass battery and all that, the burn is not nearly as clean or efficient as the burn in a rocket insulated as well as or better than yours. If I made a rocket as well built as yours I would line the inside of my 2" bigger inner tube with an inch of ceramic wool or a cast ceramic wool refractory riser sleeve. I would also line my 2.5" larger burn chamber with cheap easily replaceable 1.25" firebrick. Below is a link to the one year report on a heater we made out of junk and cob and the aforementioned adjustments in the core. at about 1:45 you will see what happens after a month or two to a very expensive piece of high end stainless steel used as an unlined but insulated inner tube in a heater that gets hot enough to burn all the creosote and smoke. Thank you for sharing your work. My on is a welder and he is teaching me how to appreciate fabrication as a well done art. l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fvm.tiktok.com%2FZMRyxEhSr%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0aYaLyRZwsFZ9yABpicgwl2FftCqYE3-7HBrwXPRhNV309R3CfPoMq7aE&h=AT0Ogxq_wxP6s_GEf4umOYf8uKlE3MziPaj195EvR5ItXze-wOD2LI2BOqielK6xfhB36JD9KRPM57x6CxKWZUOcEJu62rpGheltMFH7LWhUrngetPrb9i6vvwL2TNQIEC8T7g
@@UncleMud Thank you for the answer. The video I shared was not my own build but an idea that came frpm someone in Poland. Still I hought it would give an idea about what I was aiming for. I am not atm. working on my Mass Heater.
@@Zazquatch1 Thanks for the clarification. The problem remains that metal as an unprotected internal liner lasts weeks maybe months in a RMH that is burning hot enough to reliably burn all the creosote and smoke. Please consider that in what you are aiming for.
Few questions: 1. Did he say when the 2.0 and mini are going to be available for sale? 2. Is the mini going to be UL certified? 3. What's the advantage of UL and EPA certified vs UL certified? Thanks for this video! Neat to see behind the website. I'm setting up my addition now for this, just debating waiting for another model besides the Mach1.
1. The 2.0 is expected to be up and epa certified within the next 3 months. The mini will not be UL listed. All woodstoves sold for residential heating are supposed to be epa certified regarding their particulate emissions as of 2020, but things are slow and disrupted at the EPA for reasons this year.
EDIT January 2022: The price of the Liberator RMH-2 will be $2900 when it is available for purchase again. Supply chain problems and building a new factory to accommodate existing orders have slowed things down. Tell them Uncle Mud sent you.
about 30k btu per hour depending on the height of your chimney and the density of your firewood. There is no manufacturer fan attachment. To order go to rocketheater.com and use my UNCLEMUD23 code at checkoout for free shipping in the US
I feed mine every half hour or so during the day and running the chimney through a thermal mass bench stores the heat and keeps the house warm over night.
@@keoniwalaka8858 This is why a Rocket Heater plugs into a mass battery like a cob or pebble bench to store the heat and slowly release it over night. It isn't for everyone, but if you work online or have one of these in your shop you get used to dropping a couple scraps in every so often. The payoff is that I use 1/3 the wood my old woodstove used to use and instead of $300 per cord split red oak I use $30 per cord hardwood flooring scraps that don't burn well in a traditional woodstove.
It would depend on the size of your trailer and how well it is insulated. None of these need electricity. Unfortunately they don't make the mini any more but drop me an email info@unclemud.com and I will see what I can do.
The riser on the Gen 1 is steel. 3 years on there is no erosion on it. Stay tuned for an unboxing video of the Gen 2 due out in the next few months it has a replaceable ceramic board liner.
Why the Vertical Video Syndrome? It pains me to watch vertical videos. lol... Thanks for the video tour. If you go back use a gimbal stabilizer and shoot horizontal with more detail angles.
This company is modern and progressive, it deserves to do well.
Yes! Thank you for watching.
Well done son. The world needs you
Thank you. I love telling people about the fine work being done in the world. The Liberator folks are making a difference.
I bought the gen 2. I watch all the videos.
I think you will enjoy your heater. Sky just told me today production is finally started in their new factory and he is living there now to boost production. Yeah! We think we will have a Gen 2 demo with us at the Mother Earth News Fair in Texas in February if you want to see one.
