"Menace II Society" Movie Review | The BlackBusters Podcast Ep.36
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Menace II Society is a 1993 American teen drama film directed by the Hughes Brothers in their directorial debut. The film is set in Watts and Crenshaw neighborhoods of Los Angeles, and follows the life of Caine Lawson (Tyrin Turner) and his close friends. It gained notoriety for its scenes of violence, profanity, and drug-related content, and also received critical acclaim for the performances of Turner, Jada Pinkett, and Larenz Tate, the direction, and its realistic portrayal of urban violence and powerful underlying messages.
After growing up in the gang lifestyle of the Los Angeles projects, 18-year-old Caine Lawson (Tyrin Turner) wants a way out. Everyone around him, including his unpredictable friend O-Dog (Larenz Tate), is trapped in their lives of crime and violence. With the help of his caring teacher (Charles Dutton) and supportive girlfriend (Jada Pinkett), Caine plans to leave the city for good. But in a series of tragic events, Caine realizes that escape will not be easy.
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Shout out to WattsHomieQuan. If you've seen his *"Growing Up in LA"* sketches you know he's the best guest to bring thru to review the movie.
Bruh is a damn fool/genius for that.😅 He brings the hoods together.
I’m smiling and laughing bc it’s my favorite movie and I fuck wit Big Jah But the more y’all started breaking down the mentality that made a nigga start crying bc I was just like that and I’m from Oakland we so fucked up in the hood it’s crazy. This breakdown is powerful on many levels
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knowing what I know about Atlanta from 1993 to the present, that would've been a great move for Cain to make with Pernell's old lady. It was also on brand because everyone was making that move to Atlanta in the mid 90's.
And that's how freak knit started
I remember my cousin (RIP) telling me take my Dodgers cap off on the way to play pickup baseball at a park in Compton. I was too young to get it cuz I was from Texas. I didn't realize how real it was back then. Sadly, my cousin was shot and killed less than a year later.
I'm sorry for your loss brother.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Sorry for your loss bro🙏 but why move from Texas TO CALI!??
@@JaiSpring-tg2ht i was just visiting.
The crazy part about this movie was it took place over the span of the whole school SUMMER BREAK! Let that sink in, the summer break!!
That's just how it be. That shid happens like that every summer. Some worse than others.
That's deep
Great episode… I wish y’all would’ve talked about the great Samuel L Jackson playing his dad Tat. It was a short scene but as always he was amazing
Man, that's sad growing up in an environment like that.
Least valuable player is the guy dancing really hard when Caine and Harold walk in the party .
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Lorenz Tate played the prequel to O Dog in that short-lived series, South Central
It was becoming on of my favorite sitcoms. Prior to Menace II Society, Larenz Tate appeared on Matlock, Amen, The Wonder Years, New Attitude, Family Matters & The Royal Family.
@@therealmarlonbellamy Yea, mine also. It was something TV wasn't showing elsewhere. I was mad when it got cancelled.
Now that you mention it, I do remember my mother watching Matlock while my mother was watching it
@@RANInkTV There are a lot forgotten short lived sitcoms
Still can’t believe that show was canceled after 1 season..it’s befuddling
@@dinorashad662 It was cancelled after 10 episodes due to low ratings. There was a lot of competition back then.
Menace II Society recast Bigg Jah play Stacy
Great conversation gentlemen! Growing up in south central LA we can tell our stories for days!! So many relatable moments in our upbringing…Menace to Society was true reflection of what it looked like growing up in the hood!! Shout out to Watts Homie Quan!! ✊🏾
Being a latchkey kid growing up in Philly (and all rough cities) is the same as y’all described, we just didn’t have quote unquote “gangs”. You had to carefully navigate which blocks to go down, which to avoid, don’t stare too long, but don’t look like a punk, always be on alert, and be ready to run when you get outnumbered. Fights everyday in school, out of school, and on the bus/train going home. Same sh:t.
There was a crip and blood undertone to Menace and Boyz n The Hood. Doughboy and his crew were crips, the guys they were beefing with were clearly bloods (dressed in red, Bulls gear). Cane and O Dog were grape street crips and they guys they killed at the burger stand were dressed in burgandy (Pirus).
Stacy was in Dead Presidents too another Hughes Bros Production
Man this discussion brought so much light and so much personal “Trauma” about living in LA. I never looked at this movie and got triggered. But looking at this made me realize how much it reflected my life. Plus the conversation. I’m from Watts. I was that kid in the 90s , 11 years old carrying a gun. Not because I gangbanged … but because everyone else did… my uncles banged , cousins , foster parents … and sometimes you got a pass. Sometimes you didn’t…. It’s soooo much pressure depending on where you stay.
