What would happen if someone played in the style of Buddy Rich to a rock track? I'm not a drummer so it may be a ridiculous question so dont give me a hard time!
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I was the big fish in my pond. I won all the drumming awards, made the Monterey Jazz All Star band, and was accepted into North Texas School of Music. When I got there, every other drummer at the school was better than me. Nothing grounds you like a big slice of Humble Pie. This is when I got to work and improved my drumming by a lot. I know what you are talking about, Greyson, and good job taking that rejection and turning it around!
Thats the same experience that Pat Metheny had. Showed up at the University of Miami as a big deal in Kansas, went over to the gymnasium where students were warming up, saw Jaco Pastorius practicing and had an anxiety attack, if i remember the story correctly. Thats a formative and terrifying experience for a young musician. Like you clearly learned at UT (Great jazz program) the only remedy is practicing your ass off. Well done on your part!
@@Toddobvious Still around and still playing! I still have my flat ride Ed Soph drilled and rivited for me too! I basically LIVED in those practice rooms while I was there! Take care, brother! 🥁
We all have something to offer. No One can do what you do naturally better than what you do!! The point there is the only one you need to keep up with is yourself. As you develop and grow 30 minute practice turns into 60 and from there 60 minutes to 90 minutes and so on. Otherwise we just get into what we know as maintenance practice which there is nothing wrong with that either. Some guys have 90 minutes to work out. Some guys only have 30 minutes to work out. I always say making comparisons can sometimes be unfair. I say always share what you have learned, do what you can when you can and when it comes time to do a gig.... Play like there's no tomorrow!! God bless my brothers!! Always keep your chops up!!
At 8:23 , Buddy Rich jumped into his body. Grayson is off the charts incredible. His left hand is a machine gun. God willing he stays safe and has a wonderful career.
Joe Morello had the best left hand, and his ability to play odd time signatures so flawlessly when he was mostly blind his entire life makes it even more impressive.
….if you closely examine Rich’s technique you see that Greyson has his own…which works for him now, but if you want to execute like Rich then you have to master Gladstone…..
@@soundgarden8885not true Greyson stated taking lessons at the age 4, Buddy Rich at the age of 4 was playing in vaudeville. Buddy Rich could pick up things at very young age without practicing it he also admitted he never would have band practice because he never needed to practice those songs. But there is a lot drummers around that time with great left hands I’m a big fan of Rufus Speedy Jones which I would put his hand speed and foot speed up there with Buddy Rich they didn’t call Speedy for no reason also he the most famous double bass player in that era of jazz the first manger band speedy was in was the Count Basie big band which he has great solo in Whirlybird.
All I can say is wow!! I’m 46 and the attitude, work ethic and wisdom he has at 19 is incredible! Thank you so much for sharing your hard work in the drum community. Seems so many obstacles were overcome to get to this moment and the best is yet to come! Truly inspiring!
Greyson is in my opinion the greatest young jazz drummer in the world today ... his technique is phenomenal and he has so much control of his left hand ... his commitment and love of playing is unsurpassed ... soon he will be hailed as THE best player without a shadow of a doubt ... he is also a real sound humble grounded guy
Ishhhhh.... defenetly not. He needs at least a good 10 years to develop his taste, precision, tone / ballance . Its awesome that such a young cat is keeping this alive! Bug thumbs up. Can't wait to listen to him in 10 years
Eh. Definitely one of the best young big band drummers operating today. I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call him one of the greatest young jazz drummers. Big band music is such a small part of the jazz genre as a whole nowadays
@@ghostwitch644 well he is now playing for a major rock/metal band so that's a surprise ... if you can name another drummer his age as good I would like to know who it is .... anyone who has a left hand technique like Greyson is very unique and this guy does break down buddy rich licks beat for beat ... there's not many around who can do that ... none that I know of anyway.
@@jasfan8247 The Who? This kid is way too skilled for The Who. I don’t get the fascination with Moon, very sloppy, couldn’t play a song the same way twice, just a mad man that gig too much praise.
As a retired bigband drummer ,welllllll I didn't think I would ever say this but considering this young guys age, it just maybe possible, maybe that Grayson here eventually gets to somewhere where buddy was , I wont be hear to see it but Grayson just might get up there. Butch Miles got close so keep at it Grayson.
Woooow, that's awesome. Greyson is like a time machine, always ready to introduce history to young generations thru drumming. Best to see him lead his own orchestra, like Buddy did. 🥁🥁🥁
It's incredible how when he plays fast and loud it sort of looks so uncontrolled but is definitely under full control, you can hear how clean each note is played.
When I first saw Greyson play during a Drumeo course, I thought “how old is this kid”? Watch him every chance you get, because he’s an absolute prodigy! No doubt as he said himself in one video, it takes tons of practicing to play like he can. But look at his form, his sticking, his control over his hands and sticking approach. He very well may be the next GOAT!
"I think it's a fallacy that the harder you practice the better you get. You only get better by playing. You can sit around in the basement with a set of drums all day long and practice rudiments and try to develop speed, but until you start playing with a band, you can't learn technique, you can't learn taste, and you can't learn how to play with a band and FOR a band" - Buddy Rich
Greyson is extremely talented and motivated. He has managed to overcome all obstacles and make things work for him. Determined and ambitious, he has put up the work and has made it. Congratulations Greyson!
God bless Greyson! It's great to see a young lion keeping the big band flame alive. Buddy smiles on your efforts. In fact, you play the way Buddy did at your age.That's my highest compliment. Keep it up, brother. You have my gratitude, and respect!
You didn't go for a very common challenge when it came to learning the drums you went for the highest mountain and you've reached the top hours of studying and researching , not only have you achieved your goal your willing to share and pass on your knowledge you show great modesty and humility you dress smart and show great respect for people and the drumming world all round nice guy all the best to you....
Buddy Rich has been gone 47 years today, 4-2-24. Hey Buddy...THANKS FOR SHOWING US WHAT IS POSSIBLE. R.I.P BUDDY"BERNARD" RICH....I LOVE YOU! YOU WILL LIVE ON ETERNALLY.
I know you can’t please everyone but who would reject him from music school? Glad he was not discouraged but took it as a challenge, an opportunity to continue with his idea, move forward, and practice more. I learned to play drums late in life, 40s, and this guy is inspiring even if I am not striving to play at that level. But makes me want to practice more and do what I CAN do better.
Very talented player. I remember seeing a clinic with Billy Cobham back in the 70's. One of the first questions was, "Billy do you think you are the next Buddy Rich?" (At this stage, Billy was the hottest drummer in the scene). He replied, "I am not here to be the next Buddy Rich. I am here to be the best Billy Cobham I can be." There will never be another Buddy Rich. And there shouldn't be. And there isn't a "Best". I am much more interested in watching Greyson continue to mature and watch him augment his advanced technique with more and more musical choices that focus solely on what best suits what he is asked to play and who he plays with. Sometimes that might mean putting the chops in reserve and letting the bigger musical expression come out. Right now, he is an unbridled stallion. Unlimited power and facility. And that alone deserves massive respect as the amount of work that takes is beyond impressive. To that I say, very well done!!! He will develop more clarity and focus as he gets older, and he will only get better as a musician. Speed and the need to use it will slowly become secondary to the bigger overall delivery. It is the natural course of evolution and growth. That is what excites me the most! Continued success Greyson.
@@betulaobscura There are clearly elements of that. But again, he is very young, and hopefully he will learn as he matures that speed is just a very, VERY small element of what makes someone a great musician.
Cobham was one of Bonham's influences next to Buddy Rich and Purdy but I don't think he was better than Bonham !! Buddy Rich will not be duplicated but Greyson at 19 is sure making a statement .so grew to see !!!!!
I managed to see Buddy in my home town way back in the day.An incredible player with a monster technique.He was gracious to meet us fans afer the gig and give autographs.A swell guy. Cheers.
I absolutely love this entire video especially the personal story. I'm making my young kids watch this video. It's not about the drumming but the conviction, passion, focus and commitment! Inspiring.
Turning negatives into fuel for improvement, what a great outlook. Strive to be the best you in all you do. The best revenge when someone puts you down, get back up and be successful. Diamonds are made from coal after great pressure and time. Look forward to see his continued progress.
