Update 6/24/2023 - LEGO released the 4.0.3 version that removes the bug with the hidden blocks and you will see the basic complexity by default, all other blocks are hidden. They also updated the release notes of 4.0.2 to indicate the interface change. Update 8/1/2023 - LEGO released their documentation for the updated code blocks, you can find it here - www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/power_functions/lego-powered-up-programming-blocks-kA06N000000g04eSAA
Dear Balazs, unfortunately the Powered Up app updated itself without asking any permission. I don't think there is a way to go back... but in case you have an idea about it, let us know! Your online guide is certainly the most valuable thing we've all had to program our LEGO motors and sensors!
I've been avoiding sets that use Powered Up app. I don't like when Lego integrates other technologies and eventually abandones them, like what happened to Lego Dimensions.
I share the frustration; thankfully it looks like I managed to avoid my app auto-updating to the latest version. On top of this, Lego has apparently stopped stocking motors in their stores. I'm genuinely wondering if we might see Powered Up being discontinued within the next couple of years.
Those "hidden blocks" are so useful :D Mabye Abs. Positioning is available now, that would be great. If I remember correctly LCC are data array blocks. Sry I'm a nerd, I know.
It’s a shame about these issues with the powered up app, I feel the system has so much potential if it was fully developed… Thank you for your time so far in trying to solve some of the information gaps and issues. Whilst they might remove the update, I am not sure how much bombarding Lego customer service will do to change these issues in the long run, I think there are maybe not many people buying control + sets that will use such an app or even know it’s existence, instead they will rely on the control+ app - which is perfectly usable unless you need to build an MOC.
arent they objectively worse since they have less attachment o=points and no option for things like servo for example. Maybe the PF sets are btter you mean
@@christinarocha956 Mould King. The motors and hub I bought from them 1 year and a half ago are still working perfectly. Recently I bought the 6 channel hub as well, it's very good.
Thank you for noting my complain in the video. I think Lego managers should really listen to their customers and I believe they will not make this ugly design upgrade in future app versions or at least they will make it switchable with an opportunity to change it to an old design version. Other way I will use ver 3.11.0 app indefinetly without any future updates. Thank you for your video.
I find it very intresting that lego has done this. Its unexpected release has obviously triggered some major confusion and frustration throughout the community. But Lego as we know is a very trustworthy company (although they have done this a couple of times) I am sure that this will change soon (fingers crossed). Great video and I'm exited for the next one!
Yep this definitely looks like an accidental release to me. Or that they had to rush out a bug fix but were halfway through changing the interface. Either way it’s very sloppy!
I always get excited when LEGO releases a new Powered Up or remote controlled set. Rarely happens these days, maybe for reasons similar to this situation. I’d like to buy the RS Q E-tron, but not if these issues plague the play experience.
I am in touch with Customer service as I am having problems with connecting Control+ with my D11 set. Brick Controller 2 is having no issues at all and thank God there is an alternative as I would be left with a plain display set. Lego is trying to help but they dont know what is the problem. Didnt try PoweredUp yet but I think Lego should have some guide how to program a set like D11 on your own - a "ready to go" pattern of blocks for everyone to set up, just to use the set. Something like you are doing on this channel for some Control+ models.
Control+ is "fixed" for a reason, it is a ready-made solution for people who don't want to change anything. The best would be to provide editable profiles for Powered Up where others could tinker the settings, it could also provide a futureproof solution after the set is discontinued.
I think we are a couple of years away from Lego going back to a power functions based system. Maybe a new battery box but i think the motors and connections will be going back to that.
I hated the upgrade so much that I've re-installed the previous version from a package on one of those dodgy sites that makes you certain your personal data is going to be in the hands of an evil hacker before you've even finished the install.
If it's already updated, you should be able to uninstall it and sideload an earlier version using an APK downloaded from the internet. Unfortunately I do not know which APK archive sites are reliable (and you probably shouldn't be taking the word of a random guy on the internet on that anyway).
I think this situation happens due to the level of the palette that we are viewing (beginner - intermediate - advanced). Try to verify that you have a pallet level selected, and that it is not "null". Choosing a suitable palette level, the hidden blocks are again hidden. This situation is only happening in version updates, in fresh installations it doesn't happen from what I was able to find out.
@@RacingBrick it solved the problem for me! My default palette level was not defined to any of the 3 available : beginner, intermediate or advanced, leading to the hidden blocks being available. After picking one, the blocks are now hidden.
