Is this a good example: I was sat in a counselling course and being taught about an 8 step circle of how humans move from vague interest in something to embedded habit. All my colleagues were asking what each step meant and how they could use the tool. Meanwhile I’d been thinking that the ‘step before the point at which it becomes habit’ could be an excellent way to make a deep connection with addiction clients and discover exactly what their tipping point was. I asked the teacher about this and she became uncomfortable and quickly returned to the step by step teaching of the tool.
I have comments and questions! Related to the differences in perception and processing of environmental stimuli - what we perceive vs. what others perceive and how this factors into the way conclusions are drawn and actions planned. "How did you know that was going to happen?!" vs. "How did you NOT know that was going to happen?!" So, I'm extremely curious as to whether there are ways to demonstarte different levels of perception (or recognition of stimuli) taken in for processing and the speed at which stimuli is processed and action taken. Wouldn't it be helpful for us to know what it's like to perceive less, and other people to know what it's like to always being perceiving so much more? It's something I started thinking about in relation to 4K pictures/tv for example... most people rave about how 'life like' it looks to them. But to me, it looks fake. The edges of objects are so crisp and clean that it looks almost cartoonish or drawn. And it looks like its sitting in front of a background, not in the scene. (Is that just me?)
Your tv anecdote is a good one to try to explain to people what it feels like to perceive more detail. Other options are to use visual or auditory devices to either enhance or limit sight or sound ... using magnifying reading glasses to illustrate what it's like to see more detail, or noise cancelling headphones to illustrate what it's like to hear less detail. I think the best way to show someone what it feels like to be overwhelmed with stimuli is to sit in a crowded room and try to talk to someone who's a bit too far away to be heard easily. When you struggle to make out what someone else is saying, you end up tuning in to the ambient noise from all the other people in the room, which helps illustrate what it feels like to try to sort through way too much stimuli to locate the important parts. Hope this helps!
I feel seen in this video, and in the 10 things video about being gifted. I practice “tactical mediocrity” so people don’t realize how much more I can actually do so I don’t get stuck with more work; or show how bored I am, or how ahead I am in what’s going on or explanations or problem solving etc. I spend A LOT of time drawing in meetings and such because the explanations are just soooooooooo slow. Anyway. Thank you for these videos.
I sometimes have trouble in arguments or conversations skipping ahead too much... it makes me confusing to people. Like they dont know why Im saying something when its a response to the counterpoint I knew theyd make to an earlier point... I need to let them say the thing first...
I read "A Christmas Carol" and see my own life experiences when the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge his past Christmasses. It is therapy to me, and I understand how brilliantly the Ghost of Christmas Past was written. Like a candle. Like sitting by a candle, looking at the flame and remembering Christmasses Past. That is gifted. A smart person reads "A Christmas Carol" and tries to memorize the story.
I don't know which one I am but I relate with the gifted I have a lot of the traits you were talking about and my dyslexia makes me look at stuff a little different it's like I have a built-in pattern recognition software for example I find four-leaf clovers all the time it's not lucky I can just see them
Insightful !! What do you believe will earn promotions faster and make employee earn most money as some people say don't be the Best but be the ONLY ! or does being a Problem Solver help in achieving massive success at workplace ? How does that work.. any good books on this topic to understand more.. i am an Hvac engineer in AEC construction industry working for air conditioning projects..
Thank you. Could you do a video talking through lots of examples of synthesis of information at some point? I loved the painting lecture example- several more like that would be useful 😊
gifted people are outside of the normal distribution, and therefore unpredictable and innovative, compared to normally distributed people who work within the system, about the 130s are where IQ shifts from normally distributed to power law distributed
Schopenhauer said, "Talent hits a mark no one else can hit, genius hits a mark no one else can see." I'm not sure where your definition of giftedness falls in the continuum between talent and genius, but I suspect it's in there somewhere.
Dose taking time in coming up with out of the box things as u described but taking a little longer time is it gifted? Like taking time on working on the outofthe box idea
I am so happy to have found your channel! I will watch more and consider your program, as I am blown away by your content. I have struggled for years and being labled G/T I thought ended after high school. This is amazing, because somehow you were in my feed today. New sub!❤
My mom thought that I was gifted growing up (I'm not - failed the timed test in elementary school by two questions on the math portion; my mom thinks the test was poorly-designed and that I was at a disadvantage being roughly a year younger than the others in the room, but parents like to think well of their children ... we fight about this sometimes), but I need to say something about the bike comment. I actually DID have to learn rudimentary physics before I was able to ride a bike. I learned when I was 10. My mom believes that I learned because I was manipulating her and my dad because they put money down on the table, but at about the same time, there was a Bill Nye episode that was explaining the physics of motion. I realized that cycling was related to the forces he was explaining in the TV show and applied what I learned. I was never able to learn how to drive a car and have poor sense of where my body is in space. So. It wasn't from a book, but it WAS from educational materials.