I’m not a drummer or musician so I don’t have the proper vocabulary to describe what I just listened to but in layman’s terms, your playing is truly inspiring! I watch a lot of drumming videos like this and one of the things that “makes” this video stand above most others is that you have your footwork filmed too. It is an important part of all drumming yet in most videos you’re unable what’s going down with your feet. Great production.
Keep in mind the norm of not showing that much isn't cuz people don't wanna show the footwork, but most folks can't afford cameras to get more than one angle. I'm glad everyday people have platforms at all. Heck, it's how Greyson came up...
This kid is driven and on a mission and goood God is he good. I need some double kick deadly jazz metal in my life and this kid can make it happen. Time is on his side.
I love that he always matches his style of clothes with his style of playing. Keeping it clean and professional. Can't wait to see his stuff years from now!
Not much of a drummer myself, I play guitar, but I’m really glad I watched this video! This Greyson kid is supremely talented and really intelligent. He brought up a lot of food for thought for musicians (and drummers) in general! Great stuff, Drumeo! Thanks for that!
Greyson i want to say your left hand was a gift from above but that would be a disservice to the relentless work you have put in. You will go down as one of the greats of the modern era and I hope that the work you have put in inspires ne drummers to challenge the limits they have set upon themselves voluntarily or involuntarily. Excited to see where the future takes you.
Pretty excellent interview Grayson , it is such an undestatement for people to understand what it takes time wise and commitment wise to be even just good at an instrument. The fact is not everyone knows at 17 what they want , and some like Grayson who decide this is what I want and I'm gonna work my ass off at it . Prove that excellence takes hours of really hard work. it doesn't matter what what it is , Music , Education , ART , it will allways take a huge commitment to be excellent at it !! Congratulations Grayson , I can definetly see the work you've done !! Excellent
Not only his mad skills make him great, it's also his passion and energy he brings to his performance, and his intuitive knowledge of musicality. If he wasn't already an ace on drums he could surely be great on any instrument. It's not only his talent but his hard work and dedication to the craft. It's why he's so humble. He knows what it took to get him here.
Say you don't have the skill to use a big kit without saying you don't have the skill to use a big kit Why would any musician see more notes as a bad thing? Lol
I wish this kid the best. He's got a lot going on for his age. Stay humble young man and you will go far. You play drums! Learn to play music and you will kill it!
Buddy was a alien. Saw him live many times especially @ Disneyland. Talked to him, signed an album & gave me a drumstick. Mind blowing performances. The jazz series at Carnation Gardens was incredible! Met many musicians during this time. Thanks “What it is” Buddy
The potential of where he will go is crazy because of his youth. He looks just like my nephew... lol. But amazing. If they ever do more Rich memorial concerts, this is the first drummer to call on the list. And headline it.
That's one long solo, but in all honesty, I am a drummer in mind only 😂. But as a musician that values an incredible talent on percussion. I have to say I've listened to some of the greatest drummers. He's way up there, and whoever gets him in their band is going places. They're going to have to be in the same league though. That could bring back swing music on a modern day level. Wish him much more success.
What a inspiration I was exactly like this young man 40 years ago doing school productions tv gigs and took another business path that was very successful but looking back it's not about money it's about the love of music that I'm still chasing. Fantastic video and inspiration. Respect Tim from Australia 🇦🇺
Obviously a fantastic player but what impresses me most is how mature he is, especially about becoming famous and acknowledging the pitfalls of this. Great role model for players of all ages!
Not sure what the "it" factor was that Buddy had, but lightning struck once never to be repeated. Buddy was absolutely riveting, in a way no other drummer has ever matched. There was electricity in the air when Buddy played, and anyone who was lucky enough to see him in concert knows what I'm talking about.
Seen Buddy four times I was 15 years old still playing at 70,still listening and learning the way Buddy played, to watch Buddy live reminds me as I was fast and out to impress, Buddy put me back in my place the man was inhuman power speed mixed with artistry the rest as they say is history
@@internettoughguy Fortunately, that was not my experience when meeting him. Professionally, from what I understand, he was demanding, assertive, and did not suffer fools, a mercurial genius. But there was another side to him as well, and he was beloved by those who really knew him. I think he was a complex man.
Buddy was the smoothest drummer I had ever seen. Always under control. Technically superior to any other drummer on this Earth. Don't take my word for it - just listen to the difference between his playing and Greyson's. Greyson is a fantastic drummer with GOAT potential but even he wasn't as smooth as Buddy was.
Buddy had extremely fast hands as does Greyson but Buddy had much more power. When Buddy hit rimshots, you heard them over everything, loud and clear. You felt them. Greyson has a lighter sound. He's a smaller guy with smaller arms and hands. Buddy had very strong forearms. As Greyson matures, it will be interesting to hear his playing change.
Totally with him on the whole "overplaying" thing. Sure, some people really do overplay to a ridiculous degree where it's totally inappropriate, like putting tons of ghostnotes and fills in a AC/DC song. But, on the other hand, if the situation allows for it, you can often play a lot of stuff and still be very musical, and some other musicians can't seem to understand that because they look at drummers mostly as a glorified metronome. I mean, imagine if people like Neil Peart, Danny Carey, Brann Dailor or any of the drummers Greyson mentioned had listened to this generic advice of "don't overplay!", would we know any of their names? Would their bands have gotten the recognition they have today? There will always be people who try to put limits on you, put you in a tiny box because "that's the way to do XYZ", and also because that's the way they live their own lives, but if you want to be truly creative and leave your own footsteps instead of merely walking in somebody else's, you have to quote "Killing in the Name of" to them lol.
There's no such thing as "the greatest ever" artist. It's not a competition. Buddy was certainly one of the most influential drummers (not so much anymore, but to his contemporaries and the generation after his - definitely). Personally, I prefer Joe Morello or Tony Williams over Buddy, when it comes to musicality. From technical perspective - yeah, Buddy was a beast and probably a top dog *in his time* . There are many modern drummers, playing various genres other than big band jazz, who surpassed Buddy in that department (Dave Weckl, Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Matt Garstka, just to name a few). Buddy is a legend, but music and drumming didn't stop evolving with him and his generation. :)
Dave Brubeck once said Buddy Rich and Joe Morello had a drum battle that "lasted all afternoon." I would certainly give Buddy the edge on power, and Joe on musicality. It comes down to how we can evaluate. When I was a kid I asked my dad what made Krupa better than me and he replied "he can do everything you can and more." I've always thought that was a fair watermark for good, better and best. But I agree, as we approach the pinnacle of playing, style, not technique, determines a drummer's worth. Technique is like tools in a tool box, and the best players all have similar tools, it's what they do with them that defines who they are as musicians. Just my two cents.
@@robertbruner7429 Absolutely agree - technique is just a means to an end, no the end goal itself. Buddy could pull off some crazy fast singles, but I always found his drum solos boring and chaotic in comparison to the likes of Morello or Gadd. Billy Cobham also liked to play fast and flashy, but I like his solos better, since, in my opinion and taste, they had more groove and structure to them.
Tony Williams better than Buddy? c'mon...and Joe... ok he is a fine drummer, but Buddy is Buddy. He has ispired millions of drummers. If you listen the interviews of modern drummers, almost all have taken inspiration from Buddy. Anyway as you said it is also a personal feeling, so I respect your personal taste
Bonham had technique similar to Morello and Rich but he applied it in commercial music and was inventive, he had groove, musicality, feel and sound but he also died young, he lived shorter than all of this great drummers. Because of how much he achieved in short period of time he is the greatest Rock drummer and beyond.
Grayson is fantastic and I can't wait to see him playing with great musicians creating great musics. The trouble with these displays is the music backing is sterile and it is all about foregrounding his brilliant pyrotchnics but I can't wait to see him interracting with other musicians in say a quartet or whatever. The greatest drummers imho were the ones that contributed to the great groups. Buddy Rich is said to best and in terms of speed and power he was the tops but as a really musical drummer? As a big band drummer Grayson must be up there with Rich but don't you want to see him play in a smaller group and see how he plays in that context? I am sure he'll prove he is right up.there with the very best.