Hello from the great state of Michigan
Hello, thank you for watching. I built my first rocket heater and some sauna builds in Michigan. Good memories.
In my basement exhaust is gonna be the problem. Is there a blower you can put on the pipe to push it out I do have a corn burger going out to the side.
Very nice. I want to buy one.
it is very cozy
rocketmassheater.com/recommends/unclemud/
EDIT: The price of the Liberator RMH-2 will be $2900 when it is available for purchase again. Supply chain problems and building a new factory to accommodate existing orders have slowed things down. Tell them Uncle Mud sent you.
How much done the stove costs small and the larger one
My bad and forgot to ask. How would you make a barch box rocket stove Uncle Mudd ??? Thanks
I don't generally. They are definitely useful but a lot more expensive to build and they require a lot more skill to pull off.
Where can I get information on ceramic coating that you use and I can understand ?? Thanks
The ceramic coating was not used in the final production design, instead it is lined with replaceable 1/2" ceramic insulating board.
How thick is the ceramic coating inside the pipes?Are all the pipes that are direct in contact with the flames coated with this ceramic? Do you spray/paint the coating before welding the pipes together? And where do you find this coating to buy it?
This video is a few years old. The Gen 2 Liberator has a replaceable 1/2" ceramic board liner in the entire burn chamber and heat riser. I don't think they found the spray coat adequate given the high temperatures inside. rocketmassheater.com/recommends/unclemud/
@@UncleMud Ahh. I see. But sky thought it worked, or not?
How thick is the inner tube in your 2.0?
I am building my own since I works with welding and have a lot of material at hand. Thought maybe a slightly thicker inner tube would do. I have 6 milimeter (which I think would be 1/4 inch, if I am not mistaken).
I thought of having three pipes. One inner, then one outside of that as an "outer wall". In between those I would use some form of isolation so that it becomes a thicker pipe all together. Then the outer, big pipe as combustion chamber. As showed 1:55 into this video: ruclips.net/video/z_hgLoMPaGg/видео.html
Is it of any importance of how wide the outer pipe can be/needs to be?
@@Zazquatch1 For long life the inside of the 1/8" steel inner tube (riser) is lined with 1/2" ceramic board on the gen 2 liberator and the standard stove pipe inner tube on my considerably lower tech CottageRocket is lined inside with ceramic wool. They are all aging quite gracefully, even my 8" CottageRocket. I want to thank you for the video of your great rocket heater. There's a lot of innovative stuff there. Unless you keep the cross sectional area down below about 20 square inches AND forego insulation around the metal to carefully keep the metal sides below 906 degrees (like the gen 1 liberator did) I do worry from personal experience that your well insulated (on the outside) inner tube is going spall away to nothing within a season or two no matter how thick you make it. To be clear I think it is a good idea to be able to easily inspect and replace any and all rocket components so that you will do it at least every year or two no matter what you make it out of. If you have the same access to and familiarity with metal that I do to cob I could totally see you making your inner tube super easy to replace like a pool filter. The problem with making your unlined uninsulated inner tube out of metal like the Gen 1 liberator was is that creosote burns at about 1300 degrees, so even though an uninsulated metal rocket has a lot cleaner burn than a typical woodstove allowing us to use a thermal mass battery and all that, the burn is not nearly as clean or efficient as the burn in a rocket insulated as well as or better than yours. If I made a rocket as well built as yours I would line the inside of my 2" bigger inner tube with an inch of ceramic wool or a cast ceramic wool refractory riser sleeve. I would also line my 2.5" larger burn chamber with cheap easily replaceable 1.25" firebrick. Below is a link to the one year report on a heater we made out of junk and cob and the aforementioned adjustments in the core. at about 1:45 you will see what happens after a month or two to a very expensive piece of high end stainless steel used as an unlined but insulated inner tube in a heater that gets hot enough to burn all the creosote and smoke. Thank you for sharing your work. My on is a welder and he is teaching me how to appreciate fabrication as a well done art. l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fvm.tiktok.com%2FZMRyxEhSr%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0aYaLyRZwsFZ9yABpicgwl2FftCqYE3-7HBrwXPRhNV309R3CfPoMq7aE&h=AT0Ogxq_wxP6s_GEf4umOYf8uKlE3MziPaj195EvR5ItXze-wOD2LI2BOqielK6xfhB36JD9KRPM57x6CxKWZUOcEJu62rpGheltMFH7LWhUrngetPrb9i6vvwL2TNQIEC8T7g
@@UncleMud Thank you for the answer.