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect at work, like me because you have such an easy grasp of these things, you don't think it's anything special, it's like when a psychologist tested my IQ in 2000, calculated my result and told me that I was in the top 5th percentile, I had trouble believing it, but I still do the odd online test every now and then just for a bit of fun and I'm still getting similar results.
Here is my personal experience between smart and gifted. I’m technically, via testing, smart. IQ tested just below 150. For the most part school was somewhat easy. I still had to study(ish) to get good grades. But was lazy in my early years as I could generate whatever grade I wanted. Here is what my definition of gifted is. I’m in college. Taking the obligatory organic chemistry. First day of class. I go. Oh I get this. And basically just sat there and sorta listened to the lectures. 3 hour midterm. Completed in 20 minutes with zero studying. 3 hour final? Same thing. 20 minutes. And I was taking my time. The class was complaining how difficult the class was to the prof. He says it can’t be that difficult. This guy, pointing to me, doesn’t even take notes. And he is the top of the class. Yeah. Felt the daggers that day. There you go. Smart can be learned. Gifted is innate. Btw. I’m terrible in math.
O Chem was different for me (also smart and gifted). I felt completely lost, explained how things worked for others and helped them, passed with good grades and still felt like I had no idea what was going on 😅
I totally get that; almost exact minus no ish to studying. Just didn’t do any. If I was uninterested in the class I’d read the end of chapter summaries and take the test, would only show up for the tests and still get at least a B. Mind you, end of chapter summaries barely cover anything. But math?! I understand the concepts and can explain them no problem, can help people understand the concepts. But pen to paper can’t solve shit lol
So, the gifted brain folks are those who use introverted intuition (Ni) or extraverted intuition (Ne)? Having 10,000 hours in intuitive cognitive functioning 😊
Is this a good example: I was sat in a counselling course and being taught about an 8 step circle of how humans move from vague interest in something to embedded habit. All my colleagues were asking what each step meant and how they could use the tool. Meanwhile I’d been thinking that the ‘step before the point at which it becomes habit’ could be an excellent way to make a deep connection with addiction clients and discover exactly what their tipping point was. I asked the teacher about this and she became uncomfortable and quickly returned to the step by step teaching of the tool.
Yes, that's a perfect example!
A smart person understands, a gifted person gains insight into the subject.
I have comments and questions! Related to the differences in perception and processing of environmental stimuli - what we perceive vs. what others perceive and how this factors into the way conclusions are drawn and actions planned.
"How did you know that was going to happen?!" vs. "How did you NOT know that was going to happen?!"
So, I'm extremely curious as to whether there are ways to demonstarte different levels of perception (or recognition of stimuli) taken in for processing and the speed at which stimuli is processed and action taken.
Wouldn't it be helpful for us to know what it's like to perceive less, and other people to know what it's like to always being perceiving so much more?
It's something I started thinking about in relation to 4K pictures/tv for example... most people rave about how 'life like' it looks to them. But to me, it looks fake. The edges of objects are so crisp and clean that it looks almost cartoonish or drawn. And it looks like its sitting in front of a background, not in the scene. (Is that just me?)
Your tv anecdote is a good one to try to explain to people what it feels like to perceive more detail. Other options are to use visual or auditory devices to either enhance or limit sight or sound ... using magnifying reading glasses to illustrate what it's like to see more detail, or noise cancelling headphones to illustrate what it's like to hear less detail. I think the best way to show someone what it feels like to be overwhelmed with stimuli is to sit in a crowded room and try to talk to someone who's a bit too far away to be heard easily. When you struggle to make out what someone else is saying, you end up tuning in to the ambient noise from all the other people in the room, which helps illustrate what it feels like to try to sort through way too much stimuli to locate the important parts. Hope this helps!
I feel seen in this video, and in the 10 things video about being gifted. I practice “tactical mediocrity” so people don’t realize how much more I can actually do so I don’t get stuck with more work; or show how bored I am, or how ahead I am in what’s going on or explanations or problem solving etc. I spend A LOT of time drawing in meetings and such because the explanations are just soooooooooo slow. Anyway. Thank you for these videos.
Love the phrase "tactical mediocrity" !
I sometimes have trouble in arguments or conversations skipping ahead too much... it makes me confusing to people. Like they dont know why Im saying something when its a response to the counterpoint I knew theyd make to an earlier point... I need to let them say the thing first...
I read "A Christmas Carol" and see my own life experiences when the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge his past Christmasses. It is therapy to me, and I understand how brilliantly the Ghost of Christmas Past was written. Like a candle. Like sitting by a candle, looking at the flame and remembering Christmasses Past. That is gifted. A smart person reads "A Christmas Carol" and tries to memorize the story.