You are awesome sir I'm a firm believer when buddy passed away you were gifted with his talent just like he does keep working at it and you're going to be just like him
I don’t think you can call any drummer the greatest because there as so many drummers with different styles but Buddy was certainly up there with the greatest legends of the drumming world!
so you like overplaying you like stepping on soloists you like no dynamics you like what exactly? hype of his own making? good lord grow a pair of ears for christs sakes..
It was actually reassuring to see him throw a stick. Drummers drop sticks sometimes, but they tend to edit it out, which gives the impression that they never do. Every drummer has a stick holder for a reason. ❤️✌️
Buddy and Bonham are definitely the most influential drummers of all time. The thing about Bonham is that he died young and he never stopped growing while he was alive, so you can only imagine how much we lost by loosing him.
Would be really cool to se a mic placement rundown on a recording like this! Seems like the guy recordning made some stylistic choises not usually seen in modern drum micing :) Sounds great
Buddy was in another level and I get why people think he’s the greatest, but it really depends on how you see drumming to make a statement like that. It’s a matter of taste
To be honest I have seen drummer who are better like Tony Royster, and Eric Moore. He is good but let’s be real they are drummers that can put play him
this jerky fool wont even get ten levels below buddy hes terrible hes no musician overplaying like a jerk stepping on soloisyts its a god forsaken mess i heard 2 mins of it and will never waste another 2 mins again..but the real disgusting thing is how he tries so desperatly to compare himself to buddy..when hes not even close..theres this chinese kid that cops buddy almost to a scary level ok its a copy but its done correctly have you seen him yet? check him out its buddy incarnate almost creepy.. but even he doesnt compare himself to br he pays him due tribute so i usually hate copy cats but in that kids case i make an exception he does it that well..that i can listen to this noise> no just fffn noo
So impressive, and I love it that you both dressed up for the occasion. Classy! I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that music schools wouldn't even give Greyson auditions. I hope those in charge are asking themselves what's broken in their admission systems that would allow them to turn away talent like Greyson's.
This kid is obviously talented, but some schools don't want a kid who does a 45 minute solo and all kinds of showing off. They look for drummers with a good ear who can play and compliment the other members of the band. Especially a big band. The drummer is the quarterback. There are so many subtleties to being a good big band drummer. Not just soloing. Anyways. I wish him the best of luck.
Thank you.... I thought I seen the best.... I was ignorant... Woah absolutely stunningly beautiful. Thanks again hope your life is blessed.. you just blessed mine...
What I think has been missed, beyond Big Bands in general, was how Buddy DROVE a band. IMO, Buddy played for the song while playing with style and flash. He found a way to balance a certain amount of showing off with playing what was perfect for the song. No one has ever played Time Check as well as Buddy did. Buddy played that song in a way that no one else has, and the way he played it was far better than anyone else I've ever heard play it. The point of all that is this - Greyson could be the guy that brings that kind of drumming back. He just needs a Big Band to play with him. All of this is for nothing if he doesn't put together a Big Band and record albums and play live gigs.
Pa Pa Joe Jones 1911 - 1985 . big band drummer . One of the best . He played with a big smile on his face, he was enjoying his own playing and so was the audience. played with Count Basie and every one that was recognized as talented in the jazz era. pioneered the use of brushes , and shifting the ride pattern from the hi hat to a large cymbal called the ride cymbal. EDIT not to be confused with Philly Joe Jones 1923 - 1985 . a drummer who played with Miles Davis . Philly Joe Jones and Pa Pa Joe Jones died just days apart . RIP
Greyson utilizes his fingers to maximize his speed also strikes his crash and ride cymbal from underneath a legitimate technique that he could explain better than i. he would agree i believe that you learn a lot from doing things that sound good even if not considered orthodox by critics and drum authorities mainly teachers . if it SOUNDS good it's legit . the only bad techniques are ones then can damage your hands, feet, posture, etc. IMO
The kit has nothing to do with it. If you can do it on a large kit, you can do it on a small kit. That isn't even a factor. He did more because he had to because he preferred a small kit. You can still implement fewer drums on a larger kit. This is a moot point.
@@paulburke407 Exactly. There simply is no best. Buddy was best at being Buddy, but he couldn't do a lot of what Weckl does, nor could Dave do a lot of what Buddy did. Buddy couldn't touch what Thomas Lang can do or Virgil Donati or Chris Coleman or Vinnie, etc. He could, however, do some things they couldn't. No drummer is best at every aspect of drumming. He was amazing, but not the best, nor is anyone else.
@@tortillasarenotbiceps7622 I appreciate your point...as a drummer myself, I think simply enjoying music - regardless of the skill level of the drummer - can be important...with this said, once someone starts the "best drummer" debate/war, the assessments may be skewed by e.g., personal preference, exposure to different drummers, exposure to differing music genres, differing standards for skill aspects, and non-standardization of skill aspect standards themselves...I think an "upper echelon" category eases the "best drummer" to a degree (but not totally - the debate/war of "Who makes the cut?" could still exist)...
Thomas Lang, El Estapario, and Greyson are my favorite drummers to watch on You tube. Lang best drummer I’ve ever seen in my life. All 3 of them are amazing.
Buddy Rich was incredible. Although I think his drumming is a bit difficult to grasp and not the most musical, what Virgil Donati can do behind the drums is un real.
Grayson you are phenomenal… FYI. Buddy was my idol too when I first /started playing.. In 1974ish. I actually got to meet Buddy between sets at the Green County Jazz Festival in Oklahoma.. He had played the first set and then He walked backstage, and so did I… haha He was sitting alone on a bar stool with a big sweat towel around his neck.. He was so friendly, and we chatted for a few… He asked if I played and I said yes sir.. he signed my copy of the set list from the show.. he told me to “keep practicing” We shook hands and I went back to my seat..It was so amazing standing next to someone I had spent hours and hours listening to, and had seen so often on television… he was a real gentleman one on one.. I’m so glad I got to see him perform and meet him before he passed away..
I have listened to this kid many times now, his drive passion and technique is truly staggering, and that's were it ends. Every track is insanely busy, so busy that he completely overrides all the musicians around him even when others are soloing. Buddy does not reside in him, Buddy knew when to cut loose and when not too, this guy rips through every track at 245 mph NOT GOOD
You are absolutely right, unfortunately I don't think this will be the prevailing opinion here. Buddy was one of the most musical big band drummers, always knew exactly what to play to support the musicians around him (like all the best drummers). When it came to soloing, he had chops, but more importantly he had musicality. Luckily, this kid is young and has time to mature as a player - but let's not pretend he is in the same hemisphere as someone like Buddy Rich. If this kid wants to go deeper into this music (jazz) and understand how to play it, it would do him well to go back and study the musicians who were the pioneers (not just drummers).
Yeah I have to wonder if this was behind all the rejections. Basically all these schools got an audition tape with searing chops and were like nah let's not bring in a dude who is gonna step all over the rest of the musicians in the bands. Max Roach is another good example of a guy who would be doing just a ton of searing fast playing in the background but who knew exactly how to do it quietly and in a way that filled space rather than sucked up air. The people who do admissions for places like UNT, Berklee, etc., are often fairly conservative stylistically as well. Seeing someone just trying to blast through with showboating tends to piss those guys off. It's no different than the classical world where you have long time musicians and fans view people like Lang Lang as trashy and off putting whereas most "regular" people would think he's incredible.
@@valarking yes, and it seems instead of taking those rejections in stride and learning what he could’ve improved, he responded with a ‘well screw you all’ attitude. I guess overall this was a good business decision (people seem to enjoy the flashy chops I guess), but I don’t see a whole lot of musicality in his concept.
My 2 cents.The late John Blackwell is the Goat!All syles of music an innovator who also shared his techniques which is unheard because most great technical and showmanship drummers try to hide their secrets.
Buddy Rich is my all time favorite drummer. The man was from another planet. I'm so glad y'all did this!!! Spectacular. The Big Band era was so amazing, and very different from free jazz... much easier to consume. My hope for future generation of musicians and music consumers is being restored little by little.