I stand corrected, checked it again and you are right. It's a weird bug, but this also means that normally some critical items like the port input selector would be totally missing at any complexity level.
My app updated automatically, and now it is basically useless 😡 There are only a handful of coding blocks, so basic that I can't power my MOC the way I had planned (which wasn't a complicated mechanism). I sent LEGO an email as you suggested. Here's hoping enough people do that they sort the mess out.
I have problems entering decimal numbers. I noticed this while trying to chance the motor sensitivity setting. Default, this value is 0,1. On the app there is also real comma (,) shown. The number field only shows a point. Maybe this has nothing to do with each other, but I already tried several other things without luck. There is of course a simple workaround by using a divider, but I find it nonetheless annoying. I'm using an iPhone 14, but I know others on Android have the same problem. I already contacted Lego, and even send a Video, but haven't heard from them yet. Does anyone else have this issue, or knows how to solve it?
I got some powered up elements for my son, having looked at tutorials online beforehand. Now those tutorials do not work. For example, the colour and distance sensor used to have a hand icon to activate it - now we cannot find one or an alternative (If anyone knows how to do this please post below).
I just got a new phone and so it automatically updated to the newest version, and while they have fixed those ugly graphics it is still very hard to understand and I can’t figure out how to make a custom controler, all the tutorials on RUclips are outdated, and I tried reverse engineering the offical LEGO controllers that appear when you make one but they all have the old coding blocks! Please could someone make a tutorial because I cannot find the new version of the +/- block and I need that for the controller!
I am now coding a quite big project using the updated Powered up app, and, i am using video instructions, as the code is complicated and, this is also my first time doing it. The video is based on old icons, and i have the new ones. I AM SO ANGRY about the icon update!!!! WHY LEGO, WHY? and there is no normal explanation what icon now means what. i've been a fann and buidler of lego for 26 years, and i have never seen such a BS from LEGO!
@@RacingBrickI submitted several questions to Lego’s hotline who did not really have good answers. They pointed me to your videos which are really good!
@@LaurentThenie that's flattering, but my videos are covering the previous version and design, the Powered Up team should have provided guidance to customer service about the new version. There's a guide they posted themselves here for the new version - www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/power_functions/lego-powered-up-programming-blocks-kA06N000000g04eSAA
After this update, I can no longer set an L or XL motor up as a servo. Whenever I go to the controls the motor spins uncontrolably. Is there any way I can fix it?
You need to be more specific, which block are you using? The rounded steering block requires calibration every time you launch it, so it needs endpoints. But this is not new functionality, it works as previously.
Seems like every 20 yrs Lego is set to alienate their customers, with way too many half assed tangents... remember the old half ass Lego games from the early 2000s. Really wish there was more of a guide for powered up. The new update is terrible. It's like trying to do C++ coding on a computer that the { button is broken. The biggest shame is they are going to turn off a bunch of people from both coding and lego
This is what you can expect from a large, PRIVATELY HELD multinational. If they were publicly traded, this kind of thing would impact shareholder value. It's their choice obviously, like the choices they make when ignoring their customers
Update 6/24/2023 - LEGO released the 4.0.3 version that removes the bug with the hidden blocks and you will see the basic complexity by default, all other blocks are hidden. They also updated the release notes of 4.0.2 to indicate the interface change.
Update 8/1/2023 - LEGO released their documentation for the updated code blocks, you can find it here - www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/power_functions/lego-powered-up-programming-blocks-kA06N000000g04eSAA
Dear Balazs, unfortunately the Powered Up app updated itself without asking any permission. I don't think there is a way to go back... but in case you have an idea about it, let us know! Your online guide is certainly the most valuable thing we've all had to program our LEGO motors and sensors!
I've been avoiding sets that use Powered Up app. I don't like when Lego integrates other technologies and eventually abandones them, like what happened to Lego Dimensions.
Still annoyed about dimensions that was one of there best themes ever
I share the frustration; thankfully it looks like I managed to avoid my app auto-updating to the latest version.
On top of this, Lego has apparently stopped stocking motors in their stores. I'm genuinely wondering if we might see Powered Up being discontinued within the next couple of years.
Those "hidden blocks" are so useful :D Mabye Abs. Positioning is available now, that would be great.
If I remember correctly LCC are data array blocks.
Sry I'm a nerd, I know.