Tyrin Turner grew up in 52 Hoovaz
This is the one we been waiting for, the all time great movie, blackbusters LETS GET IT👍👍👍👍
Me too, surprised they took so long
Hell no Cooley high the all time great
Top 5 film for me. I remember seeing this in the theater when I was in the 7th grade. I was with other kids that went to my school and the ages ranged from 12-18. Most of the boys were rowdy but by the end... the rowdiest ones had tears in their eyes. This movie did a lot to change the mindset of the culture back in those days.
The Hughes Brothers didn’t put gang banging culture in the movie on purpose. They wanted to movie to universal to hood people nationwide. They didn’t want to put LA Gang culture that other people wouldn’t understand.
If they were repping hoods by name in the film the movie theaters would have been deadly
the crackhead was over acting
O-Dog gave him a shot with his over acting 😂
I'm interested ta see ya'll take on colors
That Leon aka Killer B scene was classic
A lot of over-acting awards 😂
Allen Hughs just did the Dear Mama docuseries
I’m glad somebody black did something like that. How “they” did all eyez on me was sad.
bruh what about the movie colors
Yeah I love to here their commentary on that , Colors was serious and funny at the same time !
My pops says he can't relate cuz it wasn't that bad when he grew up in Compton. He was there when the watts riots went off but was also living in the Hollywood hills when the Manson family killed that actress.
Damn that wild😮
my wifes grandparents lived in the Jordan projects i use to hate going over there to visit with a passion, and im from Pomona lol....but the crazy thing is the main crew was under 20 hell O-Dawg was 17 sheesh
I would watch Menace 2 Society in Kindergarten!
I couldn’t read the VHS tape but I had a photographic memory of what the tape looked like. The Roman Numeral 2!
When are you going to do the movie South Central with Glenn Plummer?
Aileenas cousin definitely gets the overacting award
Yes. He sucks😅
The Over acting award for me would be the crackhead, "I got two Dollas" 🤣😂🤣 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
To see all these real LA ninjas confirm the reality of Menace only stamps it as “The GREATEST HOOD FILM OF ALL TIME ”
Can y’all review Deep Cover?
Can you do Training Day ?
I grow up in different parts of LA back in the 80s and 90s. But them talking about the liquor store scene got me remembering what happen to the girl that got killed over a bottle of orange juice. smh.
Latasha
I always wondered what if Spice 1 took the role of O-Dog.
Y’all got some snaps on the Petro
How in the entire world are you three asking who gets the overacting award and sitting there struggling to think of who gets it y'all saying Caine and Mc eiht and the #1 over actor in any west coast film was literally in this movie.. quote "yo Patna my cousin don't like how you been treating her and I don't either" unquote....the nigga that when running to the car to get ready to do the drive-by and had to keep looking from side to side😅😅😅 before he jumped in the car he over acts in every movie he has ever been lucky enough to get a part in ...I love the dude he is a memorable character because of how his method of acting is..he was also in tales from the hood over acting like hell,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I can't remember his name but even when Caine stomped him his beat down was over acting they both did LMFAO!!!!!!!
All facts
The Ending Montage showed that O-Dog got caught by the Police, for the Tape, so he likely got FOREVER in Prison. I'd still like to see a Sequel focused on Him though.
As a New Yorker I'm getting a real education lesson on LA lol.
I'm from eastside of Detroit bro it's so relatable
waiting to see south central, coach carter, booty call, and eve's bayou! id love to hear your take on these movies!
Man this is the most interesting s*** I watched in a long time on RUclips. I appreciate y'all keep it up I'm a fan.
Gotta see if this was truly some sci fi hood movie with ODog being Caine’s alter ego. That would make pac and odog grammy award winning 🏆
The hoods yall calling out growing up in got me feeling like we should have crossed paths at some point.
Love this conversation. I'm glad this hit my youtube because once I sew you I follow you. I'm from NY and as an outsider I never knew or understood cali life. You guys painted a good picture. My question is this. As a male is there an age that you reach where you can travel through LA and not have to worry about getting into problems?
Good question
Can't wait till y'all do "TRAINING DAY"
One of my favorite parts of the movie when they pull up at the auto shop & he getting out the car & finds one of the kids toys 😂 .. great writing
Hood and Menace showed all the aspects of L.A. life and don’t show no gang activity
Menace II Society 2; The Life of Anthony "Ronny's Son"
This podcast and I have heard like 8 are so dope finally black sister and evert done the way I hear it and see it
OLD is the Ish!!!