In my opinion he's like The reincarnation of Buddy Rich I mean his left hand is deadly and so fast and makes it look so easy but it's not.. he will definitely go down history as one of the best drummers that has ever blessed this Earth he's incredible..He just seems like a really down-to-earth person that would answer question for you or teach you how to do something those guys are hard to come by. But without a doubt it prodigy in itself..
If you're going to compare Greyson to Buddy, I'll tell you this. Greyson has quick hands BUT NOWHERE near the power of a Buddy Rich, Butch Miles or Louie Bellson. Greyson has a very light touch which is fine. His rim shots are very light. I prefer the power, the hard rim shots that cut through everything & bang you over the head when you hear them. I don't hear this with Greyson at all. It's all just quick and light. He's like a Buddy Rich Light. LOL..That weird thing his fingers do - going in and out when he's playing singles is a little different. Watching Buddy play fast singles is like art. When Buddy played, you felt it. Buddy had very strong forearms. Greyson is not as strong, .but I do like his playing. He's a nice kid and he's dedicated.
Grayson's playing is like the eternal struggle between the light side and the dark side. It's like his consciousness is trying to stay jazz but his emotional physicality wants to rock out. In classic times he'd have been too extreme but you can't deny his passion!
Elvin Jones is the best drummer I ever heard because he was the most lyrical and made the most important music. That should be the metric. I never thought Rich made any important music - at least not with his orchestra. Name one essential Buddy Rich solo album (good luck). Whereas I can name 5 albums Elvin played on that absolutely belong in every jazz aficionados collection, or any serious music fans collection. Rich’s session work with certain great artists (e.g. Charlie Parker) was good but not astounding. The best musician is the most musical and Elvin wins that race by a country mile, not that musically bigoted megalomaniac. Rich had great skill but not important, indelible songs. It’s what you do with your talent that matters most.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "greatest". What you're describing sounds like it would make Jones a better musician. Being able to perform more complex technical pieces would make you a better drummer.
@@twill5626 Nonsense. Ringo Starr is an infinitely better drummer than buddy rich because he is a decent person, played on some of the most important albums ever made and did so with style and gravity. You can be the most skilled sharp shooter (sniper) in the entire world but if you can’t keep your hand from shaking your rifle when an invading army is coming to town then you are worthless. Music (the harnessing and composition of alterations in sound waves) is what matters where the rubber meets the road. Music is what matters to musicians. Being able to dazzle people with what you can do on the drum kit when your soloing is about ego not meaningful composition. Pure and simple. It’s what has been crafted for the ages to enjoy that carries weight. I get so sick and tired of people pretending like having some kind of unexampled skill set is important when the actual thing that goes on a record or gets played live only inspires awe in someone’s capacity to freakishly move around the kit, or some other feat of adroitness. At days end that shit doesn’t matter. Obviously rich was blessed by God with skill but his boorish musical snobbery and compositional mediocrity matters far, far more and those who disagree have no idea why music matters. Give me Elvin, who loved and respected numerous forms of music and who played, as Townes Van Zant put it so pithily, “for the sake of the song.” Obviously Elvin had the chops, but it’s what he did with them that mesmerizes, not merely some exhibition of elaborate showiness.
Elvin and Buddy are from different generations, and play completely different styles of music. They are both in my mind equally important in the development of the drum kit as an instrument, Jazz drumming and drumming/music in general. Elvin supposedly once picked Buddy Rich up by his legs and hoisted him aloft after a drum jam at Newport jazz festival and declared that Buddy was the greatest. It speaks volumes that Buddy Rich didn't use his karate on Elvin right there and then. He wouldn't have dared. Elvin was too big. Haha.
@@mancuniancandidatem I’m sure Elvin did that out of humility. Couldn’t care less about some competition for who says they are the better drummer. Like I said before, the one who makes the best music is the best drummer. Anyone who disagrees with that has absolutely no idea why playing the drums is of any moment whatsoever. Show me a quintessential Buddy Rich solo album. You can’t. It doesn’t exist. But Elvin Jones played on some of the most innovative, majestic and indelible albums ever made. His solo albums are only beginning to be appreciated the way they should be. It’s not even close. Skill is important only insofar as it amounts to beauty. Realize it.
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What would happen if someone played in the style of Buddy Rich to a rock track?
I'm not a drummer so it may be a ridiculous question so dont give me a hard time!
@@crackerdan8010 it would sure be interesting to see.
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Yes! Fellow drummer’s, if you haven’t already, join Drumeo for a year (at least)! I’ve been playing since 1978 (yes, I’m old at 56), I’ve had 5 different one on one teachers during all that time, I attended the Arts Magnet in Dallas for high school, but with that being said , joining Drumeo is by far the best teaching method I’ve ever seen. You WILL become a better drummer period. The Drumeo Method is simply a genius approach to teaching you how to play whatever your weaknesses are, get past that wall of playing the same old beats you’ve been playing for years. From beginner’s to advanced drummers the Drumeo Method again will make you a better drummer. Simply the best choice I’ve ever made.
I was the big fish in my pond. I won all the drumming awards, made the Monterey Jazz All Star band, and was accepted into North Texas School of Music. When I got there, every other drummer at the school was better than me. Nothing grounds you like a big slice of Humble Pie. This is when I got to work and improved my drumming by a lot. I know what you are talking about, Greyson, and good job taking that rejection and turning it around!
Thats the same experience that Pat Metheny had. Showed up at the University of Miami as a big deal in Kansas, went over to the gymnasium where students were warming up, saw Jaco Pastorius practicing and had an anxiety attack, if i remember the story correctly. Thats a formative and terrifying experience for a young musician. Like you clearly learned at UT (Great jazz program) the only remedy is practicing your ass off. Well done on your part!
Hey man, I remember you! You ran into my truck behind the practice rooms 😁 nice to see you’re still out there man ✌️
@@Toddobvious Still around and still playing! I still have my flat ride Ed Soph drilled and rivited for me too! I basically LIVED in those practice rooms while I was there! Take care, brother! 🥁
We all have something to offer. No One can do what you do naturally better than what you do!! The point there is the only one you need to keep up with is yourself. As you develop and grow 30 minute practice turns into 60 and from there 60 minutes to 90 minutes and so on. Otherwise we just get into what we know as maintenance practice which there is nothing wrong with that either. Some guys have 90 minutes to work out. Some guys only have 30 minutes to work out. I always say making comparisons can sometimes be unfair. I say always share what you have learned, do what you can when you can and when it comes time to do a gig.... Play like there's no tomorrow!! God bless my brothers!! Always keep your chops up!!
Music isn’t a competition. Playing is. I choose to be a musician not a player.
At 8:23 , Buddy Rich jumped into his body. Grayson is off the charts incredible. His left hand is a machine gun. God willing he stays safe and has a wonderful career.
Joe Morello had the best left hand, and his ability to play odd time signatures so flawlessly when he was mostly blind his entire life makes it even more impressive.
….if you closely examine Rich’s technique you see that
Greyson has his own…which works for him now, but if you want to execute like Rich then you have to master Gladstone…..
Has nothing to do with God. Self tought, self done. No help from nobody.
@@soundgarden8885not true Greyson stated taking lessons at the age 4, Buddy Rich at the age of 4 was playing in vaudeville. Buddy Rich could pick up things at very young age without practicing it he also admitted he never would have band practice because he never needed to practice those songs. But there is a lot drummers around that time with great left hands I’m a big fan of Rufus Speedy Jones which I would put his hand speed and foot speed up there with Buddy Rich they didn’t call Speedy for no reason also he the most famous double bass player in that era of jazz the first manger band speedy was in was the Count Basie big band which he has great solo in Whirlybird.
@@soundgarden8885 that's not what the comment even means
All I can say is wow!! I’m 46 and the attitude, work ethic and wisdom he has at 19 is incredible! Thank you so much for sharing your hard work in the drum community. Seems so many obstacles were overcome to get to this moment and the best is yet to come! Truly inspiring!
Absolutely incredible playing young man.