It’s a shame about these issues with the powered up app, I feel the system has so much potential if it was fully developed… Thank you for your time so far in trying to solve some of the information gaps and issues.
Whilst they might remove the update, I am not sure how much bombarding Lego customer service will do to change these issues in the long run, I think there are maybe not many people buying control + sets that will use such an app or even know it’s existence, instead they will rely on the control+ app - which is perfectly usable unless you need to build an MOC.
I’m still a power function user only! 🎉 they’re way better
I know
Where do you get replacement motors. I keep buying knockoff servos but they stop working
arent they objectively worse since they have less attachment o=points and no option for things like servo for example. Maybe the PF sets are btter you mean
@@christinarocha956 Mould King. The motors and hub I bought from them 1 year and a half ago are still working perfectly. Recently I bought the 6 channel hub as well, it's very good.
9V is still the best
Thank you for noting my complain in the video. I think Lego managers should really listen to their customers and I believe they will not make this ugly design upgrade in future app versions or at least they will make it switchable with an opportunity to change it to an old design version. Other way I will use ver 3.11.0 app indefinetly without any future updates. Thank you for your video.
I find it very intresting that lego has done this. Its unexpected release has obviously triggered some major confusion and frustration throughout the community. But Lego as we know is a very trustworthy company (although they have done this a couple of times) I am sure that this will change soon (fingers crossed). Great video and I'm exited for the next one!
Yep this definitely looks like an accidental release to me. Or that they had to rush out a bug fix but were halfway through changing the interface. Either way it’s very sloppy!
Looks like pybricks is going to be the way to go.
I always get excited when LEGO releases a new Powered Up or remote controlled set. Rarely happens these days, maybe for reasons similar to this situation. I’d like to buy the RS Q E-tron, but not if these issues plague the play experience.
I am in touch with Customer service as I am having problems with connecting Control+ with my D11 set. Brick Controller 2 is having no issues at all and thank God there is an alternative as I would be left with a plain display set. Lego is trying to help but they dont know what is the problem. Didnt try PoweredUp yet but I think Lego should have some guide how to program a set like D11 on your own - a "ready to go" pattern of blocks for everyone to set up, just to use the set. Something like you are doing on this channel for some Control+ models.
Control+ is "fixed" for a reason, it is a ready-made solution for people who don't want to change anything. The best would be to provide editable profiles for Powered Up where others could tinker the settings, it could also provide a futureproof solution after the set is discontinued.
I think we are a couple of years away from Lego going back to a power functions based system. Maybe a new battery box but i think the motors and connections will be going back to that.
Thanks for pointing me to this app now can start modding 42140 with some lights for my kids
I hated the upgrade so much that I've re-installed the previous version from a package on one of those dodgy sites that makes you certain your personal data is going to be in the hands of an evil hacker before you've even finished the install.
Can u make a new tutorial for basic programing in powered up
If it's already updated, you should be able to uninstall it and sideload an earlier version using an APK downloaded from the internet. Unfortunately I do not know which APK archive sites are reliable (and you probably shouldn't be taking the word of a random guy on the internet on that anyway).
I think this situation happens due to the level of the palette that we are viewing (beginner - intermediate - advanced). Try to verify that you have a pallet level selected, and that it is not "null". Choosing a suitable palette level, the hidden blocks are again hidden. This situation is only happening in version updates, in fresh installations it doesn't happen from what I was able to find out.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the "situation"
@@RacingBrick it solved the problem for me! My default palette level was not defined to any of the 3 available : beginner, intermediate or advanced, leading to the hidden blocks being available. After picking one, the blocks are now hidden.
I stand corrected, checked it again and you are right. It's a weird bug, but this also means that normally some critical items like the port input selector would be totally missing at any complexity level.
Hello, I am building an alternative of Caterpillar D11 bulldozer, do you suggest an alternative app, thanks
My app updated automatically, and now it is basically useless 😡 There are only a handful of coding blocks, so basic that I can't power my MOC the way I had planned (which wasn't a complicated mechanism). I sent LEGO an email as you suggested. Here's hoping enough people do that they sort the mess out.
The latest update starts with basic complexity. You need to switch to the 3rd option with the 3 bricks to see all the code blocks.