I don't know which one I am but I relate with the gifted I have a lot of the traits you were talking about and my dyslexia makes me look at stuff a little different it's like I have a built-in pattern recognition software for example I find four-leaf clovers all the time it's not lucky I can just see them
Insightful !!
What do you believe will earn promotions faster and make employee earn most money as some people say don't be the Best but be the ONLY ! or does being a Problem Solver help in achieving massive success at workplace ? How does that work.. any good books on this topic to understand more.. i am an Hvac engineer in AEC construction industry working for air conditioning projects..
I like "The Gifted Adult" by Mary Elaine Jacobson: bookshop.org/a/81731/9780345434920
Wow, that's so beautiful watching you explain! You truly know what you're talking about wtf that's scary because that's rare in this world 😅
It’s cus she’s gifted!
Thank you. Could you do a video talking through lots of examples of synthesis of information at some point? I loved the painting lecture example- several more like that would be useful 😊
I'll put it on my list :)
Great video
gifted people are outside of the normal distribution, and therefore unpredictable and innovative, compared to normally distributed people who work within the system, about the 130s are where IQ shifts from normally distributed to power law distributed
Schopenhauer said, "Talent hits a mark no one else can hit, genius hits a mark no one else can see." I'm not sure where your definition of giftedness falls in the continuum between talent and genius, but I suspect it's in there somewhere.
Dose taking time in coming up with out of the box things as u described but taking a little longer time is it gifted? Like taking time on working on the outofthe box idea
I am so happy to have found your channel! I will watch more and consider your program, as I am blown away by your content. I have struggled for years and being labled G/T I thought ended after high school. This is amazing, because somehow you were in my feed today. New sub!❤
Welcome :)
My mom thought that I was gifted growing up (I'm not - failed the timed test in elementary school by two questions on the math portion; my mom thinks the test was poorly-designed and that I was at a disadvantage being roughly a year younger than the others in the room, but parents like to think well of their children ... we fight about this sometimes), but I need to say something about the bike comment. I actually DID have to learn rudimentary physics before I was able to ride a bike. I learned when I was 10. My mom believes that I learned because I was manipulating her and my dad because they put money down on the table, but at about the same time, there was a Bill Nye episode that was explaining the physics of motion. I realized that cycling was related to the forces he was explaining in the TV show and applied what I learned. I was never able to learn how to drive a car and have poor sense of where my body is in space. So. It wasn't from a book, but it WAS from educational materials.
I’m so confused. This description of gifted people is how I thought everyone worked mentally. You mean to tell me everyone doesn’t think this way?
Yep :)
If you’re truly gifted, you would know not everyone thinks that way. It’s very obvious and extremely frustrating.
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect at work, like me because you have such an easy grasp of these things, you don't think it's anything special, it's like when a psychologist tested my IQ in 2000, calculated my result and told me that I was in the top 5th percentile, I had trouble believing it, but I still do the odd online test every now and then just for a bit of fun and I'm still getting similar results.
Here is my personal experience between smart and gifted.
I’m technically, via testing, smart. IQ tested just below 150. For the most part school was somewhat easy.
I still had to study(ish) to get good grades. But was lazy in my early years as I could generate whatever grade I wanted.
Here is what my definition of gifted is. I’m in college. Taking the obligatory organic chemistry. First day of class. I go. Oh I get this. And basically just sat there and sorta listened to the lectures. 3 hour midterm. Completed in 20 minutes with zero studying. 3 hour final? Same thing. 20 minutes. And I was taking my time.
The class was complaining how difficult the class was to the prof. He says it can’t be that difficult. This guy, pointing to me, doesn’t even take notes. And he is the top of the class.
Yeah. Felt the daggers that day.
There you go. Smart can be learned. Gifted is innate.
Btw. I’m terrible in math.
O Chem was different for me (also smart and gifted). I felt completely lost, explained how things worked for others and helped them, passed with good grades and still felt like I had no idea what was going on 😅
I totally get that; almost exact minus no ish to studying. Just didn’t do any. If I was uninterested in the class I’d read the end of chapter summaries and take the test, would only show up for the tests and still get at least a B. Mind you, end of chapter summaries barely cover anything. But math?! I understand the concepts and can explain them no problem, can help people understand the concepts. But pen to paper can’t solve shit lol
So, the gifted brain folks are those who use introverted intuition (Ni) or extraverted intuition (Ne)? Having 10,000 hours in intuitive cognitive functioning 😊
Hey nice, so I might be smart, but I am not gifted.
Waittttt you mean leaps of logic aren’t neurotypical? Like people don’t naturally do that? I thought that was just the joy of having a brain.