Greyson is in my opinion the greatest young jazz drummer in the world today ... his technique is phenomenal and he has so much control of his left hand ... his commitment and love of playing is unsurpassed ... soon he will be hailed as THE best player without a shadow of a doubt ... he is also a real sound humble grounded guy
Ishhhhh.... defenetly not. He needs at least a good 10 years to develop his taste, precision, tone / ballance . Its awesome that such a young cat is keeping this alive! Bug thumbs up. Can't wait to listen to him in 10 years
@@stephanerancourt7188 I* did say young drummer lol ..anyhow he has now joined world famous rock band which is quite a surprise
Eh. Definitely one of the best young big band drummers operating today. I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call him one of the greatest young jazz drummers. Big band music is such a small part of the jazz genre as a whole nowadays
@@ghostwitch644 well he is now playing for a major rock/metal band so that's a surprise ... if you can name another drummer his age as good I would like to know who it is .... anyone who has a left hand technique like Greyson is very unique and this guy does break down buddy rich licks beat for beat ... there's not many around who can do that ... none that I know of anyway.
@@stephanerancourt7188 ok then who's the best young jazz drummer in the world today?
Surely one of the greatest drummer of all time, and when he goes on like this he will stand in the same row one day … 😊 So great!
Supreme playing .He could play in The Who.
He is great, but don’t call him Shirley
I love The Who but I don't see a drummer like that in a band like The Who. I'd rather see him in a challenge with the Muppet Show’s Animal. 😉
@@Alfombrafix Buddy Rich did that battle. This guy looks in playing a lot like Moon=Animal😵
@@jasfan8247 The Who? This kid is way too skilled for The Who. I don’t get the fascination with Moon, very sloppy, couldn’t play a song the same way twice, just a mad man that gig too much praise.
As a retired bigband drummer ,welllllll I didn't think I would ever say this but considering this young guys age, it just maybe possible, maybe that Grayson here eventually gets to somewhere where buddy was , I wont be hear to see it but Grayson just might get up there. Butch Miles got close so keep at it Grayson.
Hope u see it
I guess getting a band together and playing 7 nights a week would help.
@@xDaesongRose he wont this is crap..overplaying non musical crap and the comparison is moronic..someone had to say it
Well said
Woooow, that's awesome. Greyson is like a time machine, always ready to introduce history to young generations thru drumming. Best to see him lead his own orchestra, like Buddy did. 🥁🥁🥁
It's incredible how when he plays fast and loud it sort of looks so uncontrolled but is definitely under full control, you can hear how clean each note is played.
When I first saw Greyson play during a Drumeo course, I thought “how old is this kid”? Watch him every chance you get, because he’s an absolute prodigy! No doubt as he said himself in one video, it takes tons of practicing to play like he can. But look at his form, his sticking, his control over his hands and sticking approach. He very well may be the next GOAT!
What A Like About A Drum Solo Is The Camera Shots Of Greyson Nekrutman's Footwork.
Ok buddy started at age 2
@@bretdorton okay?
@@AlexCruz-md6hb he is a prodigy. Given time for his body of work to expand, will tell the tale.👍
@@bretdorton Greyson Nekrutman Shoes.
He's such a melodic player while playing with a ton of energy, I can't imagine how fun it would be to play with him
"I think it's a fallacy that the harder you practice the better you get. You only get better by playing. You can sit around in the basement with a set of drums all day long and practice rudiments and try to develop speed, but until you start playing with a band, you can't learn technique, you can't learn taste, and you can't learn how to play with a band and FOR a band" - Buddy Rich
Saw Buddy twice as a wee boy in Scotland. Got to shake his hand. Greyson, you are keeping this art alive. Just fantastic. Sublime.
Greyson is extremely talented and motivated. He has managed to overcome all obstacles and make things work for him. Determined and ambitious, he has put up the work and has made it. Congratulations Greyson!
God bless Greyson! It's great to see a young lion keeping the big band flame alive. Buddy smiles on your efforts. In fact, you play the way Buddy did at your age.That's my highest compliment. Keep it up, brother. You have my gratitude, and respect!
Robert 😊👋
Kids got skill. Love it that young people are doing this, listening to the history, carrying it. Great job.
You didn't go for a very common challenge when it came to learning the drums you went for the highest mountain and you've reached the top hours of studying and researching , not only have you achieved your goal your willing to share and pass on your knowledge you show great modesty and humility you dress smart and show great respect for people and the drumming world all round nice guy all the best to you....
Buddy Rich has been gone 47 years today, 4-2-24. Hey Buddy...THANKS FOR SHOWING US WHAT IS POSSIBLE. R.I.P BUDDY"BERNARD" RICH....I LOVE YOU! YOU WILL LIVE ON ETERNALLY.
Buddy was a great drummer, and he’d never let you forget either!
I know you can’t please everyone but who would reject him from music school? Glad he was not discouraged but took it as a challenge, an opportunity to continue with his idea, move forward, and practice more.
I learned to play drums late in life, 40s, and this guy is inspiring even if I am not striving to play at that level. But makes me want to practice more and do what I CAN do better.
Maybe he sucked back then lol. After all he said that's what inspired him to work harder
Greyson is so full of energy it makes me sweat just looking at him. This young man is in top league.
Mind blowing! I’m so glad someone is able to pick up that heavy mantle and wear it!
Greyson's skills and technique are out of this world. First time I saw him in a video I said to myself "the next Buddy Rich"
would be better for him to step out of the shade and be the next Greyson
Hello 👋
I saw Buddy Rich perform live, and this kid's got it! Wow! Looking forward to watching him grow.
Very talented player.
I remember seeing a clinic with Billy Cobham back in the 70's. One of the first questions was, "Billy do you think you are the next Buddy Rich?" (At this stage, Billy was the hottest drummer in the scene). He replied, "I am not here to be the next Buddy Rich. I am here to be the best Billy Cobham I can be." There will never be another Buddy Rich. And there shouldn't be. And there isn't a "Best".
I am much more interested in watching Greyson continue to mature and watch him augment his advanced technique with more and more musical choices that focus solely on what best suits what he is asked to play and who he plays with. Sometimes that might mean putting the chops in reserve and letting the bigger musical expression come out.
Right now, he is an unbridled stallion. Unlimited power and facility. And that alone deserves massive respect as the amount of work that takes is beyond impressive. To that I say, very well done!!! He will develop more clarity and focus as he gets older, and he will only get better as a musician. Speed and the need to use it will slowly become secondary to the bigger overall delivery. It is the natural course of evolution and growth.
That is what excites me the most!
Continued success Greyson.
You deserve a like for writing all this man
This is so obvious but people are still obsessed mostly with speed and technique - not musicality.
@@betulaobscura There are clearly elements of that. But again, he is very young, and hopefully he will learn as he matures that speed is just a very, VERY small element of what makes someone a great musician.
@@pjones8404 Nothing to add, I agree! Happy New Year 2023!
Cobham was one of Bonham's influences next to Buddy Rich and Purdy but I don't think he was better than Bonham !!
Buddy Rich will not be duplicated but Greyson at 19 is sure making a statement .so grew to see !!!!!
I managed to see Buddy in my home town way back in the day.An incredible player with a monster technique.He was gracious to meet us fans afer the gig and give autographs.A swell guy.
Cheers.
Nice one Steve x
I absolutely love this entire video especially the personal story. I'm making my young kids watch this video. It's not about the drumming but the conviction, passion, focus and commitment! Inspiring.
Turning negatives into fuel for improvement, what a great outlook. Strive to be the best you in all you do. The best revenge when someone puts you down, get back up and be successful. Diamonds are made from coal after great pressure and time. Look forward to see his continued progress.
I’m not a drummer or musician so I don’t have the proper vocabulary to describe what I just listened to but in layman’s terms, your playing is truly inspiring! I watch a lot of drumming videos like this and one of the things that “makes” this video stand above most others is that you have your footwork filmed too. It is an important part of all drumming yet in most videos you’re unable what’s going down with your feet. Great production.
Keep in mind the norm of not showing that much isn't cuz people don't wanna show the footwork, but most folks can't afford cameras to get more than one angle. I'm glad everyday people have platforms at all. Heck, it's how Greyson came up...
Thanks Drumeo and Grayson, this was the best TEDx talk ever
This kid is driven and on a mission and goood God is he good. I need some double kick deadly jazz metal in my life and this kid can make it happen. Time is on his side.
Love Greyson's playing, love his attitude towards drumming!