@@RacingBrick Oh my goodness, thank you - in that case, my only complaint is bad UX that made me not realise that :)
I have problems entering decimal numbers. I noticed this while trying to chance the motor sensitivity setting. Default, this value is 0,1. On the app there is also real comma (,) shown. The number field only shows a point. Maybe this has nothing to do with each other, but I already tried several other things without luck. There is of course a simple workaround by using a divider, but I find it nonetheless annoying. I'm using an iPhone 14, but I know others on Android have the same problem. I already contacted Lego, and even send a Video, but haven't heard from them yet.
Does anyone else have this issue, or knows how to solve it?
The new icon design is just aweful and I struggle choosing the right element whereas in the previous design things were much easier.
I got some powered up elements for my son, having looked at tutorials online beforehand. Now those tutorials do not work. For example, the colour and distance sensor used to have a hand icon to activate it - now we cannot find one or an alternative (If anyone knows how to do this please post below).
I just got a new phone and so it automatically updated to the newest version, and while they have fixed those ugly graphics it is still very hard to understand and I can’t figure out how to make a custom controler, all the tutorials on RUclips are outdated, and I tried reverse engineering the offical LEGO controllers that appear when you make one but they all have the old coding blocks! Please could someone make a tutorial because I cannot find the new version of the +/- block and I need that for the controller!
Ah yes, that famous Powered Up roadmap... 😅
I am now coding a quite big project using the updated Powered up app, and, i am using video instructions, as the code is complicated and, this is also my first time doing it.
The video is based on old icons, and i have the new ones. I AM SO ANGRY about the icon update!!!! WHY LEGO, WHY? and there is no normal explanation what icon now means what. i've been a fann and buidler of lego for 26 years, and i have never seen such a BS from LEGO!
V4 doesn't seem to have any help screens at all. Holding down the icons does nothing.
Powered Up never had a help function and still doesn't have it as I explained in the video
My app auto-updated, so I'm stuck with it until they fix the bugs.
Yup, same happened here and I teach with it. Went in yesterday and all the kids were baffled by the new interface
Bonjour, I just downloaded Powered Up for the first time, therefore the latest version. How can I find the previous one? Thanks
You can find it on some Android APK hosting sites like apkpure
Thanks for your help. Also, do you mean that there is no documentation on the new interface ?
@@LaurentThenie there is, please check here - www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/power_functions/lego-powered-up-programming-blocks-kA06N000000g04eSAA
@@RacingBrickI submitted several questions to Lego’s hotline who did not really have good answers. They pointed me to your videos which are really good!
@@LaurentThenie that's flattering, but my videos are covering the previous version and design, the Powered Up team should have provided guidance to customer service about the new version. There's a guide they posted themselves here for the new version - www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/power_functions/lego-powered-up-programming-blocks-kA06N000000g04eSAA
awesome video :)
After this update, I can no longer set an L or XL motor up as a servo. Whenever I go to the controls the motor spins uncontrolably. Is there any way I can fix it?
You need to be more specific, which block are you using? The rounded steering block requires calibration every time you launch it, so it needs endpoints. But this is not new functionality, it works as previously.
I used my previously set up profile. The Block looks like a motor with a dial and 2 arrows next to it
It is now working again. I rebooted my device and reinstalled the app
Seems like every 20 yrs Lego is set to alienate their customers, with way too many half assed tangents... remember the old half ass Lego games from the early 2000s. Really wish there was more of a guide for powered up. The new update is terrible. It's like trying to do C++ coding on a computer that the { button is broken.
The biggest shame is they are going to turn off a bunch of people from both coding and lego
Too late...
Lego “try not to make programming hard” challenge (impossible)
Always makes it even harder 😂
This is what you can expect from a large, PRIVATELY HELD multinational. If they were publicly traded, this kind of thing would impact shareholder value. It's their choice obviously, like the choices they make when ignoring their customers
This is completely stupid update. Can not find math functions now. New wierd undocumented blocks etc, no documentation, no help
Do u have lego direct phone number as I dont
You can find it on lego.com as I showed in the video
Don't complain with lego customer service otherwise they will ban you from online purchases citing your a difficult customer
Lego shouldn't need programming at all. It's bricks, not software. I program Simatic systems for my company, i don't want to program Lego.
Calling it "bricks" is itself outdated by 70+ years. It was just "bricks" when they started the toy. Now it cannot be called so.
LEGO has had programming since the 90s. It’s part of LEGO as much as bricks are a part of LEGO
I teach programming with LEGO and it's such a great way to get children interested in learning it.