The video I shared was not my own build but an idea that came frpm someone in Poland. Still I hought it would give an idea about what I was aiming for.
I am not atm. working on my Mass Heater.
@@Zazquatch1 Thanks for the clarification. The problem remains that metal as an unprotected internal liner lasts weeks maybe months in a RMH that is burning hot enough to reliably burn all the creosote and smoke. Please consider that in what you are aiming for.
Few questions:
1. Did he say when the 2.0 and mini are going to be available for sale?
2. Is the mini going to be UL certified?
3. What's the advantage of UL and EPA certified vs UL certified?
Thanks for this video! Neat to see behind the website. I'm setting up my addition now for this, just debating waiting for another model besides the Mach1.
1. The 2.0 is expected to be up and epa certified within the next 3 months. The mini will not be UL listed. All woodstoves sold for residential heating are supposed to be epa certified regarding their particulate emissions as of 2020, but things are slow and disrupted at the EPA for reasons this year.
EDIT January 2022: The price of the Liberator RMH-2 will be $2900 when it is available for purchase again. Supply chain problems and building a new factory to accommodate existing orders have slowed things down. Tell them Uncle Mud sent you.
I wanna know where that ceramic coating comes from and how much it costs. Very interesting!
You and me both!
@@UncleMud Its a 1/2" thick refractory ceramic fiber board, the same used in many blacksmithing kilns. Fundamentally it is similar kaowool.
Can you add a bigger hoper?
You could.
How thick is the outer cylinder and top cover please and thank you
1/4 inch on the cap, pre-tensioned 16 ga on cylinder.
What’s the distance between the top of inside tube to the cover
@@sarmadsleyo5052 I don't remember. It should be about 3 inches.
What is the BTU’s on your rocket stove please?
This one is about 30k per hour. Thank you for watching
What's the BTUs? Fan attachment? How much?
How do I order one?
about 30k btu per hour depending on the height of your chimney and the density of your firewood. There is no manufacturer fan attachment. To order go to rocketheater.com and use my UNCLEMUD23 code at checkoout for free shipping in the US
The only trouble is without the mass and burning scrape wood it has to be feed hourly is what I saw on their website.
I feed mine every half hour or so during the day and running the chimney through a thermal mass bench stores the heat and keeps the house warm over night.
@@UncleMud Ouch! Every 1/2 hour is a LOT of maintenance. Doesn't sound at all practical for wood fire.
@@keoniwalaka8858 This is why a Rocket Heater plugs into a mass battery like a cob or pebble bench to store the heat and slowly release it over night. It isn't for everyone, but if you work online or have one of these in your shop you get used to dropping a couple scraps in every so often. The payoff is that I use 1/3 the wood my old woodstove used to use and instead of $300 per cord split red oak I use $30 per cord hardwood flooring scraps that don't burn well in a traditional woodstove.
Would that mini be good for my portable workshop trailer? None of these require electricity? Where can I buy the mini?
It would depend on the size of your trailer and how well it is insulated. None of these need electricity. Unfortunately they don't make the mini any more but drop me an email info@unclemud.com and I will see what I can do.
What is the riser made of?
The riser on the Gen 1 is steel. 3 years on there is no erosion on it. Stay tuned for an unboxing video of the Gen 2 due out in the next few months it has a replaceable ceramic board liner.
What is the riser made of
The riser is made of ceramic fiber board.
I want one bad
Its especially nice with a mass bench. Thank you for watching.
We need 6000 000 millions this stove rockets ))))
I agree. Thanks for watching
Why the Vertical Video Syndrome? It pains me to watch vertical videos. lol... Thanks for the video tour. If you go back use a gimbal stabilizer and shoot horizontal with more detail angles.
Will do. It has definitely been a learning curve.
lol so they think its safe.... yah that's what I want, something appears safe...
The UL testing says it IS safe as far as the lab can tell, bur people also want to feel safe. People be like that.