Incredible, Greyson is a young master! Thank you for the inspiration !
I love that he always matches his style of clothes with his style of playing. Keeping it clean and professional. Can't wait to see his stuff years from now!
This guy is great! A true student of the instrument. Took inspiration and made it his own. Makes me want to hop on my drums now. 🥁
Amazing!!!! Soooo awesome and I love that accent 💯❤️
Not much of a drummer myself, I play guitar, but I’m really glad I watched this video! This Greyson kid is supremely talented and really intelligent. He brought up a lot of food for thought for musicians (and drummers) in general! Great stuff, Drumeo! Thanks for that!
Greyson i want to say your left hand was a gift from above but that would be a disservice to the relentless work you have put in. You will go down as one of the greats of the modern era and I hope that the work you have put in inspires ne drummers to challenge the limits they have set upon themselves voluntarily or involuntarily. Excited to see where the future takes you.
Pretty excellent interview Grayson , it is such an undestatement for people to understand what it takes time wise and commitment wise to be even just good at an instrument. The fact is not everyone knows at 17 what they want , and some like Grayson who decide this is what I want and I'm gonna work my ass off at it . Prove that excellence takes hours of really hard work. it doesn't matter what what it is , Music , Education , ART , it will allways take a huge commitment to be excellent at it !! Congratulations Grayson , I can definetly see the work you've done !! Excellent
Not only his mad skills make him great, it's also his passion and energy he brings to his performance, and his intuitive knowledge of musicality. If he wasn't already an ace on drums he could surely be great on any instrument. It's not only his talent but his hard work and dedication to the craft. It's why he's so humble. He knows what it took to get him here.
There will never be another as great as Buddy. But this kid is a very talented young man!!!
This kid is a phenomenal! Great job Greyson. You are an inspiration!
I think this is so much cooler than having a double kick with an 18 piece attached to it!!
Although if that is done right, I think that's amazing too
Say you don't have the skill to use a big kit without saying you don't have the skill to use a big kit
Why would any musician see more notes as a bad thing? Lol
@HugoStiglitz88
If you do more with less, or even the same with less, then that requires more skill and musicianship.
I wish this kid the best. He's got a lot going on for his age. Stay humble young man and you will go far. You play drums! Learn to play music and you will kill it!
Buddy was a alien. Saw him live many times especially @ Disneyland. Talked to him, signed an album & gave me a drumstick. Mind blowing performances. The jazz series at Carnation Gardens was incredible! Met many musicians during this time. Thanks “What it is” Buddy
The potential of where he will go is crazy because of his youth. He looks just like my nephew... lol. But amazing. If they ever do more Rich memorial concerts, this is the first drummer to call on the list. And headline it.
YESSS! This dude plays with the intensity of 1000 burning suns. I love it. Well done.
That's one long solo, but in all honesty, I am a drummer in mind only 😂. But as a musician that values an incredible talent on percussion. I have to say I've listened to some of the greatest drummers. He's way up there, and whoever gets him in their band is going places. They're going to have to be in the same league though. That could bring back swing music on a modern day level. Wish him much more success.
Yes! 👍
What a inspiration I was exactly like this young man 40 years ago doing school productions tv gigs and took another business path that was very successful but looking back it's not about money it's about the love of music that I'm still chasing. Fantastic video and inspiration. Respect Tim from Australia 🇦🇺
Obviously a fantastic player but what impresses me most is how mature he is, especially about becoming famous and acknowledging the pitfalls of this. Great role model for players of all ages!
This is amazing. I love watching old Buddy videos but sound recording has come so far that this is more watchable than most old Buddy videos.
Watch Hawaiian War Chant, amazing vid.
I'm 62 been playing for 45 years and appreciate all styles. Buddy Rich is definately the G.O.A.T. This guy may take his place.
An amazing young legend and a true prodigy who has taken all aspects of drumming to a new level 😎
Not sure what the "it" factor was that Buddy had, but lightning struck once never to be repeated. Buddy was absolutely riveting, in a way no other drummer has ever matched. There was electricity in the air when Buddy played, and anyone who was lucky enough to see him in concert knows what I'm talking about.
Seen Buddy four times I was 15 years old still playing at 70,still listening and learning the way Buddy played, to watch Buddy live reminds me as I was fast and out to impress, Buddy put me back in my place the man was inhuman power speed mixed with artistry the rest as they say is history
From what I understand he was a very unpleasant individual.
@@internettoughguy Fortunately, that was not my experience when meeting him. Professionally, from what I understand, he was demanding, assertive, and did not suffer fools, a mercurial genius. But there was another side to him as well, and he was beloved by those who really knew him. I think he was a complex man.
Buddy was the smoothest drummer I had ever seen. Always under control. Technically superior to any other drummer on this Earth. Don't take my word for it - just listen to the difference between his playing and Greyson's. Greyson is a fantastic drummer with GOAT potential but even he wasn't as smooth as Buddy was.
Buddy had extremely fast hands as does Greyson but Buddy had much more power. When Buddy hit rimshots, you heard them over everything, loud and clear. You felt them. Greyson has a lighter sound. He's a smaller guy with smaller arms and hands. Buddy had very strong forearms. As Greyson matures, it will be interesting to hear his playing change.
Maaan, thanks for the Sonny Payne namedrop/shout out Greyson. You just threw me into a whole new jazz rabbit hole I'm happy to indulge in. Bless.
I saw this live when it was streaming on youtube
and you're damn right Ima going to watch it again lmao its too good
Hey 👋 Joshua 😎
Amazing. Truly this kid is already one of the all time greats. Can't wait to see how far he takes it.
I played percussion from 5th-9th grade but stopped so I could take chorus. This makes me wish I had been able to do both. Just fantastic.
Well Phil Collins, Jesus Molina & Jacob Collier do almost all ....why can't you ?
Totally with him on the whole "overplaying" thing. Sure, some people really do overplay to a ridiculous degree where it's totally inappropriate, like putting tons of ghostnotes and fills in a AC/DC song. But, on the other hand, if the situation allows for it, you can often play a lot of stuff and still be very musical, and some other musicians can't seem to understand that because they look at drummers mostly as a glorified metronome. I mean, imagine if people like Neil Peart, Danny Carey, Brann Dailor or any of the drummers Greyson mentioned had listened to this generic advice of "don't overplay!", would we know any of their names? Would their bands have gotten the recognition they have today?
There will always be people who try to put limits on you, put you in a tiny box because "that's the way to do XYZ", and also because that's the way they live their own lives, but if you want to be truly creative and leave your own footsteps instead of merely walking in somebody else's, you have to quote "Killing in the Name of" to them lol.
Brilliantly put Christopher I couldn't agree more. 👍
Imagine someone try to tell say to Keith Moon...overplaying?!😵
No no no... I think you meant "That's the way to do YYZ" 😳
Greyson is a beast!! This was amazing. Thank you for such a dope vid!
There's no such thing as "the greatest ever" artist. It's not a competition. Buddy was certainly one of the most influential drummers (not so much anymore, but to his contemporaries and the generation after his - definitely). Personally, I prefer Joe Morello or Tony Williams over Buddy, when it comes to musicality. From technical perspective - yeah, Buddy was a beast and probably a top dog *in his time* . There are many modern drummers, playing various genres other than big band jazz, who surpassed Buddy in that department (Dave Weckl, Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Matt Garstka, just to name a few).
Buddy is a legend, but music and drumming didn't stop evolving with him and his generation. :)
Dave Brubeck once said Buddy Rich and Joe Morello had a drum battle that "lasted all afternoon." I would certainly give Buddy the edge on power, and Joe on musicality. It comes down to how we can evaluate. When I was a kid I asked my dad what made Krupa better than me and he replied "he can do everything you can and more." I've always thought that was a fair watermark for good, better and best. But I agree, as we approach the pinnacle of playing, style, not technique, determines a drummer's worth. Technique is like tools in a tool box, and the best players all have similar tools, it's what they do with them that defines who they are as musicians. Just my two cents.
@@robertbruner7429 Absolutely agree - technique is just a means to an end, no the end goal itself.