Once Caine got in that car to get revenge his fate was sealed from then on
Lmfao the homie Watts look like pimp c
It wouldve been cool to see Caine see wilding at freak nick lol 😂
What part of Watts is Quan from?
Great show fellas!!!!!!
O-Dawg was like I don't give fxxk who out there. That was a classic line like most of the script but Menace is a Classic and a Hood Classic. I too would've been like Caine and not willing to kill kids, women, or old people. One question when Caine's Dad killed dude and was calling Caine's name but he was calling him KD too so how is his name spelled with a C?
Best comedy ever made
O dog went to prison
O-dog is only 15 in the movie Caine is 3 years older than o-dog
correction he was 16
This the one I've been waiting on.
Yeah yall got to revisit this mivie cause its so many parts yall didnt go over lol
Side note, I cant wait for yall to review Hustle and Flow. Im from Memphis and I got some stuff to say about that movie lol
I'm 41 and grew up in LA. All facts said on this podcast when it comes to moving around the city as a kid that didn't gang bang...
Albert Hughes just finished working on the John Wick TV show
Writing in relation to there wouldn't be Menace II Society without Boyz n the Hood, South Central was released the year after Boyz, and Colors was before all of them.
Here we go!! Back to a real Black Buster!!
Great vid and analyses. You made me laugh, but also feel like crying sometimes. Best wishes with everything...E
The scene about the Asian store.. Could have been flipped and the clerks shoots at them how the lady killed the young girl and got off with probation... That lite the fuse with blacks and Asians too
Yeah this review definitely gets 5 40s and a hot plate of bbq at the cookout- with chicken, ribs, and potato salad!✊🏽
I first saw this movie at the $1.50 movie theater growing up. If i could change the end of a movie it would be this one to where Caine & Sharif made it out of the hood. Watching this as an adult Caine had it coming & the movie did a great job of making hik look like the protagonist. Clifton Powell plays shady roles as well. If you look up the word typecast in the dictionary you’ll see Samuel Monroe Jr.’s picture. He’s never played a positive role. FunFacts: Spice 1 was supposed to be played Caine & MC Ren was supposed to played A-Wax.
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Over acting award goes to the dude who ran up on Kane because of the girl who said she was pregnant..the cousin who got beat up
Please do dead presidents which one of my fave movies . its a period piece , a heist movie , a war movie and a coming of age movie all i. One .
Menace 2 society is my second all-time movie after Belly. Can't wait for the Belly episode
great conversation being from Queens and watching Menace gave me a whole new perspective of how dudes was living on the westside
The least valuable player to me is the cheeseburger guy, the crackhead😂
O Dog was arrested at the end of the movie. Pay attention to the flash back.
They don't do the if they would cast the movie in these times anymore
Or if they did a part two
Yo jahh this mad random but one day yall gotta do The Wiz
Allen Hughes just did the dear mama series on l
FX
Out of all 36 episodes you don't have Cooley High know where .and that the number 1# ghetto aka hood movie
Nah it’s good. But nowhere near #1… not compared to Menace to society , 3 Strikes with the comedy , Boyz in the hood… etc. not saying Cooley high trash. But it’s not even top 5.
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You should do "Friday" next
Been waiting on this one for real ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾 all day
Yo tony costa used to be a cold ass rapper at Csun
The you’re the over actor on the podcast
Discuss. Y’all never review. 😂
Y'all gotta do fresh or clockers
Comment 11 great podcasts
Tone makes me feel seen in this one 11-Duece🍇
OMG😲😱 MY FAV MOVIE OF ALL TIME IS FINALLY GETTING THEM HOOD FLOWERS!!! MENACE... FAN SINCE A BABY & STILL LOVE THIS FILM FOR ALL REASONS BIG TIME!!! EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS FILM.... HISTORIC. THERE'S BOYZ N THE HOOD BUT MENACE... WAS BEYOND GRITTY GRIMY AND GUTTER... REAL LIFE THO!!! The biggest question is... Was that really Ilana's cousin? Notice he said a friend homie when Caine asked him Who wanna know who I am? #blackgoldenfist✊️
29:35 Tone brought up the Jheri Curl nigga in the back loading the uzi... THAT NIGGA LOOK CRAZY ASF!
This was such a great review.
Ooooh can't wait for this classic
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Love this one
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