Buddy could pull off some crazy fast singles, but I always found his drum solos boring and chaotic in comparison to the likes of Morello or Gadd. Billy Cobham also liked to play fast and flashy, but I like his solos better, since, in my opinion and taste, they had more groove and structure to them.
Tony Williams better than Buddy? c'mon...and Joe... ok he is a fine drummer, but Buddy is Buddy. He has ispired millions of drummers. If you listen the interviews of modern drummers, almost all have taken inspiration from Buddy. Anyway as you said it is also a personal feeling, so I respect your personal taste
I did agree with that
Bonham had technique similar to Morello and Rich but he applied it in commercial music and was inventive, he had groove, musicality, feel and sound but he also died young, he lived shorter than all of this great drummers. Because of how much he achieved in short period of time he is the greatest Rock drummer and beyond.
You are something special my man. Absolutely mind blowing. I wish I had a tenth of your talent.
Grayson is fantastic and I can't wait to see him playing with great musicians creating great musics. The trouble with these displays is the music backing is sterile and it is all about foregrounding his brilliant pyrotchnics but I can't wait to see him interracting with other musicians in say a quartet or whatever. The greatest drummers imho were the ones that contributed to the great groups. Buddy Rich is said to best and in terms of speed and power he was the tops but as a really musical drummer? As a big band drummer Grayson must be up there with Rich but don't you want to see him play in a smaller group and see how he plays in that context? I am sure he'll prove he is right up.there with the very best.
What great musicians, though? Beyonce and Jay-Z? Real musicians have largely left this Earth long ago.
You are awesome sir I'm a firm believer when buddy passed away you were gifted with his talent just like he does keep working at it and you're going to be just like him
Seeing he can do everything Buddy could and is actually a nice friendly guy, Greyson the real GOAT.
And he has better posture behind the kit.
Not nearly the same grace
He cannot do everything quite as well as buddy, he is close
@@Cpt_Guirk 🙋♂️
I love it man… people see the glory but don’t know the story. Fantastic!
I don’t think you can call any drummer the greatest because there as so many drummers with different styles but Buddy was certainly up there with the greatest legends of the drumming world!
It is great to see a young drummer who has the potential to be one of the greats!
A fantastic drummer. And i love his style.
so you like overplaying you like stepping on soloists you like no dynamics you like what exactly? hype of his own making? good lord grow a pair of ears for christs sakes..
I’m glad you are able to carry on the big band sounds and tradition when I first started playing in 66 br was my idol keep jammin!!!!
It was actually reassuring to see him throw a stick. Drummers drop sticks sometimes, but they tend to edit it out, which gives the impression that they never do.
Every drummer has a stick holder for a reason.
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HAHAHA! Dude couldn't flip a stick without looking when it mattered most at the end! Classic reminder we're all human! I love it!
Buddy and Bonham are definitely the most influential drummers of all time. The thing about Bonham is that he died young and he never stopped growing while he was alive, so you can only imagine how much we lost by loosing him.
Ur approach when u play music is so powerfull an confident is great to watch....i love it...
Would be really cool to se a mic placement rundown on a recording like this! Seems like the guy recordning made some stylistic choises not usually seen in modern drum micing :) Sounds great
This is a type of drumming I'll never wrap my mind around. Truly awesome.
Buddy was in another level and I get why people think he’s the greatest, but it really depends on how you see drumming to make a statement like that. It’s a matter of taste
To be honest I have seen drummer who are better like Tony Royster, and Eric Moore. He is good but let’s be real they are drummers that can put play him
this jerky fool wont even get ten levels below buddy hes terrible hes no musician overplaying like a jerk stepping on soloisyts its a god forsaken mess i heard 2 mins of it and will never waste another 2 mins again..but the real disgusting thing is how he tries so desperatly to compare himself to buddy..when hes not even close..theres this chinese kid that cops buddy almost to a scary level ok its a copy but its done correctly have you seen him yet? check him out its buddy incarnate almost creepy.. but even he doesnt compare himself to br he pays him due tribute so i usually hate copy cats but in that kids case i make an exception he does it that well..that i can listen to this noise> no just fffn noo
I love this young man what an inspiration just love his mind set and his playing is ridiculous thankyou so much
So impressive, and I love it that you both dressed up for the occasion. Classy!
I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that music schools wouldn't even give Greyson auditions. I hope those in charge are asking themselves what's broken in their admission systems that would allow them to turn away talent like Greyson's.
He doesn't need them! He'd be a nuisance and I mean that as a high compliment
This kid is obviously talented, but some schools don't want a kid who does a 45 minute solo and all kinds of showing off. They look for drummers with a good ear who can play and compliment the other members of the band. Especially a big band. The drummer is the quarterback. There are so many subtleties to being a good big band drummer. Not just soloing. Anyways. I wish him the best of luck.
Thank you.... I thought I seen the best.... I was ignorant... Woah absolutely stunningly beautiful. Thanks again hope your life is blessed.. you just blessed mine...
What I think has been missed, beyond Big Bands in general, was how Buddy DROVE a band. IMO, Buddy played for the song while playing with style and flash. He found a way to balance a certain amount of showing off with playing what was perfect for the song. No one has ever played Time Check as well as Buddy did. Buddy played that song in a way that no one else has, and the way he played it was far better than anyone else I've ever heard play it. The point of all that is this - Greyson could be the guy that brings that kind of drumming back. He just needs a Big Band to play with him. All of this is for nothing if he doesn't put together a Big Band and record albums and play live gigs.
I believe i have to agree with you here. I think that'll happen.
Pa Pa Joe Jones 1911 - 1985 . big band drummer . One of the best . He played with a big smile on his face, he was enjoying his own playing and so was the audience. played with Count Basie and every one that was recognized as talented in the jazz era. pioneered the use of brushes , and shifting the ride pattern from the hi hat to a large cymbal called the ride cymbal.
EDIT not to be confused with Philly Joe Jones 1923 - 1985 . a drummer who played with Miles Davis . Philly Joe Jones and Pa Pa Joe Jones died just days apart . RIP
Greyson utilizes his fingers to maximize his speed also strikes his crash and ride cymbal from underneath a legitimate technique that he could explain better than i. he would agree i believe that you learn a lot from doing things that sound good even if not considered orthodox by critics and drum authorities mainly teachers .
if it SOUNDS good it's legit . the only bad techniques are ones then can damage your hands, feet, posture, etc. IMO
He's so charismatic. I love this guy. Thank you.
Buddy Rich did more on a 4 piece kit than most drummers do on their gigantic ones.
Dave weckle can do amazing things to on a small kit.. the live at the rendezvous gig shows it off
The kit has nothing to do with it. If you can do it on a large kit, you can do it on a small kit. That isn't even a factor. He did more because he had to because he preferred a small kit. You can still implement fewer drums on a larger kit. This is a moot point.
@@paulburke407 Exactly. There simply is no best. Buddy was best at being Buddy, but he couldn't do a lot of what Weckl does, nor could Dave do a lot of what Buddy did. Buddy couldn't touch what Thomas Lang can do or Virgil Donati or Chris Coleman or Vinnie, etc. He could, however, do some things they couldn't. No drummer is best at every aspect of drumming. He was amazing, but not the best, nor is anyone else.
Buddy did more on his kit
In a solo than most do in a lifetime. He is indeed the GOAT.
@@tortillasarenotbiceps7622 I appreciate your point...as a drummer myself, I think simply enjoying music - regardless of the skill level of the drummer - can be important...with this said, once someone starts the "best drummer" debate/war, the assessments may be skewed by e.g., personal preference, exposure to different drummers, exposure to differing music genres, differing standards for skill aspects, and non-standardization of skill aspect standards themselves...I think an "upper echelon" category eases the "best drummer" to a degree (but not totally - the debate/war of "Who makes the cut?" could still exist)...
Thomas Lang, El Estapario, and Greyson are my favorite drummers to watch on You tube. Lang best drummer I’ve ever seen in my life. All 3 of them are amazing.
Buddy Rich was incredible. Although I think his drumming is a bit difficult to grasp and not the most musical, what Virgil Donati can do behind the drums is un real.
Grayson you are phenomenal… FYI. Buddy was my idol too when I first /started playing.. In 1974ish. I actually got to meet Buddy between sets at the Green County Jazz Festival in Oklahoma.. He had played the first set and then He walked backstage, and so did I… haha He was sitting alone on a bar stool with a big sweat towel around his neck.. He was so friendly, and we chatted for a few… He asked if I played and I said yes sir.. he signed my copy of the set list from the show.. he told me to “keep practicing” We shook hands and I went back to my seat..It was so amazing standing next to someone I had spent hours and hours listening to, and had seen so often on television… he was a real gentleman one on one.. I’m so glad I got to see him perform and meet him before he passed away..
Greyson is an absolute BEAST!! The technique, precision, and command of the kit is just insane.
Keep practicing and you'll get there.
dayyum. This guy jams. Playing is so intense … but he’s making his kit come alive in a way I haven’t felt in a long time.
I have listened to this kid many times now, his drive passion and technique is truly staggering, and that's were it ends.
Every track is insanely busy, so busy that he completely overrides all the musicians around him even when others are soloing.
Buddy does not reside in him, Buddy knew when to cut loose and when not too, this guy rips through every track at 245 mph NOT GOOD
A great point well made. He’s super young so I feel that in time he will him find his maturity and play less notes.
You are absolutely right, unfortunately I don't think this will be the prevailing opinion here. Buddy was one of the most musical big band drummers, always knew exactly what to play to support the musicians around him (like all the best drummers). When it came to soloing, he had chops, but more importantly he had musicality. Luckily, this kid is young and has time to mature as a player - but let's not pretend he is in the same hemisphere as someone like Buddy Rich.
If this kid wants to go deeper into this music (jazz) and understand how to play it, it would do him well to go back and study the musicians who were the pioneers (not just drummers).
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Thanks for agreeing and you are right too about getting more nature in playing, what I see in him is a future Dave Weckle.
Yeah I have to wonder if this was behind all the rejections. Basically all these schools got an audition tape with searing chops and were like nah let's not bring in a dude who is gonna step all over the rest of the musicians in the bands. Max Roach is another good example of a guy who would be doing just a ton of searing fast playing in the background but who knew exactly how to do it quietly and in a way that filled space rather than sucked up air.
The people who do admissions for places like UNT, Berklee, etc., are often fairly conservative stylistically as well. Seeing someone just trying to blast through with showboating tends to piss those guys off. It's no different than the classical world where you have long time musicians and fans view people like Lang Lang as trashy and off putting whereas most "regular" people would think he's incredible.
@@valarking yes, and it seems instead of taking those rejections in stride and learning what he could’ve improved, he responded with a ‘well screw you all’ attitude. I guess overall this was a good business decision (people seem to enjoy the flashy chops I guess), but I don’t see a whole lot of musicality in his concept.
I just have no words let me scrape my brains up off the floor give me like a minute or two or 1 million! I think that was simply amazing
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My 2 cents.The late John Blackwell is the Goat!All syles of music an innovator who also shared his techniques which is unheard because most great technical and showmanship drummers try to hide their secrets.
Good point!!!?
Damn, didn't realize he died. Way too soon!!
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Buddy Rich is my all time favorite drummer. The man was from another planet. I'm so glad y'all did this!!! Spectacular. The Big Band era was so amazing, and very different from free jazz... much easier to consume. My hope for future generation of musicians and music consumers is being restored little by little.
In my opinion he's like The reincarnation of Buddy Rich I mean his left hand is deadly and so fast and makes it look so easy but it's not.. he will definitely go down history as one of the best drummers that has ever blessed this Earth he's incredible..He just seems like a really down-to-earth person that would answer question for you or teach you how to do something those guys are hard to come by. But without a doubt it prodigy in itself..
This guy is just as good as Buddy Rich with none of the bad attitude Buddy Rich had.
Buddy could be an arsehole, but Ginger Baker wins first prize for being the biggest arsehole, ever.
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Apples and oranges. This kid isn’t on the road for 200 shows a year with his own big band, traveling by bus to the next one nighter.
@@HankFinkle11 He could but he probably doesn’t have to in this modern world of social media.
not quite the Buddy Rich, Buddy had better control
See what happens when you follow your passion and put in the hard work!
Bravo
If you're going to compare Greyson to Buddy, I'll tell you this. Greyson has quick hands BUT NOWHERE near the power of a Buddy Rich, Butch Miles or Louie Bellson. Greyson has a very light touch which is fine. His rim shots are very light. I prefer the power, the hard rim shots that cut through everything & bang you over the head when you hear them. I don't hear this with Greyson at all. It's all just quick and light. He's like a Buddy Rich Light. LOL..That weird thing his fingers do - going in and out when he's playing singles is a little different. Watching Buddy play fast singles is like art. When Buddy played, you felt it. Buddy had very strong forearms. Greyson is not as strong, .but I do like his playing. He's a nice kid and he's dedicated.
Always such a joy, Greyson!! Thank you!!
Grayson's playing is like the eternal struggle between the light side and the dark side. It's like his consciousness is trying to stay jazz but his emotional physicality wants to rock out. In classic times he'd have been too extreme but you can't deny his passion!
And now he's channeling that into playing for Suicidal Tendencies.
From Jazz to Metal! Pretty freakin' cool.
WOW what an amazing video on his style of playing and his life! Love it!!
Elvin Jones is the best drummer I ever heard because he was the most lyrical and made the most important music. That should be the metric. I never thought Rich made any important music - at least not with his orchestra. Name one essential Buddy Rich solo album (good luck). Whereas I can name 5 albums Elvin played on that absolutely belong in every jazz aficionados collection, or any serious music fans collection. Rich’s session work with certain great artists (e.g. Charlie Parker) was good but not astounding. The best musician is the most musical and Elvin wins that race by a country mile, not that musically bigoted megalomaniac.
Rich had great skill but not important, indelible songs. It’s what you do with your talent that matters most.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "greatest". What you're describing sounds like it would make Jones a better musician. Being able to perform more complex technical pieces would make you a better drummer.
I agree I don't understand the hype for buudy rich at all. Elvin is amazing
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Nonsense. Ringo Starr is an infinitely better drummer than buddy rich because he is a decent person, played on some of the most important albums ever made and did so with style and gravity. You can be the most skilled sharp shooter (sniper) in the entire world but if you can’t keep your hand from shaking your rifle when an invading army is coming to town then you are worthless. Music (the harnessing and composition of alterations in sound waves) is what matters where the rubber meets the road. Music is what matters to musicians.
Being able to dazzle people with what you can do on the drum kit when your soloing is about ego not meaningful composition. Pure and simple. It’s what has been crafted for the ages to enjoy that carries weight.
I get so sick and tired of people pretending like having some kind of unexampled skill set is important when the actual thing that goes on a record or gets played live only inspires awe in someone’s capacity to freakishly move around the kit, or some other feat of adroitness. At days end that shit doesn’t matter.
Obviously rich was blessed by God with skill but his boorish musical snobbery and compositional mediocrity matters far, far more and those who disagree have no idea why music matters.
Give me Elvin, who loved and respected numerous forms of music and who played, as Townes Van Zant put it so pithily, “for the sake of the song.”
Obviously Elvin had the chops, but it’s what he did with them that mesmerizes, not merely some exhibition of elaborate showiness.
Elvin and Buddy are from different generations, and play completely different styles of music.
They are both in my mind equally important in the development of the drum kit as an instrument, Jazz drumming and drumming/music in general.
Elvin supposedly once picked Buddy Rich up by his legs and hoisted him aloft after a drum jam at Newport jazz festival and declared that Buddy was the greatest.
It speaks volumes that Buddy Rich didn't use his karate on Elvin right there and then. He wouldn't have dared. Elvin was too big. Haha.
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I’m sure Elvin did that out of humility. Couldn’t care less about some competition for who says they are the better drummer. Like I said before, the one who makes the best music is the best drummer. Anyone who disagrees with that has absolutely no idea why playing the drums is of any moment whatsoever.
Show me a quintessential Buddy Rich solo album. You can’t. It doesn’t exist. But Elvin Jones played on some of the most innovative, majestic and indelible albums ever made. His solo albums are only beginning to be appreciated the way they should be. It’s not even close.
Skill is important only insofar as it amounts to beauty. Realize it.
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